January 15, 2021

"Federal prosecutors offered an ominous new assessment of last week’s siege... saying in a court filing that rioters intended 'to capture and assassinate elected officials.'..."

"The detention memo, written by Justice Department lawyers in Arizona, goes into greater detail about the FBI’s investigation into [Jacob] Chansley, revealing that he left a note for Pence warning that 'it’s only a matter of time, justice is coming.' 'Strong evidence, including Chansley’s own words and actions at the Capitol, supports that the intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States government,' prosecutors wrote.... 'When questioned as to the meaning of that statement, Chansley went on a lengthy diatribe describing current and past United States political leaders as infiltrators, specifically naming Vice President Mike Pence, former President Barack Obama, former Senator Hillary Clinton and U.S. President-elect Joe Biden as infiltrators involved in various types of wrongdoing,' prosecutors wrote. 'Although he stated his note was not a threat, the Government strongly disagrees.' The prosecutors’ assessment comes as prosecutors and federal agents have begun bringing more serious charges tied to violence at the Capitol.... In Chansley’s case, prosecutors said the charges 'involve active participation in an insurrection attempting to violently overthrow the United States government,' and warned that 'the insurrection is still in progress' as law enforcement prepares for more demonstrations in Washington and state capitals...."

From "'Strong evidence' suggests Capitol rioters intended to ‘capture and assassinate’ officials, US prosecutors say" (Fox News). Chansley is the rioter who's getting extra attention because he costumed himself in a fur hat and horns. He also, as the detention memo says, "has spoken openly about his belief that he is an alien, a higher being, and he is here on Earth to ascend to another reality."

131 comments:

BADuBois said...

"...has spoken openly about his belief that he is an alien, a higher being, and he is here on Earth to ascend to another reality."

Sounds like a matter for ICE, not the FBI.

mikee said...

What were the intentions of any other rioters in the US in the past 12 months?
1. Economic justice via looted reparations. Or looting.
2. Destruction of federal state and local government buildings and the people in them.
3. Anarcho-communist exclusive territorial acquisition.

All 3 resulted in injury and death. Can I hear a "Whatabout" cheer?

Matt Sablan said...

Yeah. This whacko gets to speak for all Trump supporters now.

If these people had wanted to get at Congresspeople, they would have. Remember: The Capitol police let rioters get to Congresspeople when they threatening Kavanaugh's life and his congressional supporters.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

So capture and hold ground, like Chaz? Is this too wrong now? How weird. Has the AK-47 wielding rapper in Portland been arrested?

Matt Sablan said...

Now, I don't doubt there are other whackos in the mob who would have gone for it, because mobs do that. But, I'm not ready to let a broad brush be used against every protester, even those who didn't enter the Capitol or engage in violence, when we, as a country, have never allowed that broad of a brush to be used in other riots.

daskol said...

OK, if you couldn't laugh at impeachment, please find the humor in Animal-skin shaman man leading the insurrection. They think we're all very stupid, and that their control over the information apparatus gives them the ability to conjure reality. And yet, this is the narrative our discourse-creating elite puts forth.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Seems like pretty thin gruel.
And at some point the plural "rioters" turned into a single individual with apparent mental health issues. Chansley has only actually been charged with "knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, and violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds."
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/534363-man-known-as-qanon-shaman-asks-trump-for-pardon-after-storming-capitol

mccullough said...

He’s the John Brown of MAGA.

Nonapod said...

I don't doubt that this whack job may had grand plans of a glorious bloody revolution, but a lone idiot does not an insurrection make. You have to have far more evidence involving far more people to declare this to be a failed coup.

Iman said...

The lawbreakers should be identified, arrested, tried and punished if found guilty. Identify the person that shot and killed Ashli Babbitt. An honest and thorough review to determine why DC and the federal government were unprepared for the protest and who the planners were.

For starters...

Kai Akker said...

--- Chansley went on a lengthy diatribe describing current and past United States political leaders as infiltrators, specifically naming Vice President Mike Pence, former President Barack Obama, former Senator Hillary Clinton and U.S. President-elect Joe Biden as infiltrators involved in various types of wrongdoing,' prosecutors wrote.

Why did they omit his mention of Soupy Sales, Tonya Harding, and the clown with the scissors?

