Writes Jared Kushner, on X.
President Trump would often say, “Iran has never won a war but never lost a negotiation.” The Islamic Republic’s regime is much tougher when risking Hamas, Hezbollah, Syrian and Houthi lives than when risking their own. Their foolish efforts to assassinate President Trump and hack his campaign reek of desperation and are hardening a large coalition against them.Iranian leadership is stuck in the old Middle East, while their neighbors in the GCC are sprinting toward the future by investing in their populations and infrastructure. They are becoming dynamic magnets for talent and investment while Iran falls further behind. As the Iranian proxies and threats dissipate, regional security and prosperity will rise for Christians, Muslims and Jews alike. Israel now finds itself with the threat from Gaza mostly neutralized and the opportunity to neutralize Hezbollah in the north. It’s unfortunate how we got here but maybe there can be a silver lining in the end. Anyone who has been calling for a ceasefire in the North is wrong. There is no going back for Israel. They cannot afford now to not finish the job and completely dismantle the arsenal that has been aimed at them. They will never get another chance. After the brilliant, rapid-fire tactical successes of the pagers, radios, and targeting of leadership, Hezbollah’s massive weapon cache is unguarded and unmanned. Most of Hezbollah fighters are hiding in their tunnels. Anyone still around was not important enough to carry a pager or be invited to a leadership meeting. Iran is reeling, as well, insecure and unsure how deeply its own intelligence has been penetrated. Failing to take full advantage of this opportunity to neutralize the threat is irresponsible. I have been hearing some amazing stories about how Israel has been collecting intelligence over the past 10 months with some brilliant technology and crowdsourcing initiatives. But today, with the confirmed killing of Nasrallah and at least 16 top commanders eliminated in just nine days, was the first day I started thinking about a Middle East without Iran’s fully loaded arsenal aimed at Israel. So many more positive outcomes are possible. This is a moment to stand behind the peace-seeking nation of Israel and the large portion of the Lebanese who have been plagued by Hezbollah and who want to return to the times when their country was thriving, and Beirut a cosmopolitan city. The main issue between Lebanon and Israel is Iran; otherwise there is a lot of benefit for the people of both countries from working together. The right move now for America would be to tell Israel to finish the job. It’s long overdue. And it’s not only Israel’s fight. More than 40 years ago, Hezbollah killed 241 US military personnel, including 220 Marines. That remains the single deadliest day for the U.S. Marine Corps since the Battle of Iwo Jima. Later that same day, Hezbollah killed 58 French paratroopers. And now, over the past six weeks or so, Israel has eliminated as many terrorists on the US list of wanted terrorists as the US has done in the last 20 years. Including Ibrahim Aqil, the leader of Hezbollah’s Islamic Jihad Organization who masterminded the 1983 killing of those Marines.
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What a surprise, another call for open war with Iran. And when the war starts, we will all be assured that "Iran started it!"
Iran would fall on it's own without Obama regime support. The people there hate the Mullahs.
There is no need for war. Just being the price of Oil down and stop giving the Iranian regime billions of dollars.
Jared is not going to be in a second Trump administration, possibly because divided loyalty would be an improvement. And yet President Trump is going to note the killing of the fiftieth Hezbollah leader of the week even as Israel begs the United States to "support" the invasion. There are too many similarities to Zelensky, even as both Israel and Ukraine focus mainly on a narrative of invulnerability while bond markets run away frantically.
We're not going back to the Trump years Tim, when there were no wars and Peace Accords were being signed in the Middle East.
Vote Kamala and get your own bomb you can sign.
Barack Obama should be the first person Donald Trump puts in Guatanamo Bay, Cuba for providing cash to a terrorist nation.
Most of the Iranian people would love to rid themselves of the mad-Mullahs.
Backwards women-subjugating Jew-hating a-holes need to go.
Israel would be wise not to listen to Biden, Harris and Blinken. And Nod for that matter. But of course they know that.
100%. American leftist corruptocrats LOVE to fund Iran. It's their hobby.
Breaking news, another helicopter crash in Iran with top generals and Houthis leaders onboard. They need better aviation safety in Iran.
