So which misspelling of "DISTRICT" in the caption do we prefer? https://t.co/0sZxxjnrXa pic.twitter.com/feeRhnEvmF
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November 26, 2020
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Serious analysis by Ann.
Very serious.
You can plug your ears and scream lalala all you want Ann. Have fun with your low trust society.
This is how they make sure people find out about the complaint the press is certain to ignore.
Press is busy gushing over the Kamala Joe Cabinet
I prefer "districct" because it suggests the court is a thicc boi.
Happy Thanksgiving to Meadhouse and all here. Cheers.
This is how they make sure people find out about the complaint the press is certain to ignore.
That's a bingo...
At least the excuse Ann found to ignore another court filing actually acknowledged there was a court filing.
A majority of Americans think the election was stolen.
Deal with it.
Lem said...
“This is how they make sure people find out about the complaint the press is certain to ignore. “
This pattern is interesting Isn’t it.
I thought Conway was going to stop tweeting to help his daughter's mental well-being.
I guess his hot takes are more important than his daughter.
...well, assuming it is HIS daughter. I cannot fathom a woman allowing him to touch her.
What kind of fool demands that a Kraken on Steroids know how to spell properly?
Or employ autocorrect when writing legal briefs?
I can only listen to one complaint at a time. Either tell me that the lawyers need to do a good careful job. Or tell me that they have to do everything in an incredible hurry because once __ happens it will be too late!!!
Brown M&M's? Is this how you get noticed? Strange.
Just like the s in Psalms, the second c in districct is silent. That was easy.
It’s like click bait. If places like Vox decide to make fun of it, they need more than just one typo. Inadvertently they end up reading it. Multiply that over the rest of them Internet publications and you have some kind of accomplishment.... Considering the likelihood appellate courts may also ignore the substance of the pleadings contained in the complaint.
Spelling is racist.
"I thought Conway was going to stop tweeting to help his daughter's mental well-being.”
We sacrificed a queen for a pawn, and as a never Trumper, the pawn is of course a dishonest pig.
If I had to guess - that screen shot is fake. but - who knows? the left are deceptive liars in most cases.
None of this can be corrected in the recount or pretend audit
Earlier this year (presumably in response to the Wuhan virus) Raffensberger illegally entered into a settlement agreement with various Georgia Democrat organizations by which he agreed to ignore the state's strong, specific statutory voting safeguards for absentee ballots. This opened the door to massive fraud, as well as violating recount safeguards. (Justice Kavanaugh's warning to federal courts not to alter with election statutes clearly applies to Raffensperger as well.)
With Raffensberger's guidance, election officials and poll workers refused to observe statutory safeguards. Among other things, numerous eyewitnesses testified that they didn't verify signatures, check security envelopes, or allow challengers to observe the count.
They also allegedly destroyed documentary evidence that the law required them to retain in connection with mail-in voting. (This matters because the legal doctrine of spoliation — deliberately destroying documents that can be used as evidence in a possible case — means that the missing documents will be presumed to have shown evidence adverse to the party that destroyed them.)
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/sidney_powell_released_the_kraken_in_georgia.html
(!) Twitter’s contention that there are robust safeguards for mail in voting is disputed
Earnest Prole said...
“Or employ autocorrect when writing legal briefs?“
Made you look!
OK - not a fake screen shot. So odd.
I concur that the misspellings were deliberately inserted in order to give the fake media motive to report on this. Without such a hook, the media would be pretending it didn't exisf.
"A majority of Americans think the election was stolen."
Where do you get that idea?
Perhaps you mean: a majority of Americans who voted for Trump think the election was stolen.
The Kraken on Steroids jumps the shark.
Could you tell a wise man by the way he speaks or spells?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPX0mMiObN4
The party of Ebonics?
She's gonna take them "to church".
Is Ann, a law professor, going to add any value to the discussion? Now that Ann was tricked into linking to this filing will she actually read it and comment from a knowledgeable position?
It is a lot of work and a lot of people would prefer to remain ignorant so we understand not reading and remaining ignorant. We also understand that information that contradicts held beliefs is uncomfortable and some people prefer to avoid that condition.
Blogger Robert Cook said...
"A majority of Americans think the election was stolen."
Where do you get that idea?
Perhaps you mean: a majority of Americans who voted for Trump think the election was stolen.
Plus 30% of Democrats.
I smell sanctions.
Robert Cook said...
“"A majority of Americans think the election was stolen."
Where do you get that idea?
Perhaps you mean: a majority of Americans who voted for Trump think the election was stolen.“
No. There are other polls. Ones that I can read with a private browser.
Nobody thinks this election followed election laws.
The abrogation of our agreed rules invalidates the election. Full stop.
Okay, it's petty to focus on misspellings. But focusing of the petty is in the left's DNA. E.g., Guilani's Just for Men running down his forehead, not the allegations of outrageous fraud in an election.
Still, the misspellings should not have appeared. When writing any number of things, from complaints, to briefs, to memos, to letters, to lists, and so forth, I'll go through any number of drafts. Draft something, tweak it, then leave it for a time. Come back later, say after a night's sleep, and new insights come into view. As you go along run the spell checker every now and then.
These misspelling should have been caught long ago.
the @MattBraynard Report is out.
https://youtu.be/XH9ihoLi1NA
The misspellings are really ridiculous. Not normal misspellings. Outrageous variety.
Cook's link has a nice bit of Pro-Biden photo propaganda in there. Look at the smiling Biden... the happy Kamala. Are you in love?
I did say to myself reading it over that I wish I had an editorial pass at it.
That said, lack of court markings means it's not a filed copy. Did they just perform edits for a complaint/Motion for TRO that will be filed/amended tomorrow?
And why so many question marks on Moss's critique?
Mockery is part of the game.
Obama Corpseman, W’s Misunderestimate
Laugh now. Pay later.
Love it that people unfamiliar with the content of the filing are criticizing it!
The standard for an evidentiary hearing in court (not the legislature - that is an easier standard, and has been made in several states) has already been met in Nevada; Georgia and Michigan are next. (Pennsylvania right now is on a different, even better track).
