August 27, 2020

"How Chaos in Kenosha Is Already Swaying Some Voters in Wisconsin/As residents see fires and looting, some worry that local Democratic leaders are failing to keep control of the situation."

A headline in the NYT.
In Kenosha County, where the president won by fewer than 250 votes in 2016, those who already supported Mr. Trump said in interviews that the events of the past few days have simply reinforced their conviction that he is the man for the job. But some voters who were less sure of their choice said the chaos in their city and the inability of elected leaders to stop it were currently nudging them toward the Republicans.

And some Democrats, nervous about condemning the looting because they said they understood the rage behind it, worried that what was happening in their town might backfire and aid the president’s re-election prospects.
Are they "nervous about condemning the looting because... they understood the rage behind it" or are they nervous about condemning the looting because they're afraid of the social and economic consequences of speaking out against the looting? The NYT includes the words "they said" — "nervous because... they said they understood" — but was that because we don't know whether they really do understand the rage or is it because we don't whether they're giving an accurate account about why they are holding back from "condemning the looting"? I suspect it's the former, because the NYT is otherwise downplaying the disorder: Why is it just saying "the looting"? How about the arson and other violence? Is the NYT nervous about mentioning the arson because it understands the rage?
Ellen Ferwerda, who owns an antique furniture store downtown just blocks from the worst of the destruction that is now closed, said that she was desperate for Mr. Trump to lose in November but that she had “huge concern” the unrest in her town could help him win. She added that local Democratic leaders seemed hesitant to condemn the mayhem.

“I think they just don’t know what to say,” she said. “People are afraid to take a stance either way, but I do think it’s strange they’re all being so quiet. Our mayor has disappeared. It’s like, ‘Where is he?’”
Maybe stop referring to them as "Democratic leaders." Maybe try something like "Democratic shrinkers" or — if you're nervous about condemning them because you understand their reticence — "Democratic nice people."
On Tuesday afternoon, Ms. Ferwerda was writing “Black Lives Matter” on her storefront in red paint. On Wednesday, after the fatal shooting the night before, she said she was most worried about the people from out of town who were driving around with powerful guns claiming to keep the peace.

She said she understood the looting and burning.

“I think the rage is justified,” she said. “Anyone who is paying attention should know it was going to explode at some point.”
It is not normal to stand back and allow crime to ravage your home because you understand why the criminals are angry. It is an extraordinary response to violence! Ms. Ferwerda is one of the shopkeepers! She "owns an antique furniture store downtown just blocks from the worst of the destruction that is now closed" — to quote the weirdly edited sentence. I assume "just blocks from the worst of the destruction" was dropped in belatedly. I wish "the worst of the destruction" were "now closed"!
[John Geraghty, a 41-year-old worker in a tractor factory], a former Marine, said he was disturbed to see his town looking like “a war zone,” and he feared that the Democrats in charge were “letting people down big time.”

Politics for him had long been like a sport he did not follow. In his late 20s, he voted for Barack Obama, the first vote of his life. He did not vote in 2016, and he called the president’s handling of the coronavirus “laughable.”

Mr. Geraghty said he disliked how Mr. Trump talked but said the Democratic Party’s vision for governing seemed limited to attacking him and calling him a racist, a charge being leveled so constantly that it was having the effect of alienating, instead of persuading, people. And the idea that Democrats alone were morally pure on race annoyed him.

“The Democratic agenda to me right now is America is systematically racist and evil and the only people who can fix it are Democrats,” he said. “That’s the vibe I get.”
How can it work to rebrand America as a thoroughly racist and evil?! Who will buy that brand and how crazy are the Democrats to try to sell it?!
Mr. Geraghty said he understood peaceful protesting but felt frustrated with Democratic leaders who seem afraid of confronting crowds when things turn violent.
Exactly!
He was angry at the statement by Gov. Tony Evers on Sunday, which in his view took sides against the police in a knee-jerk way that worsened the situation. On Tuesday, Mr. Evers, a Democrat, did condemn the looting and fires, while reiterating protesters’ rights to assemble....
Evers is in the position to protect us from the violence and disorder. It is not enough to condemn it! Not if you want the leadership position. Let Evers resign if he can't or won't do his job. He's not up for election this year, but who would vote for him if he were?
Mr. Biden on Wednesday denounced systemic racism and police brutality as he also sharply condemned the destruction and violence unfolding in Kenosha.
"Denounced" is not enough. What would you do?  What action do you support? How can you protect the people who are being victimized?
“As I said after George Floyd’s murder, protesting brutality is a right and absolutely necessary,” Mr. Biden said. “Burning down communities is not protest, it’s needless violence. Violence that endangers lives. Violence that guts businesses, and shutters businesses, that serve the community. That’s wrong.”
So woefully inadequate. No glimmer of an idea of what to do. He's like the nice lady who owns the antique shop downtown. Good for you, but that's not leadership.
Meanwhile, President Trump promised on Twitter to restore “LAW AND ORDER” in Kenosha by sending in troops. “We will NOT stand for looting, arson, violence, and lawlessness on American streets,” Mr. Trump wrote.... 
Don Biehn, 62, owner of a flooring company, was standing in line at a gun store on Tuesday afternoon. He said that he had never bought a pistol before, but that he had a business to protect.
Yeah, well, unfortunately, you can't protect your business by using a gun. You can have a gun, and you can open-carry it without a license in Wisconsin, but you can't use the gun unless the threat of serious violence is to a person. Your buying the gun is really only an expression of dissatisfaction with the message the city has given you about the police: They will not protect you.
“There’s people running all over with guns — it’s like some Wild West town,” Mr. Biehn said. “We are just waiting here like sitting ducks waiting to get picked off.” He added: “It’s chaos — everybody is afraid.” Mr. Trump, he said, “was not my man,” but now he is grateful he is president. He said [Trump] seemed to understand in a way that other politicians did not.
“There’s nobody fighting back,” he said. “Nobody is paying attention to what’s going on.”

Scott Haight, who was boarding up a line of businesses in a Kenosha strip mall on Tuesday, said he blamed Lt. Gov. Mandela Barnes, a Democrat, for what he said was irresponsibly stirring up emotion. (On Monday, Mr. Barnes said the shooting “wasn’t an accident.”) “It’s like ‘What, are you trying to burn our city down?’” Mr. Haight said.
Haight told the NYT he just wasn't going to vote. Who knows what he will actually do? Voting is secret. I suspect there are lots more Trump voters than the ones who are willing to talk about.

The article ends with a quote from a waitress at a pizza restaurant, who said,  "I’m not the one who would ever vote" but "I am going to vote for Trump. He seems to be more about the American people and what we need." There are no comments on this article, but if there were, someone would probably paraphrase "the American people and what we need" in a manner quite unsympathetic to the waitress.

175 comments:

Kevin said...

We’ve seen this movie before.

The Dems will always have been at war with Eastasia.

And the media will suddenly go 24/7 on “Trump’s hurricane”.

donald said...

Got bad news fer ya Ellen. He just won you fucking moron.

Kevin said...
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AllenS said...

And some Democrats, nervous about condemning the looting because they said they understood the rage behind it, worried that what was happening in their town might backfire and aid the president’s re-election prospects.

Well, Democrat voters, do you really want the status quo that is presently not in charge of your safety to be returned to office? Don't you think that the leadership should change for your own personal safety? How's the Evers governor thing working out for ya?

tim in vermont said...

"Ms. Ferwerda was writing “Black Lives Matter” on her storefront in red paint.”

This sounds a lot like being forced to perform the Heil White Left salute in a restaurant.

Matt Sablan said...

Isn't knowing the rage behind it kind of the same as knowing the consequences of condemning burning the city?

The Bergall said...

I never saw the connection (sic)..............

Thistlerose said...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-we-know-so-far-about-wisconsin-shooting-of-jacob-blake/ar-BB18pzJZ?li=BBnb7Kz

Not a word about him having a warrant out for raping a 14 year old or that he had fought with police previously and they needed to use a K-9 unit to subdue him.

I guess those facts aren't important. They don't fit the narrative.

rehajm said...

You can have a gun, and you can open-carry it without a license in Wisconsin, but you can't use the gun unless the threat of serious violence is to a person.

Fact check: You can use the gun but the law says its use in that situation is unlawful.

mezzrow said...

"The Troubles"

When violence visits your world, you will choose "overbearing" over "inadequate" to respond to the threat. The rioters are demonstrating that now, and the voters will demonstrate that soon enough.

