March 13, 2021

"In the weeks leading up to the 2020 presidential election, The New York Post, the nation’s oldest newspaper, broke a major story based on documents and emails obtained from the laptop of Hunter Biden..."

"... son of the front-running presidential candidate Joe Biden. Those documents shed substantial light not only on the efforts of Hunter and other family members of President Biden to trade on his name and their influence on him for lucrative business deals around the world, but also raised serious questions about the extent to which President Biden himself was aware of and involved in those efforts. But Americans were barred from discussing that reporting on Twitter, and were actively impeded from reading about it by Facebook. That is because Twitter imposed a full ban on its users’ ability to link to the story: not just on their public Twitter pages but even in private Twitter chats. Twitter even locked the account of The New York Post, preventing the newspaper from using that platform for almost two weeks unless they agreed to voluntarily delete any references to their reporting about the Hunter Biden materials (the paper, rightfully, refused). Facebook’s censorship of this reporting was more subtle.... The censorship justification was that the documents on which the reporting was based constituted either 'hacked materials' and/or 'Russian disinformation.' Neither of those claims is true.... While we will never know whether this censorship altered the outcome of the election, it is clear that this was one of the most direct acts of information repression about an American presidential election in decades."

From the opening statement of Glenn Greenwald before the House Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law yesterday.

188 comments:

Amadeus 48 said...

Well, that's HIS truth.

Douglas B. Levene said...

The Democrats’ response to Greenwald: “So what? Our enemies’ speech is being suppressed? Isn’t that a good thing? Go away.”

Shouting Thomas said...

Greenwald has been writing some great essays on substack.

I think he’s on a fool’s errand with the House.

The Dems are in favor of censorship and electoral fraud.

MayBee said...

I am sorry I missed that. I applaud whoever invited him to speak.

Original Mike said...

"…it is clear that this was one of the most direct acts of information repression about an American presidential election in decades."

It will be interesting to see if there is a single Congressional democrat honest enough to admit the truth of his statement.

Joe Smith said...

Yes, along with 'FDR isn't a cripple' ('30s lingo)...

JAORE said...

Q: If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there to hear does it make a sound?

A: If the sound of a tree falling is either (A) Good for the left or (B) Bad for the right, yes.

MartyH said...

Did the Republicans invite him to testify? It doesn’t seem like the Dems would. Although, at this point, what difference does it make? (attributed to HRC.)

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

“Disinformation” as practiced by Big Media. Nothing to see here. Move along.

wildswan said...

We shouldn't overlook the fact that to leftists this is a fact indicating that "their" party is supporting the rich and suppressing stories critical of them. We think this is obvious and has been for a long time and why mention it. That's not how they see it. They want reform. And no wonder. The Republicans are the only party that could conceivably be considered for the workers and Greenwald and Taibbi (and Inga) would die like slugs with salt on them if they had to support a Republican.

tim in vermont said...

Like Insty says, it’s de facto censorship, the very kind of censorship that the left holds up as a possibility in their justifications for “net neuratlity.”

“Disinformation” is another word for the other side getting their story out. You can’t let people hear the other side! They may get the wrong idea.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

For all those pushing the "Republicans are desperate because they're on the outs and going to lose forever":

If you actual have a valid program that's good for the voters' nd good with the voters, you don't have to push for vote fraud, and you don't have to censor your opponents.

So, why are the Democrats so desperate to do both?

Owen said...

Glenn Greenwald is EN FUEGO on substack. Most impressive. I doubt it will matter, and I am certain that he will have to spend the rest of his days looking behind him.

tim in vermont said...

Everything was at stake in this past election, and we lost. Now Biden is writing executive orders regulating elections nationwide, which amounts to treating the Constitution like a roll of toilet paper. Nobody is going to call him on it, not McConnell, that’s for sure.

Oso Negro said...

@Tim in Vermont - I would say Biden is "signing" executive orders. God knows who is writing them.

Ken B said...

Greenwald > entire corporate media

Ken B said...

Shouting Thomas
Greenwald will be ignored but it’s still good he is getting it on the record. There were dissents in the Dred Scott case too.

JPS said...

tim in vermont,

"Now Biden is writing executive orders regulating elections nationwide,"

I hate to sharpshoot you, but – the president is signing executive orders. I doubt very much that he has much input.

And yes, Ken B. As long as anyone cares about a record, good for him.

JPS said...

Oso Negro beat me to it.

Rick.T. said...

Part of the reason that the current arguments around social media, Amazon, etc can do what they want because private companies does not resonate with me. Basically, the Democrats have outsourced government censorship and thought/financial punishment to their allies in these sectors.

GatorNavy said...

Mr Greenwald hasn’t internalized the new order of things. To be a woke liberal Democrat means you are a totalitarian. Mr Greenwald will be canceled very shortly.

Matt Sablan said...

I think an interesting question for Big Tech would be: If the Hunter Biden story was suppressed since the documents were "hacked" or "stolen," why did you publish Trump's stolen tax records?

Drago said...

tim in vermont: "Now Biden is writing executive orders regulating elections nationwide, which amounts to treating the Constitution like a roll of toilet paper. Nobody is going to call him on it, not McConnell, that’s for sure."

McConnell has been completely exposed as a deep state/ChiCom affiliated (through the McConnell family ChiCom shipbuilding deal)/"Washington Generals"/"Failure Theatre" type.

And as we speak McConnell is working with the republican controlled Kentucky legislature to take away the power of the governor (currently a LLR-approved and beloved far left dem) to appoint a replacement in the case of resignation.

As soon as that bill is passed and over riding a Gov veto, McConnell will declare he's leaving for health reasons and then off he goes.

Iman said...

State-run media/Democrat operatives with bylines when Democrats are in power, Deep State-run media/Democrat operatives with bylines when the Republicans are.

Shouting Thomas said...

FB just put me in the hole for 3 days for telling an Irish joke.

I’m half Irish.

