March 21, 2020

"If it were up to me, and it's not, I would stop putting those briefings on live TV. Not out of spite but because it's misinformation."

"If the president does end up saying anything true, you can run it as tape but if he keeps lying like this every day on stuff this important, all of us should stop broadcasting it. Honestly, it's gonna cost lives."

Said Rachel Maddow — to whom it is not up, who can safely indulge in that figure of speech — quoted in "MSNBC's Maddow wants Trump kept off TV, blasts 'fairytale' news briefings" (Fox News).

That's being made a thing of on Twitter I see, and I really don't care. Do you?

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BADuBois said...

Is this the same Rachel Maddow that spent an entire day promising a "bombshell" that she had Trump's tax returns? Which turned out to be a nothing-burger?

Just checking.

Mike Sylwester said...

Rachel Maddow was the prominent spokesperson for the Intelligence Community leaders who peddled the RussiaGate hoax.

Francisco D said...

I have often suspected that Rachel Maddow is the source of Lil' Chuckles' inputs here.

I imagine him sitting in a drooling stupor as he looks on while Rachel does her schpiel (at $10 million a year).

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

LOL - Maddow complaining about "mis-information."


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

exhelodrvr1 said...

Unfortunately, it does matter when she does this, because she is feeding the TDS sufferers, who are doing great damage to our country.

Gahrie said...

Has Rachel ever apologized about lying about Russian collusion?

Howard said...

Rachel is trying to recapture her rising Star, but the world has moved on.

narciso said...

Andy slavitts meltdown agitated craig fugage.

Sebastian said...

"I really don't care. Do you?"

I do. I understand progs keep fighting, and I want us to fight back. I understand that they don't want a crisis to go to waste, and I plan to #Resist. I don't have the luxury not to care.

But actually, I think Althouse does care a bit, perhaps not about Maddow et al. but about the state of the culture and the country, and this blog plays a part in the struggle, a positive part.

tim in vermont said...

Like everybody else it’s happened to, the press hates being disintermediated. <<-- Why isn’t that a word yet?

Plus POTUS’s poll numbers have ‘em shitting pickles.

narciso said...

On a similar note they are streaming films like bloodshot that no one wanted to watch in the first place, possibly diesels most cringe worthy performance since babylon ad.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

A leftwing apparatchik wants the leader of the free-world muzzled so she can lie to her hivemind for 10 million dollars a year.

Obey!

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Bilwick said...

The Left complaining about misinformation: priceless.

narciso said...

Which was based on a quirky french novel, now the world of riddick, briefly ventured in chronicles was interesting.

David Begley said...

If it were up to me, MSNBC would be dark today.

DarkHelmet said...

Let's see . . . pay attention to what Trump and his staff say in briefings or pay attention to Rachel Maddow . . .

Trump versus Maddow . . .
Trump versus Maddow . . .
Hmm, hmm . . .

You know, this is sort of like, should I eat pizza or rat poison? One of those challenging choices. So difficult.

narciso said...

otoh

wendybar said...

If it were up to me, MSNBC would shutter up and close down. They spread fake news daily!!

DarkHelmet said...

Disintermediated is indeed a word and it's happening Bigly to the press. They brought it upon themselves.

Mike Sylwester said...

Reporters
President Trump, what do you say to the millions of people who are afraid because of this epidemic?

=====

Variant A

I say to them that they should feel more assured that our public-health workers are working as effectively as possible to cope with the epidemic.

Reporters
Trump is pushing false optimism !!!

=====

Variant B

I say to them that indeed the epidemic might become much worse.

Reporters
Trump is pushing panic !!!

Gusty Winds said...

What is the "misinformation"? That hydroxychloroquine could be a game changer? It could be. And the President was right to tell Americans about it. If it is effective it will roll out quickly.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Rachel Maddow’s Deep Delusion

Really - Rachel Maddow is a cancer on the journalism. She is the lead tumor.

Mark said...

The ugliness of the Maddows and other leftists is truly bent on destroying society.

Jim said...

maddow has done great harm. And let's not romanticize this, she isn't looking for truth. She is trying to destroy Trump, and his supporters. She is never questioned about the things she gets wrong. She just invents a new theory, and plows ahead. the angry snarky superior lesbian routine is old too.
Has she been right about anything? has anything she has ever done been helpful? I'm asking, as I get sick to my stomach watching her act. Has she done anything that would make her a real journalist? If so, please link it or whatever. Otherwise, we are just supporting a corrupt, greedy, angry and fake person, whose interest is hurting others.
This seems to be a good standard. Is it helpful. If you are looking to hide the truth, smear 1/2 country, and invent a new hysteria every single damn day, the feminist icon maddow is your girl.
is it helpful. ?

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Sees a “Russia Connection” Lurking Around Every Corner

If you don't buy Rachel's lies - you are a Russian asset.


Bay Area Guy said...

Rachel Maddow can politely go fuck herself.

Fernandinande said...

Without pointless studying of the stupid article, the only actual quote from Trump is: he used the word "effective".

But no problemo, they made up some fake quotes to disagree with:

"But the president loves saying things like, you know, 'There's a drug we've got and it's very effective. It's approved already! Everybody's gonna get it.'"

rcocean said...

Yeah, its not like she said something awful, like "Chinese Virus", she just called the POTUS a liar and stated the Press should not carry his Press Conferences in a time of crisis.

Yep, its a big nothing. And she has the most popular MSNBC news show, and obviously speaks with the approval of the MSNBC and NBC news executives. Other than the fact her views represent the people who control 2 of the 6 major TV News networks, yep its no big whoop. If there a Republican party that cared about anything other than pleasing the Chamber of Commerce, Maddow would be facing some massive pushback.

Michael K said...

You can feel the flop sweat.

Mark said...

Time to do the Harry Mudd thing with Norman.

Maddow: "Everything Trump says is a lie."
Trump: "Listen carefully Rachel -- I'm lying."

chickelit said...

Rachel Maddow is a meat puppet for Chinese drabwear. Seriously, must everything she wears look so Maoist?

rcocean said...

It really get tiresome saying "If the positions were reversed, and someone at Fox News said Biden's Press Conferences shouldn't be carried, because he's a liar, people would react differently".

Limbaugh has talked about this for years. How the sainted "Moderates" never get upset at anything the Left does to the Right, but get all upset and anxious when the Republicans/Conservatives counter-attack the Left. Trump is supposed to be silent when he gets called Nazi, Racist, bigot, Liar, etc.

rcocean said...

Maddow is a Chi-com asset.

Fernandinande said...

Mar 19:

"A new study whose results were published in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents has found early evidence that the combination of hydroxychloroquine, a popular anti-malaria drug known under the trade name Plaqenuil, and antibiotic azithromycin (aka Zithromax or Azithrocin) could be especially effective in treating the COVID-19 coronavirus and reducing the duration of the virus in patients."

