November 16, 2020

"Why Are So Many Latinos Obsessed With Demonizing Black Lives Matter? It's Complicated."

This is an article from October 5th — at WLRN (the Miami NPR affiliate) — that begins "Joe Biden is expected to win the Latino vote big. But not so big in Florida." With hindsight, we know that the big Latino vote win did not happen. There was, in fact, puzzling drop in Latino voter support for Democrats. Let's mine this article for some clues about why that happened. Remember, this is public radio:
Many Latinos who back President Trump bring the racial — and racist — complexities of Latin America to their attacks on the racial justice movement.... 
[T]his summer many Latinos started to loudly express contempt for — and falsehoods about — the Black Lives Matter (BLM) racial justice movement. For months, Latinos for Trump rallies — like one in Miami Lakes where an organizer shouted BLM “wants to tear down the Biblical definition of family!” — have been trumpeting bogus claims about the movement being anti-American. 
And then there are the really racist diatribes on Spanish-language media — like one disgorged recently by conservative Miami radio host Carines Moncada, a Venezuelan expat. On her show on WURN Actualidad Radio — a mainstream Spanish-language outlet –—Moncada told listeners, “Black Life Matters practices lo negro — witchcraft and devil worship — and wants to burn down your property and kill police officers.” She then added that a vote for Biden “supports that rape and anarchy.” 
Moncada did not respond to WLRN’s request for comment. But her demonizing rant against Black Lives Matter is not uncommon in South Florida — although it often has more to do with socialism than Satan. Like, for example, when Republican congressional candidate Maria Elvira Salazar tears into BLM. Salazar, a Cuban-American, is a former TV journalist challenging Democratic Miami Congresswoman Donna Shalala.

 Of course, we know now that Maria Elvira Salazar beat Donna Shalala.

[Salazar] regularly and falsely claims that Black Lives Matter controls Biden and the Democrats — and has turned them into “radical far-left socialists” like those in Cuba or Venezuela. Salazar’s so-called “evidence” is that a BLM co-founder once had her picture taken with Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro in New York. But she insists that’s sufficient “prueba,” or proof....
“Miami has been the place where I’ve been made most aware of being Black — by fellow Latinos,” says Danielle Clealand, a Black Latina who says she’s found many White Latinos in Miami will not speak Spanish with her because they don’t accept her, “as one of them.” Clealand now teaches Latino Studies at the University of Texas at Austin, but until this fall she taught at FIU in Miami-Dade for almost a decade. Clealand is a Black Puerto Rican, but her research — including an upcoming oral history — focuses on the Black Cuban experience in Miami and the U.S. 
She says the Latino attacks on Black Lives Matter don’t surprise her — because while racism runs deep in Latin America, Black activism is all too often an unsettling shock for many Latin American expats here. More, even, than for many racist White Americans. 
“Racism is hidden in Latin America to maintain the status quo,” says Clealand. “And so when you come here and you see, particularly now, Black activism in the streets, people cannot hide from it anymore. When you are confronted with this it creates a negative and racist reaction.” 
Clealand also notes that because Latino groups in Miami experienced discrimination themselves when they first arrived here, they believe that gives them a pass from being accused of anti-Black racism. “It emboldens them to think they could never be racist,” Clealand says. “The denialism is huge.” 
Another FIU scholar, Michael Bustamante, says it’s also “a deflection to label Black Lives Matter Marxist, communist.” Bustamante, a Cuban-American history professor, says branding Black activism as “communist” is how many Latino expats avoid having to acknowledge the similarities between their struggles in Latin America and Black Americans’ struggles here.... 
“A lot of the people who were galvanized by the Bolivarian Revolution in Venezuela were darker-skinned, poorer folks,” says Venezuelan expat political analyst Maurizio Passariello.... 
ADDED: Here's an NBC article from last June that explores the same theme: "Latinos must confront 'ingrained' anti-black racism amid George Floyd protests, some urge/White-presenting Latinos should use this time to reconcile with their privilege and acknowledge that black people are already part of their community, said a young Afro-Latinx."  Excerpt:
Jasmine Haywood, an Afro-Latina who has researched anti-black Latino racism, told NBC News.... "What Latinos need to realize is that our oppression is bound up and intertwined with the oppression of the black community... Until they are liberated, until they are free from injustices and oppression, we will never be liberated." Haywood said anti-blackness sentiments are "ingrained in our cultures"...