If we have an election, that is. It is becoming as hard to visualize as the debate.

Interesting times.

Heartless Aztec said...

The killing time approaches.

gilbar said...

Why is it just saying "the looting"? How about the arson and other violence?

oh Come Now!
it is Specifically stated in The Constitution, that arson and other violence are Free Speech,
Protected by the 1st amendment. Arson isn't like white silence; which IS violence

Marcus Bressler said...

The libs/Dems are waking up. Some of them. Others are dead.

THEOLDMAN

Keep it up. Disturb my lunch by harassing me into raising my fist and I will, right into your stomach and as you double over, I will hit you with a left cross in the mouth. You will be fortunate not to be kicked while you are on the ground. And if any of your mealy-mouthed white asswipes try to attack me, they will be on their way to the hospital with gunshot wounds. I'd say this was a warning, but these libs are too stupid to realize it's a deadly game they are playing.

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The Crack Emcee said...

"Who will buy that brand and how crazy are the Democrats to try to sell it?!"

I've traveled and most of the world buys that brand now - I have to explain American white people to others.

I realize you're all concerned about an election, but I'm just concerned with reality, and white Americans as evil racists is obvious to most people on the planet by now.

The Crack Emcee said...

They just won't tell YOU - for obvious reasons.

tim in vermont said...

It has swayed my vote. I was seriously not even going to register at my new address in Florida, where I will be headed after Labor Day. Now I will vote for Trump. Not sure about voting for anybody else.

The Crack Emcee said...

"Some worry that local Democratic leaders are failing to keep control of the situation."

The suggestion they COULD keep control of it is funny. I seriously doubt anyone's consulting them.

cacimbo said...

The business owners would be crazy to admit to voting for Trump - that would be equivalent to getting in line to have your business burnt next. Just like how CHOP business owners denied being shook down for protection money and then weeks later the truth came out.The antiques shop owner feels she needs to plaster BLM across the front of her store in red paint for protection. She didn't do that until her store was in the danger zone - so who knows what she REALLY believes.

Derek Kite said...

Where are these democrats getting their information? You can't trust what activists tell you. You can't trust what you read or hear in the media. You can't trust that forums and social media will reflect the opinion of the majority of people who aren't there.

Are the events and consequences in Portland, Seattle and Minneapolis not common knowledge?

tim in vermont said...

I would rather vote for people who pander to those with a child-like fear of masks, which is almost innocent in its stupidity, than those who pander to violent protesters who give zero shits about anybody and have happened on the perfect pretext for their violent urges.

What a fucking world.

Rory said...

"...felt frustrated with Democratic leaders who seem afraid of confronting crowds when things turn violent."

Again, the doctrine of nonviolent resistance (per Gandhi) is that when your peaceful movement is coopted by violence, you cease activity and go home. Our leftists don't know this, because their ideology has been laundered through our universities, which aren't interested in teaching whole philosophies anymore.

tim in vermont said...

The ex wife and I still talk a lot, and the ascendency of the reds in the Democratic Party has pushed her to voting for a man she sees as vile, and that man ain’t Joe Biden thought you could be forgiven for thinking so. What the riots show is that they are serious about the rest of their agenda and give zero fucks about the damage it will cause.

The Crack Emcee said...

mezzrow said...

"When violence visits your world, you will choose "overbearing" over "inadequate" to respond to the threat."

Oh bullshit - you guys are so lame and all sound alike: my house took a bullet the same week I moved in. Two white guys were out joy riding and shooting up shit. I did not go out and buy a gun. I did not become a paranoid. I did not do anything of any kind and nothing else happened and y'all need to get a grip.

I said this on another thread when we were talking about home invasions. I didn't need a gun for, or after that either.

The "problem" - which your Wisconsin store owner understands but Ann (bless her heart) does not - is whites made generations of Americans poor and desperate and cooped-up the bad with the good, so fuck all y'all for wanting to keep it that way when you know your ancestors were fucks, even if you don't think you are.

You're cop-outs. Except for Meade. Meade's alright.

Laslo Spatula said...

"...worried that what was happening in their town might backfire..."

In other words, the rioting is fine until there is a political price to be paid.

Johnny Rotten: ever get the feeling you've been cheated? etc etc

I am Laslo.

Wilson Carroll said...

Sicking thing is, this won't end with the federal elections this year. It'll continue until the next round of state elections when people can vote out the feckless Democratic cowards and enablers spurring on the violence.

Crimso said...

For a mature adult with a properly functioning brain, it is quite easy to understand the reasons for bad acts and simultaneously condemn those bad acts.

stevew said...

They think if they appease the protesters by validating the protest and not condemning the violence that the violence will lessen or stop. They couldn't be more wrong, as we've seen over the past three months. The people doing this (the antique shop owner, the governor) sound like the sort of people that would respond to conciliation offers positively. The mistake they make is believing the protesters and violent folks are like them.

Trump and his supporters are the only ones acting to end the violence and restore order. He does so without commenting on the legitimacy of the issues the peaceful protesters are questioning. The equivocation by the Democrats, leadership, and Joe Biden reveal that their motivation is purely political.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

Met a friend for coffee and dessert the other night. Nice person, court reporter, married mother of one. Centrist swing voter who cast for Hillary last time because girl power. This time, paraphrased: “Trump is a complete sleazeball who makes me want to barf but he can manage a situation. The Democrats can’t competently do anything but call me a racist. Cities are burning and Joe Biden can’t even get in front of a camera without help - how is he going to lead? Hate it but I gotta vote for Trump this time.”

rehajm said...

Maybe stop referring to them as "Democratic leaders." Maybe try something like "Democratic shrinkers"

'Shrinkers' implies they are being reactionary. In fact many of them WANTED this. They ran for office to PRODUCE this. They've been coordinating with their supporters so this would happen at this moment in time. They've been planning this for YEARS.

wendybar said...

The Democrats won't even call out the riots and looting, instead calling them peaceful. WHY would anybody with any common sense vote for THAT??? The NBA can fall into the ocean and drift away for all I care. They are entitled overpaid brats who wouldn't make it in the real world. Let them boycott..just leave us alone.

Kate said...

Shorter Dems: We hate this destruction but if we complain we'll be called racists. It's a choice between watching my city burn and being one of the elect in the Church of Woke.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

The Democrats (and others) who are nervous about condemning the radical left, looting and crime sprees are afraid that the mob will turn on them. And they are right.

They cower before the rabid mob and kowtow to their demands....all the while throwing the rest of the public under the bus (so to speak).

Let the mob eat those others first, they think. Appease them. Then the ravening animals will be sated and "I" will be safe.

They think wrong. Just like the Jews in pre Nazi Germany who thought if they acceded to the demands they, themselves, would be safe. They are also wrong because if the ravening animals on the Left don't get them first....WE will for being such cowards and abetting all this chaos and pain.

Leland said...

I would rather vote for people who pander to those with a child-like fear of masks,

Go back to Vermont, you petty authoritarian. The people of Florida don't want socialist bullies like you demanding they cover up in public or be ridiculed. It's not a fear of mask, it is a love of freedom that you refuse to embrace. Florida doesn't want you. They want to live their lives without people like you insisting they conform to a behavior you prefer.

The Crack Emcee said...

Here it is, as nicely put as it can be, what y'all call "normal" - and you're waaay too comfortable living with - that nobody else does.

Birches said...

The redpilling continues.

rhhardin said...

The dems vote in lockstep with their funders' wishes, not to fulfill with wishes of women.

They only pander to women. That's not hard to do. Women want the first thing in sight and to hell with side effects.

The phrase women and children is there for a reason.

Jersey Fled said...

And Slo Joe remains silent in his basement in Delaware.

"This is what real leadership looks like"

Good one, Kamela.

rhhardin said...

Kowtowing is for giving in to Asians. Mobs aren't smart enough to follow the intricacies kowtowing.

Bay Area Guy said...

NYT Headline:

""How Chaos in Kenosha Is Already Swaying Some Voters in Wisconsin/As residents see fires and looting, some worry that local Democratic leaders are failing to keep control of the situation."

Fixed it for them:

"How Chaos in Kenosha Is Already Swaying Some Voters in Wisconsin/As residents see fires and looting, WE ,worry that local Democratic leaders are failing to keep control of the situation."

