January 8, 2021

Twitter has "permanently suspended" Donald Trump "due to the risk of further incitement of violence."

ADDED: Here's a detailed explanation from Twitter, objecting to the 2 tweets Trump put up today (which we've been discussing here): "To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th" and "The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!" What's so bad about those?

According to Twitter, they violate the "Glorification of Violence policy." It doesn't seem to matter that the words don't refer to violence at all. They "could inspire others to replicate violent acts and determined that they were highly likely to encourage and inspire people to replicate the criminal acts that took place at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021." Twitter expresses fear that there could be violence at the Inauguration because Trump could be understood to be "disavowing his previous claim... that there would be an 'orderly transition' on January 20th." I hadn't thought about this, but Twitter offers the idea that violent Trump supporters could be incited by the information that Trump won't be present at the event! Strangely, Twitter may be giving some people that idea. I don't think I would have published it if I'd thought of it. 

139 comments:

Sprezzatura said...

Parlor for him.

The Godfather said...

I bring you Peace, Peace in our time.

Joe Smith said...

This will not end well.

FullMoon said...

Disgusting.

Sprezzatura said...

parler

Amadeus 48 said...

I could see that coming a mile away. It is a good thing I don’t use Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, etc. I write notes and make calls.

FullMoon said...

BREAKING: Apple and Google Threaten to Ban Parler Unless The Service Enacts Draconian Censorship Policies Demanded by Big Tech Oligarchs

Joe Smith said...

He should (somehow) announce that he also has accounts on competing platforms, and looks forward to all conservatives cancelling their Twitter, etc. accounts immediately.



They will still ban him, but it will be a very bad look, and validation that these companies and their CEOs are nothing but democrat operatives.



If he is smart, he will negotiate an equity deal with the new platforms because he will be delivering millions of new accounts.

The Genius Savant said...

This is an infinitely more dangerous threat to our Republic than anything that happened on Wednesday.

Browndog said...

People still don't get it-

They're going to shut down parler too.

Leland said...

Facebook banned the #WalkAway movement.

WSJ: Biden Says Rioters Who Stormed Capitol Were Domestic Terrorists

"Mr. Biden has said he plans to make a priority of passing a law against domestic terrorism, and he has been urged to create a White House post overseeing the fight against ideologically inspired violent extremists and increasing funding to combat them."

I don't think he means this.

Yeah, boring won.

Joe Smith said...

"This is an infinitely more dangerous threat to our Republic than anything that happened on Wednesday.

Agree...especially if Apple and Google ban Parler from their app stores.

Talk about oligarchy.

Sprezzatura said...

Full M,

Gateway is hilarious. From your link:

“Apple threatened to ban Parler unless they censor and deplatform those who do not fall in line with the Communists”

The Vault Dweller said...

Something tells me this isn't good for the long-term health of Twitter company. Social media companies thrive on being the go to place for that specific type of social media. Facebook relies on being the only social networking network. Twitter relies on being the only place people can go to get people's hot takes. If there is a switch away from Twitter it will happen very suddenly. Facebook and MySpace were very competitive until there was a public perception that Facebook was the one to be on then there was an incredibly rapid shift to Facebook. Twitter risks that there is an exodus to other platforms and if one of those platforms hits a critical mass there will be massive switches to the new 'public square'.

stlcdr said...

Reading the unabridged second edition of Webster’s international dictionary, definition of the term fascism “...rigid censorship, and forceable suppression of opposition”.

Sprezzatura said...

“especially if Apple and Google ban Parler from their app stores.”

Not just that, they are banning anything that isn’t pro communism. Gateway said they said so.

chuck said...

It is just a start. Tech is making its move, Kristallnacht in slow motion.

Qwinn said...

Sprez:

Mocking and deriding people who recognize the communist threat worked for you vermin for decades, so I understand why you're still trying it.

After 2020, no one but the communists laughs anymore.

chuck said...

It's going to get worse than people think.

stevew said...

BS of the civility kind.

Readering said...

Now there's a fresh take.

Chuck said...

Very sound, solid, practical risk management.

The Vault Dweller said...

It is a good thing I don’t use Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, etc. I write notes and make calls.