While Latinos largely acknowledge their ethnicity and African roots — dating to Latin America's colonial period, when mixing occurred among indigenous people, white Europeans, slaves from Africa and Asians — many still struggle to consider themselves as black. 

In Pew's survey, 39 percent of Afro-Latinos identified as white, while only 18 percent identified as black; even more Afro-Latinos (24 percent) said their race was "Hispanic" — which is an ethnicity, not a race....

Julio Ricardo Varela, founder of Futuro Media's Latino Rebels and a white-presenting Latino himself, thinks it is crucial that Latinos recognize racism in their histories, not just as a U.S. issue. "White-passing Latinos really need to come to terms with their privilege in the context of anti-blackness," whether they were born in the U.S., Latin America or the Caribbean, and they "need to just accept the reality that we also come from a racist society that is embedded in white supremacy," Varela said....

83 comments:

rehajm said...

First off: stop with the belief 'Latinos' are a homogenous, autonomous leftie voting block...

narciso said...

A white terrorist runs the thousand currents scam, that blm fronts

Quayle said...

Why won’t our constituents stay in the box we put them in, so we can win the vote and abolish al boxes? What’s wrong with these people?

Todd said...

"Why Are So Many Latinos Obsessed With Demonizing Black Lives Matter? It's Complicated."

Not really. Most folks that don't have a vested interest in portraying BLM as cross between a church choir and a team of firemen saving kittens from apartment fires, can see [with their lying eyes] that BLM are a racist gang of thugs at best and a terrorist organization at worst.

Michael said...

Can't find it in Way back, but I'd bet the original article used the term Latinx then was stealth edited after the election when NPR realized how much Latinos hate that moniker

Michael said...

Can't find it in Way back, but I'd bet the original article used the term Latinx then was stealth edited after the election when NPR realized how much Latinos hate that moniker

Joe Smith said...

Maybe the most biased paragraph I've ever read.

NPR needs to be defunded. If not, Trump should fire everyone (every. single. person.) and start over.

What drivel.

And yes, BLM® is racist, Marxist garbage that aims to replace the family with the state, and throw out God in the process...

Known Unknown said...

Someone wanted a race war but they're going to get the one they didn't expect ...

Achilles said...

The people in charge of the Democrats know what is going to happen.

The idiots like Howard and readering are going to be constantly expanding lawlessness.

BLM is just leading the way.

If Biden actually does forgive 50k in student loans by executive order then the entire debt system will collapse when people just ignore their debts expecting a future executive order on mortgages.

carrie said...

The BLM Movement is trying to shove its agenda regarding the family under the rug and has modified its website to tone it down.

Here's what the BLM Global Network said about the family on its webiste as recently as September of 2020:

Four years ago, what is now known as the Black Lives Matter Global Network began to organize. It started out as a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission was to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.

In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic, and political power to thrive.

... [I had to cut it to get the word count down to post it]

The Black Lives Matter Global Network is as powerful as it is because of our membership, our partners, our supporters, our staff, and you. Our continued commitment to liberation for all Black people means we are continuing the work of our ancestors and fighting for our collective freedom because it is our duty.

Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.

We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.

We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.

We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.

We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a prerequisite for wanting the same for others.

We see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black people who exist in different parts of the world.

We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.

We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.

We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.

We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.

We practice empathy. We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.

We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).

We cultivate an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, show up with the capacity to lead and learn.

We embody and practice justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.

wendybar said...

