Windows of businesses and residential buildings being smashed on University Avenue — which were not preemptively boarded up. This Papa John’s employee asks protesters, “Do you want Trump to be elected?” pic.twitter.com/IbSubGfGs6
— Dylan Brogan (@telldylan) August 26, 2020
(That's University Avenue in Madison, Wisconsin.)
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No doubt the window was broken by some guy in a Hawaiian shirt. I am sure Inga can clear this up for us with some talking points.
"Do you want Trump to be re-elected?"
Is that a trick question?
The left doesn't build, it only destroys. Therefore, they can't understand people who start, develop and operate businesses. That's today's Democratic Party. And they're only concerned about the looting, rioting, and burning out of possible political repercussions, not because it's criminal and despicable.
They are your movement.
"These people don't represent out movement."
They do now.
"They're with you!"
Exactly.
Well, sports are cancelled again.
Somebody had better got over to Packer camp and tell them to get their not-woke-enough asses off the practice field.
Dear Ann,
This is what happens when you elect Democrats.
XOXO
Fled
Some, Select Black Lives Matter. What did they expect? Diversity normalizes adversity.
I'm sure some are very fine people.
No doubt the window was broken by some guy in a Hawaiian shirt
Bugaboo! #HateLovesAbortion
The guy’s right. If the people you are with are damaging your movement and obscuring your message, then it’s on YOU to square them around. If you tolerate their presence, then they are part of your movement.
I'm old enough to remember when even Democrats wouldn't stand for this sort of thing.
There's no movement that's not based on a hoax.
Like she was out on the street changing minds.
I wish this would result in Trump being re-elected. But I'm doubtful, and beginning to think that its only Trump voters that are upset at all the rioting, property damage, death, and looting. The Liberals and Democrats voters seem to be like Joe Biden and Pelosi. That is: pretty blase about the whole thing. Like "It'd be nice if we could be peaceful and not be violent, but antifa/BLM are protesting INJUSTICE. So, if some people get killed or property destroyed, well no big whoop". Go read Biden's bland take on the riots and destruction.
Wouldn't it be crazy if Biden and the D's win and this becomes the new normal for the next four years?
I went down to photograph on State St. last nigh and talked with a few folks, obviously not everyone, and left after 10. at that point I would say the majority were not part of the destruction that went on later, but I did meet a few very angry folks, don’t take my photo, and drunk folks, not necessarily the same. I think it is senseless to try and justify this destruction, as some do, And like the shop owner, I worry that this is pushing people who think in simplistic terms into the Trump camp.
Emily Kaplan
ESPN Hockey Reporter
Disappointed, but not surprised the NHL is the only pro sport continuing to play tonight.
Hockey has a chance to join a statement for social change. Instead, once again, the NHL is just looking the other way.
8:48 PM · Aug 26, 2020
Cernovich: In Woketopia, companies boycott themselves.
6:01 PM · Aug 26, 2020
They do want Trump to get re-elected. It will give them all the media cover they need for full on destruction.
"These people don't represent our movement."
It's a little late to come to that conclusion. How many months has this vandalism and rioting been going on? How many months have elected Democrat office holders - Mayors and on up- been silent to tolerant about the vandalism and rioting?
Recall the public shaming of that one diner in DC who stood up to BLM coercion. Isn't that public shaming what Congresscritter Maxine Waters supported doing to Republican higher-ups several years ago? It's shaming all the way down.
"They're with you."
Only one question for the nice women of America: are you with them?
"I worry that this is pushing people who think in simplistic terms into the Trump camp."
I think it's not simplistic, but simple: You want more destruction and chaos like this, elect Biden, because Democrats aren't doing a thing about this stuff.
I don't think that's a simplistic take. I think it's a realistic take. I don't know how you have a complex take where you don't wind up in the same place.
It's interesting that people who presumably don't want Trump to be re-elected assume that other people are like them and should assume that rioting translates into votes for Trump.
I see the same assumptions from the Trump base on twitter.
But, if Trump is the only person who people believe can stop it, why doesn't he stop it now?
Isn't it callous not to do what people expect you to do as president?
They’re not thinking in simplistic terms you irredeemable dumbshit. They’re thinking about surviving. Your team refuses to permit them to survive.
roesch/voltaire said...
I worry that this is pushing people who think in simplistic terms into the Trump camp.
Well, duh...
He doesn't understand...it's about racial justice.
