Althouse: At the Headless Snowman Café...

February 23, 2021

At the Headless Snowman Café...

... you can talk about whatever you want.

190 comments:

farmgirl said...: Oh no’s! Is his head gone?; 2/23/21, 6:49 PM
rehajm said...: The Federalist has been diligent in updating their Biden lie tracker. Very informative for those if us who abandoned propaganda news...

I doubt it will gain much publicity.; 2/23/21, 6:52 PM
Achilles said...: It would have been better if the snowman had his head and orange face.

Then we could discuss his fake tan and the effect orange skin has on people's perceptions of him.

So lets just pretend he still has his head and the orange coloration the sun provides is cool.; 2/23/21, 6:58 PM
Owen said...: Headless in Mendota.

A new epic poem.; 2/23/21, 7:04 PM
chuck said...: No mask! Off with his head.; 2/23/21, 7:04 PM
narciso said...: A twenty year expedition is not a good look

https://mobile.twitter.com/RobbieGramer/status/1364276904723906561; 2/23/21, 7:11 PM
Whiskeybum said...: Good Grammar rule for Feb. 23:

Always pick on the correct idiom.; 2/23/21, 7:14 PM
narciso said...: Oh now its ok

https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamBaldwin/status/1364288776172789761; 2/23/21, 7:14 PM
Achilles said...: People don't have ideas. Ideas have people.

How long has it been since you changed a major ideological position you once held?; 2/23/21, 7:14 PM
farmgirl said...: I enjoy the good grammar rules- you’d appreciate the Saturday night joke from Ace 2weeks ago: the punch line was how you end up w/a dangling participle:0). Orange is the new... black; 2/23/21, 7:18 PM
Hari said...: Cntrl F at https://www.memeorandum.com/

Trump = 7
Biden = 6; 2/23/21, 7:24 PM
narciso said...: You didnt see this coming

https://mobile.twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1364373706647232514; 2/23/21, 7:35 PM
Joe Smith said...: Samurai sword?; 2/23/21, 7:38 PM
StephenFearby said...: Bret Stephens (NYT) Feb. 22, 2021

Woke Me When It’s Over
In the humorless world of Woke, the satire is never funny and the statute of limitations never expires, even when it comes to hamantaschen.

'In 2015, Bon Appétit ran an article by the food writer Dawn Perry about hamantaschen, the triangular cookies that are a tradition during the Jewish festival of Purim. It was headlined — brace yourself for outrage — “How to Make Actually Good Hamantaschen.”

Six years later, a woman named Abigail Koffler found the article while researching hamantaschen fillings. She was not amused.

Perry, Koffler wrote on Twitter, isn’t Jewish. Perry’s husband, Koffler added, had been forced out of his job at Condé Nast last year based on accusations of racial bias. Above all, Koffler objected, “Traditional foods do not automatically need to be updated, especially by someone who does not come from that tradition.”

Most Jews would probably be grateful for an “actually good” hamantasch. Yet within hours of Koffler’s tweets, Bon Appétit responded with an editor’s note atop the article, now renamed “5 Steps to Really Good Hamantaschen.” It’s a note that defies summary, parody and belief...'

What's MUCH MORE interesting is the VERY LARGE NUMBER of politically incorrect comments in the "Reader's Picks" column. Two examples:

KM ct
10h ago
Times Pick
931 Recommended

I am a young liberal, and this wing of the democratic party frightens me. The far-right does have a point when they talk about the "radical left-wing cancel culture". Although plenty of what they say is immoral there is a little thing called the FIRST AMENDMENT. It says in short: you can speak your mind freely.

The AOC wing of the party must stop 'cancelling' anybody when they call them something other than their uber-specific identification - especially when the way the identify themselves every few months.

Gina Carano's comments of late were distasteful, but did she deserve to lose her job? No. Her right to free speech is enshrined in the Constitution, just like the rights of the few who can cancel her through the anonymity of social media.

In short- the radical woke left must stop canceling anyone that dares to exercise their right to free speech - regardless of whether it offends them or not. The way they are going right now, they will lose the House and the Senate next year - and deserve it. The white suburban voters that voted blue in 2020 will not hesitate to switch sides in 2022. It is time for the Democratic party to go back to the ideals of free speech it embodies, and reject the woke left's cancel culture.

SS US 6h ago
"wokeism is cancer. It's not just isolated incidents - it's creeping into many aspects of mainstream life. The SF board of education recently voted to rename schools named after Abraham Lincoln and Paul Revere. Public schools have been closed in SF for nearly a year. 85% of SF public school students are children of color. The performative wokeism that's entrenched in every aspect of SF politics hurts low-income families the most. This was also the same board that decided that a gay parent of a mixed-race child wasn't "diverse enough", and scrapped merit-based admissions to one of SF's premier public schools.

'...Wokeism needs to be nipped in the bud, or else it'll end up turning a huge swathe of working-class folks, especially low-income people of color solid Republicans.'

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/22/opinion/bon-appetit-cancel-culture.html; 2/23/21, 7:40 PM
Achilles said...: narciso said...

You didnt see this coming

https://mobile.twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1364373706647232514

Democrats and Neocons want the ME to be a dumpster fire. They just will not allow peace to be a thing there.

I wonder what interest Biden was protecting when his first actual action as president was to send troops immediately back into Syria.; 2/23/21, 7:40 PM
DavidUW said...: Even idiots who had wondered if the vaccines prevented transmission are starting to acknowledge the obvious, that it does.
(Instapundit links).; 2/23/21, 7:44 PM
narciso said...: Thats how vaccines are supposed to work, edward jenner is rolling over.; 2/23/21, 7:48 PM
narciso said...: Syria is in the middle of a pipeline from watar to the black sea.; 2/23/21, 7:50 PM
gspencer said...: Headless snowman?

Muslims are everywhere. No infidel is safe.; 2/23/21, 7:50 PM
Inga said...: For Wisconsin residents. While I’d like to have gotten my shot by now, I’m glad teachers and child care workers can now get theirs.

Wisconsin teachers will be eligible for the vaccine starting Monday

"This is a group that is essential," Willems Van Dijk said. "We want our kids in school ... and we know teachers work every day with a population that is not able to be vaccinated because of their age.

"The important thing for people to remember is a shot in the arm is another person protected in the state," she added. "We will all get our turn."

Willems Van Dijk also emphasized that people who are 65 or older who have not yet received their vaccine will not be crowded out, noting that the federal allotment of vaccines to Wisconsin has increased from roughly 70,000 doses per week to 115,000 doses per week.

"I understand if you’re in the half of folks 65 and older who have not yet received your vaccine that you may be anxious about whether you’re ever going to get one, and I can assure you you will," Willems Van Dijk said. "There is more vaccine coming."“; 2/23/21, 7:51 PM
Gospace said...: Got a call from my primary care physician's office today. Wanted to know if I wanted to come in for my first dreaded covid vaccination shot tomorrow. For reasons- I wasn't subject to the NY rules and could have finished both shots by now as my younger fearful coworkers have. I rather shocked the young lady on the other end when I said I wasn't interested in getting the vaccine- at all. I suspect that because she said back to me in a surprised voice- "You're not?"

Today I talked to a younger acquaintance with an entirely different circle of coworkers and friends. He's observed the same thing I have- for otherwise healthy people, reactions to the second shot are worse than actual dreaded covid symptoms.

Threadreaderapp hasn't had much of interest lately. One thread today caught my eye, with a rather succinct summary of how I feel about requiring proof of vaccination to travel within the United States. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1364327654900584456.html; 2/23/21, 7:56 PM
Original Mike said...: "Willems Van Dijk also emphasized that people who are 65 or older who have not yet received their vaccine will not be crowded out,"

Bullshit. IF UW honors my current appointment in 4 weeks, it will have been 7 weeks out from them contacting me to sign up. And they're opening up invitations to a new group?; 2/23/21, 7:59 PM
Lawrence Person said...: Paul Martin's after-action report on the Texas winter storm.; 2/23/21, 8:00 PM
Inga said...: “Today I talked to a younger acquaintance with an entirely different circle of coworkers and friends. He's observed the same thing I have- for otherwise healthy people, reactions to the second shot are worse than actual dreaded covid symptoms.”

It’s not simply about not getting Covid oneself. If you want everything to be open, no mask mandates and social distancing, herd immunity through mass vaccination is the way it’s going to happen. Why cut off your nose to spite your face?

I know of people in their late 70’s who have gotten both vaccines and didn’t regret getting the second dose and said it wasn’t that bad and are grateful to not end up like friends and relatives who didn’t survive Covid.; 2/23/21, 8:07 PM
stephen cooper said...: Vaccine is about 75 percent effective for the first few weeks, but appears to lose effectiveness much quicker than actual immune system anti-bodies.