Because the REAL BLM Movement is violent and hateful??? Don't let the Propaganda fool you.

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

How can it be a "deflection" to hold BLM to be Marxist when BLM itself has claimed to be Marxist? And the "Bolivarian revolution" in Venezuela isn't so nifty for the poor and darker-skinned any more, is it? Chavez and Maduro were/are themselves light-skinned, and the only people still eating decently in Venezuela are the military and the extremely rich. I understand that former Venezuelan professionals have occasionally relearned sewing, to take in the seams of other people's garments when they have lost too much weight due to malnutrition to wear them properly any more.

As for the "Biblical family" bit, that is doubtless about a BLM document that, among other things, declared war on the "nuclear family" as "white," advocating a return to extended kin networks of the "it takes a village" sort. I believe they have now officially withdrawn this, but it was out there for a time. And they aren't the only ones pushing it, either.

Ken B said...

“Cuz they are raaaaaaaacist!” Naturally.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Why is this article written by a white guy named Tim Padgett? I don't see anything in his bio that leads me to believe that he's Latino.

It's getting a bit tiring (not to mention ironic and ludicrous) that those who constantly shake their fingers at us about racism are themselves the epitome of white saviors.

iowan2 said...

Clealand also notes that because Latino groups in Miami experienced discrimination themselves when they first arrived here, they believe that gives them a pass from being accused of anti-Black racism. “It emboldens them to think they could never be racist,” Clealand says. “The denialism is huge.”

Since I lack an Ivy league diploma, no contact with coastal elites, precious little exposure to critical race theory, this is where I get crossed up. I have read fact sheets from those mentioned above, and told that only those with power can possibly be racist. since minorities have no power, no matter what they express or do. Immigrants from Cuba lack power, hence cant be racist. Right?

I'll hang up and listen.


Freeman Hunt said...

"Can't find it in Way back, but I'd bet the original article used the term Latinx then was stealth edited after the election when NPR realized how much Latinos hate that moniker"

If I have a pet peeve, it's that horrible, white, woker-than-thou bullshit word. I stop reading when someone uses it. Nails on a chalkboard.

rcocean said...

Yes, you can be sure if anyone criticizes any black person or any black group the only reason is racism.

rcocean said...

Any news article by Left/liberal rich white people about Racism should be laughed at.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

This is off topic, but related since it involves NPR. I just heard them go to Barak Obama for a quote about the current political situation. That's the fourth of fifth time they've done that today. Why aren't they going to Biden or Harris for quotes?


(That question is rhetorical, I know the answer, I just think it needs to be asked.)

5M said...

Lawyers as a stereotype are a cynical lot aren't they? As a plaintiff or defendant and you mention money then grift comes to their mind? The paradigm of lawyers has a hard time rising to the notion that Trump might, just might not be in this for money. And they wouldn't be able to figure out why he was in this. Inconceivable.

He is in it for jobs.
And he is in it for his name. That order.

You want to steal that away from the country? A judge wants to base their legacy and precedents on anti jobs? With the pandemic it seems like that may be a short sighted "yes".

Bob Boyd said...

Hillary is going to need a bigger basket.

Patrick Henry said...

Another FIU scholar, Michael Bustamante, says it’s also “a deflection to label Black Lives Matter Marxist, communist.” Bustamante, a Cuban-American history professor, says branding Black activism as “communist” is how many Latino expats avoid having to acknowledge the similarities between their struggles in Latin America and Black Americans’ struggles here....

Ummmm... maybe it's because the "official" BLM site actually did state Marxist positions. One of their founders also stated they were "trained as Marxists". BLM pushes Critical Race Theory, which is Marxian.

Maybe Bustamante doesn't like being correctly identified as Marxist because it reduces support?

J. Farmer said...

"Why Are So Many Latinos Obsessed With Demonizing Black Lives Matter? It's Complicated."