Soon he will be made to understand, and he will embrace it.
He will finally love Big Brother!
Hey that reminds me. What's the latest on the Minnesota umbrella guy? Does he have a name yet? Has he been arrested?
"I worry that this is pushing people who think in simplistic terms into the Trump camp."
Afraid of losing the "simplistic thinker" vote?
LOL!
There's only 2 types of people at these "protests".
Rioters and those giving cover to rioters.
Both kinds are equally shitty people.
Oh, boo bloo bloo. The majority don't support the violence, they just provide human shields, social networks, and logistical... support, like water and medicine.
Hands totally clean.
"Do you want Trump to be elected?"
"Why, yes, I do."
Yes. I want Trump to be elected.
People who are highly intelligent don’t have to be “pushed” into the Trump camp; we’ve been there for a while.
They don't represent the movement, except that at EVERY SINGLE "PROTEST" THERE THEY ARE!
Get out of here with your BS.
" I worry that this is pushing people who think in simplistic terms into the Trump camp. "
There is no such thing as "simplistic".
Not even in engineering. Data is data and facts are facts, and cannot be ignored.
The problem may be complex but ignoring things does not help troubleshoot the problem.
There is such a thing as being too willing to rationalize.
Rationalizations are more plausible coming from intelligent people but they are still lies even so.
Blogger Swede said...
LOL!
There's only 2 types of people at these "protests".
Rioters and those giving cover to rioters.
Both kinds are equally shitty people.
8/26/20, 8:48 PM
This is perfect. At the beginning you could claim ignorance.
If you go to a BLM protest now, you know there is going to be a riot, looting, assaults, etc. Ignorance is no longer a defense.
Well, R/V, worry away. I think you are on to something. This is even pushing people who think complex terms into the Trump camp.
Part of the problem is that the non-judgmental types who flock to the Democratic Party have a rather naive view of human nature, particularly humans in large groups where personal responsibility dissolves. When guaranteeing the rights of assembly and petition, the Founders put a condition in the First Amendment: "Congress... shall make no law abridging... the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Note the "peaceably" condition. A lot of Democrat governors apparently believe that throwing a rock through the window of a business and setting a fire, or trying to blind sworn police officers with lasers is something that they should not clamp down.
That is stupid, and a lot of Americans, including you, know it is stupid.
Personally, I am going to stage my own protest at that stupidity by voting for Trump.
His riposte and gesture is exactly right: they are with her, and she is with them.
Rioters: "There are NO 'good cops' until the 'good cops' hold the 'bad cops' accountable."
Small Business: "Why are you hurting me, I did nothing to you?"
Rioters: "Those are the 'bad protesters' and they don't represent our movement."
Do I have this right?
roesch/voltaire said...
I went down to photograph on State St. last nigh and talked with a few folks, obviously not everyone, and left after 10. at that point I would say the majority were not part of the destruction that went on later, but I did meet a few very angry folks, don’t take my photo, and drunk folks, not necessarily the same. I think it is senseless to try and justify this destruction, as some do, And like the shop owner, I worry that this is pushing people who think in simplistic terms into the Trump camp.
That will be quite a Bump for Trump... that should reduce the Biden camp - including campaign staff - and their supporters BIGLY!
" I worry that this is pushing people who think in simplistic terms into the Trump camp."
LOL. Those darn stupid deplorables again.
It would take some real pretzel logic, and probably a degree in the humanities, for this to push you towards voting for Biden.
Simplistic, huh?
Like as simple as thinking looting and rioting are fun and consequence-free . . . or should be?
Narr
Simplistic indeed
If they don't represent the movement, they should have no problem providing the evidence needed to bring them to justice.
R/V...
Fire BAD!
Trump GOOOOOOD!
Scene just now on episode of Gunsmoke where a man gets lynched only for the crowd to learn that he was actually innocent of stealing horses. One of the mob comes to tell his wife and son.
The son tells the man, "Someone ought to kill you."
The man responds, "Don't talk like that. I said we was sorry. Just the same, don't go saying anything to the law."
"These people don't represent our movement."
Yes they do. You would have quelched them months ago if they didn't. Anyone who is thinking of voting for a Dem at any level above dog catcher is fully complicit. Democrats own this in its entirety. It's clear and any thinking person knows it. You own it. And you know it.
Think it will make the store owner vote for Trump? Probably not.
An example of "simplistic" solutioning in engineering -
- Find problem. Solution (A) seems simple.
