Althouse: Biden's Covid-19 plan.

March 12, 2020

Biden's Covid-19 plan.

Here.

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victoria said...: Because he doesn't really care. He only cares about what sounds good to him.

Vicki from Pasadena; 3/12/20, 2:08 PM
Susan said...: Link took me straight to a fundraising page.

Which is all I need to know about Biden's Covid-19 Plan.; 3/12/20, 2:09 PM
Robert Edick said...: "Biden believes we must spend whatever it takes..."

All you need to know about his plan.; 3/12/20, 2:10 PM
Michael K said...: Have you seen the Don Lemon crazy talk?; 3/12/20, 2:10 PM
Char Char Binks, Esq. said...: Without reading it, I'm guessing it involves a shotgun.; 3/12/20, 2:10 PM
Barry Dauphin said...: He helped lead the Obama-Biden Administration’s effective response to the 2009 H1N1 pandemic and the 2014 Ebola epidemic. Biden site
From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus. CDC; 3/12/20, 2:12 PM
Jerry said...: Holy crap.

"I've got GREAT ideas that are already going on, along with I'm NOT TRUMP!"

None of which he can implement until after he wins the election.

Of course, by Nov this will have already burned itself out.; 3/12/20, 2:12 PM
StephenFearby said...: Quite a laundry list.; 3/12/20, 2:13 PM
Oso Negro said...: And Biden is the leader of ...... what? It will be gone or he will be totally gone by next January; 3/12/20, 2:19 PM
Dave Begley said...: Real plan: Elect a senile old man and his people will run the show.; 3/12/20, 2:19 PM
Ice Nine said...: Too Long; Didn't Read. I'm going to wait and listen to Biden explain "his" detailed plan in depth at the next debate. You know, after he figures out where he is and why he's there.; 3/12/20, 2:20 PM
Todd said...: So Biden's plan is basically Trump's plan but better cause he is going to spend more government (meaning our) money! He will issue more mandates, task bunches of folks to do more stuff, get more people on various government programs.

Does his team understand that if this is still a problem in November, his plan is not needed cause it will be too late? Or is this entire plan just a political statement meant to belittle the current administration's reaction without having to actually come out a criticize it?

Does Biden even know what is in it? At this point, could he even read it/discuss it on live TV? Would his handlers trust him to?; 3/12/20, 2:22 PM
minnesota farm guy said...: Is Joe going to go on the air nd elucidate this? It would be a humiliating episode I am sure.; 3/12/20, 2:23 PM
Nonapod said...: A decisive public health response that ensures the wide availability of free testing;

From what I understand, currently testing is covered by insurance and the co-pays are being waved. In fairness though, the uninsured would still presumably have to pay for testing and I have no idea how much a test currently costs.

the elimination of all cost barriers to preventive care and treatment for COVID-19

This is far too vague to parse. First of all, this needs to define "preventive care" and the what the "cost barriers" are to it.

the development of a vaccine;

This is happening, obviously. Are they attempting to argue that it isn't?

and the full deployment and operation of necessary supplies, personnel, and facilities.

Again, too vague. What supplies, personnel, facilities are necessary that aren't being "deployed" (whatever that means).

Biden believes we must spend whatever it takes, without delay, to meet public health needs and deal with the mounting economic consequences

During the heart of a crisis, it's easy to make such proclamations. But without specific, it's all just hot wind.; 3/12/20, 2:23 PM
Limited blogger said...: This was Biden's screen test for being POTUS

Nice suit, good teleprompter reading, no major fuck ups

All Hail the Chief!!; 3/12/20, 2:24 PM
dbesly said...: I was unable to get to the content as I refused to donate to the campaign. I guess we will have to pass the plan to find out what is in it.; 3/12/20, 2:25 PM
~ Gordon Pasha said...: Must include funding for abortion as part of the plan - because that's how Dems roll.; 3/12/20, 2:27 PM
Jupiter said...: That looks like it would cost a lot of money. How rich is Joe? I don't think the Burisma payoff will cover this. He either needs to offer Bloomberg the VP slot, or just step aside and let the Clinton Foundation handle this.; 3/12/20, 2:30 PM
Jim Gust said...: So an immediate adoption of Medicare for all, including illegals, but just for this one disease.

Given the way that the CDC booted this, less government may be better than more government.; 3/12/20, 2:31 PM
TJM said...: Inga,

Any deep thoughts?; 3/12/20, 2:33 PM
Chris said...: The will cease to be an issue before he could ever take office. His plan is moot.; 3/12/20, 2:33 PM
narciso said...: so the 10 centers will do what exactly for the 57 states.; 3/12/20, 2:35 PM
chickelit said...: Can’t get past the fundraising page so your link was not very helpful, Althouse. And I hope you didn’t give him any money.; 3/12/20, 2:36 PM
Karen of Texas said...: If I were in to conspiracy theories, Biden's plan *cough*sure-where-am-I-Joe*cough* outlines the wet dreams of the progressives. And hey, look, we now have the urgent reason needed for our great progressive transformation to come to fruition.; 3/12/20, 2:38 PM
Roost on the Moon said...: Real plan: Elect a senile old man and his people will run the show.

I have to admit, that sounds better than a senile old man whose people don't.; 3/12/20, 2:39 PM
Gusty Winds said...: I’m with Susan. Link went to a fundraising page. I stopped there. All I needed to know. Gross.; 3/12/20, 2:43 PM
MikeR said...: Good thing Joe Biden is here; who else could have made this list?; 3/12/20, 2:44 PM
narciso said...: well its not as bad as Hillary taking credit for the handling of the sars outbreak,; 3/12/20, 2:44 PM
MountainMan said...: Typical bureaucratic response. The pandemic will be history before any of this could ever be implemented. I got little out of it.; 3/12/20, 2:49 PM
Ken B said...: Well, JAC was right. Biden communicates his priorities much more precisely and accurately than Trump.; 3/12/20, 2:50 PM
GingerBeer said...: I half expect Biden to challenge COVID-19 to a push-up contest.; 3/12/20, 2:51 PM
GingerBeer said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 3/12/20, 2:53 PM
Tom said...: How’s paid leave work for small business owners?; 3/12/20, 2:53 PM
hombre said...: Bullshit aside, it looks like the Trump plan without vital private sector participation.; 3/12/20, 2:55 PM
madAsHell said...: I'm feeling a little Rick-rolled. I landed on the donations page, and stopped.; 3/12/20, 2:55 PM
madAsHell said...: "Your full of shit!!"
--Joe Biden, March 10, 2020.; 3/12/20, 2:56 PM
madAsHell said...: "Your full of shit!!"
--Joe Biden, March 10, 2020.; 3/12/20, 2:56 PM
Dan from Madison said...: I would bet literally every dollar I own that Biden didn't write one word of it.; 3/12/20, 2:58 PM
Meade said...: "I half expect Biden to challenge COVID-19 to a push-up contest."