I get this means there is no interruption in your day to day, and for most people this is probably fine. But if someone wants to reach lots of people, they need access to a large network to get their message out. And people who have access to a large enough network of people are going to be much more effective at shaping media narratives. The Conservative instinct of simply ignoring it and retreating to their own thing may not work.

mockturtle said...

The hate that has spewed forth from the MSM against our President incites me to violence against them. So far just in thoughts and not in actions.

stevew said...

Is it good for China, the market they all covet?

Sprezzatura said...

Qwinn,

Why do you think that nobody laughs when con media tells you that Facebook and Twitter are only allowing pro-Communism jabber on their platforms?

Sure, the laughter is mixed w/ pity for foolish loons who believe this stuff. Still plenty of laughing.

Caroline said...

I can’t believe I agree with chuck. Chuck, is that really you? Hater chuck?

FullMoon said...


Gateway is hilarious.

Ya gots to take the good with the bad.
Gateway the go-to for edited clips of Bideisms. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they stretch it.

For your own safety, remember they are not on the up and up or as reliable like WaPo, NYT, Huffington, Msnbc, Cnn, etc.

YoungHegelian said...

Apple & Google can attempt to ban Parler from their stores, and that'll make life a bit more difficult for the users but there are work-arounds. For one thing, it can be accessed via a web interface from any platform & there's nothing that can be done to stop that, short of shutting down the servers. I'm sure that'll be tried, but other servers can always be found, including overseas.

Also, apps can be installed by means other than the app stores, e.g. Here's how to do it for iOS.

It's definitely more of a PITA but as samidzat hardships go, it's pretty minor.

Chuck said...

Browndog said...
People still don't get it-

They're going to shut down parler too.


Sidney Powell got sued today. For $1.3 billion with a B. The plaintiff is Dominion. Plaintiff's counsel is Thomas Clare. One of the most feared, ferocious, relentless, formidable corporate/defamation lawyers in the world.

Ms. Powell has finally met the Kraken. Fer real.

And if Parler has good lawyers, they will take note.

JPS said...

Caroline,

"I can’t believe I agree with chuck. Chuck,"

chuck and Chuck are different commenters. Either that or he is large, he contains multitudes.

FullMoon said...

A reminder, "Twitter" did not ban Trump. Human beings working at Twitter banned Trump..

No doubt their names are well known among the techies.

WK said...

Getting error messages on Parler tonight that they are experiencing capacity issues or I am having network issues. I don’t believe I am having network issues.

chuck said...

I am small, easy to c.

I Callahan said...

About Parler - wondering if it’s a new DDOS attack?

narciso said...

what the jackass atty in dr. Zhivago, komarovsky, the top officials in the democratic party incited violence against cops, private property, that was fine with zuckerberg, dorsey and co,

Sprezzatura said...

“I don’t believe I am having network issues.”

Are you having capacity issues?

Maybe a screw is loose.

Matt said...

Hypocritical bitches. Not surprising - they are lefties after all.

Head on over "Black Twitter" and marinate in all the various "hate speech" and calls to murder whites that don't even approach violating their 'community guidelines'.

Michael K said...

Apple has now threatened Parler unless they toe the leftist line.

Good thing I joined a while ago.

YoungHegelian said...

@Chuck,

Sidney Powell got sued today. For $1.3 billion with a B. The plaintiff is Dominion. Plaintiff's counsel is Thomas Clare.

That's not going anywhere, Chuck, which is why it has the ludicrous 1.3B & uses a mad-dog lawyer as plantiff's counsel.

While discovery isn't going to produce what Sidney Powell thought it would, it sure as hell is going to dredge up lots of shit that Dominion doesn't want exposed to light. Also, do you know how much producing the evidence for discovery is going to cost Dominion? Millions. Millions just in emails & on-line docs alone, as opposed to Powell's trivial discovery costs.

Just wait. This isn't going anywhere.

BUMBLE BEE said...

BANS NOT SUSPENDS! Gen Flynn and Sidney Powell too. What was that they said about Trump "building camps"?

Sprezzatura said...

Doc Mike links to a piece about death threats and despicable imagery, and he notes that he’s lucky to be a part of that.

