"President Trump’s businessman brand of governance has many Americans feeling this nation is failing. I suppose the dumpster fire of climate denialism, political corruption and general scamminess of, well, everything would be dire enough circumstances to make a female president possible. In particular, Democrats — whom you might expect to be wary of placing another female candidate before the American public — are facing a political disaster of their own making.... [A] lot of Democrats are faithful to conventional political wisdom that they cannot win the White House by running from the left. Ocasio-Cortez is made for this moment.... As we learned in 2008, when history says it’s your time, it’s your time."
Writes Tressie McMillan Cottom, in "Is Ocasio-Cortez Ready for the Glass Cliff?" (NYT gift link).
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126 comments:
"..President Trump’s businessman brand of governance has many Americans feeling this nation is failing..."
just when i think, that the NYTs could NOT get ANY more moronic..
They go and prove me wrong
by WHAT criterion, is this nation "failing" because of "President Trump’s businessman brand of governance?
The stock market?
The economy in general?
oh! i know, the "endless war (5 months!) in Iran?
Sophie Cunningham? Sydney Sweeney?
oh! OH! i Know! I KNOW! Ellen Page!!!
Yada yada…
More bullshit from the Yew Nork Times…
Scott Adams repeatedly described AOC as a “great persuader.”
He predicted she would be a legit presidential candidate.
I haven’t listened to her much, and I’m conservative, so I get everything she says translated through right leaning media. But, I take her seriously. Adams said you should.
How many examples are there of "women being recruited to lead failing companies?" And of those examples, how many of these female leaders actually succeeded in turning around said failing companies. I sense a strawman, er, straw-woman.
The Democrats suffer from the tendency to believe their own press releases. AOC would do great in a few deep blue strongholds but nationally she's too far left. She knows that, and she's trying to back away from some of her more extreme positions, but you can't back away from stuff that's already on videotape.
They are really trying to make AOC a thing. What is it about the left and propelling forward women who are not very bright?
If she ran, she would have very, very good chances of winning the nomination- the far left loves her and they turn out in primary voting. In the right conditions, she could very well end up as President. She is a complete fool and incompetent at everything except for her own self-promotion but that isn't a barrier to winning a general election.
"Tressie McMillan Cottom". Huh. Is she, by any chance, a perky lil' BLACK girl? Why yes, yes she is. No doubt she majored in plagiarism at some Ivy League shithole.
" general scamminess of, well, everything " - You mean like Hunter Biden and the many scams of the Biden clan? You mean like the Clinton Foundation (possibly the biggest scam in the history of the world)? You mean the $100M+ fortune accumulated by Nancy Pelosi whose only job her whole life was to work for the governmen? You mean those scams, right?
The NYT is a joke.
Where does the NY Times find these idiots? Cambridge?
"Climate denialism"
I deny the climate!
Leftists are corrupt and stupid. a really harmful combo.
The democrat party is a criminal enterprise.
We just had the biggest nationwide year over year drop in crime in history on top of an already historic low crime rate. The stock market is at record highs, and as to our forever wars: as of May 13, 2026, there have been 260 military deaths of all kinds, thirteen of these were hostile deaths resulting from "Operation Epic Fury." If current trends continue, 2026 is projected to be one of the lowest years on record for military deaths. The real forever wars we have are among blacks in blue cities under long-term Democrat control.
For the first time in my life I'm seeing government fraud, theft and waste being eliminated on a large scale. Also for the first time since I was kid, the U.S. is ascendant on the world stage, solving long festering problems and creating new alliances where they seemed impossible before. I'm not getting everything I want, but I'm getting much more than I ever expected.
ChrisC: "What is it about the left and propelling forward women who are not very bright?"
The bright ones are on the right! These dim ones are all the left has! CC, JSM
bagoh20: "We just had the biggest nationwide year over year drop in crime in history on top of an already historic low crime rate. The stock market is at record highs....2026 is projected to be one of the lowest years on record for military deaths....government fraud, theft and waste being eliminated on a large scale.,,,,"
IOW, from the left's perspective, a catastrophe! Put a woman in charge! CC, JSM
Tressie was a Black Panther diaper baby.