Perfect. I haven't LOLed that loud in a while.; 3/12/20, 2:59 PM
bagoh20 said...: So it is written, so it shall be done.

There is just one crucial component missing: The power of Cornpop.; 3/12/20, 3:01 PM
Francisco D said...: Biden's people (i.e., the DNC) make plans for managing a pandemic but can't run a caucus.

Oh yeah, I feel safer now. It reminds me of academics who develop grand plans but cannot organize a two-car funeral.; 3/12/20, 3:04 PM
bagoh20 said...: Paid leave will increase infection rates 1000% - first on paper as everyone is suddenly feeling like they need some paid time off, and then actually, when they all get together for barbecues across America. It would be a hell of a party.; 3/12/20, 3:04 PM
Big Mike said...: Typical Democrat plan (if I may abuse the word by applying it to stuff like this) — high on grandiose statements, low on specifics, create new bureaucracies (because the old ones have gotten too heavy on bureaucratic bullshit and too short on solid expertise, but let’s not go there!), and — above all — throw money at the problem.; 3/12/20, 3:06 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Wonder how much this plan would tank the Dow Jones. Trump's plan proved to double-double extra-strength Dow Jones tanker. Bet Biden can't beat that.; 3/12/20, 3:09 PM
GatorNavy said...: Stopped reading the document after the bragging about Biden being the point man for H1N1 disaster.; 3/12/20, 3:09 PM
bagoh20 said...: Finally, something that might actually work:

"Pornhub is offering Italians free premium porn to pass the time during Italy’s coronavirus quarantine."; 3/12/20, 3:11 PM
Darkisland said...: Straight to a fundraising page with no way to continue without donating.

Even worse, it is for ActBlue, not for Biden.

ActBlue is an "independent" fund raising organization that raises "for the benefit of" the candidate. "for the benefit of" is very loosely defined.

Their fundraising is not approved by and has no connection to any candidate.

It is a giant demmy scam.

If you want to support a candidate send them not ActBlue the money.

I'd be interested to see what Biden's plan is. Not interested enough to pay actblue.

John Henry; 3/12/20, 3:20 PM
Stv30 said...: Neil Kinnock wrote it; 3/12/20, 3:21 PM
Drago said...: victoria: "Because he doesn't really care. He only cares about what sounds good to him."

Trump cares so little that he refused to collude with russia just to make dems like victoria feel better.

The cad.; 3/12/20, 3:23 PM
Gilbert Pinfold said...: Izzy Mandelbaum says “It’s Go Time!”.; 3/12/20, 3:23 PM
exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...: "I half expect Biden to challenge COVID-19 to a push-up contest."

He'll fire a shotgun* through the door and shoot it if it gets close to him.

*Not an AR 14 though.; 3/12/20, 3:27 PM
Sebastian said...: "Biden's Covid-19 plan."

Asserting a fact not in evidence.; 3/12/20, 3:30 PM
MaxedOutMama said...: In fairness, you can use the link at the top to get to the plan without actually donating. If you try to use the link at the bottom to continue on, it forces you to enter a dollar figure.

I have not laughed so hard for a while. I'm not sure that this was the best-conceived approach. Give me my money now, before you die? Really, Joe?

Thank you, Ann.; 3/12/20, 3:31 PM
narciso said...: I got past the first level, but mostly platitudes, more empire building,; 3/12/20, 3:32 PM
Todd said...: Hummm...

I clicked on Ann's link and it took me straight to "Biden's" plan. You can tell is it all HIS plan cause the URL has his name in it!

https://joebiden.com/covid19/; 3/12/20, 3:34 PM
D.D. Driver said...: Biden's top priority right now should be to not personally catch Corona.; 3/12/20, 3:34 PM
narciso said...: no over reacting; 3/12/20, 3:35 PM
rcocean said...: Biden knows how to mount an effective crisis response and elevate the voices of scientists, public health experts, and first responders. He helped lead the Obama-Biden Administration’s effective response to the 2009 H1N1 pandemic and the 2014 Ebola epidemic. Biden also helped lead the response to the greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression and ran point on implementation of the Recovery Act. He knows how to get relief out the door to families, as well as resources to state and local officials to deal with the challenges they are facing.

LOL. Does ANYONE remember biden "Running point" on the recovery act? Or leading the "effective response" to H1N1 flu in 2009? 12,000 Americans died from H1N1. Did anyone panic? No, because the press covered the story - with a pillow.; 3/12/20, 3:36 PM
minnesota farm guy said...: @ Gilbert Pinfold Seinfeld; right?; 3/12/20, 3:38 PM
Dave Begley said...: June 2020 College World Series in Omaha is cancelled. Was that in Biden's plan?; 3/12/20, 3:39 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: The media are causing much of the panic.

Dow tanks.

Democrats are giddy.; 3/12/20, 3:43 PM
clint said...: There's a thing you can click in the upper right to bypass the fundraising.

Still not a good look at all, but it is possible to bypass.; 3/12/20, 3:48 PM
Real American said...: If Biden gives a speech at night and then takes questions without forgetting where he is, I'd be impressed. This is crap.; 3/12/20, 3:52 PM
Temujin said...: Biden will be ready for Day One.

Anyone out there remember the shovel-ready jobs from day 1. No?

Me neither.

Washigton lifers are famous for two things: Committees and committee punch lists that don't turn into action.; 3/12/20, 3:54 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: A few thing to keep in mind while the world melts down. and MSM dancing with glee and fake fear.

1) the "hospital bed shortage" panic: has not happened yet and people who are sick need to self quarantine and not necessarily take up a hospital bed. This is obvious. Save the beds for the elderly
2) the elderly are taking the hit on this virus more than any other group. Deaths are highest with Cov-19 70+ and of those 70+ who have other health issues.
3) This is especially true in Italy, with a higher ratio of elderly, family clusters, kiss-hello/kiss-goodbye (yes this is a thing), and higher rates of smoking overall among the population as a whole, esp in older generations.