Got it.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Every cop I've met liked my MAGA hat!

mockturtle said...

I've asked this before and never got an answer from anyone that I recall. When the SHTF, what side will rank and file military stand on? And will the National Guard fire on its own citizens? Remember that many of the mercenary Polish and Swedish guards refused to fire on the French citizens storming the Bastille and the Tuileries.

Browndog said...

Sprezzatura said...

“especially if Apple and Google ban Parler from their app stores.”

Not just that, they are banning anything that isn’t pro communism. Gateway said they said so.


Are you 12? Or just an idiot? Or a 12 yr. old idiot?

https://www.facebook.com/dan.bongino (Emergency Message)

Skeptical Voter said...

Ah Chuckles--flogging some defamation lawyer--well heck Lin Wood was one of the "moat feared" defamation lawyers--and look at how he did this time around. I love it when non lawyers engage in a "measuring game"---Lawyer A has a bigger Schwanz that Lawyer B. As the saying goes uneducated opinions and three bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

But this is a pretty stupid move for Twitter. Virtue signaling through shutting communication down amounts to fascism.

Of course if the conservatives in the USA wind up having to do an American version of the Russian samizdat, we'll know who to blame. Obama once told corporate executives that the only thing standing between them and people with pitchforks was Obama his own cute little self. Will he be around to protect the Twitter executives? Somehow I doubt it--but he'll make encouraging defensive noises from the sidelines.

Drago said...

JPS: "Caroline,

"I can’t believe I agree with chuck. Chuck,"

chuck and Chuck are different commenters. Either that or he is large, he contains multitudes."

Correct.

Lower case "chuck" is a conservative poster at Althouse while upper case "Chuck" is a leftist posing as a conservative at Althouse who was banned for being a self-admitted liar and disruptor and who recently strongly endorsed the marxist Warnock in GA.

Browndog said...

@Techno_fog suspended.

Sprezzatura said...

Brown,

So you do think that the platforms are only allowing pro-Communism now.

And, you think I’m the idiot/pre-teen.

Got it.

Drago said...

mockturtle: "I've asked this before and never got an answer from anyone that I recall. When the SHTF, what side will rank and file military stand on? And will the National Guard fire on its own citizens? Remember that many of the mercenary Polish and Swedish guards refused to fire on the French citizens storming the Bastille and the Tuileries."

A strong majority of the rank and file combat soldiers are conservative/republican, which is one reason why leftists like LLR-lefty Chuck despises them with a white hot passion.

Further, large numbers of police, in particular sheriffs and constables, skew more conservative.

So when the lefties insist, and they are already setting the stage, on declaring all Trump voters/populists/conservatives "unworthy" of societal protection, it will make for an "interesting" confrontation scenario.

And given what we already see, its coming.

FullMoon said...

Head on over "Black Twitter" and marinate in all the various "hate speech" and calls to murder whites that don't even approach violating their 'community guidelines'.

The difference, and the weakness. Left can bombard Twitter with complaints, not to mention pressure from politicians. Right has no such organization.

When Wolf Blitzer mildly inquired of Pelosi about the stimulous hold-up, she viciously attacked him as being a right winger for straying.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Jizzpizza gotta try harder girl, Dr. Mike's a big guy

Drago said...

Sprezzatura: "Brown,

So you do think that the platforms are only allowing pro-Communism now."

Being a ChiCom leader who runs concentration camps or an Islamic supremacist leader that throws gays off roofs and calls for the destruction of Israel are not the only ones welcomed on the lefty social platforms, but they are quite noteworthy.

rehajm said...

They'll get around to this place sooner rather than later.

John Marzan said...

2020 is just preparation. 2021 is going to be wild.

FullMoon said...

A strong majority of the rank and file combat soldiers are conservative/republican, which is one reason why leftists like LLR-lefty Chuck despises them with a white hot passion.

Further, large numbers of police, in particular sheriffs and constables, skew more conservative.


Only takes one to pull the trigger.

Arashi said...

Hmm, the ccp did this same type of maneuver in Hong Kong before the big crackdown on the democracy movement there. ALL opposing accounts and content were removed from all social media. I have seen some links today that indicate that facebook, twitter, etall are in the process of removing accounts and content that they say are 'inciting' here in the US. Curious thing is that they are all conservative. No leftist accounts or content promoting actual violence against people who have a different political opinion are ok, and in some case promoted.

