Writes Senator John Fetterman to President Trump, quoted in
"Fetterman calls on Trump to fire Noem: 'Americans have died'" (The Hill).
When I first read that line — "Americans have died" — I thought he meant to say the entire nation has lost its soul.
But he meant the simpler, concrete reality: Renee Good and Alex Pretti have died.
There's also this:
"Trump Holds 2-Hour Meeting With Noem Amid Backlash to Minneapolis Shooting" (NYT): "The meeting came after Ms. Noem requested to see the president.... Ms. Noem has been the face of the administration’s immigration crackdown, and she has been among the most vocal in spreading false accusations against Mr. Pretti, including labeling him a 'domestic terrorist.' The Oval Office meeting also included several of Mr. Trump’s top aides.... The meeting came the same day Mr. Trump announced he was sending Tom Homan, his border czar, to oversee the operation in Minneapolis. The move was seen as a way to elevate an official who is steeped in Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s longstanding practice of prioritizing targeted arrests, rather than the kinds of sweeping raids that the Trump administration has carried out in cities across the country."
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 369 of 369In actuality, I kind of support the left in this, somewhat, in their demands to have ICE leave Minnesota. I would do it. Put them all on the borders of every road in and out of the state, and along a ten mile stretch of the border with Canada, at the airports. Make sure no illegal leaves the state, but then give them free rein and refuse to help with any illegal in the state. Cut off all federal funding for Minnesota, and to make Democrat dreams really come true, just transfer all violent illegals from all over the country and let them go in Minneapolis. No more deportations! Every Democrat in Minnesota can enjoy, fully, all of the illegal rapists, murderers, etc. that they so desperately love.
What's not to like about this plan? Everyone gets what they want except the fraudsters!
He was an agitator. He is responsible for his own stupid actions.
"The earlier incident started when he stopped his car after observing ICE agents chasing what he described as a family on foot, and began shouting and blowing his whistle, according to a source who asked not to be named out of fear of retribution.
Pretti later told the source that five agents tackled him and one leaned on his back – an encounter that left him with a broken rib. The agents quickly released him at the scene."
https://lite.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs
Is Noem "grossly incompetent"? I have to say that ICE seems to have operated successfully and quietly when and where local law enforcement cooperates. The issues are with local leaders and "sanctuary cities". I'd say that the jury is still out as to whether Noem is "incompetent" much less "grossly incompetent". Mayorkas was a liar faithfully spouting the Biden party line. To the extent that we learned to believe our own lying eyes, Mayorkas was not a competent liar.
Did John Fetterman ever publicly criticize Mayorcas?
Google AI: Based on the search results, there is no evidence that Senator John Fetterman has publicly criticized Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.
The search results indicate that while Fetterman has frequently criticized members of his own party (the "far-left" or "progressive" wing) and has expressed concerns regarding the handling of immigration-related protests in Los Angeles, he has not made public statements targeting Mayorkas.
Instead, the results highlight Fetterman's:
Criticism of the Progressive Left: Blasting NYC mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani as "not even a Democrat".
Support for Border Security: Calling for stronger border security and stricter penalties for undocumented immigrants who commit crimes, aligning him closer to some Republican views on the issue.
Criticism of "Anarchy": Condemning actions in Los Angeles, stating that Democrats lose the "moral high ground" when they refuse to condemn violence.
Support for Israel: Defining his political stance around strong support for Israel.
The search results show no mention of Mayorkas in relation to Fetterman's. (sic).
A nurse, huh. A leftist. Probably Pro-Choice. Pretti stupid.
Ciso: "Hundreds of Somali owned businesses are on the verge of bankruptcy"
How can they be bankrupt? To be bankrupt, you need creditors. To have creditors, you need to have bought stuff for your business. To have bought stuff for your business, you need to have actually been doing business.
I mean I think the 20 bus services operating out of the same Mailbox Etc can probably split the rent without going broke....CC, JSM
And who launches a guided SUV against an armed opponent? Pretty stupid.
Vance: the one weakness of your plan is that in the 2030 census, Minnesota would get 100 electoral votes from that huge population of illegals. CC, JSM
Original Mike said...
"Mostly correct but there are a faction of people who do want mass deportations. They, like Trump said, want all of them out."
You mean the people who are here illegally? A majority of Americans want them deported.
I agree that the majority of Americans want people here illegally deported, myself included.
I also think there’s a lot of people who want “all of them” deported and are using a fabricated premise of “illegal” or “criminal” as permission. It’s not about a crime but rather about who they are.
I think that the majority of Americans have soured on ICE and seeing non-criminals neighbors and co-workers disappeared.
My bigger point is this past weekend exposed to them that American citizens were being beaten and killed while Trump officials blatantly lied to their faces.
The majority recognized the lie because it conflicted with what they saw with their own eyes and were concerned with all along. It proved what they feared.
Those who want them all out couldn’t recognize the lie and are even still parroting it, stand behind or refuse to disavow it because it impedes with that goal.
They just want their brown asses out of here. Every damn one of them.
Howard.
That was dumb, even for you. Do better.
So I wonder if any one of our leftists will care to tell us if they disagree with the recent spate of nurses and medical care people, all of whom are deranged leftists, announcing that they will poison or murder any ICE agent who they run across, or kill their babies if their wives go into labor.
Inga? Howard? Kak? Ronald? Dinky? Do you support the cold blooded murder of ICE agents like the leftists on your side, who are actual Nurses and health care professionals, are advocating?
https://x.com/0hour1/status/2016210325448663094
True, John, the massive electoral increase would bite... but it would also be followed by a massive electoral decrease in California and other commie states as their electoral population was relocated to Minnesota, and all of the now dead leftists in Minnesota, killed by their beloved illegals after being raped and tortured to death, wouldn't count.
Plus, with no government funding, and the state of danger, how could we send any census workers to try to count such a dangerous population? We'd have to just estimate from the last census....
If 49 states are cooperating with ICE more or less successfully, why would a majority of Americans fault ICE for the chaos, rather than the policies of the one State that is experiencing the chaos? The problem seems pretty localized…. Plus the other states are experiencing improvements related to crime, which is no small thing.
"So I wonder if any one of our leftists will care to tell us if they disagree with the recent spate of nurses and medical care people, all of whom are deranged leftists, announcing that they will poison or murder any ICE agent who they run across, or kill their babies if their wives go into labor."
