January 15, 2021

"There was an eerie sense of inexorability, the throngs of Trump supporters advancing up the long lawn as if pulled by a current."

"Everyone seemed to understand what was about to happen. The past nine weeks had been steadily building toward this moment. On November 7th, mere hours after Biden’s win was projected, I attended a protest at the Pennsylvania state capitol, in Harrisburg. Hundreds of Trump supporters, including heavily armed militia members, vowed to revolt. When I asked a man with an assault rifle—a 'combat-skills instructor' for a militia called the Pennsylvania Three Percent—how likely he considered the prospect of civil conflict, he told me, 'It’s coming.' Since then, Trump and his allies had done everything they could to spread and intensify this bitter aggrievement. On December 5th, Trump acknowledged, 'I’ve probably worked harder in the last three weeks than I ever have in my life.'... Militant pro-Trump outfits like the Proud Boys—a national organization dedicated to 'reinstating a spirit of Western chauvinism' in America—had been openly gearing up for major violence. In early January, on Parler, an unfiltered social-media site favored by conservatives, Joe Biggs, a top Proud Boys leader, had written, 'Every law makers who breaks their own stupid Fucking laws should be dragged out of office and hung.' On the Mall, a makeshift wooden gallows, with stairs and a rope, had been constructed near a statue of Ulysses S. Grant.... I followed a group that broke off to advance on five policemen guarding a side corridor. 'Stand down,' a man in a maga hat commanded. 'You’re outnumbered. There’s a fucking million of us out there, and we are listening to Trump—your boss.' 'We can take you out,' a man beside him warned." 

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chuck said...

Luke Mogelson is a contributing writer at The New York Times Magazine and a recipient of the National Magazine Award in 2014. His fiction has appeared in The New Yorker, The Paris Review, The Hudson Review, The Missouri Review, and The Kenyon Review. He lives in Paris

No comment.

The Crack Emcee said...

Why would you trust the New Yorker?

Lucid-Ideas said...

"...declaring...they would be going to violent lengths..."

Gee, that sounds familiar. I wonder where else I heard that last year.

Kai Akker said...

"eerie"

Talk about cliches. If they're going to write this junk, please bring back Norman Mailer! At least he had a point to make and was capable of doing so.

Matt Sablan said...

That's radically different than how other eyewitnesses who were there described it.

Again: I don't doubt there were Trump supporters in the riot and who wanted to riot. But... the excerpt provided here reads so differently from all the others, that I instinctively want to reject it. But, there was a lot of chaos, so it is possible this account is true, or the author's perceptions are at least accurate to their memory.

The Crack Emcee said...

I asked yesterday how we're going to live with liars and hypocrites, but, today, I know we won't.

Y'all will see to that.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

"The New Yorker"

ooo - no bias there./

Gusty Winds said...

At the moment there are more than 26,000 troops in Wash DC and growing.

I believe this is two Divisions. Not Regiments, or Brigades. Divisions.

But the Capitol Police were denied their request for help from the National Guard. Just...like...Kenosha....

Two plus divisions for an unarmed insurrection? What are they expecting, or planning? The words we are reading don't match what we are seeing. I don't have an answer, but we know this "all Trump supporters are domestic terrorists" isn’t real.

YoungHegelian said...

'Every law makers who breaks their own stupid Fucking laws should be dragged out of office and hung.'

That's insurrectionist? You could probably get agreement with that sentiment across 95% of the electorate. There's nothing more galling than a lawmaker who imposes rules that he breaks when it suits him. Even the people who decide to look the other way don't like it. I mean, does anyone --- anyone --- think that HRC's behavior with the email server & secured data was a good idea? Or, was it something to overlook in order to get a "greater good", i.e. HRC in office? Did Gavin Newsom's high-end restaurant outing win him any friends among the electorate?

As for the Proud Boys' term "Western Chauvinist", what the hell does that mean? That's clearly either a technical term within the Proud Boys ideology, or it's an imposition by their opponents. In neither case does its casual use in a New Yorker article explain anything.

daskol said...

I bet this writer can smell Trump supporters in Walmart.

WK said...

At one time wasn’t there a Trump effigy in a guillotine set up out side the White House? That kinda seems like a threat as well.

daskol said...

The Capital ain't Walmart! They should go back to Walmart, or the Olive Garden or wherever they go for sustenance.

Wilbur said...

Just seems to me that the protestors - largely peaceful, right? - were not all about "keeping Trump in power". They WERE angry because what they considered to be clear and widespread examples of election fraud were pointedly ignored or brushed aside as if they were not worthy of consideration.

The democratic process was sabotaged by The Democratic Process.

daskol said...

Maybe all they really needed was a good croissant.

DarigoldVanilla said...

Damn. Those qanon wackjobs really were plotting some evil shit.
So was the leader that filled their heads with lies and set them on attack.
Violence fueled by conspiracies and hatred, is the essence of Trumpism.

The Crack Emcee said...

15 years ago, my quackery-loving wife said "We're in the hospitals - we're getting legit - you'd better 'get it' before it's too late." And, ever since then, I've watched the NewAge Nazis gaining in strength and influence, while everyone else denies it, and carefully keeps an eye on anyone reacting negatively to it at all.

Lucid-Ideas said...

@TCEmcee

"I asked yesterday how we're going to live with liars and hypocrites, but, today, I know we won't."

The parents are divorced in all but name, and quite frankly the 'doing it for the kids' is up in the air as well. At this point living in the same house is a necessity, but like any divorce/separation it won't remain that way for long. An ever descending series of ever more egregious actions - eventually leading to the 'last straw' - will continue to manifest until an interparental royal rumble.

Someone will leave. Someone will get the house. 'Friends' will be 'weaponized' to get involved and 'take sides' if you know what I mean.

We. Will. Not.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

After months of dangerous riots by Antifa - labeled "mostly peaceful" by the press - now this.

The rally for Trump was mostly peaceful and it didn't get awful and violent until the clashes at the Capitol.
and those crowds were allowed into the Capitol with ease! WHY!?

I have no doubt some militant Trump supporters acted stupidly. I also have no doubt False flag operations by Antifa militants escalated to give us what happened. The media will do all they can to hide the truth.

When the worst of the left and the right clash. But we will never hear about the Antifa false flag operations.

Lucid-Ideas said...

@WK

...Or a D-List actress carrying a sitting president's head.

YoungHegelian said...