Mar 20:
"The pharmacological activity of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine was tested using SARS-CoV-2–infected Vero cells. ...
Based on PBPK models, the authors recommend a loading dose of hydroxychloroquine 400 mg PO BID, followed by 200 mg BID for 4 days."

And yet
When reporters asked Tony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, whether the drug hydroxychloroquine was effective at preventing coronavirus, he said simply: “The answer is no.”
... [then Fauci contradicts himself]:
“What I’m saying is that it might be effective,” Fauci said.

rcocean said...

Trump speaks about the virus. IS he..

a) Spreading false optimism
b) Leaving people without hope or assurance
c) Lying
D) all of the above.

Trump has a press conference. should the press:

a) fact check him real-time because he's a liar
b) refuse to carry it because he's a liar
c) Use the opportunity to help Joe Biden
d) All of the above.

Leland said...

It is up to me, and Rachel Maddow isn't on my TV.

rcocean said...

The Drug is useful in treating the disease. It may not prevent the disease. If you'd watched the last press conference, you'd see that Dr. Fuci said it MIGHT work. Its worked in the lab, but as he pointed out, its not PROVEN to work. And even if it works, their could be side-effects. Because you just don't know till its been studied.

Gusty Winds said...

Trump is tweeting out HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN this morning. He wants it out there fast. He's going all in. Interesting press briefing coming up at 12:30 Est. Somebody it telling him it works...

Sam L. said...

Why should I trust anything Maddow says (or writes)?

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

One Maddow show during her personal 10 million dollar a year crusade to take down Trump with a lie.

RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA. This is just ONE show.

FleetUSA said...

I've been calling her Madcow since the 2016 election.

Night Owl said...

Who is still watching that woman? If we lived in a saner time Maddow's show would've been canceled by now due to low ratings. Or at least moved to Comedy Central.

How's the ratings of the fake news networks in general? Maybe they're losing their minds because Trump's ratings go up while theirs go down.

narciso said...

some more data

Big Mike said...

If organizations like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC stop carrying Trump’s press conferences, We the people will find them somehow. If not Fox then some online source. What that does to their viewership is their problem.

tim maguire said...

The biggest reason Rachel Maddow can get away with saying something so irresponsible and stupid is that, outside of her relentlessly shrinking bubble, nobody cares what Rachel Maddow says about anything anymore. She is irrelevant.

Ken B said...

Depends what you mean by don’t care.
I don’t value her assessment. I don’t think she is “helping” and I don’t believe her. To that extent — concern with her assertions — I don’t care.
I confess though I am really bothered and angered by the behavior of the media, and in a way I wasn’t before. Before I contemned and shrugged. I am feeling a bit more punitive now. That might not be a good thing, shrugging might be better. To that extent I care.

Ken B said...

It’s worth googling old Glenn Greenwald columns on Maddow's Russia lies.

Ice Nine said...

When you see the words "Maddow" and "Trump" in the same sentence, it is a flashing red light signal to stop reading immediately.

No, wait, scratch that "Trump" part.

narciso said...

Remember the summer of shark attacks and chandra levy?

William said...

Maddow has been consistently wrong on a number of issue over a number of years. I don't think she's lost any viewers because of it. People tune in for the hostility not the information or wisdom.. The plus side for Trump is that she only preaches to the true believers. I can't imagine anyone refining or changing their opinion because of what she says. Statements of such overt bias as the above are more likely to engender sympathy than hatred for Trump......I think it would be wise for all public officials and media types to downplay the politics for a few weeks. When the all clear signal blows, there will be plenty of time for blaming and shaming.

Mark said...

HOW DARE YOU BE OPTIMISTIC AND HOPEFUL!

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Temujin said...

If Rachel had her way we would all be in indoctrination camps. All news would be censored to that only which was approved by people like Rachel. I know what people like Rachel Maddow would do if they had their way. There's a lot of history behind them.

Night Owl said...

Althouse recently criticized Fox news for saying the Leftist news are out to hurt Trump. She says it's not helpful.

Yet it's clear that the fake news media ARE out to hurt Trump, and they don't care if in the process they hurt the country. They need to be condemned. Strongly.

In January, while our President was dealing with a phony impeachment AND taking criticism for leading us into WW III with Iran-- remember that one?-- he still had the wisdom to shut down flights from China. And he was condemned by leftists. Yet that one act probably saved thousands of Americans.

I'm only trying to be helpful when I say this: the fake news -- and that includes Biden and his fake news briefings-- would be doing this country a lot less harm if they'd all just go fuck themselves

robother said...

"This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

Lie after lie! Where are the fact checkers?

1. This is NOT a great Nation, founded only to enable slavery.

2. The "ONLY thing we have to fear?: C'mon man, stocks a tanking, jobs are vanishing, disease, famine and war... People are right to be fearful, indeed the problem is they're not fearful enough!

Why are the networks broadcasting these FDR fireside propaganda?

rhhardin said...

to whom it is not up to

who it is not up to. Go for informal register.

rcocean said...

Here's the kind of idiot Left-wing question that Trump has to put up with (from yesterday) from a "reporter":

I’ll just follow up. Nearly 200 dead. What do you say to Americans who are scared, though? I guess, nearly 200 dead; 14,000 who are sick; millions, as you witness, who are scared right now. What do you say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared?

And here's Trump's perfect response:

THE PRESIDENT: I say that you’re a terrible reporter. That’s what I say.
Go ahead....I think it’s a very nasty question, and I think it’s a very bad signal that you’re putting out to the American people. The American people are looking for answers and they’re looking for hope. And you’re doing sensationalism, and the same with NBC and “Con-cast.” I don’t call it — I don’t call it “Comcast,” I call it “Con-cas

Jersey Fled said...

Japan, South Korea, France, and China are all using hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19 on at least an experimental basis. Probably some other countries as well that I haven't heard about. And they aren't doing it because Trump mentioned it on his daily press briefing.

Maddow still owes us for three years of inuendo, misinformation, exaggeration, and outright lies about Russian collusion.

Why would anyone want to listen to her.

rcocean said...

Look, the LEft, the DNC-Media, and the Democrats NEVER let a crisis go to waste. They NEVER stop playing politics. They did it with 911, they did it with the Iraq War, and they did it Katrina, and with the financial crisis of 2008.

Every crisis is an opportunity for them to "push the narrative", help the Democrats, and hurt Trump or the Republicans. Expecting them to be adults or patriotic is a waste of time. They're always liberal/leftists first, and care about the country second, if at all. They only want UNITY when they are in power.

Night Owl said...

And to be clear, I'm not saying that the fake news should be shut down by anything other than low ratings. I'm saying that those who criticize them should not be scolded that "you're not helping". Fuck that civility bullshit.

Chuck said...