I like the cut of this Jared persons gib. We should probably have him negotiating in the Middle East.
Ain't that the truth.
Tim… that’s not a call for war against Iran. It’s a call to get out of Israel’s way as they do Hamas and Hezbollah what Americans did to the Red Sticks, Comanche, and others.
Fine, do it without our weapons, our carriers, our sailors, our pilots.
Hitler was a big fan of American history during the Indian Wars too.
Indeed.
I agree with Jared 100%.
I have still never figured out why Obama took Iran's side in all this. Maybe his time in the madrassa in Indonesia has something to do with it.
Tim, notice that they have been ? While our own military has been destroyed ?
You do realize that Jared Kushner is Donald Trump's son-in-law. How on earth can you imply voting, based on this tweet (or X or whatever we are supposed to call it), for Harris increases the chances of war? Also it wasn't Harris who said: “I would tell them, if you do anything to harm this person [a candidate for or former president], we’re going to blow your largest cities and the country itself to smithereens”, that was Trump.
Trump didn't start any wars, that's why he had to go, he was cramping the "endless war" style of the neocons and neolibs. Now that he's gone, we are back to business as usual on the endless warfare front. Maybe his rhetoric was part of the reason that no new wars started, but Trump didn't start any wars and tried to end a couple.
The truth is - the American left and some on the right - want Israel to lose.
This isnt about war - this is about the American left supporting the Terrorist regime. The top tier of the old guard White Male Islamist-supremacist /Nazi Jew haters - the Ayatollahs.
American leftists are the party of war. They want the war.
Israel's people and many all over the ME want peace and modernization.
It's amazing how effective the Mossad is.
Of course Epstein's father in law was a Mossad spy chief, that's well known. And Epstein had dirt on people powerful enough to have a high profile prisoner murdered in Federal Prison under everybody's noses, and to keep everybody who mattered quiet about it, even a Special Counsel, but I am sure that Israel doesn't use any such kompromat on powerful Americans for any purpose that runs counter to the interests of the United States of America, I am sure of that.
Most American people who express aversion to war are expressing hostility to the use of American troops in war. Iran has been waving proxy wars against Israel for several years, and Israel is about to achieve victory. Lots of suddenly pacifist humanitarians are horrified that the need to appease Iran will no longer exist. Iran has oil money, a secular population at odds with the government, and a third rate military. What Iran needs is internal change. Israel is creating the conditions for that.
Kushner's words are sure to annoy the PTB in Iran, especially coming from a guy who has worked hard for amity between Israel and Arabs.
Hmm, might (perish the thought) Jared become an alternate punitive target of the Iranian assassination team(s) here in the country when they can't get to Trump? I don't think it's implausible.
tim in vermont writes, "...we will all be assured that 'Iran started it!'"
And thereby reveals his complete ignorance of the recent history of the entire Middle East.
Some advice to tim in vermont: To cure the ravages of Dunning Kruger, the victim (i.e tim in vermont) must appraise himself of the background of any situation somewhat deeper than 36 hours ago. In the matter of Iranian relations with Israel start with 1979 or earlier.
Like I said, we will all be assured that Iran started it.
ding ding ding!
but Trump didn't start any wars and tried to end a couple.
And failed miserably at his attempts to "end a couple". Trump has also threatened to invade Mexico. At some point, he will have to back up his belligerent rhetoric with action, otherwise the whole world will laugh at him.
Ah, I know this is crazy talk, but … is Israel actually trying to WIN? What a concept.
G-Pub
Tim -- Yes, Hitler used America's expansion to the West as part of his rational by lebensraum. So what? The Red Sticks, Comanches, and others were anathema to the 19th American way of life, just as much as Hitler, Hamas, and Hezbollah are anathema to Israel's way of life today... and ours too.
Field Marshal Freder has announced his foreign policy. Elect (If possible) Kamaladingdong and all will be sweetness and light. Brilliant, Freder !
Agreed. And, if the Dims continue to destroy our own military, we may need Israel's help one day soon.
