I was listening live, and this argument really struck me at the time. But, on reflection, I thought it was an inaccurate representation of what Trump has been saying. I think he's been saying that he wants to leave abortion regulation to the states and keep the federal government out of it.
But why should we trust him? Nevertheless, I do think it's wrong to say "we all know he will sign a national abortion ban." It's justified to scare us with the possibility, but "we all know he will sign a national abortion ban"? No, I don't know it.
ADDED: I've been following the Trump campaign every single day, and I have followed the post-Roe abortion debate every day. I have a tag "Trump and abortion," and using that, I can see I have 3 posts to show you here:
April 9, 2024: I linked to the WaPo article called "Trump rages against [Lindsey] Graham on abortion in rare break between allies" (WaPo). Graham was for a federal ban on abortion after 15 weeks, and Trump favored leaving it to the states as a matter of pragmatic compromise.
May 22, 2024: Responding to a bill about contraception access, Trump said, "We’re looking at that. Things really do have a lot to do with the states, and some states are going to have different policies than others."
It sounds as though Trump was trying to protect himself politically, and he liked the leave-it-to-the-states position as a matter of practical, electoral politics. He cannot be trusted not to sign a bill that bans abortion, though I'd expect such a bill to contain the 3 exceptions and to start the ban only after some number of weeks. In short, Kamala Harris is exaggerating, but the threat is very real.
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A total Lie.
But they "all know it."
It didn't strike you as complete nonsense?
Trying to call state laws a Trump abortion ban means they don’t understand how our government is designed and/or how they will choose to ignore it’s mechanisms. We all know that…
No State has aborted the performance of human rites. In the worst case, a life can be Planned up to six weeks, in agreement with the laws governing assessnent of viable life in all 50 States, following conception without judgment or labels or Democratic carve outs. Baby steps.
I will take "statements made to scare women" for $500 Alex...
SC has already said it is a states issue so why would he suddenly go all in on a national ban when it is already a state's issue? Now that does not stop Congress from passing such a bill and Trump choosing to sign it but Trump just can't do it on his own. I would expect a VP to understand this but we are talking about "kneepads" here so she may actually NOT know how any of this works...
“But why should we trust him?”
We shouldn’t.
It should make women angry that Kamala Harris thinks they are so fucking stupid they will fall for this.
This is the definition of demagoguery.
This is equal parts stupid and evil.
> Liberals, Democrats and leftists/socialists want to use birth control to prevent life from forming.
> If it miraculously does, they want to kill it with abortion.
> If a child is born they will work overtime to deform its sex organs into the opposite gender as young as possible.
> If that doesn’t work they want to turn it homosexual.
> If all that fails and the child is not white and grows up, the absolute worst features of its culture must be promoted to either make it controllable, useful to them, or on a track to die preferably before it has kids.
> If the child is white or any race sufficiently dangerous to be labeled white (such as Asians) and grows up to be a functioning heterosexual, they will threaten it, publicly pronounce that they wish to kill it, and work tirelessly to disenfranchise it at the economic and political level.
Noticing a pattern? At every stage the overwhelming anti-natalism truth is beating you in the head with a sledgehammer.
They’re not pro-choice. They’re anti-life.
Why should we trust her? On anything?
"It's justified to scare us with the possibility"
So false fear-mongering is "justified"?
""we all know he will sign a national abortion ban . . ."
How would he even do that? Where does the, you know, Constitution give him any authority to do that? What's in it for him politically, right after he has purged the GOP platform of social conservative stuff? A few moments' thought exposes the absurdity. Makes the effective fear-mongering appeal to women all the more striking.
Life was good under Trump. Our nation is destroyed under Chi-Com Covid open border Biden.
Abortion is the big distraction. It is really all the left have.
They don't care how he would do that. They don't want facts. They want to be scared.
But why should we trust him?
Your TDS has made you fall for the “Trump lies” crap? He engages in hyperbole and puffery, yes, but he’s nowhere the inveterate liar that Biden was, Harris and Walz are, and Hillary — whom you voted for, remember! — was and still is.
It's justified to scare us with the possibility,
No it isn’t
but "we all know he will sign a national abortion ban"? No, I don't know it.