Oh you sweet retarded child. This is something tgat never happened. How stupid are you? You really think actual licensed medical professionals will "announce" they intend to commit murder?
You might wanna fact check that one. 🤦 trumptards will believe anything that serves their delusions.
’They just want their brown asses out of here. Every damn one of them.’
I know one brown ass legal immigrant from Jamaica who wants them all out of here. She’s pissed that it took her years and thousands of dollars to become a legal citizen, and she greatly resents those who did otherwise. So the color of one’s ass is immaterial, although hers is very nice…
Vance at 2:30, no, I certainly don’t support that at all.
With that hopefully cleared up, could you elaborate on this “spate” of medical people allegedly advocating such. Are these claims coming from PowerLine, GatewayPundit or such because I’m generally interested in expressing my views.
All I’m finding is that there is an investigation into a specific nurse who made threats against federal immigration agents.
Just like those 'innocent' al queda that all happened to go through training camps,
Mayorkas was super competent. He did exactly what he was supposed to do.
West Chicago Elementary School Teacher Placed on Administrative Leave for Facebook Post in Support of ICE Operations | The New York Sun https://share.google/unmxkFGiBx0z6ZDGj
When one is dealing with these Star Wars bar cretins, some eggs will get broken:
https://x.com/i/status/2015896009390329876
Werent they in the first men in black film
Until then we have to file this under the "Americans who were deported hoax".
Hoax? Another one? There's a list of hoaxes here.
How many of them do you remember?
"They just want their brown asses out of here. Every damn one of them."
Credit where credit is due- those fine folks on Martha's Vineyard did a great job of rounding those brown asses up and shipping them out.
Theres your sign vizzini
x.com/libsoftiktok/status/2015941489516245223/video/1 https://share.google/gv2gVQnmfmXXIrlLX
“So I wonder if any one of our leftists will care to tell us if they disagree with the recent spate of nurses and medical care people, all of whom are deranged leftists, announcing that they will poison or murder any ICE agent who they run across, or kill their babies if their wives go into labor.”
Vance believes that medical professionals would risk losing their licenses, jobs, reputation in the community, etc. this is fake, somebody may have said something like this but they weren’t representative of nurses or doctors. Libs of TikTok or some other right wing group may be trying to rile up the gullible base again.
Vance needs to take a walk in reality and breath the fresh air outside of his head.
Like your hamas buddies who were tearing down hostage posters
Narciso is talking to himself again…
Inga Schminga, brain on Rumspringa
Lexie Lawler — Boca Raton, FL — 2026
Nicole M. Hart — Philadelphia, PA — 2024
Laura Krolczyk — Buffalo, NY — 2020
Ace of Spades has an entire post of leftist nurses announcing their deranged violent wishes, with names and posts. I note that Inga and the rest are trying to say "who you gonna believe? us or your own lying eyes? All Democrats are always and forever virtuous at all times!"
One case, a nurse from VCUHealth posted a video where she is fantasizing about all the things she and others could do to ICE agents they came in contact with. She is not well, imho. I believe she has been put on admin leave since being outed.
There was another maternity nurse who wished egregious harm would come to Karoline Leavitt, who is pregnant. I believe she is also currently facing some consequences.
There were reports that agents needing medical assistance were denied care somewhere in MN, too. I forget where that was.
I bet Inga, Ronald, Kak, etc. support Governor Walz claiming that every single illegal alien is just like Anne Frank and every ICE officer is the Nazis hauling them off to be put into ovens. Democrat on Jake Tapper said the same thing: ICE is putting people into ovens.
Surely Inga and the rest fully agree that this is the kind of rhetoric America needs right now to "calm the tensions." Right? Or do you want to provide the evidence for these claims by elected leftists and leftist commentators?
And how do we know these “nurses” are truly on the left and not just pretending to be to cause gullible heads to explode?
False flag nasty nurses, yeah that's the ticket
I’ve long thought that Drago was Vance. Very similar style of commenting, accusing, lying about commenters and events, etc. I don’t think our poor Drago succumbed to his serious illness, I think for some reason he had to drop the Drago persona and stick to just one account-Vance. Drago was actually not as wildly hair on fire loony as Vance, but the similarities are unmistakable.
So- the left is still supporting illegal alien rapists and murderers, I see.
Same as it ever was.
No, Inga, I'm not Drago. And I note you never, ever respond when you are accurately called out, such as yesterday when you refused to condemn your side screaming at children they were going to hell because they went to a church where a person who works at ICE also attends. That is just fine with you, apparently.
And you refuse to say why you supported Obama and Biden's admins murdering Lavoy Finicum and Craig Robertson all while you run around with your hair on fire at ICE defending themselves from attacks by your terrorist leftist buddies.
I've read your comments for a very long time, Inga, and you are a raging leftist who loves violence when it's aimed at people on the right. And you defend every Democrat violent act, every Democrat immoral act, every single time. Like these nurses. "They must be hidden right wingers!"
Next you'll claim that when Governor Walz says all illegals are just like Anne Frank and all ICE people are Nazis, Walz is really a hidden Republican. Right?
Whatever you say Drag…er I mean Unknown, no I mean Vance.
So that's a "Yes, I support all of that" then. Because you refuse to take a stand against any of it. And once more, I am not Drago. He did have an accurate summary of you, the only commentator Althouse has repeatedly banned besides Chuck.
Well Unknown, I’m sure I’d disavow that as well if it was something Walz actually said rather than The Ace of Spades or whoever telling that’s what he meant.
I too have compared ICE to the Gestapo, mainly because the’ve done so many Gestapo like things. It doesn’t exactly help the ICE image when the leaders continue to dress like Nazis and use Nazis quotes. I guess that’s a wink wink to those who want them to Make America White Again.
No one made them profess their evil
Ronald, I wonder why you refuse to believe actual video of Walz saying it? https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2015511096166142245
Direct quote: "Many of us grew up reading that story of Anne Frank. Somebody's going to write that children's story about Minnesota."
Now you tell us what he is saying, except all Illegals are Anne Frank (something the actual US Holocaust museum today condemned Walz for--do you want to blame them now too?). And you just went along with them. ICE is the Gestapo motivated by race.