The Times gave us the Fox Butterfield effect: more people are in prison, yet strangely crime is down. Is there a similar confusion of cause and effect here? Dying institutions become dominated by women and choose women as leaders. Do they choose women as leaders because they are dying, or are they dying because they are dominated by women? Possibly cause and effect are more intermingled and harder to separate. Possibly big and old institutions are dying anyway, but the woman at the top isn't set up to fail as a patsy or scapegoat for male failures. By the time corporations choose a woman CEO they are already focused on publicity rather than on profits.
The only real problem we have is the Left and their lack of reason, knowledge and morality. I expect the century-long battle with that to continue, but it sure is a shame that this one problem is all that keeps us from having nice things, and it all goes back to bad education. Decades of daddy issues educating our people.
The shit show can’t get any worse, calling the Democrats a criminal enterprise? Pot meet kettle. I used to think Republicans were smarter, but it turns out that I just found their brand of lies more appealing.
Do Americans love to turn to women when the metaphorical house is metaphorically burning down? Not at the level of national politics. There is no American Margaret Thatcher or Golda Meir or Indira Gandhi.
They actually published that as an article and put their name on it?
The Maybelline Marxist is yet another hollywood actress.
AOC is entirely unimpressive and there is no end to the dumb crap that comes out of her mouth.
If Trump had stuck to his knitting, none of this would be a problem, instead he chose, like Obama in Syria, like Carter fomenting the Iran Iraq war, like George W Bush, like Joe Biden, to dance to Israel’s tune. The war is approved by 35 percent of Americans , and the actuary tables say that this demographic is getting smaller every year.
Trump blew it, squandered his presidency because he didn’t want to disappoint Daddy Bibi.
The modern democrat party is a criminal enterprise.
Some in the GOP like gravy too. But mere greed - doesn't compare to the Walzian Newsum Biden Soros Chi Com corrupt left.
Biden, Harris and Walz are proof that nobody is too stupid or incompetent for the Left, and all three were absolutely abysmal at communication, therefore there is no reason not to take every potential candidate seriously. They will vote for any Democrat, and they don't need a good reason for it. No reason, no knowledge, no morality, and no standards. The whole political fight is over relatively few voters who are persuadable. That gives me hope, because I think the Right has the only good arguments.
I'm beginning to think that commenter "Jaq" is actually Tucker Carlson using a pseudonym.
"... Americans love to turn to women when the house is burning down.."
“Supergirl” was a flop.
What have "social scientists" done for us? Social and psychological "sciences" despite being front and center for decades have no real accomplishments, discoveries or inventions to their credit. They only have an endless series of replacing an older theory with a newer one over and over, and of course selling new articles, books, seminars and classes each time.
...and drugs.
Yes. Please let AOC run do. Let’s turn Kamala into Qué-buena in comparison.
Tressie is a rabid Diversitist. Most people are not similarly equivocal and inane.
They have well and truly jumped the ass.
I don't know anybody that calls a woman when their house is on fire. Where do they get this crazy shit? It's like their ideology overpowers every molecule of reason and facts, and their ideology is just wrong.
Wince - lol.
Women fail because they're set up to fail. Girl bosses never fail on their own. That's science!
All these ridiculous tropes that don't exist. "The Glass Ceiling" "The Glass Cliff" The glass cliff is invisible.
"If Trump had stuck to his knitting..."
Perfect example of what I'm saying. The idea is just stupid and backward. There has never been a President who has led a more active, engaged and accomplished life than Trump has. Six decades of it, and his Presidency has been even more so. Some people's thinking has no link to facts or reality.
So, what she's saying, ironically, is that Ocasio-Cortez should be frozen and sequestered until a later date. Karma-la.
Women, like blacks, have been fast-tracked to management and leadership positions for over 50 years. It seems like every other police chief is a woman or a black. Every other anchorman is woman. And the other one is black.
We have 4 women on the SCOTUS, and probably one - Kagan -deserves to be there.
There are definitely important things you call a woman for, but a fire? They can't even pee on it like man. We come with a built in fire hose. How awesome is that?
Women are underrepresented as CEO's because its an area that people really care about and peformance is important. IOW, its about $$$. Americans will put up with incompetent female helicopter pilots who get people killed, but they wont tolerate a CEO who tanks their stock price.
A dig at Newsom fiddled and Bass brayed a Diversity cacophony while LA burned.
