August 17, 2026

"I just do not understand the mentality. If this is a representation of who our military is now… we’re just Rome sitting here waiting to burn. We’ve got nothing left."

From "Fox Host Trashes U.S. Sailors as ‘Weak’ for Speaking Out About Dire Conditions/Fox News host Joey Jones mocked service members speaking out about conditions aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln" (MTN).

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Freder Frederson said...

" the claim that Trump is "demanding the Navy switch back to steam catapults""

Sheesh. And while we are on the subject, switching from EMALS back to steam catapults will increase the water demand, so the water treatment system will also have to be redesigned.

Freder Frederson said...

"And again, he doesn't try to defend his 8:41am comment."

What is there to defend? Obviously my link demonstrates that the Navy is continually looking for better desalination techniques. If the Lincoln is still using steam distillation, that doesn't mean the Navy has decided it is the be all and end all.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

People are missing the forest from the tress. People freaking out about Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, and now bombing Oman.

The war has been an unparalleled success. Nobody talking about the Epstein Files.

tommyesq said...

Freser is Seinfeld - no learning, no changing.

Rustygrommet said...

So what, it is still going to get messed up after so long at sea, especially considering the steam required for combat operations. It is a much more valid assumption than a lot of the bullshit spewed here.

Backpedal faster, dumbass.
Do you know what an aircraft carrier is? It is a highly complex and intricate machine. It is always undergoing maintenance. All of its systems. The longer it is at sea the more maintenance is required. So when it goes back into port for regular maintenance and refit then the carrier that is in training now will take its place and the one that was undergoing repairs will go to sea and train another crew.

Dr Weevil said...

By the way, another lie about the Abraham Lincoln just blew up. Someone posted a video of a sailor showing how filthy the toilets are on a ship that was allegedly the Abraham Lincoln. Tweeter Fusilli Spock (link) notes (crediting a commenter) that the sailor giving the tour is wearing a hardhat, which means that the ship he's claiming to be the Abraham Lincoln is NOT at sea, and therefore is not the Lincoln, but is a ship undergoing repairr in a shipyard - the only place where sailors where hardhats.

One of the replies claims to have identified the sailor - who's in deep trouble if he's lying to make Trump look bad - and that the ship he's showing is in fact the Truman, which is in a shipyard "undergoing renovations that include the lavatories". It's hard to keep a ship undergoing repairs clean, since whole areas will be blocked from access, and there's not much point in keeping toilets sparkling clean that are going to be ripped out and replaced. In short, another anti-Trump lie bites the dust.

Dr Weevil said...

Speaking of lies, "Obviously my link demonstrates that the Navy is continually looking for better desalination techniques." The Navy is NOT the Coast Guard, you moron!

Joe Bar said...

BOHICA. WETSU. The Green Weenie. BOHICA.
All acronyms for how much we hate (but love) military life.

donald said...

The black mold caught my eye. How does that happen (I spent three years on an old aircraft carrier, USS Ranger CV-61). All I’d did was clean (And do discharges, fight fires, stand watch). Hell, we even completely refurbished our office spaces and re-constructed over 2000 service records after the 1983 fire. My shipmates are having a big laugh over this.

donald said...

We did 122 consecutive days at sea while repairing two main engine rooms and everything around them that had blown apart in the Indian Ocean. That Lincoln shit ain’t shit.

Bruce Hayden said...

“Donald Trump was NEVER in any danger of being drafted. His draft number, based on his birthday, was 356 out of 366.”

Fine. Except that Trump is too old for the draft lottery. Probably 4-5 years too old. Ditto probably for Clinton. And GW Bush joined the TANG to fly.

Draft lottery started in, I believe, 1970. I got a 2-S in 1968, and kept it for the usual 4 years. Next brother, 2 yrs behind me, never bothered, because the lottery had just started, and his lottery number was >350. I went 1-A in June, 1972, and fully expected to be called, with a draft number of 168. Except that the Army had quit shipping troops to Vietnam by then, and so only got to maybe 70 or so that year. Should have known, with the population of nearby Fort Carson exploding. It was one of the installations where soldiers were dispatched to Vietnam from. In any case, spent 4 months 1-A, before the draft was paused in September, and soon ended. Fairly stressful, and part of why I didn’t start grad school for a couple years ago.

With Trump it was fairly straight forward. He was 4-F, and that was pretty much permanent, from his bone spurs. His draft lottery number was irrelevant. Large enough bone spurs were an automatic 4-F. Thats because you can’t March with them. Usually though, the military needed to see them, themselves, and didn’t depend on letters from physicians. A lot of cheating going on during that time, to get out of the draft (witness WJ Clinton).

Turns out that the draft physical was much tighter than the enlistment physical. Good friend didn’t do well in college. So was 1-A most of the time from 18 on. He was too tall and thin, but they measured his height 3” too short, etc. so, he got an induction notice. To get his choice of MOS, he enlisted, with a 5 month deferral. He spent it skiing (we raced together in HS). Showed up in June for induction, and failed that physical. They found “tennis elbow” (he didn’t play tennis). That prevented doing pushups. Did have a fraternity brother who probably did have it from playing tennis. Got a 4-F out of it. But it was always suspect, because he was Long Island royalty, which comes with the same sort of questions Trump’s 4-F did (his family had a lot more money than Trump’s father did).

Rustygrommet said...

Freder reminds me of Destiny. When the debate isn't going his way he simply asserts that the comment isn't what he meant and your stupid for thinking it is.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

Unless you start a war assuming everything will go perfectly, you need an alternative to Bahrain for resupply. Moving supplies in and out of Diego Garcia suggests a serious failure of contingency planning.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

Not only does the Trump administration lack a solid strategy to win the war in Iran, it has no capacity to handle any of the second or third-order effects of the war. No one truly appreciates the scope of Trump’s incoherent policies.

donald said...

Heh.we entered our berthing area by climbing down a ladder. There were three small areas with three sets or four sets of three bunks stacked on top of each other. It was horrible and it was home for two years.

donald said...

I was in Diego Garcia for about ten days. Every morning, everybody had some sort of job to do. I don’t even remember what I did, but I do remember that every morning, they’d pile the marines in some trucks (jeeps, I don’t remember) take them to the other side of the island and would work their asses off clearing brush and other manual labor in horrifying heat.

jj121957 said...

I remember my uncle telling me about having to eat his pack mules while fighting the japs in Burma. If he blamed anyone for those times, it was Hitler or Tojo.

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