And it’s a black mark against you that you even suspect it. Go back through his speeches. What has he specifically said about abortion? Consider educating yourself.
Harris resorts to outright lies and the vengeful ladies applaud.
You saying she’s a liar? Trying to scare voters? Hmmm, why would you say that about her? Are you racist or sexist or both? Kamala is the best. The one and only. Mmm mmmm mmmm Kamala Harris Obama
Remember she tried to prosecute Daleiden for revealing Stem Express trade in baby parts, Pepperidge Farm remembers,
Fear and lies are all the Dems have. FACT.
Fusion GPS helped out in that process, trying to declate the evidence as 'cheap fakes' that's what they suggested then,
There's no possibility that such a bill would reach his desk or that he'd sign it if it did.
She knows as much about state legislatures as she does venn diagrams or the cloud,
It's demeaning to believe that women don't care about anything as much as being able to eliminate the life growing in them. I'm proud to live in a state where the unborn are treated as something not to be discarded like the contents of a bedpan.
So long as the Democrats don’t blow up the filibuster, there will be no national abortion ban no matter who is President.
A complete lie, but you bought it for a little bit.
Despite her rallying cry- and really- the only argument she's got in her pocket, the number of abortions in the US actually increased since the Roe v Wade decision was sent back down to the states. Now- in the numbers, there are probably some states that have had fewer, and some states that have had more. Kinda like our crime stats. Or...to be more specific, murder stats.
There is most definitely access to abortions. Might not be in your state. But even that can now be changed. All you need to do is change your state legislature. But remember, when things go too far one way, they have a tendency to go back the other way.
The established Pro-Choice religion of progressive sects in Democratic districts exercised with liberal license empowers incestuous predators, pedophiles, rapists, groomers, and misogynists and other sexual orientations made legal under Democratic law. The equitable inclusion of males in female spaces only builds on Democratic hate of the fairer sex.
That said, keep women affordable, available, reusable, and taxable, and NOW as womb banks for male transgender homosexual couplets. We need a separation of cult and State.
You've come along way, baby... fetus.
The established Pro-Choice religion of progressive sects in Democratic districts exercised with liberal license empowers incestuous predators, pedophiles, rapists, groomers, and misogynists and other sexual orientations made legal under Democratic law. The equitable inclusion of males in female spaces only builds on Democratic hate of the fairer sex.
That said, keep women affordable, available, reusable, and taxable, and NOW as womb banks for male transgender homosexual couplets. We need a separation of cult and State.
You've come along way, baby... fetus.
Come on down to the Harris-Walz Hawk Tuah 2024 rally and get your Moloch pride merch! We've got your "GO BA'ALS DEEP" shirts right here! Need newborn tuckable pampers? STEP RIGHT UP! A How To Sacrifice Your Child To Tanit Seminar is happening in the tophet next to the can in the back! Here at Kamala's Cat Lady Crab Shack and Abortion Emporium, we have everything for your collapsing civilizational needs, and when it comes to pregnancy termination pricing, NO FETUS CAN BEAT US!
Women aren't very bright.
"He cannot be trusted not to sign a bill that bans abortion, though I'd expect such a bill to contain the 3 exceptions and to start the ban only after some number of weeks...."
Well.... aren't you posturing a little, here, Ms Althouse?
In all of the examples I've just read - and in the few times I've heard Trump speak about this - the conclusion that has been given, is that he would leave it to the states. And also, that the states would likely make differing laws on this subject. So: What facts are in support of your assertion: Trump cannot be trusted? What underpins this viewpoint?
Like France? Progressive France?
"Trump signals support for a national 15-week abortion ban" - NBC
"Former President Donald Trump is suggesting he would be open to supporting a national ban on abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy, with exceptions in cases of rape, incest or when the life of the mother is endangered."
Any national abortion restrictions anger the collective. Abortion up until birth - or bust.
I don't think he'd sign it. Just like he says he wants to leave Social Security and Medicare alone, he knows what will fly and what won't. Good spidey sense.
In Colorado - Abortion is hyper legal. You can get an abortion up until Birth.
Everyone who wants to have unprotected sex and use abortion as birth control - should move to Colorado.
It’s a lie, plain and simple. There’s no need for further analysis.