Side effects are brutal ---- not genocide level brutal, but trillion dollar lawsuit brutal (But Trump and Fauci agreed that the makers would not be civilly liable_.

Anyone under 70 who gets both doses of the main vaccine probably has not read the warnings.

Either the virus is an escaped effect-improved bioweapon or it is a new contestant in world dominance of pain and death. In the first instance, the vaccine will more likely hurt than help. In the second instance, nobody knows ----- it is much harder to figure out things that nature spews out than to figure out the newest generation of bioweapons.

But hey, what do I know?; 2/23/21, 8:09 PM
Gospace said...: Just read another article supposedly from a doctor claiming that of course you can get the same dreaded covid virus again, probably 11-12 months after the first time, because nobody knows how long the immunity lasts. Notice that weasel wording- no one knows how long the immunity lasts. For every other virus in the world, influenza, smallpox, measles, any other, you get it once, that's it. It's over and done with for you, for life. You can't get that particular virus again. But the dreaded covid virus is magically different from all others, it can infect you again and again and again, and will always be a public health threat.

No link because I don't believe in spreading completely false made up misinformation like this. But it's a false soundbite that keeps showing up- getting and recovering from the dreaded covid virus doesn't make you immune- you must always live in fear of it! Which is complete scientific BS. I'm not fearful of it now, and never will be.; 2/23/21, 8:11 PM
narciso said...: They were doing research at wuhan they wont tell us what was were the results even though a half dozen governments funded.; 2/23/21, 8:12 PM
Inga said...: “Vaccine is about 75 percent effective for the first few weeks, but appears to lose effectiveness much quicker than actual immune system anti-bodies.

But hey, what do I know?”

Not much apparently.; 2/23/21, 8:12 PM
stephen cooper said...: Maybe next time, when people in a country famous for eating every kind of animal there is, including bats and dogs that were tortured to death, develop an infectious illness that might kill hundreds of millions ----- just saying, maybe next time that happens, maybe we should ask that country not to send their citizens abroad until they figure out how to stop the menace? Is that too much to ask???? I Mean, I like CHinese people, but what were we thinking when we did not close the borders immediately?

Why is it easier to cause pain and suffering for billions of people in countries that do not eat every part of every animal, bats included???; 2/23/21, 8:13 PM
stephen cooper said...: Inga - you are ignorant on the subject, I have looked at thousands of specific results.

Now you might not believe me, but the honest thing is to look at those specific results, and tell me where I am wrong.

Grow up and be a decent human being.; 2/23/21, 8:14 PM
Gospace said...: It’s not simply about not getting Covid oneself. If you want everything to be open, no mask mandates and social distancing, herd immunity through mass vaccination is the way it’s going to happen. Why cut off your nose to spite your face?

If we wanted everything to be open it could be accomplished in several ways.

Mass civil disobedience.

Tarring and feathering of politicians who support Dictator Cuomo and his ilk.

Rope, lamppost, and assembly with Dictator Cuomo and his ilk.

But Ingas (or Karens, interchangeable) insist that we all act like frightened ninnies and conform or else!; 2/23/21, 8:16 PM
stephen cooper said...: Gospace - the reason nobody knows how long it lasts is because nobody knows if the fatal spike comes from bioweaponed, unprecedented capabilities on the part of the poor little virus (which is, in case you did not know, not really a biological entity) or if the fatal spike is just a variation on the evolved fatal spikes of all the previous coronavirus forebears.

I am not scared either ---- if it is a bioweapon, the makers will eventually be caught out, if it is not, the virus will fade out because viruses always fade out, with a few exceptions not applicable here ----- but I am sort of disappointed in the COMPLETE IGNORANCE shown by so many about what we are dealing with here.; 2/23/21, 8:17 PM
stephen cooper said...: Cuomo - criminal
Fauci - shyster
Trump - gullible supporter of Fauci
Biden - Cuomo's friend; 2/23/21, 8:18 PM
DavidUW said...: He's observed the same thing I have- for otherwise healthy people, reactions to the second shot are worse than actual dreaded covid symptoms.
>>
Well, I didn't have COVID, but the second shot gave me a solid 12 hours of chills.

But that was about it.; 2/23/21, 8:19 PM
narciso said...: Mind arson is toxic

https://mobile.twitter.com/JanJekielek/status/1364357377575821314; 2/23/21, 8:20 PM
Inga said...: “LONDON (AP) — Two U.K. studies released Monday showed that COVID-19 vaccination programs are contributing to a sharp drop in hospitalizations, boosting hopes that the shots will work as well in the real world as they have in carefully controlled studies.

Preliminary results from a study in Scotland found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine reduced hospital admissions by up to 85% four weeks after the first dose, while the Oxford-AstraZeneca shot cut admissions by up to 94%. In England, preliminary data from a study of health care workers showed that the Pfizer vaccine reduced the risk of catching COVID-19 by 70% after one dose, a figure that rose to 85% after the second.”

https://apnews.com/article/world-news-public-health-scotland-coronavirus-pandemic-coronavirus-vaccine-fd60feb6dc54e45e96089d92e891ead7; 2/23/21, 8:22 PM
narciso said...: I think among most of those, trump tried a rational path using therapeutics like hcq; 2/23/21, 8:22 PM
stephen cooper said...: If the reaction to a shot is worse than the disease, the likely lingering aftereffects of the shot are likely worse than the aftereffects of the disease.

With a few exceptions for recurring ailments.

Not many reports of young women losing their babies to late-term miscarriage from Covid. After the first 2 weeks of vaccines, reports of miscarriages from Covid vaccine were censored.; 2/23/21, 8:23 PM
stephen cooper said...: Inga - notice the use of percentages rather than numbers.; 2/23/21, 8:24 PM
mandrewa said...: "Just read another article supposedly from a doctor claiming that of course you can get the same dreaded covid virus again, probably 11-12 months after the first time, because nobody knows how long the immunity lasts."

It's a coronavirus so a lot of people will get basically the same virus over and over again throughout their lives. We can project that based on our collective experience with the other coronaviruses.

It's a coronavirus so second and later infections will be experienced as a cold unless this is really a bioweapon that has been modified in some unnatural way.

All of the vaccines that I have looked into have 100% success rates by a certain number of days after the vaccine is given. The number of days varies with the vaccine. But for all of them it's eventually 100% success.

And success means that you don't die or you don't get seriously ill as in needing to be hospitalized. It does not mean you never get the coronavirus. You do get it. You will get it, over and over again if it's like the other coronaviruses.

So I don't know where this idea is coming from that the vaccine loses effectiveness with time. That is not what the clinical trials show.

Of course we can define success down and insist no one ever gets a cold again. And I can just see certain parties doing that.

But in reality people may only need to be vaccinated once. Because that will get you past the first infection and then it's no more danger than any other cold virus.; 2/23/21, 8:28 PM
Mark said...: If you want everything to be open, no mask mandates and social distancing, herd immunity through mass vaccination is the way it’s going to happen.

Sorry, that was all last year. Current SCIENCE, per Fauci, is that even with vaccination, everyone should stay out of restaurants and theaters and should continue to mask and distance and never socialize with others.; 2/23/21, 8:30 PM
Inga said...: https://www.biospace.com/article/real-world-study-in-uk-demonstrated-70-percent-drop-in-covid-19-after-1st-pfizer-shot/

“Public Health England (PHE) published real-world analyses of people in the U.K. who had received the first shot of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. The data, which were published in The Lancet, showed that there was a decrease of about 70% in infections among healthcare workers after the first shot.

This is a similar study, in many ways, to what was recently announced by Israel’s Health Minister, which demonstrated that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 98.9% effective at preventing COVID-19 deaths, 99.2% effective in preventing serious disease, decreased morbidity by 95.8% and decreased the likelihood of hospitalization by 98.9%.

Unlike the U.K. study, the Israel study focused on both doses, whereas the Israeli study focused on the data after the first initial dose. The U.K. has extended the gap between the two doses to 12 weeks, although three weeks is the recommended span between the two shots. The goal in the U.K. is to get as many people as possible, especially those at high risk, vaccinated with at least partial immunity.

The PHE data indicated that a single dose decreases the overall risk of being infected by more than 70%, which increased to 85% after the second dose. It also showed that a single dose is 57% effective against symptomatic COVID-19 in people over the age of 80. The effect takes place about three to four weeks after the first dose. And early data hints the second dose in the over-80 age group improves protection against symptomatic disease by another 30%, to more than 85%“; 2/23/21, 8:30 PM
farmgirl said...: Gospace: Please-
Ingas and Karens are NOT interchangeable. I know everyone gets off throwing the Karen name at whatever nosey, know-it-all biotch opens her yap about things she has no clue about- but, some Karens are quiet when it comes to other ppls business. Names are given at birth(usually) by their parents and I have no clue where the hell my dad ever heard that name- stationed in Germany, perhaps? So, have fun w/it...