Michael, it was a mixture of natural left wing reflexive anti americanism, combined with an insane idea that Iran would be made into a responsible regional power. The goal was to basically hand over control of the ME to the mullahs and walk away.
Yup. Ukraine funders most affected.
What is the status of the Abraham accords? In terms of Iran remain a success. In terms of Palestine?
Obama supports Iran because of his house guest, principal advisor and director of his "foundation", one Valerie Jarrett.
Tim, Iran started all this in 1979 when the mullahs overthrew the Shah and took our embassy hostage. Remember ?
We will find out if Trump is re-elected. If not, never.
There's no calculus where this is a victory for Hezbollah, and for just that reason, they will win the hearts and minds of Columbia coeds......The left likes victims more than victors. I suppose if the Islamomanics ever succeeded in their ambitions to make 10/6 a daily event, the Israelis would receive a great deal of sympathy from Columbia coeds. The Israelis would be treated with the same sympathy that was extended to, say, all those people who were killed by the Khmer Rouge. No doubt many Israelis would be welcomed here as refugees. Not Netenyahu supporters, but many of the others.
So what? The Red Sticks, Comanches, and others were anathema to the 19th American way of life
So, now we have progressed past the point of advocating genocide through references to ancient Rome and Carthage and go full blown that genocide is "unavoidable, and provoked, perhaps, but genocide nonetheless" (quoting one of Ann's favorite fellow law professors).
What a surprise. 'tim in vermont' thinks that if we allow Ukraine to use American weapons to strike the bases from which Russia is slaughtering their civilians every night, the US will be at war with Russia. But he doesn't seem to know that, by the same standard, Iran is already at war with the United States. All the weapons the Houthis fire at US Navy ships in the Red Sea and Arabian Gulf are supplied by Iran, who are obviously hoping they will sink American ships and kill American sailors. Can he really be that ignorant? Or is he just a hypocrite, who consistently assumes that everything the US and its allies do is wrong, and everything the enemies of the US does is right?
Women in Iran celebrated the death of Nasrallah - at home, of course, but they posted the videos on social media. Both sexes were out in the streets celebrating in Tripoli, Lebanon (Sunni Muslims) and Idlib, Syria (free Syrians) and no doubt other places. The only place I know where they mourned his death, other than Hezbollah strongholds in Lebanon, was Columbia University.
Freder does not grasp the concept of deterrence.
Freder Frederson said...
How on earth can you imply voting... for Harris increases the chances of war? Also it wasn't Harris who said: “I would tell them, if you do anything to harm this person [a candidate for or former president], we’re going to blow your largest cities and the country itself to smithereens”, that was Trump.
The war has been going on since 1948. Time to end it. I don’t care whether it ends with Iran’s theocracy negotiating its surrender or with the theocracy dying to the last man huddled in their bunkers. But end it.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/09/israel_stops_taking_counsel_from_the_angel_of_death.html
yes the abraham accords were made moot by the action of the administration to attack the Saudis and the UAE while benefiting the Iranians and their proxies,
Yeah, Texas frontier settlers weren't going to tolerate themselves being scalped, raped, killed, or their children enslaved.
"But he doesn't seem to know that, by the same standard, Iran is already at war with the United States."
We are not just talking about supplying weapons in Ukraine, we are talking about American personnel programming the missiles with the targeting data and the paths around air defenses required. We know from a leaked phone call from a German general, that the Ukrainians cannot operate these missiles themselves. That's the real issue, that US soldiers are directly attacking Russian territory and killing Russians on Russian territory. It's no longer a proxy war.
Why does Ukraine matter more to you than the US? Is it that domino theory that got 50k American boys killed in the '60s that proved to be bunk?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-confirms-launching-strikes-on-houthi-controlled-port-power-plants-in-yemen/
Not to worry Tim. the democrats and puppets in Leftist power right now have too many strings attached - to give Israel what they need.
That hostage crisis was settled decades ago. Iran's internal affairs are really none of our business. Why was the overthrow of an Iranian leader such a blow to the US? Was it that he was a puppet of ours? Why was it of such concern? Are we really that worried about how the average Iranian lives? If we were, we wouldn't try to turn every protest over an issue they may have with their government into an attempt to re-install a US and Israel friendly regime.