When did that happen? Every single deportation of rapist illegal is only because ICE wants to make America white, that's the ticket! Obama ordering ICE to deport people, via his person Tom Holman (the same guy Trump is using!) -- Obama was making America White Again! So says Ronald J. Ward, because deporting anyone is racist and only Gestapo does that.
What a bigot and hater you are, Chuck .
The coming fight about who to count in the 2030 census and how to reapportion the number of Representatives for each state is critical to the Dems. They need to whip the cult into as state of frenzy. If only US citizens are counted the Dems stand to lose 30 or more seats. Whip 'em up. Whip 'em up hard.
Useful idiots.
Somewhat OT: While it shouldn't have, Jefferies' threat that the Dems are going to come after Trump supporters in a big way if they win in 2028 was a bit of an eye opener. Leadership and their masters are desperate cornered animals right now. It's going to get much weirder.
I think Trump should wind down the operation in Minneapolis.
No. A thousand times NO! Because if he does, they'll start up this crap in every other shithole city.
No. You can't give these fuckers an inch.
Illegal with a deportation order. Or illegal and homicidal, rapist, groomer, groper, redistributive changer, etc, are all viable subjects for enforcement, repatriation to their home nations. Why are accessories to their crimes so xenophobic? Nurse wretched engaged in affirmative actionion to harass, confront while armed with a deadly weapon. His Choice.
MSNBC Airs Fake Photo of Dead "Protester" Alex Pretti, Modified by AI to Make Him Look More Masculine, Handsome, and Heroic https://share.google/E1pt1a5YSpsmqYcaa
Here’s one of those scheisse for brains nurses…
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/2015941489516245223?s=20
"No. A thousand times NO! Because if he does, they'll start up this crap in every other shithole city."
There needs to be consequences for those who are ordering these leftist morons to riot and paying them to do it. That'd go a long way towards ending this crap.
Unknown, I don’t refuse to believe what Walz said. I just don’t buy your interpretations of it.
Many of his audience grew up in Minnesota? Likely true. That someday, someone will write a comparison of the atrocities of American citizens or immigrants who’ve committed no crimes with the fate of Anne Frank? I can see that.
I’m not hearing that all illegals are Anne Frank. And I’ve never said or suggested that deporting anyone is racists. I’ve expressed an approval of arresting and deporting illegal immigrants multiple times. Where I differ is defining who is legal and who isn’t. That’s something that none of the Trumpers here seem to want to engage in. And I’ve laid out my hypothesis clearly which too, goes often ignored.
I never said deporting people is only something the Gestapo would do. I simply pointed out how their actions, statements, gestures, signage, and even clothing has sure energized a lot of people who support Gestapo things.
Real simple question for the leftists. If leftist agitators set up a "protest" and it's designed to be violent and attack ICE people, do you support that, and is it ok for ICE to defend themselves against violent leftists who go to the "protest" knowing they are going to riot and attack the ICE personnel? And is it ok for the Feds to arrest the leftists planning this violent "protest"/ riot/ insurrection?
Noem is incompetent and completely discredited after her account of Pretti and his death was entirely contradicted by the videos of it. She should be fired immediately.
Thiz bastard loves Communist China which has sent 10s of millions to concentration camps
"No. A thousand times NO! Because if he does, they'll start up this crap in every other shithole city."
Every video I see of the riots looks like a three year old who didn't get his way. Noisemaking and impeding,, the adult version of screaming and kicking. I guess they never got told no as children.
We want our law enforcement officers to be super-human in ability to discern in split second, between threat of literal swift death from mere injury risks, in tense chaotic circumstances.
Don't want to be shot, don't aim your deadly weapon at law enforcement officer. Don't throw or point objects at them. Don't attempt to run them over with your big SUV. Don't reach for your pistol when asked for your ID. Mind your distance while you peacefully protest.
Hes a wretchec piece of filth
When an election comes along (you must whip 🆙)
Before Somalis stay too long (you must whip 🆙)
When yo dream has gone quite wrong (you must whip 🆙)
Walz too
"We want our law enforcement officers to be super-human in ability to discern in split second, between threat of literal swift death from mere injury risks, in tense chaotic circumstances."
Why shouldn't trained, paid rioters also be expected to discern in split second, between threat of literal swift death from mere injury risks, in tense chaotic circumstances?
Free riposte for any R who wants it: You know who is hiding in homes like Anne Frank? Little children in the barrio whose parents don't want them going out on the streets ruled by MS13 and TDA. Little black children sleeping in bathtubs as armor against random bullets from gang drivebys, after 4 years of BLM's Defund The Police. That's who's like Anne Frank.
I don't know why no one in MAGA-world has said this already. CC, JSM
I’m not hearing that all illegals are Anne Frank. And I’ve never said or suggested that deporting anyone is racists. I’ve expressed an approval of arresting and deporting illegal immigrants multiple times. Where I differ is defining who is legal and who isn’t. That’s something that none of the Trumpers here seem to want to engage in. And I’ve laid out my hypothesis clearly which too, goes often ignored.
I never said deporting people is only something the Gestapo would do. I simply pointed out how their actions, statements, gestures, signage, and even clothing has sure energized a lot of people who support Gestapo things.
LOL! Keep weaseling. At this point you are engaged in an argument with yourself. The people who get off on "Gestapo things" and see "Gestapo" in basic immigration law enforcement are the people currently doing so. You and your buddy Timmy.
I see lots of videos of willful destruction of private property, damage of Federal and municipal government property,, and incredibly badly behaved protestors attempting to injure law enforcement officers while screaming incredibly foul and menacing words.
A giant distraction from ongoing investigation of massive state welfare fraud and organized criminal fraud amongst noncitizens in Minnesota. To think a year ago, Walz would have been mere heartbeat from presidency.
And this may be the Chuckiest thing you have ever stated, Chuck:
I agree that the majority of Americans want people here illegally deported, myself included.
I also think there’s a lot of people who want “all of them” deported and are using a fabricated premise of “illegal” or “criminal” as permission. It’s not about a crime but rather about who they are.
Right up there with "Life long Republican."
I do miss Drago.
That fucking Border Patrol uniform has been in use for at least 30 years, because that's when I first saw it at FLETC. It's probably much older than that. So did the Clinton, W, Obama, Trump 45, Autopen, and Trump 47 admins all approve having their border guards run around in Nazi coats? Or has there been a secret Nazi cult in Border Patrol hiding their cosplay in plain sight for over 30 years, including from their majority-minority workforce and all their Democrat-appointee civilian masters? Don't think so.