So it is OK to advocate that ALL Trump supports - which would include the 75 million or so wjho voted for him - need to be dealt with NOW. Some rants are calling for public violence against a large group of the US populace, but since the ranters are left and the intended victims are conservative, that is apparently OK.

My what a strange place we find ourselves in.

Clyde said...

Apple is threatening to shut down Parler unless it moderates content and comments. They’re giving them 24 hours, supposedly.

Remember how I said yesterday that the Democrats are walking through a minefield? That they should walk like they’re on eggshells but that I expect them to stomp on everything in sight? That didn’t take long, did it? This will not end well.

Brian said...

Tried to create a Parler account. Doesn't go through. I think their account creation tool is underwater with requests.

Sprezzatura said...

Is this the thread where we say the platforms are cracking down on non-loon folks that don’t support communism.

Or is this the thread where we run thought experiments about terrorists taking over our legitimate government and Doc Mike gets happy that he can be part of a place w/ murder threats and despicable images?

Try to keep it together folks.

rhhardin said...

This is called talking past the sale. Trump must have incited violence because we suspended his account.

Drago said...

Sprezzatura was wise to abandon the discussion sub-topic of lefty social platforms, and his/her/xer defense of them, for making a happy home for murderous islamic supremacists and concentration camp-running communists.

Not a good look at this particular time.

chuck said...

When the SHTF, what side will rank and file military stand on?

I've been thinking about that. Are the military as conservative as people think? Maybe not. And I expect they take their oaths seriously, which means they will stay with the government and follow orders as long as they can justify it, and people can justify a lot of things. The city police are probably a mixed bag, the good ones will probably leave if things go bad and there is a place to go. Local sheriffs will likely stick with the locals. The National Guard is a mystery to me.

But what do I know? What does anybody know? We could be entering unknown territory. Too old to fight, to old to run, I'm just spit balling and keeping an eye open.

Gregg said...

"Can he win in 2024 without Twitter?"

You have enough groupies to retweet whatever he says on Parler. Silencing him only makes him a legend. A silent Trump doesn't matter as long as everybody else still talks about him.

steve uhr said...

Now he can spend 100% of his time watching tv and moping around

Readering said...

Parker next.

Drago said...

chuck: "I've been thinking about that. Are the military as conservative as people think? Maybe not."

Overall, the military is not as conservative as it used to be....except at the lower enlisted and non-com combat designated troops.


chuck:"And I expect they take their oaths seriously, which means they will stay with the government and follow orders as long as they can justify it, and people can justify a lot of things."

If the democraticals and deep staters stick to form as other leftist crews have in history, they will send forces, most likely the National Guard, to locations where they are not from to reduce the chance of "familiarity"-inspired refusals to follow orders.

That is standard practice in the lefties beloved Communist China and the former lefty beloved Soviet Union.

Its been done elsewhere as well.

Readering said...

Parler

chuck said...

One thing that might happen is that communities will segregate. Diversity is fine in normal times, but if the SHTF no one will want to live where their neighbors might rat them out.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

I've had a twitter account for just over 10 years. I haven't used it in just over 10 years.

I deleted it today, which is the best use I've gotten out of it.
I also googled "how to delete my Twitter account". Would be kinda nice if that trended.

Browndog said...

You have enough groupies to retweet whatever he says on Parler. Silencing him only makes him a legend. A silent Trump doesn't matter as long as everybody else still talks about him.

Translation: This isn't about silencing Trump. It's about silencing you.

I'm Not Sure said...

"When the SHTF, what side will rank and file military stand on?"

The riots this past summer were definitely not encouraging. I know "police" and "military" are not the same thing, but a fair number of ex-military end up on the police force and the folks with businesses that got trashed didn't get much in the way of help from their local police.

I'm Not Sure said...

"If the democraticals and deep staters stick to form as other leftist crews have in history, they will send forces, most likely the National Guard, to locations where they are not from to reduce the chance of "familiarity"-inspired refusals to follow orders."