Althouse I think that Maddow’s editorializing was inspired by Jay Rosen of NYU. A day earlier, this Twitter thread authored by Rosen was retweeted by George Conway and so got some rapid wide attention:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/1241134142991073280

Intellectually, I agree with Rosen, and Maddow. But I confess to wanting to watch Trump on tv, with my laptop open or with my phone in hand, following along as Daniel Dale, Aaron Rupar and others fact-check Trump in real time.

Much like watching a NASCAR race, waiting for a horrific crash.

Drago said...

Ken B: "It’s worth googling old Glenn Greenwald columns on Maddow's Russia lies."

Aaron Mate's columns are good too. But the absolute best of the best Maddow deconstructions can be found on Youtube and they are done by Jimmy Dore with usually a couple guests, sometimes Mate.

Drago said...

OMG!

LLR-lefty ChiCom Chuck is STILL trying to pretend Mr. Kellyanne Conway is a thing?

LOL

Michael The Magnificent said...

Hey Rachel, please tell us more about "Russian Collusion."

Talk about spinning fairy tales and misinformation.

doctrev said...

I'm quite enthusiastic for Maddow's idea, actually. The minute the networks stop broadcasting the President's conferences to keep Americans informed, substituting their own terrible judgment and ass-covering, the majority of the country will realize it's time to take action. Seize the buildings and equipment, terminate the front-facing talent/ network executives, and begin broadcasting some unspun truth. You won't even have to do it to all of them: once one channel collapses and people start watching the successor, the others will fall into line.

The lugenpresse is the foremost enemy of the American people.

Lucien said...

Allowing my political opponents airtime is a threat to public health!

At least she didn't say "It's for the children", or "He's not helping".

narciso said...

in other words

Drago said...

George Conway is still bitter he did not get that job in the Trump admin that he begged and begged and begged for.

Bruce Hayden said...

“If organizations like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC stop carrying Trump’s press conferences, We the people will find them somehow. If not Fox then some online source. What that does to their viewership is their problem”

That is the problem for them. They don’t like giving Trump all this free campaign coverage. But pulling 5he plug will kill their ratings, because this is a real crisis, and the best information comes out of those news conferences. Fox is likely to stay in, because part of their business strategy is still to broadcast what the other networks won’t, for highly partisan reasons. The Murdock boys may not like Trump, or the Republicans, as much as their father did, but contrary to the other networks, their news division appears to make money. And CSPAN doesn’t really have a choice.

I have little doubt that these other news networks would much rather be counter programming against Trump, with an election coming up in November. But this a crisis, and what they would need to do would be to reduce the public’s confidence in how Trump is handling the crisis. First, most people prefer being calmed than panicked at such a time. And those who do get panicked by, for example, watching Madcow instead of Trump, are going to do stupid things, and eventually get called out for it. And maybe get the disease. And that means that these networks will ultimately be called out by Trump, etc, for it. Which just reinforces that smart people should be going to the source, the daily news briefings by Trump and his team, instead of listening to libtard people on the news networks spewing idiocy.

There is a saying that if you aren’t part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. The left wing news networks cannot afford to be seen as part of the problem, in a time of crisis. Their ratings losses would likely be long lasting, if not permanent. They all seem to share a common problem, of being money losers, with corporate ownership with few ties to news reporting. For example, Disney is going to get absolutely hammered during this crisis, with their theme parks around the world shuttered, along with the theaters that would normally showcase their new movies. Can they afford to add to the red ink, by not carrying the briefings, and permanently losing viewership? And it’s partially the IBM problem. During the 1970s and 1980s IBM rarely had the best technology with their mainframes, esp when it came to software. Yet, they maintained their monopoly because of the adage that no one was ever fired for buying IBM over their competitors. It was almost always the expensive solution, but more importantly, it was the safe choice. The safe choice here is to stick with broadcasting the Wuhan Coronavirus press conferences for the meantime, and not risk low ratings, and a panicking corporate board of directors, under significant fiscal pressure, looking their way for cost cutting opportunities. At least for awhile longer.

rightguy said...

President Trump is on live TV everyday demonstrating that he is fully engaged with the covid-19 epidemic, and is doing everything possible to combat it. If we are successful in suppressing the epidemic in the US, he will be seen -accurately- as the leader of that successful effort. Orange Man Good ! (Horrifying thought for Maddow.)

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Breaking:

Adam Schitt(D-CA)
will now draft articles of impeachment because Trump was busy being impeached for mentioning Joe Biden's international family money whoring and while Trump was busy being impeached while a virus in China was percolating in the population in Wuhan and the head of the intelligence Committee (Adam Schitt D-CA) did nothing about the virus because he was impeaching Trump. Impeach!

chuck said...

No, I don't care, Maddow is nuts. Smart, but nuts. The combination isn't at all unusual.

Michael K said...

Why would anyone want to listen to her.

Ask Chuck. The result would be like asking a vegan why they don't eat meat. You would have to run away to keep your sanity.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

The best way to prove the HACK-D PRESS is the HACK D-PRESS?

Refuse to cover the President they hate. Pretty sure that will do it.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

or this

Bob Smith said...

Rachel has some current and former colleagues like Brian (there I was with McArthur) Williams and and Chris (sure you can be on my show, just give my wife’s campaign some money) Matthews. If she’s concerned about honesty she needs to look a little closer to home.

Bob Smith said...

While I’m at it somebody go ask Chuck Todd what his wife does for a living.

Fernandinande said...

"What do you say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared? "

I'd say (if I had time to think about it...):

"Less than 200 people dead! (in a month? longer?)

In a typical year flu kills 1,000 to 5,000 people per month (avg over year) - why are you trying to scare people by talking about 200 deaths? And there are 9 million to 45 million cases of flu each year. The 14,000 covid cases are a very tiny fraction of what happens every flu season." (so far, that fraction is about 1/1000)


If anything, I'm a-scared of what the panic will cause, and is already causing.

Night Owl said...

If anything, I'm a-scared of what the panic will cause, and is already causing.

So am I.

The fake news media want to turn this into Trump's Katrina moment. But they forget that Katrina also revealed how awful the media reporting was-- with their stories of cannibalism that turned out to be fake news. It was not their shining moment. They were the opposite of helpful. Just like now with their desire to induce panic while Trump is urging for calm and hope. Trump called them the enemy of the people, and they are acting like it.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

It is over for Trump, he is a failed president. He blew up the deficit, talked up a stock market bubble and failed to prepare for a pandemic. All these actions make the consequences of this pandemic vastly worse. How completely does he have to fail before you acknowledge his failure?

tim in vermont said...

"following along as Daniel Dale, Aaron Rupar and others fact-check Trump in real time.”

That’s good Chuck. If I were cognitively limited, I would make sure to have somebody opinion check... err, I mean fack check everything I hear too. Real time talking points. Brilliant.