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Althouse It is not normal to stand back and allow crime to ravage your home because you understand why the criminals are angry. It is an extraordinary response to violence! Ms. Ferwerda is one of the shopkeepers

It is the feed the beast first mentality. If I let the beast eat everyone around me, perhaps I will not be eaten myself. Throw the others into the maw and appease the beast.

Trying to be friends with the sharks during their feeding frenzy. It doesn't work.

BamaBadgOR said...

Ann, very well said. Thank you.

Jamie said...

The (not-)funny thing is, what can Trump do, if local authorities continue to stonewall? Reelecting him wouldn't change out those local authorities, and he and the localities experiencing the violence would be in the same bind as they are now.

I suppose if he's reelected by a generous margin, if he has a real unequivocal mandate, then those local authorities might be able to say, "I see that voters in my district have communicated their priorities and in response I am requesting help from the federal government." But they'll be standing naked under lights at that time, since their voters are already communicating their priorities, and they're refusing the federal help that's offered.

It all goes back to the question asked in a thread a couple of days ago: who is the puppet master? Why are all these mayors and governors willing to risk - or sacrifice - their political reputations just to Get Trump?

Lefties, I'm asking sincerely. Is it the left-zeitgeist (or, if you prefer, "the horrible things he's done") alone that makes people hate Trump so much that they'll let their cities burn just to try to take him down? Or is someone or some group directing the action? I can see it either way,I suppose, but if it's just the zeitgeist, man, it moves fast.

Dave Begley said...

Evers should be recalled.

Biden can’t condemn the rioters because they are his voters.

rhhardin said...

American blacks have an average IQ of 86. That means that there's a lot of overlap with whites, especially in the smart direction. A white can grow up and never notice any racial difference, in the right schools.

But the stupid end is stupid to a degree policy leaders are not used to.

Go for good character, which does not depend on IQ, if you want a path to success.

John henry said...

Tim,

Can you point out to me who id "afraid" of mufflers? Or masks or face coverings or whatever you choose to call them.

Me, I believe the science showing that mufflers do no good.

Nobody, including you, has shown any science thst they do. Unless you can do that you should stfu. You are more than a bit tiresome on this.

Someone, don't know if it was you, said they would not do my research for me to prove masks do some good. you are the one making the claim. It is up to you to show some science supporting it.

John Henry

Gusty Winds said...

Evers has completely failed all of Wisconsin. His handlers are in charge. He’s just a beta cuck puppet sitting in the chair. Kenosha asks for 2000 National Guard troops. Evers up the amount to 500 without arrest authority. They’d better get a plan in place before the weekend. Evers won’t. We’ll see what Trump can do with the Federal help. Kenosha is in a lot of trouble. Oh, and fuck Madison for doing this to the rest of us. Morons.

Phil 314 said...

Have there been any actual, organized protests in Kenosha. They keep using that word but all the pictures are of fires and looting.

Is the word “protest” going the way of “racist”?

Amadeus 48 said...

The lady with the antique store needs to get a closer look at the problem. Maybe she'll understand the problem better when her store gets burned down.

The problem is that the Democratic governors and mayors are unwilling to call this activity what it is: arson and looting by a mob (personal responsibility dissolves in a mob). They and their lickspittles in the media want to hide behind the First Amendment--"These are peaceful protests, mostly!"--when in fact these are civil insurrections that should be suppressed by the police and the National Guard. Why do these "protests" occur at night? Who is it that turns out to burn their neighbors out? Why torch a used car dealership on Sheridan Road in Kenosha?

The difference between the way the Jacob Blake incident is described in the press and what you actually see in the videos is shocking. A Reuters story described him as an unarmed black man who was shot in the back in front of his children. Well, yes, but he also engaged in a brawl with police and threw three of them off, he probably had been tazed to no effect, he walked to his car ignoring police commands, he may have been carrying a knife in his hand, and he lunged into the car as if he were looking for something.

Was he armed? What was in the car? Why didn't he obey the cops? His wrap sheet is terrible. Did the police know that?

George Floyd was treated callously in Minneapolis, but he died of a fentanyl overdose. He wasn't murdered. People need to know the facts. The press is not giving them out.

These nightly riots are nihilistic to the point of being inane.

This behavior is described in Dostoevsky's Devils (also called "The Possessed") written in 1871. It is one of the great novels about revolutionary politics. He anticipated attitudes of the Russian Revolution by looking back at the behaviors of the French Revolution. The fecklessness of the liberals paved the way for the pathology of the revolutionaries.

Michael said...

Crack
“Oh bullshit - you guys are so lame and all sound alike: my house took a bullet the same week I moved in. Two white guys were out joy riding and shooting up shit.”

Did not happen.

Amadeus 48 said...

Crack--stop looking for a handout. You are better than that.

Gusty Winds said...

Democrats and the media tell us arson is peaceful. Property destruction is peaceful. Fuck you. It’s not, and we all know it. Go gaslight your own family. What cop is going to let a wanted sexual felon, wielding a knife, drive away with kids in the car? Really sick and twisted stuff being promoted by the left and their Madison, Wisconsin comrades. The rage from the left is NOT justified.

rhhardin said...

Toddlers are not smart but they're made small to limit the damage they can do.

Heartless Aztec said...

Go to You Tube. Search BBC Granada Spanish Civil War.

This is our future. The causes are different but the human reaction to the events will not be.

You WILL choose a side. Or several sides concurrently depending who is kicking down your to kill everyone inside.

Beyond frightening and coming to your neighborhood soon.

Jamie said...

because you understand why the criminals are angry

"Look what you made me do, you stupid bitch!" for some and "We only use nice words" for the rest.

Democrats, is this the society you want? If not, why on Earth do you keep supporting it? Have you never made the connection between cause and effect?

AllenS said...

I would like to see Trump say this, not only to Evers, but every Democrat gov that now wants Federal help: "I'll send help to your cities, after you resign, because you are nothing but a failure."

rhhardin said...

Always demand to see the noose, in any account of white supremacist intimidation.

doctrev said...

Joseph Rosenbaum, convicted pedophile. Served 12.5 years for sexual contact with a minor.

Gaige Grosskreutz, a convicted burglar who was illegally carrying a gun.

Anthony Huber, convicted domestic abuser. Convicted of multiple domestic abuse counts, ADW, battery, false imprisonment, and "strangulation and suffocation".

The upstanding citizens our young hero shot. Hell of a thing.

BADuBois said...

Sorry Dems, you own this, stem to stern,

Dr Weevil said...

gilbar (6:22am):
Tighten your slogan up a bit rhetorically, and you should be able to sell a whole lot of t-shirts. How about "My silence is violence, but your burning and looting is not? Really?" Something like that could be a very effective slogan.

Iman said...

Common sense is not so common among Democrat voters...

Hammond X. Gritzkofe said...

...but you can't use the gun unless the threat of serious violence is to a person.

Thank you. Many folks likely do not understand that point, a point well covered in CHL classes.

Also, the wisdom of avoiding dangerous situations - whether it be just getting up and walking out of a restaurant when a crowd of crazies walks in, or moving out of a town governed by crazies.

DavidUW said...

He should get a medal.

Amadeus 48 said...

By the way, by painting "Black Lives Matter" on her window, the lady with the antique store is re-enacting the role of the greengrocer in Vaclav Havel's The Power of the Powerless. She might as well go with "Workers of the world, unite!"

She needs instead to live her life in truth.

MayBee said...

This line from NYT is hilarious:
Mr. Biden on Wednesday denounced systemic racism and police brutality as he also sharply condemned the destruction and violence unfolding in Kenosha.

Biden didn't "sharply condemn" anything. But good job trying to punch up the statement he put out.

D.D. Driver said...

“I think the rage is justified,” she said.

Timothy McVeigh was also "protesting"--since I guess this word is now used quite broadly--horrific law enforcement killings.

Anyone want to tell me how "justified" his rage was?

Insanity.

Quaestor said...

Ellen Ferwerda, who owns an antique furniture store downtown...

Antique shops are like tack shops in that they frequently marginal earners operated as hobbyist enterprises by persons with a much more substantial primary income, e.g. the wife of a highly successful attorney or physician. Having such a business to operate helps ease the "empty nest" anxiety of the middle-aged suburban woman. Miss Ferwerda likely has no natural sympathy with small business owners who have their entire net worth invested in their livelihoods.

mikee said...

Here in Austin, the spray painted "Defund the APD" was changed into "Fund the APD", and back to Defund, then again FUND, then "F*CK APD, then FUND once more, before the concrete wall was painted a nice uniform gray, probably by the homeowner.