Is the glass cliff where "burdens" are Planned... aborted, and their carbon is sequestered in darkness? Wicked.
glug glug glug
cant talk, I'm underwater
since 1999
I call Karen Bass when the house is on fire.
"Social scientists call it the glass cliff — the phenomenon in which women are recruited to lead failing companies." Ah, those social scientists, doing their social science thing very scientifically. Is the juxtaposition with the sociology-in-trouble post deliberate?
Occasional Cortex will be pimped - because BUT TRUMP!
X
"DSA Members Can’t Bring Themselves to Admit Cuba is a Dictatorship – Immediately Try to BUT TRUMP!
During a recent conversation with Latino journalist Jorge Ramos, high ranking members of the DSA turned into a stuttering mess when they were asked a simple question about whether or not Cuba is a dictatorship. HINT – It is.
They immediately try to make the issue about Trump and the blockade on Cuba, because they cannot answer this question honestly.
Ramos keeps trying to give them an opportunity to answer the question, pointing out that Cuba has not had real elections in decades, engages in all forms of censorship and has political prisoners, but they just won’t embrace the truth."
AOC is queen of that.
It is very rare for a member of the House to be elected President - especially a representative from a one-party district. ames Garfield was the last Congressman elected.
Good god is Thomas MaGoo Friedman back at the office?
AOC will just be Biden 2.0
… most of what I learned of ceo selection I learned from Welch- new hires are selected because there’s is the least hostile candidacy to the existing talent. Dumpster fires are different- a disproportionate number of women take the jobs because it’s a step up they probably wouldn’t get otherwise. None of that matches the nyt fantasies…
Love to turn to women when the house is burning down? As Ms. Cottom forgotten what a woman brand manager did for Bud Light? What a woman CEO did for Cracker Barrel? Sometimes the woman holds the match.
btw I’ve never heard use of the term glass cliff…
That’s the ticket!
Jupiter: McMillan Cottom is an associate professor in sociology at Chapel Hill. In 2020, the year of the George Floyd protests and peak anti-racism, she received a MacArthur "genius grant" for "shaping discourse on highly topical issues at the confluence of race, gender, education, and digital technology for broad audiences."
Of course the latter impresses the Times and other progressive media outlets, but this is the second opinion piece of hers that I have read from an Althouse link, and as with other commenters, I am not impressed.
And it seems highly likely she is exactly the kind of sociology professor whose politics come before the discipline, the topic of another Althouse link today. I'll pass on that one.
A recent Newsweek article has the better assessment: "Despite her large social media following and her significant fundraising ability, her 26 percent favorability rating trails the typical marks of nationally prominent politicians with presidential-level name recognition, who historically register positive ratings in the 40 to 50 percent range depending on the political environment."
The glass cliff toss is what the chi com /dem party do to grandma and grandpa - with the lab built virus.
I you want AOC but know she will fail, you have take the position that anyone would fail in the same situation.
"...Climate denialism..."
Ahahahaha! Not reading that nonsense.
“… Americans love to turn to women when the house is burning down.“ There is no evidence that this is generally true. In the limited cases where it is true there is no evidence that it is generally curative. In fairness, I will concede that AOC is sufficiently intellectually deficient and misguided to be the Democrats’ choice for POTUS.
As noted above, Karen Bass is the go-to person if you want a woman with Glass Cliff experience. She had the foresight to name three lesbians to direct the LA Fire Dept. It was a team effort, but she deserves most of the credit for the exemplary way that LA handled the house fires there. The Democrats can learn many useful lessons from her leadership during that crisis and, in particular, from the exemplary way she managed to win the primary vote.
Gilbar- it is an endless war when there is no end in sight and we have no exit strategy now other than we are going to wait them out. Meanwhile fuel prices are high which makes the cost of everything higher which means the republicans are going to their asses handed to them in November. This bullshit war has changed the way I feel about Trump and I know I am not the only one. The only thing that might save the republicans is the fact that the democrats have taken this opportunity to completely lose their mind by supporting socialsts.
Bud Light and Cracker Barrel were not "failing companies" or "failing brands," until the women involved drove them...well, not "off a cliff", but into a ditch.
I do like the Thelma and Louse reference, though. But burning houses and glass cliffs are very mixed metaphors.
"What is it about the left and propelling forward women who are not very bright?"