Costco is getting more ridiculous by the day.

4) the Swineflu or H1N1 perspective (memory holed) why - because Lord King Obama was MSM lover-boy crica.

CDC stats:
From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 DEATHS (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.; 3/12/20, 3:57 PM
Darrell said...: 1) Find Corn Pop.
2) Find an old straight razor and scratch it up on curb and dunk it in a rain barrel to facilitate rusting.
3) Cover your head in Dixie Peach Pomade to trap airborne virus and trap culturally insensitive public officials into creating racist rules about swim caps.
4) Create new taxes.; 3/12/20, 4:00 PM
Hubert the Infant said...: It is not just that Biden is corrupt, not very intelligent, and senile. He is evil. He is politicizing what might be -- at least in economic terms -- the worst public health crisis in history. Why doesn't it occur to his handlers or other Dem politicians that what is needed now is unity?; 3/12/20, 4:01 PM
Drago said...: ARM: "Wonder how much this plan would tank the Dow Jones. Trump's plan proved to double-double extra-strength Dow Jones tanker. Bet Biden can't beat that."

Wall Street is not Main Street, as you will see again in November.

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits unexpectedly fell last week as employers continued to hold on to their workers.

Initial claims for state unemployment benefits dropped 4,000 to a seasonally adjusted 211,000 for the week ended March 7, the Labor Department said. Jobless claims are the most timely labor market indicator. They have declined for two straight weeks."

ARM and the dems hardest hit.

Record number of Americans working and getting jobs happily content.

These Americans, by the way, are precisely the people that OBiden-Bama left behind as they continued the sellout to China.

Don't worry though ARM. I'm sure the RNC is teeing up all those OBiden-Bama comments that China is not our competitor and that Americans never lost jobs to China and NAFTA is an A-OK trade deal and there is nothing wrong with selling out to the Davos crowd, etc.; 3/12/20, 4:06 PM
Drago said...: rcocean: "LOL. Does ANYONE remember biden "Running point" on the recovery act? Or leading the "effective response" to H1N1 flu in 2009? 12,000 Americans died from H1N1. Did anyone panic? No, because the press covered the story - with a pillow."

OBiden-Bama certainly ran point on US relations with China and Ukraine....which is how his coked-up addled moron son who got thrown out of the Navy after just a month was able to "garner" $83,000 per month from Putin's energy pals in Ukraine AND pull down a very very very cool $1.5 BILLION in investment dollars from Biden's Chinese allies.

That's on top of Biden's brother getting very wealthy on fat govt deals that OBiden-Bama smoothed over for him.........

But its all good, because under Sleepy Joe's watch, all it took for OBiden-Bama to declare an H1N1 health emergency in 2009 was over 1,000 people dead!

You know what would really help right now? Open Borders and Beto running the Biden admin program of confiscating weapons from law-abiding citizens.; 3/12/20, 4:10 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: got that?

Swine-flu H1N1 - 2009:
60.8 million cases
12,469 deaths

MSM back in 2009? I don't recall this level of panic.; 3/12/20, 4:11 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: Press release from Biden will be delivered and packaged as if it matters.; 3/12/20, 4:12 PM
Meade said...: Wow. That was long. I got all the way to...
As President, Biden will fully integrate climate change into our foreign policy and global health security strategies, and prioritize efforts to mitigate disease and migration challenges caused by a warming planet
...before I ran out of steam. I'll have to finish it later.; 3/12/20, 4:13 PM
Mary Beth said...: At the top right of the page, there's a link that says, "Continue to JoeBiden.com". Click that if you want to read it for yourself. You do not have to donate.

Dan from Madison said...

I would bet literally every dollar I own that Biden didn't write one word of it.

3/12/20, 2:58 PM

I will bet that he thinks he had major input on it, though.; 3/12/20, 4:14 PM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: His plan is a load of happytalk blather about outing “scientists front and center.” Who does he think is on the COVID19 task force?; 3/12/20, 4:14 PM
Owen said...: The Biden Plan looks a lot like the measures already taken or announced by Trump. Are we sure there’s no plagiarism here?; 3/12/20, 4:14 PM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 3/12/20, 4:14 PM
Skeptical Voter said...: Well I did get past the fund raising page (sorry Joe, I didn't throw a nickel in the organ grinder's cup, no matter how nice a monkey you are).

But then I started to read the plan, and realized that Elizabeth Warren had somehow joined the Biden campaign. It read like something from Liawatha's portfolio of plans.

I did have to chuckle when I read that each state would get ten testing stations and everybody could get a free test. It's going to take a long time for ten testing stations to test 40 million people in California, but why should I quibble about the details? Slow Joe has a plan!; 3/12/20, 4:17 PM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: How will we beat the bug if y’all can’t even get past the fundraising splash page. Link to continue to joe03030 was right there at the top.; 3/12/20, 4:19 PM
jaydub said...: Is Jon Althouse going to be doing a fact check on Biden's plan, or do those only apply to Trump?; 3/12/20, 4:19 PM
Ken B said...: Meade
Most authorities tell us warmer weather is our best friend in fighting covid. For Joe it’s the biggest threat.; 3/12/20, 4:20 PM
Original Mike said...: "Maybe we should follow Twain's plan which is very successful: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/what-taiwan-can-teach-world-fighting-coronavirus-n1153826?fbclid=IwAR2fuT1AGdBHO-n_dz_7Q9QLBDG7OYIhstypAoFe_CkkKT7Fa-lqa3ARZOU"

Off the top of my head, it looks like the US and Taiwan per capita rate are the same. But far be it from me to disagree with a media math whiz.; 3/12/20, 4:20 PM
Bay Area Guy said...: @Gilbert Pinfold,

"Izzy Mandelbaum says “It’s Go Time!”.

Heh, heh - you are my new best friend!

Question for the crowd. Last winter (1 fucking year ago) in the US, there were 35 Million Flu cases, 490,000 Flu hospitalizations and 34,000 flu deaths. Source: CDC

This year we have allegedly 38 deaths from a variant of the Cold Virus, and all earthly activity must cease.

Why the difference?; 3/12/20, 4:21 PM
Drago said...: You can tell the dems and LLR's are very very concerned about potential deaths resulting from the Wuhan/ChineseCommunist virus because Pelosi made sure to add to the coronavirus support bill a measure to increase available funds for abortion.