They then sent me a form asking me if I accepted their decision.

The only button choice available was “ACCEPT”.

Arturo Ui said...

Glenn Greenwald is a liar and a hack, but right wingers love him because he trashes the left while pretending to be a leftist.

Mr Wibble said...

Twitter locked my account for a tranny comment. I refuse to delete it, so I guess I'm done with Twitter.

Drago said...

Matt Sablan: "I think an interesting question for Big Tech would be: If the Hunter Biden story was suppressed since the documents were "hacked" or "stolen," why did you publish Trump's stolen tax records?"

That is, with all due respect (not sarcasm!), both a dumb and uninteresting question.

Marxist/Maoist totalitarians actually revel in their blatant hypocrisy.

Just look at the lefties/LLR-lefties on these boards. The more transparent and blatant and obvious the double standard and hypocrisy, the MORE they enjoy it.

ndspinelli said...

I subscribe to Greenwald, Taibbi, and Loury on substack and it's worth every penny.

Retail Lawyer said...

They don't even try to hide it anymore. "What are you going to do about it?"

wendybar said...

And nobody seems to care, because Hunters last name isn't TRUMP.

Arturo Ui said...

Hunter Biden ran for president? Huh.

Yancey Ward said...

"Marxist/Maoist totalitarians actually revel in their blatant hypocrisy."

This is undeniably true at this point. I think a great mistake on the right is believing people like Arturo above are irrational and can be made to see the problems with their political policies of speech repression. Such blatant double standards are a completely rational exercise of power, and the answer to it isn't going to be sober debate at any level. The answer increasingly isn't even going to be voting unless the Republicans develop an actual spine enough to be an opposition.

Douglas B. Levene said...

@Arturo Ui: So your claim is that Greenwald is a liar? OK. Tell us one lie that Greenwald made and what your evidence is for the falsehood of his statement. Remember: a lie is a misstatement of fact, not an opinion. I'll wait.

independent said...

Twitter has decided to use some its editorial discretion. Are they doing it for political reasons or because they don't want to be a venue for what they consider to be fake news, or both? Why does it matter. They have First Amendment rights. And, the story was published right before the election and the main reporter refused to put his name on it. Twitter doesn't have an obligation to be a vessel for such "news" if they don't want.

If you don't like Twitter then don't use it and don't read it. But for some reason conservative voices just can't stay away - eg Trump Jr. Taylor Greene and on and on. Twitter has a #hunterbidenlaptop hashtag with thousands of posts.

People never had problems communicating with each other before the internet and social media. And all of those forms of communication still exist - cable tv, talk radio, newspapers, leaflets, in-person, phone, etc. And apart from social media there are thousands of political websites to get the news and opinion that fits your own wants and beliefs. They aren't being censored or cancelled with very few exceptions, eg ISIS. And there is email. And texting. And blogs, etc.

So this idea that people are being silenced when the available modes of communicating are ten times greater than just 30 years ago is ridiculous.

Although I really wasn't interested in the Hunter Biden stories because people never seemed to have any evidence that his dad did anything illegal - just sheer speculation, it was a cover-to-cover story on Hannity and Carlson, etc. for weeks on end. It was as if Hunter was running for President.

Btw, did Tucker ever find the smoking gun on Hunter that he lost in the mail (w/o first making a copy)? What did it show?

Chuck said...

The same day that Greenwald’s statement was released, New York magazine published this Jon Chait essay about Greenwald:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/03/why-glenn-greenwald-says-tucker-carlson-is-a-true-socialist.html

The essay featured this Glenn Greenwald quote:

“I would describe a lot of people on the right as being socialist. I would consider Steve Bannon to be socialist. I would consider the 2016 iteration of Donald Trump the candidate to be a socialist, based on what he was saying. I would consider Tucker Carlson to be a socialist.”

farmgirl said...

1st thought:
No shit, Sherlock.
2nd thought:
Now do the court system’s response.

Shouting Thomas said...

Arturo is not a real person... some sort of bot or Democratic Party mole.

I clicked to his Blogger profile. It links to an page titled: “I am a Republican” that has never been posted to. That title is the sum of the pages content.

I’m sure you know this, but Althouse’s blog is under constant surveillance and is often visited by moles and provocateurs.

Fustigator said...

Blogger Shouting Thomas said...

FB just put me in the hole for 3 days for telling an Irish joke.

I’m half Irish.

They then sent me a form asking me if I accepted their decision.

The only button choice available was “ACCEPT”.

3/13/21, 11:22 AM

You know, of course, there is another option. But if you remain on FB you must play by their rules.

Civil war and potential dissolution of the US should come easier after we spend the next two decades building democrat companies and republican companies (assuming we are allowed to do so). If not, civil war and bloodshed comes earlier.

Note: I dont see any non-violent solution other than the absolute crushing of conservative/republican opposition so much so that we cant even fight back.

Shouting Thomas said...

Excuse me, Arturo’s page is titled: “Larry Johnson is a Republican.”

Arturo Ui said...

Douglas B. Levene said...
@Arturo Ui: So your claim is that Greenwald is a liar? OK. Tell us one lie that Greenwald made and what your evidence is for the falsehood of his statement. Remember: a lie is a misstatement of fact, not an opinion. I'll wait.

*****************

Sure, that's easy. Greenwald wrote in the wake of the Capitol riot that none of the rioters used Parler to organize the riot, which was so instantly, obviously and provably untrue that it eliminated any claim Glenn could make to being a journalist ever again. He later said he wrote that only because Parler's owner told him so, which again makes him not a journalist.

Temujin said...

When the rebellions start to appear across the American landscape these people will wonder why the populace is so worked up. Must be the White Supremacists we've told you all about for a year or so. They don't consider their stealing the election, or embarrassingly censoring the press anything to fret about.

Glenn Greenwald appearing in front of the House Subcommittee on anything to complain about media censorship affecting the election is akin to a Russian appearing before Lavrentiy Beria to testify about his harsh crackdowns on speech in the Soviet Union. It'll get you nowhere except disappeared.