If we left them alone, they would have more freedom, not less, since every dispute would not be about regime change.
Do you really want the US involved in a war with Iran for the benefit of Israel? I don't.
They/Them (improper grammar) cross-dressers, luggage thieves and insane asylum / criminal inmates in need to sex change operations - and males who insist on taking away women's privacy in their locker-rooms --> will not be denied!
Diversity is our strength - or something.
BTW, the German Chancellor agrees with me, that it would be a violation of German law, for example, to assist Ukraine in launching missiles against Russia, since it would be involving German soldiers directly in an act of war against Russia. So maybe you need to take your argument up with Scholz and Putin, and explain to them that they are both wrong.
I've never understood the rationale for why Democrats supported giving aid to Iran. The best explanation I could come up with is that they don't want any nation or group of nations in that region to have regional hegemony. So they give support to Iran to ensure that Israel and the Sunni states don't come to a largely peaceful arrangement that minimizes the Iranian threat in the region. I don't see how this benefits America though unless it is about creating a demand for US military systems to be bought by those countries.
"The right move now for America would be to tell Israel to finish the job. It’s long overdue."
Jared Kushner is spot-on.
Obama-Biden-Harris are on the wrong side of history in backing Iran, which not only engages in international terrorism, but is basically at the level of the taliban in terms of oppression of its women.
Poor 'tim in vermont' hasn't heard that Iran has a ship loaded with electronic equipment in Yemen, doing the targeting for the Houthis. What he says the US will have to do for Ukraine, Iran is already doing for the Houthis, and that doesn't bother 'tim' a bit. Why is that?
As for the "German general", I note that 'tim in vermont' can't be bothered to provide a link to back up his assertion, which is implausible on the face of it. Did he get it from Zero Hedge or Kim DotCom? Ukraine has had no difficulty hitting targets as far away as Murmansk with drones: why should they be unable to target American missiles accurately? Are Ukrainians some primitive tribe that counts "one, two, many"? Are American missiles designed to be inoperable by non-Americans, so the Pentagon can approve targets on a case-by-case basis, like LBJ selecting sites to be bombed in Vietnam? Do they need to do that, so they can leak the target list to the Russians and help them move things out of the way?
By the way, was the Domino Theory "bunk"? It looks to me like it was confirmed as more than just a theory when South Vietnam fell, and Cambodia and Laos quickly followed, with the massacre of roughly three million people. If that had happened ten years earlier, would Thailand, Malaysia, and the Philippines have followed? Seems likely.
And only an idiot would think I've ever written anything to suggest that Ukraine matters more more to me than the US. Helping Ukraine defend its independence - and its very existence as a state and a culture - seems to me obviously the right thing to do for the US. I've argued this dozens of times here, but 'tim' just pretends not to hear and makes the same stupid arguments over again, after they have been repeatedly refuted.
And no, I am not in fact Ukrainian, by nationality or ancestry, as the lying weasel alleged on a previous thread.
When Freder signs over his real estate, bank accounts, and all financial instruments to a certified Indian nation, I suggest the Mandans of North Dakota, then and only then will I consider him more respectable than my cat.
Valerie Jarret as Iran Muse to Obama has been suggested
A modern dilemma: When Harvard grads are so incompetent, is a guy whose dad had to buy his way into Harvard for him likely to be more or less competent than the grads who got in on their own?
Iran must have other "loaded guns" pointed at Israel -- assuming Mossad hasn't infiltrated all their networks. Some Iranian loaded guns are already here in the US. Others may be nuclear.
tim in vermont said...
What a surprise, another call for open war with Iran. And when the war starts, we will all be assured that "Iran started it!"
9/29/24, 9:40 AM
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Iran has been at war with the US since November of 1979.
I criticize Trump for many things but his management of the Middle East while he was in office was great.