Discuss.; 3/12/20, 4:23 PM
Drago said...: We really don't need a Biden "promise" as to what he would do in a health emergency, we already have his record.....and it ain't pretty.; 3/12/20, 4:24 PM
Laslo Spatula said...: Biden steps into a softball batting cage and thinks he's swinging in the World Series with Game Seven on the line.

He's bunting for the fences, baby.

I am Laslo.; 3/12/20, 4:25 PM
AlbertAnonymous said...: Why does he need a plan? Why doesn’t he just say “I’ll put my sister, Dr. Jill Biden, in charge. She’s a helluva Doctor. Just ask Whoopi”; 3/12/20, 4:32 PM
EsoxLucius said...: Perhaps people on this blog need to look up the difference between a epidemic and a endemic disease. Epidemics like COVID-19 affect less people than endemics like the flu initially, but increase their morbidity with inaction. The former should be nipped in the bud, while the latter require a more broad based approach. Everything doesn't have to be about Trump; some things need people coming together to help each other. We used to be able to do that; I fear that it's going to take a disaster to unite us.; 3/12/20, 4:37 PM
Yancey Ward said...: I got taken to a donation page, but will assume there is a plan underneath.

Here is my question- why does Biden have COVID-19 plan at all? He isn't in charge of anything.; 3/12/20, 4:41 PM
purplepenquin said...: Straight to a fundraising page with no way to continue without donating

It is easy to miss if ya just skim over the page, but in the upper right corner there is a link that says "Continue to JoeBiden.com"; 3/12/20, 4:44 PM
walter said...: Drago,
That's all just Biden style "engagement".

Anyone have any figures handy to compare $$ spent on CAGW vs antivirals?
Now everyone get back to patroning Chinese restaurants.; 3/12/20, 4:46 PM
walter said...: Biden will be a great Senator.; 3/12/20, 4:49 PM
Koot Katmandu said...: Hmm he is not president now. Who Gives a Schiff. Another reason to not vote for him. He is just not letting a good crises go to waste and attacking PDT. Very dishonest person. Hype the virus and the good people hoax. Put me in the never Biden camp even with out the dementia concerns.; 3/12/20, 4:50 PM
TheOne Who Is Not Obeyed said...: So a famous private citizen has a "plan" which he has absolutely no way of implementing in time to actually do any good. I believe this is called "political theater", which is what Progs do while conservatives are actually doing good.

Joe knows a butt-ton of rich people. Why doesn't he rally them to the cause and start air dropping money on people who are going to lose income from their work closing down for this panic? Why doesn't he, ya know --- LEAD in a way that he is actually able to?

Oh yeah, cuz he's not a leader. He's a Prog shithead.; 3/12/20, 4:56 PM
exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...: I kid you not, the Mayor of Florence actually initiated a "Hug a Chinese Day" in early February:

https://www.socialmediaasia.com/2020/02/05/the-mayor-of-florence-initiated-hug-a-chinese-on-twitter/

He showed that Wuhan Flu he's not a racist!; 3/12/20, 4:59 PM
narciso said...: biden's new campaign manager, was O'Rourke's old one,; 3/12/20, 5:02 PM
Spiros said...: Trump is getting trashed by the liberals for his new travel ban aimed at Europe. Turning away ships or planes or travelers to control the spread of a disease is not "irrational." During the Black Death, Italian cities closed their ports to suspect vessels and subjected travelers and legitimate ships to 40 days isolation (hence the term "quarantine"). Why are people so amped over this one part of Mr. Trump's response to Covid 19?; 3/12/20, 5:09 PM
Howard said...: If his plan is just like Trump's does it mean that he's going to delay the start of responding by 2 months because he's treating it as a public relations problem not a public health problem? Will he is sign Hunter's hooker girlfriend in law to be in charge of it like Jared? Will it be holding secret meetings that leave out the key technical personnel?

If this thing turns out to be anything other than a nothingburger it will be Trump's Waterloo; 3/12/20, 5:10 PM
Gk1 said...: Slow Joe is part of the at-risk population for the wuhan-virus. He better let his nurses take him inside before he gets exposed.; 3/12/20, 5:14 PM
Francisco D said...: Did Biden propose that we send a few $Billion to China build labs that will work on vaccines?

There was a rumor that Hunter was changing careers from oil & gas expertise to virology.; 3/12/20, 5:18 PM
rcocean said...: Biden will hit the ground running on day 1.

In which direction is unclear.; 3/12/20, 5:21 PM
rcocean said...: Could someone please ask God to turn down the thermostat.

Thank you.; 3/12/20, 5:22 PM
Greg the class traitor said...: The Biden plan: let's take the people at the CDC, FSA, and other bureaucracies, who've screwed up everything they've touched every step of the way, and put them in charge

Um, no; 3/12/20, 5:23 PM
wildswan said...: He's going to pass out stuff such as test kits and protective suits. Why aren't they being passed out now? Because there aren't enough. How will Biden snap them into existence? He'll call on experts - the CDC - Centers for Disease Control. But the CDC is the one leading the present response - the response that Biden is going to do better. The CDC has gotten 9 billion dollars since 2002 yet it isn't doing any of the things Biden says he'll get done. How? Who will do it. The CDC? Then why isn't the CDC doing it now? In 2017 the CDC got 300 million to track and treat Zika flu. But the CDC doesn't seem to have learned lessons or developed expertise even though two years ago they got hundreds of millions to track and treat a flu and even though Disease Control is their mission. How's Biden going to handle the problems at the CDC? How's Biden going to handle all the regulations preventing action? And what about China's hold on the manufacture of respirators and antibiotics? How's Biden going to handle that?

Biden's plan is little kid stuff. I'll ORDER them to pass out test kits (that don't exist). I'll work with scientists but not, of course, the ones presently (not) doing the job but some others which I'll find in the same place as the test kits and, also, I'll find a vaccine there and pass it out for free and it will work and unicorns will deliver everything under RAINBOWS.; 3/12/20, 5:27 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Reddit said ...
Get ready to spend the next few months arguing over which candidate and their family is more corrupt, which one is a worse liar, and which candidate’s brain is more broken.; 3/12/20, 5:29 PM
bonkti said...: I am struck by Biden's brilliance in solving the problem of COVID-19 induced school closings by funding federal child care centers. The kids won't be infected at school!; 3/12/20, 5:30 PM
Shouting Thomas said...: If you are of a conspiratorial frame of mind: Netflix aired a documentary called “Pandemic” only weeks before Coronavirus hysteria started. This series was an apocalyptic warning that a global pandemic was imminent. Netflix is closely allied to Obama and the DNC.