- Implement solution A
- Find problem is not fixed, or not completely, or there is a new problem
- Solution B seems likely. Implement Solution B
- Find problem not fixed.
- Implement Solution C
...
Ultimately the thing does work, or work well enough. Now you have a Solution X that you can try when something similar comes up. Make sure to stick it in your cookbook.
This is how problems are solved most of the time.
Life is empirical.
"episode of Gunsmoke where a man gets lynched only for the crowd to learn that he was actually innocent of stealing horses"
They ripped off "The Ox-Bow Incident"?
The nerve!
Of course they represent the movement! They are the political enforcement wing of the Democrat Party. They have tried to burn down Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle, Kenosha. They have looted and destroyed large parts of NYC, LA & Chicago.
These fuckers are organized and weaponized.
Have a group of #MAGA hatted Republicans gone rampaging through town in response to the execution murder of 5 year old Cannon Hinnant??
Thanks, Democrats!
Don Lemon admitted the riots are costing Dems
Biden got no bounce from the Cringevention
Trump/RNC is creaming them this week
RNC should do split screen showing the burning and the speakers...
Or make the convention 100% cops - assaulted cops, dead cop wives, what cops think of this
Conservatives should make a video of the BLM riots and intersperse the logos of all the BLM sponsors - AT&T, Wal-Mart, NBA, MLB - all the corporate sell-outs
Democrats and Big Corporations sponsored this!
Its so bad the DC mayor is moved to condemn the fist raising fascists
Eat it, O wolves!
> And like the shop owner, I worry that this is pushing people who think in simplistic terms into the Trump camp.
HA HA
The shop owner is not "worried" that Trump will be relected. Guy who owns/manager Papa John's franchise with family to feed knows the score.
He attempts to persuade the mob using logic he thinks will appeal to them.
Come on Voltaire, you can "nuance" better.
" I worry that this is pushing people who think in simplistic terms into the Trump camp."
It was a nuanced riot.
My deep fear is that this will not inspire people who think in simplistic terms to vote for Trump.....I do think, however, that if Biden wins, BLM and Covid-19 shutdowns will go the way of Cindy Sheehan. All to the good, but so will fracking, immigration laws, and charter schools.
Remember where all this began?
"You didn't build that. "
People aren't allowed to have small business or personal property-this has been the left wing war cry since Obama confirmed the position for all.
The left keeps trying to invent justification to soften the factvthat all it does is destroy.
Guess the Papa Johns guy couldn't see the nuance.
Warren Harding, when he was in the Senate, sponsored legislation that would have made lynching a federal offense. The bill went nowhere....Jefferson, Jackson, and Wilson have just recently fell out of favor with the Democrats for their racially benighted policies, but Republicans--with the exception of Grant--have not received any corresponding credit for enlightened policies. Eisenhower was more of a civil rights hawk than Stevenson. Stevenson opposed sending troops to Little Rock to enforce the desegregation order. Truman signed the order integrating the military, but Eisenhower was the one who made it happen. Eisenhower, not Truman or FDR, was the one who terminated the Jim Crow laws in Washington DC.
roesch/voltaire
I think it is senseless to try and justify this destruction, as some do, And like the shop owner, I worry that this is pushing people who think in simplistic terms into the Trump camp.
Speaking of simplistic terms, there was the meme a while back that "white supremacists" were the ones doing the vandalism and rioting. Last month roesch/voltaire informed us of what Richmond PD said "white supremacists" were doing in riots in Richmond.
July 28 A masked man who was seen in a viral video smashing the windows of a south Minneapolis auto parts store during the George Floyd protests, earning him the moniker 'Umbrella Man,' is suspected to be a member of the Hell’s Angels biker gang..."
roesch/voltaire :
Add that arrest to this :RICHMOND, Va. – Riots in downtown Richmond over the weekend were instigated by white supremacists under the guise of Black Lives Matter, according to law enforcement officials. And it makes one wonder how many extreme right wingers have been involved in this kind of action.
roesch/voltaire has accurately reported what Richmond PD sources said in the press in late July. However, it appears that Richmond PD has changed its tune about "white supremacists" rioting.
August 12: 4 charged after riots in City of Richmond Tuesday night.
"Julius Dela Cruz, Lakshmi Menon, Kyra Nguyen and Brian Quach were arrested just before midnight and charged with rioting. Richmond Police seized items such as a metal crowbar and a hammer."