Welcome to the new USA.

Arturo Ui said...

Shouting Thomas said...
Excuse me, Arturo’s page is titled: “Larry Johnson is a Republican.”

****************

That's some impressive investigative work there, detective. You really got me.

wendybar said...

Arturo Ui said...Sure, that's easy. Greenwald wrote in the wake of the Capitol riot that none of the rioters used Parler to organize the riot, which was so instantly, obviously and provably untrue that it eliminated any claim Glenn could make to being a journalist ever again. He later said he wrote that only because Parler's owner told him so, which again makes him not a journalist.

Maybe turn off CNN once in a while so you can learn the truth???
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/02/07/sheryl-sandberg-downplayed-facebooks-role-in-the-capitol-hill-siege-justice-department-files-tell-a-very-different-story/

n.n said...

The Dems are in favor of censorship and electoral fraud.

We should encourage them to deny their Twilight faith, lose their quasi-religion (shed their ethical trappings), leave the Progressive Church/Synagogue etc., forego democratic gerrymandering with "benefits", and stand for The Constitution and keep their oath.

There are some apostates, even Pro-Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

Ann Althouse said...

"I’m sure you know this, but Althouse’s blog is under constant surveillance and is often visited by moles and provocateurs."

How exciting and subversive.

Shouting Thomas said...

@Arturo

Maybe you should make it a little more difficult to find out that you’re a fake.

So, now that we know you’re a mole or a bot, what’s you’re purpose in being here?

Not that I’m expecting an answer.

n.n said...

To be a woke liberal Democrat means you are a totalitarian

Far-left ideology and diversity dogma are a wicked combination.

n.n said...

"I’m sure you know this, but Althouse’s blog is under constant surveillance and is often visited by moles and provocateurs."

How exciting and subversive.


Insidious, even.

victoria said...

Pure and unadulterated crap.Glenn Greenwald trying to find relevance in a world that doesn't care about what he says, And, the Post is more of a "tabloid" than a real news source. Please, Page 6?


Vicki from Pasadena

Shouting Thomas said...

One day, I’d like to meet you in person, prof.

You’re funny.

Shouting Thomas said...

Greenwald is so irrelevant that his life has been threatened by the Brazilian government and he travels in armored vehicles.

And, oh, he speaks before congressional committees.

So, you’re in favor of censoring any publication that you can attach a negative tag to?

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

America is run by a corrupt cabal of elites. The democrat-tech mob.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Chuck dodges the the media-tech-Democrat party-censorship angel, and the fact that the Bidens are corrupt.

we are all so shocked.

Douglas B. Levene said...

@Arturo: And while you're at it, maybe you could answer my original question: What are the false statements in the Statement of Greenwald to the Committee. That's what we are discussing this morning, right?

chickelit said...

And yet the average progressive woman -- ones I left behind in California and the ones I've met here in Wisconsin -- will look you in the eye and tell you that what Twitter and Facebook did was justified because "Orange Man Bad."

Hooray for their tacit embrace of Hunter Biden!

There is a shit-ton of reconciliation that needs to happen.

chickelit said...

Vicki from Pasadena said...

...see what I mean? She's hopeless.

Old and slow said...

I bit the bullet and paid the $50 subscription for Greenwald's substack last night. I'll cheerfully lift content for free from the NYT, but this kind of quality deserves to be paid. I've also spent thousands via AA's amazon portal, but I'd prefer to see her on substack.

Bruce Hayden said...

“ The Dems are in favor of censorship and electoral fraud.”

The problem s that it worked. They both worked to get Biden “elected” President. Likely they desperately needed both to win. Awhile back, there was a survey of Biden voters, and they were asked about a series of pro-Trump and anti-Biden facts (like this one) that had been hidden from them last year, and somewhere between 1/5 and 1/4 said that they would have voted differently if they had known the truth that was kept from them. I am not sure I believe the numbers there, but try this with the people you know who admit proudly to having voted for Biden: ask the if they knew about the $1.5 billion of Chinese money Hunter got to manage, that Joe had prevented the Ukrainians from investigating his son by threatening to withhold our money from them, that Hunter banged his recently widowed sister in law, that he was fathering a kid out of wedlock, that he had spent much of the previous decade high on cocaine, curtesy of our govt, that Hunter and Jim Biden were apparently kicking a percentage of their graft back to Joe, etc.? The leftists will call you a hater for asking those questions, while everyone else will tell you they don’t want to hear it.

chickelit said...

Chuck and the "Brecht Girl" don't like Greenwald. That must mean that Greenwald is cutting too close for comfort.

I get it.

narciso said...

Indeed

https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/13/lapdog-corrupt-media-coverage-of-bidens-carteresque-speech-is-embarrassing/

victoria said...

Chickelit, I feel sorry for you and all the losers who are stuck in this endless cycle of junk-speak. Come back to California. We will embrace you and forgive you your transgressions.

Vicki from Pasadena, originally from Ohio

Arturo Ui said...

Shouting Thomas said...
@Arturo

Maybe you should make it a little more difficult to find out that you’re a fake.

So, now that we know you’re a mole or a bot, what’s you’re purpose in being here?

Not that I’m expecting an answer.

***************

I'm just a person whose opinions you disagree with. We exist. It's normal. You shouldn't need to treat it as an existential crisis.

narciso said...


Aggressive ignorance but thats a day ending in y for her

https://www.revolver.news/2021/03/fbis-ridiculous-capitolsiege-pipe-bomb-video-is-an-all-out-assault-on-common-sense/

Shouting Thomas said...

I’m not treating it as an existential crisis, Arturo.

I’m just wondering what your role is in perpetuating the electoral fraud and censorship.

Ultimately, that’s your reason for being here.

Shouting Thomas said...

And, no, being an agent of censorship and electoral fraud is not just disagreement.