But- I’m no Inga.; 2/23/21, 8:34 PM
stephen cooper said...: Israeli deaths have gone down slower than deaths in similar countries with exponentially less vaccination.

Why?

My best guess - the vaccine success stories are people who are super careful anyway.
Vaccine has the average success of flu vaccines - 75 percent.

On the other hand, the current vaccines have killed many many people, but that is censored ---- and if the vaccines are killing many, they will likely have worse lingering side effects than vaccines (like the seasonal flu vaccine) that do not kill many.

So basically, all Israel is showing is that (a) vaccines work as well as nature does in countries without the vaccine. Side effects and lingering harm to immune systems and fertility ----NOBODY KNOWS.

Inga, for the love of God, try and realize that I am speaking reasonably here.; 2/23/21, 8:34 PM
Mark said...: ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THE VACCINE?? ARE YOU???

You know, for most folks, it is very premature to even ask, but less demand it.

There is nothing wrong with being polite and let others go before you. No need to insist that the world cater to you NOW, NOW, NOW. Deciding to go to the end of the line can hardly be said to be a wrong thing.; 2/23/21, 8:37 PM
Inga said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 2/23/21, 8:37 PM
narciso said...: She doesnt care

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1364305902875123714

Andrea palm was one of the worst choices except for her successor; 2/23/21, 8:38 PM
stephen cooper said...: In other words, of course people who get vaccinated are gonna die at lesser rates than people who don't because THOSE PEOPLE WERE ALWAYS MORE CAREFUL BUT WE NEVER PREVIOUSLY HAD A MARKER TO SHOW THAT, the vaccine is the marker.

It is called a ghost effect by statisticians.

And yes, there is also the real 75 percent protection ---- against a disease which for people in their 60s is almost never fatal.

We don't need to argue over vaccines, we need better vaccines, designed by smarter people. And, sad to say, the average laboratory vaccine designer of today is just not someone you want to bet your future health or the future health of your family on, particularly not when the laboratory vaccine designer has (a) been rushed into producing something and (b) has been told there will be no lawsuits if he or she harms untold numbers of people by a bad design.; 2/23/21, 8:38 PM
Inga said...: “There is nothing wrong with being polite and let others go before you.”

Indeed. I’m glad that teachers are able to get the vaccine before me.; 2/23/21, 8:39 PM
Mark said...: In science fiction stories, mass vaccination is how the aliens or other evildoers make humanity infertile.; 2/23/21, 8:41 PM
narciso said...: That happened with the yasen in stargate among other examples; 2/23/21, 8:42 PM
stephen cooper said...: by the way, is stargate worth watching - i tried but the first episodes were very, I don't know, cheap 80s. should i try babylon 5 instead?; 2/23/21, 8:45 PM
Fritz said...: In other words, of course people who get vaccinated are gonna die at lesser rates than people who don't because THOSE PEOPLE WERE ALWAYS MORE CAREFUL BUT WE NEVER PREVIOUSLY HAD A MARKER TO SHOW THAT, the vaccine is the marker.

Which is why vaccine trials have a control group.; 2/23/21, 8:46 PM
Inga said...: “We don't need to argue over vaccines, we need better vaccines, designed by smarter people. And, sad to say, the average laboratory vaccine designer of today is just not someone you want to bet your future health or the future health of your family on, particularly not when the laboratory vaccine designer has (a) been rushed into producing something and (b) has been told there will be no lawsuits if he or she harms untold numbers of people by a bad design.”

Like you Stephen?

I hope that people here have the discernment to consider that there is a good chance that Stephen Cooper is a performance artist getting his kicks showing his “stuff” here in the Cafe threads.; 2/23/21, 8:46 PM
narciso said...: Yes the first couple of seasons to hit its stride, babylon 5 is more operatic really starts cooking in season 2 when they replaced o'hare with boxleitner; 2/23/21, 8:47 PM
Mark said...: It bears mentioning too that the demand that people be vaccinated, or even call for compulsory vaccination, is more than a little white supremacy/privilege on display.

The fact is that a lot of Black folks don't want the vaccine and y'all need to check your whiteness in demanding that they take it. You don't own Black people anymore.; 2/23/21, 8:48 PM
Inga said...: “It bears mentioning too that the demand that people be vaccinated, or even call for compulsory vaccination, is more than a little white supremacy/privilege on display.”

Who is demanding? Who is calling for compulsory vaccinations? You people sure do like borrowing trouble.; 2/23/21, 8:52 PM
mandrewa said...: "Indeed. I’m glad that teachers are able to get the vaccine before me."

I don't know how old you are Inga. But if you are over 70 then your risk is significantly higher than that of a teacher. In fact if you are over 65 then your risk is significantly higher.

I can see vaccinating teachers that are over 50. That seems reasonable.

But I think in most of the country they are, right now, vaccinating people are 65 and over plus a number of additional categories.

And that's unfortunate. Because the priority should be those over 65 plus nursing home workers plus health care workers plus those that clinically are at high risk, which is a medical description that doctors will be implementing that applies to about 2% of the population that is under 65.

And anyone else getting it right now -- they are doing something kind of wrong -- because they are taking it from someone else that needs it more.

Unless the vaccine is about to expire and will go to waste otherwise.; 2/23/21, 8:53 PM
walter said...: Was filming in a 1st grade classroom today and one of the posted achievement charts for the students was for when each mastered putting on their masks by themselves.
Learnin'!; 2/23/21, 8:54 PM
Inga said...: So, are Trumpists now going to be anti vaxxers?; 2/23/21, 8:55 PM
stephen cooper said...: Actually, Inga, I am just being nice.

I understand statistics really well (really really well), and people here have been very nice and very rude to me, so I am helping out because it is human to care about those who have been nice to you, and it is human to be kind to anyone who has had the misfortune to try and turn an evil eye on you.

For the performance artist stuff, I stick to references to great events in popular culture which will mean nothing at all to anybody years from now, I don't do performance artist stuff on moral issues, like the way Fuaci and the MSM are lying about the coronavirus statistics.; 2/23/21, 8:56 PM
stephen cooper said...: Inga, if the vaccines work, that would be great news for people who want Trump - or his chosen successor - to win in 2022 and 2024.

And don't ever call me an anti-vaxxer again. That is a lie. I am just someone who understands numbers, and who understands the sad human desire to lie.

I have taken the flu vaccine every year for many years. Louis Pasteur is one of my heroes (seriously - you should check out the Paul Muni film).; 2/23/21, 8:58 PM
Inga said...: “I don't know how old you are Inga. But if you are over 70 then your risk is significantly higher than that of a teacher. In fact if you are over 65 then your risk is significantly higher.”

I’m 69, but I can comfortably stay at home for a while longer so teachers can get the vaccine. I want our kids and grandkids in school and i want teachers and child care givers safe.; 2/23/21, 8:59 PM
walter said...: Inga has stated previously she has a lung condition that would maker a "dead duck" if she got Da Rona.(Hence the hesitance to re-enter nursing at peak health care system strain); 2/23/21, 9:03 PM
I Callahan said...: Jesus, Inga, why are you so purposefully obtuse about this?

This virus is less deadly than the flu for people under 50. There is NO REASON for them to get the vaccine before those over 65. Teachers are overwhelmingly under 50.

This is easily the stupidest policy I've ever seen this government put into place.; 2/23/21, 9:04 PM
Inga said...: Good news for those who want the vaccine.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/23/us-supply-of-covid-vaccine-to-substantially-increase-next-month-manufacturers-tell-congress.html

Manufacturers of the Covid-19 vaccines said they are substantially ramping up production of doses next month.

Pfizer expects to provide more than 13 million doses of its two-shot vaccine per week to the U.S. by mid-March, more than double the pace earlier this month.

By April, Moderna hopes to deliver 40 million doses per month, roughly double the current pace, according to the company’s president, Dr. Stephen Hoge.; 2/23/21, 9:04 PM
walter said...: So..how have those essential day care workers been faring?; 2/23/21, 9:05 PM
Inga said...: “Inga has stated previously she has a lung condition that would maker a "dead duck" if she got Da Rona.(Hence the hesitance to re-enter nursing at peak health care system strain)”

Yes, true. And I’m 69 years old, not a spring chicken anymore who can run 12 hours straight from patient to patient.; 2/23/21, 9:07 PM
walter said...: CDC has been saying not not an issue in schools for a long time.
Teacher's unions know better.
SCIENCE
#firefauci; 2/23/21, 9:08 PM
The Godfather said...: I've had both covid shots. As of tomorrow, it will be two weeks since my second shot, which is when "full immunity" is supposed to be acheived. I have had NO SERIOUS ADVERSE REACTIONS. On the third day after my first shot I had a runny nose and wheepy eyes, like the onset of hay fever (but there's no pollen in NC this season); that lasted from about 10 am to 5 pm. No effect after the second shot.