@GW,

Two plus divisions for an unarmed insurrection? What are they expecting, or planning? The words we are reading don't match what we are seeing. I don't have an answer, but we know this "all Trump supporters are domestic terrorists" isn’t real.

Yep. Something very serious is going down & I'm too damn close to it for comfort. I'm keeping a watchful eye, examining the news with a Pravda "read between the lines" eye, and getting prepped in case it all goes south.

But, two divisions! We could fucking invade Lebanon with two divisions! This seems to me to be preparation for a coup attempt by other military units, and not against civilians.

daskol said...

Someone will leave. Someone will get the house. 'Friends' will be 'weaponized' to get involved and 'take sides' if you know what I mean.


Is that why Bill Gates is buying up all the farmland?

The Crack Emcee said...

DarigoldVanilla is back for another episode of Relentless Denial on Public Display - what part of reality will you be rejecting today, DV?

daskol said...

YH, Kurt Schlichter calls the troops in DC "Vindman's Army."

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

The press are going to amplify the wrong doing of some crazy people - so they can paint with their broad Democrat Party Brush.

Temujin said...

Yeah, even Luke Mogelson knew that there was a potential for trouble. Add in the obvious Antifa slugs looking for anarchy opportunities whenever they are presented, and pretty much everyone knew there was a potential for trouble.

Except the Capitol Police. The National Guard. The Mayor of DC.

I am pretty damned sure the Democrats and Republicans had to know. One can only wonder why they were not screaming for some large show of security.
And of course, the FBI knew, but for some odd reason wanted to keep it to themselves. They do that with the truth pretty regularly as it turns out.

It's not like a massive crowd in a highly charged political environment has never responded to some well-lit sparks.

Nonapod said...

You can find people who will say anything. Saying and doing are two widely different things.

What happened at the capitol last week was never a true insurrection attempt. I don't care how many articles in the NYT, WaPo, or The New Yorker there are that attempt to argue the point.

I'm not saying that there aren't some dangerous people out there. And I'm not saying that violence from right wingers won't happen in the coming weeks and months. It very well could happen. People are angry and feel disenfranchised. And I truly feel like there's nothing that the incoming administration is doing or saying is doing anything to mollify these feelings. There's no healing. In fact, the way the tech companies are behaving seems to be ramping up the feelings of anger and distrust.

mccullough said...

“eerie” and “inexorably”

What would we do without New Yorker writers.

tim maguire said...

Interesting how the left-wing medias' eyewitness accounts are so dramatically different from the right-wing medias' eyewitness accounts.

The Crack Emcee said...

Somebody without a name thinks I'm ridiculous because the salon is bullshiting in the middle of a serious political crisis.

Because it's a serious political crisis I would've kicked the dick without a name off already.

mccullough said...

Do currents push or pull?

Howard said...

Talk is cheap.

Rick said...

Gusty Winds said...
Two plus divisions for an unarmed insurrection? What are they expecting, or planning?


Political people don't live in the real world, that's why their judgement is so poor. Everything they do is symbolism.

The Crack Emcee said...

We don't need Howard, either.

Come on, Ann - be the female Jack Dorsey for us.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

The media lie, stretch the truth, twist, distort, amplify what they want, and down-play what is necessary for the narrative.

Howard said...

Blogger mccullough said...

Do currents push or pull?


Water seeks it's own level

mccullough said...

How many throngs were there?

Howard said...

What brand of spleef you smoking, Crack? It seems quite paranoic

Lucid-Ideas said...

@Daskol

One thing I know very well from my time in spook world is this...

Regardless of who leaves and who gets the house, there are tons and tons of 'friends' that don't care which is which so long as America fails. Some of these friends have money, and some of these 'neighbors' can hear very well the screaming matches happening inside.

They'd love nothing more that to scoop up the house at arbitrage pricing.

daskol said...

The difference between Trump going to Trump country and holding a rally there, where local people predominate vs. inviting his staunchest supporters to travel to DC means this was a different crowd than usual. I am anticipating that there will be some genuinely dangerous Trump supporting folks they can plaster all over the news, to distract from the various agents provocateurs (for whom the DC rally would be much easier to infiltrate given it's in enemy territory).

But...in support of the scary narrative woven in this NYer piece, the DOJ presents animal skin shaman-man, he is the one they lead with? Crafting and controlling narrative is their job, and they fucking suck at it.

tim maguire said...

On the Mall, a makeshift wooden gallows, with stairs and a rope, had been constructed near a statue of Ulysses S. Grant

The phrase, "my ass" comes to mind.

There’s a fucking million of us out there, and we are listening to Trump—your boss

No one on the right would say that. Ever. Trump is not their boss, the American people are their boss.

Temujin said...

Not that there was a plan or anything. Let's plan a riot.

Rick said...

YoungHegelian said...
As for the Proud Boys' term "Western Chauvinist", what the hell does that mean?


It means they think Western Civilization is better then others. The left believes Western Civilization is white supremacist so this is their way of calling the PB White Supremacist.

mccullough said...

Was it a MAGA hat or a MAGA cap?

Lucid-Ideas said...

@Rick

"The left believes Western Civilization is white supremacist so this is their way of calling the PB White Supremacist."

I've traveled to 30+ countries, and fought in 2. The left are going to miss it when it's gone.

Laslo Spatula said...

Sisqo. Throng Song.

Because.

I am Laslo.

The Crack Emcee said...

Howard said...

"What brand of spleef you smoking, Crack? It seems quite paranoic"

Everybody knows who my usual suspects for trouble mare - Gahrie, Drago, Michael K, etc. - I'm not calling for any of them to be removed. But the cultists here now - just to antagonize during this travesty they're pulling - fuck them. Get 'em out of here.

They stink up the joint.

rhhardin said...

It's the parody edition of the New Yorker.

Inga said...

“Stand down,' a man in a maga hat commanded. 'You’re outnumbered. There’s a fucking million of us out there, and we are listening to Trump—your boss.' 'We can take you out,' a man beside him warned."”

All that violence based on a fantasy. Looks like they want to fight a war even if it’s over pretend fraud perpetrated by a con man.

Shouting Thomas said...

I was going to do the "she said he said" Cain vs. Abel thing here, but I see it's already been covered.

Gonna be a ton of that shit for the next few years.

Skeptical Voter said...

So you get a fiction writer--channeling what--his inner Joseph Conrad? So he writes a little tale about drums in the jungle and the natives are restless. Well heck yeah the natives and other deplorables are restless.