Only if you buy into that absurd "people of color" taxonomy. It is an attempt to group very disparate peoples into a category of non-white, with the idea that a common experience of racism and bigotry would unite them in an effort to stop "white supremacy." Unfortunately, people of color have a bad habit of noticing what white people notice: that there's a tremendous amount of disorder in the black community. If we were to have a racial binary in our country, black vs non-black would be much more cohesive than white vs non-white.

Churchy LaFemme: said...

I know there's a big wish list, and only four years to apply presure to a bureaucracy that doesn't want to do things, but I would put defunding the CPB just below "having toliets & showers that work again". NPR has become that bad.

Karen of Texas said...

"...BLM “wants to tear down the Biblical definition of family!” — have been trumpeting bogus claims about the movement being anti-American."

Well if the first part about tearing down the Biblical definition  of family is true - it is- then...

And I suspect that the differing positions on abortion may have something to do with the conflict. I note they steered away from that hot button topic.

This has been a thing for years - black verses Spanish speaking brown verses white. Seriously. I mean, did these people just wake up this year?

Why, it's as if this conflict is new.

Full disclosure - my husband is a 3rd generation English/Spanish speaking "Hispanic" with ancestry ties to Mexico, Native Americans, and Spain. Several of his in laws are/were Black or "racially mixed" Black. He will tell you when he was growing up in the 60s that there were contentious issues between the Black and Brown citizens in his small west Texas town. His take is that Blacks were resentful of "Hispanics" taking their jobs.

n.n said...

Some, Select Black Lives Matter founded on false premises is an incorporated sect of the Progressive Church. Neighborhood incursions is a legacy of the Democrat-affiliated KKK and subsequent diversity activism. Diversity, not limited to racism, breeds adversity. Stop the color judgments.

#BabyLivesMatter #Principals... PrinciplesMatter

Assistant Village Idiot said...

Well, they have burned down property and killed police officers. To say that they don't all do that is a dodge. Not all Nazis killed Jews in WWII either, it doesn't mean the organisation wasn't essentially antisemitic. Once the evil starts, the decent people get out.

What we have again is words being used instrumentally rather than according to their meanings. To protest that they are misusing words misses the point. The don't care. They use whatever words they think will get them what they want, like an inmate who keeps searching for the compliment or insult that works on you. He doesn't mean any of it, he just wants you to get him what he wants.

Richard Fagin said...

For those of us that have actually lived among, with or proximate to Latinos, their demonizing Black Lives Matter is no surprise at all. Contrary to the article's assertion, Latino antagonism toward blacks isn't just a Florida thing; it's widespread in Texas as well. For all you "people of color" virtue-signalers out there, white people, Christian males in particular, aren't the only bigots on the planet. You will find that out to your great horror when the Chinese take over the world.

gilbar said...

have been trumpeting bogus claims about the movement being anti-American.

serious question: In WHAT WAY, is BLM NOT being anti-American?

This Person said...

All based on the debunked claim that blacks are being disproportionately killed by police.

Joe Smith said...

"His take is that Blacks were resentful of "Hispanics" taking their jobs."

Which they are, in droves. And also pushing down wages for entry-level jobs.

My theory is that blacks have a 'we've been here forever' attitude, and see Hispanics (esp. Mexicans) as interlopers, ignorant of the history of the Southwest.

The problem is, blacks don't seem to have the work ethic of Hispanics/Mexicans, and are literally having their lunch eaten...

Dust Bunny Queen said...

As already stated....Latino is too broad of a term. To assume that all people from who speak Spanish or come from Latin countries are the same is to assume wrongly.

However, from my own experience........ (growing up in California surrounded by Mexicans and ethnic groups of all kinds, having family that lived in Mexico as legal residents for 30 year, relatives by marriage from Mexico, Argentina, being friends and colleges with the many Mexican immigrants in our local area)..... most "Hispanics" are hardworking, family orientated, religious, conservative types and who have come from or have relatives who have come from Socialist and corrupt countries. They want freedom, law and order and morality.