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

And yet the media has zero curiosity as to how they were manipulated. You would think this would be a huge story. So strange.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

A U said

Glenn Greenwald is a liar and a hack, but right wingers love him because he trashes the left while pretending to be a leftist.

Wrong. Your accusation of Glenn is a lie. So - who is the liar and the hack? oh - that would be YOU and your team. Did you vote for Biden? If so - you voted for a crook.

The left is corrupt.

Ken B said...

Douglas Levene
You will wait a long time. It’s a technique: someone calls Greenwald a liar. Then it becomes “Greenwald has been called a liar”. Then it becomes “Greenwald, widely reported as a liar”.

Shouting Thomas said...
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Gahrie said...

You will wait a long time. It’s a technique: someone calls Greenwald a liar. Then it becomes “Greenwald has been called a liar”. Then it becomes “Greenwald, widely reported as a liar”.

Frankly, I'm still waiting for him to acknowledge and apologize for using sock puppets at the beginning of his career. But that's my beef with him as a person. I evaluate his work independent of that.

Gahrie said...

Hunter Biden ran for president? Huh.

Tell that to Trump's family.

alanc709 said...

Arturo Ui, modern day Menshevik, thinks supporting the Bolsheviks will save him. The big lie works only with fools and people who don't care.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Joe Biden is "The Big guy". Joe Biden is as corrupt as the rest of the goons in his gross family.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Arturo, great material... but this is not a comedy blog.

Joe Smith said...

"Glenn Greenwald is a liar and a hack"

Please specify the 'liar' part.

The pushback from libs is always, 'but it's not censorship unless the government does it.'

Since they own the media they will always win in these cases.

How about conservatives push back and start dismantling welfare and every single social program using the same reasoning: 'It's not in the constitution so it's illegal.'

A man can dream...

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Drago said...
And as we speak McConnell is working with the republican controlled Kentucky legislature to take away the power of the governor (currently a LLR-approved and beloved far left dem) to appoint a replacement in the case of resignation.

As soon as that bill is passed and over riding a Gov veto, McConnell will declare he's leaving for health reasons and then off he goes.


That's awesome! I'm so glad to hear it.

After the way he sabotaged the GOP Senate candidates in GA with his "Covid" bill, I'm really ready to see him gone

Sebastian said...
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Greg The Class Traitor said...

Arturo Ui said...
Glenn Greenwald is a liar and a hack

Here's your "tell".

People who themselves are liars and hacks accusing others, without providing any evidence to support the claim.

Like Arturo did above

Sebastian said...

Blogger Sebastian said...
Blogger Shouting Thomas said...

I think he’s on a fool’s errand with the House.

The Dems are in favor of censorship and electoral fraud.

--

Yes, it's a fool's errand. Like Althouse here, Greenwald is playing the nice liberal. Still, it's good that she and Greenwald speak out.

Yes, it's a mistake to see censorship as a bug of prog hegemony. It's a feature, and progs approve.

Drago said...

chickelit: "Chuck and the "Brecht Girl" don't like Greenwald. That must mean that Greenwald is cutting too close for comfort."

LLR-lefty and pro-marxist Chuck despises Greenwald because Greenwald opposes pedophilia and child trafficking and LLR-lefty Chuck long ago established himself for those that practice those very things thru open borders and sexually deviant hacks that Chuck defends to this very day.

Do you know that Chuck is STILL vehemently defending Weaver and The Lincoln Project/Team Pedophile to this very day?

Once Banned Commenter, Who Was Banned, LLR-lefty Chuck was exposed as a full on democratical leftist in 2015/2016 posing as a conservative on blogs such as this he lost all control and let his many rather sick beliefs and threats against minorities, women and children run wild.

A devolution that at times is a marvel to behold.

But the embrace of pro-marxist Chuck by Althouse lefties speaks volumes about them as well.

tcrosse said...

An inconvenient truth (to coin a phrase) is not a lie.

Drago said...

tcrosse: "An inconvenient truth (to coin a phrase) is not a lie."

In New Soviet America, that is not true.

At least "Officially".

Inga said...
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Inga said...

Greenwald says up is down no down is up and because that is what some want to hear, they believe him and elevate his disinformation. Greenwald is using people on the right to elevate himself, as have others and people on the right fall for it every time. It never fails, say what they want to hear and they will turn that person into someone who is relevant. He may be relevant to them, but that is them. The rest of us have his number.

Shouting Thomas said...

That was unbearably stupid, Inga.

JPS said...

Arturo Ui,

"right wingers love [Greenwald] because he trashes the left while pretending to be a leftist."

Not it at all, really.

Because he doesn't carry water for the party closer to his views, when I disagree with him (which I do quite a lot) I still take him seriously. Because of this, on some issues where I used to disagree with him (e.g. government surveillance in the name of security against terrorism) I've decided he was right and I was wrong.

There are others on the left like him, and a lefty here who I won't embarrass with praise from me. But they are getting fewer and fewer.

(Whataboutism Warning: Gosh, good thing no one on the left holds out right-wing pundits who've gotten furious at the right to say, You see?! He gets it! Say, Inga – ever heard of the Lincoln Project? That was a pretty good living while it lasted.)

n.n said...

Underage delegates with "benefits". From Great Leap to one-child to selective-child... the CCP has a pragmatic, forward-looking religion.

And, of course, the Kiev collusion, with Russian patrons waiting in the wings, per chance another coup without cause.

Jim at said...

Glenn Greenwald is a liar and a hack, but right wingers love him because he trashes the left while pretending to be a leftist.

You know you're insane if you actually think Glenn Greenwald is pretending to be a leftist.

The fact you think he isn't solidly left-of-center says volumes about you. And none of it good.

n.n said...
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n.n said...

tcrosse: "An inconvenient truth (to coin a phrase) is not a lie."

The magic model indicates a convenient truth, but inconvenient facts. Some would characterize her... it as a burden. And while demos-cracy is indeed aborted in darkness, there are survivors, albeit few and far between.

wholelottasplainin' said...