They also have a Sam Browne belt and an Ike jacket in their clothing bag. I guess they're cosplaying Brits and Eisenhower, too? Jeez....CC, JSM
Renee Good and Alex Pretti were murdered.
OK, Cookie.
I'm going to give you a gun. And then you're going to stand in front of my truck. It's a nice, big Ford half-ton. 5.8 liter, 351. 4WD, too ... in case I didn't finish the job, needed to back up and then run you over again.
I gun the engine and make contact with you. In response, you shoot me and kill me.
That makes you a murderer, right?
Right?
"It’s not about a crime but rather about who they are."
Martha's Vineyard leftists nod their heads and agree wholeheartedly.
How can they be bankrupt? To be bankrupt, you need creditors. To have creditors, you need to have bought stuff for your business. To have bought stuff for your business, you need to have actually been doing business.
I don't think that all of those Lamborghini "Executive Transportation Expenses" were fully paid for.
“Right up there with "Life long Republican."
I do miss Drago.”
I think we all do.
Gotta love Chuck. "I fully support deporting all illegals! And who gets to define illegals? Why, I do! And the only people who are illegal are Republicans! Deport them all! All the child rapists and murderers can stay as long as they vote straight "D" though!"
Unknown said...
“Real simple question for the leftists. If leftist agitators set up a "protest" and it's designed to be violent and attack ICE people, do you support that….”
Of course not. Same would apply to right wing agitators.
“ is it ok for ICE to defend themselves against violent leftists who go to the "protest" knowing they are going to riot and attack the ICE personnel?”
I’m thinking “don’t do it Ron, it’s a trap”. But….
If there’s intelligence suggesting a planned assault was going to happen, that should be nipped in the bud, arrest and remove. If an assault occurs, yes, arrest by whatever means needed and remove. Now if an officer sees someone who they think has some scheme to assault, unless you clarify, not so much.
“And is it ok for the Feds to arrest the leftists planning this violent "protest"/ riot/ insurrection?”
I’m not sure where a “violent protest” doesn’t become a riot but as long as we’re within the parameters of a legal protest, no. A “riot”, I’m still on the fence of leaving that up to local government without local request from the Feds. But in this case, the unwelcome Feds are the agitators but again, I would say the Feds would have to put out the fire they started. On an “insurrection”? That too has taken a vague description but absolutely, just as it should apply to Trumpers too. I would just hope some idiot doesn’t pardon them down the road.
Unknown @ 5:07, the fact that you gave your interpretation of my quote as a factual quote proves all I need to know, well, actually, knew.
Off to the waste bin with Achillies and Peachies you go.
Ha, glad to see you confirmed that the "Ronald . Ward" name is actually Chuck back from the dead. We all knew, but at least this is the first time I've seen you confirm it was you.
And I just summarized your position. What was it your side calls this kind of thing? Oh yes... "Fake but accurate!" Entirely, 100% leftist approved position. It's not like you disagree with what I attributed to you. You said your only quibble with deporting is who is considered an illegal. How is that in dispute? Unless you think that actual illegals are not in fact illegal, and that raises the question of who IS worthy of deporting. And you've made it perfectly clear how much you despise Republican and Trump voters in your past Chuck self.
So no, I don't think my "quote" was inaccurate at all. It reflects your positions rather well in a succinct form. Like I said, "Fake but accurate" as all good leftists agree is the standard.
Now we have this that our leftists will no doubt cheer on.
Democrat Ohio Attorney General candidate Elliot Forhan says he is going to “kill Donald Trump” if he’s elected.
“I want to tell you what I mean when I say that I am going to kill Donald Trump,” the former Ohio state representative said.
Planned Presidenthood (PP)? He is subjectively, objectively a "burden". Sure, why not. All's fair in lust and abortion.
Trump is feeling the massive political backlash. Greg Bovino has been demoted and allowed to “retire.” Kristi Noem and her advisor/boyfriend, Corey Lewandowski, are reportedly at risk of losing their jobs contrary to Trump's statements.
Polling was showing Trump’s approval rating hovering near all-time lows before this. Now it will sink even lower and Republicans with him.
Dumber than chuck if possible
From here: https://x.com/AmericaPapaBear/status/2015452150806294715?s=20
Liberals and the media:
“Oh my God, ICE k*lled a nurse! How could they do that?”
Laken Riley was a nursing student who was k*lled by people Pretti was defending.
No one believes your scat not even you Rich
JBill Melugin on X: "NEW: @FoxNews has learned that Patrick J. Schiltz, the Minnesota federal judge who is threatening to hold ICE Director Todd Lyons in contempt of court & is ordering him to appear in court on Friday, appears in a 2019 list of donors & volunteers for the Immigrant Law Center of https://t.co/yBzst713Pf" / X https://share.google/XR9ekm6B0wGcSIaY3
"appears in a 2019 list of donors & volunteers for the Immigrant Law Center"
When it comes to banana republics, the US is top banana.
’And I’ve never said or suggested that deporting anyone is racists.’
And earlier on this thread Ronald says:
‘They just want their brown asses out of here.’
‘Make America White Again’
So glad you’re not saying or suggesting anything is racist!! lol
Chuck sometimes loses track as he switches back and forth between various AI platforms to churn his raw input into RJW-style finished content.
Like the Times he doesnt read his own material
Minneapolis has done it right -- keeping protests peaceful but also relentless and well organized.
It makes me laugh when administration officials and their supporters bray online about "the leftist networks financed by billionaires" that are making these actions happen. It's like they've never been to a charity event or PTA meeting or a kids' sports banquet.
Laken Riley was a nursing student who was k*lled by people Pretti was defending.
Nurse wretched et al were not only Pretti stupid, but accessories to their crimes after the fact.
Beast, ‘They just want their brown asses out of here.’ And “ ‘Make America White Again’, particularly in the context you presented, is not a statement from me that deporting someone is racist.
The desperation from the defenders of the empire is rather remarkable when the empire falters. Not unique as I’ve seen this movie before. Yet, remarkable.
Schiltz et al, too. Emigration reform Now.