"Israel has eliminated as many terrorists on the US list of wanted terrorists as the US has done in the last 20 years." Read this with regret and envy. Here is a nation of serious people with a government that is defending their way of life. The people of Israel have nurtured a culture that respects and defends itself. The people of the USA have nurtured a culture that despises attacks itself.
"And only an idiot would think I've ever written anything to suggest that Ukraine matters more more to me than the US. Helping Ukraine defend its independence - and its very existence as a state and a culture - seems to me obviously the right thing to do for the US."
No, it's not the right thing for the United States to be dragged into a war with Russia over who gets to speak Russian in a territory that had been Russian for centuries. Canada managed to get along as a federation with two languages. But this was an affront to the "dignity" of the Ukrainian half of the country, apparently.
What's Palestine? Show me Palestine on the map.
"Texas frontier settlers weren't going to tolerate themselves being scalped,"
You mean that the people whose land they took were mad about it? Get out.
I was waiting for the "It will be a cakewalk" comment.
"why should they be unable to target American missiles accurately? "
Why ask a blog commenter when we have the word of a high ranking German general and the agreement of the Chancellor of Germany?
And 'tim in vermont', who can't be bothered to answer my question as to where he heard about this supposed German general, repeats the same Russian lies that I've corrected so many times before. Ukrainians in and out of the Donbas were perfectly free to speak Russian before the invasion: Zelenskyy's TV shows were in Russian! On the other hand, Russian soldiers admit on social media that they are now arresting anyone heard speaking Ukrainian in the occupied territories, and they have also destroyed all the Ukrainian books there. As usual, 'tim' accuses Ukraine of doing what his Russian buddies are in fact doing.
And the Donbas had not "been Russian for centuries". The vast majority of the Russians there and in Crimea were settled there within living memory by Stalin to replace the Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars he had murdered or sent to Siberia or Tatarstan, like the Russians he moved to the Baltics at the same time.
Allah mentioned in Qur’an that Some of His righteous servants were Shi’a of His other righteous servants. An example was Prophet Abraham who was mentioned in Qur’an specifically as the Shi’a of Noah: "And most surely Abraham was among the Shi’a of him (i.e., Noah)” (Qur’an 37:83)
We do NOT in fact "have the word of a high ranking German general and the agreement of the Chancellor of Germany" because 'tim in vermont' refuses to provide any link or even direct quotation of those alleged words, even when asked. And what would these Germans know about American missiles? By the way, a lot of pro-Ukrainian people think Scholz's pathetic subservience to Putin means that they must have caught him in a 'honey-trap' on one of his youthful trips to the Soviet bloc, so they can blackmail him now.
Ice Nine, I hope I'm misreading your post. It seems to be hoping ("perish the thought") that Kushner becomes a target of assassination. Not cool.
You get all of your news from pro Ukraine sources, so I am not surprised that you don't know why Scholz refuses to proved Taurus missiles to Ukraine, nor will you have heard of the intercepted telephone call.
I am not going to spoon feed it to you, but you can figure it all out from this story:
https://apnews.com/article/germany-russia-ukraine-leaked-audio-taurus-98ba4fe85caf7d29902691f543a4dd04
But good on you for arguing from ignorance, we don't see that kind of stuff on the internet every day.
Get your ass over there weevil and be sure to get your entire family invested in this foreign war. Otherwise you’re just some chicken hawk cunt.
they cleaned house with shakr, aquil, and a host of other nazguls who have bedeviled us since the 80s,
Good grief, Ampersand - really? Don't be a dolt; of course I'm not hoping for that. Which is precisely why I said "perish the thought" - a phrase that you clearly don't know the meaning of, even though it is self-evident. You really should know what you're talking about before you tell someone he's not cool. Get out your dictionary.
I asked 'tim in vermont' for a link because I suspected he was lying about what the German general was saying. Sure enough, he was! He wrote that the leak proves "that the Ukrainians cannot operate these missiles themselves". But the AP story specifically says:
"The officers said that early delivery and rapid deployment of Taurus missiles would only be possible with the participation of German soldiers. The officers said training Ukrainian soldiers to deploy the Taurus on their own would be possible, but it would take months."