If you just watched the pressers, they would make sense and make Trump look good, so you need this kind of intellectual prophylactic to protect your TDS from contamination, after having seen the way his words are contaminating so many of your erstwhile allies and wittnissing his numbers climb.

Ostrich strategy is definitely the best for you.

Francisco D said...

Put down the bong ARM and walk away.

tim in vermont said...

ARM, tell us again how the US has been overspending on health care. We always liked that one. Explain why Italy’s model is so much better than ours.

Gahrie said...

How completely does he have to fail before you acknowledge his failure?

If the world was destroyed tomorrow, and it was completely Trump's fault, he still wouldn't be a failure because he beat Hillary. Which is precisely why you Leftwing moonbats hate him so much.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Prediction:

Our corrupt hack-D press will junk Trump, cancel the November election and install Biden and his "team" now.

Jon Burack said...

Aside from finding it utterly insane and borderline treasonous, no I do not care.

Tomcc said...

"Not out of spite..."
Perish the thought!

jeff said...

I don’t mean this as a personal attack but has anyone ever seen (enter proper pronoun here) ware anything other than black? What’s with that? Never grow out of Goth look?

Night Owl said...

That's being made a thing of on Twitter I see, and I really don't care. Do you?

I don't care what Maddow has to say, but I do care that the majority of our so-called mainstream media are trying to stir up panic in the country because they wish to harm a republican president.

While I and many others stopped watching cable and tv news years ago, a lot of people still listen to these idiots in the media. I'm glad there is an internet, social media and alternative news sources to counter the voices of lunacy in the MSM.

YoungHegelian said...

@Beloved Commenter ARM,

He blew up the deficit, talked up a stock market bubble and failed to prepare for a pandemic

What?

He blew up the deficit

Last I remember Congress was in charge of the Federal purse.

talked up a stock market bubble

You mean, a market humming along at historic highs with an economy firing on all cylinders that got crashed by a black swan event, i.e. a global pandemic?

failed to prepare for a pandemic

And what country in the world was prepared for the pandemic? How can Trump alone be held responsible? ....Bueller?

I'm sorry, ARM, but you can do better than this.

caplight45 said...

Rachel who?

Crazy Jane said...

Most people have these things called "lives," in which political food fights are, at best, secondary considerations.

If this virus is really as consequential as World War II (which I doubt but which keeps getting described as such in the press), why don't these gasbags give it a rest for a month or so?

exhelodrvr1 said...

Waiting for the media to hammer Gov Cuomo for saying a lot of the same things Pres Trump did yesterday

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

“It would be nice if the office was still there”
Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised

Lies about coronavirus
Damning Supercut Of Trump’s Lies About Coronavirus

Coronavirus crisis exposes years of failure

Intelligence officials' early alarms about possible pandemic went unheeded

It was all lies:
Trump promised to bring back manufacturing in Pennsylvania. He didn’t. Will it cost him?

And Republican senators lied as well.
Senator Dumped Up to $1.6 Million of Stock After Reassuring Public About Coronavirus Preparedness

Two Republican Presidents in a row have completely botched the challenges they faced and destroyed the credibility of themselves and their party. A comprehensive failure.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

What did Obama/ Biden do, ARM - to help us with this crisis?

tcrosse said...

I'm sorry, ARM, but you can do better than this.

No, he can't

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Gregg Hurwitz said...

"Like most choices born of rage, this one was foolish and toxic and self-defeating. And many of his voters—deep down—knew that too, even at the time. But they were pissed off enough that it felt worth it to put a self-defined un-expert in the Oval Office."

Drago said...

ARM: "Gregg Hurwitz said..."

OMG!

Gregg Hurwitz!

The Walls Are Now, Surely, Closing In.

Drago said...

ARM is STILL pushing the NSC Pandemic Unit Lie!!

LOL

Well why not really? It's just another rung on the ladder of ChiCom suck-uppery.

narciso said...

it's like the trash compactor, on the death star,

Spiros said...

Countries in Africa and South America are not doing anything to prevent the spread of Covid 19. If you include the Philippines and Pakistan, we're talking about two billion people. This is a huge social experiment that the press should be talking about. If these psycho journalists are right, these countries will have staggering death tolls. If they are wrong, the current lockdown will be the greatest fiasco in our country's history.

I think they're wrong. I think a true accounting of this disease will reveal a small fatality rate. What then? What do we do to people like Governor Pritzker and Cuomo who acted on hunches? And what is Donald Trump's responsibility if this ends up being a massive charade?

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

The left look at their leaders as super-heroes.

Obama did nothing to stop the spread of H1N1 - but that doesn't stop the blind faithful from adoring their super-hero.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

ARM - the left's experts are all mostly crooks.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Who could fail to be impressed by his understanding of the crisis he has to handle:

Clueless president speaks.

Jim said...

read a couple posts from the leftist troll cohort. It could have been from 2, 3, 4 years ago. Have things gotten so bad for those folks that they can't come up with anything more timely? Or has maddow not been on today? Usually things really start jumping when her or one of her chosen toadies 'find' some new news.
Meanwhile, the rest of us are doing what we can to make things better, and listening to those in government who are doing the same. On either side of the aisle.
The left seems addicted to the hate all, fuck all model. Doesn't require a lot of thought, easy to reinforce via injections from msmbc etc. they can run for days parroting the same thing as the other. bots.
What did you do during the corona virus time? oh, posted hateful comments, lied repeatedly, trashed people who actually were trying to make things better. well, thanks for your service asshats.
maybe maddow will give you an angry lesbian pin to wear while you watch her.

tcrosse said...

It's plain that the objections are not to anything Trump did or didn't do, but that it's Trump that did or didn't do them. Bullshit.

narciso said...

that is a curious thing, there are a cluster of cases in Saudi, in the emirates, but nowhere near you'd expect, it would be disastrous in sub-Saharan Africa, as we discovered in sub-Saharan Africa in 2014,

Drago said...

Has ARM taken back his NSC Pandemic office lie yet?

Drago said...

Will Sleepy Joe Biden spool up his Shadow Chinese Communist Virus Response Townhall today?

Drago said...

ARM is Desperately Seeking Hoax Dossier 4.0.

Drago said...

The Communist Chinese are now, literally, running CNN stories on commie State TV.

And that's right after the Chinese commie totalitarians publicly thanked Hillary Clinton for her support!

On top of multiple media networks repeatedly praising the ChiComs.

On top of Joe Biden carrying water for the ChiComs for years!

Fernandinande said...

One good thing here - you can't return library books in the drop-off, and there are no fines!

anti-de Sitter space said...

If DJT film flam results in folks being harmed, do I care?

Sheesh.

Ken B said...