Definitely more bud light
When you dial down the ambient noise
You notice their real notic3
Demos-cracy and our unPlanned Posterity Now
Trump didn’t back down in Minnesota out of conscience—he has none. He backed down because the optics turned radioactive for Republicans staring down a government shutdown vote.Two dead civilians (Pretti and Good), a rogue Border Patrol commander spouting indefensible claims about an “assassin” intent on massacring agents (quickly undercut by video evidence), and even usually supportive outlets like Fox News and the New York Post shifting tone—criticizing the administration's handling, calling for de-escalation, and highlighting the political fallout—made the whole operation a liability.
It's classic Trump pragmatism: fold when the political cost hits home, not out of principle. The "conscience" line is just wishful thinking from critics who want to paint it as moral weakness rather than calculated retreat.
PA DA declares WAR and insurrection against "nazi" (his word) Federal Immigrations and customs officers.
Is this true?
Minnesota is home to around 17 Fortune 500 companies (with many headquartered in the Twin Cities area), including major names like UnitedHealth Group, Target, Best Buy, and 3M.
The CEOs and leaders of many of these companies—along with dozens of other Minnesota-based executives—signed and sent an open letter to Trump. In it, they urge an immediate de-escalation of tensions, peace, focused cooperation among local, state, and federal leaders, and real, lasting solutions to the current challenges.
In essence, the business community is signaling that political posturing isn't resonating here in their blue-leaning state. They're calling for an end to the violence and loss of life affecting Minnesota residents and fellow Americans.
The jerkwad who was elected to charge cosby
It's up to Walz and Frey to de=escalate. Are they not leaders?
In kakbots world- no. They are not leaders. they are mob.
Strange that leftists universally assume they don't have to stop rioting.
Blame game erupts over Trump team's false claim Alex Pretti sought "massacre" ~ Axios
The Axios piece reports a 'blame game' erupting within and around the Trump administration after senior officials — led by Stephen Miller — pushed a false narrative that Alex Pretti intended to "massacre" law enforcement. Video evidence contradicted claims that Pretti brandished a gun or violently resisted; he was holding a phone. Kristi Noem, who echoed the "massacre" language, reportedly complained she was directed by Miller and the president, leaving her "hung out to dry" as backlash grew — especially from gun rights advocates upset over vilifying a licensed firearm carrier. This has 'complicated' Republican messaging on immigration enforcement and Second Amendment issues.
“As the knives come out for Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, four sources told Axios on Tuesday that longtime White House adviser Stephen Miller was behind the push to use incendiary language to describe Alex Pretti — a move which has since backfired.
Pretti, a 37-year-old nurse, was killed by a Border Patrol agent while protesting in Minnesota over the weekend.
"Everything I've done, I've done at the direction of the president and Stephen," Noem told someone who relayed her remarks to Axios.
"Stephen heard 'gun' and knew what the narrative would be: Pretti came to 'massacre' cops," another source familiar with the media strategy said.
"Others within the White House attempted to clean up the DHS statement prior to it being sent but it had already been disseminated," another told Axios.”
As long as the checks keep clearing
“Unknown @ 5:07, the fact that you gave your interpretation of my quote as a factual quote proves all I need to know, well, actually, knew.
Off to the waste bin with Achillies and Peachies you go.”
Good news, good news! Drago has been resurrected under the new name of Unknown/Vance! Hallelujah! Will miracles never cease?! No one needs to miss Drago anymore, no long sad faces. Only God could’ve made two commenters so similar in style, but I won’t hold that against Him.
If pretti had shot the ice agent, you would still be denying it
Stop (redacted) around
Remember folks, every time an American citizen is raped or murdered or both by an illegal, Democrats celebrate and cheer their "success!" in keeping deportations down. "By golly, we made sure that this American was hurt! Yay us!" they scream.
They must, since they riot so much to prevent violent criminals from seeing justice.
To be fair, they celebrate and cheer for criminal citizens who rape and murder too, as the Althouse thread about the Democrat woman who refuses to turn in her gang rapists also show. Democrats just love violent thugs who hurt women and children, plain and simple.
’They just want their brown asses out of here.’ And “ ‘Make America White Again’, particularly in the context you presented, is not a statement from me that deporting someone is racist.’
You directed those statements at Trump supporters suggesting that their reason for deportations is racist. So, yes, you have said or suggested that deporting someone is racist.
And if you don’t believe that deportations are racist then why did you make those two statements? You can’t have it both ways.
Inga, I am not Drago, but since you are a congenital liar I'm sure you will never believe me.
Why don't you go spend a few hours with some of your beloved criminal illegals--you and your precious daughters? See how much you enjoy their "spark of divinity" as Nancy Pelosi puts it.
Pretti was apparently a former nurse... according to more information being dug up. And had previous encounters with law enforcement.
https://nypost.com/2026/01/27/us-news/alex-pretti-known-to-feds-had-rib-broken-in-anti-ice-protest-a-week-before-he-was-killed-by-border-patrol/
As for former nurse, not covered in the NY Post- though his recent divorce was:
Donnie Cope
@dcopechatter
The parents of Alex Pretti say their son quit his hospital job months ago and had shown “unusual behavior” recently. “He seemed to have joined some kind of group. We warned him two weeks ago — protest if you want, but don’t engage, don’t do anything stupid,” his father, Michael Pretti, told reporters. “He said he understood.” But it wasn’t until police pulled messages from Alex’s phone that the truth began to emerge — and what investigators found.
It seems that Pretti's parents didn't want him participating. It seems Pretti allegedly scrubbed his social media presence one day prior to his actions leading to his death. Other social media reports state he didn't quit- he was fired for abusive behavior. And there are multiple reports of him scrubbing his social media. Strange the mainstream media hasn't looked into any of this, if for no reason other then to debunk the online reports. Doesn't seem to be any online denial of the reports.
There have been several photoshops of him transing out- almost immediately in the comments called out as false. But the earlier reports of him scrubbing his social media have gone unchallenged, as have the more recent reports of him either being fired or quit his nursing job, and his being recently divorced. Seems like he may have had a psychotic break, which reinforces my earlier supposition he may successfully committed suicide by cop.
This happens every few days. The right brings up some atrocity from the left. The lefties deny it. "no evidence", that kind of thing. The right posts links proving it. The left continues on like nothing happened, or claim some ridiculous reason why the link are not reliable.