Freeman Hunt said...

The case for calling it an insurrection seems weak if the main person they can point to is someone who is clearly mentally ill.

daskol said...

He’s the John Brown of MAGA.

Let's write him a song. I'm sure someone can improve on this.

Mine eyes have seen the glory
Of the coming of this nut;
He is trampling out the vintage
Where the DOJ tut-tuts;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning
Of His terrible B O;
His truth is marching on.

Clayton Hennesey said...

"But this Mandalorian character – who knows where his loyalties lie? And, as everyone knows, he can wreak destruction like no other. One simply cannot be too careful.

Add in probably indisputable evidence from FBI Director Wray’s sources that Mando will also be bringing with him a coven of Russian prostitutes to urinate on President-elect Joe Biden’s bed"

https://www.aleksandreia.com/2021/01/14/washington-d-c-is-expecting-the-mandalorian/

The Crack Emcee said...

"He is an alien, a higher being, and he is here on Earth to ascend to another reality."

THAt'S AMERICA.

roesch/voltaire said...

This might have something to do with the claim: a line of men wearing olive-drab helmets and body armor trudged purposefully up the marble stairs in a single-file line, each man holding the jacket collar of the one ahead.

The formation, known as “Ranger File,” is standard operating procedure for a combat team that is “stacking up” to breach a building — instantly recognizable to any U.S. soldier or Marine who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Now why would peaceful protesters need to do that?

Matt Sablan said...

The same reason peaceful protesters attacked the White House, burned down various cities, nearly burned down a police station with people inside, and ransacked court houses.

Because not everyone there is part of the peaceful protest.

Virgil Hilts said...

The John Brown stuff is interesting. I was just reading something yesterday (here?) about how the North's treatment and celebration of John Brown - who the South saw as a madman and murderer - helped to make the Civil War inevitable.

Matt Sablan said...

Also, this isn't ominous or new. It has been one of the theories floated since before the riot even happened that people would try and kill Congress people. It's one of the many reasons people are floored by how poorly defended the place was. Hell, people should have been fearing for an attack on Congress for YEARS since the Kavanaugh protesters admitted they'd have used violence to breach the Capitol if they hadn't been peacefully let in. We've known people wanted to violently attack Congress since someone unloaded on a Congressional baseball team and another tried to kill Rand Paul. There's nothing new in this report, except a crazy person agreed with them that some other protesters besides the usual suspects had signed up for political violence.

Freeman Hunt said...

I suppose a mentally ill person could lead an actual insurrection, but is there evidence that people were following this guy? Did he attempt to kidnap or assault anyone? (Maybe he did. I don't know.)

MikeR said...

"Strong evidence." Jeepers.

Mikey NTH said...

Charge everything you can find and then use those as bargaining pieces for a plea. A common tactic for prosecutors, I believe.

Of course, this is a memo (if I got this right) so it may be more of an internal document for discussion purposes leaked to get a reaction, perhaps to get this guy to plead now or to scare others into surrendering. Anyway, it is still too early to call what the final score will be.

Merny11 said...

I don’t know RV - why would peaceful protesters need to loot? Burn? Spray paint? Tear down? Beat observers and innocent bystanders?
Be bailed out but Kamala Harris? Oh wait though; that was all MOSTLY PEACEFUL!

iowan2 said...

Bernie Sanders is guilty of inserection for instigating the assassination attempt of Rep Steve Scalise and the rest to the Republicans present for an early morning baseball practice.

We are going to have standards or not.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

He also, as the detention memo says, "has spoken openly about his belief that he is an alien, a higher being, and he is here on Earth to ascend to another reality."

Let's help him move on.

CWJ said...

"He’s the John Brown of MAGA."

What? Not my John Brown. Though clearly these particular federal prosecutors are straining to paint him as such.

I nominate James Hodgkinson instead. And by the new standard, anyone who supported Bernie Sanders.

Birches said...

Haha. They think the crazy guy was going to assassinate people? He wasn't even armed, was he?

Poor crazy guy is getting the Flynn treatment.

Anga2010 said...

That it was planned in advance rules out them having been incited by Trump's speech.

/s It was mostly peaceful in any case.

PM said...