The only adverse reaction I'm having right now is that I find myself agreeing with "Inga". First time ever. The idea that the vaccine is worse than the disease is absurd, "Stephen Cooper". Maybe you are right that pregnant women should skip the vaccine; I don't know. If it were me or a loved one, I'd seek qualified medical advice. Not from an internet commenter.

But I do blame the "wise" for their confused and mixed messaging. If the vaccine prevents me from getting or transmitting the virus, why should I be required to wear a mask? Why can't I hug my grandchildren? Why are people who've had and recovered from covid told they should still get the vaccine? Maybe there are reasons. Why not tell us, and let us make our own decisions? If the wise fail to do so, they only empower the "Stephen Coopers".; 2/23/21, 9:11 PM
effinayright said...: OK, those of you who argue that "reactions to the second shot are worse than actual dreaded covid symptoms", GIVE US THE NAMES of people over 65 who have **died** from covid after taking that shot.

Cooper, SHOW US THE STATS for your assertions.

Why have the daily deaths gone **down** here in Mass. since the vaccine has been made available to people like me who are most susceptible?

I get my 2nd shot tomorrow. I got my first from a health care worker who had already had her two shots.

Why didn't she tell me she almost died from them? Was she gaslighting? Was she happy to see me die as long as she got a paycheck?

In fact, she advised me that I might feel under the weather for a day after the *first* shot.

All I got a was a sore arm for two days.; 2/23/21, 9:17 PM
stephen cooper said...: The Godfather --- thank you for your anecdotal evidence.

Now explain why the Swine Flu Vaccine led to billions of dollars paid out to victims.

Because, you know, each of those victims were just as important as me, and each of them had a story to tell.

Don't call me absurd again, that was unkind and you know it.; 2/23/21, 9:19 PM
Inga said...: “But I do blame the "wise" for their confused and mixed messaging. If the vaccine prevents me from getting or transmitting the virus, why should I be required to wear a mask? Why can't I hug my grandchildren?”

Because there was a worry that the Covid virus could still colonize in the nasal passages and live virus could be spread even from a successfully vaccinated person who isn’t getting sick from the virus. The thinking is changing on this, ask DavidUW! As they test more and more vaccinated people they are not seeing live virus in their noses so they will not be transmitting the virus. This is GREAT news and I suspect that as more and more of the population get the vaccine the mask mandates and social distancing will be done away with. As for me, when my entire family is vaccinated, we won’t be wearing masks or distancing.

“Why are people who've had and recovered from covid told they should still get the vaccine?”

There are studies that indicate that the immunity they get from having had Covid isn’t as robust as the immunity from the vaccine. I’ve read that they are suggesting that people who have had Covid may only need one shot, not two.; 2/23/21, 9:24 PM
Churchy LaFemme: said...: I don't know how widely youtube has been throwing up "History Matters" videos, but my viewing got me on the list, and I have to say I have been enjoying them: 3 minute overviews of interesting historical questions presented with a dry sense of humor and without a lot of slanting.

Here's one on the Zimmerman Telegram.; 2/23/21, 9:27 PM
Curious George said...: "Yes, true. And I’m 69 years old"

And "I've closed up shop down there" thank god.; 2/23/21, 9:30 PM
walter said...: Godfather,
Add to your list proper risk stratification of adults plus whether youngins should be treated as vectors.
There's a bit too much haphazard generalizing when the disease demands close accounting...especially when considering use of new "vaccines".; 2/23/21, 9:31 PM
Inga said...: “And "I've closed up shop down there" thank god.”

And why would my vayjayjay concern you?; 2/23/21, 9:32 PM
walter said...: "There are studies that indicate that the immunity they get from having had Covid isn’t as robust as the immunity from the vaccine."
Is that..novel?; 2/23/21, 9:33 PM
narciso said...: Kind of like what happened with britain and south africa

https://www.jstor.org/stable/559800?seq=1; 2/23/21, 9:34 PM
D. said...: Decapitate the Xiden regime.; 2/23/21, 9:41 PM
n.n said...: Machete. Meade. Midnight. There can be only one Meadehouse.; 2/23/21, 9:45 PM
stephen cooper said...: If I am right that pregnant women should skip the vaccine, then I am also right that men with balls that still work should also skip the vaccine.

That which is unpredictable might get unpredictable in ways you do not predict. Fertility side-effects have not been explored.

wholelottasplainin ---- there are firehoses worth of numbers. Countries with low vaccinations rates are doing better on deaths than countries with high vaccination rates. Look it up. Compare the raw numbers in Gaza to the raw numbers in Israel. If I am right about what is going on, that is because this is a natural virus that is fading out naturally, after doing about 1 / 20 of the harm the Spanish flu did when my dad was a kid.

If I am wrong, it is because, against all expectations, companies full of midwits like Johnson and Johnson developed, in a few months, a cure/preventative for a disease (with no legal downside for them) when, after decades and decades, they had failed to find a preventative for similar diseases (with legal downsides). Grow up, and don't treat me like I am your research assistant. I never did anything to deserve being spoken to in that insulting way. This is an issue that affects people you love, learn about the truth and the lies behind what you read in the paper.; 2/23/21, 9:46 PM
effinayright said...: walter said...
Godfather,
Add to your list proper risk stratification of adults plus whether youngins should be treated as vectors.
There's a bit too much haphazard generalizing when the disease demands close accounting...especially when considering use of new "vaccines".
*************************

If kids---who overwhelmingly don't get sick, let alone die, from covid--can be vectors of transmission, then we would see their parents getting sick and dying as well, masks or no.

WE DON'T SEE THAT. ALL the stats show that 80%+ of deaths come from people over 65. And almost no deaths from people under 50.

That's been known since last summer---I've reported here that in Mass. the government's covid dashboard quietly removed covid death-by-age-group data, so as to HIDE that info.

All the better to frighten the public to death. And to kiss the fat asses (PTUI!) of the teachers' unions who fund politicians.; 2/23/21, 9:48 PM
D. said...: Put a mental retard into office, no need to decapitate. Spain 1937.

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2021/01/the-road-to-revolution; 2/23/21, 9:49 PM
effinayright said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 2/23/21, 9:54 PM
n.n said...: Democrats and Neocons want the ME to be a dumpster fire. They just will not allow peace to be a thing there.

The Obama legacy: wars without borders, transnational terrorism, CAIR (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Immigration Reform), and deals with redistributive claims. More wars and "man-made conflicts" than any President in recent decades. Popular choice for "burden" reduction (e.g. keep women appointed, available, and taxable), PC (e.g. political congruence) indulgence, and securing progressive prices and availability (e.g. Obamacares). Biden stands to inherit this empire of green.; 2/23/21, 9:56 PM
n.n said...: ALL the stats show that 80%+ of deaths come from people over 65. And almost no deaths from people under 50.

We saw that on the ship, too. Viability correlated with co-morbidities correlated with age. And, of course, the Planned Parent/hood anomaly, one of the few venues where there were discernible excess deaths attributable to the Wuhan variant.; 2/23/21, 10:00 PM
effinayright said...: Stephen Cooper:

wholelottasplainin ---- there are firehoses worth of numbers. Countries with low vaccinations rates are doing better on deaths than countries with high vaccination rates. Look it up. Compare the raw numbers in Gaza to the raw numbers in Israel. If I am right about what is going on, that is because this is a natural virus that is fading out naturally, after doing about 1 / 20 of the harm the Spanish flu did when my dad was a kid.
********

No. YOU made the assertion. YOU provide the data. NO bullshit about other countries, as we all know that the incidence of the disease, alone the deaths/million from vary greatly, despite many different approaches to dealing with it.

YOU SAID that the "reactions to the second shot are worse than actual dreaded covid symptoms", which is bullshit. How can they be worse then being DEAD?

So YOU provide the data for OUR country. Give us stats on people dying after their 2nd shot.

As for covid going away: you are SPECULATING, entirely. If you want to argue that we should sit back and let covid peter out, you are in effect arguing we should risk destroying our economy, immiserate our citizenry, and cause psychological and developmental harm to the next generation, instead of taking active steps to eradicate the disease.

Would you have taken that position with polio, measles, smallpox, whooping cough, and all the other diseases science overcame through development of vaccines?; 2/23/21, 10:00 PM
iowan2 said...: 'Some medical experts privately agreed with my prediction that there may be very little Covid-19 by April but suggested that I not to talk publicly about herd immunity because people might become complacent and fail to take precautions or might decline the vaccine,' said Dr Makary in his editorial, published Friday.