Very few people associate white supremacists with those surnames.
August 19: Antifa Rioters 'Embedded Themselves' Among Peaceful Protesters to Wreak Havoc in Richmond.
On Monday, Richmond, Va., Police announced they had arrested 12 people after a riot on Sunday night. At a press conference, Richmond Police Chief Gerald Smith said every suspect was affiliated with antifa to some degree or another. He also noted that antifa activists had embedded themselves among peaceful protesters.
One simplistic attempt to blame the riots on "white supremacists" or "extreme right wingers" which roesch/voltaire was all to willing to propagate. I doubt roesch/voltaire will do any mea culpas on this.
“These people don’t represent our movement.”
Isn’t it pretty to think so?
Bay Area Guy
Have a group of #MAGA hatted Republicans gone rampaging through town in response to the execution murder of 5 year old Cannon Hinnant??
Just like they rioted in Minneapolis in 2017 over the Somali cop killing a woman from Australia who had called 911.
"Come on Voltaire, you can "nuance" better."
No, I really don't think he can.
Pelosi sanctioned all of this weeks ago when she said 'People are going to do what they are going to do.'
The modern democrat party elite/media corporate whore elite own 100% responsibility for their leftwing antifa terrorists.
It seems like some libs, like this one quoted here or Don Lemmon, are worried that the anti-DJT POV re the election will suffer if other folks commit crime.
There’s a lot of branching from that sentence. But the threads on this blog must be sheltered from thinking. Hence the deleting of my comments before they cab be seen in threads.
Carry on.
Speaking of
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/more-riots-looting-in-minneapolis.php
"Do you want Trump to be elected?""
The basic defect of leftist ideas is always the unintended consequence. That's giving these assholes credit for having an intended consequence. Which they couldn't articulate if you gave them an hour and a dictionary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/us/kenosha-wisconsin-trump.html
Make sure to read the Fraudian correction at the end. It's awesome. Whoops!
At this point I have to think the Democrat Establishment does actually want Trump to be re-elected. Biden, enabling the riots, these are unforced errors that are simply too grossly self-harming to be, well, unforced errors. Perhaps the money men have looked at the ascendant loony Left in their party and said, fuck it, better four more years of Trump than letting these clowns destroy our world. A couple of devastating defeats and the establishment Democrats will be in a position to purge the wreckers from the party.
"I worry that this is pushing people who think in simplistic terms into the Trump camp." Lord, r/v. Is there nothing that nuance can't rationalize? Please provide the context that my simplistic mind is missing.
It might not convince blasé democrats to vote for Trump, but it will convince working dudes who might have forgotten to vote to get their behinds to the polling station.
Again, turning out the natural Trump vote is far more important that convincing a tiny sliver of "undecideds" or worse, weak democrats to vote for Trump. It's a 2004 election dynamic. Turnout is key
Democrat office holders can't denounce the riots. It will piss off too much of their base. Simple as that.
Dem politicians then: Release the dogs of resistance/war! Dem politicians now: you're not good doggies, back in the kennel you shud go". Dogs now: GFY, we're free!
anti-de Sitter space said...
It seems like some libs, like this one quoted here or Don Lemmon, are worried that the anti-DJT POV re the election will suffer if other folks commit crime.
There’s a lot of branching from that sentence. But the threads on this blog must be sheltered from thinking. Hence the deleting of my comments before they cab be seen in threads.
Carry on.
8/26/20, 10:01 PM
What are you whining about now? You post plenty. Lots of jabber but not much thinking. If your contention is that Meadehouse publish your crapulent comments but censor your good ones...really?
roesch/voltaire thinks people who want property rights respected are simplistic.
I hope he gets exactly the political outcome he wants.
I want him to experience the warm embrace of the Leftist Collectivists.
The Left always puts its own against the wall first.
Good luck, pinko.
No true Scotsman would riot like that!
Downtown Minneapolis was vandalized and looted again today. This shit is getting old.
Today this is an organic movement of the people's voices. On November 4th it will have been a false flag operation.
Speaking of "...people who think in simplistic terms..." A homicide suspect was approached by the Minneapolis PD on the street. Video shows him pull out a handgun and shoot himself dead. Now Minneapolis is once again awash with violence and looting. This less like justice and more like a drinking game.