Douglas B. Levene said...
. Remember: a lie is a misstatement of fact, not an opinion. I'll wait.
**********************

NO. a lie is an INTENTIONAL misstatement of fact.

But to the Left even being arguably wrong is itself a "lie".

Known Unknown said...

"The Dems are in favor of censorship and electoral fraud."

And the Republicans don't care as long as they get the scraps of the nonstop graft and grift. They'll lose gracefully with full pockets.

Drago said...

Russia Collusion Dead Ender Truthet Inga: "Greenwald says up is down no down is up and because that is what some want to hear, they believe him and elevate his disinformation."

To this very day Inga believes Putin changed vote totals in 2016 to install Trump, that Carter Page and Gen Flynn are active russian agents, that Kavanaugh led a rape gang for 2 decades, that secret boogaloo-ers controlled the nationwide antifa riots, that Trump secretly communicated with Putin via server pings between Trump Tower and Alpha Bank, and that the hoax dossier was completely proven true.

Discuss "disinformation".

Gahrie said...

I'm in a conversation right now on Facebook with people who have no desire to know what was on Hunter's laptop, and think I'm an extremist because I do.

Shouting Thomas said...

@Drago

Inga doesn’t have the IQ or the language skills to be on this board.

It’s futile to argue with her.

Drago said...

ST: "It’s futile to argue with her."

I am not arguing with her.

I am simply recounting a very small sample of her astonishing list of professed delusions spanning years.

Its fun watching "History resets every 15 minutes" Inga pose as some arbiter of rational thought. Similar to watching LLR-lefties posing as conservatives.

Shouting Thomas said...

I feel kinda bad getting in Inga’s face.

She’s coming to the wrong place. She just doesn’t have what it takes to be a competent contributor to this board.

Expecting her to make any sense out of the issues at hand is about like expecting a third grader to understand calculus.

Inga said...

It’s amusing to see who steps up and promotes himself as the newest Althouse blog gatekeeper. Unfortunately it’s usually the biggest neurotic. After yesterday’s long back and forth between you know who and you know who... it is to laugh.

Tinderbox said...

Dems: "bUt I tHoUgHt YoU cOnSeRvAtIvEs LoVeD mArKeT cApItAliSm..."

BUMBLE BEE said...

Fed Judge about the "Leader" of Oathkeepers - “There are no text message communications by him that speak to actually entering the building or trying to enter the building and ultimately he did not enter the building,” Mehta said in court, adding, “There is evidence here that I think is favorable to Mr. Caldwell.”
Here Come the Warm Jets.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Smoke that one TROLLS

Shouting Thomas said...

Inga, you’re a dummy.

Can’t you find something else to do?

You’re in completely over your head here.

Big Mike said...

Expecting her to make any sense out of the issues at hand is about like expecting a third grader to understand calculus.

Point of information, I once worked with a fellow who got his Ph.D. In math at age 16. He mastered calculus some time in elementary school, if not in third grade then not later than fifth. He was sort of smart.

chickelit said...

Gahrie said...I'm in a conversation right now on Facebook with people who have no desire to know what was on Hunter's laptop, and think I'm an extremist because I do.

That is what I ran smack into and that mindset is what I ran from. It's really chilling to realize what university professors in California believe in. It's chilling to believe that they have sold themselves for mere money.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

The FBI lies about Antifa at the Capitol - Jan 6th.

The FBI do not care AT ALL about Biden family corruption and the Hunter laptop that contains damning info.

Meanwhile in Portland

Andy Ngô
@MrAndyNgo
·
2h
Overnight on 12 March, #antifa gathered to riot in NW Portland. They began smashing up an apartment building before police quickly created a perimeter & boxed them in. Antifa were found carrying guns, knives, hammers & other weapons. 13 were arrested. https://portlandoregon.gov/police/news/re

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Russia Russia Maddow Inag has important implanted hivemind 'pinions to disseminate.

chickelit said...

This morning I made the acquaintance of an 80-year-old retired minister who is in charge of preserving a local landmark building. I'm talking physical upkeep. I told him that I had restored two homes in California but had no experience with larger commercial spaces. We meet on Monday to assess what I can do as a volunteer.

I told him I was writing a book about my father andhHe sent me a draft of his book which contains screeds about Trump. I brushed these aside and am willing to look the other way for now. But seriously, what drives these people to see just one side of Trump? I am seriously stumped. But I won't let it get to me.

chickelit said...

After reading good healthy doses of McWhorter and Greenwald, I'm convinced more than ever that older American have simply been lied to by their trusted media. But they can't see it from their recliners.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Russia Russia Inag voted for Jill Stein - someone a democratical named Hillary Clinton (and her corrupt minions) insist is a RUSSIAN ASSET.

Inag voted for a Russian asset? weird. You cannot make that up.

The left will do all they can to discredit Greenwald because anyone who attempts to burst the bubble that Biden is a crook will be discredited by the lockstep hivemind censorship approving team-members.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

You're a good man, Chickelit. but if given the chance - stand up for yourself and speak the truth about the left's lies.

chickelit said...

Inga said...It’s amusing to see who steps up and promotes himself as the newest Althouse blog gatekeeper.

I'm so old I can remember when you auditioned for that part.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

The Federal Protective Service removed the barrier around the courthouse in Portland after the city pressured them to do so in order to return “normalcy.” Almost immediately, #antifa returned to smash up the building. Now the DOJ says the fence is going back up.


But we need to worry about those evil right-wingers who are planning... what exactly? ooo something the media and the FBI cooked up.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Why do the democrats stand shoulder to shoulder with Antifa? Leverage?

#Antifa tried to smash their way into the Mark O. Hatfield federal courthouse. #PortlandRiots

as you watch that footage - realize the President of the US excuses that as "just an idea"

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

The corrupt left will cancel you.

They will. They do. Antifa thugs and far left anti-free speech zealots are the democrat's brownshirt army.

chickelit said...