And up the street, someone else (i.e., not me, who did the above) painted a heart over the D & E of DEFUND the APD.

That, and the mounted police who broke up the last attempted riot, seems to have cooled the local kids.

Todd said...

he disliked how Mr. Trump talked but said the Democratic Party’s vision for governing seemed limited to attacking him and calling him a racist

This. Drill into actually why people dislike Trump, scrape away all the lies and you get to this. He doesn't ACT presidential. Look where acting presidential has gotten us. Look at the prior 8 years of acting presidential. I wish Trump would not tweet so much and that he gave more thought to what he says BUT he actually DOES most of the right things. The things that make THIS country better, stronger. He actually empowers people. I will take that over nicely creased pants every time.

Dr Weevil said...

Gusty Winds (7:21am):
There's one more reason the police couldn't let the guy into his car. Not only that he might have a gun in the car, not only that (as you say) you can't let a sex criminal drive away with kids in his car, even if they're his: The third reason is that the cops were all on foot, which means if he could get in the car and get it started he could very easily run over them. A car is a very effective weapon against pedestrians.

Quaestor said...

Crack--stop looking for a handout. You are better than that.

Evidence suggests he's not.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

The shirker in chief is Donald Trump. He’s the President. Nothing but talk for 3 months now, and his talk is not helping.

MadisonMan said...

There's a letter to the Editor in the morning paper today that roasts the Madison mayor's missing leadership. I think the same could be applied to Evers. (Link

donald said...

Look at the poor negro whining for his “reparations”.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

Do you see the great leadership vacuum yet? It’s so great that you’re angry that the Not President Joe Biden hasn’t done enough to fix this problem. For most Republicans the violence is just a TV show on Fox that doesn’t threaten them personally.

AllenS said...

Here is the best example of a president not acting presidential --

That means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

— President Obama, speech to the American Medical Association, June 15, 2009 (as the health-care law was being written.)

Jeff Brokaw said...

When your three year old gets angry because you enforce bedtime at 8pm, you understand why but you still enforce it.

Elected “leaders” are authorized to use force to preserve the peace for a reason, and we implicitly trust them to use good judgment in this area. That trust has been breached and I for one cannot ever trust any elected official at any level to protect my family, property, and therefore my future, ever again.

Every excuse offered by these “leaders” is ridiculous bullshit. They all need to be recalled or impeached.

Or, I guess we can always go back to armed mobs of vigilantes. Perhaps these bleeding hearts would prefer that.

Do the job or get out of the way and let someone with a spine do it. If you’re going to let mob rule drive your policies, we don’t really need you, do we?

mezzrow said...

The "problem" - which your Wisconsin store owner understands but Ann (bless her heart) does not - is whites made generations of Americans poor and desperate and cooped-up the bad with the good, so fuck all y'all for wanting to keep it that way when you know your ancestors were fucks, even if you don't think you are.

You're cop-outs. Except for Meade. Meade's alright.


everybody but White Americans - "Fuck all y'all"

White Americans - "Fuck all y'all, too!"

At that point, does it matter who fires the first shot?

How have y'all over there been doing to this point, Crack? Which way do you see this thing going? Who are these people from the rest of the world who are going to step in and save you from our racist white asses? You're right about Meade, but you're so fixated on OUR white delusions (yes, they are real) that it appears to be the only thing in your vision if you go on what's written here. Your position seems to me to be a recipe for hopelessness.

Only time will tell if we're both full of shit, which is the most likely answer.

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

The milwaukee bucks are refusing to play bouncy ball to protest “racial injustice”. they should stay in their lane; they are apes in a cage throwing a ball through a hoop for the amusement of paying spectators.

Birkel said...

"...needless violence..." -- Biden

I would like an explanation of what violence Biden thinks is needed.
And by Biden thinks I mean what his twitter producer types in his name.

I think violence in self defense is needed.
Offensive violence has no place in civil society.

Sebastian said...

"How can it work to rebrand America as a thoroughly racist and evil?! Who will buy that brand and how crazy are the Democrats to try to sell it?!"

Dems are gambling that there are enough minorities plus rich liberals plus self-hating nice white women, in enough states, to prevail. They are not crazy. They know that their lies and their destructive policies did not prevent Americans from voting Dem before. After all, the failure of Dem governance in most major cities has been obvious and, to coin a phrase, systemic, for decades -- without a bleat from the Dem sheep.

Anyway, the response of Dem "leaders" and the phrasing of the NYT laid bare by Althouse shows, as if proof were needed, that progs are associated with the violence. They are just trying to massage the perception to avoid a backlash. But they have no problem with the attempted revolution per se.

Of course, the prog echo chamber reinforces the ideological commitment. Witness prog commentary on the sports boycotts. Has anyone even attempted to question if they are justified at all?

Patrick said...

Doesn't the law allow for protection of property in such situations? I am thinking of the korean store owners during the LA riots and others in New Orleans after Katrina. Is this a state by state issue? What am I missing?

Birkel said...

Left Bank is angry that Trump is less of a Constitution-destroying dictator than Left Bank had hoped.

I want the mostly peaceful protestors in Cambridge to give Left Bank what he wants.

Breezy said...

What can the store owners do to get the security they have every reason to expect - sue the city? I'm amazed that there seems to be so little outcry from the actual looting/arson/rioting victims here.... Are these business owners storming city hall at all? Even if I were a left leaning business owner, I wouldn't put up with losing my livelihood! Its too bad they can't call the National Guard in themselves...

Oso Negro said...

I call upon the truly woke shopkeepers and business owners of America - BURN your stores now! This will show how much you truly care. And if the rest of the planet, minds aflame on leftist propaganda,are feeling so generous, let them organize boatlifts and airlifts to take the suffering negros of America to their multi-hued shores of peace and understanding.

Todd said...

Wilson Carroll said...

Sicking thing is, this won't end with the federal elections this year. It'll continue until the next round of state elections when people can vote out the feckless Democratic cowards and enablers spurring on the violence.

8/27/20, 6:49 AM


Sorry but what in the world gives you the idea they will do that? The sane "live outside the city" folks will try that but all the good little Democrats that live in the city will keep on keeping on and will vote party line Democrat. They still see ALL of this as Trump's fault. They can NOT make the logical connection that their local area is on fire due to the local politicians in charge. It just CAN'T be cause they mean well. It HAS to be OrangeManBad's fault! Has to!

They will continue to chant BLM as the brown shirts are beating them to death. They know no other way.

mockturtle said...

For Dems, it's not 'Black Lives Matter', it's 'Black Votes Matter'. And I think even some liberals are beginning to put two and two together. These police shooting of blacks along with subsequent rioting are nearly always done on the Dems' watch. Their governors. Their mayors. Their police.

Jeff Weimer said...

tim in vermont said...
"Ms. Ferwerda was writing “Black Lives Matter” on her storefront in red paint.”

This sounds a lot like being forced to perform the Heil White Left salute in a restaurant.

8/27/20, 6:08 AM


She's painting blood over her door in the hopes she'll be passed over, that they'll eat her last.

New profile who dis? said...

Democrats in MN, WA, OR, and now WI have allowed this foolery to continue because they believed it would hurt Trump more than it hurt them. If they gave a wet fart about their constituents they'd have handled their business and called in the guard when they couldn't.

Kenosha is on Evers and the people who voted for him.

Jamie said...

Ok, I watched Crack's video. It does a good job of laying out how we got to where we are, with two caveats: 1. The assertion that where we are is "not by accident, but by policy" reinforces the perception (I'm giving the narrator the benefit of the doubt and assuming he doesn't necessarily mean it this way) that the policies that led to the household wealth disparity between whites and blacks were aimed at that result. This isn't helpful; the post-Civil Rights Act policies he enumerates, such as the War on Drugs stuff, redlining, and massive growth in prison and DEA budgets, were reactive, each one responding to a real problem.

The collective result has been devastating to a portion of black America, but it reminds me of an episode of "E.R." in which the doc trying to become a pediatric surgeon is left to close after an operation his mentor had performed. He sees a bit of fiber on the infant's liver and tries gently to remove it. The liver immediately starts bleeding. He tries to locate what he touched that he damaged. Everything he does causes more damage. He doesn't want to call back his mentor from the operation she was called away to - he delays for a few more seconds - the baby's pressure is dropping - he finally surrenders to necessity and calls back the experienced surgeon, who tries to repair the damage he caused. Afterward, she berates him, telling him "I told you to close, nothing more!"; he says he was just trying to ensure he had a clean field. She tells him, "If that baby dies, it'll be my responsibility, but it'll be your fault." The problem is, there is no mentor for race relations who can fix what we've done, and we'd have to go all the way back to Hayes to undo it, which is impossible. So where do we go from here?