How about this? "The unrest, which included looted stores and smashed windows, came after a report of a man's death on Nicollet Mall. Police responded by saying he was a homicide suspect who shot himself, releasing video of him." The acceptance of this by the cowering in place, mask wearing sheeple foretells the end of the American experiment. BTW it happened in MPLS, who could've guesses?
BTW, who remembers the MPLS Somali cop who murdered a young (white) woman and the ensuing white supremacist riots destroying Mogadishu in MN?
“These people don’t represent our movement.”
At some point, you have to recognize that the people who don't represent your movement are you.
Disappointed, but not surprised the NHL is the only pro sport continuing to play tonight.
Braves swept the Yankees in a double header.
Oh, what a surprise. After stirring up the crazies the Democrats are whistling and looking the other way, pretending to be innocent bystanders. Sorry folks. You own this.
They say that when you lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas. It is idiotic to claim that the people burning, looting and rioting do not represent their movement when they themselves march around yelling "No justice, no peace." What the hell do they mean by that threat if it is not supposed to mean there will be violence, looting and intimidation unless everyone bows a knee to them and their every demand? If they only want to protest, they should do it during daylight, without masks,showing that they are willing to be identified with their beliefs, carrying signs, not fireworks, clubs and guns, picketing in front of public buildings instead of trying to burn them down with people inside. If they marched down the streets peacefully, they might win the hearts and minds of the majority of people instead of their disdain.
Actually, the rioters do want Trump to win. "The worse the better" as the old reds said. Lenin himself, I believe.
????? "Do you want Trump to be reelected?" ?????
Uhhh...last time I checked, Trump is currently the president, and therefore this is Trump's America right now. By the MAGA clowns own logic, Trump caused this.
What kind of ass-backwards idiocy would make someone believe that re-electing Trump will prevent more of the violence that has exploded during the Trump presidency? LOL.
Also, of course, no mention from Althouse of the racist boogaloo right-wing Trump supporter who came to Kenosha from Illinois and murdered two protesters. Guess it's acceptable for a white teen to commit murder, so long as he supports Trump.
Like anybody cares.
Nobody cares.
Fuck y'all: you lied to us and everybody knows it.
....and they thought Chicago 68 was a good idea???
Obama was the end of affirmative action....and he was nothing but a shit stain in Hillary Clinton's underpants.
The proof is in the broken glass pizza.
Landslide will bring you down
Yes they do.
Police have to deal with these kinds of fucktards day in day out, taking this shit. It is remarkable that police shootings aren't more frequent.
I'm almost 60 and going to be dead soon:
Never had a day's break from y'all's bullshit.
BURN IT ALL TO THE GROUND.
If the United Staes does not succeed, blame, blame yourselves.
Since you're so hot on personal responsibility.
Let me put this in terms you can understand:
Just like Trump is fighting the Democrats, the Republican Party AND the Never Trumper conservatives, blacks are fighting several groups at once as well - and it's a war of attrition, so who gets hurt is beside the point:
Y'all bullshitted my life away - you won't anybody else's.
Lem said... if Trump is the only person who people believe can stop it, why doesn't he stop it now?
Roesch, If you want an example of what “thinking in simplistic terms” looks like, here it is.
Serious Question
If we stipulate, that
a) “These people don’t represent our movement.”
b) These are "mostly peaceful protests"
WHAT, Exactly, is it that is being protested again?
The Protests are now continuous... What is the point?
I mean, if you're protesting; you have to be protesting SOMETHING, right?
What is it? What would it take, for the "mostly peaceful protests" to end?
People are extraordinarily good at rationalization. But if we could strip
away the rationalization, I think that most people voting for the Democratic
Party really do support these riots.
Now there people that (a) genuinely hate these riots and the kind of thinking
that leads to them and (b) genuinely hate Trump.
There are also people that in their hearts, never mind what they say, have
(a) genuinely supported the riots and the kind of thinking that leads to
them and (b) genuinely hated Trump.
Now both kinds of people exist, but I think the great majority will actually
be in the second camp.
But having said that, there are still enough people who are genuinely horrified
at what has occurred in St. Paul, Madison, and Kenosha so that if the Democrats
do 'win' in Wisconsin or Minnesota, then that will have only been possible
through vote fraud. And the same can be said for a great many other states.
They are your movement.
"Guess it's acceptable...."
It's been said thousands of times on here that the decade of leftist bullying in the streets would lead to violence from others.
Kick them to the curb then, but that ain’t happening, is it?