You could say that the Netflix series prepared the way for this panic. It all seems planned.

If I’d told you in 2016 that the DNC rigged its primaries for Hillary and that Obama ordered a spying campaign to undermine Trump’s presidential campaign, you’d have told me I was nuts, right?; 3/12/20, 5:48 PM
Unknown said...: If Trump was smart, he'd leak to the press that he wants Obama to run the Corona response. Obama can't say no, because he's an elder statesman and it is duty to country before self thing. Everyone would feel better, it neutralizes the partisan angle, and Biden can't yell about the Corona efforts.

If Biden was smart, he'd pick Romney as VP pick, and run as a unity ticket of normalcy.; 3/12/20, 5:58 PM
Jaq said...: There is only one candidate for POTUS who has been working to decouple our over reliance on China, and it’s not China Joe Biden.; 3/12/20, 6:01 PM
Jaq said...: The DOW tanked at the reality of the situation. Not just the DOW, but markets worldwide. You can blame Trump, that that’s just shooting the messenger.; 3/12/20, 6:03 PM
Jaq said...: After problems arose with the C.D.C.’s test, officials could have switched to using successful tests that other countries were already using. But the officials refused to do so, essentially because it would have required changing bureaucratic procedures.

The federal government could also have eased regulations on American hospitals and laboratories, to allow them to create and manufacture their own tests, as Melissa Miller of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Medicine told The Washington Post. But federal officials did not do so for weeks.

#Resist Hillary ordered her minions in the bowels of government.; 3/12/20, 6:05 PM
bagoh20 said...: " He helped lead the Obama-Biden Administration’s effective response to the 2009 H1N1 pandemic and the 2014 Ebola epidemic. "

Thanks for bringing that up.; 3/12/20, 6:07 PM
narciso said...: why interfere with; 3/12/20, 6:10 PM
Josephbleau said...: “This was Biden's screen test for being POTUS”

I’m ready for my closeup, Mr. Demille.; 3/12/20, 6:11 PM
Jaq said...: This little virtual community concept that’s been going on at Althouse holds up pretty well in the new reality... so far.; 3/12/20, 6:16 PM
MayBee said...: When I am president, I too will have a pandemic plan that stops the disease before it starts, makes sure everybody gets the same money they'd get if there were no pandemic, and I would ensure we have all the tests we need before we even know we need them!
And I'll make sure there is enough toilet paper throughout the land.

That's the Maybee Super Realistic Plan. Vote for me, or click on the amount you'd like to donate.; 3/12/20, 6:16 PM
MAJMike said...: Quid Pro Joe, the well-known plagiarist, plagiarizes again.; 3/12/20, 6:17 PM
bagoh20 said...: I wonder if having kids rub your hairy legs is a possible vector for infection.; 3/12/20, 6:20 PM
Michael K said...: Now we know where Biden's plan came from.; 3/12/20, 6:23 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: In a crisis all a real leader has is his credibility.

1. Fauci admitted to the House Oversight Committee that Americans are not able to get tested for the coronavirus 'easily'.

2. 'The idea of anybody getting tested easily the way people in other countries are doing it, we're not set up for that,' Fauci testified.

3. Fauci also said that this was a 'failing.' 'It is a failing. Let's admit it'.

4. A little while later on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue President Trump told reporters that testing for coronavirus cases in the U.S. 'is going very smooth'.; 3/12/20, 6:26 PM
JaimeRoberto said...: Like Elmer Fudd singing "Kill the Wabbit" to the tune of the Ride of the Valkyries, I've singing the tune with just the word "Coronavirus".; 3/12/20, 6:37 PM
Narayanan said...: Biden only need to satisfy who believe in science not who know science math etc.

In USA piece of cake divided by million.; 3/12/20, 6:37 PM
Mark said...: Biden's Plan -

First Page on the link -

GIVE ME YOUR MONEY!

Shameless. Piece. Of. Shit.; 3/12/20, 6:42 PM
Arashi said...: So clicked through and scanned the Obiden-Bama plan, and from what I read, it pretty much looked like all of the substantive items are already being done.

Plus, i am not sure how he would actually get the screaming, shouting negative nellies to stop, unless he plans to use the Armed Forces to make them stop and only talk nice about everything.

So, just a bunch of borrowed text with no real plan to do anything real - except route more tax dollars to supporters.

Meh.; 3/12/20, 6:53 PM
Achilles said...: The governor of Washington, Jay Inslee, just declared war on parents in King Pierce and Snohomish counties.

About 500,000 students in the public schools are out of school for 6 weeks.

Now about those property taxes...; 3/12/20, 6:54 PM
daskol said...: Why aren't more lefties blaming this on climate change? That's been rare in my experience.; 3/12/20, 7:01 PM
gspencer said...: Joe's Plan to Combat this virus (and all other viruses),

Go out to your deck, shotgun in hand, and set off several blasts. It'll drive anything away.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/02/20/joe-biden-shotgun-advice-could-land-jill-biden-in-jail; 3/12/20, 7:09 PM
hstad said...: What an idiot! Joe Biden says it's "xenophobic" or straight-up racist" to avoid Chinese restaurants, or was it AOC, during an outbreak in which, up until recently, almost all transmission to Americans was by Chinese travelers or US travelers returning from China.; 3/12/20, 7:11 PM
Gilbert Pinfold said...: @Minnesota Farm Guy: as a kid, I loved Lloyd Bridges in “Sea Hunt” but I have to admit that his comic turns in “Airplane!” And “Seinfeld” made him a star for the ages. And giving us Jeff and Beau.; 3/12/20, 7:11 PM
Rocketeer said...: Had anybody cross-referenced this with Neil Kinnock's COVID-19 plan?; 3/12/20, 7:13 PM
Rocketeer said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 3/12/20, 7:14 PM
Brown Hornet said...: A guy who can't manage his own mental state is going to manage a pandemic. Cool Story Joe.; 3/12/20, 7:16 PM
Gilbert Pinfold said...: For those grousing about testing: treatment-determining tests by law have to be done in a CLIA-compliant laboratory using a federally-approved test. Takes a long time to get a test approved under current law. Congress is the only way to change that, and the House is focused on getting $$ for abortion into emergency legislation, and not on relaxing the regulatory barriers to getting test approved.; 3/12/20, 7:21 PM
Drago said...: ARM: "In a crisis all a real leader has is his credibility."