Basically, for people who like numbers, if the fraudulent ballots can be traced to places that went 90-10 Biden (or, as has been documented in some 'batches', closer to 100-0 Biden) and if those places consist - follow my reasoning please, it is important - if those places consist of the same places that simply "have more votes than registered voters" or simply a documented high level of specific fraud and an anomalously large voter turnout (this last phrase is the only circumstantial evidence in the chain of evidence) - and if the derived fraud, by a preponderance of the evidence, would have changed the result in a state, then either (a) the certified results are decertified or (b) the results are updated, and the updated results are not certified.
The lawsuit in Georgia is a huge step towards the case going to the Supreme Court with Biden challenging the judicially imposed results, which is not what most people would have expected a week ago.
And Trump is much more likely to be inaugurated if one or more cases are brought to the Supreme Court by Biden.
Its a 100 pages long, if the only misspellings are in the title she set up George and all his buddies by getting them to bring the lawsuit and the information it contains to the public's attention.
I read 70 pages and putting aside the typos (and there are plenty), it is very poorly written. Very confusing. Lots of adjectives.
And when did a Complaint get combined with a brief? Lots of citations to cases and quotations from cases.
I won’t sign my name to that mess. That would never pass muster at my former Big Law (for Nebraska) firm.
It reflects poorly on her ability to prove and win her case.
Filing? WHAT "filing"?
Does anyone see a blue stamp?
Does "first draft" ring a bell?
Fire the paralegal who modified the caption.
If you click on Twitter for the download, you are given a warning that the document is “unsafe.”
I thought that Twitter users were sophisticated consumers of information, but apparently they need to be steered away from the other side of a discussion.
a law clerk would of been fired for producing that as a draft to an associate or partner, never mind actually filing it.
a law clerk would of been fired for producing that as a draft to an associate or partner, never mind actually filing it.
"would of"
yeesh
The section symbol is missing before U.S.C. citations in a few places. One comma had a yellow highlight on it. Very sloppy.
some commenter noted there are no court document docket # details showing
>>> has KRAKEN entered court IRL?
>>> does KRAKEN clean up nice-looking?
It’s by design.
Nobody would be typing or touching the words “District” on their form. They would mouse-click select the word “Southern” and type “Northern” then select “Texas” and type “Georgia”.
This link doesn’t have the misspellings. Hmmmm...
https://gofile.io/d/VcWavn
Go figure. Anybody else ever dealt with PDFs programmatically? Because I have and the encoding is a bear.
What I am saying about the encoding is that the misspellings could be an artifact of copying the document incorrectly somehow.
David Begley,
Are you viewing a copy from Pacer?
It almost looks like Althouse is passing on disinformation. Which if it came from that lowlife Conway, would not be a surprise. Maybe I am wrong, I am no expert on legal filings, but.
I just looked at the filed Complaint in the Michigan case. Same problems.
Birkel:
I looked at the Georgia Complaint linked by Mark Levin.
Conway is a truly reprehensible human being.
What husband harasses his wife's boss on an hourly basis, enables his nutty kid to air the family's dirty laundry in public, and undermines his wife's position and reputation?
He is a creepy, pathological jerk.
If she doesn't divorce his ass very soon I will lose respect for her...
Sidney Powell, per her website, mostly does appellate work. I can’t imagine her briefs look like that.
The auto correct error in prayer for relief (10) is still there in the gofile version where I took it out of my quote in the previous thread to eliminate confusion.
An emergency declaratory judgment that voting machines be
Seized and Impounded immediately for a forensic audit — by
plaintiffs’ expects [experts].
Anyway, I guess this is how the "well, when I worked at Big-law" game is played.
mccullough: "Mockery is part of the game.
Obama Corpseman, W’s Misunderestimate
How could you have overlooked yesterdays "Strong Catholic" (wink wink) Biden reference to the "Palmist"?
Shades of Screamin' Gov Dean's answers to the following questions:
1) Q: What is your favorite Book of the Bible? Ans: "Job" (rhymed with "lob")
2) Q: You mentioned you had a disagreement with your church and thats why you left. Ehat was that reason? Ans: "because I had a big fight with a local Episcopal church about 25 years ago over the bike path. . ."
"Over the bike path?" an incredulous Stephanopoulos asked.
"We were trying to get the bike path built," Dean answered. "They had control of a mile and a half of railroad bed, and they decided they would pursue a property-right suit to refuse to allow the bike path to be developed."
Wince,
Big Law attorneys make the same errors.
And they have Twitter partners.
Twitter Blocks ‘Potentially Harmful’ Links to Sidney Powell Election Lawsuit
What is Twitter afraid of?
Have the powers that be manipulated a copy?
Question is: why do so many of these people no longer work at "Big-law"?
Hmm, maybe this is the reason?
small step for a deplorable
giant leap for deplorables everywhere on earth - very worthy of Thanksgiving -- dinner conversations at the table.
David Shafer@DavidShafer
Let me repeat. Fulton County elections officials told the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m.
https://twitter.com/DavidShafer/status/1325956840769859586
Twitter claims that there are people who dispute the above statement of face.
If the election was fair, why did the Democrats work so hard to create the appearance that it was not fair?
Orwellian that Twitter labels it "Unsafe"
Twitter is unsafe.
“Now that Ann was tricked into linking to this filing will she actually read it and comment from a knowledgeable position?”
Those kraken are tricky bastards.
Lots of squirrel but enough to talk turkey? Enquiring minds want to know.
I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest.
Unleash the Kraken on Covfefe.
David Begley -
So strange...
"That key is Russian national interest.”
Easy peazey, shut down American fracking. Even that harpy who testified against Trump in impeachment said that she personally heard Putin say that fracking was a threat to Russian interests.
Sid's cyber expert witness:
Navid Keshavarz-Nia is an experienced ethical hacker, big data architect and cloud security expert in cloud computing, Blockchain technology, and big data analytic solutions. He has led or supported the CIA, NSA, DHS US-CERT, USCYBERCOM and the FBI.
https://cybersummitusa.com/2017/06/navid-nia/
the chinese connection
https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/060/164/829/small/fb1dd62c39a71e3d.png
video
tim in vermont: "It almost looks like Althouse is passing on disinformation. Which if it came from that lowlife Conway, would not be a surprise. Maybe I am wrong, I am no expert on legal filings, but."