We can be pretty sure Trump won’t sign a national abortion ban, not merely because he won’t be presented with one (it’s pure Democratic scaremongering;, AKA, business as usual for the Left), not merely because he says he won’t sign it, but because his record supports him opposing a national ban.
show me the actual quote, no empiecen con esas sandeces, don't start with this carp,
It used to be the National Rifle Association was the left's "boogie man" for their lobbying efforts. However, unlike Planned Parenthood, the NRA never received federal funding which, after laundering, was used to lobby the same federal government for additional federal funding. Everyone knows (or should) know that.
Not amazing anymore that with MSM totally committed to them the Dems no longer tell half truths that can be exposed. They simply go with total fiction that they count on voters to accept for no other reason than it’s what’s being parroted as reality on TV.
That quarter inch miss by the Dem assassin team just turned the tide. Hate Trump all you want but he’s our fighter with courage to expose himself to death to win this fight for us.
Harris is running on the ONLY thing that matters to the left. There is only one freedom that matters: The unrestricted right to kill an unborn child, for any reason at any stage, including post birth if you much up the pre-birth process. That is why they don't care that Biden is senile, that Harris has no accomplishments. If you gave weighting to ALL potential political and leadership issues, Abortion would receive 51% of the value. This means that a gibbering idiot would get the vote from the left as long as they affirm the right to murder the unborn. That is why we really can't logic our leftist friends on any other issue before us. They don't matter. Free speech, legal rights, constitution: irrelevant.
It might help to distinguish states with reasonable abortion bans, like giving you enough time even in exceptional cases to find out that you're pregnant, and enough time so that a sonogram fetus is cute, which is a time that there's wide agreement on if you take votes, and the 6-week bans enacted by dysfunctional Republican legislatures who prefer losing to giving up a dogmatic principle.
It's always been about variability (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis). Men tend to occupy both the mean as well as the extremes in the bell curve, whereas women mostly occupy the mean.
Essentially, both women and men can be smart. Quite smart. But in almost any distribution the smartest man will be smarter than the smartest woman. At the far edges of the distribution, both in terms of idiocy AND intelligence, you will always tend to find a man.
It should make women angry that Kamala Harris thinks they are so fucking stupid they will fall for this.
They are so fucking stupid and they ARE falling for it. I've said many times before, the left will tolerate no restriction, so there is no compromise. a European style solution would be anathema to the US left.
Tell me that you don't understand seperation of powers without telling me you don't understand seperation of powers.
1. By overturning Roe, Abortion law is back on the states. 2. To ban abortion nationally, Congress would have to pass a national abortion ban through House and Senate. This is highly unlikely, especially since the House faces elections every two years as does 1/3 of the Senate, and their main goal is reelection, plus the Senate is usually a tight split. 3. Then Trump would have to sign it. 4. Then when the next round of elections came, the people who didn't want it could pass a new law.......
So, permanent national abortion ban (or legalization) is not likely in a post Roe world, and even a 2 year one is unlikely as the GOP is no longer a monolith on abortion and would have defectors in both houses even if they achieved majorities.
Sheesh. The idea that a President can change national law by fiat--- well with Chevron overturned, that's basically impossible! Get with the times and read your court cases, Harris and Harris Voters!
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I mean, this line of attack will work as most Americans have a single civics class in grade 10 and promptly forget it all.
“More than 20 states” have an “abortion ban”? Doesn’t that mean then, that “almost 30 states” have NOT banned abortion? What a country!!!
Don't trust any politicians but assume that they're less likely to do the things they say they won't do than the things they say they will do.
Trump has said repeatedly that the problem with Roe was that it took abortion away from the states and that he was satisfied with Dobbs. Does anyone seriously think that he lusts to have a national abortion law? Is there much chance that Congress would pass such a law?
Backgrounds and foregrounds, deeper convictions and pragmatic concessions, can be hard to distinguish. Isn't it more likely that Trump's kind words to more convinced pro-lifers are pragmatic and political, and that his expressed policy represents his real belief?
You're dealing with people who do believe the President an change the national law by fiat, not just because it's what they're used to (thanks Obama), but also because that's what they want.
They don't want to go through congress. Or the supreme court. The law is something decided in smoke filled rooms by the same people who just chose Harris for their voters.
