December 15, 2025

Trump accuses Rob Reiner of causing his own death through "Trump Derangement Syndrome."

Here's what Trump posted at Truth Social:
"A very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling, but once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed away, together with his wife, Michele, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding, and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, sometimes referred to as TDS. He was known to have driven people CRAZY by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump, with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump Administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness, and with the Golden Age of America upon us, perhaps like never before. May Rob and Michele rest in peace!"

Reiner's son Nick has been arrested for the murders. Assuming Nick Reiner is indeed the murderer, he was certainly angry at his father, but it's absurd to think that the son's anger toward the father is about the father's recent political expression. 

Virtually everyone else has responded to the news of the murder with praise for Reiner's work as an actor and director and has chosen to leave politics for another day. Trump went to the complete opposite extreme, speaking not just about his political opposition to the man but blaming Reiner for his own death and making it all about Trump and larding his statement with self-praise — surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness! — to the point where many readers will wonder whether this is satire.

I mean, is it possible that Trump believes he is doing satire in honor of a great satirist?

I was just listening to Reiner on Bill Maher's podcast, and he was saying that when "This Is Spinal Tap" came out 41 years ago, many people did not get it. They thought it was a real documentary. Reiner says: "Some rockers — some rock and roll people — took it seriously and they got mad.... Like Steven Tyler was upset... and then that Axl Rose from Guns 'n' Roses... and, and you know, God bless him.... Ozzy Osbourne didn't love it...."

But even if Trump believes it's funny, and even if Reiner had the same sense of humor, Trump, the President of the United States, should not be emitting insane trash like that. 

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john mosby said...

The pricks tried to put him in prison for the rest of his life, while shooting him. And they laughed and laughed about the whole thing. Worse, they laughed and laughed about his young protege Charlie Kirk (hyd) getting killed. And the people his grandchildren belong to, and that he grew up next to in NYC before the left fucked it up, are getting killed at multi-9/11 proportions, while the smart set laughs and laughs (Yes, I am aware Reiner was Jewish - but certainly not of the faction that's trying to keep the people alive). So screw it - he's entitled to chortle at the death of an enemy once in a while. CC, JSM

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

I agree.

Amexpat said...

"I mean, is it possible that Trump believes he is doing satire in honor of a great satirist?"

TDS is a real thing but was obviously not the cause of Reiner's death.

Trump's over the top narcissism is also real and was the cause of his Jackass statement.

john mosby said...

Also, Truths like this defeat any theory that Trump's being run by his staff. CC, JSM

Anonymous said...

The president is a vile, evil man.
When Trump dies we can solve the national debt by charging people to piss on his grave.

john mosby said...

There's a nice passage in Revelations: when the two prophets are killed, the people running the world are so happy, they give presents to each other. This describes the motherfucking Left. They do it to Trump and his, he can do it to them and theirs. CC, JSM

Humperdink said...

I am not surprised at Trump’s reaction. Part of it is his brash NYC background but I think the bigger reason is the lefties cheering the attempt on the Trump’s life. That might stick with you.

John Althouse Cohen said...

The president can use humor … but if he’s going to do it publicly, it has to be clear. If it’s a puzzle, he failed, because it’s the president’s job to communicate clearly to the country and the world. If he wants to say things that aren’t true or appropriate with the only defense being that they’re weird attempts at humor, then he should resign as president and become a professional humorist.

Inga said...

"I mean, is it possible that Trump believes he is doing satire in honor of a great satirist?

No. If Trump thinks he is doing satire he is even a sicker fuck than is already obvious.

Old and slow said...

I wonder about Trump's sanity at times...

RigelDog said...

I hate that Trump did this. I really do. He’s capable of caring and being sensitive but has this fatal flaw when he perceives that he has been unfairly attacked. Ugh.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

I meant to say I agree with Althouse. There’s a time for everything, now there’s a family grieving. This is what Melania has to deal with. Bless her heart.

john mosby said...

This Truth may be the opening salvo in the 2026 campaign. Trump may be realizing that he has to make it like the 2024 no holds barred existential contest. He actually does better at it than the Left does. CC, JSM

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

JAC nailed it.

Belle17 said...

The stupidest own goal of all time. Just say NOTHING, man. I know Reiner had TDS, but my god, this is just a horrible tragedy for that family, and a huge loss for those of us who enjoyed Mr. Reiner's work through the years.

RCOCEAN II said...

Its not satire. Anyway, given Reiner's vicious attacks on Trump for over 10 years, why should Trump be nice about it. I did a google search and can find zero evidence Reiner was upset at Trump's being shot or any expression of sympathy.

I did find plenty of glee and approval by Reiner for Trump being jailed and put in Prison.

who knows what Reiner was like behind closed doors with his family. If he could get so angry and hysterical over a politician, God knows what he did with a druggie son.

FormerLawClerk said...

Never miss an opportunity to piss on your enemy's grave.

Prof. M. Drout said...

That was a shitty thing to say and Trump shouldn't have said it.

I know that Reiner said a lot of horrible things about Trump and that he repeated many lies, but no. Just no.
De mortuis nil nisi bonum is not really for the benefit of the dead, who don't care about your approval, but for the benefit of YOU and how you are perceived among the living.

The man and his wife being murdered by their own son, who had long-term addiction and mental-health issues, is plain tragedy and deserves nothing but sorrow and compassion.

This is the first time--and I mean that sincerely--that I've actually been disgusted by one of Trump's 'mean tweets.' Nothing good will come of it.

RCOCEAN II said...

I don't expect Trump to act "Presidental" toward his enemies, because they have never gave the respect due a President. Never. They not only tried to jail him on bogus charges, they cut back on his Secret Service protection and almost got him murdered. Not to mention had the FBI raid his house and rifle through his wife's clothes.

So Trump gives his enemies no quarter. Just like his enemies. Why should turn his cheek? So, little lord fonteleroy's will feel better? The Left has shown they will do almost anything to win and keep power. Its not 1955 anymore.

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Enigma said...