Conway is in a bit of a quandary.
He must continue to bend the knee and kiss the arse of his far left funders by ramping up the attacks now that his lefty masters no longer need him.
Admittedly, Conway was a little slow out of the Show-Obedience-To-Dems gate compared to Romney, but thats just because Conway had eaten 7 pecan pies in a row, possibly pies similar to the pies that caused LLR-lefty Chuck's astonishing pecan pie meltdown at Althouse a few years back.
Look, if eating 7 pecan pies in a row is what Conway has to do to keep himself from unhinging his jaw and swallowing whole one of the neighborhood kids, well, then, I am for it!
Meanwhile, the faster moving, due to his spine removal surgery from some years back, Romney made a mad dash over to his new handler, Axelrod, to beg forgiveness for being a horrible republican from the very man who launched the campaign that painted Romney as a theocratic lunatic racist misogynist nazi animal hater who was going to put all black people back in chains and murdered a women with cancer and who caused a gay guy to kill himself by Romney allegedly giving the gay guy a haircut while in high school.
This latest Romney move, not unlike the Haj undertaken by devout muslims to Mecca, almost, almost, qualifies Romney as an Honorary LLR-lefty Chuck.
Romney has a bit more work to do to hit that very high Chuck standard.
“I read 70 pages and putting aside the typos (and there are plenty), it is very poorly written. Very confusing. Lots of adjectives.
“And when did a Complaint get combined with a brief? Lots of citations to cases and quotations from cases.
“I won’t sign my name to that mess. That would never pass muster at my former Big Law (for Nebraska) firm.
“It reflects poorly on her ability to prove and win her case.”
My thoughts when I first read it last night, after having just finished her MI case (which does have case markings), was that, yes, it was a rush job, because of how massive it is. I have read 100 page complaints before (mostly in the IP realm), and they rarely have half as many facts asserted, along with the causes of action, prayers for relief, etc. if nothing else, it was one of the densest sets of factual and legal allegations I can remember reading. Or I should say, both cases were. Yes, it is sloppy. And maybe they are trying to prove too much. But part of what they are engaged in, is public relations. No one can say, after reading the complaints, that, sure, election fraud was asserted, but it wasn’t bad enough to swing the election. Instead, she has thrown the kitchen sink at them, and it is now in the states’ and the Dems’ responsibility to address these various issues. Which ones do they spend their time contesting? Which ones do they spend their Thanksgivings panicking over?
My theory, right now, is that Powell is understaffed, was up against a deadline (probably of last night), has been working feverish on these complaints for most of a week, and filed them as best as they could get it by last night. The important thing was to get a stake in the ground, as to the allegations and the facts to support them, and hopefully to clean things up later. What must be remembered is that the question that they address may be the most urgent one this country has faced for awhile: who runs this country? The Red Chinese through their bought and paid for stage dummy (Biden)? Or someone willing and capable of standing up to them? Will the Dems succeed at cheating and stealing themselves the Presidency (and possibly the Senate) through industrial level election fraud? Or will the Rule of Law prevail?
Powell should put it all in a "dossier".
Lefties love dossiers.
Cant resist them actually.
When I was a young engineering student, I worked co-op assignments with a large chemical company. My supervisor was a Latvian engineer who was a stickler for detail. My buddy and I used to intentionally misspell words, use inconsistent units of measure, etc on our design drawings so he would find something wrong to correct. Then he was happy. He would tell us what sorry engineers we were, make us correct our "errors", and we moved on to our next projects.
It was a system that worked.
“Twitter Blocks ‘Potentially Harmful’ Links to Sidney Powell Election Lawsuit”
Yeh - the Twitter link I used last night to find the GA complaint is now gone. Go figure.
Regarding the Georgia alleged shutdown, I’d just subpoena the poll worker payroll records and timesheets.
Russia paid Hillary.
Note - that write up in the NYT -is the last time you'll ever see honest reporting about a D in the NYT.
Bruce 11:19 - great post.
“I smell sanctions.”
Do you think that she doesn’t have a factual basis for her allegations? For at least some of them, if not most of them? Which ones do you dispute, and on what grounds? Have you read the affidavits that she presumably submitted along with her complaints?
Sydney Powell may not be able to spell but she's fully capable of giving Kamala Harris and the Democrats the deciding vote in the Senate:
“Driven by Trump’s insistence that Georgia’s elections are indelibly rife with fraud, conspiratorial MAGA figures are calling for a boycott of the two Senate runoff races, slated for Jan. 5, that will determine which party controls the upper chamber.
“Their reason: The two GOP candidates, Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, are not only insufficiently pro-Trump, they may be complicit in Georgia’s electoral fraud.
“And while it’s hard to tell exactly how much of the online chatter reflects wider voter sentiment, some Republicans are worried the conspiracy talk could shave off just enough MAGA voters to hand a tight race to the Democrats.
“Powell, Trump’s erstwhile attorney, turned parts of the MAGA community against Loeffler when she started pushing an untrue allegation that Loeffler had somehow conspired with a voting technology company, Dominion Voting Systems, to suppress votes for Collins.”
Trump’s conspiracies have MAGA world talking Georgia boycott
Earnest Prole,
You're here to gaslight and chew bubble gum.
And you're all out of bubblegum.
A majority thought there was corruption, but not that the election was stolen. There is always some fraud, so it's a safe bet that some happened, but a majority doesn't believe that there was enough to change the outcome.
The gofile version looks more "authentic" to me, but that's just gut instinct so far.
Perhaps you mean: a majority of Americans who voted for Trump think the election was stolen.
Well, it's not just "a majority." Rasmussen found that 75% of the Republicans thought there was cheating, also, significantly, 30% of the Democrats. According to a CNBC poll 97% of Trump voters believe that the election was stolen. That's a lot of people, and I note that for all Biden's empty rhetoric about unity and "normalcy," the rhetoric from his base still wants violence. It's going to take one small spark. A couple Trump voters react to Democrat violence with violence, and then a few more people shrug their shoulders and say "What the heck, why not?" and it gets really bad really fast. Then Democrats will overreact with gun grabbing, because that's what they do instinctively, and then it goes to Hell in a matter of days.