According to Dr Makary, of John Hopkins, we are rapidly reaching herd immunity. But its a secret. 77% reduction of cases in 6 weeks can only be attributed to herd immunity.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9279773/Johns-Hopkins-doctor-claims-reach-herd-immunity-April.html

Fauci heard the news and said masks are required into 2022, and vaccinated persons need to avoid eating in restaurants, and going to movie theaters..forever.; 2/23/21, 10:06 PM
narciso said...: They are crushing the economy at least one third of small busineses are gone for good , they keep playing this game on us switching rules putting us through hoops the ones who handled the virus worse pennsylvania and wisconsin are now determining policy.; 2/23/21, 10:07 PM
stephen cooper said...: wholelottasplaining --- as I said up thread, Pasteur is one of my heroes. That answers your rude question.

Try and remember that, as intelligent and as well informed and as empathetic as you are, there are other people in the world who might be just as intelligent, just as well informed, and just as empathetic as you. If you can remember that, reread what I said, and ask less rude questions, and I will be glad to answer.

BTW I have known IRL lots of the sort of people who work on those vaccines.

I also know lots of people who work at places like Lobster House.

I don't eat at Lobster House.; 2/23/21, 10:08 PM
stephen cooper said...: My position on Pasteur and Salk is I trust those guys.; 2/23/21, 10:08 PM
Scotty, beam me up... said...: That primal scream that you heard today around 10 am CST coming from both New York City and Bristol, CT, came from CBS & ESPN TV executives when the news broke that Tiger Woods was in his car accident in LA this morning. 6 weeks is not going to be enough for Tiger to recover for The Masters. The Nielsen TV Ratings futures took a big hit on the news.; 2/23/21, 10:09 PM
narciso said...: Probably not, but they are jackals anyways.; 2/23/21, 10:11 PM
n.n said...: Protect mom and baby with vaccines

A pregnant woman should get vaccinated against whooping cough and flu during each pregnancy to protect herself and her baby, with immunity for the first few months of life.

Old school: pregnant woman and her baby.

There are limited data about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines for people who are pregnant

Observational data demonstrate that, while the chances for these severe health effects are low, pregnant people with COVID-19 have an increased risk of severe illness, including illness that results in ICU admission, mechanical ventilation, and death compared with non-pregnant women of reproductive age. Additionally, pregnant people with COVID-19 might be at increased risk of adverse pregnancy outcomes, such as preterm birth, compared with pregnant women without COVID-19.

Post-normal, forward-looking school: pregnant people, pregnant women, baby maybe... progressive confusion (PC).; 2/23/21, 10:11 PM
Original Mike said...: "According to Dr Makary, of John Hopkins, we are rapidly reaching herd immunity. But its a secret. 77% reduction of cases in 6 weeks can only be attributed to herd immunity."

Yeah, it's beginning to look like it doesn't matter that Wisconsin can't provide a vaccine for this CLL patient.; 2/23/21, 10:14 PM
narciso said...: And now for something completely different

https://waleg.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Tuba-buyukustun.jpg; 2/23/21, 10:14 PM
DavidUW said...: Jesus, Inga, why are you so purposefully obtuse about this?
>>
Inga is a fucking idiot who can't google the NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE.

That's how stupid she is.; 2/23/21, 10:17 PM
gadfly said...: So Stephen Cooper said that the "reactions to the second shot are worse than actual dreaded covid symptoms."

I told Stevie a few nights ago that I had both shots and had some mild muscle soreness after both - but it certainly didn't bother my sleep at all and was gone in the morning. So he doesn't read responses.

He keeps writing about SARS-CoV-2, which indicates that he is worried about catching the virus. As for us dummies, we're immune - thank you very much!; 2/23/21, 10:21 PM
n.n said...: Tuba Buyukustun

Lovely lady.

WGM Maria Fominykh (RUS)

Checkmate.; 2/23/21, 10:22 PM
Scott said...: Everyone thought "Democracy dies in darkness" was a warning. It turned out to be an aspiration.; 2/23/21, 10:25 PM
Rory said...: I've been throwing down birdseed with each new snow cover, but the birds have been laying low in the cold. With some thaw the last couple days the seed has congealed into two soggy lumps at the front and back of the house, and the deer are going to town.; 2/23/21, 10:26 PM
stephen cooper said...: gadfly - I am happy for you.

There is more to it, though, than what is good for an individual human being on an anecdotal level.

And trust me I am not worried about getting coronavirus, I don't wear masks unless forced to, and I hardly bother to wash my hands. I am on the Aubrey Huff side of that debate. (Aubrey Huff is a retired baseball player who Twitter hates because he laughs at the covid panic).

I have, to be fair, an immune system that would make someone who lived for decade after decade in cockroach infected apartments with bad plumbing jealous (if that person could feel the emotion of jealousy). I am pretty much speaking here from an individually disinterested point of view.; 2/23/21, 10:31 PM
Inga said...: DavidUW aka the Yeller doesn’t know how to provide working links. I had to provide him with evidence that he was right, he couldn’t prove it himself. That how smart he is. So impressive.; 2/23/21, 10:32 PM
stephen cooper said...: What I want is for people to make up their own minds.

You have kids? Well, don't ask them to get a shot that is not proven to be safe.

You are over 70 and are afraid of the coronavirus? Well, the shot will keep you safe one out of four times. STAY SAFE FOUR OUT OF FOUR TIMES, shot or not, my friend!

You are a pregnant woman DON'T GET THE SHOT
You are a guy with testicles which you plan to use someday to father a child with a woman you love DON'T GET THE SHOT

I KNOW I COME ACROSS AS RUDE SOMETIMES but I am at heart a communicator, and I want to communicate; 2/23/21, 10:33 PM
Francisco D said...: Why do the Resident Idiot and the Sky Pilot tend to dominate the evening open cafe?; 2/23/21, 10:37 PM
chuck said...: I had both shots and had some mild muscle soreness after both

I've also had both. Didn't notice the first, after the second had a slight headache in the middle of the night, but not enough to keep me up. In Utah about 70% of those 70+ old have gotten at least one shot, they are working on those 60+ now. The number of older folks getting the shots seems to have leveled out, so maybe ~30% don't want it.; 2/23/21, 10:37 PM
Inga said...: Stephen Cooper, still doing his song and dance act. I sometimes wonder if he isn’t running some experiment...; 2/23/21, 10:38 PM
Inga said...: Oh and here comes the drunk to liven things up.; 2/23/21, 10:39 PM
DavidUW said...: Inga thinks I should take orders from a fucking moron like her who can’t read a scientific article given the exact name of the journal and date.

But idiot Inga can google mucosal immunity all day long

Idiot Inga can’t reason from Koch’s postulates

But idiot Inga thinks it’s my fault she’s a moron

Bark seal, bark.; 2/23/21, 10:40 PM
Rt41Rebel said...: I've managed to avoid catching flus all of my life by passing them off as hangovers.; 2/23/21, 10:42 PM
Inga said...: Hey Yeller, if you want to prove what you assert, you don’t have others looking for your data for you. It’s not hard making links and cutting and pasting. Were your fingers broken from having them shoved up your nose?; 2/23/21, 10:43 PM
Gospace said...: So far- everything I know about side effects from the vaccine shots is anecdotes. From people I know who've received the shots.

Of those: 2 people with heart attacks after the shots. One coworker 4-5 days after it. But he's a walking bundle of bad health. In his mid 50s. My son knows someone, again mid 50s, in good health, died of a heart attack 4 hours after the second shot. Millions of people have received the vaccine. So inevitably some will die randomly of something they would have died of anyway right after receiving the shot. But that's one more person I know of who's died immediately after receiving the dreaded covid vaccine than people I know who've died of the dreaded covid. I don't think any deaths or serious illnesses following the vaccine are being publicized.

People I know who've actually been diagnosed with the dreaded covid? Up to about a dozen. Number in ICU? Zero. Number who spent any time hospitalized? One, my middle child for one night on oxygen. He tested negative for the virus twice, including the one given on hospital admission. His blood donation tested positive for dreaded covid antibodies.

About half the people I know who've received the dreaded covid vaccine both shots, about half have had nothing more than sore arms. The other half? Chills, fevers, body aches, and 2 have taken days off from work. One of whom is the coworker who had a heart attack. Everyone I know who has received the vaccine has been in their 40s and 50s. The chills, fevers, and body aches are covid symptoms themselves. The one symptom the vaccine reaction sufferers didn't have that actual covid infected had was the loss of taste and smell.