Show me all of the press denunciations in the MSM of antifa, though they sure seem to be de-emphasizing them lately. Isn’t the kind of rabble rousing that MSNBC and CNN have been doing with false charges and constant repetition that Republicans are like Hitler’s “Juden," conspiring against America and serving foreign powers, how the genocide in Rwanda got started?
"What kind of ass-backwards idiocy would make someone believe that re-electing Trump will prevent more of the violence that has exploded during the Trump presidency? LOL.”
"The riots will continue until you vote the way we want." We clearly understand your message and don’t like it. Democracy ain’t perfect, but whatever you have cooked up to replace it is guaranteed to be worse.
"...you lied to us and everybody knows it."
You (singular) are delusional.
What kind of ass-backwards idiocy would make someone believe that re-electing Trump will prevent more of the violence that has exploded during the Trump presidency? LOL.
Well, your premise that the cretinous Democratic politicians encouraging the violence are indifferent to human suffering is certainly correct, but Trump’s re-election would show the political benefit to opposing violence.
They mostly come out at night, from their parent's basement, mostly ~Newt
@ Zachary Sire....who came to Kenosha from Illinois.....
As did Jacob Blake, the guy shot by the cop.
Since you appear to be some kind of moron, I will educate you to the fact that Kenosha is close to the WI/IL border. The young fella is from Antioch, 20 miles away. The victim of the police shooting hailed from Des Plaines, IL, 50 miles away. In that area of the country, it is not unheard of to commute 50 miles to work.
Y'all bullshitted my life away - you won't anybody else's.
Disagree. What we said (metaphorically speaking) was that if people put in the effort, they can succeed. To many people decided it was better to vote for motivation-destroying freebies instead.
But, if Trump is the only person who people believe can stop it, why doesn't he stop it now?
Because he is not a Dictator? He has to be asked in.
Sebastian "They're with you."
Only one question for the nice women of America: are you with them?
Well, that leaves me out. I am not a "nice" woman.
My husband always says, jokingly, that I am a mean mean woman and he likes it that way. I think he is joking 😉 He'd better be!
I am about to overdose on schadenfreude. This couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch of self-righteous imbeciles.
Anyone who thinks this ends when Biden gets elected is beyond stupid.
One might consider that having been tazed, (being non-lethal option), that the next step might just mean suicide by cop. Lots of rioters complained when hit by rubber bullets. Crucial matter is, rioters don't get to decide where the protest/riot line gets crossed. Stupid games wins stupid prizes.
Define: Resisting a Lawful Order
Crack, if you're near 60, you should realize the stupidity of saying "you won't anybody else's."
Or maybe you're just a old fool.
The complex argument that Voltaire is searching for is that the looting and destruction will push people into the Biden Camp.
democrat party sanctioned arson and property destruction.
Straight up.
"people are gonna do what they are gonna do" - Pelosi
"Y'all bullshitted my life away"
LOL
What were you? A spectator?
I mean, you probably weren't a spectator when you helped a crew or two whup up on a high achieving "acting white" black, but for the rest of your life I'm guessing yeah, a spectator.
Blogger rcocean said...
...
Wouldn't it be crazy if Biden and the D's win and this becomes the new normal for the next four years?
8/26/20, 8:35 PM
It won't, I don't think. The Democrat Gestapo (sic) and the Media will suppress all of these actions, using force, if necessary. Simply to demonstrate that Trump is the problem and those that supported him.
Ironically, the people who are affected by the violence, and those who feel disenfranchised, were the source the initial protests, will find their lives actually much, much worse off: while being told that things are now going great and 'getting back to normal'.
“ The basic defect of leftist ideas is always the unintended consequence. That's giving these assholes credit for having an intended consequence. Which they couldn't articulate if you gave them an hour and a dictionary.”
I break it down into several categories: the evil people, the ignorant people, and the stupid people. The fundamentals for the rioting have been in place for at least much of the last year. We saw AntiFA and their Black Bloc buddies organizing for this last fall, after the rioting last year. There is Soros money behind it, and I wouldn’t be surprised to find ChiCom money too. Their goal is to destroy the US from within. This is part of a Marxist plan that the Soviets pushed here when Ann and I were in college, and against the Nazis back in the early 1930s. I believe the people funding and organizing the violent rioting are evil. Their goal has nothing really to do with systemic racism or police brutality, but, rather, seeks to destroy this country, using the illusion of that systemic racism and police brutality and replace it with something that most in this country would consider far worse.