So Ukrainian are in fact perfectly capable of operating Taurus missiles, once they're trained, and they could of course have been trained long ago, since the Germans have been withholding the Tauruses for more than a year, and training would take "months". And 'tim' once again retails Russian propaganda, almost as if he's being paid to do so.
Freder Frederson
"You do realize that Jared Kushner is Donald Trump's son-in-law. How on earth can you imply voting, based on this tweet (or X or whatever we are supposed to call it), for Harris increases the chances of war? Also it wasn't Harris who said: “I would tell them, if you do anything to harm this person [a candidate for or former president], we’re going to blow your largest cities and the country itself to smithereens”, that was Trump."
You do realize Freder that the Biden(sic) administration just approved moving 40,000 US troops to the middle east. That's called "escalation". Trmp threatening to wipe the off the map? That is called "deterance".
Tim in Vermont:
1. thanks for the link to the phone call leak story - although who leaked the info - might have been the Germans who arranged it.
2. I did not interpret the Kushner memo the way you do (and everyone else here - apparently). He is not talking about attacking Iran. He is talking about dismantling Hezbollah completely while “Iran is reeling” and unable to help Hezbollah or feel confident enough to attack Israel. That’s at least how I read the memo.
"You mean that the people whose land they took were mad about it? Get out.". So. Your position is that a relatively small group of nomadic American Indians, that were 'looked down' upon by virtually all of the other tribes, who were relegated to seasonally roaming a swath of land from interior Mexico up to the Dakotas, that these Indians were entitled to lay claim to all of that territory? Interesting.
Uh - you know, I'm sure, that one of the principle reasons the Mexican government encouraged settling in Texas, was because they wanted a buffer between themselves and the Comanches, and their infernal habit of paying a visit each year in order to plunder cattle and horses and generally wreak havoc. That was their subsistence lifestyle: Far easier to plunder and murder than to hunt and forage.
Proposing crimes against humanity and mass murder is not deterrence, it is the musings of a madman.
"[Kushner] is not talking about attacking Iran. He is talking about dismantling Hezbollah completely while “Iran is reeling” and unable to help Hezbollah or feel confident enough to attack Israel. That’s at least how I read the memo."
Me too.
40,000 troops or 3 to 4 divisions or an entire corps?! Really how did 900 troops (not that I think even that is a good idea) balloon to 40,000?
Nasrallah dead, Hezbollah decimated and the sheep and goats of Lebanon are sleeping more securely at night.
Effendi frederson doesnt dissapoint
Israel doesn't need our "help" right now. Biden is just trying to stay relevant.
More of Tim's "neglect" by the Biden regime.
It's actually 40,000 currently deployed, despite Harris's lie in the debate that none are, and the number is going up
Field Marshal Freder defines as "genocide" the exposure of two isolated populations for 100,000 years whose contact is devastating to both due to absent immunity to each others' pathogens. Got it, genius.
"If we left them alone, they would have more freedom, not less, since every dispute would not be about regime change.
Do you really want the US involved in a war with Iran for the benefit of Israel? I don't. "
You have made clear that you don't want Israel as an ally,. Why on earth would you want Iran whose leaders hate us and have made clear that hate ? The day may come and soon when we will need Israel more than they need us.
Freder is into weakness, like most Kamala supporters
Tim asserts that all that nastiness in 1979 was settled "decades ago." Memories are rare.
You pathetic moron
Iran DID start it
Iran has been at war with the US, and with Israel, for decades
How many US soldiers did Iran kill in Iraq? That's an act of war, you pitiful buffoon
Very true while Obama castrated our own military.
Freder, once again, how little he knows of history or the world.
"Failing to take full advantage of this opportunity to neutralize the threat is irresponsible."
Which is why Democrats, and Tim in Vermont (but I repeat myself. Anyone who hates America as much as Tim does is clearly a Democrat) want Israel to do nothing
Iran is reeling, much to Freder and Tim's discomfort. What a combo !
I live near a large university that has stickers all over the floors about how this is the land of some indian tribe. I would respect it, except that some of the tribes named kicked out previous tribes who lived there in the 1700’s and stole the land and enslaved some of the previous indian residents.