What have none of the covid infected had that I know? Any type of treatment or medication offered. It's been known for over a year that budesonide appears to reduce hospitalizations and treatment times. One of the most recent studies "suggests that inhaled budesonide reduced the relative risk of requiring urgent care or hospitalisation by 90% in the 28-day study period." 90% How many of those extra half million dead people would be alive if doctors had aggressively pursued treatment options? The debate over HCQ and it's effectiveness seems mired in politics, not medicine. The studies showing it doesn't work uniformly have been designed to 1. not use it with zinc 2. not use it with azithromycin and 3. administer it after patients are already on their way to the ICU, when proponents say it's most effective when given- 1. when covid is first suspected 2. with zinc 3 with azithromycin. From the very earliest days we have known that worse outcomes are directly correlated with lower Vitamin D blood levels. And we know lower Vitamin D levels are most prevalent in the black population in America, and more common in winter. And- the medical establishment still isn't recommending people be tested or supplements be taken. BTW- the relationship between Vitamin D levels and better/worse outcomes in any URI has been known for decades. And still- nothing.; 2/23/21, 10:45 PM
DavidUW said...: Bark seal bark

Why would I take orders from an idiot?; 2/23/21, 10:45 PM
Inga said...: I know two people who have died from Covid. I know two more who were hospitalized and survived. I know several more who were very ill and now have lasting issues. Right now I know a young women age 33, her husband and her brother who lives with them who have Covid and are VERY ill. The 14 year old daughter is now home from school because her parents have Covid is taking care of them.

I know two 77 year olds who have had their shots and did just fine. My daughter who is a healthcare provider in the Navy has had her shots and did fine. My other daughter and son in law have had their Covid shots because as unpaid caregivers to my grandson who has a disability they were allowed to get it. They did just fine.; 2/23/21, 10:51 PM
effinayright said...: stephen cooper said...
wholelottasplaining --- as I said up thread, Pasteur is one of my heroes. That answers your rude question.

>>>>No, it does not.

Try and remember that, as intelligent and as well informed and as empathetic as you are, there are other people in the world who might be just as intelligent, just as well informed, and just as empathetic as you.

>>>>That is NEVER the test: the test is, can you support your assertions?

If you can remember that, reread what I said, and ask less rude questions, and I will be glad to answer.

>>>>Oh, so unless I meet your standards, you will remain silent. How conveeeenient.

>>>>How about offering supporting data to the people you made your original assertions to? Or all they all insufficiently impolite?

BTW I have known IRL lots of the sort of people who work on those vaccines.

>>>>So what? WHERE IS YOUR SUPPORTING DATA???; 2/23/21, 10:58 PM
stephen cooper said...: Francisco - have at it.

Explain to people your detailed views.

Years from now, if the coronavirus news, as tragic as it is, is considered the worst thing that happened between 2020 and 2030, I will be thrilled,because I want a good world for people younger than me.

and calling me a sky pilot is deeply offensive by the way. earth is where i live and i do not brag about the sky and while i have known lots of pilots, i never pretended to be one, i always had more important (if less celebrated) things to do.; 2/23/21, 10:59 PM
Inga said...: Hey Stephen don’t feel bad, Francisco D is always drunk, so what he says is really just babbling, especially this time of night. I call him Dr. Lecter because one time when he was very drunk he said he wanted to eat a body part of mine and Ritmo’s brain. YES he really did say that.; 2/23/21, 11:03 PM
walter said...: gadfly said...As for us dummies, we're immune - thank you very much!
--
In your case, Thank Trump very much!
(Butt a swab up yer ass just to be sure); 2/23/21, 11:07 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: I've started calling Biden the president. over there at twitter.

He stole it fair and square.; 2/23/21, 11:07 PM
stephen cooper said...: People make bad jokes all the time, let's not hold them to it!

Seriously, I don't care much ---- and nobody should care much ---- about insults made, on any given night, on the comment section of what is, after all, a very good website ----- I have a sort of innate dislike of law school professors (only because I have met a few), but the specific professor who runs this site is very cool for a law professor, and .... perhaps I am rambling too ---- most of us who post here are mature enough to take things in stride - and while I really really don't want anyone to call me sky pilot, well, I also don't want to make a big deal out of it on someone else's website

And trust me, if I ran a website, there would be NO COMMENT SECTIONS AT ALL.

But I would also make sure that as few people as possible were able to find my website.

Life is funny, and people are sometimes a lot more honest, and a lot less self-interested, than you think.; 2/23/21, 11:13 PM
Ken B said...: So people here are doing the same shitty thing CNN always does: contorting themselves to find the most hostile possible reading of anything their hate fetish says. CNN does it to Trump, you twats do it go Fauci.

F: Just because you got the shot doesn’t mean you can felch covid patients right away. Immunity takes time.
Trumpkins: Fauci says if you get vaccinated you should never have sex again.; 2/23/21, 11:19 PM
walter said...: It is entertaining to troll libs who lament rapidity of vax distribution with mention of how the vax came about despite concern whether it would ever come about.
FUN!; 2/23/21, 11:19 PM
Ken B said...: Inga
Francisco is not the only one here to post wet dreams about violence against other posters. We have a solid core of people who think it makes them look cool, posting their assault fantasies.; 2/23/21, 11:21 PM
walter said...: "CNN does it to Trump, you twats do it go Fauci"
Oh..says the guy who reflexively calls folks Trumpists and questioners of Covid dictates Denialists.; 2/23/21, 11:22 PM
Mutaman said...: "Cooper, SHOW US THE STATS for your assertions."

The day Cooper cites a link supporting any of his gibberish will be the day the earth stands still.; 2/23/21, 11:24 PM
walter said...: Hey Hoser,
Who is the Fauci of da Great White Nort?; 2/23/21, 11:26 PM
walter said...: Mutaman,
Digging that stellar Garland performance?
Of course you do!; 2/23/21, 11:28 PM
walter said...: Umm..umm..umm..umm...; 2/23/21, 11:29 PM
Gospace said...: The one nice thing about living today is that knowledge of just about everything is available to everyone who wants it. I believe most problems of old age are due either to a deficit of some micro-nutrients or an excess (especially iron) of others.

Let's take Vitamin D studies- which I've mentioned.

From 2010 a study that shows low Vitamin D levels are associated with a worse outcome in tuberculosis, arguably one of the most severe URIs you can get.

From 2017 a study showing lower Vitamin D levels associated with worse outcomes in community-acquired pneumonia.

From 2017 an article from The Harvard Gazette titled "Study confirms vitamin D protects against colds and flu".

From 2015 a study that shows that Vitamin D is effective against influenza A but not influenza B or the common cold...

And a WebMD article from 2010 cautiously titles "Vitamin D May Cut Risk of Flu". WebMD is often my go to source for medical information.

These particular articles and studies show a mixture of preexisting Vitamin D levels with supplementation.

Now if you search for Vitamin D and flu, or pneumonia, or covid, or any other URI, you'll also find dozens of studies and dozens if not hundreds of articles claiming Vitamin D is useless, don't take it, it's a scam. Every single study I've looked at (probably over 50 by now) that claims Vitamin is snake oil suffers from the same defect. Vitamin D was administered after disease onset, normally in a one time large dose, in a way normal people don't take or use it. The body can absorb only so much Vitamin D at a time. A mega-dose really isn't going to do much good. It's stored in the body as all fat soluble vitamins are. For it to do you any good- it really needs to already be in the body in sufficient quantities to be used at a moment's notice when the immune system wants to utilize it.

Website of The Vitamin D Society. Website of The Linus Pauling Institute and what they have to say about Vitamin D. Lots of Vitamin D information. The first is, or course, biased for Vitamin D.

Don't know if any of the links will say it- but if you take Vitamin D supplements, take Vitamin K supplements. If your body is using D, it's using up K with it. I take a supplement with 3 types of K, (amenaquinone-7, K2), (menaquinone-4, K2), (phytonadione, K1).; 2/23/21, 11:32 PM
stephen cooper said...: Mutaman - well, check out the links from Alex Berenson (an anti-Trump dude) on his twitter feed. TO REAL NUMBERS, as in, there are a million people and here are where the hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands, thousands, hundreds, and tens fall on the x y graphs.

If I am in a good mood tomorrow I will volunteer to provide you with more sources BUT YOU ARE SMART ENOUGH TO FIND YOUR OWN ON THIS IMPORTANT SUBJECT; 2/23/21, 11:34 PM
Mutaman said...: "Digging that stellar Garland performance?"

Relative to who- the two guys Trump hired and then fired after publically attacking them on numerous occasions?; 2/23/21, 11:35 PM
stephen cooper said...: I mean, if all I knew about Trump was that he did not fire Fauci after the first interview, I would think Trump was - in Muppet rankings --- way dumber than the dumbest Muppet.