Headline: Twitter drops pretense and censors Tweets as “Deplorable”.
Thank you for your concern EP. Definitely Trump should concede immediately.
Politico always has their finger on the pulse of Republican sentiment. Yeesh!
Make fun of the filings all you want. The issue is that universal mail in ballots and enormously expanded absentee ballots are voting methods ripe for fraud, which must be prevented. Stick to the issue, or we'll know you aren't being serious.
Earnest Prole: "Trump’s conspiracies have MAGA world talking Georgia boycott"
The immediate subheader from Proles link:
"It's hard to tell if the online chatter reflects wider voter sentiment, but some Republicans have expressed concern."
Yeah. Its made up. Again.
Maybe Howard should ask himself “What is in the Chinese national interest?” You know, the country with the reams of kompromat on Biden?
Looks like this is a draft. I couldn't find that this has been filed in the Northern District of Georgia. Just did a PACER query at 1:30pm.
I guess a paralegal will have time to correct the typos that George kindly pointed out.
To me it looks like last spring's settlement between the SOS and the Georgia Democratic Party in contravention of Georgia statutory law could be the kill shot. We'll see.
Happy Thanksgiving to our hostess and my fellow guests.
Distrcoict. Thet boy's tryin' waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too hard.
For those flyspecking, the fact that someone with the requisite skill isn’t on the case is the true scandal for the profession.
Bruce:
It is very difficult to write a 100 page Complaint under time constraints. But I expected better quality legal work. It reflects poorly on her credibility and ability. The election results could depend on her.
I suppose the judge will sift through it, but way make it harder for the judge?
My little legal team of four then young lawyers wrote a peremptory writ of mandamus and brief and filed it directly with the Nebraska Supreme Court in about a week. And none of us knew a thing about election law. We had to learn it on the fly.
The thing of it is, there is considerable merit to the cases when you get to the important stuff. It would be obvious if better lawyers wrote the Complaints.
Prole - It was discovered that the left are attempting to spoil the GA senate run-off by inserting that crap. divide the right against itself.
'Powell should put it all in a "dossier".'
Now that's funny...
I don't have a resumé, I have a Curriculum Vitae (CV).
Despite the funny thing over the 'e,' Latin is so much grander than French : )
Prole - do you buy the fake "boycott" pushed by the left? That's what that is.
"Wince said...
For those flyspecking, the fact that someone with the requisite skill isn’t on the case is the true scandal for the profession.”
Right, they have been doxxing lawyers, attacking them, threatening them that if they work for Trump they will never work again... It would be a scandal if it weren’t the plan. It all goes back the evil crone:
Hillary believed that she had discovered a legal loophole which would deny President Richard Nixon his Sixth Amendment right to legal counsel.
Now they are trying to deny Trump counsel by other means.
If the facts are on your side, pound the facts.
If the law is on your side, pound the law.
If neither is on your side, pound the table.
If even the table isn't on your side, point out typos.
Last week: "Powell has no evidence!!!!"
This week: "A 100 page complaint citing evidence. Ridiculous!!!"
I think the other lawyers here would agree with me that a good lawyer makes the case simple as possible to understand. Keep out all the irrelevant crap. Figure out what is important. Know what you can prove. Know the weaknesses in your own case.
Errors are only allowed on ballot applications and the ballots themselves, not court filings.
Clint
I want Trump to win. His cases have great merit. But the poorly written and sloppy Complaints don’t help him.
The immediate subheader from Proles link: "It's hard to tell if the online chatter reflects wider voter sentiment, but some Republicans have expressed concern."
Or as the text I quoted put it, "And while it’s hard to tell exactly how much of the online chatter reflects wider voter sentiment, some Republicans are worried the conspiracy talk could shave off just enough MAGA voters to hand a tight race to the Democrats."
It's great that minor matters out in Nebraska were conducted with the same efficiency used for an international conspiracy, no doubt while being pursued by a legion of enemy operatives whose top priority was to have you disbarred and sentenced to prison. While knowing that fellow Big Law professionals may shamefully withdraw their services based on raw intimidation from your opponents. Pettifoggery is a valid PR strategy, admittedly, and may have success with a judge named Totenberg. It still doesn't actually provide laymen with the broad-level explanation they'd be searching for at this hour. The current scorecard:
- White "survivalist" with no legal training:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/mailvox-analysis-of-powell-filing.html
- Retired Lawprof Barbie:
Guys, reading the case is HARD, okay?!
"Republicans are worried the conspiracy talk ...”
Pants wetters who go to Politico with their every new fright clutching their pearls over the deplorable base of their own party. Once again, thank you for your concern. No, Trump is not going to concede until he actually loses, if he loses.
It’s well known to us that many Senators wish they had a different base.
I'm starting to think the election might go to the House after all.
That would be interesting, like World War II was interesting. At least Paul Ryan is gone. How many GOP House members have the guts to do this?
David Begley said...
The thing of it is, there is considerable merit to the cases when you get to the important stuff. It would be obvious if better lawyers wrote the Complaints.
I am being completely serious and not being in any way mean.
I bet she would appreciate help from volunteers.
Given how lawyers are being openly attacked and threatened with termination, violence, and disbarment for helping Trump she is probably understaffed.
I would appreciate it greatly if people like you or Bruce Hayden helper her out.
Achilles said...
I bet she would appreciate help from volunteers.
11/26/20, 12:20 PM
You'd lose that bet. If people claim typos are bad, then internal sabotage could do fatal damage to Powell. She has no reason to employ lawyers with less than total reliability after years working for the Trump Administration on high pressure cases. Much less randos off the street.
Achilles 12:20
That is a great idea. Probably too late, but so what. She needs volunteers, anonymous legal minds - so that they are not a target of the corrupt Nazi left's destruction campaign.
The words "expressed concern" are consistently only ever used when echoing RINO leftist infiltrators serving the Left's narrative.
Actual conservatives are only capable of "pouncing" and "falsely attacking".