You idiots spent 4 years calling Trump a russian spy and asset.

That about sums you up.; 3/12/20, 7:24 PM
chuck said...: Why aren't more lefties blaming this on climate change?

There is an hypothesis that viral infection go down during warm, humid weather. Nature is sending us a message...; 3/12/20, 7:28 PM
Ray said...: What benefit is testing to me if I have mild symptoms (I don't) and test positive. Will my treatment be different than if it's some other virus? Should we just test those with more severe symptoms?
It appears that some AIDS anti-viral drugs help. Who do we give those to? Will I get them if I have mild symptoms?

I guess I don't see why testing everyone does any good, other than for statistics.; 3/12/20, 7:33 PM
Jaq said...: So ARM’s big beef with Trump on the outbreak is that he didn’t overrule the CDC quickly enough on their demands to control all testing because we all know that Trump’s natural tendency would not be to go with the private sector but to stick to state control over testing.

I am sure that Biden or Clinton would have countermanded the “professionals” at the CDC much sooner. It’s the “professionals” at the CDC who screwed the pooch on testing. Of course one would expect the Democrats to have listened to their advice, so Democrats would have handled this much better.; 3/12/20, 7:35 PM
Jaq said...: " MSNBC’s Joy Reid hits Dems for including abortion in emergency spending bill: ‘What does that have to do with COVID-19?’”

Democrats are all business on this coronavirus thing...; 3/12/20, 7:37 PM
ken in tx said...: It would have never occurred to me to avoid Chinese Restaurants because all of the ones I know of are actually run by Koreans.; 3/12/20, 7:41 PM
Yancey Ward said...: Ok, Howard, where was Biden's plan in early February?; 3/12/20, 7:46 PM
Drago said...: The only thing the dems/left/LLR-left is doing more aggressively than attacking Trump is....defending the Chinese Communist government.

Unexpectedly.

It's almost as if the vast majority of these establishment hacks have been paid by the Chinese for 30 years.........; 3/12/20, 7:49 PM
Michael K said...: Fauci admitted to the House Oversight Committee that Americans are not able to get tested for the coronavirus 'easily'.

ARM thinks Trump is making COVID 19 test kits. One of the reasons why I am a Republican and you are a leftist tool is that I know bureaucracies don't get things done and you want them running everything.

Alex Comfort, a philosopher and MD once said, "In Britain the civil service is a life career. In America, it is a rogue form of private enterprise."

Trump was elected because GOVERNMENTS DON'T WORK. Tr to get over it.; 3/12/20, 7:50 PM
Jaq said...: Read about how the Democrats were pushing the sham impeachement while the Administration was fighing coronavirus

https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/03/12/gop-chair-explains-in-terrific-thread-what-dems-were-doing-while-admin-has-been-working-to-address-wuhan-virus/

Oh yeah, and calling Trump racist for interupting travel with China.

Here’s a sample:

Ronna McDaniel@GOPChairwoman
·
FEB 9: The Trump administration’s Coronavirus Task Force met with governors to coordinate response efforts.

Chuck Schumer was busy soliciting inspectors general to open NEW investigations into
@realDonaldTrump
. (5/8)

Democrats have been acting like human scum, working to undermine the president at every step. The bogus arguments about testing is just one example.

Testing has finally been turned over to the private sector and the CDC forced to back down on their rigid “protocols” and expect that we can soon have implemented the kinds of testing that other countries have implemented. Those other countries didn’t have politicized health ministries trying to undermine the head of state.; 3/12/20, 7:53 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: Chi-Com D-party plot... that's working.; 3/12/20, 7:55 PM
Narayanan said...: Blogger Michael K said...
Now we know where Biden's plan came from.
&&&&---_

Media scoffed at Trump.

Media will be praising Biden.; 3/12/20, 8:07 PM
Jaq said...: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/joe-biden-coronavirus-adviser-ezekiel-emanuel-wants-to-die-at-75/; 3/12/20, 8:09 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: Drudge Headline:
"scary scary... all gonna die soon!"
w/link to Talib-crazy-Jew-hater and leftwing Axios.

Later in the link:
"Asked by Tlaib whether he believed the projection was accurate, Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), told the hearing: "We really need to be careful with those kinds of predictions because that's based on a model."

He added that "all models are as good as the assumptions that you put into the model" and that with containment and mitigation the upper end of the projection could be avoided.

About 80 percent of coronavirus cases are mild, and the overall mortality rate is around one percent, according to the latest estimate provided by Fauci to Congress on Wednesday."

\
***churned thru media headline: We are all gonna die!; 3/12/20, 8:12 PM
Iman said...: Whose plan did he plagiarize?; 3/12/20, 8:21 PM
FullMoon said...: Most authorities tell us warmer weather is our best friend in fighting covid.

Sweet! Another good thing about global warming, less flu virus.; 3/12/20, 8:32 PM
Jaq said...: "You idiots spent 4 years calling Trump a russian spy and asset.”

They are human scum.; 3/12/20, 8:37 PM
Bruce Hayden said...: “So Biden's plan is basically Trump's plan but better cause he is going to spend more government (meaning our) money! He will issue more mandates, task bunches of folks to do more stuff, get more people on various government programs”

To simplify Biden’s plan:
- give control to the bureaucrats and hire more of them.
- bribe people to vote for Democrats by giving them free stuff

The problem, of course, is that the bureaucrats are why we got behind the ball in the first place. The State Department Obama holdover snuck the plane load of cruise ship people into the country, many apparently infected, and hence many of the infections in this country. And then they centralized testing kits under Obama/Biden. But the great thing about bureaucracies is that if they screw up they tend to get more money, because obviously, it wasn’t their incompetence that caused the screwup, but rather not having enough bureaucrats and money dedicated to the project. Contrast that, of course, with the private sector, where screwing up causes losses, and even bankruptcies. In the latter, there is an incentive to do it right. Not so much in the Dem big government model.; 3/12/20, 8:37 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: can I tell you a little story? It's dumb.
So yesterday I went to costco with an agenda. I wanted to buy copious amounts of liquid hand soap.
All. OUT.
That doesn't stop me from spending 300 dollars, tho. (doink)
I purchased 4 sensor lights that run off of little solar panels. Nifty! (for a job) and they are 10 bucks off on sale. Nifty! but sometimes costco sells crap, so my intention of course is keep the receipt, just in case.