We are not yet at the stage where the "natives" in Italy shot and hung Mussolini and his mistress, or the Romanians put paid to the Ceaucescu (sp?) regime. But ultimately people get fed up when you abuse them long enough--and they revolt.

And some state governors are smart enough (although it's hard to think of Gavin Newsom as particularly smart) to mobilize the National Guard to protect state capitol buildings. Newsom has called the Guard to Sacramento; Insless has been screaming for the Guard in Olympia Washington. Protests at the various State capitols (Wretched Gretchen Whitmer can you hear me) will mostly be about the draconian lockdowns.

mccullough said...

An “assault rifle” is a fully automatic weapon. Not a semi-automatic.

I doubt the guy had a machine guy.

mccullough said...

A hat has a brim. I’ve never seen a MAGA hat. Do they have MAGA fedoras, trilbys, homburgs?

The Crack Emcee said...

Actually - my bad:

I'm gone.

Y'all can chatter your nation away.

DarigoldVanilla said...

what part of reality will you be rejecting today, DV?

That’s some textbook projectionist there, cupcake.
Do you even read some of the posts from your fellow tin foil capped qanon brethren in here?
Denying reality is a necessary and evidently, proud component of being
a MAGAt.

rehajm said...

Sure New Yorker readers, you look down at these people now, all smug and self satisfied with yourself but once you realize your friends aren't moving back from Jackson Hole and Rezdora isn't opening again and that major chunk of trust fund you used to finally finish renovating the co-op is gone forever...

...well you're gonna feel that way, too.

MayBee said...

This is all crowding out the news that Jacob Blake admitted he had an open knife with him when the cops were yelling "Drop the knife!"

daskol said...

mccollough, once upon a time I think assault rifle meant a machine gun. now it means semi-automatic that looks scary to progressives.

PM said...

"unfiltered" triggers my Drum tobacco days.

Jupiter said...

It goes like this;

"Lying liars lie and lie, doo-dah, doo-dah!"

iowan2 said...

Is that why Bill Gates is buying up all the farmland?

1/15/21, 11:01 AM

The Gell-Mann amnesia effect, kicked in here.

The artical states that Gates farmland purchases were by Cascade Ivestments, Gates' investment firm.

Small nit to pick. Lots of states prohibit Corporate Ownership of Farmland. I know Iowa does, and the article lists Iowa as one of those state where "Gates" bought property.

While is sounds like lots of land. Its not. I have a higher portion of my net worth in farmland than Gates does. Land is hedge against inflation, like metals. It is not a good income investment, and only works for the long haul (decades) and is not liquid at all. Maximizing profits require the ability to wait years for the price to rebound, in bad years. Like the last 8 years in Corn/soy production areas.

DarigoldVanilla said...

This is all crowding out the news that Jacob Blake admitted he had an open knife with him when the cops were yelling "Drop the knife!"
That thug got what he deserved!

Now do the violent traitor that was breaching the inner chamber of the Capitol and got was prevented from doing so.
Some folks are trying to turn her into a martyr.

Michael K said...

What are they expecting, or planning? The words we are reading don't match what we are seeing. I don't have an answer, but we know this "all Trump supporters are domestic terrorists" isn’t real.

I expect a false flag operation. The trouble is that 99% of Trump supporters are peaceful, the sort that pick up the trash. If they manage to get something going, that 99% is going to drop fast. It's too obvious.

Somewhere a Tim McVeigh is watching all this.

daskol said...

Hey New Yorker, can you publish me? Here's a snippet of something I'm working on.

It was a dark and stormy night, a purple haze hung like a dead Congressman across the mall. It was eerie, inexorable and eerie at the same time, and I could smell the Trump supporters around me. Also weed and patchouli, which was strange, but these are strange times indeed.

Shouting Thomas said...

Any way (not just getting your way) to stop this cascade into insanity + violence?

I don't want my grandchildren caught up in war.

mccullough said...

Another writer with a scruffy beard to distract from a retreating hairline.

iowan2 said...

“Stand down,' a man in a maga hat commanded. 'You’re outnumbered. There’s a fucking million of us out there, and we are listening to Trump—your boss.' 'We can take you out,' a man beside him warned."”

All that violence based on a fantasy. Looks like they want to fight a war even if it’s over pretend fraud perpetrated by a con man.


Stop posting lies

Michael K said...

As for trolls, all it takes is clicking next to their handle. The comment is gone in an instant.

Fernandinande said...

Mentions of Drum tobacco trigger my Bugler tobacco days.

Lucid-Ideas said...

@Shouting Thomas

"I don't want my grandchildren caught up in war."

That would be nice, but bayesian probability for that outcome is degrading. Also keep in mind, that includes another, potentially large, 'forever war' overseas.

That bayesian probability is also increasing.

Bob Boyd said...

A chronicle of an attack foretold

A narrative of an attack foretold

Patrick said...

Another imagined fantasy as told by a journalist. It's cutenhow the writer cobbles together audio snippits from youtube videos and inserts them here as if he heard them. I guess it's a good way to nail down the tone.

mezzrow said...

"As for trolls, all it takes is clicking next to their handle. The comment is gone in an instant."

This. Particularly when the content is below that of any mid level AI currently available.

You're not even engaging with a real person. Remember that. It's 2021.

Bob Boyd said...

Somewhere a Tim McVeigh is watching all this

That's what I've been saying.

Fustigator said...

Ann,

Dont know if you allow links or not, but here are two links to on the ground reporting from Capitol protest that provide a bit of a different perspective from that of the media narrative that is the New Yorker article

I put bit more weight to on the ground reporting. And, I realize that everyone is inherently biased.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/14/i-saw-provocateurs-at-the-capitol-riot-on-jan-6/

https://www.michaelyon-online.com/agent-provocateur-tactics-seen-at-jan-6-us-capitol-protest-interview-with-michael-yon-crossroads.htm

Inga said...

The election was won by Biden. 81 million Americans voted for him. 81 million Americans are going to get sick of the insanity coming from MAGA loons. 81 million Americans are not going to continue allowing the MAGA loons to destroy this country. There are already many investigations going on and there will be much more info about who was behind all of this. Those people won’t evade justice this time.

Leland said...

Everyone seemed to understand what was about to happen.

According to most of the people interviewed in the crowd; they didn't know what was happening.

how likely he considered the prospect of civil conflict, he told me, 'It’s coming.'