They want a queen.
Abortion "=" birth control. Unlike other modes of homicide, abortion can be carried out in darkness in a sanctuary State. This is a wicked problem that has to be addressed through moral reform. We cannot sequester the "burden" of evidence, which empowers pedophiles, rapists, sadomasochists, incestuous predators, and other deviant sexual orientations.
I’d place a higher probability on them passing and signing and enforcing a national right to anytime anywhere abortion, while declaring the current scotus as illegitimate
The Guardian says 14 states have a "near total" ban on abortion, and four states--GA, SC, FL, IA--have a ban after six weeks. Here. This would not ban the "morning after" pill, which I believe is now the most common form of abortion in the U.S. CNN lists individual states with "bans," and only 9 say "no exception for rape or incest." Here.
Please Trust Adam Schitt(D), Kamala, and Maddow. All lying liars who lie.
Says the devoted leftist Soviet Inga.
A complete lie, but women will fall for it. They WANT to believe that lie. We may end up deeper into war, and economic chaos as we inch closer to totalitarianism, but at least there will be plenty of abortions and puberty blockers for kids.
What liberal abortion voting women fail to realize, is the further we erode, and head toward and totalitarian censorship society...you may be forced to get an abortion when you don't want one.
Every ignoramus "knows" what Kamala "knows" and that ain't much.
I continue to be amazed at the number of women who believe that the President has anything to do with abortion standards in any state.
I’m further amazed and disgusted that the mainstream press continues to push this myth.
What provision of Article I of the Constitution authorizes Congress to enact a nationwide abortion ban?
It's all they have. It worked in 2022 but the economy is worse now.
Consider educating yourself. -Not going to happen.
So, the 'threat' is that the President signs something state and the peoples representatives have decided should be law?
TITLE 18
CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
CHAPTER 6
ABORTION AND CONTRACEPTIVES
Idaho improves the standard of care for mother and child, and mitigates social progress under Democratic law thst makes it illegal to discriminate by sexual orientation; pedophilia, incest, etc.
“Kamala Harris is exaggerating“
Do you know that?
I can't find a single state with an abortion ban. Restrictions yes, a total ban, no. Women are the majority of registered voters in every state and cast about 3% more votes than men. According to Gallop, men and women hold similar opinions on abortion, so men do not outweigh women on this issue causing the restrictions in certain states. I see no reason to blame anyone but the voters in each state for their state's abortion laws.
Trump said he would leave COVID19 shutdowns, etc., to the individual states - and he did. I see no reason this should be otherwise.
The Social Christians at the RNC have reported to them being bullied by Trump, and others, to get the abortion ban off the RNC planks. He knows it was those idiots who sabotaged the 2022 midterms because idiots like Lindsey Graham and Mike Pence rushed out to call for a national abortion ban when the decision returned the matter to the states.
And yes, the Dobbs decision means that a lot of state level Republicans are going to have to be replaced. Too many of them are ideological idiots who were contained under Roe but now more rational people need to be voted in.
Worry not. When that day comes they will find a way to rationalize it to, whatever it takes to keep from having to confront the actual forces trying to control their bodies...and their votes.
She is incapable of campaigning without lying.
Yet your candidate is the inveterate liar on this topic, not Trump. He has neither campaigned for nor endorsed any state bans.
Look just above your comment. That's why Kamala says it. It works on a certain type.
We’re in that messy place where people need to debate and organize and find compromise. What a surprise - we’ll all expect a little dismay in the end, but hopefully the fear mongers on all sides will chill.
Trump set this process up - he wouldn’t short circuit it. That’d be illogical.
Even if someone tried to enact any form of National Abortion Law, either a restriction or a free at any time, wouldn't the Dobbs decision mean that it's none of the federal governments prerogative. Any law either way could be easily challenged and declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. I don't see how abortion comes under the interstate commerce clause which is the usual backdoor for the Federal Government to usurp the 10th Amendment.
But then again, I am not a law professor.
I can't find a single state with an abortion ban.