They know how bad it is in a corrupt country. They don't like the illegals and gangs who are flooding into their neighborhoods and who are taking away their very jobs. They don't like BLM who are rioting and destroying their neighborhoods. They also don't like the poor me victim hood attitude that BLM promotes.

Everything the Democrats stand for is anathema to them. They LEFT those circumstances and don't want to see it again.

It is no surprise that "hispanics" voted for Trump.

Roger Sweeny said...

Clealand also notes that because Latino groups in Miami experienced discrimination themselves when they first arrived here, they believe that gives them a pass from being accused of anti-Black racism.

No, but it makes many of them think, "If I could succeed, why can't they? Why am I supposed to privilege their problems?" One of Steve Sailer's many heterodox theories is that non-black minorities feel that blacks want to be the number one minority, the one whose concerns matter more than any other's. They don't like that. They also don't like what many see as blacks expecting all non-whites to look up to blacks for leadership.

This goes along with his theory that many non-black non-whites will vote Republican if they see the Democrats as "the black people's party" (the way many blacks see Republicans as "the white people's party").

Kathryn51 said...

Due to a family connection, I have a fairly large contingent of Hispanic (Mexican immigrant) FB friends.

The big tell to me? I noticed last June that while my liberal white suburban mom friends were jumping on the Black Lives Matter train, my Hispanic friends were silent. As in Dead Silent.

They hated Trump in 2016. Silent about the election this year. I'm pretty sure some of the men (the ones that are legal, lol) voted for Trump this year.

readering said...

Also GOP in House and state races may have benefitted from Gerrymandering. Fewer votes at level of entire state yielded more seats at levels below.

zipity said...



Gee, I wonder if this has anything to do with Latinos thinking BLM wants to destroy the nuclear family? They scrubbed it from their website. It's not that they don't believe it, they just don't want YOU to know that is their goal.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/

Black Lives Matter scrubbed a page on its website this week that disparaged the “Western-prescribed nuclear family structure,” prompting a former NFL lineman to blast critics who accused him of previously misinterpreting the organization’s incendiary message.

The group, whose co-founder Patrisse Cullors has described herself and fellow co-founder Alicia Garza as “trained Marxists,” removed a page titled “What We Believe” that included its public policy positions as well as describing itself as part of the “global Black family” — a change first reported Monday by the Washington Examiner.

Unknown said...

I would love to see the democrats beholden to Burn Loot Murder start accusing Hispanics of racism. That would be delicious.

Leland said...

Why can't it be simple? Just like people demonize La Raza, because it denotes singling out a race as more special than others. People demonize BLM, because it denotes singling out a race as more special than others. People have been demonizing white supremacy for decades, and few ask why.

Michael K said...

Richard Fagin said... [hush]​[hide comment]
For those of us that have actually lived among, with or proximate to Latinos, their demonizing Black Lives Matter is no surprise at all. Contrary to the article's assertion, Latino antagonism toward blacks isn't just a Florida thing; it's widespread in Texas as well


I remember it well in 1960s Los Angeles. Nat King Cole made a Spanish language album. They could not give them away.

MadTownGuy said...

From the quoted article:

"Another FIU scholar, Michael Bustamante, says it’s also “a deflection to label Black Lives Matter Marxist, communist.

"Deflection" is a favorite word with Woke Folk. It's the out for situations where their hypocrisy has been exposed.

I'm Not Sure said...

"Contrary to the article's assertion, Latino antagonism toward blacks isn't just a Florida thing; it's widespread in Texas as well."

You can include locations to the west of Texas and you'd still be right.

n.n said...

I wonder how they were affected by the treatment of the "White Hispanic". Diversity has consequences.

White... Brown Lives Matter #BabyLivesMatter

Sigivald said...

Ain't the Official BLM Group on-board with every generic not-black-related-particularly Woke thing, these days?

And thus "against the biblical definition of marriage", because gay marriage?