I do not like to speak ill of the dead, but it's not possible to avoid with political public figures. Trump and his many enemies entered a downward spiral after his vow to "drain the swamp" in 2016. His enemies tried to destroy him 100,000 times in 1,000 different ways. Yes, TDS is real. Yes, Kathy made a fake bloody head, yes, Biden's Democrats gave Trump a weak Secret Service team and wouldn't have felt bad if the assassins got him. See the left's reaction to Charlie Kirk.

I'd say Reiner was blinded by his bleeding heart lefty soul long before Trump came around. This was obvious in his Meathead days, and here, seeminingly in how his raised his son. Hollywood is the land of Hollywood parties and unchecked hedonism. The left allowed Harvey Weinstein to go unchecked, and Reiner...allowed his son to go unchecked?

Humperdink said...

Isn’t it funny that a post about Trump reacting in a boorish manner, the Commie lefties on this site continue their hatred of Trump.

rhhardin said...

Trump is always doing a show.

Old and slow said...

It's funny how you come to anticipate just what sort of comments people on here will make. No surprises this morning.

rrsafety said...

Can he shut up for just a moment? Sheesh.

FormerLawClerk said...

Grok:

"Rob Reiner accused Donald Trump of being a fascist Nazi. Other things he called Trump:

* Con man
* Criminal
* Racist
* Misognist
* Soulless
* Sexual Predator
* Traitor
* Pathalogical liar
* Mentally unfit
* Unqualified
* Evil"


When one lives in such a glass house, one should not be throwing these kinds of stones. One might get their throat slit. By their own kid, even.

Leslie Graves said...

Yikes

Lazarus said...

This isn't President Trump's finest moment. I wouldn't expect him to be gracious if Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton or James Comey or John Brennan or E. Jean Carroll or Bill Barr or Letitia James died, but this was an opportunity to be considerate and thoughtful -- or to say nothing at all.

I note that Reiner was quite kind and considerate when Charlie Kirk was shot. That would have been a good model for Trump to follow. At any rate, it's clear that Reiner didn't want Kirk (or the rest of us) dead.

Anonymous said...

Con man
* Criminal
* Racist
* Misognist
* Soulless
* Sexual Predator
* Traitor
* Pathalogical liar
* Mentally unfit
* Unqualified
* Evil"

Cannot find any false words in this list.
Forgot petty and thin skinned.

Breezy said...

Bad call by Trump. He doesn’t need to remind people about Reiner’s politics. He absolutely shouldn’t be injecting himself in this family tragedy.

RCOCEAN II said...

Its nice that some people are cluthing their pearls. Never noticed much pearl clutching over the vicious, insane, attacks on Trump. Maybe because you'd have your hand permanently attached to your pearls.

Trump responds in Kind. He has no reason to like Reiner. And he obviously doesn't. Why be a hypocrite? As I said, some leftists celebrated the murder of Charlie Kirk, and some didn't. And no leftist was upset at the murder of Ashli Babbitt. Or would've been sad if Trump had been put in prison for the rest of his life.

If Trump is being crude and mean, well they deserved it.



D.D. Driver said...

Trump is a cunt.

RCOCEAN II said...

The left puts winning above all. The Right seems to think good manners are more important. Guess who wins?

Laurel said...

Were this any other person, yes.

But Trump is right.

His enemies failed. And they were enemies, not mere political opponents. See the WAPO 1/20/2017 article “The Campaign to Impeach President Trump has Begun”. From RussiaGate to betrayal by senior aides. They impeached him, twice, in order to protect Biden (and likely more scumbags in Congress). They’ve attacked him at state and federal levels with “novel” crimes, costing him time, energy, money and reputation. He’s had to claw and bite and fight the immense resources devoted to destroying not just him, personally, but everyone - everyone - in his orbit. Two assassination attempts - that we know of. Two! And he’s still standing. Still standing!
Did his enemies relent? Have a change of heart? See the error of their ways? Hell, has a single one acknowledged the gross abuse of law fare to get ‘Orange Man Bad’?
No. No. None of them.

And now, an enemy died, horribly it’s true. But an enemy to the end.

After all of this, the sheer chutzpah to demand Trump show mercy is so female in nature, to reject just recompense. When his enemies continue to conspire, no less!!

He is right to see his enemies destroyed, for they tried to destroy him and his.

Ann Althouse said...

"I note that Reiner was quite kind and considerate when Charlie Kirk was shot."

I didn't include that in the post because it's already everywhere, but I have seen it. There is an important difference: Charlie Kirk had never said anything bad about Reiner, and Reiner had said terrible things about Trump.

Christopher B said...

Everybody remembers the pictures of W and Gore yucking it up at Dick Cheney's funeral. Ditto the uniparty lovefest at Carter's and McCain's.

Trump has no filter. Am I surprised the lefties here are gonna preen about how 'unPresidental' it was? not really.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

Donald Trump himself is patient zero for Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Achilles said...

John Althouse Cohen said...
The president can use humor … but if he’s going to do it publicly, it has to be clear. If it’s a puzzle, he failed, because it’s the president’s job to communicate clearly to the country and the world.

If you danced and cheered when Charlie Kirk was killed then you will never get Trump’s humor. We don’t care anymore.

Democrats are not his target because you are evil people and no matter what he says you will hate him and you will hate us. We are never going to care what you think anymore. We know you hate us.

Mr. T. said...

Sorry not sorry.

D.D. Driver said...

Oh fuck off. Its not that Trump lacks a "filter" its that he lacks basic human decency. He's cunt who loves to dish it out but plays the victim if someone sayw mean" things about Trump. The worst is thing you can do is hurt that fat cunt's feelings.

Jupiter said...

"Trump, the President of the United States, should not be emitting insane trash like that."
I can't disagree. But Trump gave his very last fuck a while ago, probably last year. You don't like how he does President, don't vote for his re-election. Just like the Constitution says.

boatbuilder said...

I agree with Althouse. I am fairly certain that Reiner said some very ugly things about Trump, but there's a time and a place. Or maybe there isn't. You don't need to be "transparent" about everything.

Anonymous said...

My cult leader is a vile, demented husk of a human, who is slipping away, faster and faster as his dementia takes hold.
But I am forced to defend him no matter what he says or does because the cognitive dissonance of breaking away from the cult would destroy my psyche.