It's a big change from putting forward men who are not very bright.
ChrisC:
"" general scamminess of, well, everything " - You mean like Hunter Biden and the many scams of the Biden clan? You mean like the Clinton Foundation (possibly the biggest scam in the history of the world)? You mean the $100M+ fortune accumulated by Nancy Pelosi whose only job her whole life was to work for the governmen? You mean those scams, right?"
You left out USAID.
"... Americans love to turn to women when the house is burning down. Social scientists call it the glass cliff — the phenomenon in which women are recruited to lead failing companies."
Well, if we’re going over the cliff, I don’t mind if AOC goes first.
More red meat for NYT readers!
My guess is a hamster will walk off the edge of a glass table pretty much the same as any other table.
Black Democrats, who control their party's nomination, are never going to make a Latina their nominee. AOC is DOA.
Lawnerd: "Gilbar- it is an endless war when there is no end in sight and we have no exit strategy..."
Why do we need an exit strategy? We have our foot on the necks of both Iran and China, and it isn't costing us much in relative terms.
What do you think would happen to oil prices if Iran nuked Israel?
The "uncanny valley" has something to do with animation and AI. Maybe something to do with politics as well. Barack Obama was able to convince people that he was more natural, human, and relatable than John McCain or Mitt Romney. Kamala Harris had more trouble connecting with the electorate.
It has something to do with the "beer test." Young Bush seemed friendlier and more normal than the robotic Gore. Old Bonesman Bush actually seemed more relatable than the nerd Dukakis, though he lost out to Bill Clinton.
Middle America might want AOC to serve them a beer, but do they really think she is relatable? Is she another "uncanny" product of Habibi City without much appeal outside city (or at most state) limits.
I tried to think of any relatively high profile examples of where an electorate of any type got so exasperated that they decided to go with a female leader who succeeded in stopping the damage or reversing course. I could only come up with a single example- Margaret Thatcher but, of course, Cottom wouldn't agree with that one, would she?
The woman who came closest to being elected was at least had intelligence, gravitas, and experience. She as evil and corrupt, mind you, but at least she had those other things going for her. AOC does not viscerally read as anything but an attractive dolt who's good at social media. But nobody who has a job, a mortgage, and/or children is going to vote for her, and her brand of socialism, just because she's cute.
“ I don't know anybody that calls a woman when their house is on fire.”
How soon we forget, the Chief of the LA fire dept went on TV and said clearly that if you need me to come carry you out of a burning building, you got yourself in the wrong place. A man would have said, we will be there and help you as much as we can.
Companies hire women CEOs because they are failing? Like SpaceX??
And AOC has the Hillary problem, when you are no longer cute you have to transition to an adult, I don’t think she can do it, not that Hillary was ever very cute. Look at Mandami and El Sayed. They won’t be cute forever either.
An effective CEO is a steady hand who can keep the culture alive. I was working with an 80 year old company who wanted a woman CEO for display and defense purposes. She had huge parries at expensive venues for morale building and in 6 months the company was taken over.
Yes, I'll take 'Phony Delusions I Never Heard Of' for $800, Alex.
Could it be that the mindset that leads some organizations to turn to a woman in a crisis is what brought on the crisis in the first place?
"... Americans love to turn to women when the house is burning down...."
A feller might find he 'got himself in the wrong place if she has to carry him out of a fire.' - so to speak.
Fiorina and Whitman
Spent own fortune on California governor campaigns!!!
AOC can play Cleopatra in Lincoln Bedroom assignations.
"... Americans love to turn to women when the house is burning down.."
Probably the last person you want to turn to. I'm going to rely on the fire department.
There is no forever war, and most wars have no clear exit strategy until you are well into it. This is all just framing something as something it is not. There is no immediate need for us to end this operation. It's forcing alternatives the world should have built before this, but which are badly needed to remove vulnerabilities. This operation is simply well worth the cost, including the political cost to Trump, which is minimal. We have accepted higher prices for far less return.
Americans love to turn to [variable undefined] when the house is burning down.
baghdadbob said...
"..How many examples are there of "women being recruited to lead failing companies?.."
i THINK, what they are talking about; is the Large Number of brands (think Bud Light or Cracker Barrel), where women were recruited to FAIL leading companies. See? it was just a typo
Lawnerd said...