I almost included a note in my previous comment that, if military/NG know you, you'd have a better chance of having them cut you some slack.

Browndog said...

Ryan Saavedra

Going to be hilarious when Trump starts using the national alert system to text every person in the nation who has a cell phone

Drago said...

chuck: "One thing that might happen is that communities will segregate. Diversity is fine in normal times, but if the SHTF no one will want to live where their neighbors might rat them out."

Lefties ratting out their neighbors is to be expected.

What is really in store for us is the pooling of data between our own big tech and the deep staters to create the coming Social Media scores which big tech has already delivered to Xi and his ChiCom amigos.

So, while it will be helpful for the lefties to rat out their neughbors, and they will, gleefully, the more pressing danger is what Snowden and others exposed long ago regarding our internal spying capabilities. The very ones deployed against congress, journalists, citizens and the Trump campaign.

That much power...it was inevitable it would be abused.

Jason said...

I've been writing advertisers on my feed on Facebook and Twitter, telling them I'm not doing business with their advertisers at all, due to the suspension of Trump, Walkaway and others.

I close by telling them to tell their ad reps.

steve uhr said...

I did read Twitter’s explanation and thought it was weak. It didn’t focus on the content of the recent two tweets but rather on how they might be interpreted by some of his supporters. It’s problematic to announce on Twitter that he would not attend the inauguration? Don’t see it.

Brian said...

I want to propose a thought experiment. What statement could Trump have made regarding Biden's inauguration that would NOT have resulted in a ban according to the standard Twitter has used?

If Trump had said he was going to Biden's inauguration would that have been safe? If he hadn't answered the question at all would that have been safe? If he had said he was going to the inauguration and was going to personally kneel in front of Biden and ask for forgiveness would that have been safe? All of those statements could be construed as leading to violence. If no statement is safe what does that mean?

The rationale for their ban is not logical. This is about control.

I worry that we don't have a president in this country until January 20. It's extremely possible that nobody is answering orders from the White House anymore.

I'm Not Sure said...

"If he had said he was going to the inauguration and was going to personally kneel in front of Biden and ask for forgiveness would that have been safe?"

He could kneel in front of Biden and suck his dick, but that would probably enrage Heels Up. No way to win here.

Gunner said...

Wish they had done it four years ago. It distracted him too much.

Darkisland said...

Gab has been banned by the Google Play store for a couple of years now.

I'm not sure it was ever even in the store at all. I assume ditto Apple store but don't know.

No problem at all to download the app directly.

I have Parler that I got from the Play store a couple years ago. I expect that if the app is not already available from Parler.com it will be shortly.

I have Gab that I got direct from Gab.com 4-5 years ago.

Never done much with either though I have been using Parler a little bit in recent weeks.

John Henry

BillieBob Thorton said...

Looks like boring went right out the window. Slow Joe isn't even in office yet and the shit is already hitting the fan.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

BillieBob Thorton said...

Looks like boring went right out the window. Slow Joe isn't even in office yet and the shit is already hitting the fan.

Well, he wants to be a healer. Now's the time. He needs to come out and call for calm, maybe tell the talking heads in the media to shut up and stop beating the revenge drum.

Darkisland said...

Donald Trump has been on Parler for at least a couple months as a verified account.

I wonder if he created the account or someone at Parler created it for him to reserve it.

Not a lot of posts there as one would expect if someone at Parler was just echoing his Twitter feed.

But there are some and sound like him. I don't know if they are echoed from Twitter or if they are original posts.

I was trying to look him up but I keep getting timed out. I suspect because they are probably adding millions of followers today.

John Henry

rcocean said...

Remember when a Judge ruled Trump couldn't ban people from commenting on his tweets. So, then why can Twitter ban Trump while he's President?

Anyway, it would seem there is some cause for legal action, if Twitter and all these Tech Companies ban together and prevent trump from appearing on their platforms. I would think antirust would come into play. but that's just legal theory.

In reality, all of Congress - especially the R Senate - has been bought off by Big Tech. Mitch, Romney, and the whole gang only cares about $$$ - they're completely UNINTERESTED in helping Conservatives have a voice online.

Darkisland said...

A quick correction to Qwinn, I think.