- MAGAt foot soldier

Jupiter said...

""Trump, the President of the United States, should not be emitting insane trash like that."

If you're unhappy now, wait until he nukes Caracas. I mean, his very last fuck.

FormerLawClerk said...

It's pretty clear that Rob Reiner was using his Hollywood bullhorn to try to get Donald Trump executed.

Calling him an evil Nazi rapist just gives the whack-job assassins in the Democrat Party the go-ahead to try to murder Trump, which they have been doing regularly. So far, 100 people have been arrested for either attempting to murder Donald Trump or threatening to do so.

Rob Reiner cheered them all and encouraged them.

Rob Reiner was a horrible person. He got exactly what he so richly deserved. His own kid hated his guts. That says a lot about the guy. I'm absolutely certain we haven't even heard the beginning of his poor kid's tale of woe living under such a hateful tyrant as Rob Reiner.

Earnest Prole said...

Althouse belatedly discovers Trump is a profoundly profound narcissist.

DINKY DAU 45 said...

wouldnt expect anything different a real "Christian attitude" displayed by that fella.. :(

deepelemblues said...

A lot of civility bullshitting on this blog lately.

Peachy said...

Is Trump wrong? Meathead was obsessed with Trump. Go read his twitter feed.

Anonymous said...

“…… he got exactly what he deserved.”

I gues the christo fascism that has swallowed up the majority of weak minded MAGAts is more fascist than christian?

Color me surprised.

boatbuilder said...

The president is a vile, evil man.
When Trump dies we can solve the national debt by charging people to piss on his grave.


The unequalled self-reflection of our sweet, relentlessly upbeat and civil commenter is once again in evidence.

William said...

If you had expected a classy response from President Trump, you haven't been paying attention. He goes there. That's his brand, and when he goes there, he doesn't make any effort to wipe his muddy shoes before entering. He might even make an effort to step in dog poo before wiping his muddy shoes on the Persian carpet in the drawing room. I don't like his response, but I can't say it's unexpected or a deal breaker.

Smilin' Jack said...

Whatever mean things Reiner said about Trump, he won’t be saying them anymore. Trump should just quietly take the ‘W’ and move on.

Achilles said...

But even if Trump believes it's funny, and even if Reiner had the same sense of humor, Trump, the President of the United States, should not be emitting insane trash like that.

LOL!

Democrats have tried to kill Trump multiple times. They hit him once with a bullet. They have been attacking and killing their political opponents for years.

Really at this point you should be thanking Trump for his forbearance.

Trump is way too nice and the democrat traitors that tried to kill him will be looking back at Trump and realizing that they should have sued for peace when they had a chance.

PM said...

Indescribably malicious.

Dude1394 said...

I don't think he should say anything either, but if we are literally in an existential fight for our lives (which seems to be, becoming more real everyday ) then...hey....

lonejustice said...


“Rob and I remained good friends ever since we made GHOSTS OF MISSISSIPPI. The studio didn’t think I was old enough to do the part, but Rob fought for me. Political differences never stood in the way of our love and respect for each other. I am devastated by this terrible event.”
-- actor and staunch Trump supporter James Woods

Ronald J. Ward said...

Aside from the abject hypocrisy and how poor Trump has been picked on which makes him sad and no one should ever ever critique him in anyway as that would be inviting violence, at this point, with “affordability” and MAGA souring, there is literally no telling what Trump will say or do as he’s in full blown panic mode.

IamDevo said...

Oh, shit. That's one even I wish he had reconsidered.

n.n said...

Trump is working off of liberal Democratic bullshit of witch hunts, warlock trials, and abortive ideation and affirmative action past, present, and progressive. With full consideration, his reaction is quite tame, and his raw humor is characteristic of his New York City roots.

Paul Zrimsek said...

Makes me wonder: just how many of his own supporters does Trump believe are violent terrorists?

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

Trump got what he craves more than anything in the world: attention.

As somebody mention yesterday — Rob Reiner was great as Meathead on All In the Family, and yes he was an amazing film director with an unparalleled 7-run-film debut. But his company, Castle Rock Entertainment, also produced Seinfeld. His influence on American comedy can’t be overstated.

FormerLawClerk said...

"I don't like his response, but I can't say it's unexpected or a deal breaker."

This is precisely the Trump I voted for. No civility bullshit artist is he. He calls out the other side and never lets up, even in death. It's why he wins.

They came sooooooo close to killing him, only to catch it themselves. The grim reaper is coming for all of them.

mccullough said...

Reiner & Trump are both Old Boomers. The Left tried to kill Trump and failed. Reiner’s deranged kid succeeded in killing him.

Leftism is derangement.

Trump s saying what Malcolm X said when JFK was assisted. The chickens have come home to roost.

Bob Boyd said...

Bad form. Not cool.
Could have used the story to talk about his war on drugs or tried to appear magnanimous or better yet, just kept his mouth shut.
But Trump is the only game in town so whataya gonna do? This is not helpful, but it's also not important in the big picture.

Peachy said...

Tea-Douche(D) - tell us how upset you are about the leftist democratic who murdered students at Brown University.

Go on.

john mosby said...

DDD: "Trump is a cunt."

Nah, more like a Cnut:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnut

CC, JSM

D.D. Driver said...

Do we even know who killed the students at Brown? Kash fucked that up.

Anonymous said...

Reachy the MAGat POS,
The brown shooter has been identified?

No, Keystone Patel fucked the pooch….again and has no one in custody.

Freder Frederson said...

tell us how upset you are about the leftist democratic who murdered students at Brown University.

And you know this how? Maybe you should contact the Providence P.D.

There is no excuse for this disgusting "truth". Even if he wasn't the fucking President, he shouldn't have posted it.

Just imagine if some prominent person said something similar about Charlie Kirk. You would want his job.

Anonymous said...

MAGAts, often wrong but never in doubt.

Aggie said...

I understand Trump's reaction. His enemies have not changed, they are still on full attack, and always will be. It's funny, reading some of the vile comments here from people that are devoted to The Hate, yet completely critical at the same time, outraged that Trump might do the same right back.