Fernandistein distorts

And yet
When reporters asked Tony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, whether the drug hydroxychloroquine was effective at preventing coronavirus, he said simply: “The answer is no.”
... [then Fauci contradicts himself]:
“What I’m saying is that it might be effective,” Fauci said. ”

Fernandistein omitted that when Fauci said it might be effect he meant as a treatment to alleviate symptoms. From the report he linked

“ Some anecdotal evidence has shown the drug may be effective at reducing the severity of coronavirus symptoms”

Hands up those who understand the difference between treatment and prevention. Everyone? Good.

Hands up those who doubt Fernandistein is playing gotcha games. Anyone? Anyone?

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

AndrewFeinberg reporting ...

Trump now touting Walmart CEO’s support. Keep in mind that eight days ago in the Rose Garden, he promised that there’d be drive through testing in Wal-Mart parking lots, which was a blatant lie.

VP clarifies that the masks Trump bragged about won’t be available for weeks.

“State-run drive throughs are expanding across the country,” VP says re testing, though this doesn’t include the non-existent Walmart parking lot tests Trump claimed would be available at last friday’s rose garden event.

“There’s never been a thing like this in the history of the world,” Trump says of coronavirus.

Trump says "Nobody knew that a virus could travel from country to country. Really incredible."

J. Diamond reading quotes from doctors about lack of masks, asks Trump why this wasn’t resolved weeks ago. Trump (who has been in office for THREE YEARS) responds by blaming previous administrations and claiming other people are saying good things re masks.


Bush Jr claimed that no one could have predicted 9/11 and got away with the lie. Trump will not be so lucky, there is a long paper trail of neglect and incompetence, plus his own incredible stupidity, displayed every day. It's over.

Achilles said...

On January 31st Trump announced a travel ban to China.

On February 1st the media called him racist and hailed other leaders in other countries doing hug a chinese day.

I hope the globalist Mayor of Florence is held accountable.

I can't believe you idiots gave our governors dictatorial powers. These same idiots were calling Trump a racist too. Now they can shut down any business they want.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

The press doesn't like the daily briefings because it shows them for the pack of hyenas they are.

Many Americans haven't watched Trump's pressers. Instead they watch a cherry-picked version on the nightly news, with sound-bites edited to make Trump look bad. Now they're watching them daily and it isn't Trump who is looking bad.

So they have to stop!

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Trump's approval ratings are up, ARM.

Too bad for you.

Achilles said...

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...


Bush Jr claimed that no one could have predicted 9/11 and got away with the lie. Trump will not be so lucky, there is a long paper trail of neglect and incompetence, plus his own incredible stupidity, displayed every day. It's over.

You are right you piece of shit.

There is a long paper trail of democrats and the media trying to impeach the president at the beginning of this.

We remember he acted and you called him racist and xenophobic and claimed he was trying to distract from impeachment.

We see you carrying Communist China's water right now.

We see you. We see who's side you are on. We see your presidential nominee who took Billions from China. We see your party and your allies who sold us out to China for decades.

People's livelihoods are being destroyed.

You had better hope general order survives.

Ken B said...

Achilles
“ I can't believe you idiots gave our governors dictatorial powers. ”

You don’t know much history I take it. State governments have *always* had many powers unconstrained by the federal constitution. And have at times exercised them. The bill of rights is only partially incorporated against state governments, and the powers a state government have are mainly dictated by the state's own constitution. No one here gave the governors powers they didn’t already have.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

The travel ban on China was, at best, 1% of the required response. By the time of the travel ban the virus was already in the US.

anti-de Sitter space said...

This China travel ban really seems to be important to DJT fans.

If the virus was all over the world, is it possible that some, most, all most all of our cases came from other countries? Seems like that could be sussed out. What if over-hyping China resulted in more virus infiltration.

I had a friend fly in from Spain recently, she said there were audibly sick folks on the flight. No checks.

Achilles said...

Drago said...
The Communist Chinese are now, literally, running CNN stories on commie State TV.

And that's right after the Chinese commie totalitarians publicly thanked Hillary Clinton for her support!

On top of multiple media networks repeatedly praising the ChiComs.

On top of Joe Biden carrying water for the ChiComs for years!



Every time Trump wins they have upped the ante.

He beat Mueller.

He beat the stupid rape hoaxes.

He beat Impeachment.

He is beating them on Wuhan Virus. Even though they are doing massive and possibly permanent damage to our economy they united the American people around Trump and made him a leader in crisis.

There is only one more step for China, the Democrats, the media and the rest of team globalist left to take.

The Chicoms are going to fall over this. Long or short the people in China now hate the regime. Hate. Viscerally.

China just also royally fucked all of their "allies" in the belt and road initiative. The globalist shills in Italy are probably trying to get out of the country and hide in south america right now. China's globalist allies like the Mayor of Florence and Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton are going to get burned at the stake by the people they have been selling out for the last several decades.

The only step left for China and the globalists is War.

Be prepared.

Francisco D said...

The travel ban on China was, at best, 1% of the required response. By the time of the travel ban the virus was already in the US.

It seems sort of dumb to debate ARM on this, but if Trump himself developed a vaccine for the coronavirus, the complaints would be:

1. He is profiting from it;

2. He is putting Pharma companies out of business;

3. He should have spent time testifying at the Senate impeachment trial and;

4. The Russians helped him.

Achilles said...

Ken B said...
Achilles
“ I can't believe you idiots gave our governors dictatorial powers. ”

You don’t know much history I take it. State governments have *always* had many powers unconstrained by the federal constitution. And have at times exercised them. The bill of rights is only partially incorporated against state governments, and the powers a state government have are mainly dictated by the state's own constitution. No one here gave the governors powers they didn’t already have.

They had emergency powers during true state emergencies like the Civil War when civil order broke down.

Not when a few thousand people died in China to some disease.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

anti-de Sitter space said...
This China travel ban really seems to be important to DJT fans.


It is all he has got, and even this is of debatable value when not accompanied by dozens, if not hundreds, of other steps.

Instead of taking those steps, Trump was busy talking up the stock market and talking down the threat of the virus. A salesman until the day he dies.

Achilles said...

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
The travel ban on China was, at best, 1% of the required response. By the time of the travel ban the virus was already in the US.


No matter what happens you will do whatever it takes spinning the truth into some argument that gives you power.

You and all your leftist friends and your Chinese allies and globalist masters and corrupt politicians are out in the open now.

You are naked.

We see you.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Francisco D said...
dumb


You failed to provide an argument. I am sure it was an accidental oversight.

Bruce Hayden said...

“If the virus was all over the world, is it possible that some, most, all most all of our cases came from other countries? Seems like that could be sussed out. What if over-hyping China resulted in more virus infiltration.”

Timing here is everything. As far as we can tell, on January 31, most of the infections we know about, even now, worldwide were coming from China. and/or ethnic Chinese.