They do. Antifa thugs and far left anti-free speech zealots are the democrat's brownshirt army.

The old man I mentioned up thread at 4:07 wrote in his book draft that the Antifa riots and the on Jan 6th were the same thing. I guess that from a much older person's perspective, they look indistinguishable: Civil disobedience. But that ignores the fact that the media condemned the later and excused the former.

chickelit said...

And why isn't O'Biden putting the hammer down in Portland? What a fool!

Drago said...

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe: "Russia Russia Maddow Inag has important implanted hivemind 'pinions to disseminate."

For almost 2.5 years Inga would regale us with the secret inner workings of the Mueller Shampeachment internal developments which she acquired by vulcan mind-melding mind reading.

Reading Inga back then was like watching Maddow's lunatic show where Maddow was on meth.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Note the left do not want to discuss Biden family corruption.

No - instead they attack Greenwald - as only leftists do.

Arturo Ui said...


Blogger JPS said...
Arturo Ui,

"right wingers love [Greenwald] because he trashes the left while pretending to be a leftist."

Not it at all, really.

Because he doesn't carry water for the party closer to his views, when I disagree with him (which I do quite a lot) I still take him seriously. Because of this, on some issues where I used to disagree with him (e.g. government surveillance in the name of security against terrorism) I've decided he was right and I was wrong.

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Glenn is only concerned with civil libertarian issues and military operations abroad.
That's it as far as policy positions are concerned. Aside from those, provide a single other Greenwald quote where he advocates a left-wing or liberal policy position. You can't. He doesn't have them.

Valentine Smith said...

Hey Shoutiing Thomas:
What's the difference between the Lace Curtain Irish and the Shanty Irish?
The lace curtain Irish move the dishes before pissing in the kitchen sink!

I'm half Irish too.

Mutaman said...

Glenn Greenwald is America’s Piers Morgan

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Drago - yes. Mueller - the old screw-up who couldn't figure it out. Trump and his Russia Russia got away with it! Strange how Biden's high gas prices and left's shut down of US energy production equal an amazing gift to Putin. Just another happy coincidence.

Meanwhile - many on the left enjoy acting like Soviets. &! Antifa web-sites are run on secret platforms from the Philippines and ... wait for it.... Russia.

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Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Greenwald was canceled by his fellow left travelers.

Exposing corruption is nothing new for Glenn. It pisses-off the left that he exposes them. How dare he! You do not go against their orthodoxy (the mob) -You do not cross The Party.
no enemies on the left and all leftwing crime is A-OK! excused.. with excuses.

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Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

There is no doubt that Biden's family took part in major illegal international financial personal gain using Joe's name and power - and that money ultimately came from the US Tax payer.

Hunter and Joe on Air Force Two. - photographed with the players... and somehow the media insist that "Joe knows nothing!"

The big guy.

chickelit said...

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...
Note the left do not want to discuss Biden family corruption.

I kind of get that they are bored with the loser character that is Hunter Biden--who is for Hunter Biden? But they ignore the "Big Guy" corruption/payoff that the laptop made clear. Lefties like the Brecht Girl here also don't want to talk about credible harassment charges against Biden. They love the doddering old fool simply because he's not Trump. I can't wait for this to all blow up in their face.

Francisco D said...

chickelit said...After reading good healthy doses of McWhorter and Greenwald, I'm convinced more than ever that older American have simply been lied to by their trusted media. But they can't see it from their recliners.

That describes a lot of people I know, most of whom are not sitting in recliners.

I think you underestimate the amount of propaganda that people are fed on a daily basis. These are not bad people. They are misinformed and cannot comprehend the idea that the media lies to them.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

The Sovietization of the American Press
The transformation from phony "objectivity" to open one-party orthodoxy hasn't been an improvement
-Matt Taibbi

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

chickelit-

5:37

That's why they are working overtime on "cheat the vote forever" legislation.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

NBC, CNN and MSNBC are poison.

Shouting Thomas said...

Aside from those, provide a single other Greenwald quote where he advocates a left-wing or liberal policy position. You can't. He doesn't have them.

Greenwald is a journalist, in the old sense of the word, a concept you don’t understand.

So far as I can tell, he’s not in the business of advocating policy positions.

Shouting Thomas said...

It’s very odd that people think that opposing censorship and electoral fraud is a partisan policy issue.

stevew said...

From what I can tell, Greenwald is a liberal, but that never finds its way into his journalistic activities. In that role he is a truth seeker and teller. He can be trusted.

Matt Sablan said...

Greenwald seems to me to be fairly classically liberal when it comes to First Amendment issues (though, from what I can see, he's also modern day liberal on healthcare.) And that's just from perusing his tweets.

Matt Sablan said...

Hey! Here's a Greenwald quote that shows he's an honest leftist when it comes to criticisms of Immigration policy: "Make sure to say “kids in cages” as many times as you can for the next few weeks because starting on January 20, 2021, that phrase is going to disappear from the lexicon so fast it’s going to make your head spin, even though there will still be plenty of kids in cages." That's from Nov. 14, 2020.

Matt Sablan said...

Here's Greenwald taking a very liberal position: We shouldn't ban books: "The fact that this recent spate of book bans is aimed at something so seemingly trivial (and yes, they were bans as well voluntary discontinuance: by EBay and libraries) makes it more menacing, not less.

If even old kids' cartoons & the like can now be banned, what can't be?"

Matt Sablan said...

Hey, here's a position that is fairly solidly liberal/Democrat -- or at least it was, when Republicans are in charge! "And predictably -- just as happened during the Cold War, Oklahoma City, & 9/11 attack -- FBI is now using the threat of "insurrectionists" and "domestic terrorism" to justify greater surveillance powers. That's why exaggerating the threat is so dangerous."

It seems like the problem isn't that Greenwald stopped being liberal. The party left him, so to speak.

Matt Sablan said...