Are you using SDC (Situational Definitional Changes) like they do? For example, they don't want to "ban" guns, they just want them to be so prohibitively expensive to buy or load that civilians cannot do so. NOT a ban. However, if you propose restricting abortion to the first 37 weeks of pregnancy and that means for the last two weeks or so they might have to carry to term, well. THAT's a BAN. To be Leftist is to always use SDC to bend the language to your will, while calling your opponent (who might be foolishly assuming words have set and understood meaning) a liar.
I read something in the paper today, maybe yesterday, that noted that abortion numbers have increased since Dobbs.
Harris fools you once, shame on her. If it happens after that, shame on you.
‘ “Kamala Harris is exaggerating“
Do you know that? ‘
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Was her mouth moving? She’s lying.
You must be a laugh riot at a party.
This whole episode reminds me of an unhinged post on X I saw where an ex-girlfriend quoted a noted journalist who was ranting about "trump selling himself as the Messiah" in a long tradition of con-men. I feel sorry for Laura, a brilliant professional accomplished woman. (And HOT but that's not germane to the story.) And she's completely swept up in Trump derangement.
Then I realized, the only other place I'd seen that unhinged assertion, and it has appeared many times, is here. Within these comment sections I have seen many times where Trump is referred to as "Messiah" or "your God" by Inga and "April Apple" a/k/a "Go F Yourself" etc. Mostly the latter not the former. Make of it what you will.
"It's justified to scare us with the possibility"
Do you lie awake nights, worrying that you might never get to have another abortion?
Trump could care less about abortion, immigration, Ukraine, etc., etc. He has to win this election to have his best chance to stay out of jail. The closer we get to Election Day, the more unpredictable he will become.
No, I'm using the word "ban" to mean the dictionary defintion: "an official or legal prohibition." My point is there is nothing stopping a state from enacting abortion laws to suit the citizens of the state.
On abortion, Trump's true position is that he doesn't give a shit. Period. To the extent that he does care about human life, his current advocacy for it to be legal to kill prenatal babies before 15 weeks and then wide exceptions beyond that are what he thinks will get him political support....which it will not.
What is also clear is that even if he thinks there should be legal protections for all human life, those human lives will just have to take a back seat to his personal desires. Which makes Trump thoroughly pro-choice.
And you know this how? Like Harris you are a mind reader?
As should have been done at the time of Roe v Wade, submit a damn constitutional amendment on abortion and get it past the states, one way or the other, so the national politics can be done with it. It has been nothing but a red flag to wave in front of the gullible for 50+, used by both sides only to demonize opposition and rouse a base of voters.
Trump could write a pledge in his own blood, on the life of his firstborn child, hand on the Bible, that he won't sign a national abortion ban. He could put his entire net worth into escrow, to be released to him in 2029 only on the condition that he not sign a national abortion ban.
Althouse would still say, "hmm can't trust him on this topic."
The corrupt left want Trump in prison. Gee - we are so shocked!
I don’t think Trump is even anti abortion. Like most rational human beings he is against late term the Europeans are against late term abortion. Trump supported getting rid of Roe because it was bad law and anti states rights. He isn’t really anti abortion. I’m sure he’s paid for a few in his time.
Hysterics.
20 states have a Trump abortion ban? What makes any state law "Trump's"?
Will Walz tell Harris that she doesn't have a right to spread her misinformation? Or is misinformation like beauty, in the eye of the beholder?
You mean like China.
He saga is STILL dragging on after 9 years, since Kamala had his home raided.....https://eppc.org/publication/big-abortion-v-david-daleiden/
You also have to remember the Democrats are the Party of Magaret Sanger and Eugenics.
You just can't be honest about anything.
It is entertaining to watch these rather limited intellects project their own stupidity and hatred onto Trump's thoughts as if they could read his mind.
Stupid leftist projects his stupidity at Trump as if anyone cares about his mind reading "skills."
Filed under Free Speak we don't like
I am perplexed by this entire discussion. Trump says now "leave it up to the states." My understanding is that he earlier also suggested limiting it to the first 16 weeks of pregnancy. In what sense does the word "ban" apply to either of those? Are laws limiting driving licenses to people over age 16 a "ban" on driving? I see no one on Trump's team actually suggesting a ban on abortion or even hinting at it, as opposed to suggesting various forms of restriction. Something we had under Roe and which most European nations have on abortion before some set number of weeks.