The thing to do, in this country, to fight a pandemic like this, is to play for time. That is because time is on our side. And that is because it gives us enough time to get sufficient testing into place, as well as to identify antivirals that prove useful, and ultimately to produce an effective vaccine.

Clyde said...

If we took people off television for "lies" and "misinformation," MSNBC would be broadcasting a blank screen.

Achilles said...

anti-de Sitter space said...
This China travel ban really seems to be important to DJT fans.

If the virus was all over the world, is it possible that some, most, all most all of our cases came from other countries? Seems like that could be sussed out. What if over-hyping China resulted in more virus infiltration.

I had a friend fly in from Spain recently, she said there were audibly sick folks on the flight. No checks.



Trump couldn't ban US citizens from returning.

But keep carrying water for the Chicoms.

We know they lied about this for months and enlisted the WHO to fight the travel bans. We remember how you lefties called Trump racist and xenophobic.

You are out in the open now. The rest of the country is uniting behind their leader in a crisis.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Bruce Hayden said...
The thing to do, in this country, to fight a pandemic like this, is to play for time.


This is a small part of what needed to be done. The rest was to prepare furiously to fight the virus, not talk up the stock market and minimize the threat. This was a federal failure, their responsibility.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

@ Clyde - for the thread win

If we took people off television for "lies" and "misinformation," MSNBC would be broadcasting a blank screen.

Iman said...

BBandH at 10:17am... Yes!!!

Iman said...

Rachel Maddow can politely go fuck herself.

Nothing polite about it. She can roughly do so.

YoungHegelian said...

@ARM,

The rest was to prepare furiously to fight the virus, not talk up the stock market and minimize the threat.

If this was so obvious, why is it that no one in the world was prepared for this? No one! This caught every government in the world unawares. There may be some outliers like South Korea where the response was "less bad", but no one is covered in glory so far.

This is what you & the Left always do. You pick a problem and then you proclaim how the opposition has fallen short of some standard that you just pull out of your ass, unrelated to the context & history of events. "If only we had been running things, the CDC would have had those tests ready!" Oh, bullshit! Tell me when a Democratic administration has ever taken a federal bureaucracy to the woodshed! The Obama admin was federal bureaucracies running wild! The federal bureaucrats are a big Democratic constituency. They're never going to hang them out to dry, just like their never going to call out the Teachers Unions.

Iman said...

Your leaders are not stepping up in any fashion, ARM. They are showing how empty and vapid they are:

And yet, have you noticed there hasn’t been much from Democrats on this front. It didn’t dawn on me until two things happened. I read the Huffington Post (yes, you should read what the libs are digesting) and saw “#WhereisJoe” was trending on Twitter. Former Vice President Joe Biden, the presumptive 2020 Democratic nominee, is nowhere to be found in the crisis. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ policies are insane, but at least he held some pressers on this matter, mostly to push for his Medicare for All proposal which would have done nothing to shield people from getting sick.

The Democrats are nowhere to be found on this. It’s been Republicans who have been quarterbacking the response on the Hill. HuffPo described their move on this matter as disastrous, as the GOP has taken the leadership role, despite Democrats controlling the House and the money for all this stuff.


From HuffPo, c/o Townhall... https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/03/20/huffpo-reporter-the-democrats-response-to-the-wuhan-coronavirus-outbreak-has-been-disastrous-n2565419

Paul said...

Madcow can sod off.

Michael K said...

This was a federal failure, their responsibility.

To some degree, I agree with you. FDA and CDC have had 19 years to consider a biowarfare attack and how to deal with it. The original thought was that the risk would be smallpox in a non vaccinated population.

Here is their plan as of 2002.

Any sign that they were ready ? They have been preoccupied with gun control and obesity since 2009. Guess why ?

wholelottasplainin' said...

ARM said:
It is all he has got, and even this is of debatable value when not accompanied by dozens, if not hundreds, of other steps.
******************************

Name them. Start with the dozens.

Then compare them with the timing and steps taken by Obama in handling the swine flu.

Michael K said...

The mendacity of the leftist commenters is astonishing today.

Have you no self awareness ?

MayBee said...

What is going on here is unprecedented, The idea that Trump should have done this sooner- when nothing was done like this for SARS, H1N1, Ebola, Avian Flu....or even 9/11-- seems like fear and hindsight to me.
You people are afraid and you will do anything and blame anyone. It's ok. It's human. But what all are you willing to do, and what were you willing to do in January?

walter said...

Keep Hope Denied!
b/c "Dude gotta go!"

Jason said...

It's amazing how often silencing or suppressing voices they don't like is so-called 'liberals'' go-to move. It's like a nervous tic with them. Like Peter Sellers' involuntary spasmic Nazi salutes in "Dr. Strangelove."

Scratch a liberal, you'll find a fascist. Every time.

narciso said...

day ending in y, where are you on the wareham china series?

narciso said...

Marcuse, had a word for it, 'repressive tolerance'

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

MayBee said...
seems like fear


The only person who has looked afraid to me was Trump. When it was time to act he was afraid to do so and obsessed about the stock market and his reelection.

Iman said...

A day earlier, this Twitter thread authored by Rosen was retweeted by George Conway and so got some rapid wide attention

George Conway gets “rapid wide attention”. Who knew?!?!

mockturtle said...

They have been preoccupied with gun control and obesity since 2009.

Exactly, Michael K! As if either was a 'disease'.

mockturtle said...

ARM is misguided enough to believe that our economic health is beneath consideration. Yes, stopping the virus needs to be our immediate priority but the measures taken short-term cannot be sustained long-term.

Nichevo said...

anti-de Sitter space said...
If DJT film flam results in folks being harmed, do I care?

Sheesh.



One of the downsides of your pure negative word salad bullshit persona, adSs, is that no one thinks that you care about anyone or anything. Sheesh, forsooth. Your next atom of sincerity will be your first.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

The stock market is not the economy. The economy was somewhat weak. A strong economy does not require the President to be constantly bullying the Fed to take action.

Nichevo said...

There's nothing wrong with Rachel Maddow that running a couple miles of dick through her wouldn't fix. It would certainly get her attention.

Meade said...

"The mendacity of the leftist commenters is astonishing today.

Have you no self awareness ?"

Oh they have plenty of self awareness. They hate what they clearly see in themselves — hate — and it drives them to madness.

So they lie.

It's all they have left.

Nichevo said...

Blogger rightguy said...
President Trump is on live TV everyday demonstrating that he is fully engaged with the covid-19 epidemic, and is doing everything possible to combat it.


Being in the pro-flu camp, or at least wishing we could dial back the hysteria to 10, I am, of course, a supporter of the President, and he seems to be doing everything that could be wanted on this issue, but I certainly hope that in our obsession with this Crisis, other matters are receiving all the attention they deserve.

Francisco D said...

ARM said: You failed to provide an argument. I am sure it was an accidental oversight.