BTW, tell Walz that the Nazis were not looking for Anne Frank in order to send her back home.
“Stephen Miller was behind the push to use incendiary language to describe Alex Pretti — a move which has since backfired.
"Everything I've done, I've done at the direction of the president and Stephen," Noem told someone who relayed her remarks to Axios.”
This sounds like it could be true. No one would blame her for for laying this at the feet of Miller and Trump. Well maybe some loyalists, but it has “Miller” written all over it. It’s doubtful Gnome would’ve made her deceitful comments without their ok.
The ICE Watch member who had a previous physical altercation with ICE comes to an ICE operation with a loaded weapon, an extra magazine, involved himself physically, and intended to do what? Make pizza? Shoot some hoops?
It’s really a mystery…
"You can’t have it both ways."
Oh, but leftists most assuredly do expect that they can.
’The parents of Alex Pretti say their son quit his hospital job months ago and had shown “unusual behavior” recently. “He seemed to have joined some kind of group. We warned him two weeks ago — protest if you want, but don’t engage, don’t do anything stupid,” his father, Michael Pretti, told reporters.’
Good advice from his parents, and sad that he didn’t listen.
“Inga, I am not Drago, but since you are a congenital liar I'm sure you will never believe me.”
Yikes, Vance have you been playing around with the Ouija board and accidentally got possessed by the spirit of Drago? Isn’t that sort of thing frowned upon in your belief system? But hey, no judgment! Whatever drives you to emulate Drago, who knows? Long lost twin, soul mate?
Well, it’s all good, those of us who miss poor Drago can now lighten our hearts that you perfected his style.
Sounds like the ‘incendiary language’, re : Pretti was spot on.
We all have our distinctive style no matter how we hide it ally oop
“’The parents of Alex Pretti say their son quit his hospital job months ago and had shown “unusual behavior” recently. “He seemed to have joined some kind of group. We warned him two weeks ago — protest if you want, but don’t engage, don’t do anything stupid,” his father, Michael Pretti, told reporters.’
Good advice from his parents, and sad that he didn’t listen.”
“Did Alex Pretti quit his Job at the VA before being killed?”
No, Alex Pretti did not quit his job at the VA before being killed.
Multiple reliable sources, including reports from ABC News, The Guardian, Hindustan Times, Times Now, Wikipedia (citing sources), and statements from his union (AFGE Local 3669) and colleagues, confirm that at the time of his death on January 24, 2026, Alex Pretti was actively employed as an intensive care unit (ICU) nurse at the Minneapolis VA Health Care System (part of the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs). He had worked there for approximately five years, was described as a dedicated nurse caring for critically ill veterans, and held an active nursing license through at least March 2026.
Claims suggesting he quit, was fired, or left his job months earlier (sometimes tied to allegations of misconduct or full-time activism) stem from misinformation, including a fabricated article on a fake news site (buzzreport247) alleging firing for “inappropriate behavior.” Fact-checks from outlets like Hindustan Times, Times Now, and others explicitly debunk these as false, noting no evidence supports them, and the cited sources (e.g., a nonexistent doctor or hospital) were invented.
Social media posts and viral theories pushing the “quit” narrative appear unsubstantiated and contradicted by official confirmations of his ongoing employment. His family, colleagues, and union all referred to him as a current VA employee dedicated to his role serving veterans.
Grok
The portrayals of the shooting by the administration people when it first happened were premature at best and maybe just flat out wrong (new information coming out could suggest Petti's possible mental issues and premeditation), but even if wrong, those comments were more than matched by Democrat politicians. One thing seems certain, the administrations comments are not what made the obstructionists go nuts. That significantly predates the shooting and matches previous behavior with or without provocation by the Administration. Nuts be nuttin.
Grok certainly knows better than his parents. lol
I'll wait for valid confirmation.
“No, the quote attributed to Alex Pretti’s parents is false and appears to be fabricated misinformation originating from unreliable social media posts and a fake news site (buzzreport247.com), which has been repeatedly debunked in relation to this case.     
The actual full statement released by his parents, Michael and Susan Pretti, makes no reference to him quitting his job, exhibiting unusual behavior, joining any group, or being warned against “doing anything stupid.”    Instead, it explicitly affirms his ongoing employment as an ICU nurse at the Minneapolis VA hospital, describes him as a “kindhearted soul who cared deeply for his family and friends and also the American veterans whom he cared for,” and denounces “the sickening lies told about our son by the administration” as “reprehensible and disgusting.”    The statement emphasizes that Alex “wanted to make a difference in this world” and portrays his final act as heroic—protecting a woman shoved by federal agents, with his phone in one hand and the other empty and raised, while being pepper-sprayed.  
This aligns with consistent reporting from mainstream outlets confirming Pretti’s active role as a VA nurse at the time of his death, with no evidence of job loss or behavioral issues from credible sources.     The false narrative seems designed to discredit him posthumously, but it is contradicted by his family’s own words and official accounts.”
Grok
You people really are gullible.
"Grok certainly knows better than his parents."
And better than Gemini.
Pretti was directing traffic.
Who deputizes these leftists?
From the cultist who falls for all the Smolettes.
“No, Alex Pretti was still employed as an intensive care unit (ICU) nurse at the Minneapolis Veterans Affairs (VA) Medical Center at the time of his death on January 24, 2026.
Reports from his family, colleagues, and professional organizations confirm he was an active staff member:
Employment Status: He held an active nursing license through March 2026 and worked in the ICU caring for critically ill veterans.
Union Membership: He was a member of the American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE), which mourned him as an active federal employee killed during his off-duty hours.
Recent Conduct: While social media rumors claimed he had quit or been terminated due to behavioral changes, mainstream news outlets and official sources have found no evidence to support these claims.
Official Tributes: Following the shooting, his colleagues at the Minneapolis VA honored him with a "proper sendoff" in the hospital halls where he worked.”
Gemini
"You people really are gullible."
In related news, the sky is blue and the Pope is Catholic.
Trump didn't ask for Rioters and fund the those rioters, vandalizers, and harassers. Walz did.
Frey did.
The chief of Police in Minneapolis is a total politicized hack. What a disgrace.
What effect did Noems comments have on anything? Did it cause the rioting, did it cause the shooting, did it make crazy people acting out suddenly act more crazy? If so, I don't know how you can tell.