(Likewise, BLM is not Officially Black Magic/Witchcraft, but ... I recall seeing lots of FB posts about "Witches Supporting BLM".

All it takes is seeing those and taking people at their word to say it's "black magic and witchcraft".

It's ... interesting, of course, how the Right is "all Nazis and fascists because some guys on the fringe said they're totally on-team", but people on the Left somehow never get ANY taint of any sort from ANY of their supporters?

One might suspect that different rulesets get applied.

Of course, my position is that both those claims are BS, but I'm being consistent...)

Howard said...

J Farmer makes the key observation. You could also say homo sapiens versus homo sapien-neanderthal hybrids.

n.n said...

Woke and drowsy.

Howard said...

n.n is correct. The Democrat major malfunction is somnambulism.

Anon said...

"[T]his summer many Latinos started to loudly express contempt for — and falsehoods about — the Black Lives Matter (BLM) racial justice movement."

Starting your critique with a falsehood about falsehood will only intensify the contempt.

Keep it up, progs.

PM said...

In LA, Latinos IN GENERAL don't like blacks - and vice versa. For decades.

chuck said...

Cuba is a poster child for white supremacy, strange that it is still popular on the left.

Gordon Scott said...

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...
I just heard them go to Barak Obama for a quote about the current political situation. That's the fourth of fifth time they've done that today. Why aren't they going to Biden or Harris for quotes?

It was rhetorical, I know. But it's because Biden is incoherent unless he gets some Adderall, and Harris leaves the audience cringing with her cackle and her insincerity.

bleh said...

"trumpeting bogus claims about the movement being anti-American"

"Bogus"? Much like how journalists routinely insert "without evidence" or "falsely" when reporting on what a Republican says, I suppose. I don't know where journalists got the impression that they get to declare for the rest of us what is true or false about political opinions and rhetoric. Whenever I see such words in a news article, I automatically assume the reporter is being a smug asshole who's worried about reporting something that might undermine his or her preferred political narrative.

I want to know how this belief about anti-Americanism in the BLM movement is "bogus." The reporter's attempt at minimizing the issue is so glaring and suspicious that it makes me want to look deeper into the issue. Because of this attempt at suppression, I'm now primed to believe BLM is anti-American.

chuck said...

You can include locations to the west of Texas and you'd still be right.

Also Utah. The worst racism I've seen lately has been expressed by Mexican immigrants.

I'm Not Sure said...

"the Black Lives Matter (BLM) racial justice movement."

"Racial justice movement"? Ok- let's call it that. The vandalizing and looting were just perks, I guess?

Chennaul said...

Many Latinos who back President Trump bring the racial — and racist — complexities of Latin America to their attacks on the racial justice movement....

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It’s probably another “ism” —communism and people recognize the tactics—but sure go with the victimization and racism. Please call everyone that does not like BLM racists. Pretty soon you are going to run out of “white -guilt” complex.

Voters in Florida are not alone in despising BLM, most small business owners, and people who see what they are doing on other outlets besides the mainstream media—are right there with them.

Jupiter said...

'Moncada told listeners, “Black Life Matters practices lo negro — witchcraft and devil worship — and wants to burn down your property and kill police officers.” She then added that a vote for Biden “supports that rape and anarchy.” '

TRUTH BE TOLD

Chennaul said...

Of course, my position is that both those claims are BS, but I'm being consistent...)

....................

BLM was featured front and center at the DNC convention for Biden, it was disgusting.

Jim at said...

have been trumpeting bogus claims about the movement being anti-American.

Bogus claims? They admit it up front. It was in their freakin' mission statement before they scrubbed it from their website after people pointed it out.

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

Black Lives Matter*

* But only when they advance our agenda of Marxism.

Black criminal killed by a cop of any race/color - We use this as an excuse to riot.

Black citizen killed by black criminal - Nothing to see here. Move along.

Black person killed by non-black person - An excuse to riot.

Black business burned down by our rioters - Can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.

Robt C said...