No sympathy - but at the same time, it would be good to see the President be the bigger kind of person, instead of the same. He still isn't worse, though, because he's counter-punching.

Mary Beth said...

I don't care for Trump's post. I agree with what I think he's saying - when you put hate out into the world, you shouldn't be surprised if hate returns to you. Still, since Trump survived an attempted assassination, he should not be victim blaming.

He needs to realize that there are times when saying nothing (or just make a generic thoughts and prayers post) will drive the Left more crazy than anything he could say. I'm assuming his goal with any post is to drive them mad.

john mosby said...

Trump just don't care anymore:

Well you can tell everyone I'm a down disgrace
Drag my name all over the place
I don't care anymore
You can tell everybody 'bout the state I'm in
You won't catch me crying 'cause I just can't win
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore, d'you hear?
I don't care what you say
I don't play the same games you play
'Cause I've been talking to the people
that you call your friends
And it seems to me there's a means to an end
They don't care anymore
And as for me I can sit here and bide my time
I got nothing to lose if I speak my mind
I don't care anymore
I don't care no more
I don't care what you say
We never played by the same rules anyway
I won't be there anymore
Get out of my way
Let me by
I got better things to do with my time
I don't care anymore
Well, I don't care now what you say
'Cause every day I'm feeling fine with myself
And I don't care now what you say
Hey, I'll do alright by myself
'Cause I remember all the times I tried so hard
And you laughed in my face 'cause you held the cards
I don't care anymore
And I really ain't bothered what you think of me
'Cause all I want of you is just to let me be
I don't care anymore
Do you hear, I don't care no more
I don't care what you say
I never did believe you much anyway
I won't be there no more
So get out of my way
Let me by
I got better things to do with my time
I don't care anymore

(original lyrics unchanged!) CC, JSM

john mosby said...

Because he's still standing:

You could never know what it's like
Your blood like winter, freezes just like ice
And there's a cold, lonely light that shines from you
You'll wind up like the wreck you hide behind that mask you use
And did you think this fool could never win?
Well, look at me, I'm a-coming back again
I got a taste of love in a simple way
And if you need to know, while I'm still standing
You just fade away
Don't you know, I'm still standing better than I ever did?
Looking like a true survivor, feeling like a little kid
I'm still standing after all this time
Picking up the pieces of my life without you on my mind
I'm still standing (yeah-yeah-yeah)
I'm still standing (yeah-yeah-yeah)
Once, I never could hope to win
You startin' down the road, leaving me again
The threats you made were meant to cut me down
And if our love was just a circus, you'd be a clown by now
You know, I'm still standing better than I ever did
Looking like a true survivor, feeling like a little kid
I'm still standing after all this time
Picking up the pieces of my life without you on my mind
I'm still standing (yeah-yeah-yeah)
I'm still standing (yeah-yeah-yeah)
Don't you know that I'm still standing better than I ever did?
Looking like a true survivor, feeling like a little kid
I'm still standing after all this time
Picking up the pieces of my life without you on my mind
I'm still standing (yeah-yeah-yeah)
I'm still standing (yeah-yeah-yeah)

Again, lyrics unchanged. CC, JSM

mccullough said...

The Left is already crazy. Reiner was nuts just like Alec Baldwin. These people stepped into the Arena with Trump and lost. Trump treats Reiner as a worthy adversary by pissing on his grave.

Aggie said...

You'll notice, I hope, that out of all of the Trump supporters here, virtually all had something nice to say about Reiner's achievements, and expressed sorrow at the horrible circumstances of his passing: Respectful, civilized remembrance while not forgetting Reiner's failings with TDS.

Juxtapose that with the majority of the deranged Left, commenting with celebrations of Charlie Kirk's murder, or the attempts on Trump. Vile creatures, nothing more.

Bob Boyd said...

I’m moved by a strange affection for the Donald Trump — as a political entity and as a person.
In America's political culture he is a genuine radical: he doesn’t care if the cool kids hate him. He is unapologetically open and unfiltered and what will his haters say about him when he dies? Nice things? Will they keep silent? Of course not.
Though his style is not mine, I respect his brashness as the ultimate non-conformist.

Anonymous said...

Jesus H Christ.
All the lyrics to a shit Phil Collin’s song? Thats the best defense of rampant dementia and unhinged hatred from the POTUS that the MAGAt braintrust can muster?

Fuck me running, you fuckers are a dim lot.

Inga said...

“…tell us how upset you are about the leftist democratic who murdered students at Brown University.”

“And you know this how? Maybe you should contact the Providence P.D.”

Miss Piggy is on the case, no need to worry.

Wince said...

Not as bad as some typified, but Trump should have "stifled" himself.

john mosby said...

Hag: "Fuck me running, you fuckers are a dim lot."

Credit where it's due - that is concise and punchy. Elegant, even (in the sense used by programmers). I'm totally stealing it. CC, JSM

Mason G said...

"You'll notice, I hope,"

I noticed.

Inga said...

Trump will always have his core ideological base. We see them here among some on the right who have retained their humanity. I’d say that here in this thread, it’s about 50/50.

TaeJohnDo said...

Thank God the son used a knife. There’s too much gun violence in world.

mccullough said...

A knife is more personal

Krumhorn said...

My wife chastised me for saying that Reiner was a obnoxious Trump-hater when we heard the news. She said that was irrelevant. However, it was my very first thought. That level of hate somehow draws bad juju into your life. Some of the Trump-haters around here might want to consider that possibility.

- Krumhorn

Curious George said...

"John Althouse Cohen said...
The president can use humor … but if he’s going to do it publicly, it has to be clear. If it’s a puzzle, he failed, because it’s the president’s job to communicate clearly to the country and the world."

I don't remember you dropping by the blog to scold old Joe during the Biden administration. Better sit this one out and do some stupid movie list.

William said...

In a way Rob Reiner and his wife were victims of Drugs' War on America. The son's mind must have been fried on drugs to commit such a horrible crime. Trump missed a chance. He should have taken this opportunity to preach about all the casualties that Americans suffer because of drugs and that he will re-dedicate his efforts to suppress the drug trade.......But I know the significance of America's drug problems or even the horror of the Reiners' deaths is just a hill of beans compared to the immense tragedy of Trump's mean response.