He probably saw what was happening in Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, Kenosha, and St. Louis and figured it was making its way to Pennsylvania. By the way, aren't those St. Louis lawyers still charged for protecting their home from an armed mob that had breached the gate to their property?

Bob Boyd said...

They're building the necessary narrative to go after guns and the right of assembly.

Sebastian said...

"A chronicle of an attack foretold"

So, if the attack was foretold, what was there for Trump to incite?

rcocean said...

200,000 peaceful protestors and 200 were in the Captial Building. Including John Sullivan - a BLM/Antifa Plant just arrested by the FBI.

Why do keep posting the lies from the New yorker. does althouse Still think they are telling the truth? what a gullible rube!

Shouting Thomas said...

I've discovered something I hadn't thought of in respect of Trump in the past few weeks. He never had the bodies necessary to take control of the FBI, CIA, DOJ and the federal bureaucracy. Unlike a career politician, he obviously did not spend decades building up a retinue that he could cast in crucial roles. He never really took control of the ship. The outsider bit runs aground here. I hadn't expected that.

Trump wasn't even able to control the electoral process. He had no tentacles out into the states and locals so that he could stop the massive and illegal manipulation of the voting laws.

This is really something to consider. This is a reality of the music biz, too, which I've known all my life. Being a great musician isn't enough. You have to be associated with the right people and you have to have your ducks in a row.

Trump failed a realpolitick test, here. I've thought for some time that the prof, an obviously clever office politician, objected to Trump on this ground.

Fernandinande said...

A hat has a brim. I’ve never seen a MAGA hat

It's a type of assault hat.

Michael K said...

Unlike a career politician, he obviously did not spend decades building up a retinue that he could cast in crucial roles. He never really took control of the ship. The outsider bit runs aground here. I hadn't expected that.

I did not either. I suspect Trump thought the bureaucracy was honest and patriotic. Big mistake. The Tea Party should have been an indicator but I don't see how he could have overcome the lack of honest staff.

Mike Sylwester said...

The New Yorker prints funny cartoons.

Rick said...

DarigoldVanilla said...
This is all crowding out the news that Jacob Blake admitted he had an open knife with him when the cops were yelling "Drop the knife!"
That thug got what he deserved!

Now do the violent traitor that was breaching the inner chamber of the Capitol and got was prevented from doing so.


It's revealing they have to pretend there's no difference between armed and unarmed to make a point. Smarter people would choose not to speak at all rather than reveal this is their best justification.

Bob Boyd said...

It's a type of assault hat.

Yup. It usually has a high capacity cranium in the head well.

MayBee said...

Now do the violent traitor that was breaching the inner chamber of the Capitol and got was prevented from doing so.
Some folks are trying to turn her into a martyr.


I guess I missed the part where Ashlii's family has become an important family to the entire Republican leadership, where the President and Vice President are issuing statements in support of her, and where cities are burning to the ground because she was shot.

Francisco D said...

Michael K said...As for trolls, all it takes is clicking next to their handle. The comment is gone in an instant.

I am not sure how that works. When I see someone posting feverishly I just scroll past, just as when our resident idiot bleats some nonsense.

One way to minimize trolls is to never say their name.

CWJ said...

"I followed a group that broke off to advance on five policemen guarding a side corridor. 'Stand down,' a man in a maga hat commanded. 'You’re outnumbered. There’s a fucking million of us out there, and we are listening to Trump—your boss.' 'We can take you out,' a man beside him warned."

Funny. This jibes with John Sullivan's reported actions, right down to the hat. Hmm.

Chennaul said...

The New Yorker. When are they going to do an embed report on antifa? Or is that the problem— they are too in bed with antifa.

Nonapod said...

rcocean said...200,000 peaceful protestors and 200 were in the Captial Building

Assuming those numbers are accurate (which they seem to be) that's around 0.01% who behaved badly. Those numbers are actually strangely reassuring.

Narayanan said...

Gusty Winds said...
At the moment there are more than 26,000 troops in Wash DC and growing.
------------==============
Wondering if they also have social worker credentials?! ?as promised by Democratics?.

PM said...

The NYer and the NYT, who've hated Trump ever since Spy made it fun, will continue to use Trump for years as the useful adjective for any conservative they fear.

walter said...

Inexorable advance: walking

walter said...

CWJ,
Yes, it does sound like Sullivan.
I suspect the piece is a "composite".

Lars Porsena said...

"... including heavily armed militia members...." Always with the 'heavily armed' schtick but they never seem to use those arms. Either they have good fire discipline or they are bluffing.

JaimeRoberto said...

I wonder if the writer was a true observer or if he was an instigator like John Sullivan. His story sure seems at odds with the story earlier this week in The Federalist. Maybe he was hanging out with the organized groups that the Federalist writer noticed, but which were only a small part of the crowd.

Rick said...

Lucid-Ideas said...
I've traveled to 30+ countries, and fought in 2. The left are going to miss it when it's gone.


Maybe. I used to work with a group from Pakistan. The wealthiest always wanted to go back because almost no level of income here could reproduce the lifestyle of the reasonably wealthy there. They wanted to live with 20 servants to take care of everything.

Disruption and chaos increases the wealth gap by reducing alternate opportunities. This makes tangible lifestyle improvements available to the elites.

Shouting Thomas said...

The only way to avert the war toward which we are headed is for both sides to admit their mistakes.

I made a mistake in thinking that a non-politician outsider could successfully take control of the federal bureaucracy. This is not a policy mistake. It’s a realpolitik mistake, and that kind of mistake counts, too. Big time.

Trump made a mistake in calling this rally. I’d been telling supporters that for weeks before. Without regard to the validity of the election or Trump’s allegations, he’d run out of options. Nothing good could possibly come out of that rally.

He got snookered by the Democrats and the press as a result of calling that rally.

Leland said...

Why do keep posting the lies from the New yorker. does althouse Still think they are telling the truth?

If you are asking the questions "Why", you are signaling your ignorance, so then don't assume she's gullible. She provided this post without comment, thus no opinion.

I don't really want to defend Althouse posts nor thought process (listen to her podcast for the process). But it is tiring reading stupid comments wondering why Althouse provides news from news sources. I don't like the news sources either.

On the other hand, other people do read them and believe them. I can choose to be ignorant and wonder why anyone would believe Trump caused an insurrection; or I can let Althouse pay for this news and provide it to us, so we know the propaganda others are reading. She's also allowing you to form your own opinion about it. That's why I read her and not the media.

