"On the flip side, Harris was within a few swing-state percentage points of the presidency after spending just over 100 days in the race and battling economic headwinds that have sunk parties in power around the world. Whether Harris is up to another campaign is a different question, a senior aide noted, and the answer will only come with time. 'We’re barely a week after the election,' the person said."
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"Democratic jockeying for the 2028 presidential election is already underway/Nearly two dozen Democrats are seen as possible contenders ahead of an invisible primary that will be shaped partly by Trump and his second term" (NBC News).
From this, I will avert my eyes.
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Lunacy.
Of course, she'll have to win an open primary next time. Something she's proven unable to do so far.
So we'll see Kamala drop out in December 2027 when she polls around 2%.
I highly doubt she'd get significant donor support for another run.
Wait a minute. I thought a Trump win means dictator for life and no more elections. You mean I have to do this voting thing again in 4 years? Democrats never keep their promises.
“I will avert my eyes.”
Like rubberneckers will let you.
Heh… reality ain’t what it seems in their opium dreams…
It's too soon. I'm still bathing in schadenfreude on a daily basis. Let's all agree to wait until 2026 for the next round of presidential politics.
battling economic headwinds ooh, good point. She won't have to worry about that after four years of a Trump economy.
The next election will likely require voter ID and updated voter rolls.
Our new DOJ is also going to be taking a better look at some places in Maricopa County and Milwaukee and Philidelphia.
Have fun in the political wilderness Democrats.
The requirement that all voting machines have open source code will be lit.
"The next election will likely require voter ID and updated voter rolls."
You're dreaming. Nothing like that will get past the Senate filibuster.
As others have noted elsewhere, didn't she blow two billion dollars?
Why are any Democrats planning a run- I thought Trump was going to be Dictator For Life?
Sigh.....I see Eva Marie beat me to it.
Harris is politically dead for national office. She might be able to replace Newsom in California but even that is not probable. She is a terrible candidate for any office that requires voters.
Kamala Harris was likely the worst presidential candidate in our nation's history. Under normal circumstances she'd now be the punchline to every political joke for the next decade, and an outcast from the world of politics. But for most Dems Harris is immune from the normal criticisms for the same reason she was their candidate in the first place -- her gender and skin color. So long as she wears that armor a significant portion of Democrats will see her as a viable candidate no matter how much of an empty suite she actually is. The left's inability to look past race and gender will continue to be their downfall.
Heh, "an invisible primary", just like that last one. No need to avert your eyes.
If Harris runs she will, once again, not make it past Iowa.
For the win.
Harris running again reminds me of a guy in college who told me he'd be interested in dating a certain girl - if he could "put a bag over her personality"
Harris-Walz was the absolutely worst ticket the Dems could have produced. It's not just that they were dumb leftists. They are dumb leftists too cowardly to assert and defend their positions.
Even Dems who voted for these idiots know that to be true.
This.
Do’h!
"On the flip side, Harris was within a few swing-state percentage points of the presidency after spending just over 100 days in the race and battling economic headwinds that have sunk parties in power around the world."
See. So many of them are in total denial of why they lost. "Economic headwinds?" The Harris campaign raised over a billion dollars!
How bad do you have to be when the president doesn't vote for you. If there is a national voter ID law in 2028 then the democrats are going to have a hard time fielding anybody. Right now if their lives depended on presenting their issues honestly thay'd all be dead.
It's so funny that they think there's going to be any more elections.
They don't even listen to their own statements.
Democrats: Democracy has ended. We are not having any more elections. The President of the United States TOLD YOU this would happen.
We voted on this.
This is a Dictatorship now.
Wait! I thought she won Iowa?
They gave her $1 billion.
And somehow she spent $1.2 billion.
So now, they have to raise $200 million to give to the LOSER. That's gonna leave a mark.
I think AOC will run and I think she'll surprise people, get some stadium crowds and real energy from voters. She reminds me of Palin and Trump, somebody with strong charisma who makes emotional connections with people. She has a lot of haters which just adds to her popularity.
Shapiro-AOC
Newsom-AOC
And she might be at the top of the ticket.
She will do Joe Rogan, no problem. She's Bernie with boobs. She's already thrown all the trans babies out of the bus. "You know my pronouns!"