Then there are the rest, the sheeple. On the bottom, you have a group of high school dropouts with IQs well below 100. Best you can do there is to re-educate or lock up those using them as shock troops. But there are probably a lot more who are engaging in this rioting, inciting those who can’t really know better, or, like much of the Dem Party leadership, giving tacit approval.
I don’t think that the Dem Congressional leadership, when they put on kente stoles and knelt for BLM, were seriously worried about police violence against Blacks. Instead, they did it seeing that they could garner more power by pandering to those stupid enough to actually believe that there is any significant racism these days remaining in the well integrated large city police departments. The police, when allowed and encouraged to do their jobs, have an anti-criminal bias, not an anti-black bias (notably pretty much every BLM martyr was a criminal, and Black officers were often involved in their deaths). It just so happens that those Dems extended their slavery and Jim Crow power over Blacks by destroying their families, through their ill advised War on Poverty.
Ok, maybe I should have put Dem leadership into the evil category, quietly encouraging the violence in order to gain and maintain power.
Much of the middle seems to be dissatisfied youths, primarily white, middle class, and often college educated, but often with unusable or socially disruptive degrees (e.g. gender studies, etc). They are often mad at society, or they just seek excitement, and see no bad consequences in destroying the society rich enough that they can destroy instead of build. Because of our wealth, they have never really had to grow up, settle down, get a good job, and raise a family. They can be settled down fairly quickly - through having the shit beat out of them, or being sentenced to long prison terms. Right now, it is still a big game for them. When that stops, most of them will. It probably wouldn’t take that many lily white kids being placed in gen pop (With an organized crime tag) in a medium security prison, amongst the black, Hispanic, and even Asian gangs, to make them give it up. Note, BTW, that it is the Soros funded DAs who have been the most aggressive making sure that doesn’t happen.
Just like Trump is fighting the Democrats, the Republican Party AND the Never Trumper conservatives, blacks are fighting several groups at once as well - and it's a war of attrition, so who gets hurt is beside the point:
Crack, the perennial loser thinks blacks are "fighting a war of attrition." Since blacks are 13% of the population and black men (although we see lots of violence from young black women) are 6%, I guess that war of attrition is not looking good for you.
Of course, you could go to Africa but, I understand that African countries want no part of dysfunctional American blacks. Furthermore, Crack says "burn them down too" to the 35% of blacks that are suburban middle class, so the war of attrition looks even worse. Another loser.
it is the Soros funded DAs who have been the most aggressive making sure that doesn’t happen.
That's why these creeps need to be prosecuted by DoJ for civil rights violations using the technique Clinton used to inflict double jeopardy on the LAPD cops in 1992. Just bypass the Soros DAs.
Uhhh...last time I checked, Trump is currently the president, and therefore this is Trump's America right now. By the MAGA clowns own logic, Trump caused this.
I see we have a new left wing troll but at least his profile tells us he is a writer in California. What do you write for Zachary ?
Is it not possible, or even likely, that the anarchists and thugs would prefer to see Trump re-elected?
If you want to believe you are fighting oppression, which oppressor would make a better antagonist? Donald Trump, who punches back, or a squish like Joe Biden?
"These people" don't merely represent the movement, they ARE the movement.
After all, what is a "Movement" if not the people in it?
They DO represent the movement.
They're on your side!
I'm on your side!
I'm on their side!
They're on my side!
You're on their side!
Fucking pronouns, man.
"Windows of businesses and residential buildings being smashed on University Avenue — which were not preemptively boarded up. This Papa John’s employee asks protesters, “Do you want Trump to be elected?” The "protesters" aren't smart enough to know this.
We, us. Those are GOP branded, at least in 2020. They/them/you, that's the Dem brand lately.
“Since you appear to be some kind of moron“
He goes way back re this blog.
Memorable disagreements w/ Palladian. Good music recommendations. Lots of other stuff, too.
IMHO.
Remind the dumb woman in the video that:
ACAB = All Cops Are Bastards
Therefore:
APAL - All Protesters Are Looters
Right?
Most marching with BLM & Antifa are too stupid to remember to breath.