The military does not take an oath to support the government. They take a oath to support the Constitution.

We used to get lectured on that difference regularly back in the day.

I think it is a critical distinction. I also think it gives someone in the military a way to justify going against the government if they think the govt is violating the Constitution.

It may not be any good as a legal defense. But it may help them feel more comfortable in their mind.

The prez is the commander in chief and uniformed military are required to obey all lawful orders from anyone above them in the chain of command.

But they are also required to disobey unlawful orders. An order that contravenes the Constitution would certainly be unlawful.

John Henry

rcocean said...

Biden says he started his campaign because of Charlottesville and Trump supporting Nazis. He went along with EVERY lie and attack on Republicans and Trump in every Democrat Debate. He mocked and insulted Trump in the debates. So, why would he change now?

Why would anyone think Biden was lying when he endorsed the radical agenda? Other than wishful thinking.

rcocean said...

google and apple are now trying to destroy parler. They should be able to take action, since they are trying to destroy a competitor to twitter.

Marcus said...

Why is Chuck with a capital "C" still here?

rcocean said...

THe president is commander in chief and soldiers have to obey lawful orders. Of course, if the soldiers know that by disobeying Trump, who will be gone in a few days, that they will not be punished by the new Commander in Chief, there is no incentive for them to care what Trump orders them to do.

Anyway, this sounds all far fetched and rather odd. Trump is the most peaceful President in the last 40 years. And he has a career ahead of him, if he wants it. The Belief he's going to do something "crazy" is just projection by Crazy people.

Marcus said...

I have a high school friend who denounced Trump today on her FB account. That was her post: I denounce Trump. She sent me a DM apologizing. She said she was forced to do that to keep peace with her family and still considers DJT to be the best president of her lifetime. This is what the Left has come to. I understand that she must do what she must do. That is a personal decision and I am grateful that she reached out to let me know how she truly feels.

THEOLDMAN


rcocean said...

"This is called talking past the sale. Trump must have incited violence because we suspended his account."

Just as aside, I wish people would stop talking about Twitter banning Trump. Jack Dorsey banned Trump. He approved it, if he didn't initiate it. Zuckerberg banned Trump from facebook.

Lets be clear that its a handful of Tech billionaires doing this.

n.n said...

And so it progresses.

n.n said...

Lets be clear that its a handful of Tech billionaires doing this.

On the face, yes. Single, central, monopoly-oriented solutions. Go left, young... whatever the popular label.

MadisonMan said...

I notice this was done *after* it was clear that Republicans would not be chairing oversight comittees.

stonethrower said...

This is the worst sentence I have read on this blog, "I don't think I would have published it if I'd thought of it.

Can someone tell me what exactly "it" means?

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

rcocean said...

Just as aside, I wish people would stop talking about Twitter banning Trump. Jack Dorsey banned Trump. He approved it, if he didn't initiate it. Zuckerberg banned Trump from facebook.

I have no proof, but personally I don't think Dorsey really runs twitter or even has any idea what goes on day to day there. He's nothing more than a figurehead.

Leland said...

It means people worried about a vulnerability don’t broadcast that vulnerability and their fears it will be exploited. Rationale people would conceal the vulnerability and find ways to minimize any threat to it before opposition becomes aware of it.

Twitter is claiming that Trump created this vulnerability by not attending, yet Trump never mentioned it nor suggested anyone exploit it, Twitter mentioned it, and then suggests others might exploit it.

I’m reminded of this.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

Biden's corrupt little pee pee withered off a long time ago. There's just two empty ball sacks dragging on the floor.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

..but that is where he keeps his brain... which makes total sense when you hear Biden speak.

The Drill SGT said...

This is the voice of world control. I bring you peace. It may be the peace of plenty and content or the peace of unburied death. The choice is yours: Obey me and live, or disobey and die.

mockturtle said...

Darkisland observes: I think it is a critical distinction. I also think it gives someone in the military a way to justify going against the government if they think the govt is violating the Constitution.