"It is no surprise that the rhetorical leaders now are the same lowlife neocon and Rovian slanderers — Bill Kristol, David Frum, Steve Schmidt, Nicolle Wallace, Rick Wilson — who demonized all who questioned the first War on Terror as traitors, terrorist-lovers and subversives." -- Glenn Greenwald, noted non-Liberal.

"In 2017, we profiled a same-sex couple in Brazil who set out to adopt a child only to find out he had two siblings and adopted all three (https://theintercept.com/2017/02/06/a-same-sex-couple-set-out-to-adopt-a-child-they-ended-up-with-three/). We then did a short film. Decide for yourself if they'd be better off left in an orphanage:" -- Glenn Greenwald, noted guy who never posts or does anything regarding left-leaning politics.

Shouting Thomas said...

I just looked through all of Greenwald’s recent essays at Substack, and I don’t see one that advocates a policy position.

His articles are entirely about official corruption, censorship and the use of panics to compel government action.

Matt Sablan said...

Shouting Thomas: That's why I had to go to his Twitter, where his personal opinion (as well as his editorials), leak through more. For example, here you can find him supporting the Fight for $15: "He didn't pretend. He said he was opposed to an across-the-board increase and favored a $15/hr minimum wage for large corporations, not small businesses. I don't agree but he was candid about his views... I'm not defending it. I favor the full-scale minimum wage nationwide raise that just got rejected and that he voted against, and don't believe it will cost jobs on balance. Just saying if you do believe that, the bill to raise it for big companies isn't anti-worker." https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1367892121584295937

Jim at said...

Notice how the leftists on this board are focused on whether or not Greenwald is a leftist and not pointing out where or why he's wrong?

Wonder why...

gilbar said...

it's important, to remember; that THIS WAS JUST FINE, because it was done for the democrats
LONG LIVE BIG BROTHER!!!

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Biden is a crook.
The collective left do not care.

Arturo Ui said...

Matt Sablan said...
Hey! Here's a Greenwald quote that shows he's an honest leftist when it comes to criticisms of Immigration policy: "Make sure to say “kids in cages” as many times as you can for the next few weeks because starting on January 20, 2021, that phrase is going to disappear from the lexicon so fast it’s going to make your head spin, even though there will still be plenty of kids in cages." That's from Nov. 14, 2020.

3/13/21, 6:08 PM

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That is not a policy endorsement. Read closer. He's merely highlighting what he perceives as media covering different administrations differently. Notice he never says he's for or against "kids in cages". But he's trained all of you to believe he is a "liberal leftist". He's not.

Shouting Thomas said...

Arturo,

You dummy, Greenwald is an investigative journalist, not a policy maker or activist.

He actually does journalism.

You’re kinda dense and confused.

Shouting Thomas said...

Now, tell me how objecting to media censorship and electoral manipulation before Congress strikes you as advocating a policy position.

If you can.

I notice that you keep avoiding the actual subject of this post and keep insisting on talking about something that is irrelevant to this post.

That’s a con game you’re playing.

Arturo Ui said...

Shouting Thomas said...
Arturo,

You dummy, Greenwald is an investigative journalist, not a policy maker or activist.

He actually does journalism.

You’re kinda dense and confused.

*****************

Hey sweetheart, my response was to the right wrong fantasy that Greenwald is a member of the left. Not about his claims to being a journalist. Try to keep up.

It also bears repeating that Glenn was recently fired from his own magazine for refusing to have an editor. Think about that when you're praising his fake "journalism".

Shouting Thomas said...

Who had that fantasy, and how does that relate to opposing censorship and electoral manipulation, moron?

Greenwald’s personal political beliefs have nothing to do with that.

Now, quit trying to avoid the actual subject of this post. You’re doing that because you don’t have any ammo, shithead.

Shouting Thomas said...

Greenwald actually created that magazine and he intended it to be free of editorial control.

You’re a stupid liar.

Shouting Thomas said...

I just checked.

Greenwald wasn’t fired, you fucking liar. He resigned over the issue of Lancet buckling under to editorial control. He founded the magazine precisely to be immune from that.

Arturo Ui said...

Shouting Thomas said...
I just checked.

*****************

"I actually went and read a thing, you stoopid meanie liar. I have godlike powers now! Kneel before Zod!"

(he was fired for refusing to be edited)

Robert Cook said...

"The Republicans are the only party that could conceivably be considered for the workers...."

No, they cannot as they are not.

Arturo Ui said...

Shouting Thomas said...
Greenwald actually created that magazine and he intended it to be free of editorial control.

You’re a stupid liar.

3/13/21, 7:25 PM

***************

That's the dumbest thing ever written. The Intercept has a ton of editors and always has. Glenn simply wrote his own clause in his own personal contract that he could never be edited. He extended no such privilege to any other writer and regularly edited their work. This is all public knowledge. But you're a fucking moron who doesn't know anything.

Shouting Thomas said...

You’re a deliberate liar, Arturo.

Do a Google of “Glenn Greenwald Leaves Intercept.”

Every article (and there are a lot of them) reports that he resigned.

Who are you working for, you fucking liar?

Shouting Thomas said...

I notice that you still refuse to address the actual substance of this post, Greenwald’s testimony before Congress about Facebook and Twitter censorship.

You’re doing that deliberately.

Arturo Ui said...

It's called "resign before we toss you out on your ass, you lying hack dope".

chickelit said...

Nowadays, anyone who wishes to combat lies and ignorance and to write the truth must overcome at least five difficulties. He must have the courage to write the truth when truth is everywhere opposed; the keenness to recognize it, although it is everywhere concealed; the skill to manipulate it as a weapon; the judgment to select those in whose hands it will be effective; and the running to spread the truth among such persons.

~Bertolt Brecht

Shouting Thomas said...

Glenn simply wrote his own clause in his own personal contract that he could never be edited.

Thank you for admitting that you’ve been deliberately lying all day.

Shouting Thomas said...