Either way, one hell of a lot with nothing to show for it.
I wouldn't be surprised if they sidelined her hard, to the point where she can't even get DNC funding for another attempt.
Democracy ended on November 5. The President of the United States TOLD everyone that this was on the ballot. We all voted and had a chance to choose how we want our country to operate.
There will be no more elections.
He is.
Harris was within a few swing-state percentage points of the presidency...
While running against literally Hitler with all the benefits of the race and gender card and a press that would do to her with she did to Willie Brown if she had the equipment.
I don't see her surviving the primaries, but there will be much in-fighting as people blame the (Democrat) voters for not embracing a bipoc candidate.
There's no guy she can have sex with that will give her the California governorship. So I'm not sure how you think she's going to do that.
I don't think the Satanic Dorito lady from Michigan gets out of Iowa. She made Kamala look like a genius.
Gretchen Be Fetchin'
Gretch! What a catch!
Vote Gretch, not Wretch
I can't help her. She's toast with marshmallow jam.
I think the answer to any Kamala questions is...
"Kamala Who?"
Don't be mesmerized by them big 'ole Socialist titties.
If you lose to Hitler you go down in history as a stinker.
This is correct. She was a shitty candidate that, through their own preening foolishness, the Democrats were forced to put forward.
She has less political viability than Hillary Clinton.
"She Can Win Now That Hitler's Out of the Race."
Kamala Harris and Katie Porter are leading the scrum to be Governor of California. Two hardcore leftists. Both masters of word salad speak, both hard to listen to for much longer than a minute. That's what I get to look forward to, after ages of the petty little tyrant, Gavin Newsom.
Now that’s the thread winner! Y’all are on fire.
If Donald Trump really did play 3-D chess...
he's arrest her and send the FBI to raid her house
and prosecute her with 69 felonies
and the Democrats would be all, "We have to nominate her, this is so unfair!"
and then they would get the word salads again.
The reference is to the shit American economy that Bidenomics created, and Harris blessed.
Kamala campaigns in a prison jumpsuit.
"What can be, unburdened by what has been!"
That's why we shouldn't play 3-D chess.
Since everything on the globalist left is rigged - good luck with that.
Spin the puppet!
Is Dixcus a fed - or simply stupid. Vote often.
Who grovels to the puppet master - there's your winner.
Never underestimate the power of the puppet master.
This is the correct prediction.
Jockeying through gerrymandering the votes and an invisible democracy that dies at the Democratic twilight fringe. This is a thinly veiled shout-out to human rites activists, right? Walz'N Karma-la.
She's a smooth operator - but a phony.
Harris is done with politics. It sounds like she has no more money left in her campaign funds and little chance of raising enough for another run. It was fun while it lasted, but she's over.
If past experience is relevant, AOC will be the new Bernie Sanders, supported by large elements of the Democrat base but feared by the party's leaders and donors. Or has the Democratic Party caught up with her?
Democrats are ready for another Carter or Clinton or Obama -- an obscure figure who captivates the national media and is pushed by the media to become the nominee and the new John F. Kennedy. Maybe it will be Wes Moore, governor of Maryland. Maybe it will be somebody else. Democrats are looking for someone who can be more of a pretty boy or girl than Gavin Newsom. It could be Josh Shapiro, but is the country ready for someone who used to work at the Israeli embassy in DC?
Have the Democrats re-nominated a loser in the presidential election -- not the primary, the general election -- since Adlai Stevenson? Don't hold your breath.
That's like saying, "She's a smooth operator - but a Democrat."
Any future bid by Kamala Harris to run for President will be met with laughter. Which, considering her Kackler reputation, would be appropriate.
You mean kamala is going to have to live on Doug's income?
We can hope!
Carter was not pushed by the media. Clinton was not obscure.
She coulda been a contender!
She can get elected again to statewide office. Whether she wants to another story. Her original plan was to aim for accepting baton from Biden in '28.
Well, Vance has been photographed in shorts, an obvious disqualification for him to run for president. Now she'll only have to be better than all of the other Democrats.
y'all Really think that she'd last THAT Long?
Zero chance.