Every day, a black homeless person across from my office stands in front of a shop window and screams at herself and the world. God help her poor soul, but only an ass would say See, that's how black people are.

Virgil Hilts said...

Here is is (I think) re John Brown - https://www.theministryofhistory.co.uk/historical-biographies/johnbrownabolitionist

AZ Bob said...

Some domestic terrorists are more equal than others.

Owen said...

daskol @ 10:31: Not bad songwriting there. What struck me about Chansley is that he appears to be playing a role in a higher-dimensional screenplay cooked up by some stoned writers trying to get the Coen Brothers to produce their breakthrough story about The New America. Of course, the country has an ample supply of nut jobs and some of them are drawn to public turmoil as moths to the flame.. But as others have said, are we to generalize from a Chansley? From the "stacked grim hard men in green" claimed by roesch/voltaire as the representatives of all those who went to the rally, who voted for Trump, who once thought about voting for him, who fail now to applaud Biden with enough enthusiasm?

Yes, Chansley is nuts. But so too are many of the accusers now rushing to lynch all the Deplorables.

Gusty Winds said...

The FBI arrested ANTIFA activist and agitator John Sullivan last night for his role at the Capitol. This was after he appeared as an expert witness to the events on CNN's Anderson Cooper.

NOTHING here is as it seems or as we are being told.

From the linked article:

TOOELE COUNTY, Utah — Utah activist John Sullivan was taken into custody in Provo Thursday, over a week after he shared video of himself inside the U.S. Capitol as protesters breached security.
Sullivan, 26, was charged in federal court with:
• One count of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority
• One count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds
• One count of interfering with law enforcement engaged in the lawful performance of their official duties incident to and during the commission of civil disorder

The arrest document states Sullivan can be seen outside the Capitol building using a microphone as he told the crowd “we about to burn this s___ down,” “we got to rip Trump out of office... f_______ pull him out of that shit... we ain’t waiting until the next election... we about to go get that m__________.”
While in the Capitol, Sullivan was wearing a ballistics vest and gas mask

Mike Sylwester said...

Did Chansley say he intended to capture and assassinate elected officials?

mockturtle said...

The false flag Reighstag fire, as has been alluded to here several times, did achieve what Hitler intended and it appears to be working for the Swamp, as well. So be it.

BTW, we won't have to wear yellow stars or red 'A's on our clothing as identifications. Stanford U has found that it's possible to identify one's political ideology by facial recognition technology. Facial Recognition Technology can reveal political orientation.

Matt Sablan said...

Oh? They FINALLY arrested the guy who admitted to being part of the mob that broke in? Glad that happened. Only took them forever. People they had to investigate and search for got arrested faster than the guy who proudly proclaimed he was leading the riot to burn the place down in his video.

iowan2 said...

This is the leftist exact same MO as Charlottesville.

Invade a peaceful rally start violence, and try to lay the blame off. Successful because propaganda media lead the lie.

Everybody is ignoring Obama hiring Robert Creamer to recruit thugs to disrupt political gatherings. That is the evidence of planning inserection. Also ignoring Obama spied on the Trump campaign and transition.

The Crack Emcee said...

"'Strong evidence' suggests Capitol rioters intended to ‘capture and assassinate’ officials, US prosecutors say"

"'Strong evidence' also suggests y'all ain't doing shit about shit.

mandrewa said...

It's just lie after lie after lie.

Is there any thing like a truth-seeker on the left? Is there any self-criticism? There must be, but it seems to be so rare. When you have no center, no real personal integrity, I suppose you get this kind of thinking. But I'm just astonished again and again that so many people are like this -- and that this spirit is what dominates our government and universities.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

I mentioned this in another thread.

My friend (someone I work with in my line of work) and his partner (not love partner-work partner) traveled to DC to show their support. (I am purposefully being respectful of their privacy.)
He told me he wanted to go to DC a few weeks back, but then said he wasn't going to go. so I thought he didn't go. I spoke to him yesterday afternoon at length and he told me HE DID go. They flew into Baltimore and stayed there - then drove to DC.

Anyway - his account - and he took footage with his phone - was the rally itself was very peaceful and large. A large crowd of Trump supporters waiting for Trump. AS they waited they sang patriotic songs in unison like "God Bless America", etc..