Freder Frederson said...

My wife chastised me for saying that Reiner was a obnoxious Trump-hater when we heard the news. She said that was irrelevant. However, it was my very first thought. That level of hate somehow draws bad juju into your life. Some of the Trump-haters around here might want to consider that possibility.

And maybe you should look in a mirror.

Saint Croix said...

Trump will always have his core ideological base. We see them here among some on the right who have retained their humanity. I’d say that here in this thread, it’s about 50/50.

How are the Trump haters doing on retaining their humanity? I notice they come out when Trump sends out a TDS mating call. Other than that call-and-response, they seem to have no other purpose in life.

Aren't there any leftists on the Althouse blog who liked Rob Reiner's movies? Did you pay respect for him?

Mason G said...

"because it’s the president’s job to communicate clearly to the country and the world."

Like Joe Biden did in Philadelphia? That sort of communication?

Anonymous said...

Trumps response to the fent crisis is to concentrate on cocaine speedboats.
Trumps response to the affordability crisis is declare it a hoax.
Dementia Donnie’s response to full bowels is to shit his diaper.

Yes, totally trust him and his crack team to solve the drug problem in the US.

Inga said...

“Trump missed a chance. He should have taken this opportunity to preach about all the casualties that Americans suffer because of drugs and that he will re-dedicate his efforts to suppress the drug trade…”

But instead Trump gives a drug running kingpin, the former president of Honduras a pardon. What is wrong with this picture?

RCOCEAN II said...

Just like Reiner from 2015 to his death, the Left uses everything as a chance to attack Trump. You have to be a gullible rube to think they care about civility or respect the office of the President. LOL.

Give me a break.

Inga said...

“Other than that call-and-response, they seem to have no other purpose in life.”

You obviously don’t understand what you’ve just said here, what happened to you?

FullMoon said...

Very Reiner like:

"TeaBagHag said...
The president is a vile, evil man.
When Trump dies we can solve the national debt by charging people to piss on his grave."

narciso said...

These are your people Hag

https://x.com/EYakoby/status/2000567139342942675

Curious George said...

"...and a huge loss for those of us who enjoyed Mr. Reiner's work through the years."

You need him alive to enjoy his past work? I never get these "He/she will be missed" sentiments by fans of famous actors, musicians, etc. who die.


Look, it's awful what happened to Reiner and his wife, awful for his family for his family too. But it's not a huge loss for you.

narciso said...

Yeah much of his work remains in the period before he went nut,

Joe Bar said...

I like many of the things Trump does, and I generally support him.

This, however, was a pretty shitty thing to do. I wish he would fast an advisor so he can avoid these gaffes

rehajm said...

Anybody get a look at what is in Reiner’s media feeds? I’m gonna guess some awful stuff….and yes the fuckers have all wished him dead and even gave it a go a few times so whether I like the response or not I can appreciate why there’s no somber bygones from the President…

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Anonymous said...

MAGAts when someone suggests that schools should have a free-lunch program:

"Goddamn devil-worshipping, woke LIBERAL!

MAGAts when Trump celebrates a brutal murder or calls someone a racial slur:

"As a longtime supporter of President Trump, I am a little disappointed by his conduct earlier today."

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

Trump didn’t go to the “complete opposite extreme” of praising Reiner; he said he was “once very talented”. Still, the overall message was insensitive and solipsistic. Trump gon’ Trump

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

If anything, Trump was insulting his own base, implying that some deranged MAGA killed Reiner for his political views

Earnest Prole said...

I think we can all agree when they are tone-deaf shits we have no choice but to be tone-deaf shits ourselves.

Mary Beth said...

And maybe you should look in a mirror.
12/15/25, 12:55 PM


It's not always a case of "it takes on to know one". Reiner made TDS part of his public persona for years. It's hard not to think of that first. Recognizing hate doesn't automatically make you a hater. It's true that some people will hate back, but others will just be disappointed that someone whose work they admired became so focused on hating.

Peachy said...

Inag - the deranged leftist cultist - is sure that MAGA is the killer.
She heard about it on Maddow.

Peachy said...
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Peachy said...

Tea-Douche Bag and I-NAG are certain that the Brown killer is a Maga. How do we know? They are cultist assholes - who vote Walz.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

1: it was a stupid tweet that Trump shouldn't have posted
2: His point is not that Rob's TDS made people mad at Rob, Trump's point is that TDS insanity helps drive the people around you violent and insane
See: Murder of Charlie Kirk

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Earnest Prole said...
I think we can all agree when they are tone-deaf shits we have no choice but to be tone-deaf shits ourselves.

No, Prole, but all sane people can agree that leftists tone deaf shits are not entitled to concerns about tone.

You don't get what you refuse to give to innocent others

Humperdink said...

I think Achilles may be correct. Having been shot once plus another attempt to kill him, impeached twice, drug through the civil courts by the lefties, invaded his wife’s underwear drawer, trying to jail to him for life. …… Trump is holding back on his response.

Another old lawyer said...

After remaining silent on Cheney's death, maybe this time Trump had an itch he just had to scratch.

Jalanl said...
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Peachy said...

Freder -
a Reddit leftist - with a male BF-Furry - etched "Hey Fascist, Catch" on his bullets.
Yet you leftists lie - and insist - without evidence - that he was killed by anyone BUT a leftist.

Koot Katmandu said...

Wow makes you wonder about Trumps Judgement? This was a total unforced error that will hurt his cause. He did not need to say anything at all.

Craig Mc said...

Well, it was a race to see who would piss on the other's grave first.

Reiner had long become a harmless buffoon. No need to pile on.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

Trump's rant about Rob Reiner raises new questions about Joe Biden's mental state.

Krumhorn said...

It's not always a case of "it takes on to know one". Reiner made TDS part of his public persona for years. It's hard not to think of that first. Recognizing hate doesn't automatically make you a hater.