2. Piling on statistics without explanation is a rhetorical trick. Again, giving the narrator the benefit of the doubt, I'll say he was doing it to illustrate only the reasons for anger among American blacks - not to advance the idea that that anger is fully justified and not at all mitigated by the whole story beyond the statistics. But the effect is the same.

Yes, Jim Crow was evil, vagrancy and other such laws applied only to black men were evil, prisoner leasing in concert with such laws was evil. But no one alive today is either responsible or to blame for those. So why take it out on us? Why not suggest a collaborative approach that we could all try? No one (who matters) wants black household wealth to continue at such low levels.

rehajm said...

It's sounds like how people react when confronted with conflicting information. They're thinking I am a Democrat. I vote for Democrats. I identify with protests...I do not identify with what is happening here. I do not support what is happening here.

It makes it easier to reject what is happening if you say out loud what your head is telling you...

mockturtle said...

Jeff Brokaw observes: When your three year old gets angry because you enforce bedtime at 8pm, you understand why but you still enforce it.

Problem is, fewer parents enforce bedtime today and fewer mayors enforce the law.

John henry said...

Blogger The Crack Emcee said...

I'm just concerned with reality, and white Americans as evil racists is obvious to most people on the planet by now.

On the other hand, you've traveled and apparently found no place less racist than the US. Am I reading you right?

Having read you for the past 5-6 years or however long, I get that you think that 1) Racism is the biggest, perhaps the only, problem you face. 2) The US is terrible in this respect.

And yet, having been to other countries, I think even lived in other countries, here you are. Right back in the USA.

Why? If other countries are better (Which countries?) why are you here and not there?

John Henry

rehajm said...

And the media will suddenly go 24/7 on “Trump’s hurricane”.

I was thinking they've been writing the blame Trump for the hurricane stories for several days but now I'm wondering if the urgency of their other narratives has distracted them to the point they don't know a major hurricane is making landfall...

John henry said...


Blogger Left Bank of the Charles said...

Nothing but talk for 3 months now, and his talk is not helping.

What should he be saying?

More to the point, what should he be doing, in your opinion? And on what legal/constitutional authority?

President Trump is the worst Hitler ever!

John Henry

Bay Area Guy said...

Where is Sleepy Joe on this? The man who wants to be leader of the free world stays silent in his basement, as his staff tweets out pointless twaddle?

Not a profile in courage.

Pookie Number 2 said...

Fuck all y'all

This is, of course, a perfect example of choosing the easy, self-destructive response over the more difficult but ultimately fruitful investment of actual effort.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Is public safety at all a concern of the people interviewed or those doing the interviewing?

chuck said...

I sympathize with the Democratic mayors. They can't decide what will serve them most, preserving the infrastructure and protecting their productive citizens, or encouraging the mobs of felons and losers that threaten both. It is the sort of conundrum only a Democrat could suffer.

mezzrow said...

Doesn't the law allow for protection of property in such situations? I am thinking of the korean store owners during the LA riots and others in New Orleans after Katrina. Is this a state by state issue? What am I missing?

My understanding is that deadly force is only legal in defense of your person, not of your property. The Koreans on the roof were doing what they had to do, and daring the law to do what they had to do in response. The looters understood the position of the Koreans and saved their own hides at that time by not breaking in when they perceived armed defense on the rooftops. I really don't know how things turned out regarding anyone prosecuting the people on the rooftops, but I bet someone else does.

I suppose we will see similar situations play out in the near future, should this continue.

Todd said...

Left Bank of the Charles said...

Do you see the great leadership vacuum yet? It’s so great that you’re angry that the Not President Joe Biden hasn’t done enough to fix this problem. For most Republicans the violence is just a TV show on Fox that doesn’t threaten them personally.

8/27/20, 7:50 AM


And that is a problem why? It seems most "Republicans" choose wisely. They live in "red" areas that prompt responsibility, self control, and self reliance. They support law and order and expect their elected officials to do the same.

Should we really be all that upset that blue areas that have spend years crowing about how enlightened they are and how "fair" and liberal they are. How they decriminalize "petty" crimes. Support the right to protest. Maximize the social safety net. Encourage and promote homelessness, panhandling, vagreancy, drug use and prostitution. Strip citizens of their rights to defend themselves and their property. Tax them into oblivion all the while working to make it impossible for them to make political changes to undo the damage.

You made this bed, hope you like sleeping in it. Trump is doing the correct thing, again. He has made it clear that help is available when properly requested BUT as has been pointed out earlier this year, there is a limit to his powers and he can not impose his will on the states/cities. That is THEIR domain to manage.

What was that phrase about torpedoes circling around back and those that launched them? What should we be doing from our "safe" red areas, other then stocking up on more ammo and supplied, and getting extra large popcorns?

Rory said...

"Doesn't the law allow for protection of property in such situations?"

The legal authorities are arresting people who oppose the mob and show they are armed.

Browndog said...

If you've voted democrat all along, and just now this round of rioting is compelling you to re-think your voting habits...

...me thinks you'll find a way to rationalize voting democrat on election day. Emotions, not principle, are guiding their sudden "switch". Emotions change, principles do not.

Yancey Ward said...

"She said she understood the looting and burning."

Then I hope her antique funiture store gets burned to the ground. She deserves it.

Yancey Ward said...

At certain times, people deserve exactly what they get, even if it isn't nice.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

a point well covered in CHL classes

The takeaway I got was that if you have to use your gun, even if you will eventually be vindicated, your life will be greatly disrupted and probably ruined.

Yancey Ward said...

"As I said after George Floyd’s murder, protesting brutality is a right and absolutely necessary,”

Were I ever inclined to vote for Biden, a statement like this would change my vote. Especially given the new evidence from the M.E. for Hennepin County.

Ralph L said...

spray painted "Defund the APD" was changed into "Fund the APD"

I saw a photo with the graffiti "Black OLives Matter."

Yancey Ward said...

"Yeah, well, unfortunately, you can't protect your business by using a gun. You can have a gun, and you can open-carry it without a license in Wisconsin, but you can't use the gun unless the threat of serious violence is to a person."

This isn't true, not the way it was written. I know you are implying that you can't legally do so, but the statement itself as written isn't true. At some point, if the looting and arson isn't stopped, the looters and arsonists are going to get shot by the owners who will be taking on the legal risk with their eyes wide open.

I can tell you this right now- put me on a jury trying a guy who shot an arsonist trying to burn down his store or home, and I will acquit, and I promise you- I am not alone in this feeling. If the authorities won't enforce the law against looting and arson, I won't help them enforce it against the victims.

William said...

In Rwanda, no one was killed because of the color of their skin. There are other forms of hatred besides racial hatred, and they're even more intense and personal......The sluice gates are open. Black people are not migrating to Black run countries, nor to Black run cities. Black people do, however, have a tendency to vote for fools.....If police egregiously screw up while performing their duties, they should be held accountable, but they deserve some sympathy. If your job consists of apprehending violent felons who are bigger and stronger and crazier than you, it's easy to overreact and do the wrong thing.....Which is easier: training police to be perfect purveyors of justice and fortitude or training people not to pass phony currency while on drugs?

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

So Seattle and Portland can riot for months without notice in the NYT because they are safely deeply blue, right? But SWING STATE RIOTS are NOT helpful to intimidating and cowing potential Trump voters. So NOW the NYT is panicking. Got it!

Temujin said...

I keep hearing that change is needed- DEMANDED- right now. What kind of change? Police are not the problem in the Black community. Unarmed Black Americans shot and killed by police were less than 10 in 2019. That's a Friday night in Chicago.

Change has got to come from a lot of places, a lot of people, a lot of directions. But the most important change has to come from within the Black community itself. I can't initiate that change. Much to say about this and there is not the room here. Might have to say it all in another place.

If you keep doing the same things and expect the world around you to change for you, it's just not going to happen. You have to be the change. You have to change your perspective, how you interact with people, your family, kids, neighbors, and yes, the police. They actually leave their homes every morning with the job of protecting you, wondering if they'll make it back home at the end of their day. Sometimes- more often than people realize, they don't make it back home at the end of their shift. Throw in a country full of riots, national threats to kill all police, they are working on a very thin thread right now. Come at them with a knife, refuse arrest, nothing good is going to happen.