I pile my cart with stuff for the basement to survive a month ahead of the upcoming apocalypse. I wait in a huge line, and I get the heck out of there. It was weird in there. Felt like zombies walking around. so quiet. No samples. just zombies filling carts waiting for the end. some people wearing face masks.

I get out of there thinking *I don't want to ever go back*. I venture to my next stop - Natural Grocers. Where I re-fill my water jugs with delicious 25 cent per gallon reverse osmosis water. Arrive - and as I pack the cart with my empties, on my way in I realize one of the jugs is missing a lid. So I park the cart in the parking lot and go back to my car to look for the lid. I open the passenger door and a gust of wind grabs that stupid costco receipt, which I left on the seat, and blows it into the sky. Like the wizard of oz. So I watch the piece of paper lift higher and higher into the sky and then vanish over the Fex-ex store and probably down east pearl.
why am I telling you this? turns out, you can go to costco at any time and they will re-print your receipt. So I did. I went back. to costco. to the service desk and viola- I have my receipt again. Just out of curiosity, I wanted to see if they happened to stock that soap. Ventured in. (eee gads) NO soap. but holy batjeeebzues. The zombie lines were worse. They queued and wound back and around whole aisles towards the back of the store. I've never seen anything like it. people were buying refrigerators.; 3/12/20, 8:37 PM
Don said...: I am buying Costco stock tomorrow; 3/12/20, 8:52 PM
Jaq said...: What you need is one of those infrared thermometer guns from Home Depot that you can point at somebody’s skin and tell if they have a fever.; 3/12/20, 9:07 PM
Michael K said...: The problem, of course, is that the bureaucrats are why we got behind the ball in the first place. The State Department Obama holdover snuck the plane load of cruise ship people into the country, many apparently infected, and hence many of the infections in this country.

Why do you think the tests are not available ? Ann's son thinks it's Trump's fault. No explaining; 3/12/20, 9:07 PM
Jaq said...: "- give control to the bureaucrats and hire more of them. “

The CDC fucked up the testing and Biden doubles. down on what people are calling Trump’s biggest blunder.; 3/12/20, 9:08 PM
FullMoon said...: That doesn't stop me from spending 300 dollars, tho.

One simple pleasure of Costco shopping is watching how many people check their reciepts in confusion. "I couldn't have spent that much?!" That, and seeing the person waiting thirty minutes in return line bringing back a box of cereal or something.

I go by myself with a list, get whats on the list. Go with the wife, get the list and a dozen other things.

Regarding reciept, pretty sure they can bring up every purchase you ever made on the computer.; 3/12/20, 9:10 PM
Jaq said...: "Ann's son thinks it's Trump's fault. No explaining”

Trump fucked up. He trusted the CDC. The CDC has finally accepted that they are not up to the job of maintaining a monopoly on testing have have given over to LabCore.

The tests aren’t hard to make. What was hard was getting approval from the CDC.

Jon has no fucking clue.; 3/12/20, 9:10 PM
phantommut said...: After reading that I think I'll be farting smoke for weeks.; 3/12/20, 9:13 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: You guys know that it's all over. Trump is not getting reelected. No one recovers from fuck-ups like this. He single-handedly ran up a stock bubble and then burst that same bubble all by himself. He is Bush 2.0, with an equity bubble instead of real estate bubble. We look like a third world country on testing. Not just not the best medical system in the world, but one of the most incompetent, and it failed in the area where Trump has full responsibility.; 3/12/20, 9:13 PM
Jaq said...: You are human scum ARM. Throughout this whole crisis all you have been doing is finding the partisan politicss angle.

You tell me that a president Clinton would have overruled the CDC from the start on testing. You know it would be a lie. You just make up shit for partisan advantage.; 3/12/20, 9:18 PM
Jaq said...: Putin obviously wants a POTUS who backs fracking. I mean this week demonstrates that, doesn’t it? That Putin wouldn’t want a Democrat in power who would shut down US fracking without Putin having to suffer the pain of a price war to do it. He would rather do it the hard way. How many millions did he sink into Hillary? How much Gazprom stock did he give to Hillary’s campaign manager?

Why? Because she promised to shut down fracking.; 3/12/20, 9:26 PM
Ray said...: If Clinton was President we'd never know there was a problem at CDC until he was out of office. In the short term he'd blame Rush Limbaugh; 3/12/20, 9:30 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Aunty Trump ...
human scum

You are a coward acting like a deranged man on the internet.; 3/12/20, 9:35 PM
Jaq said...: "You are a coward acting like a deranged man on the internet.”

Why? For pointing out your bullshit? you can’t defend it. You just keep repeating it.; 3/12/20, 9:37 PM
Jaq said...: Are you seriously saying that a Democrat would have overruled the CDC on testing and gone to private industry right from the start ARM?; 3/12/20, 9:39 PM
Jaq said...: Taiwan handled the outbreak using police state tactics to do contact tracing that would have been highly illegal in the United States. BTW.; 3/12/20, 9:40 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Just pointing out reality. If the same things had been done by Clinton, or anyone, they would be failed presidents as well. But Trump makes it worse because he has been so obnoxiously critical of other people's failures. No rational person can reasonably feel any sympathy for him.; 3/12/20, 9:42 PM
Jaq said...: I know ARM. "Details details, don’t bother me with details, I have propaganda to push!"; 3/12/20, 9:43 PM
Jaq said...: "Just pointing out reality. If the same things had been done by Clinton, or anyone, they would be failed presidents as well. But Trump makes it worse because he has been so obnoxiously critical of other people's failures. No rational person can reasonably feel any sympathy for him."

That’s no answer, ARM. It’s a confession that you have nothing but bullshit.; 3/12/20, 9:44 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: I submit the H1N1 virus was just as bad, but nobody cared.