"... Meanwhile fuel prices are high.."
ummm, hello? compared to WHAT? or WHEN?
i bought fuel Yesterday, for $3.82/gal..
How much was it in 2022?
How much was it in 2008?
are you SURE that fuel prices are "high"?
https://www.macrotrends.net/datasets/3591/us-gasoline-prices
Okay, glass ceiling is a metaphor that makes sense. You can't rise anymore, because you are bumping your head into a ceiling you cannot see. It's a glass ceiling.
That's a great argument to inspire women. Hillary can't get to the White House because there's a glass ceiling. She has to break through the glass ceiling.
Glass cliff is a lousy idea. Now you've made it to the top spot. But it's a glass cliff. The ground underneath your feet is invisible. As long as you stay on the glass, you're fine. But if you step off the glass cliff, you fall into the ravine below.
I think this was in an Indiana Jones movie. If it's glass, you see the ravine below you. You see the dangers underneath your feet. What you can't see is the glass that you're walking on. I think?
Anyway, AOC doesn't actually have the job yet. She's still facing the glass ceiling! And the NYT columnist is jumping ahead, giving her the job, because the USA is such a dumpster fire that we want a woman in the White House so we can blame her for everything.
Does that argument make any sense whatsoever? Is there literally any person who will vote for AOC because they want to blame her for all the bad stuff that's going to happen in the future?
Jon Ossoff is not a bad suggestion at all. He might be too young. She'd be doubling up on the youth vote.
Good grief. Do you leftists recognize just how tedious you are?
Get some new material or STFU.
boatbuilder: "Why do we need an exit strategy? We have our foot on the necks of both Iran and China, and it isn't costing us much in relative terms." I was going to push back on the OP as well. 'Forever war' people are treating this like we have people on the ground in Iran doing nation building. This conflict, as of right now, is not comparable to Desert Storm, Enduring Freedom, or Iraqi Freedom. It is like the old trope about Vietnam Vets comparing everything to Vietnam (The Big Lebowski, for example).
You know who she really ought to pick?
The original Bernie bro. Joe Rogan.
An AOC-Rogan ticket would pose a lot of difficulties for Republicans. It would reclaim a lot of moderate ground the Woke democrats have lost. It would normalize the Democrat party, bring back free speech and liberty as democratic concepts, and cast the Democrats as the outsiders and Vance/Rubio as the insiders.
Rogan is a tremendous thinker and has a lot of insight. He's an out-of-the-box thinker and somebody who has revolutionized the media. Most important for AOC, he's clearly a man and a wild card.
She needs to make clear that she's not afraid. Her fear to go on the Joe Rogan show, like Kamala's fear, is ridiculous. If fear is your primary emotion, you will not make it to the White House. If you are afraid of conflict and avoid it, you shouldn't be in politics at all.
"An AOC-Rogan ticket would pose a lot of difficulties for Republicans. It would reclaim a lot of moderate ground the Woke democrats have lost. It would normalize the Democrat party, bring back free speech and liberty as democratic concepts, and cast the Democrats as the outsiders and Vance/Rubio as the insiders."
Your own description identifies why the Dems would never go for it: "Moderate," not "woke, "free speech" (really?) and "liberty." Also Rogan would want the top spot and would tell AOC what a dipshit she is within about 20 minutes.
"..It would reclaim a lot of moderate ground the Woke democrats have lost. It would normalize the Democrat party, bring back free speech and liberty as democratic concepts.."
They HAD a person that was PERFECT for this..
back in 2020.. remember? and remember what the dems did to her?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard#2020_presidential_campaign
The problem Democrats have with Tulsi Gabbard is she isn't a violent fascist piece of shit that wants to censor Democrat political opponents and murder Trump and hi supporters.
Yeah, I don't think Rogan could campaign for a manifesto that he didn't agree with 100% on every point. He has just spent too much time asking questions and using his reason on the answers. Some piece of the Dem platform, even if they just used Clinton 92 again, would rankle him. CC, JSM
I'd say that the Dems lack good candidates and good data. AOC has name recognition and the ability to endure politics. Nothing else. Compare the Republican bench - Vance, Rubio, DeSantis, Bessent - to name a few, with the unqualified AOC. Mamdani can't run. Walz is gone. Klobuchar takes anti-charisma to a whole new level. Who have they got?