MikeR said...

"said the Democratic Party’s vision for governing seemed limited to attacking him and calling him a racist, a charge being leveled so constantly that it was having the effect of alienating, instead of persuading, people." I imagine that might indeed alienate someone instead of persuading them. But only if you repeat it constantly. Otherwise they appreciate it.
Liberals do want America to look more like Europe: far left parties, and neo-Nazis parties of people who have someone gotten alienated.

Balfegor said...

How can it work to rebrand America as a thoroughly racist and evil?! Who will buy that brand and how crazy are the Democrats to try to sell it?!

It's called "negging." I understand so-called "pick-up artists" find it extremely effective, actually.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

mezzrow My understanding is that deadly force is only legal in defense of your person, not of your property.

My opinion and understanding is that my property is essential to my person. The property that I use to make a living so that I can eat, pay my bills, survive, have a place to live.

Take away my property, that I have worked a lifetime for, you have threatened my person. Threatened to destroy my life. Threats to me an mine will be countered by appropriate force.

Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Drago said...

Crack Emcee: "Oh bullshit - you guys are so lame and all sound alike: my house took a bullet the same week I moved in. Two white guys were out joy riding and shooting up shit"

LOLOLOLOLOL

And they were wearing MAGA hats too. And screaming "this is MAGA Country" and "aren't you that guy who has his own blog with music on it?" at Crack while playing "Dixie" on the radio in their car, the General Lee. They also had nooses in their car....and masks....and at least 2 complimentary dinner coupons for the Outback Steak House (I'm unsure at this time of the relevance of that, perhaps a white supremacist meeting location?)

But Crack fought them off so aggressively he was able to keep his subway sandwich!

Meatball on wheat. And those crackers didn't even get a sniff, right Crack?

Well fought Crack, and your sandwich probably tasted all the better knowing the crisis you had come thru to enjoy it.

This all occurred at about 2am in San Francisco, a known hotbed of white supremacist and Klan activity.

The only thing remaining for Crack to do is contact LLR-lefty Chuck and retain him as counsel in order to option the movie rights. The only drawback is that LLR-lefty Chuck claims to be a super duper legal beagle who charges about eleventeen-thousand $$$ per hour and is in high demand from democrats to serve as a "republican" poll watcher.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

My understanding is that deadly force is only legal in defense of your person, not of your property.

What? Then why do armored trucks and jewelry stores hire armed guards? Those Koreans in the rooftops in LA were lawfully defending their lives AND property. The castle doctrine applies, right? If they are storming your castle they intend you harm.

Drago said...

William: "In Rwanda, no one was killed because of the color of their skin."

According to Crack Emcee, whites literally invented slavery, rape, murder and lying (yes, even lying) and practiced those things for 300 years before any other people began copying them.

Like most of you, I found this claim, like many of LLR-lefty Chuck's claims, "interesting".

So I asked Crack who were the first non-white peoples to begin copying whites in enslaving, murdering, raping and lying.

Inexplicably, Crack never did provide an answer to that question.

It was almost as if Crack is used to saying things that are obviously insane and people around him just let it go so on the rare occasion where someone asks Crack to support one of his hilariously moronic claims, he ends up just staring back at them with a blank look and has no answer.

At all.

But then I realized, ah ha!! Crack wants to answer, maybe even needs to answer, but there must be some whitey standing behind him and telling him he better not answer.....or else!

And that person also drives a "General Lee" car.

You know, you'd think that sort of vehicle would, I don't know, stand out in a crowd and make identification a little easier than usual.......

The Crack Emcee said...

Michael said...
Crack
“Oh bullshit - you guys are so lame and all sound alike: my house took a bullet the same week I moved in. Two white guys were out joy riding and shooting up shit.”

Did not happen.

Did so - I announced it here and everything.

Equipment Maintenance said...

Deadly force will be applied to harassers, looters, and rioters once the organized, but secret, program for jury nullification is in place.

mandrewa said...

"I realize you're all concerned about an election, but I'm just concerned with reality, and white Americans as evil racists is obvious to most people on the planet by now."

Imagine thinking thoughts like this for most of your life.

Suppose I was that person and I was black. Now here's something I just don't understand. What does it cost to fly to Africa? Is it, was it a several hundred dollars? Or was it six hundred dollars? The point is that's cheap enough that it hardly matters what my personal situation happens to be. There are any number of times I would have had that much money.

So why not just pick up and go to the Africa? What is so difficult about that? We can imagine difficulties, like it being a strange place. But I can also see this as an adventure, or as a challenge that would lead to my personal growth. And it would all come with this extraordinary prize -- getting away from those evil white racists! Imagine what it would be to live in a place without racists, where people aren't trying to hold me back!

So if I am that person, why didn't I do that? Why in fact aren't there millions of people, who think as I think, doing this?

D.D. Driver said...

Sometimes- more often than people realize, they don't make it back home at the end of their shift.

Guess how many LEOs are killed in the line of duty (not heart attacks and car accidents) as a result of intentional acts. Write down your number. Now click here and see how close you are.

Is that more often than you realized or dramatically less than your guess?

The Crack Emcee said...

He had a knife - the only option is to shoot him in the back 7 times.

White logic.

None of you looked at the link I gave you - just jabbering whitey's jabbering away.

Martin said...

Geraghty said: “The Democratic agenda to me right now is America is systematically racist and evil and the only people who can fix it are Democrats,” he said. “That’s the vibe I get.”

He is absolutely correct; the rest of the Democratic Party agenda is to take care of their corporate supporters, including universities and academic institutions, which they can't say in public. They do not view America as a country, but a ill-sorted basket of interest groups, each of which gets a cut of the pie as long as they support Democrats and reject Republicans. In some cases that cut is in part symbolic, running down the country or disfavored classifications such as "white males." Or, refusing to enforce the law so that their supporters can "express themselves" at the expense of others and society as a whole. But not a hint of there being something bigger, a nation that unites us all. Especially as they pay off some groups by disparaginga nd insulting others, there is no way they can do that and still be unifiers, no matter how hard the media twists things.

There are fundamental, internal problems with such a position, some of which are now becoming evident even to them.

Wasn't there a reporter, about a month ago, who was cancelled for reporting on an academic research paper that said the 1967-68 riots helped elect Nixon over Humphrey in 1968? He was cancelled then; now Lemon and C. Cuomo are saying it. This is so absurd.

H. Clinton lost in large part because her whole campaign and most of her hi-level supporters live in a small bubble and have no clue how "real people" live their lives. And tho beaten by a real estate developer cum reality TV personality with no political organization or experience, just a simple message, they show no interest in looking outside that bubble, preferring to just lie, cheat, and steal their way to victory in 2020.

In 55 years the Democrats went from JFK and HHH to AOC and the rest of The Squad as the face and soul of their party.

The Crack Emcee said...

IT'S STILL HERE - NARRATED BY A WHITE GUY TO MAKE YOU RACISTS FEEL EXTRA COMFORTABLE - ANYTIME YOU GUYS WANT TO STOP LYING TO EACH OTHER, COME ON.

Sam L. said...

Dems don't WANT to keep control of the situation. President Trump smiles as the Dems give him all the ammunition he can use.

DanTheMan said...

And for every suburban mom who is now leaning Trump because of the riots, I suspect there are two or three who are saying "If we elect that nice old man Biden all of this anger will go away."

Remember that most D's blame Trump for everything. If you doubt that, the "Hurricane Laura Trump's Katrina disaster" stories start going up today.

DanTheMan said...

>> I'm just concerned with reality, and white Americans as evil racists is obvious to most people on the planet by now.

Please share with us your generalizations about black people. And maybe Asians, too. Just so we all know if your racism is complete, or just partial.

Drago said...

Crack Emcee: "Did so - I announced it here and everything."

Jussie Smollett announced his "event" too........

The Crack Emcee said...

HERE'S PART TWO

Original Mike said...

Why would peaceful protests cause people to vote Republican?

daskol said...

Appropriate use of nouns:

"Don't blame that shit on no ni--ers, that's white people shooting."

(From Kenosha last night, the video captured by a citizen observing the chaos as a white kid shoots another white kid attacking him at an auto repair business).

Drago said...

Crack provides a link to "viral" video that never really went viral.

At all.

I can't think of a better metaphor for Crack.