I particularly admire some of his work, but he made poisonous Trump-hate his signature personal characteristic that overshadowed all that he had achieved. As I said, it was the first thing that came to mind when I heard the news. He invited bad juju.

- Krumhorn

victoria said...

So, Krumhorn, he invited his own demise? That's pretty whack. If that were true, your Lord and Master wouldn't have survived his (in house) assassination attempt. But, he still goes on trashing both the living and the dead, with nastiness that I am disgusted by. I amy not like the guy, but I would never, never, attribute his demise to his "Trump Derangement Syndrome". Th poor man was, possibly, killed by his own drug-addled son. Not the way he should have gone or that he would have preferred to go. He was a talented and (from all the people who I knew who knew him) a kind soul, helping people who needed a little help. And if he pissed off Donny T in the process, more power to him.

narciso said...

Jason Cohen 🇺🇸 on X: "🚨NEW: Jake Tapper says he *CONSTANTLY* covers Trump's missteps because he dropped ball on Biden🚨 @DailyCaller https://t.co/7aJot54ai6" / X https://x.com/JasonJournoDC/status/2000631109969981911

Clyde said...

De mortuis nil nisi bonum is almost always good advice.

Not a good look for the President.

Maynard said...

Trump's rant about Rob Reiner raises new questions about Joe Biden's mental state.

Actually Kaki, your inane ramblings raise constant questions about your mental state.

You have the annoying little twit thing down pat, but I suspect you see yourself as being profound.

Inga said...

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5649278-maga-republicans-donald-trump-approval-drop/

“In April, 56 percent of Republicans identified more with MAGA and 44 percent identified more with the GOP. In the new poll, however, the party was split exactly down the middle, 50 percent supporting each.”

No wonder. My advice to Trump, keep posting your innermost thoughts, we all want to hear them.

narciso said...

We know kak is wak he doesnt need to provide more evidenc
e

Iman said...

“Virtually everyone else has responded to the news of the murder with praise for Reiner's work as an actor and director and has chosen to leave politics for another day. Trump went to the complete opposite extreme, speaking not just about his political opposition to the man but blaming Reiner for his own death and making it all about Trump and larding his statement with self-praise — surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness! — to the point where many readers will wonder whether this is satire.”

I don’t know about all of that, but it’s almost refreshing to see a man of The Left get a taste - just a little taste - of the kind of treatment most people on the right get upon their passing.

I wouldn’t have taken that path, but I certainly understand it. In my bones.

Inga said...

“He invited bad juju.”

So, in that vein, what did Charlie Kirk do to invite bad juju? How about any innocent person who has had anything bad happen to them? You think the juju gods decide who they want to punish based on their politics? What about Karma?

Balfegor said...

Possible but . . unlikely. Trump is usually a lot more controlled about stuff like this. E.g., his off-the-cuff remarks on Ginsburg's death were very different in tone, as was (for whatever it's worth) his prepared statement on Carter's death more recently. Dancing on Reiner's grave like this makes me suspect (a) he had genuine contempt for the man, and (b) that he doesn't see any particular downside in letting people know it.

Anonymous said...

More likely c) Dementia has now totally destroyed what was left of his adderal riddled brain.

Humperdink said...
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Iman said...

“I'm totally stealing it. CC, JSM”

Make sure you wash the spunk off of it first, Mr. Mosby!

Humperdink said...

Inga questioned: “ So, in that vein, what did Charlie Kirk do to invite bad juju?”

That’s easy Inga, he spoke the truth. He confronted evil as evidenced by his Christian responses to those who questioned him at his college rallies. His views on abortion, gay marriage ….. those don’t sit well with your side.

Iman said...

TeaBagHag: If’n you got the plums, she got the time.

mccullough said...

Reiner raised a lot of money for Leftists as have most Hollywood entertainers.

Hollywood has been declining for over a half decade. This is part of the Burn, Hollywood, Burn strategy. This isn’t 1991 and Reiner wasn’t Frank Capra.

George Clooney isn’t getting the Cary Grant treatment when he croaks. He’s getting the treatment he gave Heston.

No timeouts in the Culture War.

Readering said...

So Michelle Singer Reiner, photographer, turns out took the portrait photo that became the cover on Art of the Deal. The reason she was killed?

Beasts of England said...

Trump missed an excellent chance to remain silent. Poor form.

I resisted the temptation to be snarky on an earlier thread because ‘Spinal Tap’ has made me laugh to the point of tears.

Inga said...

“That’s easy Inga, he spoke the truth.”

So, are you saying Kirk invited “bad juju” by speaking the truth? I don’t think so. People don’t “invite” bad things to happen to them. Charlie Kirk didn’t invite bad juju anymore than Rob Reiner and his wife did.

Mr. D said...

Trump should not have said what he said. Full stop.

Rob Reiner was a great entertainer and on balance, the humor and humanity of his works absolutely outshine his dim politics. He and his wife died in a horrible manner and no good comes of it. Full stop.

Having said that, the Marquess of Queensbury/civility bullshit quotient of this thread is off the charts.

D.D. Driver said...

Mr. D is not "civility bullshit" its basic human decency bullshit.

Just the notion that a man would slaughter his oarents out of "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is insane. It stupier and mire deranged than anything Biden ever shat forth. Trump is worse than Biden. Absolute shit for brains.

D.D. Driver said...

And fuck these pieces of shit who feel like its "their turn" to be snivling little cunts. Eat shit. Rob Reiner did way more for my country than Charlie Kirk ever accomplished.

Anonymous said...

Hey now, Charlitan Kirk died giving a fully throated endorsement of the 2nd amendment.

Humperdink said...

Inga responded: “ So, are you saying Kirk invited “bad juju” by speaking the truth?”

Absolutely! He spoke out on the damage we are doing our society as I mentioned above (abortion, gay marriage) in addition to the transsexual issue. One transsexual sympathizer took the bait and killed him. If you don’t see that I can’t help you. Bad juju? Hardly.

Inga said...

“If you don’t see that I can’t help you.”

Humperdink, you are basically saying that “bad juju” is stronger than God’s protection. You might want to spend some time in prayer.

Jim at said...