Moreover, the complete failure of the polling in Wisconsin has to make the Dems wonder whether they know enough to make a good move.
Trump's problem is that he saved us from fighting Iran and China at once and it's hard for people to understand and be thankful for dangers averted. He made peace among most the states of the Middle East - something that is so incredible that it is completely ignored. Half of America is living well in the Red states which follow Trump's policies with regard to energy and taxes. Washington DC looks good again and crime has majorly dropped. Socialism was always going to be tried for awhile in America and it's our good fortune that it will be tried as a contrast to Trump's vigorous and successful capitalism. New York City v. Miami. New York state v. Florida. Even AOC's mother thinks Florida is better than New York state. Lower cost of living, lower taxes, better weather, Hispanic style everywhere. NYC has madmen on the street and socialists in City Hall; it's broke and dirty and getting worse for everyone but the Socialist Party members who are seizing property for themselves and getting richer - as in Russia, as in China, as in Cuba.
@wildswan said.
What do you make of alliance Turkiye Pakistan Saudi?
Egypt may also join
There are plenty of successful Fortune 500 firms with female CEOs. If all of them are on a glass cliff then US big business is in big trouble because the number of Fortune 500 firms with female CEOs is up to 55, or 11% of the total.
More likely, females have been put in charge of large firms and made some significant mistakes (e.g., Carly Fiorina) and unlike Hewlett Packard there was no way for the firm to recover. But before I become excited about the glass cliff hypothesis, I’d like to see the percent of women who take over weak companies and fail versus the percent of men who do likewise. My guess is that the percentages are not particularly different.
As to nominating AOC because the US is in trouble, anybody (male or female) would surely fail regardless, and so it doesn’t matter, well US politics doesn’t work that way. It isn’t universal, but often enough the public turns to Republicans to salvage the sinking ship. The public didn’t try that approach in Detroit, and they aren’t going to get that chance in Chicago, California, or Colorado, but Giuliani in New York City and DeSantis in Florida are relatively recent examples of the pattern.
"Lawnerd said...
"... Meanwhile fuel prices are high.."
ummm, hello? compared to WHAT? or WHEN?
i bought fuel Yesterday, for $3.82/gal..
How much was it in 2022?
How much was it in 2008?
are you SURE that fuel prices are "high"?"
Totally agree. Under Obama, gas prices reached a high of above $4.00 per gallon in 2011/2012. In today's dollars, that translates to $5.94 at his high, quite a bit higher than even when the Strait of Hormuz was shut down this year.
I was going to offer up Carly Fiorina as an example, but I actually have no idea how HP was doing when she assumed the position.
If AOC gets the nomination we could see the first Hispanic President.
Particularly if her opponent is Marco Rubio.
She will egg-ucate the country.
wildswan : "the complete failure of the polling in Wisconsin"
Be fair - how do you poll a flash drive ?
“ And AOC has the Hillary problem, when you are no longer cute you have to transition to an adult, I don’t think she can do it, not that Hillary was ever very cute. Look at Mandami and El Sayed. They won’t be cute forever either.”
Well, I don’t think that AOC will ever be able to meet Crooked Hillary’s level of corruption and blind ambition. A lot out recently about the origins of RussiaGate. And, as I have long suspected, it was counter programming for Crooked Hillary’s email scandal - where she had used a private insecure, illegal, email server to conduct all of her business while Secretary of State. She had done it, to prevent her opponents from seeing that she had been running the State Department as a massive Pay for Play scheme, through FOIA requests. It might not have been that horrible if the Secretary of State didn’t deal routinely with highly classified information. The Russians (and likely China and Israel too) appear to have hacked her email server fairly early on, and by the end were apparently receiving her emails in real time - sometimes reading them before she did. And they included a lot of bombing targets in Afghanistan and Iraq that had to be pre-approved by the State Department. All to hide what she was doing to make money for their Clinton foundation.
This was a massive scandal - trading national security for hundreds of millions of dollars. (The Bidens were amateurs, in comparison, with the money they were taking from Ukraine and China). And was starting to hurt her in the polls. So, one of her staffers realized that the only way to overcome this scandal was to attach a bigger scandal to Trump. Which turned out to be RussiaGate. And which Clinton personally approved in early summer of 2016.