But he was the greatest president of our lifetimes, but that just means it is even worse that he trusted Fauci.; 2/23/21, 11:36 PM
stephen cooper said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 2/23/21, 11:39 PM
walter said...: Might as well provide the name/link, no?
I take a Life Extension "Vitamins D and K with sea-iodine" supp.; 2/23/21, 11:41 PM
stephen cooper said...: so, in Muppet rankings, a really good president is sort of like Grover; 2/23/21, 11:42 PM
narciso said...: And who was a reliable alternative, stephen cooper faucis numbers came from the gates foundation from polecat ferguson from chris murray, who had really scrutinized fauci only fumento and he was 5,000 miles away in the phillipines.

Garland was an embarassment scratch that a deeply delusional mind the slash and burn in a 100 cities are nothing but a delta frat party is worse than september 11th; 2/23/21, 11:45 PM
StephenFearby said...: Cribbed from City Journal (with lots more pictures):

DM PUBLISHED 23:32 EST, 23 February 2021

Buffalo Public Schools claim 'all white people' perpetuate systemic racism and force kindergarteners to watch video of dead black children warning them about 'racist police and state-sanctioned violence'

Fatima Morrell is associate superintendent for Culturally and Linguistically Responsive Initiatives at Buffalo public schools in New York

Morrell has introduced a new curriculum, lesson plans and teacher training

The teachers are encouraged to be more 'woke' in their efforts at 'antiracism'

Morrell suggests teaching kindergarten classes about children killed by police

Videos featuring Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice and others tell their stories

Older pupils learn 'all white people play a part in perpetuating systemic racism'
A whistleblower told City Journal about the news lesson plans

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9293297/Buffalo-schools-claim-whites-uphold-racism-kids-warnings-dead-black-children.html

City Journal February 23, 2021

Failure Factory
Buffalo’s school district tells students that “all white people play a part in perpetuating systemic racism”—while presiding over miserable student outcomes.

Christopher F. Rufo

"...Antiracist ideologues claim to have the solution to America’s deepest problems, but in institutions such as Buffalo Public Schools, they have failed to ensure that students reach minimum levels of literacy. If they cannot teach the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic, how can we trust them to reshape society?"

https://www.city-journal.org/buffalo-public-schools-critical-race-theory-curriculum; 2/23/21, 11:46 PM
walter said...: Mutated Man,
Relative to common sense.
He looked like a fuckin' mealy mouthed idiot.
Good thing he didn't wind up on SCOTUS for life...though we still have Roberts.; 2/23/21, 11:46 PM
narciso said...: That is child abuse mind arson that renders black latino even white students illiterate and full of rage.; 2/23/21, 11:49 PM
stephen cooper said...: narciso ask fumento next time you seem him about prison in Colombia, I think there was an internet thingy where I was asked to help bail him out, I don't remember if I responded ---- I SHOULD HAVE

dude was way wrong on Gulf War syndrome but right on lots of other things; 2/23/21, 11:52 PM
narciso said...: Ive only followed his material off and on since he was in the spectator, weve meddled so far in that sandbox with all these princelings and potentates with iraq less thanks to sepri but enough, which ended up protecting bin laden and his crew.; 2/23/21, 11:55 PM
narciso said...: Theres a small group berenson jordan hunt luigi warren that seem concerned about the science and the implications of said findings; 2/23/21, 11:57 PM
narciso said...: Across the pond, dave cullen seems to be grappling with the consequences of applying these lockdowns and what it is doung to our humanity.; 2/24/21, 12:01 AM
Mutaman said...: Get back to me the minute Garland accuses Biden of "a betrayal to his office."

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/07/barr-trump-committed-betrayal-of-his-office-455812; 2/24/21, 12:02 AM
stephen cooper said...: science is what it is ....

as of Feb 2021, implications for me are optimistic, if this were a bioweapon, probably by now someone with stones and power to do something about it would have figured it out and gotten the facts that were needed to stop it cold ..... since it looks likely it is just something that kills a hundred million because some fool ate an innocent bat that had almost been eaten by an innocent ferret, it seems CRAZY to put the power to stop it on the sort of people who were cool with bioweapons in the first place ....
bat-transmitted virus disasters are limited, you know, by the fact that they descend from millions of years of similar critters any one of whom, had that any one of whom killed us all, would have also killed its descendants ----
but hey what do i know; 2/24/21, 12:02 AM
narciso said...: That was barr looking in a mirror, failing to live up to the constitution

https://computingforever.com/2021/02/23/dear-irish-people-its-time-to-wake-up/; 2/24/21, 12:03 AM
stephen cooper said...: nick donnelly is doing a good job too but it is NOT ACROSS A POND friends of mine have drowned in that body of water IT IS NOT A POND they would have never drowned if it were A POND my life would be so much better if it were A POND it is a big scary cold ocean that DOES NOT CARE ABOUT US; 2/24/21, 12:04 AM
stephen cooper said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 2/24/21, 12:06 AM
narciso said...: Its a weapon of terror, it has succeeded more than the wildest dreams with accomplices in the west pumping the fear, turning people not the virus into the vector, smashing the other half of small business that the rioters didnt get to.; 2/24/21, 12:06 AM
walter said...: Blogger Mutaman said...
Get back to me the minute Garland accuses Biden of "a betrayal to his office."
--
Nice deflection!
But..early days.
Eating your own is probable..; 2/24/21, 12:08 AM
stephen cooper said...: narciso, well yeah, but magna est veritas et praevalebit; 2/24/21, 12:08 AM
Gospace said...: walter said...
Might as well provide the name/link, no?
I take a Life Extension "Vitamins D and K with sea-iodine" supp.

That's a good choice for a Vitamin K supplement. Oh- a quick bit of medical advice- if you are taking any kind of blood thinner- like coumadin- consult with your doctor before taking any supplement with K.

I have found that of I link to websites selling things- my comments are often detected as spam and never get published. Without a direct link to the sites

For K I go to Vitacost and order Ultra Vitamin K includes Advanced K2 Complex. For E I use their Vitamin E & Tocotrienol Complex.

For a good multivitamin I order from Amazon (so you can use the Althouse link) NATURELO One Daily Multivitamin for Men - with Vitamins & Minerals + Organic Whole Foods - Supplement to Boost Energy, General Health - Non-GMO. That's a new replacement for the multi I was taking that was inexplicably discontinued. One of my wants in any supplement is that it be available in capsule form. And I don't want more than 100% of the MDR for any metal. Metals are necessary for the body, too much of any metal is problematical.; 2/24/21, 12:10 AM
narciso said...: I'm halfway there

https://mobile.twitter.com/MegynKellyShow/status/1364257279353053187; 2/24/21, 12:13 AM
walter said...: Not taking thinners.
Hoping the LE D&K covers that particular spectrum.; 2/24/21, 12:14 AM
narciso said...: If the rules dont make sense, why follow them?

https://mobile.twitter.com/IAmTheActualET/status/1364368722555592704; 2/24/21, 12:15 AM
narciso said...: Ot

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NrtPhu8lS8w; 2/24/21, 12:20 AM
Ken B said...: Walter
We have twats here who explicitly stated the covid virus is harmless. Not a stretch to call them denialists.; 2/24/21, 12:38 AM
walter said...: Overstated, overstretched and obfuscated..
WWRRS?; 2/24/21, 12:43 AM
Ken B said...: More about AA's speculations that Trump was told a riot was expected

Byron York
@ByronYork
· 14h
All the witnesses at Senate Capitol riot hearing say they expected January 6 demonstration to be similar to MAGA events in November, December. Chance of violence was thought to be 'remote to improbable.'; 2/24/21, 12:47 AM
walter said...: So there are folks here saying covid is zero harmful..or less harmful than flu?
Really?; 2/24/21, 12:48 AM
Gospace said...: walter said...
So there are folks here saying covid is zero harmful..or less harmful than flu?
Really?

If you're under 60 and healthy- less harmful. Under 21- definitely so. Over 75? And unhealthy? Worse than most flu varieties. By quite a bit. If you look at the actual people under age 50 who've died you'll note comorbidities for them out the yin-yang.

That's been one of the biggest differences between the dreaded covid and most garden variety flus. The dreaded covid seems to target the sick and the elderly for death at a much higher rate, while leaving the healthy and young relatively unscathed. Again- information we're known since the Diamond Princess. Deadly flu varieties, like the Spanish flu, knock off a lot of otherwise healthy people who get it.; 2/24/21, 12:58 AM
gadfly said...: rehajm said...
The Federalist has been diligent in updating their Biden lie tracker. Very informative for those if us who abandoned propaganda news...

The Federalist turned to more money by switching from conservative to Trumpist in 2015. Then the pro-Trump lies began to appear. According to WIKI, "during the COVID-19 pandemic, The Federalist published many pieces that contained false information or pseudoscience that was contrary to the recommendations of public health experts and authorities. While ballots were being counted in the 2020 United States presidential election, The Federalist made false claims that there had been large-scale election fraud."