"On the flip side, Harris was within a few swing-state percentage points of the presidency"
Translation: Dammit, we could have easily stolen this election. Next time will know better than to chicken out.
From this, I will avert my eyes.
Perfect.
“I’d be very glad to be Josh Shapiro. But four years is a freaking eternity,” this person added. “I mean, my God, the 106 days we just lived through felt like an eternity.”
Wait until the 1461 days of Trump 2:0! Eternity squared!
You're dreaming. Nothing like that will get past the Senate filibuster.
Assuming, that the Republicans* don't eliminate the filibuster.
Want to hear The Loudest Wailing in The World? Imagine the wailing from the Democrat Party and the MSM if the Republicans* eliminate the filibuster
Republicans* don't worry Democrats; the Republicans are TOO STUPID to think
So they are floating this so that she can raise enough to pay off the other $200 mil, then she goes away. Makes more sense than her actually running again.
Just say the words President Newsom and President Pritzger. Without laughing.
What I recall from her 2020 run was the article where she visited sorority friends and the "squeeee-weeee" cry or whatever it was and how important that was. And I was thinking "Could they tongue-bathe her any more?" Well this year they did. And it still wasn't enough.
Not lunacy. Smart strategist would start thinking about the next election as soon as the last election was over, win or lose. Talking about Harris running again is absurd though.
Kamala will be taking over for Joy Behar on 'The View' in about a year. What they lose in Joy, they'll gain in cackles.
The Democrats have tried a white cis woman and an Indian, white and black cis woman. Next time, they should go with either a Native American cis woman (Elizabeth Warren) or a trans woman (Admiral Rachel Levine — “everyone loves a man in uniform”).
Using a billion dollars on an unworkable pipe dream is standard operating procedure for both Dems and Repubs, when the dollars are simply deficit spending of tax revenue, but not when the billion is donor money. Unless she can, for example, win a Nobel Peace Prize for settling the Iran/Israel war, or the Putin?Ukraine war, or at least the cartel war south of the border, she has a great future ahead of her on a few select Boards of Directors for groups where meeting attendance is optional.
Oh PLEASE run again, pretty pretty please!
Of course, she'll have to run in the primaries, because the Dems won't dare to anoint her again. The only way she'd have a chance is if the Dems pulled a Hillary, and got all the superdelegates on her side.
I guess it's possible, but why would the Dems do something that stupid?
But four years is a freaking eternity
One cool thing about 2024 is a lot of shit happens in a week.
Yossarian -- I think it was Yossarian -- cultivated boredom because time lasts forever when you're bored.
What's kinda awesome about now is that time last forever while we're having fun!
"It's a ship that made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs."
Yeah, but were you president before you were president?
We're flying and he hasn't even been inaugurated yet.
Funny that someone posting as "Lazarus" is sure that Kamala cannot rise from the (political) dead!
Well despite being quite unpopular with everyone Biden just kept hanging around and look where that got him…
No reform. No introspection. No reflexion on how $1,300,000,000.00 wasn't enough to beat that "felon, rapist, sexist, racist, lying, delusional, senile, debilitated, racist, felon, fascist, racist, lying fascist" who spent not even a third of Harris warchest. Just more cut your dick off, kill your baby, death to America bullshit.
Kamala's big advantage in this recent election is that she's not Trump. It's of no help in future elections when the opponents aren't Trump, either.
From this, I will avert my eyes.
@Althpuse, I can’t blame you.
I’m also going to argue that Harris kept the loss down to 86 votes in the Electoral College because she had only 107 days to campaign. Like Hillary Clinton before her, the more the voters saw of her the less they liked her. A longer campaign would have meant more gaffes to hang around her neck.
Being unable to win Primary's hasn't stopped Harris thusfar, bro.
Except we're not having any more elections, North. Didn't you hear what the President of the United States told the American people? He said if Trump is elected, then Democracy is over.
So it's over. There's no more elections. We VOTED ON THAT. AND WON.
Harris is toast, never to be seen again
So true. It took the conviction among Democrats that only Biden could beat Trump (not my view in 2020) to get him the nomination.