Right now, time is of the essence. If Powell hadn't filed something yesterday, warts and all, then she would have probably had to wait until Monday morning due to the long holiday.
Better to file a flawed complaint on Wednesday and amend on Monday rather than wait another five days before getting something on file with a case number and a judicial assignment.
and yeah normally you don't put case law and argument into a complaint ...unless you want to get in front of a judge right away for a substantive ruling. That way you avoid hearing a judge say "that's not in front of me."
Powell worked miracles with the Flynn case, relying on an incredible true set of facts. Maybe lightning won't strike twice in this case, but she has a lot of credibility built in with me at least.
I do enjoy a good pounce.
thanks doctrev for voxday link.
Q : can this be jury trial with jury from concerned citizens pool?
a law clerk would of been fired for producing that as a draft to an associate or partner, never mind actually filing it.
"would of"
yeesh
THAT ...is hilarious. The irony!
Robert Barnes@Barnes_Law
Democrats used signature matches to keep the Greens off the ballot in several key states in 2020. Why shouldn't the same signature match standards apply to absentee ballots?
That was then, this is now. We were doing the Lord’s work!
@David Begley said...
"I want Trump to win. His cases have great merit. But the poorly written and sloppy Complaints don’t help him."
I agree, they don't. But given the ridiculously compressed schedule for all of this, I'm more concerned that they get the facts and the law right.
There was widespread fraud and the statistical analysis shows it. Its sad that Kemp and his RINO secretary of state seem intent on electing Joe Biden, but can we expect anything else from the R Establishment?
What happened in GA is what happened in wisc and penn, nevada, and arz. Dead people, out of state residents, and others who shouldn't have voted were allowed to do so. R ballots weren't counted, while anything for Biden was counted no matter how invalid. And the D election officials REFUSED to allow the R's to observe the vote count.
And we haven't even talked about the failure to match the signatures as required by all the state laws. No one has explained how certain Democrat precincts voted 100% for Biden, or had more votes than registered voters, or showed insane increases in votes over those cast for Hillary or Obama.
Obama says mail in ballots can only be trusted if the signatures match.
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1331942266018082819
Didn’t see any Twitter warning on the clip.
Biden is ahead through Fraud. Of course, The R's want to be good losers, that's their objective. So, who knows how this will turn out. Its basically Trump and the 70 million who voted for him on one side, and the D's and R Establishment on the other.
doctrev - Your Vox Day link worth reading. Thanks.
7. What to look for. There are a few things to watch for if there is a hearing. For one, federal (NOT state, and this is hugely important for federal jurisdiction) law requires that all records related to the election of a President, VP and senators be kept for at least 22 months after an election.
Not that it matters, but the American people are not demanding that Trump concede.
https://thepostmillennial.com/two-thirds-of-americans-back-recounts-poll
These are the same people who mocked DJT's tweets for misspellings. Phuque 'em, I say.
McConnell and Ryan NEVER had a good explanation for not supporting Trump's desire in 2017 to clean up the voter rolls and try to get illegal aliens, double voters, etc. off the State registers so we could have a valid election.
The Republican Senate and party establishment also ignores Trump's warnings that Voting by mail was an invitation to fraud and invalid votes. IRC, Mittens was out there in September telling how great voting by mail was. The Republicans without Trump are the CLOWN party!
In early October, 2020, a federal district judge in this same district (Northern District of Georgia) ruled after several years of litigation that the Dominion software used to monitor this election has substantial issues and it will affect an election. The Plaintiffs were Democrats who filed suit in response to the 2016 election. They sought an order forcing Georgia to use different software. They conducted discovery and hearings over years, including 3 days of expert testimony about how these very voting machines work. The court ultimately denied the request because it was simply too late to change the voting machines since the election at that time was roughly a month away.
From the vox day link. The more you know...
Gotcha Tim. That was a direct quote from Churchill. I was looking for the riddle enigma saying and didn't realize the wider context. Happy Thanksgiving!
rcocean: "McConnell and Ryan NEVER had a good explanation for not supporting Trump's desire in 2017 to clean up the voter rolls and try to get illegal aliens, double voters, etc. off the State registers so we could have a valid election."
Of course they had a good reason to let the lax controls continue: get rid of OrangeManBad.
After which the establishment republicans assumed their deal with the dems would entail getting things back to "normal".
Predictably, inevitably, the democraticals never had any intention of returning to "normal".
The democraticals are so very close to full one party societal and institutional control and the complete destruction of checks and balances, why would they ever return to some previous "normal". That view absolutely defies human nature.
Once the wratchet moves left, it usually doesnt move back. Trump arrested it for a bit, but it will now continue with a vengeance.
It was discovered that the left are attempting to spoil the GA senate run-off by inserting that crap. divide the right against itself.
If by the left you mean Sydney Powell and her allegations that Georgia Republican officials played a key role in the conspiracy to steal the election for Joe Biden, sure.
While folks here obsess, Trump practices for club championship.
However, Plaintiffs specifically allege that the voting machines do not keep copies of original paper ballots and are designed to avoid this audit trail. See ¶98 of the complaint.
somehow I was under the impression that machines provided receipt of ballot with actual details for voter to take home and keep
Prole - 2 different messages you got there.
1) the left's BS liar campaign to trick voters into staying home for the Senate run off. (Let the D's handle it... btw - I think I heard the water running)
2) Powell named the some GA R officials as part of a conspiracy. I don't know what to make of that.
Michael K said...
I'm starting to think the election might go to the House after all.
That would be interesting, like World War II was interesting. At least Paul Ryan is gone. How many GOP House members have the guts to do this?
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if down ballot races have similar deficiencies cascade effect ? how goes the House Division between R and D!!
or is that for later fun and games
If an election were stolen, you would think people would want to know about it.
Politico always has their finger on the pulse of Republican sentiment.
“‘I’m seeing a lot of talk from people that are supposed to be on our side telling GOP voters not to go out & vote for @KLoeffler and @Perduesenate. That is NONSENSE. IGNORE those people,’ implored Donald Trump Jr.”
Q : showmanship and gamesmanship would require that I would want different judge get case and the judge from previous litigation be called as witness - is that allowed / possible
is the judiciary accountable to people in any shape or form
Plaintiffs will catch a big break if the judge who did the litigation on Dominion software gets this case because the judge will know the issues with Dominion and have the background to get up to speed quickly.