Earnest Prole said...

Play stupid revolution-cosplay games, win stupid revolution-cosplay prizes.

trumpintroublenow said...

“If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant.

Trumpism must and will be defeated and squashed like a bug by people of good will, Democrats and Republicans, who care about the ideals and promise that make the United States a beacon of liberty around the world.

If it's war you want, it's war you'll get. Don't underestimate the resolve and strength of those on the side of truth and decency.

Chennaul said...

Politics is pure physics. For every action you get an equal and/or opposite reaction.

This event on the Capitol did not happen in a vacuum. What was blasting on media and getting results was Black Lives Matter and antifa week after week terrorizing ordinary citizens and small businesses— across the nation. Remember the scenes of antifa demanding black power salutes from ordinary citizens? That looked a lot more like the Lethario Schwarzenegger’s Kristallnacht.

The DNC at their convention spent days honoring Black Lives Matter and showing the protests on big movie screens as heroes to America on their televisions. I had people from overseas calling me up and saying you have to vote for Biden or there will be a war in your country. That’s what it looked like to some non-Americans.

Now The Right— a significant amount of Americans— does not have too many places to be heard. That is a recipe for disaster—and The Left seems to want to invite it. You don’t compare current events to Pearl Harbor unless you want the event to actually— in hindsight— rise to that level.

You can see the chilling effect on Twitter already among the conservatives left there. Liberals unchecked who are grabbing more power and pushing voices of opposition underground are driving the country towards even more chaos because they will not be counterbalanced through ordinary means— they are trying to ensure that.

NYC JournoList said...

If you take enough quotes out of context are you committing incitement? As a reporter I see what is happening here.

daskol said...

Another writer with a scruffy beard to distract from a retreating hairline.

Hey now, no need to get nasty just because you don't like my purple prose.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

We keep hearing from the hack press "5 people died! Insurrection!"
How was the Antifa take over of the police stations in Portland not an insurrection?
What are the details on the deaths at the Capitol? why is the one Antifa guy being paraded around like he was embedded royalty - when he was talking to other Antifas and committing actual vandalism and violence?
We know Ashli was murdered - Trump supporter - un-amred.
WE know a cop was murdered - he was pro-Trump. Happy coincidence.
The others?

meanwhile at the BS impeachment - one congress critter kept inciting violence bay calling the president a "White Supremacist"
THAT IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF INCITING VIOLENCE.

Qwinn said...

No one, not even me in my fullest paranoia, understood just how utterly the DC bureaucracy had been infiltrated. Based on the behavior of the FBI, and the utter lack of a single whistle-blower to their crimes, it looks like they are infiltrated down to the night janitor. Not a single man left there who would recognize allegiance to their country over allegiance to the leftist project. That the media, even the "Republican" media, spent a LOT of effort pimping the notion that "there are tons of good agents in the FBI's lower ranks" is revealed for the propaganda that it was. I wouldn't trust the FBI to change a light bulb. And that such total infiltration and political capture was successful even in the agency that should have been the most resistant to it proves that there isn't a single institution left that doesn't belong completely to the Left if they had any desire to capture it. There is not one mechanism in place in any of them to offer the slightest resistance to it.

YoungHegelian said...

If the article is trying to claim that there were groups on the mall on 1/6/2021 with long guns, I very, very much doubt that. The authorities, both District & Federal, would freak the hell out if there were groups armed with long guns on the Mall near the Capitol and Congress in session. If that had been the case, much heavier law enforcement would have been brought to bear. To bolster my case, the authorities are now claiming that they expect "armed groups" and there are two freakin' divisions of NG in town.

It also bolsters my case that the reporter is making shit up that, if the mob was armed, why were the few shots that were fired during the melee come from the Capitol Police?

Sorry. Not passing the smell test.

Lucid-Ideas said...

@Rick

I was referring to the rest of the world's never-ending balkanization (as in the Balkans...an apt comparison) and tribalism.

Plus there are offsets. My wife is from a well-to-do family in Brazil that can afford some of the nice things you describe that can't be gotten in the USA cheap, but other things have to be paid for...

...like a security guard for the house (in Brazil, anyone with a moderately nice home hires private security when they're not physically in it).

...and high fortification-like compound walls.

...and avoiding vast areas of your hometown.

...and consistent political violence, sometimes over idiocy like football (soccer).

Elite people in shithole countries most definitely pay for the privilege of living with filth and unpredicability...coming to a neighborhood near you.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

The evidence of election ballot stuffing was obvious - and made plain as day by the various ignored by the press - hearings. They were compelling to say the least.
Trump was banned from proper legal counsel and now he is banned from everything - because he dared ask questions.
We all wanted answers and we still do.
I hope there is still an investigation into possible election fraud. If no fraud - what does the left have to hide? Why all the destruction of ballots and envelop[es and other evidence? We must made sure voter integrity is restored.. or this nation is lost.
Big media and Tech hid The Biden family international grifting machine.

Shouting Thomas said...

Well, now that I’ve stated Trump’s realpolitik mistakes, I will say that Trump is the one who represents goodwill, truth and decency.

That’s obvious.

Here’s where the other side needs to admit their mistakes and back off.

Stop the anti-bigotry crusade. The U.S. is the fairest, least bigoted society in human history. Phrasing every issue as a bigotry issue is a terrible, vicious, stupid thing to do. More than anything else, I voted for Trump to send this message to you.

If you continue down this path, bloodshed is inevitable. Stop the anti-bigotry campaign, now.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Political language is intended to incite people to action (though not neccesarily violence). That's why the Left wants to have a monopoly on incendiary language.

hombre said...

Mogelson’s fiction is still appearing in the New Yorker.

Personally, I prefer accounts from non-journolistas who describe what they saw, not what they extrapolated from the past.

Where were the “arms” among the “armed” demonstrators referenced by Queen Nan? Why did riot police use flashbangs, gas, etc., on the densely packed center of the crowd where retreat was impossible instead of at the front to stop the confrontation? Who were all those masked young guys in black with MAGA hats on backwards? Why did Capitol Police invite some protestors into the building? When did Trump people ever behave like this? Etc. Etc.

Ray - SoCal said...

A positive is the capital protest is it tore off even more masks off the elite / uni party / big tech showing their fascists tendencies, and showing a lot of Vichy GOP.

It’s too soon to see if the cost was too high.

Tommy Duncan said...

The New Yorker knows its audience.

Rick said...