Its not satire. Anyway, given Reiner's vicious attacks on Trump for over 10 years, why should Trump be nice about it.

I don't think anybody's asking Trump to be nice about. Maybe he could just stay quiet this time.

Ronald J. Ward said...

Beasts of England said...
Trump missed an excellent chance to remain silent. Poor form.

And he missed another opportunity to STFU later today. And he’ll likely miss more opportunities because he’s accomplishing exactly what he wants- for everyone else to quit talking about his failing economy , his self inflected high prices, and masked goons disappearing friends and neighbors.

He’s the master of borrowing time.

Readering said...

Dick Cheney silence better conduct.

narciso said...

Yeah i wouldnt have said it, but if the circumstances were different you think reiner would not have volunteered some
bon mot like that

FormerLawClerk said...

Rob Reiner did way more for my country than Charlie Kirk ever accomplished.

Rob Reiner literally dodged the Vietnam draft by falsely claiming he was mentally ill. He refused to fight for our country. He did NOTHING for our country except take from it and bitch about it the entire time it was making him a fortune.

He was a fucking asshole who hated America his entire life and wasn't shy about telling you why.

D.D. Driver said...

Narsico: google how Reiner responded to the Charlie Kirk murder then go read a book or something.

Reiner was a decent man. Charlie Kirk was a decent man. Trump is a cunt.

D.D. Driver said...

FormerLawClerk: what was Charlie Kirk's service record.

Pathetic.

Anonymous said...

Donald J Trump literally dodged the Vietnam draft by falsely claiming he had bone spurs. He refused to fight for our country. He did NOTHING for our country except take from it and bitch about it the entire time it was making him a fortune.

Jim at said...

And to the leftists on this board (including you, Double Douche), you tried to jail the guy for crimes he didn't commit. You tried killing him - and lamented the fact the assassinations failed. Hell, you still want him dead.

So, take your outrage over his stupid tweet, type it all up and print it out on a nice, white 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper. Then, take that piece of paper, roll it into a tight ball and shove it up your ass.

D.D. Driver said...

Also... TRUMP is also a fucking draft dodger you dipshits!

Its funny being a cunty draft dodger only matters "some of the time."

Humperdink said...

Never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

Inga said...

Using Trump’s own standard (because of having a derangement syndrome of sorts), when Trump finally croaks, we can then post the most vile and hateful things, like how it’s time to dance in the streets, etc. etc.

Right? So we can say Trump invited bad juju.

D.D. Driver said...

@Jim: show me where I tried to have a Trump "jailed" fucktard.

Achilles said...

Bob Boyd said...

Bad form. Not cool.
Could have used the story to talk about his war on drugs or tried to appear magnanimous or better yet, just kept his mouth shut.
But Trump is the only game in town so whataya gonna do? This is not helpful, but it's also not important in the big picture.


Shooting the presidential candidate of the opposing party is bad form.

Murdering your political opponents is bad form.

Importing soldiers from foreign countries, taking money from Americans to pay them, and then burning American flags with them while they kill American soldiers and ICE agents is bad form.

They are fucking traitors and Trump is being way too kind to these pieces of shit.

Sweetie said...

One set of rules. Once you tried to shoot him in the head you didn't think he'd forget did you? Civility is ALWAYS bullshit. It's 2025.

Achilles said...


D.D. Driver said...

@Jim: show me where I tried to have a Trump "jailed" fucktard.

Making up bullshit crimes that clearly never happened or are things everyone else does and trying to throw your political opponent in jail is bad form.

Again these are just fucking traitors and it is time for this to be done.

narciso said...

Thats what youve done for 10 years my dear why stop now

Inga said...

Humperdink, you think you were making a point, but you are missing the point that Trump thinks that someone deserves to die because of their politics. You seem to agree with Trump’s idea that one can “invite” bad things to happen to themselves.

Don’t you or Trump realize that this notion of inviting bad juju can happen to Trump himself? With all the vile hateful shit Trump has said and done over the years, I wonder if Karma might just be saving a very special surprise for Trump.

lonejustice said...

Trump thinks it's a funny joke when someone who publicly criticizes his politics is murdered. What a fucking sick puppy. Trump is no different from those who joked about the murder of Charlie Kirk.

Earnest Prole said...

I think we can all agree circumstances compel vile insults and assassinations from here on out.

narciso said...

As if the last 10 years, hadnt happened

Meade said...

“May Rob and Michele rest in peace!"

+1

Anonymous said...

Some registered rebublican took a shot at Dementia Donnie and missed.

Death and forever war to all those to the left of Adolf Hitler.

- MAGAt Nation

lonejustice said...

Meade, you are a good guy and I like your posts, but nobody who writes that Reiner had a "massive, unyielding, and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME" and blames his murder on Reiner's political views, ever wishes that Reiner would "rest in peace." You and I both know that Trump is delighted that Reiner is dead.

john mosby said...

Inga: "Don’t you or Trump realize that this notion of inviting bad juju can happen to Trump himself?"

Trump certainly does. He either thinks, like Winston, that he leads a charmed life that protects him from such consequences, or that they will eventually catch up to him. Either way, he concludes he should just do what he needs to do, consequences be damned.

Makes him hard to deal with, don't it? CC, JSM

Howard said...

Achilles thanks that they rank and file Democrats or behind me Trump assassination attempts therefore giving license for Trump to make all level of insult against other Democrats.

It's just play acting that he's still MAGA now that he is completely captured by the moneyed interests of the world who control everything. They got his attention by shooting him in the ear.

Now he's playing his role as the joker King getting ready to invade Venezuela on the one hand while giving away the candy store with the other.

Inga said...

“Makes him hard to deal with, don't it?”

No, just the opposite. It makes it easier.

john mosby said...

Inga: "when Trump finally croaks, we can then post the most vile and hateful things, "

Yes, you will. Heck, your lot said the most vile and hateful things of Maggie Thatcher when she finally passed after a long slow decline. CC, JSM

Iman said...

narciso @5:07PM… I agree with your take.

The Left has single handedly expanded the reach and scope of Civility Bullshit.

FullMoon said...