Narayanan,
The other races could be rescheduled with nobody seated.
That is not an option for the president unless some truly crazy shit happened (e.g. nuclear attack).
"...supposed to be..."
Concern Trolls.
How could Earnest Prole not recognize the type?
My father was a schoolteacher and my mother had a masters in English literature, which explains why I was brought up in strict adherence to the rules of English grammar. I annoyed all of my high school friends by correcting their grammatical foibles. Finally I pissed one off enough for him to say, "Well you knew what I meant, didn't you?" My friend was right. I knew what he meant.
So if you encounter the misspelling "Districct" or even "Distrcoict", you knew what they meant, right? Good, because you can shut up now. What is important here is the content, not the spelling.
I know that the Lincoln Project had a thing going where they were trying to get the stupid as stumps Trump voters to write in Donald Trump in the runoff elections. This is nothing more than a disinformation campaign by the left. No need to get your panties in a knot.
Earnest Prole said...
"'It's hard to tell if the online chatter reflects wider voter sentiment, but some Republicans have expressed concern.'"
Some Republicans. All of them named Chuck.
God hates Pussies
I know David Worley. He’s a piece of shit democrat hack (True there are no other types of democrats, but I digress). A gutter attorney, scraping out a living at the government teat.
back in the day, general officers used the word "well" a lot,
Coop, you lost me, but in the words of Warren Oates, “Well, okay, hotshot.”
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/cac0c945-7b65-47ae-87c2-22fcd8373460
"First impressions maaahhttteeerr".
Which is why it's critically important to let the NY Times and WaPo provide you with the vast bulk of first impressions you receive, and to eschew any icky first impressions from desirable right wing websites. Especially true and important when what the NY Times and WaPo are giving you is your first impression of what those icky right wingers are arguing. Wouldn't want to get THAT first impression from the original sources, after all. Biased news filters maaaaahhtttter too.
*desirable = deplorable
For your reading pleasure, here's Sidney Powell's complaint filed today in Michigan
Some Republicans. All of them named Chuck.
If Trump Jr is LLR Chuck, sure.
The genius of Sydney Powell’s conspiracy allegations against Georgia Republicans is that if they end up costing Republicans the Senate it will be further proof of the conspiracy.
Covfefe
John Henry
The concept of "controlled opposition", the first tool of every fascist political party ever, has completely escaped Earnest Prole, as has the literally thousands of times that actual conservatives here have complained that at least 50% of the Republican Party has become exactly that.
He's quick like that.
Blogger Howard said...
"God hates Pussies"
Which is why he's not very pleased with you.
Someone on the Instapundit threads pointed out that it's very possible this was an OCR scan of the related documents. That hadn't occurred to me, but yes, those are notorious for producing misspelling results exactly like this.
tim in vermont said...
"This link doesn’t have the misspellings. Hmmmm...
https://gofile.io/d/VcWavn
Go figure. Anybody else ever dealt with PDFs programmatically? Because I have and the encoding is a bear."
I've written code to parse PDFs and I agree, the bastardized PostScript used to encode PDFs is a major pain in the ass to decipher.
I downloaded the document at your link, converted it to MS Word format, opened it in MS Word, and ran spellcheck on it. I only found 4 misspellings...
"cancelled" (canceled)
"befoe" (before)
"abllots" (ballots)
"machiens" (machines)
Odd. Are there two version of this document out there?
Usually these cases are assigned, on a random basis, to the next judge on deck, among the federal judges in a district. But, I'll just bet there's been secret meetings among the federal judges in GA, PA, MI, as to how and who will be the assigned judge for each district. That judge is gonna be in the hot seat for sure.
"Don't throw out the fraudulent votes and you've sanctioned fraud for all future elections"
"Throw out fraudulent votes and you're disregarding an election"
We get to see if these judges are profiles in courage or putty.
I'm betting putty.
Covfefe
It's an Eastern European pronunciation. That said, covfefe for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, perhaps midnight refresher, too.
Obama's corpseman
Freudian slip. Here's to 16 trimesters of Biden reusing, recycling, sustaining his legacy. The good Americans will go along to get along.
FULL DISCLOSURE
I Roscoe B Davis well over 18 years old by decades, corrected two typos in the GA filing before I reposted it to a “Titter Safe” link that doesn’t redirect you, to try and avoid triggering everyone suffering from OCD being off their meds.
So the version I linked had the typos corrected.
"Don't throw out the fraudulent votes and you've sanctioned fraud for all future elections"
This statement is inherently true on its face.
"Throw out fraudulent votes and you're disregarding an election"
This statement is completely internally inconsistent.
Earnest Prole said...
The genius of Sydney Powell’s conspiracy allegations against Georgia Republicans is that if they end up costing Republicans the Senate it will be further proof of the conspiracy.
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I'm interested in hearing from you the psychology of Republicans becoming angered by a claim making a prima facie case of illegal actions changing their vote to Democrat.
Over the years, what's the ratio of convictions of corrupt Democrat politicians to Republicans? Quite a lot more of the former than the latter, IIRC--and I do.
So why would a Republican be "angered" enough to change his/her vote to support the Historical Party of Corruption?
Oh, give the Concern Troll Earnest Prole a break.
He's here to gaslight and chew bubblegum.
The concept of "controlled opposition", the first tool of every fascist political party ever, has completely escaped Earnest Prole
According to Stacey Abrams, she would be Governor of Georgia had not Brad Raffensperger (R) stolen the election from her. According to Sydney Powell, Donald Trump would be a second-term American President had not Brad Raffensperger (R) stolen the election from him.
Isn’t it more accurate to call this remarkable power the “uncontrolled opposition”?
I pity these people. I really do.
Anyone that gave this more than a passing thought, let alone feel the need to "discuss" it publicly..has my pity.
the typo's all look like algorithm artifacts to me. been laughing about it all day. sorta proves algorithms alter documents.
MoonFace George ended his Twitter embargo after like ten days.