He said after Trump's speech, they did walk to the capitol, and it was clam... until they arrived at the Capitol - that's when he said it got weird. Noted the crowd sort of changed. All of a sudden there where people with bullhorns, gas masks, and shields. He thought immediately they didn't seem like real Trump supporters.

Anyway - they left after they heard broken glass. I'll have to ask him about the tear gas because he mentioned something about that as well, but I forgot what he said.

Lyle said...

Federal lawyers like their performance art too, I guess.

daskol said...

The John Brown stuff is interesting. I was just reading something yesterday (here?) about how the North's treatment and celebration of John Brown - who the South saw as a madman and murderer - helped to make the Civil War inevitable.

It's not a fitting John Brown-like tribute to the shaman unless we can work in the hanging of Joe Biden--the original lyrics to John Brown's Body are both weird, and violent.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

evidence suggests the FBI knew about the chatter.
DID NOTHING.

Howard said...

It's still early days. Very foggy indeed. Rumors of reconnaissance tours, Antifa infiltration, Ranger File and threats of assassination have not been verified. It's much easier to wait until it gets sorted out.

That said, there were some very serious looking guys, perhaps experienced operators, in addition to the clowns and fatties that broke into the Capitol.

Ice Nine said...

When you want to get the truth of the matter, always go to the guy wearing animal skins and buffalo horn bonnet who thinks that he's an alien higher being who is on Earth to ascend to another reality. That's in the DOJ manual somewhere, isn't it?

Howard said...

AprilCrackPipe: By letting the guys breach the Capitol and burn off adrenaline, fewer deaths occurred. Also, the combo of having the breach be successful followed by social media bans causing folks to jump to new platforms has been a treasure trove of op sec intel for the main event coming up. Not saying it was planned that way, but there you are.

Real American said...

there might have a been a few serious people who wanted to do something like that (neo-nazi or antifa types or zip-tie guy), but there was hardly a coordinated effort among the mob. there were a few instigators and then the mob rushed in. There needs to be a serious investigation of the instigators. Clearly they had intent prior to the rally and may not have even been there.

Mike Sylwester said...

The US Justice Department and FBI also charged Russia's Concord Management company for using the Internet to meddle in the USA's 2016 Presidential election.

Concord Management hired a US law firm and subjected itself to a trial in the USA.

Shortly before the trial began, however, the US Justice Department dropped the charges, because it had no evidence at all.

That is the very same US Justice Department that now is accusing Chansley.

mandrewa said...

Tim Pool: CNN SLAMMED After Far Leftist Capitol Rioter Hosted As if He's A Journalist, 20k Troops Called To DC

iowan2 said...

Thanks Mike Sylvester.

When leftist repeat the talking point about all the indictments, they alway ignore the fact lots of those were indictments of Russian persons and entities. The day that speech was made I said it was worthless because Mueller was never going to have to defend his work. I loved the day Mueller asked the judge for a continuance. The judge said the prosecution had never asked for a continuance, because the indictment was the prep work for trial.

Yes the FBI assertion of nation wide threat of violence is just like the interview of Flynn, Based on political posturing.

The Department of Justice, is just as corrupt. It will take more than an year before these indictments start to fail because simple elements of a crime don't exist. I would also think equal protection could be used as a defense because of lack of charges this summer, for similar acts.

Titus said...

I think the shaman is hot. Nice body and tats.

Static Ping said...

I agree with Matt Sablan. If there was a concrete plan to kill members of Congress, there would be dead, or at least wounded, members of Congress. Given how close Antifa could get to members of Congress during their riots, it would not be difficult to pick a few of them off in a well prepared scheme. Also, see Steve Scalise.

Given the revelations of corruption over the past 4+ years, the DOJ no longer gets the benefit of the doubt. Put up or shut up. This seems closer to "shut up." They don't have much so this will have to do. On the plus side, at least it is stronger evidence than the "pee tapes."

Oh well.

daskol said...

I think the shaman is hot. Nice body and tats.

And I like his style. This is another reason, besides the fact that he's obviously nuts, that he's a terrible choice to scare us all about the serious, scary Trump insurrectionists.

daskol said...

Where can we donate to his legal defense fund? Or to get an autograph?

SteveSc said...

ok, now do BLM and Antifa.