Trump shouldn't have said it. But, now he has people talking about the lawfare and assassination attempts , as well as exposing Reiner's hateful comments going back to 2016.
And talking about failed rehab for drug addicts.

Achilles said...


Howard said...

Achilles thanks that they rank and file Democrats or behind me Trump assassination attempts therefore giving license for Trump to make all level of insult against other Democrats.

It's just play acting that he's still MAGA now that he is completely captured by the moneyed interests of the world who control everything. They got his attention by shooting him in the ear.

Now he's playing his role as the joker King getting ready to invade Venezuela on the one hand while giving away the candy store with the other.


Every democrat supports letting foreign soldiers into our country.
Every democrat supports paying them with money they took from Americans.
Every Democrat supports burning US flags.

Every democrat supports attacking ICE agents and NG Soldiers.

They are usually doing all of these things together.

That is the definition of the word traitor Howard.

You can simp and civility bullshit all you want. They are traitors.

Achilles said...

lonejustice said...

Trump thinks it's a funny joke when someone who publicly criticizes his politics is murdered. What a fucking sick puppy. Trump is no different from those who joked about the murder of Charlie Kirk.

They weren't joking you piece of shit.

They were dancing and celebrating.

Anonymous said...

Every MAGAt is a fascist tool who seeks to destroy our republic.
- Thomas Jefferson

William said...

I wish Trump hadn't said it. There are other considerations. The remaining family must be devastated and uncomprehending. Now's not the time to politicize this. Let the bereaved have a time for quiet sorrow and horror while they try to absorb this terrible event.

jim said...

Trump has always been mentally ill, it's just getting (even) more glaring at this point.

His true believers show their loyalty by amplifying it.

Caroline said...

Unforced inhumanity, full stop.

jim said...

"Every democrat supports attacking ICE agents and NG Soldiers." Of course no one takes you seriously, you poor soul.

mccullough said...

Trump & Reiner are Boomers. They are both mentally ill perhaps. Or maybe it’s just Boomerism, which is worse than mental illness. But Trump survived an assassination attempt. And Reiner got killed by his own kid.

Mr. D said...

D.D. Driver said...
Mr. D is not "civility bullshit" its basic human decency bullshit.


Calling for basic human decency on one comment, then calling people who bother you "cunts," "dipshits" and "fucktards" on other comments suggests something other than basic human decency is at play.

Perhaps you'd prefer a different term than "civility bullshit," but denouncing people for their comments when you're simultaneously issuing ad homina all over the thread seems like bad form, or cognitive dissonance, or bad faith argumentation. You can draw your own conclusions, but my conclusion is your call for basic human decency from Trump or anyone else is bullshit, whether cloaked in civility or incivility.

mccullough said...

It’s all Civility Bullshit. It applies when people die or get killed, too.

Saint Croix said...

You obviously don’t understand what you’ve just said here, what happened to you?

It just struck me forcibly that people on the right on the Althouse blog could celebrate the man's art. Even though he'd been hating on us for 20+ years!

But all the leftists on the blog had nothing to say about it. Maybe you don't like his art, or you never saw it. It was just strange that the only positivity about Reiner came from us.

And when Trump says something stupid, that's what excites you and motivates you. To me that's just bizarre.

Rob Reiner is murdered: 52 comments
Rob Reiner and son discuss their art: 84 comments
Donald Trump says something stupid: 184 comments

Do you not see the problem here?

Anonymous said...

Rob Reiner left mountains of art that all the world enjoyed and its self evident that he’s respected and loved.

Donald J Trump is a demented fascist, determined to destroy our republic but there’s a hard kool aid drinking cult that refuses to see it.

Hopes this helps, St. Croix but I bet it doesn’t.

mccullough said...

Let’s be honest. A Few Good Men was Reiner’s last decent flick. That was 33 years ago. After that it was all dreck. I think half of his Trump hate was to regain some relevance.

Boomer on Boomer trash talking bores

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

It’s striking how a man so obsessed with erecting grand, garish monuments to himself can be, at his core, so profoundly small.

Butkus51 said...

Always be nice to people who call you a mass murderer.

Emily Post wrote that.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

One of Trump's superpowers has been to strip shame from the accessible emotions of his political base.

Saint Croix said...

Donald J Trump is a demented fascist, determined to destroy our republic but there’s a hard kool aid drinking cult that refuses to see it.

I get that you're doing important work, Tea Bag Hag, but maybe you could take a break from the hate for a while. You know?

Also, you need a nickname upgrade. Is this a Tea Party reference? That's way out of date. Can I suggest MAGAwhore?

Saint Croix said...

You could post on the Poppy thread. "The Tea Bag Hag is about to become a MAGAwhore!"

I just think you ought to spread the mania around. Monomania is boring.

Meade said...

“It’s striking how a man so obsessed with erecting grand, garish monuments to himself can be, at his core, so profoundly small.”

You’re speaking of? Rob Reiner? President Trump? Or yourself?

FullMoon said...

I can imagine getting in another push and shove with dad, getting punched in the face, then grabbing a blade and slashing him. Killing mom hard to understand unless she grabbed him after he slashed Rob and he cut her without thinking.

RCOCEAN II said...

"Rob Reiner left mountains of art that all the world enjoyed and its self evident that he’s respected and loved."

Yeah nothing says "art" like "Spinal Tap II" or "So it goes".
Reiner was a Hollywood hack who made movies for money and some of them were liked by broad mass of Americans. IOW, the same people who liked Porkeys II and Death Wish III.

Of course being a popular Producer/Director takes a certain amount of creative talent, but you're mostly taking a story that's already been written. Then hiring a screenwriter, getting the studio to finance it, and then massaging the original story into a film script. The rest is just technique and hiring the right actors.

That's how mass commerical films that Reiner produced and directed got made. LIke I said, he was on the same level as 50 other Hollywood hacks.

RCOCEAN II said...

Another point is that you can be an incredibly successful film director even though 90 percent of the USA never sees your films.

FullMoon said...

Reiner is in same category as DeNiro. I like their work but they are a bit psycho.

FullMoon said...

...were/are

Peachy said...

The twitter feed of one TDS Reiner

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