As said above, it's not just Florida, or Texas. Growing up in SoCal in the '50s and '60 I saw a lot of brown-black antagonism. Then in the '80s and '90s, as historically-black Watts, Willowbrook and Compton began being taken over by hispanics, the blacks got very upset and there were problems. It was a very uneasy transition marked with lots of resentment and not a little violence.

Belasarion said...

So, nowhere in that screed could they find the space to mention that BLM was founded by Marxists? Because a whole bunch of Latinos aren't down with Communism. They also don't suffer from American style "White Guilt." Unless you are a liberal you can't just hate anybody you like. You have to have a pass. Its not ok for Latinos to dislike BLM according to white liberals.

Known Unknown said...

"Also GOP in House and state races may have benefitted from Gerrymandering. Fewer votes at level of entire state yielded more seats at levels below."

Yes, of course, it's fucking gerrymandering. A convenient devil to trot out when you need something.

n.n said...

Only Latinos? What about Latinas? What about others from Central and South America not affiliated with the Roman Catholic Church?

n.n said...

Black citizen killed by black criminal - Nothing to see here. Move along.

The Hutu/Tutsi mode of human and civil rights. Also, the post-apartheid Progressive South African model. Then there's Zimbabwe, etc. That said, diversity of individuals, minority of one. #Principals... PrinciplesMatter Anything else is ripe for bigotry and progress (i.e. unqualified monotonic change).

MartyB said...

Note the assertions of opinion as fact - media dishonesty at its worst:

"have been trumpeting bogus claims about the movement being anti-American."

"[Salazar] regularly and falsely claims that Black Lives Matter controls Biden and the Democrats — and has turned them into “radical far-left socialists”"

The writer calls the claims "bogus" and "false". Maybe they are supported (or not) by facts, but to label them as such without evidence is just the reporter's opinion.

Kathryn51 said...

So, we are all pretty much saying the same thing. Which means that it's pretty damn clear that all of us "hicks" understand precisely the wide swath and variety of Hispanic/latino citizenry of our country and our ivory tower "experts" do not.

Well, except for Project 1619 Lady Expert who recently tweeted: "One day after this election is over, I am going to write a piece about how Latino is a contrived ethnic category that artificially lumps white Cubans with Black Puerto Ricans and Indigenous Guatemalans and helps explains why Latinos support Trump at the second highest rate."

I wonder where Latinos with Mexican heritage (much larger than PR or Guatemalans within the USA) fit into her racist analysis.

JaimeRoberto said...

So many untruths in this article.

BLM does want to do away with the nuclear family.

The founders admit to being Marxists.

Their protest have lead to destruction and murder.

They may not control the Dems, but they are on the same side.

Rick said...

It's amazing how many people insist BLM cannot be anything other than what they want it to be. But this is a privilege offered only to left wing groups.

Q: What were these people doing when the Tea Party were called terrorists and the Taliban?

A: Calling the Tea Party terrorists and the Taliban!

Lurker21 said...

NPR: Your tax dollars at work?

Rick said...

Kathryn51 said...
Well, except for Project 1619 Lady Expert who recently tweeted: "One day after this election is over, I am going to write a piece about how Latino is a contrived ethnic category that artificially lumps white Cubans with Black Puerto Ricans and Indigenous Guatemalans and helps explains why Latinos support Trump at the second highest rate."


No doubt it will have the same relationship with reality the 1619 Project has.

Louie the Looper said...

“In Pew's survey, 39 percent of Afro-Latinos identified as white...”

I wonder how Pew’s researchers determined these people were lying about being white and were really Afro-Latinos?

Richard Aubrey said...

Some Irish, I am told, think of their cultural heritage in terms of the High Kings--not the singing group--instead of the starving potato farmer.
Those in Central America may look back to their ancestors and the Mayan pyramids and the culture necessary to produce such monuments. Not to abuelo scrabblng for coffee beans which he might have missed the first time, in order to feed his family.
Not that there isn't inhuman courage and self-sacrifice in the second cases.