Big Mike said...

When the federal prosecutors' "strong evidence" apparently consists of a lunatic running around bare-chested in January and wearing a (fake?) buffalo hat like the Native Americans used to wear, I'd say you have hardly any evidence.

Curious George said...

"Titus said...
I think the shaman is hot. Nice body and tats."

I'm sure both will come in handy in prison.

Ken B said...

I don’t like the wording. There might be strong evidence that some rioters intended that. I find that entirely plausible. But some of them were doubtless just swept up in the flow of craziness. The latter didn’t intend murder.

Analogy. There is strong evidence Ch*ck wants to harm this blog. But it would be wrong to say “the chuckleheads want to harm this blog” since Pants and Big Mike have no such intent.

MayBee said...

You know who should be investigated for instigating riots?

Benjamin Crump. How many riots and burned buildings have happened based on his lies? (Hands up don't shoot, Jacob Blake was unarmed, Trayvon Martin was left in the morgue unidentified for 3 days")

walter said...

The guy is clearly horny too, Titus.
Just, you know, be careful.

walter said...

For further insight, seek out Michael Yon's interpretation.

Cassandra said...

So... mostly peaceful (and unarmed!), but with a smaller number of agitators who had an agenda that was both violent and unlawful? Was the horned dude armed? If not, how was he planning on assassinating anyone? Goring them with his headdress, perhaps?

Gosh. Where have we heard this one before? Oh yeah... 93% peaceful. But different logic applies here, clearly.

jeremyabrams said...

Anyone who conspired to murder a representative should be tried for attempted murder. But I don't see why our representatives should be better protected than Portland shopkeepers. We are a nation of laws, not of men and women.

StephenFearby said...

"Chansley... has spoken openly about his belief...he is here on Earth to ascend to another reality."

Hoist by his own petard to a prison psych ward.

walter said...

He was there and was then and via video identifying multiple cells, agent provocateurs.

walter said...

Of course, the most well known AP was a guest on AC360.
This is CNN.

gilbar said...

If THAT was their intent, they Sure Did a Lousy job of it

rhhardin said...

Threat theater.

rhhardin said...

Who is the audience for the threat theater?

Somebody who believes them, or wants to believe them, say as entertainment.

Sebastian said...

"he is an alien, a higher being"

Forget Trump. How are we ever going to protect ourselves against an insurrection by evil empires from outer space?

chuck said...

I am not amused. Next.

Leland said...

The US Justice Department and FBI also charged Russia's Concord Management company for using the Internet to meddle in the USA's 2016 Presidential election.

Concord Management hired a US law firm and subjected itself to a trial in the USA.

Shortly before the trial began, however, the US Justice Department dropped the charges, because it had no evidence at all.


They had evidence. $100,000 in ad buys on Facebook. The problem is the evidence showed ad buys for BLM including operation of a Facebook community with 224,000 followers. Obviously that didn't fit the FBI narrative that Russian was colluding with Trump; so they dumped the case hoping the evidence wouldn't get out. Congress, while still controlled by Republicans in both chambers, released the evidence.

People should study that evidence from 2018, that was withheld from the public by the FBI and social media, while they read reports of the "evidence" available today.

rcocean said...

John Sullivan just arrested by the FBI is a Leftwing BLM activist.

just remember the FBI said Antifa didn't exist, despite riots that went on for weeks, killed 60 people and destroyed millions in property. Portland was under siege for weeks, 2 square miles of Seattle were "occupied".

Forget all the blather about "Plans" and "They said...". No Senator/Congressman was injured or attacked. No senator/Congressman staffer at the Capital Hill protest was injured or attacked. 2 Policeman received medical treatment. One died, but we don't know how or why.

Ashli Babbitt, an unarmed protester, was murdered in cold blood by the Capital Hill police. One other protester died in the building, from a "medical emergency".

rcocean said...

Other than a few broken windows and doors, and a stolen Lectern that's it folks! that's all the insurrection was about.

Yet, the press, the democrats, and the DC republicans screech hysterically and call names. Its all Bullshit. These same people, including Althouse's favorite Biden, said NOTHING about the BLM/Antifa riots.

We're all being Gas-lit. Its Charlottesville all over again. On steroids.

rcocean said...