The university today uses eminent domain law to take the land of local shop owners at bargain prices whenever it wants a new building, so as far as morality they can piss off.
USA instigates many groups that are snakes bite your ass after bosom nurturing
I don't fault Iran for trying to kill us in Iraq. I would absolutely shoot any of their armed forces I could but that doesn't change the fact that I completely understand why Iran attacked US forces through proxies.
On the other hand I do fault the people in Washington DC that lied us into Iraq. They lied about why and they lied about their goals and they got a bunch of us killed so they could line their pockets.
People have to understand that all of the warmongering the US does around the world is causing most of the wars going on right now.
If we actually wanted the Mullahs out of power we would drop the price of oil to 50$ a barrel and we would stop giving them money. It would be over in months. That would end the war in Ukraine overnight.
These wars re only happening because of our corrupt regime.
I've never understood the rationale for why Democrats supported giving aid to Iran.
It could be something as simple as ... Iran hates America. Ergo ....
Proposing crimes against humanity and mass murder is not deterrence, it is the musings of a madman.
Still pissed that your side lost the Cold War, I see. Because that's how we won the damn thing without a single shot being fired.
It's called MAD. Some might even call it deterrence.
Tim, it might have been if Carter had taken out Kharg Island like his Joint Chiefs wanted to do.
The Houthis are out of gas after Israel took care of business Tim's friend, Biden feared to do.
Get yourself over to the nearest mental hospital, 'donald': you're raving. I have never suggested sending American troops to Ukraine, or Israel, and neither country is asking for them, or needs them. (In fact, Israel could have done without the sailors trying to build a pier in Gaza.) All they need is weapons, and wishing to provide them does not make me a 'chickenhawk'.
Tim, that was Karl May, a German writer of penny novels.
Iran has been at war with the United States since 1979 whether the United States likes or wants it or not.
Freder doesn't grasp the concept of a lot of things.
I’m with Kushner. If there was ever a time for the US to step in and help an ally it’s now. Iran has been waging war against us and Israel since 1979 and we have a once in a lifetime chance to end it. Brandon and Blinken need to listen to Kushner. Of all the people who have had dealings in Middle East peace initiatives he’s the only one who’s had any success.
Saying so does, of course, make you a chickendick and avid anilinguist.
Amen brother.
Amen brother.
Iran has always been at war with East Asia.
to be exact Jimmah the preacher assist austere religious scholar Khomeini and expel the Shah who then tookover Jimmah embassy : so it is Ds at war with USA
Are you referring to the austere religious scholar Jimmah? Patron saint of peanut town?
Did you know that the Jimmah austere religious scholar library in Atlanta is on the site of Sherman’s hq during the July 22 1864 Battle of Atlanta? It is where MGen McPherson’s body was brought after his shooting by Cleburne’s troops.
Did you know that the Jimmah austere religious scholar library in Atlanta is on the site of Sherman’s hq during the July 22 1864 Battle of Atlanta? It is where MGen McPherson’s body was brought after his shooting by Cleburne’s troops.
Michael F explains failure of Abraham accords.
The "failure" of the Abraham Accords was that Readering and her Warmongering party wanted war and they made more war happen.
There is only war in the middle east because of terrible people like Readering who vote for the war profiteering regime.
Jared and Ivanka's Affinity Partners endeavor received $2 billion from Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Salman and another billion from royals (who support Hamas) in Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. But Affinity has strangely never returned profits from its investment earnings to any of these Arab sources.
So this stupid written Javanka attack against Iranian and Hezbollah bad boys have long been bought and paid for in spades!
Freder Frederson
"So what? The Red Sticks, Comanches, and others were anathema to the 19th American way of life
So, now we have progressed past the point of advocating genocide through references to ancient Rome and Carthage and go full blown that genocide is "unavoidable, and provoked, perhaps, but genocide nonetheless" (quoting one of Ann's favorite fellow law professors)."
I often wonder at your agressive ignorance. I would enjoy an afternoon explaining to you the wars of extermination the various tribes participated in before the White Man even got to this continent.