To be treated as incompetent--without democrats' guidance--ne'er do wells may well be galling. Especially to those whose grip on the bootstraps is paying off.

Rick said...

readering said...
Also GOP in House and state races may have benefitted from Gerrymandering.


Democrats benefitted from gerrymandering for 200 years without a complaint. The second Reps used it they began claiming it's a threat to the Republic.

Typical.

Rick said...

[Salazar] regularly and falsely claims that Black Lives Matter controls Biden and the Democrats — and has turned them into “radical far-left socialists”

I doubt this is true. The claim is generally that BLM beliefs are mainstream among Dems (is there any question about this>) and thus are a reflection of what Dems really believe. Consider how the writer changed the accusation -perhaps in his own mind - to ensure it could be asserted false.

The Prime Directive is to Protect the Blue Shield.

n.n said...

Latinos and Latinas are Roman Catholic. All Lives Matter.

narciso said...

padgett went from time to npr, that's not a promotion, I don't think,

the test case was sanford, where the community relations board worked with ben crump and julian public relations to frame zimmerman, with the times, nbc, atlantic et al all coordinating,

Nancy Reyes said...

Which Latinos are you talking about?
the article points a lot of things out but misses the elephant in the room: Behavior.
My Colombian born son became "racist" when he joined the Job Corps and found the black kids smoked pot, didn't do their job, picked on the Hispanics and whites, and never got punished.
BLM is increasing racism in the hearts of many outside the upper class elites...

Freeman Hunt said...

Contrary to the worldview of woke whites, the world is not all about them and not split into white versus not white.

Birkel said...

Puzzling?
Not so much.

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Gordon Scott,

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...
I just heard them go to Barak Obama for a quote about the current political situation. That's the fourth of fifth time they've done that today. Why aren't they going to Biden or Harris for quotes?

It was rhetorical, I know. But it's because Biden is incoherent unless he gets some Adderall, and Harris leaves the audience cringing with her cackle and her insincerity.


Oh, it's much simpler than that. Obama has a new book out, and the many interviews are calculated to increase sales. Biden and Harris are both between books :-)

DeepRunner said...

The Pinot-sipping, Chardonnay-charlatan white folks at a Miami public radio station said...

"'Why Are So Many Latinos Obsessed With Demonizing Black Lives Matter? It's Complicated.
This is an article from October 5th — at WLRN (the Miami NPR affiliate) — that begins 'Joe Biden is expected to win the Latino vote big. But not so big in Florida.'
"

So, Viva La Raza, NPR...unless they don't march in lockstep with what passes for racial justice and "equality". Amazing that Egghead Radio doesn't consider things from the Latino perspective. Or for that matter, from any viewpoint that is not Black. Racism is colorblind. It ain't only white folks who are...hmmm...what would our betters say?...bigots.

Sam L. said...

Why should I even CONSIDER trusting anything on NPR? They laid a nuclear strike on what little trust I ever had. NPR Delenda Est!!

pdug said...

I mean, the BLM org DOES want to end "the biblical definiton of the family" since they're an LGBT org.

And I bet they have more Voudoun practitioners than Roman Catholics and Baptists.

RichardJohnson said...

It isn't difficult to figure out why Florida Cubans don't like BLM. Black Lives Matter Founder an Open Supporter of Socialist Venezuelan Dictator Maduro.

“There is an overwhelming sense of loss, complicated by fear and anxiety. Although no leader is without their flaws, we must push back against the rhetoric of the right and come to the defense of El Comandante,” a eulogy by the official “Black Lives Matter” organization read.
After some thoughts on revolution, the piece ends: “As Fidel ascends to the realm of the ancestors, we summon his guidance, strength, and power as we recommit ourselves to the struggle for universal freedom. Fidel Vive!”


The friend of my enemy is my enemy, and a BLM website published a rather flattering eulogy of Fidel Castro.