Now that you’ve admitted that you’ve been deliberately lying all day, who’s you employer?

Robert Cook said...

"I’m sure you know this, but Althouse’s blog is under constant surveillance and is often visited by moles and provocateurs."

What makes you contrive such a notion? "Moles and provocateurs" acting on whose behalf, for what purpose?

Shouting Thomas said...

Not incidentally, the story that the Intercept wanted to censor is the subject of this post.

His employer agreed to Greenwald’s contract stipulation, moron. What difference does it make who wrote it?

Shouting Thomas said...

What makes you contrive such a notion? "Moles and provocateurs" acting on whose behalf, for what purpose?

On behalf of the NSA, CIA and FBI.

For the purpose of discrediting Althouse and giving her blog hosting company ammo to shut her down.

Althouse has been writing about this for months, about how she can fashions her own statements to avoid that.

She’s not the only one. Watch Scott Adams. He constantly speaks about structuring what he says to avoid being deplatformed.

Inga said...

“What makes you contrive such a notion?”

IMO, it’s either pathological or drama queenery, probably both.

Arturo Ui said...

Don't cry, honey. Glenn will always have marks like you to shake money out of. He'll be ok.

Shouting Thomas said...

I don’t subscribe to Substack.

You’re using the diversion tactic again.

Try, you vicious, rotten bastard, to actually address the issue of this post.

The issue is not Greenwald’s party affiliation or whether I subscribe to Substack.

Who do you work for?

Inga said...

I think he’s auditioning for the part of Most Important Althouse Blog Contributor and Protector, in his own mind.

Shouting Thomas said...

Inga, you’re a fucking moron.

Go play with the children. You’re not up to this.

If you’re going to stay, discuss the actual issue of this post, media censorship and electoral manipulation.

I notice that you keep avoiding that subject, too.


Shouting Thomas said...

So, any takers?

Anybody want to actually discuss the issue of this post, or are you going to continue to try to bury that issue by speculating about Greenwald’s political affiliation?

Inga said...

“The Republicans are the only party that could conceivably be considered for the workers...."

“No, they cannot as they are not.”

Unions are on the rise, under a Democratic Administration.

Shouting Thomas said...

So, Inga, you refuse to address the actual issue of this post?

That’s what I figured.

You are horrifyingly stupid, Inga.

Go play somewhere where you can actually compete.

chickelit said...

Shouting Thomas said...
I don’t subscribe to Substack.

I don't either but I'm seriously tempted to and not just for Greenwald but for McWhorter and others. These writers are all under concerted attack by the Left. It must be professional jealousy because the true hack writers at the usual places are on short editorial leashes.

Shouting Thomas said...

It’s not professional jealousy, chickelit.

It’s an organized attack by the DNC.

Shouting Thomas said...

The issue of what’s on Hunter Biden’s laptop must be incredibly explosive.

The DNC, Facebook and Twitter have launched an all out attack to bury the story.

Hercules, not that one though said...

Democrats should keep the razor wire up at the 24hr a day cesspit we call our Capitol City.
The National Guard have rifles but the Democrats and Military Brass don't trust them with ammo. They shouldn't. Their M-16s take the same rounds as an AR-15. Brothers in arms are willing to share.

Steal an American election, and put an Occupant in the White House? Reap the whirlwind.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Unions are merely a tax on workers that goes straight into democrat coffers.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

arturo liar--
Wondering - is all bad news and negative info about anyone in The Party - "a lie" as you say?

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

any lefty here think Biden is a crook?

Inga said...

The National Guard have rifles but the Democrats and Military Brass don't trust them with ammo. They shouldn't.”


Pentagon Authorizes National Guard Members in D.C. to Carry Weapons




Hercules, not that one though said...

Yes, Inga. They have weapons. "They are authorized to open fire..." That statement is a bluff. They have no bullets. The Pentagon can't trust them with live rounds. The soldiers are Americans. The perfumed Princesses of the Pentagon wet themselves when they think of the men under arms getting loaded magazines for their rifles on American soil.

The Pentagon is excellent when it comes to issuing Tranny Sensitivity Training. They are Obama Staff Officers. They cannot command men. They never had to.

Butkus51 said...

"Unions are on the rise".

So are Amazon jobs. Soon, most will all be forced to sit in and have Amazon deliver "things" to them like pot and Funyons. People wont complain, because most will work for Amazon. Many will be more than happy with the situation.

Pullman 2.0



The Crack Emcee said...

"Glenn Greenwald before the House Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law yesterday."

What's the point? Nothing ever happens.

Lurker21 said...

There are people who criticize Clinton or Obama or Biden/Harris from the left who are acceptable to conservatives. Writers lauded for their attacks on the Clintons or on Biden shouldn't surprise you when they come out for Bernie Sanders. There are people who criticize Bush or Trump from the right who are taken up by liberals. Criticizing Bush from the right and criticizing Trump from the right are very different things, because the political landscape changed so much in recent years. You could get whiplash from how quickly the political environment changes. I wouldn't get hung up on labels, or hung up on personalities.

The Drill SGT said...

The National Guard have rifles but the Democrats and Military Brass don't trust them with ammo. They shouldn't.”

I assure you, there are men in those units with live ammo. Nearly 40 years ago when I commanded, whenever we took weapons out of the arms room, somebody carried live ammo. The only thing more embarrassing to the Army and career ending than losing a weapon would be fore somebody to come up and take automatic weapons from defenseless soldiers.

Normally, I assigned the guy I trusted most with my troops safety and my career to carry the ammo.

Me

auto weapons in DC without any protection for them? laughable

Sam L. said...

TWITTER DELENDA EST!!!!!11111!!!!!

rwnutjob said...

The FBI has had that laptop for over a year now. We will never know what's on it.

The Crack Emcee said...

rwnutjob said...
The FBI has had that laptop for over a year now. We will never know what's on it.

If Wealth determines outcomes [in American justice] not culpability, then you're right and America is a lie.