But then again, "metaphor" is a english word derived from latin and greek before that, so, ipso facto, white supremacy.

Crack can explain it.

Wrote a song about it, like to hear it? Here it Goes.....


Pookie Number 2 said...

None of you looked at the link I gave you - just jabbering whitey's jabbering away.

Like so many of your assertions about “whitey’s”, this is false. The video was a well-done presentation that omitted any and all observations about the damage caused by fatherless parenting. But again, recognizing that requires an assumption of individual responsibility, and that’s a step too far.

Drago said...

The Crack Emcee: "He had a knife - the only option is to shoot him in the back 7 times."

Crack finally admits the obvious. He had a knife.

Good job Crack. That's a solid first step.

Now take the next one...

Joe Smith said...

Maybe stop referring to them as "Democratic leaders."

I will say it for the millionth time:

Politicians are not our leaders, they are our servants.

If everyone understood this the country would be in better shape.

The Crack Emcee said...

Drago said...

Crack Emcee: "Did so - I announced it here and everything."

Jussie Smollett announced his "event" too........

Yeah, but you guys forget: I know how to operate this internet thing-y and think this might ring a bell because I showed it then, too, you racist piece of shit.

Joe Smith said...

Did Crack grow up in the South? He throws around a lot of y'alls. If he didn't I am calling cultural appropriation...

The Crack Emcee said...

Drago said...

"Crack finally admits the obvious. He had a knife."

Crack never denied he had a knife.

Crack denies a knife is a reason for any American to die.

Ralph L said...

From Driver's link:

27 officers were feloniously killed in the South
9 in the Midwest
9 in the West
1 in the Northeast
2 in Puerto Rico

Stephen St. Onge said...

"Patrick said...

"Doesn't the law allow for protection of property in such situations? I am thinking of the korean store owners during the LA riots and others in New Orleans after Katrina. Is this a state by state issue? What am I missing?"

        I am somewhat surprised all y'all are so ignorant of how our country works.  Just when lethal force is justified is a matter of state law.  In some states, in some circumstances, it is excusable to shoot someone to prevent a felony involving theft or destruction of property, in others it is not, in the same circumstances.

See e.g. https://www.usacarry.com/lethal-force-defense-property/

LA_Bob said...

The Crack Emcee said, "The "problem"...is whites made generations of Americans poor and desperate"

Crack, take your "all y'all" and stick it.

White people freed the slaves.
White people ended Jim Crow.
White people desegregated the schools.
White people passed anti-discrimination laws.
White people passed fair-housing laws.
White people advanced affirmative action.
White peopled spent billions and billions to end poverty.

Your lame statement lumps all white people into one huge basket of deplorables. Treats white people like we're aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal alike. White people, like black people are not aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal alike.

You're just a big, dumb racist, no different from and no better than the people you condemn. Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, and the Hodge Twins would eat your ass for breakfast if they could tolerate the taste.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Are they "nervous about condemning the looting because... they understood the rage behind it" or are they nervous about condemning the looting because they're afraid of the social and economic consequences of speaking out against the looting?

If the former, they are bad human beings. Being "angry" about something doesn't give you the right to harm innocent humans beings.

"My girlfriend dumped me, so I went downtown and beat up the first girl I saw that reminded me of her." You find that justified? No?

Then drop the BS about "rage" justifying looting, burning, and attacking people.

If the latter, then the people who impose those "social and economic consequences" need to have their power destroyed. Since those people are all Democrats, taht means you shoudl vote against all Democrats, until the Democrats stop supporting that oppression

Stephen St. Onge said...

"Martin said...

"Wasn't there a reporter, about a month ago, who was cancelled for reporting on an academic research paper that said the 1967-68 riots helped elect Nixon over Humphrey in 1968? He was cancelled then; now Lemon and C. Cuomo are saying it. This is so absurd."

      Three months ago.  His name is David Shor, whose self-description on Twitter is that he works to get Democrats elected.  He was fired from his job with a left-wing data analytics group for a tweet in which he pointed out an academic study by a professor named Omar Wasow, said study saying that the riots of 1968 swung enough votes to Nixon to let him win in November.  The firm denies the tweet was what got him fired, but anonymous sources who allegedly work for the firm said the firm took so much shit from left-wing clients that they fired him in self-defense.

        Here's the tweet.  And here's a Vox piece about it from two months ago.

        Shor has since acquired a similar job at a different firm.  As a condition of employment, he must not reveal the firm's name, lest their clients go after the firm for hiring this evil person.

Stephen St. Onge said...

"Jeff Brokaw said...

"When your three year old gets angry because you enforce bedtime at 8pm, you understand why but you still enforce it."

        If your three-year-old could vote you out of the position of parent, that might change awfully fast.

Joe Smith said...

I have no intention of being lectured to by a blackie...

Greg The Class Traitor said...

The Crack Emcee: "He had a knife - the only option is to shoot him in the back 7 times."

He was resisting arrest, and had a deadly weapon. Of course he got shot.


Here's an easy guide to not getting shot by the police: Don't resist arrest.


Pretty easy, huh?

"But the arrest is illegitimate!" Yes, that happens. Sue them. Later. When you're alive, and uncrippled, because you didn't resist arrest

"But I need to take my kids home!" I'm sorry, but that isn't going to happen. Would you like to have your kids see you get beat up? Shot? No? Then don't resist arrest.

Don't resist arrest.

Because if you do resist arrest, we will have no sympathy for you, no matter what happens to you.

Wilbur said...

Y'all better go look at Crack's video link. He's getting pissed that people here are ignoring him.

It's childish to crave attention.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
white Americans as evil racists is obvious to most people on the planet by now.

Well, of course. Most of the "white Americans" who get media time are leftists, and they all are virulent racists.

They call it "diversity", they call it "identity politics" they call it "affirmative action", but to anyone with a brain, it's all just racism.

The problem with trying to "sell" that message is that teh people pushing it are racist pigs who are pushing for America to be more racist

Michael K said...

For most Republicans the violence is just a TV show on Fox that doesn’t threaten them personally.

Hilarious. Lefty thinks the violence is a TV show until it comes to your neighborhood. Republicans tend to live in settings that don't tolerate that shit.

My granddaughter was shopping in San Clemente yesterday with two friends when they became aware of two adult men and teen girl who were following them and videoing them. They asked a store manager for help and she called her mother. My DIL called the OC Sheriff station and the deputies were there in 5 minutes. The three stalkers had left.

Now, think about Portland. Or Minneapolis.

OC elected Democrats in 2018 as a result of a successful trial of ballot harvesting. It will be interesting to see if that happens again.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

The Crack Emcee said...
"Some worry that local Democratic leaders are failing to keep control of the situation."
The suggestion they COULD keep control of it is funny.

Of course they could. On the first night they could have ordered the police to immediately arrest anyone engaging in any sort of violent or destructive act. Everyone arrested could have been tossed in jail and left there for teh maximum time allowed by law.

When they asked Democrat Governor Evers for 1500 National Guard troops, he should have sent them.

There is no right to riot. There is no right to violent protest. If the local Democratic leaders had made it clear that they weren't going to allow violence and destruction, there would have been very little of it

rcocean said...

Don't worry Democrats. Your base voters are so stupid, they'll literally go bankrupt rather than vote Republican. "Sure my business burned down, but by God, those Damn Republicans lost" they'll say. I think Republicans keep making the same mistake of the believing Democrats are rational or intelligent. I think they're going to have a rude surprise when the Democrats responsible for the riots all get re-elected.

rcocean said...

Blacks vote 9-1 Democrat NO MATTER WHAT. Other minorities 2-1 Democrat. Suburban Moms 55-45 Democrat. NO MATTER WHAT. People don't seem to understand. These people vote their identity and don't care what the Democrats actually do - or will do. They'll live in a pig sty, as long as there's a Democrat in charge.

rcocean said...

Blacks vote 9-1 Democrat NO MATTER WHAT. Other minorities 2-1 Democrat. Suburban Moms 55-45 Democrat. NO MATTER WHAT. People don't seem to understand. These people vote their identity and don't care what the Democrats actually do - or will do. They'll live in a pig sty, as long as there's a Democrat in charge.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Left Bank of the Charles said...
The shirker in chief is Donald Trump. He’s the President. Nothing but talk for 3 months now, and his talk is not helping.

Bzzt.

The Federal Government does not have a generalized police power. Only State and local governments do under our Federal system.