THe press has become so hysterial, lying and partisan. Its no longer NEWS. Anymore then the FBI is a credible law enforcement agency. 40 FBI agents to investigate a "Noose" at a NASCAR rally. Hundreds tracking down honest American citizens who walked into the Capital Building and committed no crime. Yet, AWOL on the BLM/Antifa protests that killed over 60, and cause tens of millions in damage!

Does anyone remember when Biden, the media, and others LAUGHED about "Trump cowering in the basement" when a mob tried to break into the White House? Or when they sneered when Hawley's house was mobbed or Rand Paul was mobbed and threatened?

How stupid do you have to be, to believe any of this and take its seriously?

rcocean said...

Just keep repeating.

200,000 Trump DC protesters. 200 in the Capital Building. 2 Policeman injured. 0 Congressman/Senators threatened or injured.

That's the situation in a nutshell.

JK Brown said...

I wish the Department of Justice prosecutors and the FBI had more credibility, but the last four years has laid bare that they cannot be taken at their word, especially outside a court of law, but also in sworn testimony. They'll have the opportunity to present evidence, but right now this is more like grooming the jury pool.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

mccullough said...

He’s the John Brown of MAGA.

Well in the sense that both had half-baked plans that weren't going to accomplish anything, yes.

Dave Begley said...

Why didn't the FBI undertake a similar effort to arrest BLM people last Summer?

DavidUW said...

Hah. FBI.

What a joke.

Unconstitutional federal police force says what?

Go back to spying on politicians.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

"'Strong evidence' suggests Capitol rioters intended to ‘capture and assassinate’ officials, US prosecutors say"

I call "BS". because if 20+ armed people had shown up at Capitol Hill to assassinate lawmakers, there would be a bunch of shot lawmakers.

You show up, you shoot all the cops in your path, you keep on going until you're in the chambers, then you start shooting anyone there, assuming you're going to get a bunch of politicians and their staff.

5 attackers might have been stopped, but there would have been a high death toll. Because the police don't just start shooting any protesters, and the 5 attackers would have just started shooting any police in their way.

This story is utter garbage

JaimeRoberto said...

When I saw the headline I assumed it would be about Flexicuff Guy not Buffalo Guy. If the FBI thinks Buffalo Guy was leading an insurrection, they really are incompetent.

Known Unknown said...

Why would anyone automatically trust the government reporting stuff that happens to them?

Ambrose said...

".... has spoken openly about his belief that he is an alien, ..."

Democrats: "See, we told you Trump should have built a wall."

Gospace said...

Greg The Class Traitor said...
"'Strong evidence' suggests Capitol rioters intended to ‘capture and assassinate’ officials, US prosecutors say"

I call "BS". because if 20+ armed people had shown up at Capitol Hill to assassinate lawmakers, there would be a bunch of shot lawmakers.

You show up, you shoot all the cops in your path, you keep on going until you're in the chambers, then you start shooting anyone there, assuming you're going to get a bunch of politicians and their staff.

5 attackers might have been stopped, but there would have been a high death toll. Because the police don't just start shooting any protesters, and the 5 attackers would have just started shooting any police in their way.

This story is utter garbage


I started reading the comment from bottom to top to see what I could add. Nothing- Greg hit it on the head.

Rusty said...

Just some prog. hyperbole to rile up the little lambs.

Rabel said...

"...has spoken openly about his belief that he is an alien, a higher being, and he is here on Earth to ascend to another reality."

I'd believe that before I'd believe anything the FBI has to say about the matter.

hombre said...

The smear goes on. One nutbag speaks for several hundred thousand demonstrators? Seriously? As the Democrat Deep State continues the fine lefty tradition of putting straw men into play.

TwoAndAHalfCents said...

Let’s take a moment to enjoy this from that article: ‘former Senator Hillary Clinton’. Only a senator.
At this point Censorship may be unavoidable, but no matter what people do or say, they can’t take 2016 away.

Chris of Rights said...

So, more and more this sounds pre-planned.

Yet, Trump's speech, the day of the riot, incited them.

Was there a DeLorean and a white-haired scientist involved?

Greg The Class Traitor said...

roesch/voltaire said...
This might have something to do with the claim: a line of men wearing olive-drab helmets and body armor trudged purposefully up the marble stairs in a single-file line, each man holding the jacket collar of the one ahead.