Do you have a link to the actual statement from his parents, Inga? Unlike you, I don’t accept AI as the arbiter of truth.
’You people really are gullible.’
Thank goodness you never fell for the Russia Hoax…
@Timcast
Pretti was "on duty" in an active insurgency group backed by the State
He was not protesting, there was no protest.
He showed up to "resist" Federal law enforcement and brought his 9mm with an extra mag.
When confronted he fought back."
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Democrats asked him to.
“Do you have a link to the actual statement from his parents, Inga? Unlike you, I don’t accept AI as the arbiter of truth.”
Well, since they just lost their beloved son and are no doubt busy grieving, planning a funeral, etc. I’ll wait for a statement from them. Do you have a link to the “quote” in your 7:19 PM comment?
Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
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🚨 JUST IN: NYPD are now ARRESTING leftist anti-ICE rioters who stormed a hotel and many started chanting "Kristi Noem WILL HANG!"
ICE has reportedly used the hotel during operations
NOTHING these degenerates do will slow down ICE! 🔥
"You people really are gullible."
That's nothing but Russian disinformation.
BREAKING: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis just demanded the Congressional GOP GET TOUGH and IMMEDIATELY put the following bills up for a vote to energize voters
"Go after the remittances! Do employment verification. DEFUND sanctuary cities! Our voters support this 80%+!"
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Trump and Mike Johnson are not doing it.
Granting that the parents have a lick of common sense, is too provocative more likely they encouraged him
Beast, you’re trying to force this into a binary I never argued:
either deportation is racist or it isn’t. That’s your frame, not mine.
What I pointed out is this: people who claim they only want to deport “criminals” are now cheering policies that sweep up legal immigrants, asylum seekers, and families and treat them in openly dehumanizing ways. That contradiction is what I called out.
Those remarks weren’t me saying all deportation is racist.
They were describing the rhetoric and tone coming from a segment of Trump supporters who reduce human beings to “brown asses” and chant slogans resembling “Make America White Again”, even if they don’t even know what they’re chanting. That language doesn’t come from concern about crime — it comes from hostility toward certain people.
If the real concern were law and order, then legalization, due process, and work visas would be part of the conversation. But Trump supporters seem deeply uncomfortable with legalization.
So here’s the real question you’re avoiding:
If this is truly about criminals, why oppose legal pathways and due process for the millions who are not criminals? Why is “deport them” the only acceptable solution?
That’s not me calling deportation racist.
That’s me pointing out that when policy targets people indiscriminately and dehumanizes them, race and fear are doing a lot of the work.
"You people are gullible! You should believe really reliable sources like Jessie Smollett!" says Inga.
Who really, really, really needs to check her memory, since I've been posting here for years as Vance, and so was Drago. We are not the same person, no matter how much Inga claims we are.
Funny how she's not ripping Ronald J. Ward for being Chuck, though.
Inga, do you support the Democrat candidate for state attorney general running on a platform of killing Trump? He straight up says if he is elected he will make sure Trump is killed. Oh, it'll be all legal.... after a "fair trial that will only have one outcome" but for the party that says "no death penalty for child rapists and murderers!" they sure seem fond of the death penalty for political people they disagree with. Do you support the new Democrat platform of "Death Penalty --never for criminals, always for our political opponents!"?
’Well, since they just lost their beloved son and are no doubt busy grieving, planning a funeral, etc. I’ll wait for a statement from them.’
Your Grok cut-and-paste referenced a statement from his parents. I’m asking if you had a link to that statement.
And Ronald, "Why don't you support amnesty and paths to citizenship for all of these tens of millions of people?"
Because Reagan foolishly trusted Democrats to keep their word that "after the amnesty we can have border control!" Well, no thank you. No amnesty, no pathway, no nothing until after we have complete border control and all the illegals are gone, and then we can talk about legal immigration only.
Because Democrats cannot ever, ever be trusted on anything, ever. They have proven it over and over and over again. Especially when it comes time for "immigration deals." Like the so-called "bipartisan immigration plan" from Biden. "only 5,000 illegals a day before we can turn anyone away! That's great border control!"
Lies, lies, lies. Blame Democrats, Ronald, for the utter and complete lack of trust for anything they want on immigration.
They openly admit they are encouraging fraud and voting for illegals. So get them ALL out. Yank the weed out by the root. THEN we can talk about legal immigration instead of rewarding illegals.
Ronald J. Ward said...
What I pointed out is this: people who claim they only want to deport “criminals” are now cheering policies that sweep up legal immigrants, asylum seekers, and families and treat them in openly dehumanizing ways. That contradiction is what I called out.
Bullshit.
1: Coming to the US without a visa makes you a criminal
2: We NEVER said "we want to ONLY deport 'criminals'". We've always said we want to deport ALL illegals
3: Name some actual legal immigrants who are being "swept up and deported" by Trump. Not "people I think shouldn't be deported", but ACTUAL "they are here legally, and ICE is just booting them for shits and giggles".
4: All the "asylum seekers" are liars. They are advised by their left wing immigration attorneys how to lie. So every single one needs to be deported, and the deportations need to keep on happening until the attorneys stop telling people what stories to tell.
5: No one who passed through another country on their way to the US is an "asylum seeker" or a "refugee". They're just an economic migrant, and therefore an illegal alien
6: "Families" only get "swept up" when the illegal parents say they want to keep their kids with them / the spouse what's to stay with their illegal spouse. And that's how it should be.
Anything else would be "family separation"
"Lies, lies, lies. Blame Democrats, Ronald, for the utter and complete lack of trust for anything they want on immigration."
You could have left off the last two words and you'd still be right.
Ronald J. Ward said...
If the real concern were law and order, then legalization, due process, and work visas would be part of the conversation. But Trump supporters seem deeply uncomfortable with legalization.
1: Giving amnesty to criminals, which is what "legalization" is, is the antithesis of "law and order".
2: As Yancy (and I'm sure others) pointed out, we cut a deal in 1986: ONE TIME amnesty in exchange for secure borders.
Dems got the amnesty and reneged on the secure borders
So no, no amnesty, ever again. We deport every single illegal, and secure the border.
I want all illegals out, Ronald. Period. My ‘brown ass’ friend and legal immigrant from Jamaica holds the same view, as does my legal immigrant girlfriend from Poland.