I do not argue with known liars.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

"Name them. Start with the dozens."

Yes, ARM and your fellow snide asshole, anti-de Sitter space, tell us about those "dozens" of actions you would have taken instead, back in January, or even December.

You know, back when the Left was having orgasms over impeachment. 'Cause I don't remember either of you ever saying at the time, "Gee, there seems to be a problem with some weird disease in Wuhan. We really better prepare for this."

But now, ARM sees, in his magic looking glass, "dozens, if not hundreds" of things Trump should have done about this.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Here's another piece of friggin' genius, brought to you by our left-wing media:

Virus Drug Touted by Trump, Musk Can Kill With Just Two Gram Dose
Bloomberg News
March 20, 2020, 2:50 AM EDT

They've instilled panic about the disease, now they're trying to instill panic about possible cures.

Two grams of just about any drug will kill you, whether we're talking about chlorquinine or aspirin. That's why we have things called "recommended doses."

These people are utterly contemptible.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Meade said...
So they lie.


I am sure you have a link to back up that claim. Trump lies - constantly. Why not focus you super-sensitive lie detector on Trump. His lies matter, for the health and safety of all of us.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

As to the things Trump should have been doing. How about pandemic preparedness? Checking that we had everything we need to keep those on the front line of medical care safe. The lazy fucker didn't do a thing, didn't even know it was a problem, because he can't pay attention to anything that isn't him.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Some people here want to throw around the accusation of lying while defending one of the worst liars this country have ever seen. Not a smart rhetorical move.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

The press are not interested in helping. They want to back-stab the not-Hillary because they are still butthurt over 2016. They are not journalists, they are sociopaths.

Iman said...

https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2020/03/IMG_1595.jpg?resize=478%2C600&ssl=1

Derek Kite said...

I look at what Trump says in the press conferences as direct communication to the bureaucracy. The media are a pretty good proxy for their ineptness and stupidity.

mockturtle said...

The lazy fucker didn't do a thing

Now I know ARM is just trolling. Nobody believes Trump is lazy. Possibly the most hardworking President in history. Certainly in my lifetime. Nice try, ARM, but we have more important issues to debate. ;-)

Ken B said...

“ Nobody believes Trump is lazy.”

Wrong again I’m afraid. I see the Trump-golfing trope endlessly, and trump couch potato. Trump, for some, simply has whatever bad quality crosses their mind at that moment. ARM is like that.

chickelit said...

Some people here want to throw around the accusation of lying while defending one of the worst liars this country have ever seen. Not a smart rhetorical move.

And yet your side still cannot field an alternative. The 'Joe-Biden-as-figurehead-while-we-really-rule-by-consensus" model is not going to cut it. You guys cannot cobble together a coalition and you know it. What is your idea of govenrment -- the EU? Seriously, what's up with your side? Why are ALL your leaders all so lame?

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Trump is one of the most intellectually lazy people I have ever seen in public life. And, politicians and celebrity hosts are not exactly known for their efforts in this area. He cannot explain even the most basic thing. It's like watching a grade-schooler who didn't do the reading assignment now standing in front of the class.

He stays awake for long hours watching TV, but meth addicts do that also. How about reading something once in a while? Like, for instance, something on the threat of pandemics to the nation, or on the difficulties of drug development.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan unreasonably said...

Trump is one of the most intellectually lazy people I have ever seen in public life. And, politicians and celebrity hosts are not exactly known for their efforts in this area. He cannot explain even the most basic thing. It's like watching a grade-schooler who didn't do the reading assignment now standing in front of the class.

Yet he was elected president. How can you believe what you do & still believe that people should choose their leadership?

chickelit said...

Like, for instance, something on the threat of pandemics to the nation, or on the difficulties of drug development.

I worked for quite a few brilliant chemists during my career. Every last one of them was all for importing as many foreign (read Chinese) students as possible. Now universities have or are about to shut down laboratory research labs. And since we transferred much of or drug discovery away from private industry into universities -- if not to China and India, that sucks. For US.

BTW, How is India faring in all this? They have the worst teeming squalor -- one would think they'd be ravaged the worst. Titus is our own resident expert on India as well as communicable viruses -- what sayeth he?

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

ARM - Hillary lost. Get over it.

Or go take a nap and dream of corrupt money grubbing Biden as your savior.

mockturtle said...

Trump is one of the most intellectually lazy people I have ever seen in public life.

And perhaps our most 'intellectual' President? Woodrow Wilson. Also one of our worst Presidents.

chickelit said...

Lewis Wetzel wrote: Yet he was elected president. How can you believe what you do & still believe that people should choose their leadership?

I'm beginning to think that the Left has given up trying to convince people in any meaningful way. Their goal really will be to cancel or negate the upcoming election.

Here's a Constitutional question for the formally-trained-in-law-folks: What happens if there is no election in the fall? Would the EC simply Zoom a meeting and vote? Would Pence succeed Trump?

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

media "Reporting things" = Avanetti Schitt show and Russian collusion BS -that was pulled out of Hillary's revenge filled asshole.

Browndog said...

Media: We demand daily press briefings!

Trump: Here ya go. I'll even do them myself.

Media: We demand these daily press briefings stop!

Lewis Wetzel said...

He probably thinks people should just lie less than Trump did to win. Maybe you should too.
If Trump lied less but it cost him votes would you still love him as much? I don't think you would.


That right there is some high-octane gibberish.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

It was a stretch for that Woodrow Wilson reference, but at least you are in the game ;).

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

chicklet said:
"BTW, How is India faring in all this? They have the worst teeming squalor -- one would think they'd be ravaged the worst."

And yet they are not, possibly because, like many sub-Saharan African countries, India still suffers from malaria. So a substantial percentage of the population has taken anti-malarial drugs like chloroquin. That's what led scientists to think chloroquin might be effective against the corona virus.

Michael K said...

He stays awake for long hours watching TV, but meth addicts do that also.

ARM is a personal friend of Trump's janitor, I guess. He has to be to know all these secrets.

Maybe Ritmo is briefing him.

You guys are too much.

Darkisland said...

You mean like books on China, arm? Might be a useful background for a future president.

Donald Trump recently reeled off an impressive list of Chinese books that he has read over the years that has heloff an impressive list of Chinese books that he has read over the years that has helped him understand the nation and people that he does business with.

"I've read hundreds of books about China over the decades," Trump told Xinhua, the official news agency of the People's Republic of China.

"I know the Chinese. I've made a lot of money with the Chinese. I understand the Chinese mind," said the billionaire, who has continually stated that if he were president he would levy a 25% tax on Chinese imports.

...

reportedly listed the following 20 books right off the top of his head.