The formation, known as “Ranger File,” is standard operating procedure for a combat team that is “stacking up” to breach a building — instantly recognizable to any U.S. soldier or Marine who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Now why would peaceful protesters need to do that?


So r/v, what did they do? Who did they attack? Where are all the people these attackers attacked? Shot? Killed?

There aren't any?

More garbage.

DanTheMan said...

The FBI is now just the paramilitary wing of the Democratic party.

Rusty said...

"So r/v, what did they do? Who did they attack? Where are all the people these attackers attacked? Shot? Killed?

There aren't any?

More garbage."
He's only alive when he's on the verge of panic. He does this to himself.

Clyde said...

Sun Tzu remains relevant as always.

The Vault Dweller said...

Despite the scary headline in the article if you read the actual memo in support of detention, here is what American Patriot Shaman is actually charged with,

Chansley is charged with two felonies: committing an act of civil disorder that
obstructed the conduct of a federally-protected function, and obstructing an official
proceeding.


Makes you wonder why if the US Government believes there is "Strong Evidence" that he was plotting to kidnap and assassinate government officials they didn't bother indicting him for that. I feel badly for the lawyer who was assigned to write this memo. It must feel pretty awful to have to write bullshit arguments that are ridiculous stretches of law and reality. If you have the time I urge you to read the actual included Memo, which the article appears to be based on. It is 18 pages but not too long. The facts that they go over make it seem like American Patriot Shaman at worst was engaged in a Diet version of a riot. The two felonies he is charged with are literally based on him criminally trespassing in an area where he was not supposed to be which disrupted a federal proceeding, (there seem to be facts to support this), and when a Capitol Hill police officer asked him to use his bullhorn (the electronic megaphone type not his head attire), to ask the crowd inside the building to disperse and leave he did not do so.

RichAndSceptical said...

To quote Deputy Barney Fife "I think he's a nut".

Rabel said...

Each of those charges carries a sentence of up to 10 years.

The Vault Dweller said...

I also enjoyed how the Attorney for the US tried to make a big deal about how American Patriot Shaman, utilized "Untraceable" travel methods in the past. The "Untraceable" travel method was literally him getting in a car with some people and driving from Arizona to DC.

CWJ said...

Rabel @ 1:02 wins the thread.

ASG said...

It’s already been mentioned, but if that were the plan the result would have been different. I heard one guy had zip ties. Was the plan to zip tie them to death?

The Vault Dweller said...

It is worth noting that the Pre-Trial Services, a part of the Federal Court system, recommended that the American Patriot Shaman be released conditionally. The US attorney objected and wanted him detained during pendency of the proceedings. So another headline of article could be United States Court Officials See No Significant Risk of Flight or Danger in "Shaman" Arrested at DC Riots.

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

The FBI heard chatter... and let it happen.

You can trust the FBI.

daskol said...

Maybe the guy from pre-trial services shops at WholeFoods and knows what this will cost us.

Mark said...

FBI
DOJ

Yeah, two trustworthy organizations. Not enough to simply state their case, they need to load on all the paranoia.

Who are the crazies?

Mark said...

Tell me when they tell us:

Who killed the unarmed Ashli Babbitt?

Tyrone Slothrop said...

Who killed Ashli Babbitt? Certainly this is known. Certainly it is a matter of public record. Who killed her? What investigative steps are being taken by the Capitol Police, by the DOJ Civil Rights Division? Officer Sicknick likely died of natural causes and he's being lauded as a martyr. Unarmed Ashli Babbitt was shot to death under color of law and her death is ignored. Give us the facts, or there is no justice. Who am I kidding? There is no justice.

PJ57 said...

Whate were they going to assasinate them with? Zip ties?

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Tyrone Slothrop said... [hush]​[hide comment]

Who killed Ashli Babbitt? Certainly this is known. Certainly it is a matter of public record. Who killed her? What investigative steps are being taken by the Capitol Police, by the DOJ Civil Rights Division?



They are working on a way to justify it. The excuses so far have been pretty weak. They must find something in her behavior to make her seem dangerous.

Not only do we know that, the trolls here know it also.