The problem is that most of us know exactly how to stop the violence or at least those of us who have been at least somewhat successful raising children. Or cats. We got a cat two years ago, or to be more accurate, I pointed out the Free Kittens sign outside the grocery store, and let nature take its course. When he was a kitten, we thought he was so cute when he would fit inside her purse, or beg for food on the table. She had sworn she would never let a cat on her pristine counters or table. Suffice it to say, that he considers both his territory now. He loves nipping at her bare feet, or even, much of the time, when she is just wearing socks. He also loves drawing blood from her wrists to punish her for imagined affronts. It is very clear who is training whom in the family. But he doesn’t nip at my ankles, or my wrists. He, of course, tried. And flew a couple feet, each time. And nipped at my face on night as a kitten, and ended up swatted off the bed. He and I have a good relationship. When he wants affection, I give it to him. When he wants table scraps, he gets them - on the floor. And when he nips at my ankles, etc, he goes airborne. He doesn’t like that, so doesn’t do it. She, of course, can’t bring herself to do that. Instead, she will hold his head, and sternly inform him that he was a bad boy, and not to do it again. But, of course, he does. And tries to make me the disciplinarian. But that often doesn’t work, because the consequences of bad behavior are not swift and direct.
Kids are like cats in that respect. Most only put their hand once on or by a hot burner, or Bobby pins in an electric socket, once. We learn very quickly not to do something, if there are adverse consequences. Most of us learn that sort of thing faster than cats do.
So, what is the relevance here? AntiFA Commie Scum, along with their BLM Marxist brethren, started small, broke the law in their rioting. They got away with it. They weren’t arrested, but were extolled by the Dems in DC. They upped the ante, upped their law breaking and criminality. When they got arrested for their crimes, the Soros funded prosecutors wouldn’t prosecute their cases. So they upped the ante some more. Etc. Now we have the routine commission by some of them of violent, very serious, felonies, with impunity. They are actively trying to kill or maim police officers, and in other circumstances, would be facing decades of prison time for it. But it furthers Marxist, and up until now, Dem Party, goals, so is excused.
We all know the solution - enforce the law, and lock them up as they would be if their law breaking weren’t so useful to powerful Democrats (and Marxists like Soros). Kick them across the room when they nip at your ankles, and put them in prison marked as violent criminals with gang affiliations (which they effectively are). Do that to the ring leaders, and the violent rioting will stop almost overnight. They wont be seen as cool justice warriors, but as stupid idiots who assaulted the police, and loved to go to prison for it. They should be treated like the adults that they should be, by their ages, and if they are, they will quickly learn not to do what they shouldn’t.
You don't get to choose how you are perceived, although we do influence it in the way we speak, I think mostly in our use of pronouns, because the rest of the words are just intellectualized decoration for your inner thoughts and feelings.
On the bright side, this location is prime for a Satya commissioned art installation. Good for plywood companies, bad for glass repair folks.
Crack thinks he will be dead soon and he wants to take the country with him.
That's some definite bullshit..y'all. I remember an article on him someone here linked to. He said once an addict, always an addict.
Addicted to victimhood.
"I see we have a new left wing troll"
ZPS isn't new; he's one of the lefties that only shows up in presidential election years to hector the deplorables.
You can't spell Bowel Movement without BLM.
Narr
Go ahead, spread it around
"Those people don't represent our movement."
My response: "Represent it? Your movement is defined completely by those people."
And like the shop owner, I worry that this is pushing people who think in simplistic terms into the Trump camp. r/v
And that's your problem, right there. You're not opposed to the violence and mayhem your side is unleashing on America. You're concerned the violence and mayhem your side is unleashing on America may cause some people to vote the 'wrong' way.
Blogger Unknown said..."...Don Lemon admitted the riots are costing Dems. Biden got no bounce from the Cringevention..." 8/26/20, 9:26 PM
Actually, Biden got a bounce but it was negative.
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-seemingly-didnt-convention-polling-141300982.html
"Those people don't represent our movement."
Registered Democrats gotta do what they gotta do. And if the registered Democrats aren't in the street smashing windows, they're in governor mansions and city governments giving support to the party members in the streets.
Blogger The Crack Emcee said..."...Fuck y'all: you lied to us and everybody knows it.
8/27/20, 1:05 AM
Crack - could it be that "...you lied..." to yourself?
"....The Worst Part About Fake ‘Anti-Racism’ Is That It Forces Us To Live Lies..."
https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/27/the-worst-part-about-fake-anti-racism-is-that-it-forces-us-to-live-lies/
ACAB = All Cops Are Bastards
Honestly thought that was Assigned Colored at Birth.
ZPS isn't new
Welcome back!
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