Exactamente! And the legal definition pertaining to '...enemies foreign and domestic.. ' is explained in this excerpt from Defense One, a definition by--of all people--a Berkeley law professor:

Most Constitutional scholars would side with Berkeley law professor Orin Kerr in reading the provision much more narrowly. Wrote Kerr: “The oath is probably best understood” not as an invitation for millions of Americans to independently enforce their own view of the Constitution, rooting out domestic enemies as they see fit, but “in its historical context as a promise to oppose political reforms outside the Constitution. You have to stay loyal to the government that is based on the Constitution, and you can’t support a rebellion or overthrow of that government.”

mockturtle said...

Obey me and live, or disobey and die.

O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? I Corinth. 15:55

Joe Smith said...

"Lets be clear that its a handful of Tech billionaires doing this."

Can you say oligarch?

I knew you could.

Sebastian said...

"What's so bad about those?"

Seriously, Althouse?

They are by Trump. They are stuff the actual ruling class doesn't like. Ergo, bye-bye DJT.

The new normal, very calm.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

Leftwing tech oligarchs - drunk on their wealth and power.

We know

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

The left are Soviets and Nazis. Speech Crime Fascists... little jackbooted corruption whores. drunk on power and money.

Inga said...

Be on the lookout for a new Twitter account under the name of John Barron...

FullMoon said...

Wannabe Tyrant Michelle Obama Calls For Tech Companies to Permanently Ban President Trump From Their Platforms

Mark said...

Once it passed the point of 'it is no longer if, it is when', there was no point in waiting.

Let deplatformed Parler have him.

The Vault Dweller said...

Blogger Inga said...
Be on the lookout for a new Twitter account under the name of John Barron...


I saw that one it was actually kind of funny. I liked the mustache. Was that the name Trump may have used as a pseudonym to call up some person or radio show and defend Donald Trump?

iowan2 said...

Maybe it has been noted up thread.

But it would be too easy to go back 4 years and see how may tweets were organizing violence at the inauguration of President Trump. We all know whats going on here.

in other news

Its been fun here at the blog, Thanks Professor. With google and apple shutting down Parler(anti trust issues?) this space has a definite expiration date.

It is starting to get a certain wiff about it...but it could just be the new trolls.

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Joe Smith said...

"Be on the lookout for a new Twitter account under the name of John Barron..."

Pierre Delecto and Carlos Danger will be eager followers.

Admit it, you've got nothing other than hatred in your heart.

Narayanan said...

chuck said...
When the SHTF, what side will rank and file military stand on?

I've been thinking about that. Are the military as conservative as people think? Maybe not.
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my thoughts over past few days re: who and how benefits from foreign military adventures by USA establishment.

'R' support to shore up base + $$$$
'D' support to train killers to bring back home + $$$$

Narciso may have further insights.

eddie willers said...

We became inured to rioting from the left because we have seen it for over 50 years. That any violence came from conservatives for the first time in my life this week (I'm 68) SHOULD make the powers that be sit up and wonder why such an unusual action took place. It shows that something is very, very wrong.

Instead, they want to double down on political suppression. I was shocked Wednesday, but the reactions since has put me on the banks of the Rubicon. If I see impeachment/amendment 25 and more oppression, I will CROSS that Rubicon!

Never in my dreams could I have imagined the anger that is growing within me towards my government and their media/tech company enablers.

Joe Smith said...

"When the SHTF, what side will rank and file military stand on?"

Obama fired all of the generals with balls.

He made the rest pledge fealty in order to keep their jobs.

I don't see any spine in that group.

Rank and file should be better, but who knows...

Qwinn said...

Darkisland: Not sure what I've said that you're referring to? I haven't said anything about military being loyal to the government rather than Constitution.

My view on that is I think the military has all they need in the oath to get involved in this struggle by the simple words "against all enemies foreign and domestic". Well, that and orders from their CIC.

Qwinn said...

I am actually gaining hope at this point. The completely over the top attempts to utterly silence Trump, to not let him get another word out on completely ridiculous basis, tells me they're *terrified* about what he *could* say. And one of the things he said in that speech that Ann analyzed was "wait till you see what comes out over the next few days" (I was there when he said it). And now suddenly EVERY corporation is trying to shut him up? That tells me what he has to say is an existential threat to all of them, or at least they're afraid that it is. The fact that over 20 laptops apparently went missing from the Capitol on Wednesday could easily explain the timing of that panic here.