Her jive gets real old, real fast
Trump should suggest free "morning after" pills for every woman. Simplify, eliminate the middle man and the discomfort.
Even if (something like) Lindsey Graham's proposed bill (“banning” abortion after 15 weeks) were to be later resurrected—passed by both houses of Congress (over a certain filibuster!), then signed by President Trump (despite his recent vehement opposition)—that would merely place America right in the center of where (oh-so-liberal and woke) Europe is positioned in this regard.
As the map at this location reveals, the bulk of Europe (including countries like Germany, Belgium, Denmark, Czechia, Austria, Hungary, Italy, Switzerland, and Ireland) place the cutoff limit for their “ban” at 12 weeks—i.e., less than 3 months—or 13 weeks in the case of Austria. Many other countries put their abortion limit even earlier than that.
Only a relative handful of nations (France, Spain) make it 18 weeks; 20 weeks for Sweden and Iceland, while the UK and Netherlands put their limit at 24 weeks (5-1/2 months).
But even those “liberal” laws are far more restrictive than what the Democrats in the U.S. demand—supposedly as every woman's undoubted right.
First time the Democrats have lied about Trump.
Anything less than right to kill up to and after actual completion of birth = "ban"
LLR-democratical Rich has been having several really uncomfortable and bad days now. He has been left adrift by his masters running the Kamala-la-la-la-la campaign and now Rich has no idea what to post to help Team New Soviet Democratical.
BTW Rich, do you recall how you laughed and laughed at Musk's threatened lawsuit against GARM from just 2 days ago?
Well, Business Insider has a bit of news...
"The Global Alliance for Responsible Media is 'discontinuing' after Elon Musk's X filed an antitrust lawsuit against it"
The World Federation of Advertisers is 'discontinuing' the activities of the Global Alliance for Responsible Media.
The decision follows an antitrust lawsuit filed by Elon Musk's X against the organization.
WFA said it plans to contest the allegations in court, and said it is confident in its compliance."
Yeah, they are very "confident" alright...
Abacus Boy Rich is really going to have to dig deep into his pretend mindreader world for "new" "content" (wink wink) , along with Angry Elf VA Lawyer Mark who still pines away for DeSantis and is all in on the lawfare.
No. You're free to say all the stupid stuff you want. We're free to call you on it. See how that works.
You are presenting facts. Leftists don't care about facts, they campaign on feelings.
If you eleminated the man they wouldn't need a pill.
This. There is a way to get abortion federally banned or federally allowed right up the moment the baby is crowning, and that is to make it an amendment.
There's a process. Fucking use it. Oh...the national willpower isn't there to take on the 2nd amendment and a federal abortion amendment? Well. I guess that tells you everything you need to know about what most people really want doesn't it. The law provides an avenue, and end-running this shit around the constitution like some Caribbean 'Republic' isn't just unethical, it is illegal.
Trump would have nothing to do with it. Neither would Harris if she was elected. Harris is falsely calling individual states enacting abortion regulations a federal issue.
Somebody needs to rewatch the "Schoolhouse Rock" episodes on the Constitution. Hopefully not above her intelligence level.
This implies that if Kamala were elected she could eliminate all nationwide abortion restrictions with a stroke of the pen, right?
I'm having trouble following the two assertions here.
One, that you have followed the Trump campaign every day and, two, that you are unclear ("I think he's been saying") on his position on leaving abortion to the states versus making it a federal issue.
Item one is definitely true and makes it hard to see the reason for your lack of clarity on item two.
It doesn't just imply it, it's what they believe she could do through an executive order, congress be damned. And who cares about SCOTUS because such a challenge would take years to get there.
They actually think that's legal. I'd like to see them go to the states and enforce it. Hope they bring those vaunted F-16s we've heard so much about.
Did she talk about ANYTHING else?
"On abortion, Trump's true position is...."
LOL
Uh, no. Thanks for playing.
But... but... the abortion numbers are up. Nearly 16,000 more per month since Rowe was overturned. If baby killing is what Dems want, they should be praising the Court and Trump.
I told you that Trump doesn't give a shit about abortion. He just said that killing babies isn't an issue anymore and then said (without saying) that he's going to vote pro-abortion on the Florida ballot question.