And we now know that fervent Clinton supporter Lisa Page convinced her lover, Peter Strzok to corrupt the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division to make RussiaGate work. Under FBI Director Patel and DD Bongino, upwards of half its professional staff have been fired or transferred since the first of this year.
My point with that rehash, is that I don’t see AOC having the blind greed and ambition necessary to pull something like that off. Clinton did. She thought nothing of destroying the FBI’s and DOJ’s national security organizations to get elected. But, then she had also risked the lives of American Pilots over Iraq and Afghanistan., and probably Pakistani, in order to hide her pay to play graft scheme as Secretary of State. Her venality even eclipsing the comparable amount of money that the Pelosis made with insider information, when she was Speaker.
I think also though that AOC isn’t nearly as smart as Crooked Hillary. Clinton is a YLS grad, married to another YLS grad (and Rhodes scholar). YLS being at the time the #1 or #2 rated law school in the country.
I think that Karen Bass is a good example of why putting a woman in charge of a large organization is a good way of destroying that organization. A lot of women don’t seem to be able to adequately prioritize. She put DEI women in charge of the fire department, then all of them just pretended that the LAFD failed miserably with the fires, looking the other way, when the Palisades burned to the ground. Not their problem. Their problem was getting as many women installed in high places. Competence be damned. Her city has turned into a shit hole under her watch, and she doesn’t seem to care, and hasn’t done anything to turn it around. All it took was stacks of fake mail in ballots to get her another four years.
Your own description identifies why the Dems would never go for it: "Moderate," not "woke, "free speech" (really?) and "liberty."
The main Republican attack point on the socialist movement is that it's Marxist and Communist. If you're going to identify as a Socialist and win the White House, you need to reassure the USA that you're a democratic socialist. You need to reassure the USA that you like our Constitution, that you like free speech and equal protection. You need to make clear that it's an economic criticism, and not an attempt to wipe out our system of government.
Adding Joe Rogan to your ticket does that, in spades. I think she would maybe lose some trans voters (they hate Rogan with a passion), but that's a tiny minority of people. And remember, AOC has already dropped her pronouns and said that "Woke 1 was crazy."
Rogan is dangerous because he's a Bernie bro. He voted for Bernie Sanders in 2020! I suspect he also voted for Trump in 2024. What that says to me is that Rogan is a populist and he doesn't care for the entrenched powers. He genuinely wants to help the American people.
An AOC/Rogan ticket is a double-dose of Bernie socialism, with younger people. Bernie has been on Rogan's show twice, once in 2019 and again in 2025.
It's not unthinkable for AOC to go on Joe Rogan's show. That would be following in Bernie's footsteps. Avoiding his show is the Kamala Harris move (stupid).
Also Rogan would want the top spot and would tell AOC what a dipshit she is within about 20 minutes.
Nah. He's not running, so there is a zero percent chance that he would get the top spot. As for the vice-presidency, he'd have to consider it. Wouldn't you?
The way to test it is to have AOC on his show. I would watch it. Rogan is an open-minded dude and he is always respectful to his guests.
I don't think Rogan could campaign for a manifesto that he didn't agree with 100% on every point. He has just spent too much time asking questions and using his reason on the answers. Some piece of the Dem platform, even if they just used Clinton 92 again, would rankle him.
You might be right. He might push back on the Green New Deal, for instance. She might not want to legalize marijuana in all 50 states. It's a ticket that could implode before it goes anywhere. But it would really balance out her ticket, while simultaneously giving Democrat voters a double-dose of socialism, and pro-choice politics, and two populist people with very strong name recognition. The man could literally campaign from his house.
Major weaknesses for AOC
no executive experience
no foreign experience
no accomplishments in the House
too Woke for the USA
not married
no children
too young
On paper, she's a ridiculous candidate. Her resume is insufficient, right? But I think J.D. Vance was right to identify her as somebody the Democrats might nominate. The media is in the bag for her, obviously. It's possible she wipes out in the debates. But it's also possible that she rides a youthful socialist wave to the White House. I could see a path for her, if she avoids falling off the glass cliff.
I searched the comments for "Bud Light" and "Cracker Barrel".
No joy.
Imagine that.