Qwinn said...

Note that I believe the Left are domestic enemies to both the government and the Constitution. They may actually BE the government now, but that was accomplished by unconstitutional means such as fraud, bribery, blackmail, infiltration, weaponization of law enforcement, unequal application of the laws and a dozen other sins. The government we have is not the government that would exist in the absence of those crimes, and the military's duty is to that displaced legitimate government that must be restored for the Constitution to mean anything at all.

Unknown said...

SIMPLE

Trump lacks the SOCIAL CREDIT to have a voice

He has sinned and received demerits

Unlike China's social credit system based on logic

There NO WAY BACK for our scapegoats

Unknown said...

The new CANCEL is your spot must be earned by FULL aquiescence to all that is Liberal

And maintained by constant bowing

Ask Mitt Romney

No longer Putting Them Back In Chains

Mitt has earned the table scraps

thew his growth into an example of

heeling

to others who need to be brought to heel

they can be rewarded with something less than absolution

The Gift of Lincoln Project

Marcus said...

Milquetoast Lindsey Graham was accosted in an airport and called many bad names by the patriots in the concourse. I think "asshole" and "traitor" were among them. Later, he went on Twitter to criticize that platform's decision to close DJT's account.

The Republicans had a chance to alter Section 230. Now it is too late.

THEOLDMAN

wendybar said...

"The Republicans had a chance to alter Section 230. Now it is too late."

The republicans are squishes who ALWAYS cave to the Democrats which is why Trump is so popular. He fights for us...the only one who ever did.

Readering said...

I wonder how many buttered scones will be served in November 2024 when Biden has his successor over to the WH for tea.

GDI said...

Parler runs on Amazon Web Services (AWS). So, in addition to Apple and Google blacklisting Parler from their app stores, AWS will throttle and ultimately deplatform Parler. On a side note, Parler claims to never share personal information and that may be so but AWS happens to be a major CIA contractor ... what may we deduce from that relationship?

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Clyde,

Apple is threatening to shut down Parler unless it moderates content and comments. They’re giving them 24 hours, supposedly.

The most ridiculous 24-hour ultimatum since the one Austria-Hungary gave Serbia in 1914. And look what that got us.

Joe Smith,

Can you say oligarch?

I knew you could.


EXACTLY. We in the US are under the impression that mega-billionaires with boundless cash and near-infinite power exist only in some other countries far, far away, and that they and their comfy dachas can safely be ignored. Not so.

Readering said...

Are we still talking about Trump?

GDI said...

OTOH, AWS may keep Parler up and running ... easier for the overlords to monitor conservative "wrongthink".

Readering said...

At the moment FBI more using cell phone location features.

daskol said...

It's really hard not to own these tech giants, comprising as they do about 25% of the S&P index, but it's probably worth trying. And it's a good time to divest, as they've run far ahead of most stocks, and there's been a trend into value and smaller companies observable since late fall. And Twitter is a dog of a stock and company anyway.

Readering said...

Twitter is a dog of a stock because providing a platform for a loon with a gazillion followers does not translate into lots of revenue. Finally figured that out yesterday.

daskol said...

I see, so alienating some huge portion of those gazillion followers is going to translate to more revenue. Thanks! I'll pick up some shares right away now that they've ironed out the kinks in their business plan and no longer need that network effect to pump up their valuation.

daskol said...

when Twitter announces their first ever huge decline in users next quarter, that's when we can expect it to skyrocket as the finance types react to hard evidence that Twitter has rid itself of those 10s of millions of pesky users.

Readering said...

If only the solution to twitter's profit problems were that easy.

Jim at said...

Keep pushing it, leftists.
Keep it up.

You have no idea of the fire you're playing with.

Bunkypotatohead said...

"I've asked this before and never got an answer from anyone that I recall. When the SHTF, what side will rank and file military stand on? And will the National Guard fire on its own citizens?"

Ashli Babbitt could answer that question, were she still with us.

Jon Burack said...

"Permanently suspended" does not sound like an internally consistent concept. In any case, I had already suspended Twitter for the duration of my life. It will be hard to make that truly "permanent," but if I can, I will.