Lucid-Ideas said...
I was referring to the rest of the world's never-ending balkanization (as in the Balkans...an apt comparison) and tribalism.


Balkanization and chaos go hand in hand. But even if you separate them the left clearly supports balkanization - that's the entire goal of identity politics. In a society not at war the left provides no value since they have no skills other than developing reasons why some people should hate others.

William said...

Remember when the press was reporting on the Tea Party demonstrations. These were some of the dullest people to ever walk the face of the earth, but those good reporters saw them as being sinister and irrational. Well, their prayers of the media have finally been answered. Some flagrant, flaming assholes showed up for a Republican event and committed acts of mayhem. Bliss it was in that dawn to be alive. The media always knew that those Trump supporters were just waiting for the chance to strip off their clothes, paint themselves blue, and murder Dems in their offices. And it's all Trump's fault. Many of the reporters on MSNBC are surreptitiously masturbating while they report on the impeachment proceedings. Unlike Toobin, they keep things out of sight, but those blissful expressions that register on their faces is the giveaway......I have no objections to those who took part in this riot being punished harshly, but the contrast to the way with which these jerks are being treated in comparison to those far more numerous left wing loonies is indeed stark.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

Here in Pelosi's Banana Republic -
Collective media democrat industrial complex can collude and lie about how Russia Stole the election from rightful owner Hillary - and stole it all for Trump with some crappy facebook ads.
And with that the collective left were able to spread lies about Russian collusion for years on end. Dumb false god Mueller - couldn't put the Maddow pieces together.

All actual non-stop partisan harassment.
non-stop.
Then we move to impeaching Trump over Biden's ACTUAL CRIMES.
HERE IN PELOSI'S BANANA REPUBLIC.

Next bit of toxic PELOSI THEATER WILL be impeaching Trump after he is gone. but please - don't think of it as inciting violence.

Readering said...

Here's where I come to read almost exclusively the takes of those who still don't get it a week later. The 29% assembled by AA.

Qwinn said...

I was in DC on the 6th. I was among a sea of people.

I did not see a single weapon. Neither did my wife or nephew.

Shouting Thomas said...

Trump made a mistake in calling this rally. I’d been telling supporters that for weeks before. Without regard to the validity of the election or Trump’s allegations, he’d run out of options. Nothing good could possibly have come out of that rally.

He got snookered by the Democrats and the press as a result of calling that rally.

Vance said...

Since the left is rerunning Germany, circa 1934 or so, it's time for Joe Biden to start worrying. Well past time, actually.

Adolf Hitler took over from decrepit old General Hindenburg, a nice guy who was senile and no longer in charge. And never, ever let power go again, even though he took it legally.

Now we have senile, decrepit old Joe Biden, and ambitious power hungry leftists all around. And 26,000 troops in DC, all apparently sworn to protect Joe Biden. All it will take is someone to off him rather soon after he takes the oath and blame Republicans and Trump, and there's 26,000 troops right there to arrest every Republican in town, and what army will stop them? Kamala Harris in charge with an army and total "righteous vindication" to go after anyone who is not a Democrat. Think the media would protest? Talk about the Reichstag fire. We already have BigTech stomping on any sort of social media protest.

I wonder what Readering would say to blatant dictatorship like that. "Hurray!" As for Inga... she still regrets Steve Scalise didn't die, so she would gladly support Kamala Harris ordering the summary execution of every Republican who of course is "guilty" of poor old Joe Biden's mysterious death.

Readering said...

Fan fiction.

Readering said...

Qwinn your inability to see what is in front of your noses well documented here since November.

BUMBLE BEE said...

I have spent the last couple days scouring the pages for these alleged shock troops. There's people jamming through doors that look nothing like Trump people from the rallies. Rag tag nut jobs breaking windows and shouting. Bull horns? I've seen 'em at BLM and Antifa riots... nothing Trump. Local papers running AP stories about impending invasion of "body armored, armed and helmeted protestors" heretofore unseen at Trump rallies. Black girl shot in the leg by the above types 500 MILES AWAY! Karen Whitmer's National Guard body armored state politicians got her a position in the DNC elite. This hysteria is the successor to Coronavirus for sure. THE FEAR!. I googled R/V's Ranger Line and found 3 pages of coverage blaring the exact Same Headline but no such pictures - parroting KTLA. Freaking L.A. reporting hysterically about D.C. This century's version of the movie 1941. Remember? OOOOH Horrywood?

Readering said...

Shouting Thomas Trump enjoyed watching the assault on the Capitol as it happened. Mistake not anywhere near the way to describe the way Trump's mind works.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Readering... substantiate your claims.

BUMBLE BEE said...

https://andmagazine.com/talk/2021/01/13/the-reality-on-the-mall/

Shouting Thomas said...

@Readering

That’s a stupid assumption, and a commonly stupid manner of criticizing Trump.

You’ve got to be able to do better then that.

Trump is a good man who intended to benefit this country in every way possible. He made some very terrible mistakes, and I’ve outline them above.

Readering said...

Looking forward to someone writing the looming tower for the assault on the Capitol, setting out the ideological origins.

Howard said...

Your welcome

Rabel said...

Tin soldiers and Biden's coming
We're finally on our own

Music was way better for the last revolution.

Readering said...

Trump as good man is craziest take.

Shouting Thomas said...

The election was a fraud. Trump’s right about that.

Where he’s wrong is in failing to give up when he’d run out of legal options.

The fraud was multi-dimensional, ranging from unconstitutional fucking around with election laws, the psy-ops campaign of the shutdowns, the Democrats campaign of street warfare, etc.

My criticism of Trump is that he has probably wasted the political capital he had remaining, which was his ability to run again in 2024.

Readering said...

I litigated against him in the eighties. He was a bad man then and remains so.

Mikey NTH said...

I recognize this type of writing, the sluggish style and purple prose of the frustrated freshman lit major.

"It was a dark and stormy administration. Suddenly a Trump rang out."

Readering said...

Election as fraud marks one as delusional.

Shouting Thomas said...

Trump as good man is craziest take.

Rendering, I thought you were a competent lawyer.

This asshole act you’re doing now is a symptom of incompetence.

Believe me, I’ve worked with the best lawyers, guys you’ve read about in the law journals and newspapers.

Your behavior in this regard is infantile, and suggests incompetence.

walter said...

Shaman guy could have made a killing at parties.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

The rally was peaceful.
What happened at the capitol was not. Why were the doors open? If the FBI heard chatter about potential violence at the Capitol - why didn't they do something?