Yes. Well said.
Democrats have fought the Republican attempt to make contraceptives available with out prescription. Planned Parenthood carries on Sanger's eugenics. Got to keep them happy.
Lefty Mark is mind reading again.
Its not Dumb Lefty Mark. Its Virginia Lawyer Mark, DeSantis supporter....but ever since DeSantis collapsed after spending $250M and not winning a single county in Iowa, a subset of the DeSantis supporters went all the way around the bend and are basically just a bunch of lawfare lefties now. VA Lawyer Mark is one of those.
Is that the abortion ban at 24 weeks? Which you are calling pro-abortion?
Clearly an abortion ban can not happen by executive order. But hypothetically, if Republicans somehow had super majorities and controlled both the House and the Senate, and passed an abortion ban without exceptions, they could send that bill up to the president to be signed. If that president wanted to ban all abortions nationally it could happen. Of course it's ludicrous to think it possible at the present time and laws could always be changed back.
If Kamala explained these details (to people with more than 3 second attention spans) no one would actually be terrified of this total ban ever happening, regardless if they believe Trump is lying about wanting abortion to remain a states' issue.
I think the left wants a national law guaranteeing abortion but that's not realistic either for the same reasons because there is too much disagreement on abortion as an unlimited "right."
If Republicans were smart, they would offer a nationwide, no-questions asked policy offering free sterilization (tubals and vasectomies). All fertile women that simply can't deal with birth control or oral sex can line up to have their tubes removed. All men that don't want kids can get snipped for free. This would then (hopefully) leave us with the people that want to have children, whether planned or not.
“ If that president wanted to ban all abortions nationally it could happen.”
Nope. Dodd precludes this possibility as it reserves this right to the individual states.
See what I mean? If a nice lady like Rosalyn can be so misinformed …
See what I mean.
Rosalyn: I’m curious. Who’s been lying to you about this? Those people are the villains.
You are right. There would have to be another improbable step: the SCOTUS would have to reverse their decision on Dodd. PS I'm not at all agreeing with Harris on this threat to ban all abortions. I'm saying it's so improbable it's impossible.
I must've missed the time Trump signed a national abortion ban during his first term. Anybody got a link?
Democrats want their voters fat and stupid.
Harris is a law school grad, but seems ignorant of constitutional law matters.
Walz is supposedly a former history teacher, but also seems woefully ignorant of constitutional law.
In fact, both advocate extinguishing several constitutional amendments inconvenient to their woke agenda.
Who would think an aging TV reality star would be the last big hope for preserving the constitutional rights of all Americans, and the separation of powers between Feds and states, between Supreme Court and executive office.
Democrats want their voters fat and stupid.
Harris is a law school grad, but seems ignorant of constitutional law matters.
Walz is supposedly a former history teacher, but also seems woefully ignorant of constitutional law.
In fact, both advocate extinguishing several constitutional amendments inconvenient to their woke agenda.
Who would think an aging TV reality star would be the last big hope for preserving the constitutional rights of all Americans, and the separation of powers between Feds and states, between Supreme Court and executive office.
Addressing Rabel's comment at 1:11:
Following NYT and WaPo's coverage would give that impression.
Is the Vice President allowed to give a campaign speech while displaying the seal of the office?
we are to believe that such law will survive challenge in SC that just opened the issue up to the States? [and wash hands]
Why do women not see the moral dilemma in taking the life of an unborn baby? Protecting the innocence of children is a paramount Tenet of American culture, but unborn babies are not given the same grace.
Why are the Democrats certain that Republicans will try to make a federal law on abortion? It's very simple: That's what they plan on doing and therefore assume that's what the Republicans will do. What will their plan look like: It won't be called "no limits" but will be written such that any woman who wants a late 3rd term abortion will get a taxpayer funded abortion.
My position on abortion has not changed. I think it is awful and I wish abortions would cease. But I believe it is a state issue and should be left to the several states to legislate on. Just like murder, or theft, or any of the other areas the Feds have no authority over. I think Trump feels the same way. I do not agree with him on everything, but everything he has ever said, and the judges he has appointed, make me believe he is going to leave it to the states.
"the threat is very real"
No it isn't. Not even remotely.
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- Orwell 1984
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