Freder. Remember MAD? Do you know why the United States has more aircraft carriers than anyone else.
Why are those troops even there? What did Kamala say about any of our troops in a war zone?
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Iran is Israel’s enemy; Israel is Obama’s enemy; ergo, Obama supports Iran. Obama hates Israel because he is a man of the left, and the left hates Israel. The reasons for that run the gamut from idiotic post-colonial theory to good old-fashioned anti-Semitism. Of course, Iran is also the enemy the United States. But when it comes to deciding loyalty, the left will always prioritize sickeningly stupid “globalism” over nation. The enduring mystery is why anyone who supports or even likes Israel would vote for Obama and his Biden-Harris minions (yes, I’m talking to you, Jewish Democrats!). In seeking to “stabilize” the Middle East by “rehabilitating” the murderous mullahs of Iran, Obama intensified Iran’s existential threats against Israel. And he did so with full knowledge, motivated by his leftist hatred for what he called that “shitty little country.”
It's offensive of you to rely so thoroughly on ad hominem arguments when you display Socrates as your avatar.
Good! If the Saudis agree to normalize relations with Israel - Your Corruptocrat Party and the evil White Islamist Supremacist Ayatollahs of Iran are F*ed.
I would enjoy an afternoon explaining to you the wars of extermination the various tribes participated in before the White Man even got to this continent.
That would be some trick considering there are no written records of that period exist (I specifically limited my comments to the current continental U.S.). Even the written languages of Mexico and Central America, were mostly destroyed by the Spanish.
Regardless, even if your biased history is true, genocide by one group does not justify genocide by another.
Biden, Coke head Hunter and Joe biden pocketed millions from illegal and secret pay to pay deals with Ukraine. Using shell companies to hide it all. Not paying taxes. Media dutifully hid.
so what is your point - Lefty Gadflunky?
Not really, Freder, There are oral traditions and archealogical evidence.
But like another poster who liked to assume the high moral ground by accusing others of genocide I'll remind you that the current situation in the middle east and the past situation in the United States do not meet that test. It does not meet the definition of "genocide".
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If we actually wanted the Mullahs out of power we would drop the price of oil to 50$ a barrel and we would stop giving them money. It would be over in months. That would end the war in Ukraine overnight.
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To be fair you are asking for "drill, baby, drill." That has been the Republican and conservative position for as far as I can remember and for as far as I can remember the Democrats and liberals have been opposed to it. If you want to crush Iran and Russia you need to crush their economy. Their economy is built on petrochemicals. If you want to crush them you need to crash the price of oil. If you want to crash the price of oil you need to increase the supply, and drill, baby, drill.
The right is for this. The left is against this. Say what you want but there is no crushing Iran or Russia without drill, baby, drill.
For those who seem supportive of Iran and terrorism and who seem to me to be opposed to Western Civilization (gadfly, Tim in Vermont, sometimes Jupiter), the reality is the goal of radical Islam or Islamism is world rule. The world is divided into two regions, the world ruled by Islam and the world with which Islam is at war. Meaning - Islam must rule all of Earth. The goal is worldwide Shariah. You can convert, die, or become a servant of Islam. There is no other option. They want to kill you, me, and everyone else who does not bend a knee. The West must by definition be at war with Islam or submit to Islam. There is no third option.
So then the question is - do you want the war to be fought here or there? I am as conservative as they come and I supported the War in Iraq. Why? Bec at the time we had several terror attacks against USA annually under Clinton. Our embassies were being bombed, the World Trade Center was bombed under Clinton, USS Cole, Khobar Towers, and many more. We were at war. The question was did we want to bring the war to them in the Middle East or did we want the war fought in the streets of the United States? I would much rather have our soldiers - who volunteered and trained for this - to fight rather than schoolteachers and shopkeepers here.
But you're telling me we have the option that Israel is not only willing but eager to take ALL the risk, we don't need to put any US Soldiers at risk, and ALL they ask is "just give us weapons to kill the bad guys!?!?"
There is literally NO cheaper way for us to defend Western Civilization in general and USA in particular.
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