Who died? nancy? no -the deaths were probably ALL Trump supporters.

Shouting Thomas said...

Election as fraud marks one as delusional.

An election in which one side’s (Democrat’s) paramilitary forces is waging war in our city’s streets is a fraud on the face of it.

There’s really no answer to this that you can offer, Readering.

If you can defend this use of paramilitary forces to intimidate the electorate, you’re the one who has serious, disturbing moral problems.

Or else, you’re just a fucking thug.

Inga said...

“Trump as good man is craziest take.”

How is it even possible for people to still believe in the goodness of this man? It’s astounding. After all that has transpired.

walter said...
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Readering said...

More fan fiction. When playing church organ, listen to the service sometimes.

Shouting Thomas said...

And, I’ll spell this out for you, since the opposition has been trying to pretend otherwise.

Antifa and BLM are the paramilitary forces of the Democratic Party.

The Democrats created, organized, funded and control these forces.

Readering said...

More racist delusion. You have spelled it out enough. Got it the first time.

Shouting Thomas said...

It was at church that I got an insider glimpse of how the Democrats control and fund their paramilitary forces.

I stopped servicing an Episcopal church (which is an auxiliary wing of the Democratic Party) because it was funding the riots and looting in NYC.

walter said...

Counting that goes stop in the night..with an eerie sense of inexorability.

Shouting Thomas said...

How did racism get in there, you evil stupid bastard?

This tactic, I’m telling you stupid fucking moron, is going to lead to insane violence.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

Someone should hang a big sign over the White House:

COMING SOON: TRADER JOES.

or Traitor Joes.

(OK - someone sent me the image. good idea)

Shouting Thomas said...

Tell me, you stupid fucking rotten jackass, how you detoured into racism.

Shouting Thomas said...

Inga, you’re evil.

You’re the one with serious moral problems.

You spent years on this board repeating and amplifying the Russia collusion hoax.

You’re last person I’d look to for moral guidance.

You’re utterly vicious, gullible and damned nasty.

BUMBLE BEE said...

the readering gazette... He means to kidnap, restrain, perhaps try, perhaps execute members of the U.S. government,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Jay Weimer said of retired Lt. Col. Larry Rendall Brock Jr. without providing specifics. Ah journalism, we hardly knew ye.

Qwinn said...

Rendering and Inga know full well there was massive election fraud.

They're just complicit. And they will never stop gaslighting in furtherance of helping their masters get away with it.

They are simply trolls, and should he ignored every bit as thoroughly as C****.

jim said...

Qwinn, on inauguration day let's all wear our super hero costumes.

Shouting Thomas said...

I don’t think Readering and Inga do know that and that’s the problem.

This trotting out of their paramilitary forces Democrats do in the run up to elections, in order to intimidate and to try to motivate black voters, is something they feel entitled to and they’ve somehow justified to themselves.

They don’t recognize it for the electoral terrorism that it is.

Lurker21 said...

Mogulson's latest five New Yorker articles alternate between sympathetic portrayals of Antifa and BLM and scare articles about Trump supporters and lockdown protestors. Before that he wrote some articles from Afghanistan and, yes, published short fiction in the magazine.

It sounds like he seeks out informants who will tell him what he wants to hear about the groups he writes about. Reportage isn't what it used to be. You start with the conclusion and then go looking for "evidence" to back it up. Start with a different conclusion and you find different "evidence" to support it, with "reality" never really breaking through the propaganda.

RichAndSceptical said...

The best I can come up with is "What a load of BS".

The truth will come out. Were some Trump supporters involved? Yes, maybe 100 involved in violence out of a million. Maybe 300 or so actually went inside the Capitol.

Like the Democrats always say, "It was a peaceful demonstration".
100/1 million - .01%

300/1 million = .03%

If that's the best Trump can do, he can't lead the revolution.

trumpintroublenow said...

"Bull horns? I've seen 'em at BLM and Antifa riots... nothing Trump."

Chansley is a QAnon believing die-hard Trump supporter.

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2021/images/01/15/5-main.pdf

readering said...

A million!!!

readering said...

Turning BLM into paramilitary organization, that's how.

Jim at said...

Once again, if we on the right were half as violent as the left accuses us of being, there would be thousands and thousands of dead bodies. Yet .....

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

It's the New Yorker who thinks the country ends at the Hudson River. Fake news.

William said...

I think Trump is overweight, given to braggadocio and bombast, and cheated on his wives. I still voted for him. His policies over the past four years were demonstrably successful. I thought he was a better choice than Biden. I don't think Biden is demented, but he is addled and way too old for the office he holds.....I don't know how much election fraud there was, but I'm sure it happened. I think it would be fair and prudent for the Democrats to enact reforms so as to eliminate or minimize claims of fraud....What about my beliefs and voting records is irrational or seditious?

Readering said...

Defending your vote for Trump in light of events after election day strikes me as irrational.

hstad said...

Just more propoganda piece from the MSM in this case "The New Yorker". Can hardly find anything on the BLM/Anti-Fa led violence in DC from the MSM. Yet, now the 'Conservative Media' is finding real evidence of a strategy by BLM/Anti-Fa of hijacking the DC rally. FBI had warned the DC police ahead of this strategy for the protest. Commentators, we are being fed only data which supports one narrative - scary for our Republic. This will not end well for our country's future. Our Republic can only survive if the MSM keeps its 'bargain' with the American voters that they will equally stand against both Democratic and Republican 'Elites' and powerful private narratives like those emanating from Facebook, Google or Twitter. Hopefully, now that President Trump is leaving and not available as the obvious punching bag, the MSM will get back to their 'bargain' in our society.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

@April Apple/Dickin' Babes/BleachBit/BidenCrackPipe or whatever you're calling yourself this week.


This one's for you!

And you're gonna love it!

William said...

Lenin was shot and nearly killed by Fanny Kaplan. Kaplan was a member of the Social Revolutionary Party. She had been imprisoned in the Czar's jails for attempting to assassinate a czarist official. She had been set free during the revolution. Lenin expressed regret at having to execute such a principled person. He did, however, take the opportunity of this attempted assassination to order the summary execution of several thousand White Russian prisoners being held in the Peter and Paul fortress and did so without regret.....People are using the Reichstag fire as a reference point. I think the summary execution of all those held in the Peter and Paul fortress is a better example of how the leftist mind works while under threat.

walter said...