Now, at some point the President will probably chose to get involved because of the massive civil rights violations that the local officials are engaging it, by letting mobs of the politicians supporters attack and attempt to intimidate the general public

But for now he thinks the best move is to let the voters experience the results of their bad choice to vote for Democrat local officials

SconnieFella said...

"tim in vermont said...
"Ms. Ferwerda was writing “Black Lives Matter” on her storefront in red paint.”

This sounds a lot like being forced to perform the Heil White Left salute in a restaurant."

It's like putting up a portrait of you're country's dictator in your business. It's not enough to not publicly criticize, you must publicly support the person / ideology in power.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Doesn't the law allow for protection of property in such situations?

Your State may vary. I am not a lawyer, but one of my parents was, and I grew up around discussions and arguments about the law. And I've been through multiple carry classes (one very good one, others not so good) where teh law was discussed

In general:

No, you may not use deadly force to prevent "mere" property damage.
HOWEVER

1: Arson is not "mere property damage". Fires grown, and can easily threaten human lives. So State laws about use of deadly force when stopping arson vary widely

2: There are many places from which you do not have a "duty to retreat". If someone wants to destroy X, and you are between them and X, and you have no duty to retreat, or no way to retreat to safety, you can usually use deadly force to prevent them from going through you to destroy X

3: There are often different rules about preventing looting during a natural disaster. Because, among other things, you might not be able to replace that food / water they are trying to steal / destroy. Which means your life can be on the line there

4: What the Korean shopkeepers did was against the law. And, IIRC, at some point some political thug sent cops in to disarm shopkeepers who were protecting their property.

However

5: It's only illegal if a jury would vote to convict. And since no jury would vote to convict, none of them were charged. IMAO, no jury in Kenosha will vote to convict the kid who shot the thugs. I certainly wouldn't. And I would cheerfully lie my ass off to get on such a jury.

Joe Smith said...

@Bob

You forgot, white people invented pretty much everything worth inventing to make people's lives easier.

Minorities who complain all the time about evil white people should do the principled thing and denounce using anything invented by whitey. Start with computers and the internet...

Yancey Ward said...

It is perhaps something to do with my browser, but this was hilarious to me:

"Yeah, but you guys forget: I know how to operate this internet thing-y and think this might ring a bell because I showed it then, too, you racist piece of shit.

The link gave me an error message as "Not Found".

Joe Smith said...

@SconnieFella

"Ms. Ferwerda was writing “Black Lives Matter” on her storefront in red paint.”

And if the protesters told her that Jews were bad, she would be painting "Juden Verboten."

She's a sheep. She deserves to have her store destroyed.

todd galle said...

If I remember correctly, it takes about 1.5 seconds for an individual to close the distance between another person 10 yards away. So, if this individual grabbed the knife, and turned (remember an officer was holding his shirt - quite closer than 10 yards), there was little to no reaction time. The shooting officer was in a horrible position, no question. Possibly watch a fellow officer get stabbed, or taking the shot. There is no reason whatsoever to reach under a car seat after an officer has told you not to, after being tazed, and resisting arrest. Sorry, that activity will get you shot. I would expect to be shot under those circumstances, and i'm a 55 year old white man. I've been pulled over once (classic speed trap / California roll) after not fully stopping at a stop sign. I have a concealed carry permit for my state. I told the officer such as he approached, indicated where my pistol was, and told him to secure it if he wished. He was dismissive, thanking me for my information, and gave me a $25 ticket, which with court costs and add-ons ended up being $115. BUT, I went on to work, and home to my family.

Joe Smith said...

"If I remember correctly, it takes about 1.5 seconds for an individual to close the distance between another person 10 yards away."

He followed his police training by shooting into Blake's body mass (easiest target).

If the cop wanted to flat-out kill/murder him he would have put those rounds into the back of Blake's head.

Nichevo said...


tim in vermont said...
It has swayed my vote. I was seriously not even going to register at my new address in Florida, where I will be headed after Labor Day. Now I will vote for Trump. Not sure about voting for anybody else.

8/27/20, 6:28 AM



Good for you, tim! Got to advise you though that it's best if you vote the straight Republican ticket. As sad a lot as the GOP are, Nancy ("People will do what people will do") Pelosi is definitely one of the elements that you are fighting. So you need to do what you can to remove her from power, i.e. the majority leadership.

So please vote Republican for House, and Senate and dog catcher too as you have the opportunity. The D Machine must be drubbed at all levels.

Drago said...

tim in vermont: "It has swayed my vote. I was seriously not even going to register at my new address in Florida, where I will be headed after Labor Day. Now I will vote for Trump. Not sure about voting for anybody else."

There are some good republicans down ballot as well.

Drago said...

Wilbur: "Y'all better go look at Crack's video link. He's getting pissed that people here are ignoring him."

Crack who?

hstad said...


Blogger The Crack Emcee said..."...I've traveled and most of the world buys that brand now - I have to explain American white people to others...." - "...white Americans as evil racists is obvious to most people on the planet by now...."8/27/20, 6:24 AM

Sure Crack, keep smoking your stuff - no riots in UK, Sweden, France, H.K., etc., all those racist whites all over the World. Man you need intervention!

Greg The Class Traitor said...

The Crack Emcee said...
Crack denies a knife is a reason for any American to die.

Then Crack is a moron. A knife is a deadly weapon. If you're holding a knife and threatening me, and I have a gun, there isn't a State in this nation where I can't legally shoot and kill you.

And rightly so

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

In his defense, maybe crack meant that we should only kill illegal immigrants who have knives.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-data-shows-5-times-more-people-killed-knives-rifles-last-year

But as the statistics show, it really isn’t being used against that many Americans. In fact, far more Americans are dying by knives. According to the FBI data, 1,515 were stabbed, cut, or maimed to death by a knife or other cutting instrument. This is a number 5 times higher than those killed by rifles, which sits at just 297.

If a knife isn't grounds to shoot someone, Crack, then neither is a gun

Jeff Brokaw said...

Stephen St Onge said: “If your three-year-old could vote you out of the position of parent, that might change awfully fast.”

A public official absolutely *cannot* sacrifice public safety to patronize interest groups. The reasons why are obvious.

Pandering to interest groups is obviously a big part of what politics is all about, but public safety is — should be — non-negotiable. That’s why this is all so shocking to so many people, a big bright line has been crossed and I for one never could have imagined anything like this summer’s violence in a naked and obvious attempt to manufacture discontent and swing an election.

Nichevo said...


Leland said...
I would rather vote for people who pander to those with a child-like fear of masks,

Go back to Vermont, you petty authoritarian.


Don't be an ass, Leland. Where freedom lies is being able to wear a mask or not wear a mask, and to not be dragged for either. People feel the way they feel. Nobody is providing much reason either way. Let him be, take the W. The other guys do show trials with forced confessions, not us.


Crack said...

Crack never denied he had a knife.

Crack denies a knife is a reason for any American to die.

8/27/20, 10:48 AM


Disagree with Crack. A knife is perfectly adequate reason. If you have a knife and I have no knife but a gun, am I supposed to holster it and let you cut my throat? If I have two guns, should I give you one? Should the police in addition to their service pistols, carry an assortment if knives, so that when you pull your knife, they can draw one of equal size and sharpness, so that you can have a nice fair knife fight?

Crack, I don't know if anything that would make you happy is possible. Why don't "y'all" stop criming and see how that works out for you?



Michael K said...

Minorities who complain all the time about evil white people should do the principled thing and denounce using anything invented by whitey. Start with computers and the internet...

That works for me. Teach whitey how well you can do without all that stuff. Especially big screen TVs.

eddie willers said...

There are no comments on this article,

Virtually all comment sections were removed after Trump's Mt. Rushmore speech.

ken in tx said...

AFAIK, Texas is the only state that allows deadly force to be used to protect property. All the others require you to convince a jury that your(or someone else's) life was in danger when you shot. There are articles in gun mags that explain the exact words you should use when the cops come.

Terry Ott said...

Missing from the leftist commentary about protests that turn into arson and looting is this message:

You have a right to be impatient and indignant about racial inequality when you see and experience it, and to speak and act forcefully about it. But when it comes to lighting FIRES you need to light your own internal fire. That fire is not a short-lived blaze but a consistent fire powering YOU to achieve all the way to being in charge and achieving the best for yourself, despite whatever barriers you perceive. That burning desire, often called "the fire in your belly", is what can help us all bring about the change you and fellow protestors rightly crave.