Here is what Twitter (MTCTSBLAW*) had to say about the link to Powell's website, where the complaint can be downloaded;
"Warning: this link may be unsafe
http://www.DefendingTheRepublic.Org
The link you are trying to access has been identified by Twitter or our partners as being potentially spammy or unsafe, in accordance with Twitter’s URL Policy."
*May The Cocks They Suck Be Long And Wide
From the complaint;
"Specifically, video from the State Farm Arena in Fulton County shows
that on November 3rd after the polls closed, election workers falsely claimed
a water leak required the facility to close. All poll workers and challengers
were evacuated for several hours at about 10:00 PM. However, several
election workers remained unsupervised and unchallenged working at the
computers for the voting tabulation machines until after 1:00 AM."
Destroying the envelope for mail-in ballots--after a SCOTUS order not to do so-- was a boss move on the part of Lefties.
And those spelling errors are suspicious. I bet I can do that for everything Althouse has gotten into print.
Jupiter said...
Here is what Twitter (MTCTSBLAW*) had to say about the link to Powell's website, where the complaint can be downloaded;
"Warning: this link may be unsafe
http://www.DefendingTheRepublic.Org
Just think what they can ban in the name of safety. Just think of what they can deem "unsafe" to justify banning it.
Don't bother. They already have.
When we were busy laughing at "safe spaces" on campus because a non-lib was speaking behind closed doors in a conference room to 20 invited guests, they were busy executing a well thought out strategy.
Blogger Rusty said...
Blogger Howard said...
"God hates Pussies"
Which is why he's not very pleased with you.
What can I say... you are what you eat.
Ah.
Georgia
Michigan
The plaintiffs are Republican candidates for Elector, which should establish standing. There is more than enough evidence to establish probable cause. Once they start discovery, Katie bar the door. The cornered rats will all turn on each other! I am guessing the Kraken has more than two appendages. Virginia? Arizona? Wisconsin? I guess we won Florida, the electors can't sue there.
This is more like it! I am beginning to realize why Trump's team and Powell's agreed to work independently. Time to go make another donation to DefendTheRepublic.org!
Pennsylvania and Nevada, of course. I was thinking about the fact that no one is going to try to overturn the results in Oregon, and it occurred to me that if you want to steal an election, you need a big, blue city run by corrupt Democrat scum, embedded like a suppurating chancre in the flesh of a red or at least reddish state. There's no point in stealing Oregon or New York or California. They were surprised they needed to steal PA and VA, they got caught flat-footed. And soon enough, red-handed.
Wince, get a hair cut if you want anyone to take you seriously.
This is interesting from page 35 of the Powell Georgia filing:
I also observed that the watermark on at least 3 ballots were solid gray instead of transparent, leading me to believe the ballot was counterfeit.
H/T Gateway pundit for the pointer.
True watermarks are not printed on the paper. They are debossed into the paper at the paper mill. That is why they are translucent.
Word, and many other programs, will put what they call a "watermark" on a page saying do not copy or whatever you like. I think they can put an image like a seal but I don't think I've ever tried it. This is just a printed, 5% or so, grey imprint.
If legitimate ballots are printed on watermarked paper and phony ballots with a printed watermark are mixed in, it should be easy to pick them out.
If they are printed on laser or inkjet printers, as opposed to a commercial printing press, they can be traced. Most laser and inkjet printers print microcode on every document with a printer ID code. This is usually done with the yellow ink and can be seen with a strong loupe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code#/media/File:Printermarkrp.jpg
This may be an interesting line of inquiry.
John Henry
Gotta like the way they dealt with the Flynn matter, too. It would have been more gratifying watching Sullivan being slowly crushed between a rock and a hard place, but I'm sure Flynn and his family are relieved to be out from under his thumb, and Powell is needed elsewhere.
I do some work in the printing industries, especially with cartons and labels used in packaging.
It is very easy to see what kind of process, inkjet, laser, digital press, flexo or other is used. Often with the naked eye. Certainly with a loupe.
If ballots were printed by differnt printers, especially with different processes, it will be easy to tell them apart.
At least by a person with a loupe who knows what to look for.
John Henry
Achilles said, "Now that Ann was tricked into linking to this filing will she actually read it and comment from a knowledgeable position?"
No, she will let her commentariat have a food fight about it.
"At least by a person with a loupe who knows what to look for."
Based on what I've read the past couple of weeks, there are more than a few people who don't want to look. At anything relating to the election, which might challenge the result they prefer.
One would think that assuring an honest vote count would be desirable but I guess if your morals can be described as "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing", you (hi, progs!) can excuse most anything that gets in your way.
"No, she will let her commentariat have a food fight about it."
A good instructor tries to encourage her class to participate in discussion. Only the very wise learn by listening in silence.
Conway has apparently never learned that “A witty saying proves nothing.”
Qwinn said...
"First impressions maaahhttteeerr".
Which is why it's critically important to let the NY Times and WaPo provide you with the vast bulk of first impressions you receive, and to eschew any icky first impressions from desirable right wing websites. Especially true and important when what the NY Times and WaPo are giving you is your first impression of what those icky right wingers are arguing. Wouldn't want to get THAT first impression from the original sources, after all. Biased news filters maaaaahhtttter too.
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when it comes to law I believe professora assumes the robes of appellate judge/justice >>> = don't bother me with facts ; we only decide points of law and interpretation - real world be damned = aka cruel neutrality
"I do some work in the printing industries, especially with cartons and labels used in packaging."
I did a lot of design for retail packaging...litho laminate corrugated, sleeves, etc. Did most of the printing in LA because they had the big presses.
Nothing I loved more than being in a plant doing a press check...the sound of the presses and the smell of the ink...fantastic.
Tell me again why I should care what Trump-haters say.
Because we won. We made Trump the biggest loser. Loser. Trump claimed that all of his boorishness, his bluntness, his simplicity, his recklessness, his constant fighting and agitation; it was all in the service of something much bigger. That bigger thing was that he was a winner. Well, no more. Trump is a loser. A massive, colossal, embarrassing loser.
It was a one-candidate election. A yes or no vote on Trump. Trump wasn't beaten by a better candidate. Trump lost to a shitty candidate. Trump was really beaten by Trump. As I have said before, this was the Hate Election. Trump Hatred won the 2020 election.