They've done an admiral job juicing Joe's brain for his limited windows of appearance.
Just keep the lid tight and his "addled" state can be managed..for a while.
It's awesome that he's throwing dollars at vaccine distribution while states hamper it with their own incompetence. $$$$ will fix it!
The struggling service sector will love $15/hr minimum wage as they dig out from lock-downs.
Build Back Batter!
Yummy!

Francisco D said...

Do you have a job Readering?

Patrick said...

Inga & Shouting Thomas: Ever heard of Twitter?

Jim at said...

If it's war you want, it's war you'll get. Don't underestimate the resolve and strength of those on the side of truth and decency.

Then make your best move, sport.

Patrick said...

CWI said...Funny. This jibes with John Sullivan's reported actions, right down to the hat. Hmm.

It's almost verbatim.

Inga said...

“Inga & Shouting Thomas: Ever heard of Twitter?”

Why are you including me in this comment? I’ve had no interactions here with ST. Maybe you should be addressing him alone, don’t include me.

Skeptical Voter said...

Ah inga is promising that those folks who voted for Trump won't get away this time. Justice is coming!

Why is it that I picture Inga in S&M black leather gear on the cover of a pulp novel with the title "She Wolf Of The Re-education Camps". I just don't know whether she's going to employed at Camp AOC-Schumer on the East Coast or Camp Pelosi on the West Coast.

walter said...

Sullivan in an Uber commercial...

Balfegor said...

Since then, Trump and his allies had done everything they could to spread and intensify this bitter aggrievement.

Did the New Yorker publish pieces saying this sort of thing about . . well, news media, civil service, etc. in 2017? Or BLM, Antifa, etc. any time between the Ferguson riots in 2014 (set off, incidentally, by the "hands up don't shoot" lie uncritically spread about by the media) and the present?

Obviously, the question is rhetorical. But this stuff is like the surprised Pikachu meme come to life. What did people think was going to happen? That "bitter aggrievement" and violence were going to remain all on their side? Wasn't it Russ Feingold who famously said "The game's not over until we win" during one of those failed recalls in Wisconsin? That's Trump's attitude start to finish.

None of the actors in this play are even pretending to care about neutral principles any more.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

Skeptical Voter - she's too old and saggy for that. You'll find her legging up for cellulite night at Flossy Jim's beer hall and bowling alley.
but she does dream of re-education camps. You can take the old gal outta Germany, but you can't take the Germany out of the old gal.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

North of...

you found me.
eh. I'm aware of the Antifa infiltrator who has a history of being where the violent action is. Based on past arrests- Mr. Sullivan comes in close proximity to murders-at-riots.

He and the media are making excuses for him. You suppose he was there all alone? Nope. Mr. Sullivan is talking to people.. his gang of Antifas who were "filming" and breaking things and egging it all on.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Patrick said...

Inga & Shouting Thomas: Ever heard of Twitter?

I've thought about telling them to get a room, myself.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

North of...

you found me.
eh. I'm aware of the Antifa infiltrator who has a history of being where the violent action is. Based on past arrests- Mr. Sullivan comes in close proximity to murders-at-riots.

He and the media are making excuses for him. You suppose he was there all alone? Nope. Mr. Sullivan is talking to people.. his gang of Antifas who were "filming" and breaking things and egging it all on.


I just thought you'd enjoy the "I just shit my pants....again!" look on his face.

JaimeRoberto said...

Inga & Shouting Thomas: Ever heard of Twitter?

Personally I think they should get a room.

Inga said...

“Patrick said...

Inga & Shouting Thomas: Ever heard of Twitter?

I've thought about telling them to get a room, myself.”

Why? I’ve had no interactions or any back and forths with ST.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

North of...

Do we think the corrupt FBI will do anything to him? or follow up on his Antifa ties, his pals who were there, and why he was there impersonating Trump supporters?

Nah. Not in Banana Republic of Nancy.

Bill said...

I hope free college is mandated and professors are required by law to teach for free, and the college endowments are used to repay student loans.

JaimeRoberto said...

Why? I’ve had no interactions or any back and forths with ST.

Maybe I'm confusing him with Drago. You can invite him too. I won't kink shame.

Daddy Binx said...

Inga said...
...
Looks like they want to fight a war even if it’s over pretend fraud perpetrated by a con man.


"pretend fraud"? Wouldn't that make it NOT a fraud?

Asking for a friend.

Inga said...

“...pretend fraud"?”


Trump is pretending there has been massive voter fraud. Hence “pretend” fraud.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

bullshit.
The left and their media alliance are pretending vote fraud didn't occur.

but 4 years of 'Russia stole the election from it's rightful owner - and Tulsi and Jill Stein are Russian agents' - perfectly sane!
Who needs her some re-education camp? Igma!

Readering said...

Pretend! We have DOJ and state governments and dozens of courts on our side. You are spewing internet nonsense following evil POTUS.

Readering said...

Also DHS.

Readering said...

Also all virtually all election law experts.

Skippy Tisdale said...

It's at once both amazing and shocking that the Left is so openly hoping for violence.

Elliott A said...

Come senators, congressmen

Please heed the call

Don’t stand in the doorway

Don’t block up the hall

For he that gets hurt

Will be he who has stalled

There’s a battle outside and it is ragin’

It’ll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls

For the times they are a-changin’

Words by Bob Dylan

Prescient, no?

Skippy Tisdale said...

Is that why Bill Gates is buying up all the farmland?

If I had his wealth, that's what I'd be buying.

Tim said...

Widespread fraud in the election, ignored by the media and the establishment, and the US about to have a usurper in the White House. I am not really opposed to an insurrection at this point.

Skippy Tisdale said...

Howard said...
What brand of spleef you smoking, Crack? It seems quite paranoic


Do you ever stop pooping?

Inga said...

One guy says...
“It's at once both amazing and shocking that the Left is so openly hoping for violence.”

Then another guy says...
“I am not really opposed to an insurrection at this point.”

Mark said...

Why the hell do you bother with this POS bile?

Skippy Tisdale said...

I am not sure how that works.

Me neither. I tried it with someone just now by right-clicking on their avatar and choosing "Block Element", but all it did was bloc the avatar.

Help?

MikeD said...

While clutching her pearls Althouse seems to have forgotten a true capital invasion/occupation with death threats, even tho' she blogged it in real time!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/14/democrats-were-occupying-capitols-before-they-were-against-it/

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