1. "The Party" by Richard McGregor 
2. "On China" by Henry Kissinger 
3. "Mao: The Untold Story" by Jung Chang 
4. "Tide Players" by Jianying Zha 
5. "One Billion Customers" by James McGregor 
6. "The Coming China Wars" by Peter W. Navarro 
7. "The Beijing Consensus" by Stefan Halper 
8. "China CEO" by Juan Antonio Fernandez and Laurie Underwood 
9. "Poorly Made in China" by Paul Midler
10. "CHINA: Portrait of a People" by Tom Carter 
11. "The Man Who Loved China" by Simon Winchester 
12. "China Shakes the World" by James Kynge 
13. "Mr. China" by Tim Clissold
14. "Country Driving" by Peter Hessler 
15. "The Dragon's Gift" by Deborah Brautigam 
16. "Factory Girls" by Leslie T. Chang 
17. "The Heavenly Man" by Brother Yun 
18. "1421" by Gavin Menzies 
19. "Seven Years in Tibet" by Heinrich Harrer 
20. "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother" by Amy Chua



https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/05/donald-trump-i-understand-the-chinese-mind.html

What books have you read this week arm?

John Henry

Achilles said...

I see a new level of desperation in the leftists.

You all better keep it anonymous.

You are all out in the open now you disgusting ghouls.

Darkisland said...



What books have you read this week, arm? (or this month or year). Seems to me that if you are going to complain about someone else's reading habits you should share yours. Where do you get this immense wealth of knowledge you seem so proud of?

https://www.usnews.com/news/slideshows/10-books-donald-trump-loves?slide=2

It's a pretty good list. I wonder how many you've read?

John Henry

roesch/voltaire said...

ARM your attempts to argue with true believers is admirable but futile, still it does give the blog a different voice. Poor Meade he is reduced to throwing superficial cuts that a petulant and emotional, where is the heart or mind in that?

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Our president on the job. It's not about him so he struggles to maintain interest.

Darkisland said...

 anti-de Sitter space said...

”Nazis“

We don’t use that term. You should write: “German’s who are known to love Hitter and murder and torture and genocide.”


Or the more descriptive and their preferred term:

"National Socialist"

And what books have you read the week sitter?

John Henry

Browndog said...

This is a White House reporter:

Andrew Feinberg
‏Verified account @AndrewFeinberg

Andrew Feinberg Retweeted Donald J. Trump

Holy shit, this is ignorant snake oil drivel spewing forth from the President.

Azithromycin is an ANTIBIOTIC.

Antibiotics are NOT effective against VIRUSES.

He might as well tweet about colloidal silver.

Darkisland said...

 President Toilet Paper Shoe's Cooked-Up Drug Deal said...

Donald Trump's reading list looks like the one I had in high school! Cool!

Must have been some high school. Which of the books were on your list?

Which ones have you read? SunTzu? Nicky M? Einstein?

Any of them?

John Henry

chickelit said...

Azithromycin is an ANTIBIOTIC

True, but isn't pneumonia a big factor in COVID-19 mortalities? The two seem to work in tandem. Quit acting so know-it-all gotcha.

mockturtle said...

Anyone who has seen the French studies with hydroxychloroquine knows that they used it in conjunction with azithromycin. Even though the hydroxychloroquine alone showed very good results the combination showed even better. Why? Two possible reasons:
1. There is evidence that the virus is 'piggy-backing' on bacteria.
2. Many of the seriously ill have secondary bacterial infections.

chickelit said...

Reporters for the most part are scientific idiots. When I was in college, the J-school students stayed as far away from science as possible. Math too.

Darkisland said...

So, no books read this week, month, year, right sitter

John Henry

rehajm said...

: “The answer is no.”
... [then Fauci contradicts himself]:
“What I’m saying is that it might be effective,”

Ya, sorry medical community, we cannot wait for the medicine bureaucracy on this one. The quarantine will kill more people than the virus if you wait for medical certainty. You've got stuff already on the shelves and so long as the new stuff gets past phase I where it's not making people drop dead...there's going to be plenty of volunteers to step up and try this stuff....

You gotta set aside the bureaucrat mentality for this one...

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

I learn a lot from the non-leftists here.

What do I learn from the leftists? not much. Twitter hate. D-hack press hysteria. True believers in Maddow lies. 3 + years of true believers in Maddow lies.


I don't expect Trump to be Captain Doctor-man. He is surrounding himself with the best. We all know Trump isn't a doctor. Of course the left know that someone like Obama IS captain Doctor-man. Super-hero. Wipes out H1N1 in a single bound of ... crisp pant ironing.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

We seem to have lost a good man on the battle-field of ideas. War is heck.

walter said...

Gregory Rigano Retweeted
InceptionViet
@InceptionCap
Replying to
@InceptionCap

@biannagolodryga
and 4 others
Prior research has shown that Azithromycin has antiviral effects in bronchial epithelial cells, despite being commonly used as an antibiotic. https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/45/2/428

Azithromycin shows antiviral activity in humans https://jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(15)00859-3/pdf
Novel antiviral properties of azithromycin in cystic fibrosis airway epithelial cells
Azithromycin reduces rhinovirus load in CF bronchial cells, possibly through the induction of the interferon pathway http://ow.ly/BVw2U
erj.ersjournals.com

Gregory Rigano Retweeted
Arun Sridhar
@ArunRSridhar
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Mar 17
UW Covid team is going to use Hydroxychloroquin for all patients warranting hospital admission. We came up with this quick and simple guideline for QTc cutoffs during treatment. Feel free to adapt and use if your hospital is using hydroxychloroquin for these pts. #COVID19

Drago said...

roesch/voltaire: "ARM your attempts to argue with true believers is admirable but futile, ..."

So very true.

Trump supporters here still refuse to accept the "truth" of Trump/Russia Collusion, the "truth" of the hoax dossier, the "truth" that Net Neutrality would kill millions, the "truth" that dumping the obamacare mandate would kill millions, the "truth" that Trump would start WW3/4/5/6 killing millions, the "truth" that Kavanaugh was a gang rape leader, the "truth" that Trump had a quid pro quo with Ukraine......and on and on.

We dumb deplorables are simply impervious to lefty "truth".....

Iman said...

We seem to have lost a good man on the battle-field of ideas. War is heck.


One man's ideas are another man's emergency ass wipe.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Here's a Tucker video essay from last month in which he highlighted America's suicidal drive to be wholly dependent on China for manufacture of our most basic and critical things -- driven by a media that is corrupted by Chinese money.

rcocean said...

Like Trump, I'm optimistic we'll defeat the Virus, and only lose a small number of people. The Ebola killed 8-10 thousand and people can barely remember it. People are already coming up with solutions to mitigate the impact.

I'm less optimistic about the Economy and stock market. Do we really need to flood the country with $2 Trillion? We're halted and reduced activity, but nothing has been destroyed. The stocks and assets were overvalued. We've just slowed/stopped buying and selling. When we go back to doing that, the economy should bounce back.

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