How is it possible that we could finish election day evening without knowing which way it would end up, and then by the end of the week, the electoral count stood at 312 vs 226, with Trump carrying the popular vote by a clear margin? How is it that our electoral system is so unstable, so prone to argumentative mischief that has the power to swing an election into different result? The past 3 elections have been this way. I hope cleaning this up is a top priority. There's a pretty good short article on this by Doug Traux in RCP today
She's a pretty girl who's like a malady.
Katie Porker will never be governor. She’s lost her battle with the refrigerator and a Large Marge won’t cut it in Caliunicornia… whatever her politics.
I am not a Democrat, and you never no, but I gotta say that this is gonna be a hard no, that even AOC couldn't talk her way past.
We'll know she's retired when she's an Indian again.
Kamala is road kill.... gone... farther gone that Pence... no one wants her now.. Bet some of that Billion was skimmed off for her retirement fund to.
Year 2028 election:
JD Vance versus one of these:
- A woke black or brown female lesbian (KJP)
- A pro-Palestinian revolutionary who hates all things white (Rashida Tlaib)
- A very very very old Joe Manchin who tries to regain the working class vote
- Some aging Hollywood hippie who sell pot-infused gummies (Meathead? Woody Harrelson? Gavin Newsom is too much of a straight white male to win the nomination)
- Tim Walz, only accidentally, as he still thinks he's running for VP in 2024
- Madonna, as she still wants to burn down the White House
- Rachel Zegler, as she leverages the unreleased woke Snow White and Greta Thunberg crowd to gain the youth vote
Kamala Harris: "take the money and run". Harris is AWOL since her late-arriving concession speech, has a Jamaican passport, and that depleted $1 billion campaign war-chest is red flag that audit is desperately needed. Harris isn't running for state or federal office hereon. She's got a divorce to initiate, several mansions to buy, and has Obamas' real estate agent on speed-dial.
Like the lincoln project
Althouse. I apologize for the typo
As Former Illinois resident said - she's going to shed Dougie soon, and be unburdened by what he's been.
Every so often, I feel compelled to trot out a link to one of my favorite political cartoons, which shows President George H.W. Bush declaring that the "Elite Democratic Guard is Completely Immobilized" at the peak of his Gulf War popularity, showing the likely Democratic presidential candidates to be thoroughly befuddled. It was less than two years before the 1992 election, and a certain obscure governor of Arkansas was not on the radar.
FWIW, I don't think that any of the governors mentioned in the current article about potential candidates for 2028 are likely to get the nomination, with the possible exception of Shapiro. I know a lot of people think Whitmer is strong, but I know some Michigan Democrat politicians, and their consensus is that she's, well, weird. (remember that whole "giving some kind of Dorito communion with lesbian overtones to a podcaster" thing?) If she runs, they expect her candidacy to dissolve like Harris' campaign.
My guess is that the 2028 Dem nominee will be someone who is not widely seen on the radar yet.
Out of the people mentioned in the article, I think that CT's Senator Chris Murphy is likely to run and may perform better than many would expect. I'll explain more if I see that he starts showing up in the public eye more often. Historically, he has kept such a low profile that I suspect most CT voters would struggle to remember his name, but I've had a feeling there was a highly calculated and ambitious purpose behind that.
Ist 2028 Pres guess - JD and Tulsi vs Gavin and Whitmer. JD wins all DJT 2024 states as well as MN, VA, NH, NM, NJ. In 2032 they become the first ticket to win all 50 states (lose DC, of course). Dems then help negotiate the purchase of Canada, Mexico, and Greenland in the hope to bring in more D leaning votes. Tulsi becomes president in 2036 winning all 62 states. Tulsi appoints JD as Chief Justice of the Supreme Coyrt, to replace Roberts. Sleep well! Cheers!
Dixcus said…
“They gave her $1 billion. And somehow she spent $1.2 billion.”
Sounds like the perfect person to put in charge of the federal budget.
We’ve had three Trumpsteric elections now. That’s going to be a hard habit for the Donks to beat ‘cause, let’s face it, they love the emotional kick of hysteria. I’m guessing we’re to hear a lot of Trumpian, Trumpist, Trumpadelic, Trumpalatory, Trumpalific, and Trumpalutionary accusations thrown for many election cycles to come.
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