Chuck: "We made Trump the biggest loser."
Also Chuck: "Fraudulent or not, it's a win for me."
Put those two lines together, and you get Translated Chuck: "We couldn't stand Trump winning and kicking our ass every single day for four years, no matter how many lies, fraudulent dossiers, or bullshit FISA warrants we threw at him. Hell, we even tried to impeach him for Biden's crimes and he still won that. But this time we got him with industrial scale voter fraud, and it worked! We finally win! We're not the losers like everyone says anymore! Trump is the loser now! Haha!"
Except it really is starting to look like Trump was ready for your fraud. He knew what you were doing, he knew where it would take place, and he got people in to collect the evidence.
The walls are finally closing in. Chuck. But not on Trump. The bell tolls for thee.
It's not over yet Chuck. And if it turns out that it is, the next 4 years are going to make 2020 look like Happy Days. Buckle up buttercup.
Anyone out there have the case number for this one? I have seen the document posted that purports to be the complaint filed in the Northern District of GA - but this could well be a draft that differs from what was filed, if anything has actually been filed at all. I searched Pacer for the name of the lead plaintiff and for Brian Kemp as a defendant in cases filed in the last 5 days and I get bupkes.
Wen you see a document that has been filed in the federal courts it will have a header line which is applied by the court system, with Case number, date, document serial #, and "page X of Y" marked across the top margin of each page, usually in blue, but possibly in black if it was downloaded and distilled as a pdf before being shared. I have not seen that in any of the copies circulating.
It's one thing to circulate copies of a document purported to be something filed or about to be filed in federal court. It is entirely another thing to circulate pleadings actually filed in a case. Have not seen that yet.
Im sorry, Austrian is my native tongue.
Chuck, youre the guy at the poker table we talk about.
Blogger Drago said.
We been lookin at this all wrong.
Chuck the c#*t is exactly what he says he is. He is a life long republican. In the sense that republican alderman in Chicago is a life long republican. Chuck is in on the grift. He's part of the political machine in whatever precinct, ward, township, municipality he represents in court. I have no doubt he's a lawyer and a very powerful one in his little political circle. That's why he feels comfortable making bets for 10,000. He's got it. It's also why he feels comfortable making threats. If you live in his jurisdiction he can make your life very uncomfortable. And costly. And that's why he loathes Trump. It isn't unreasonable. Trump has gotten rid of a lot of regulations that were very profitable on the local level. Chuck is a corrupt political operative.
Chuck. I apologize. You're not a cunt.
You're a corrupt lawyer working in a corrupt political machine. And that makes you an evil shit.
I probably wasn't far off accusing you of vote fraud. What was the turnout in your particular self made shithole of Michigan? Pretty close to 100%, huh? Nearly all Biden I bet. They better have voted that way if the know what's good for them, right? Well we'll find out. It always comes out eventually.
You're dismissed.
Other links to the document don’t show the typos. I don’t know if any if them are the one that was actually filed, but there’s no reason to think this is the real one.
A more recent poll.
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/11/21/rasmussen-poll-20-30-of-democrats-believe-the-election-was-stolen-from-trump-998438
My guess is that the 20 to 30% of Democrats who think the election was stolen are the Democrats who voted for Trump.
"The misspellings are really ridiculous. Not normal misspellings. Outrageous variety."
-- That's what made me think this is some sort of problem with scanning or having Word/Adobe try and read a document and create something from it.
"Keep out all the irrelevant crap. Figure out what is important. Know what you can prove. Know the weaknesses in your own case."
-- I think the problem here is that if you just bring one or two pieces of evidence, you get what's happened to every other case that only brings in the minimum amount to make a case: The judge says, "Yeah, this isn't enough to change the election, so I'm not dealing with it," or they kick it up. Powell *had* to throw enough out there that there was no more squirming.
Do I think Biden stole the election? I have serious doubts, but I also have read enough that makes me say: "Well, it isn't pants on head crazy to think it happened. So... I see no harm in finding out."
If Powell can probe a few of the things claimed (like that states destroyed things you'd need to prove fraud happened, and therefore, we have to assume fraud happened,) I'll be impressed and surprised.
I read the entire document last night, all 104 pages.
I found it well written. No typos other than district jumped out at me with one exception.
Around the middle of the document the word "come" (iirc) has a tilde instead of an "e" this would support the contention of some here that it was scanned and ocr'd.
I noticed a comment in the filing by one of the afiants that some ballots felt different. There's all kinds of paper and this is plausible.
Bank tellers can often pick out counterfeit bills because it feels different,no matter how carefully made.
If there are counterfeit ballots printing and paper may make them easy to prove.
The paper ballots we ran through our dominion scanners here in pr were heavier paper, perhaps 30-40# and had a very smooth surface. Perhaps even a coating.
If, as some theories hold, the dems got caught short election night, they might not have had time or resources to do good counterfeits.
Besides, the fix was in so they didn't need do good counterfeits.
John Henry
"It would have been more gratifying watching Sullivan being slowly crushed between a rock and a hard place, but I'm sure Flynn and his family are relieved to be out from under his thumb, and Powell is needed elsewhere."
-- Except it wouldn't happen. The pardon was the best Flynn was going to get, because Sullivan was never going to rule in any way other than the way he wanted to from the moment the case started.
There's an infographic floating around that breaks it down. Of the three assertions (traditional fraud, governor-level executive overreach, and the Kraken (foreign government or homebrew electoral manipulation of the machines), I am pretty well sold on governors/legislatures screwing up the rules/implementation, I'm sure there's always some level of traditional fraud -- but that third category is where I'm skeptical.
Matt Sablan:
I would ask you to compare your two comments.
In one you submit that a federal judge was acting in a corrupt manner in his professional capacity.
In the other you submit that the sort of fraud alleged likely did not happen.
What makes the one extraordinary thing likely and the other not?
When you think of the trillions of dollars that are at stake in an election, plus al the past fraud in elections the world over, what makes you think election fraud is unlikely?
Do you think think judges act the way you're alleging all the time.
If you ponder it, I think you will have some further questions.
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