I first noticed the problem when I read Molly Hemingway's story twisting the truths written by Ryan Lizza in Esquire about Devin Nunes parents moving their farm to Iowa to take advantage of cheap Mexican farm labor - a story telling of strange behavior by the senior Nunes family.; 2/24/21, 1:02 AM
walter said...: I get ya Gospace,
Just trying to draw out our Canuck friend...; 2/24/21, 1:11 AM
walter said...: Sure, gadfly.
It was ALLL on the up and up.
Biden can ride a bicycle!; 2/24/21, 1:14 AM
walter said...: (Tell us what you ate to clog that sewer main in GA); 2/24/21, 1:16 AM
walter said...: Oh..it's quite odd that Lindell so enthusiastically welcomes Dominion's suit. Ah...just a fucking crack head, right? wacka wacka...; 2/24/21, 1:20 AM
Rt41Rebel said...: If Covid is so contagious and deadly to old people, how is it that we don't have a monumental death among our elite? Who is the most influential person that has died of Covid? Pelosi? Bernie? Biden? Who among our Hollywood elite has died? Streisand? DeNiro? Springsteen? My challenge to you is to name the most powerful person to die from Covid. Go!

After you are done scratching your head, fuck you for being so stupid.; 2/24/21, 3:20 AM
Rt41Rebel said...: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaths_due_to_COVID-19

George Soros curiously not on this list.; 2/24/21, 3:29 AM
Rt41Rebel said...: Tiger Woods almost died of Covid yesterday. He may never golf again.; 2/24/21, 3:32 AM
Rt41Rebel said...: Jeffrey Epstein did not die of Covid!; 2/24/21, 3:34 AM
Rt41Rebel said...: One wonders how Hillary keeps Bill from bringing Covid into their sex life.; 2/24/21, 3:35 AM
Rt41Rebel said...: Well come on Inganorant or Kenny, name one fuckIng person of consequence that has died of Covid. One. Not someone that was famous 50 years ago and in their 90s. You can't.; 2/24/21, 3:44 AM
Humperdink said...: Canadian pastor tossed in the pokey for exceeding the 15% attendance rule.

Royal *cough* Canadian Mounted (who was on foot) Police spokesman: "To be very clear, the RCMP's objective is not to interrupt church services, prohibit services, nor deny peoples' right to practice their religion—merely to ensure that public health restrictions are adhered to while doing so."

Read that again.

https://www.newsweek.com/pastor-arrested-lockdown-violations-appear-court-after-week-jail-1571189; 2/24/21, 5:24 AM
Rusty said...: DavidUW said,
"But idiot Inga thinks it’s my fault she’s a moron"
It's a Dunning- Kruger Thing. Most of the time I can laugh it off-It's sometimes fun to get them revved up. But unfortunately They've infested congress and the Whitehouse. That Psaki broad must be a great lay.............; 2/24/21, 5:25 AM
stevew said...: If we are swapping anecdotes for facts here are a couple of mine:

A good sized number of people I know have had the vaccine, both does, and report no symptoms or discomfort of any significance.

No one I know has tested positive for Covid in the past 6 months.

Covid hospitalizations were never high locally and have declined ery dramatically over the past 8 weeks.

Personally I am not the least bit concerned about getting the virus. May have already had it as far as I onow.; 2/24/21, 5:52 AM
mezzrow said...: Stunning appearance by Naomi Wolf on Tucker last night. "Did he say Naomi Wolf on Tucker?" Yes I did. Just go watch. She's woke, but not how you might think. Mea culpa, she says.

Go. Watch. Six minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKTZMuJ9cDQ&ab_channel=FirstAmendment; 2/24/21, 6:00 AM
Ray - SoCal said...: My parents in So Ca are still waiting to get their vaccine and they are 75+.

But, la county opened it up to teachers that are not going back to the classroom. Plus marijuana dispensary workers have priority.

It’s smart for Florida to vaccinate those at highest risk first,

Interesting the blowback their Governor is getting for that decision.

I’m so tired of the political hit jobs main stream media is doing.; 2/24/21, 6:37 AM
donald said...: “Allowed to get it”. Nice.; 2/24/21, 6:49 AM
Lurker21 said...: "When they came for Robert E. Lee I did nothing because I wasn't a Southerner.

"When they came for Christopher Columbus I did nothing because I wasn't Italian.

"When they came for me nobody did anything because there was nobody left."

-- White (Privileged) Snowman; 2/24/21, 7:40 AM
wendybar said...: Security officials testified Tuesday that they believe the Capitol riot on Jan. 6 was a "coordinated attack" as they were pressed by senators over the circumstances leading to the security failure. Former U.S. Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund, former Senate Sergeant at Arms Michael Stenger and former House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving, as well as Metropolitan Police Department acting chief Robert Contee, appeared before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee on Tuesday, in the first Senate hearing to examine the "security failures" that lead to the breach of the U.S. Capitol last month. Committee Chairman Gary Peters, D-Mich., questioned the officials over whether they felt there was coordination with regard to the attack. "These people came specifically with equipment. You’re bringing climbing gear to a demonstration, explosives, chemical spray—you’re coming prepared," Sund testified. "The fact that the group attacked our West Front 20 minutes before the event at the Ellipse ended—they were planning on our agency not being at full strength at that time." Posted@urgentagenda.com; 2/24/21, 7:45 AM
wendybar said...: I wonder why the Propaganda media missed this???
"Michael Waller, a senior analyst for strategy at the Center for Security Policy specializing in propaganda, political warfare, psychological warfare, and subversion, said he was at the Capitol on January 6 and witnessed:

Plainclothes militants. Militant, aggressive men in Donald Trump and MAGA gear at a front police line at the base of the temporary presidential inaugural platform;
Agents-provocateurs. Scattered groups of men exhorting the marchers to gather closely and tightly toward the center of the outside of the Capitol building and prevent them from leaving;
Fake Trump protesters. A few young men wearing Trump or MAGA hats backwards and who did not fit in with the rest of the crowd in terms of their actions and demeanor, whom I presumed to be Antifa or other leftist agitators; and
Disciplined, uniformed column of attackers. A column of organized, disciplined men, wearing similar but not identical camouflage uniforms and black gear, some with helmets and GoPro cameras or wearing subdued Punisher skull patches.
Well known Antifa-Insurgence leader John Earl Sullivan was arrested in Utah after the US Capitol riots."; 2/24/21, 8:01 AM
iowan2 said...: Gadfly said
He keeps writing about SARS-CoV-2, which indicates that he is worried about catching the virus. As for us dummies, we're immune - thank you very much!

Nope, you are wrong! Fauci says no grandkids, no eating in restaurants, no theaters for you. (he ignores questions as to when we can live or life.

Oh, that "article" about Nunes? There might be a short paragraph of facts hidden in several thousand words of innuendo, inference, mind reading, and conclusions he admits lack even rudimentary facts. His parents bought ground and established a dairy operation in Iowa. When I saw where it was located I immediately knew they were providing milk to Blue Bunny ice cream. Some big scoop. A dairy guy in California, got out of the hell of California, and moved someplace where the govt didn't treat them like criminals.; 2/24/21, 8:22 AM
MadTownGuy said...: Headless, and heedless of the wind and weather, until melted.; 2/24/21, 8:23 AM
Big Mike said...: This is what happens when you let Kathy Griffin into your city.; 2/24/21, 9:09 AM
Francisco D said...: Ken B said...Francisco is not the only one here to post wet dreams about violence against other posters. We have a solid core of people who think it makes them look cool, posting their assault fantasies.

You are a liar.

Apologize or find a quote where I threatened anyone.; 2/24/21, 9:25 AM
Kai Akker said...: There's the spike in the Dow Industrials. The only element that was missing yesterday.

What are you waiting for?; 2/24/21, 11:48 AM
Kai Akker said...: Technicals say this is a sell signal. Valuations say it is one of the bigger sell signals of the decade. The last two decades. Ah, tell the truth -- the last century.

And the fundamentals say.... LOL, what do the fundamentals say? The greatest of all worlds ever, forever. Money for nothing, courtesy of the U.S. Treasury. What can beat free money?

So, what did the Dow hit? DJIA 31889. Up 300-something today.

Could be a few more points left.
They could push prices higher all afternoon. But this is uuuge.; 2/24/21, 12:00 PM
Mutaman said...: "Michael Waller"

A well known conspiracy theorist nut. Only an idiot like Ron Johnson would quote him.; 2/24/21, 4:20 PM
Jim at said...: Who is demanding? Who is calling for compulsory vaccinations?

You are. Constantly.; 2/24/21, 4:20 PM