I don’t care about the ‘people who claim’ you keep referencing. And I don’t care about your strawman of ‘criminals’ and reject the premise.
But I do support a pathway to citizenship: return to their country of origin and follow the same process as my legal immigrant friends have. No shortcuts.
Democrats, as blocs of Diversity, Equivocation, and Inanitiies, subscribe to the Pro-Choice, selective-child... selective, opportunistic, politically congruent [ethical] religion following progressive principles wielded with liberal license by leftist principals.
Here's a link to CBS who says they talked to the parents. It's a 100% glowing article about him, which may be fair, but mostly irrelevant. One thing they said that may be relevant is that he had the CC permit for about three years, but friends say he never carried it before.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alex-jeffrey-pretti-shot-killed-minnesota/
"But I do support a pathway to citizenship: return to their country of origin and follow the same process as my legal immigrant friends have. No shortcuts."
Why would this be unreasonable? Anyone know?
I find it irresponsible this propaganda is disseminated, here or any place else. We were once a nation of laws and I would like to return…
The priority is shared responsibility for criminal illegal aliens through deportation, but the goal is repatriation of illegal aliens to the nations of their fathers and mothers. Why are people so xenophobic? Emigration reform to mitigate progress at both ends of the bridge and collateral damage throughout. #HateLovesAbortion
’Why would this be unreasonable?’
It’s reasonable, lawful, and absolutely fair to those who followed our immigration laws. Anything else is lawlessness.
"Why would this be unreasonable? Anyone know?"
Not unreasonable, but I have one issue that separates me from the "send them all back" faction.
For decades we had few consequences for entering illegally. They were pretty free to work, collect benefits like a citizen, send their kids to school, have bank accounts, raise children, buy homes, etc. We made it seem like it was fine with us. We passively invited them, and under Biden actively and irresponsibly brought them in (while lying to the American public the whole time) It seems unfair to pretend we as a country had no hand in it. It seems unfair for a lot of long-time illegals who consider themselves more American than they are foreign. The nation deserve some responsibility for misleading them.
By the way: my friends who legally immigrated to our country are now U.S. citizens. It took time and money, but they are very proud to be Americans, and I’m proud of them. And we can always use more smokin’ hot babes… :)
’We made it seem like it was fine with us.’
I understand and appreciate your point. However, it was politicians, government officials, some business owners, and some activists who were fine with it - not me - and the responsibility falls upon them for not properly enforcing our laws, or for taking advantage of cheap labor, or for advancing their personal agendas.
Get your education, leftists
Althouse commenters who refer to ICE as engaging in "law enforcement," need to review the law.
Kak bot- why do you think leftwing rioters are above the law?
Immigrations and Customs Officers are law enforcement.
Walz Antifa Rioters - NOT.
According to travel.state.gov, when someone enters the US on a visa, they are given the date they are expected to return to their home country. That doesn't sound very misleading. How many of those who ignored that date and stayed asked if it was okay to stay longer?
Beast @ 810, we all want illegals out. Why are you beating that dead horse?
Getting late, maybe on another thread. Maybe when your team is in less damage control mode?
bagoh20 said...
The nation deserve some responsibility for misleading them.
Fine. boo hoo, I feel really bad that people I voted against mislead them.
Now deport them.
Because you can't take adverse possession of citizenship, and I'm not going to reward politicians who decided to ignore the law and us voters.
We did the one and only amnesty in 1986. Now we get our strict border laws and enforcement. Deport them all
Vance believes that medical professionals would risk losing their licenses, jobs, reputation in the community, etc. this is fake, somebody may have said something like this but they weren’t representative of nurses or doctors.
Uh-huh. Just like those thousands upon thousands of leftists publicly celebrating Charlie Kirk's death are fake. Or not representative of the left.
Just because you ignore the shock troops on your side doesn't mean we don't get to call them out. And directly associate you with them.
You are them. They are you.
One and the same.
Own it.
Re: Nurses: Via Libs of TikTok...
Meet Michael Moncure, a registered nurse at @AtriumHealth in North Carolina. He commented online, saying ICE agents "better pray" they don't end up in a hospital because the nurses "won't be kind."
This sounds like a threat against ICE agents. How can this person be trusted to care for people with opposing political views?
Any comment @AtriumHealth?
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/2016247504312963221
Mayorkas, who served as Secretary of Homeland Security during Bidens term in office, defended the department's efforts but said the nation's immigration system is “fundamentally broken, and only Congress can fix it."
Instead of fixing the problem, Trump created the masked enforcers who were sent to blue states as part of Trump's "get even" presidential policies. Thousands of legal occupants are behind bars who have never been charged with crimes. Now American citizens are now being murdered by Federal officers. None of the five murders in 2025 and 2026 have resulted in trials against these officers.
And the Constitution still says that it remains for Congress to fix our immigration policies.
"Everything I've done, I have done at the direction of the president and Stephen [Miller]," Noem told a person who relayed her remarks to Axios.
Master Stephen strikes again! Him bad like yaz.
One of those Media dichotomies is reflected in comments here. Trump is assumed to be the actor when any of his appointees do something that the Left criticizes, or even an LEO at street level acts: "Trump is killing Americans in the streets." Yet even Biden's direct reports like Mayorkas are discussed by Democrats as if they were acting independently of the guy who literally urged the caravans to "come on up" when he ran in 2020.
Otherwise comments have become a swamp of recycled talking points. Two movies indeed.
Do lefties really believe that the laws ICE is enforcing and the strictly adhered-to policies at the border just appeared when Trump took office, like the violent riots did? Congress, both parties over years and years, wrote the laws. That Biden chose "non-enforcement" much like Obama did right up until Trump started campaigning on closing the border. Non-enforcement did not change the laws. It changed how Mayorkas applied them.
It's funny how true Trump's statement that we didn't need a new border bill from Congress, we just needed a new President is and it gets truer every day. Unlike Gadlfy's stale references to Constitution he doesn't even believe in.
’Beast @ 810, we all want illegals out. Why are you beating that dead horse?
Getting late, maybe on another thread. Maybe when your team is in less damage control mode?’
You’re arguing on this thread for a pathway to citizenship, so you don’t want them out. Why so dishonest?
And my arguments are unrelated to any ‘damage control’ you may see for ‘my team’. Better luck next time…
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