My opinion is best thing would be to tell the truth. The shooter panicked. With all the riots and cops being beat and attacked, they never fired a shot.
With any cop shooting a bad guy getting the full doxxing and villianization treatment from media, no way a cool, calm and collected professional going to shoot a woman.

Pretending she might have a concealed weapon doesn't work.

Gojuplyr831@gmail.com said...

"There's strong evidence" said with a serious voice and furrowed brow. The spokesperson also said not to worry "we have top people working on it. Top people."

Doodad said...

Oh bullshit. This hyperbole is ruinous.

Krumhorn said...

This has been a spectacularly successful political operation by the lefties. In every respect, they have achieved beyond their wildest dreams. A remarkable demonstration of political jiu jitsu.

- Krumhorn

Big Mike said...

I've just read that the DoJ has walked back this claim, which always was preposterous.

Mark said...

"we have top people working on it. Top people."

That's right. And they are going to put the name in the same safe place - buried deep in some warehouse.

Night said...

A few paranoid schizophrenics make this threat every day. what is their population? Horn guy seems like a mental case to me. For the DOJ/FBI to work off of an insurrection angle implies to me they are dishonest. Put horn guy in a Mexican sanatorium and analyze him. Soviet style.

Blog us back the report.

Night said...

RichAndSceptical said...
To quote Deputy Barney Fife "I think he's a nut".

** This is the key political and law enforcement dynamic at work here. All Q people are potential Barney Fifes if they can get a LEO job. Apparently many of them work their way up to FBI and DOJ leadership positions.

Mark said...

That's why I couldn't find the quote.

It's "top men."

GingerBeer said...

"No 'direct evidence' of plot to kidnap or kill lawmakers in U.S. Capitol attack: Justice Department official" If it's being reported by CNN and Reuters the narrative has changed.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-capitol-plot/no-direct-evidence-of-plot-to-kidnap-or-kill-lawmakers-in-us-capitol-attack-justice-department-official-idUSKBN29K2FL

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/capitol-capture-assassinate-elected-officials/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2021-01-15T22%3A53%3A05&utm_medium=social&utm_term=image

max said...

I will believe there is a serious investigation when they find the guy whose actions led directly to the death of Ashli Babbitt. The guy who made no attempt to hide his face. The guy who seemed to be invisible to law enforcement around him. The guy who was allowed to descend a narrow stair case beside tactical law enforcement immediately after the shooting of Ashli Babbitt. Who changed his clothes and escaped the building unremarked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nvqvvsqJ_s

Mark said...

the guy whose actions led directly to the death of Ashli Babbitt

That would be the shooter. Whose only ID is that he is law enforcement.

Thuglawlibrarian said...

Yeah, sure.

Thuglawlibrarian said...

Yeah, sure.

Ray - SoCal said...

Prosecutors over charge as a way to plea bargain down.

Their is no negative for them to overcharge due to prosecutional immunity.

Which is why the Feds have a 92% conviction rate.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/11/only-2-of-federal-criminal-defendants-go-to-trial-and-most-who-do-are-found-guilty/

And Leftists want the word insurrection, coup, etc used.

urpower said...

The highlighted claim has already been retracted. Althouse is the new home for hoaxes. An incredible fall.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/capitol-capture-assassinate-elected-officials/index.html

Lewis Wetzel said...

The more dangerous and widespread the plot is made to appear, the worse the FBI & capitol police look for being caught by it on the wrong foot.

Ray - SoCal said...

I just saw an electronic billboards in my area, east of Los Angeles asking for information on the capital violence with an 800 number.

Unbelievable!

Amadeus 48 said...

I guess Alhouse didn't get the update. Per CNN:

Prosecutors in the case of Jacob Anthony Chansley, the man captured in viral images wearing a horned fur headdress and carrying a spear, have formally requested the court strike a line from a recent filing where prosecutors assert that "strong evidence" exists showing "the intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States Government," CNN reported.

Goldenpause said...

In other news, prosecutors try (and overstate) their case in the press. The rules designed to prevent this are rarely enforced.

Unknown said...

U.S. prosecutors. That’s funny

DEEBEE said...

And this really ominous threat was taken with a yawn by the Capitol police, if, at all, it was raised in advance

jg said...

More bloody leftist phantasy.