This Bernie clip just infuriates me. He wants to pretend like "the oligarchs" are running the government. When the truth is, people in the government are running the government. That's where the real power is. And the state seizing the shares of Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Tesla, that's not going to empower anybody except the people in the government.
"In the Soviet Union, which you visited a dozen times, including on your honeymoon, sir, the only rich people are the people in the government. You seize these assets, you impoverish everybody. I do not think the federal government ought to be running Amazon, and Apple, and Google, and Facebook, and Walmart, and Tesla. We did not create these businesses and we would run them badly. Your urge to concentrate power in the hands of a very few government actors is a horrible idea, sir. It's the Soviet state all over again."
Socialism is a dangerous ideology, even without all the woke bullshit that is now going along with it. Economically, it's a disaster.
AOC as presidential nominee is truly "burning down the house". Burn baby burn, for sure. AOC has also become a millionaire while serving in US House, odd isn't it?
Bernie is our Stalin, hrmphing about "oligarchs" while enjoying his questionable millions in fraudulent real estate deals of his wife's doing. Bernie, hiding behind that cranky old man persona, is our Soros, intent upon bringing Americans to their knees, to allow Democratic Socialists to control the Democratic Party while we Americans still think "politics" is just another benign version of "Cubs vs Sox" and "Mets vs Yankees" tribalism of near-identical team-player affiliations.
It's very interesting that Hong received zero state Dem Party support (in Wisconsin, #1 state Dem Party contributor is Soros, #2 is Illinois Gov JB Pritzker), nor national Dem PArty support (booed by Axelrod, Sanders, AOC, etc). Equally interesting that anointed Dem Party candidate who won last week's primary, tiny guy Crowley, has more personal baggage than Hong had, and no campaign platform other than "Gov Evers picked me!". Evers held his hand 24/7 in last 10 days of primary run, doing campaign stops hip-to-hip with a largely silent Crowley.
Oh vey, we are in deep trouble.
My quote at 7:27 is something Bessent should have said. Instead, he gave some wishy-washy polite response. He avoided the question, really.
Why would you avoid it? It's not difficult to respond to the "oligarchy" charge. Socialism is worse, way worse, and it always has been. Corporations do not run our society. At best, they do so indirectly.
People going crazy about Trump (or Biden, or Obama, or Bush, or Clinton) have one thing right: the president is the most powerful person in our country. By far. You want to make our country more democratic? Rein in the government.. That's where the real power lies.
I would love to see polling on this question. "Who's more powerful in our society, the government, or the corporations?" That would give us a better idea of how many dumb voters we have now. How many kids have been indoctrinated with this crap?
Let me put it another way...
When Trump was a billionaire in the private sector? Nobody gave a shit about him. He was no danger to anybody.
When Trump was in the White House? Everybody freaked the fuck out.
"You've got three people on top: Mr. Musk, Mr. Bezos, Mr. Zuckerberg."
It's dishonest in the extreme to suggest that these three people are the most powerful people in our country. He's obsessed with money, so he's just counting up the richest three people.
But if you're measuring powerful? The vast majority of them are in the government. If you're babbling about an "oligarchy," and here's the definition...
An oligarchy is a form of government where power rests with a small, elite group of people.
That describes the the President, the United States Supreme Court, and the Congress. Way more than it describes a secret cabal of billionaires. Spare us your money-counting horseshit, Commie.
The Supreme Court had an oligarchy over abortion policy for 49 years.
AOC and Bernie both cried out loud when the Supreme Court gave up its oligarchy rule over our abortions laws, and let federalism handle it instead.
Bruce, as an aside -- if this was actually the case:
> they included a lot of bombing targets
> in Afghanistan and Iraq that had to be
> pre-approved by the State Department.
... then the people running both the military and State are insane beyond redemption.
Burning Down the House: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3eC35LoF4U
AOC’s white outfit she wore sobbing next to the fence would fit right in.
"President Trump’s businessman brand of governance has many Americans feeling this nation is failing. I suppose the dumpster fire of climate denialism..."
The left's bleating about "climate denialism," tells me that President Trump’s businessman brand of governance has this nation on the path toward healing and thriving.
Maybelline Marxist is perfect. But she ain't wearing Maybelline any more. Dior, at the very least.
Imagine hearing that voice in ad after ad, speech after speech.
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