Because nice pant crease.; 3/12/20, 9:49 PM
Lewis Wetzel said...: We look like a third world country on testing. Not just not the best medical system in the world, but one of the most incompetent, and it failed in the area where Trump has full responsibility.
Trump is responsible for testing me for covid-19?; 3/12/20, 9:50 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Trump has to provide answers, he's the man in the spotlight. I only need to observe. Why don't you ask him why he has fucked up so comprehensively? Or, ask all his idiot political appointee sycophants, or his son-in-law. What a comprehensive shit show.; 3/12/20, 9:50 PM
Jaq said...: Trump is the only one who has been pushing decoupling from China from day one. Joe was over there, dragging his son along on Air Force Two to collect graft.; 3/12/20, 9:51 PM
Jaq said...: Crackhead son.; 3/12/20, 9:51 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Lewis Wetzel said...
Trump is responsible for testing me for covid-19?

Trump is responsible for running the federal government. 'The buck stops here.'; 3/12/20, 9:53 PM
Jaq said...: "and it failed in the area where Trump has full responsibility.”

He did fuck up. He trusted the “professionals” at the CDC. Just like Hillary would have, just like Biden would have, Just like Obama would have.

This is the CDC #Resisting Trump that led to this.; 3/12/20, 9:54 PM
Jaq said...: 'The buck stops here.’

#Resist. - Hillary Clinton.; 3/12/20, 9:54 PM
Lyle said...: ARM,

This comment section is going to air bukakke on that hirsute face of yours when Trump is reelected.; 3/12/20, 9:57 PM
Lewis Wetzel said...: Keep up that Trump hate, ARM! It's worked before!
Hasn't it?; 3/12/20, 9:57 PM
Michael K said...: Trump is responsible for running the federal government. 'The buck stops here.'

You, of course, have experience in running 10 million person bureaucracies that hate you. Right?; 3/12/20, 10:00 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Lyle said...
Trump is reelected.

It's a two horse race, anything is possible. Biden might have a stroke. But, it will be very difficult for Trump to come back from two massive screw-ups, both his personal responsibility.; 3/12/20, 10:01 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: It is not hate to point out what an incompetent Trump is. It is acknowledging reality.; 3/12/20, 10:03 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: Biden is the answer. embrace the Chi-Com barisma and Hunter-stripper paternity porche hollywood home pork.; 3/12/20, 10:05 PM
Lewis Wetzel said...: No, it's hate, ARM. Here's how you point out how a person is incompetent w/o hate:
"Person x is incompetent. We know this because . . .
A)
B)
C)
Where A, B, and C are not personal opinions.

For example, We know that Biden is incompetent because he A) opposed the first Iraq War (the good one), B) supported the second Iraq War (the bad one), and C) He graduated 78 out of 85 at a third tier law school.

See how that works?; 3/12/20, 10:12 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: How about using an objective measure? How did the stock market respond to Trump's 'reassuring' speech from the Oval Office. People voted with their money. Not some BS ABC. He is a train-wreck, on the rare occasions when he does anything.; 3/12/20, 10:17 PM
pacwest said...: @ARM
I agree. The stock market was overvalued. P/E's were in the 22 range. People aren't going to put their money in 1% T-bills. There may have been some over-optimism regarding the trade war involved? After a 10 year run Trump was all in on pumping it up more (you'll have your own opinion on why). Anyway, a bear market isn't that suprising on its own even without CV-1. P/E's are below 17 (the recent norm) now. There'll be at least 2 bad quarters of GDP growth at least, so expect the market to go lower yet. It will certainly hurt him politically, but probably not to the extent you hope imo. He has managed to come through his previous "Katrinas" without too many scars. And, trying to anticipate you, yep, that's another few of hundred million added to the debt; 3/12/20, 10:17 PM
Jaq said...: "How did the stock market respond to Trump's 'reassuring' speech from the Oval Office.”

Shoot the messenger logic. More stupidity from Althouse’s own Tokyo Rose.; 3/12/20, 10:23 PM
Jaq said...: Actually ARM is doing the work of Putin. Working every day pumping out propaganda to get an anti-fracker elected president. And China’s bidding, trying to get China’s bought and paid for Joe Biden elected.; 3/12/20, 10:25 PM
Jaq said...: ARM thinks that Trump should have acted on the problem of spread mainly from Italy in a way that would have lulled markets into a false sense of security, even if it meant importing more infected people from Italy and the borderless free movement area of mainland Europe.

Here’s a hint, ARM. Public health measures are more important, even if it means that the billionaires whose knobs the Democrats live to like lose money.; 3/12/20, 10:28 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: pacwest said...
After a 10 year run Trump was all in on pumping it up more (you'll have your own opinion on why). Anyway, a bear market isn't that suprising on its own even without CV-1.

I have been saying this for the last two years. It is very similar to the Bushes blowing up the Florida real estate market for their own short term gain. And, its all fun and games until real voters start losing real money. I think your assessment of the voter's patience for this kind of thing is unrealistic. I could be wrong.; 3/12/20, 10:31 PM
Greg the class traitor said...: Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
Lewis Wetzel said...
Trump is responsible for testing me for covid-19?

Trump is responsible for running the federal government. 'The buck stops here.'

No, Trump is not responsible for the failures of "health professionals" at the CDC and FDA that he did not hire, and can not fire.

Claiming otherwise just shows how dishonest and unreasonable you are; 3/12/20, 10:34 PM
Jaq said...: "It is very similar to the Bushes blowing up the Florida real estate market for their own short term gain.”

Is there any conspiracy theory too absurd for you to swallow whole?; 3/12/20, 10:35 PM
Jaq said...: ARM has been lecturing us for years on the uselessness of American workers and how the only reasonable way forward for our economy is increased globalization. How does that look now compared to Trump’s efforts at decoupling our economies and bringing manufacturing home?

How does it look now to have most of our key drug manufacturing done in a country that is currently accusing us of creating the Wuhan flu as a bioweapon?; 3/12/20, 10:38 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Greg the class traitor said...
No, Trump is not responsible for the failures of "health professionals" at the CDC and FDA that he did not hire, and can not fire.

He is absolutely responsible. His administration fired the U.S. pandemic response team in 2018 to cut costs.; 3/12/20, 10:40 PM
Jaq said...: Was it ever a good idea for us to send our steel production to a country that clearly hates us? Joe Biden says “Sure!"; 3/12/20, 10:41 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Tranny Trump said...
ARM has been lecturing us for years on the uselessness of American workers

Drago has established a new standard for this blog. If you attribute a belief or statement to someone you must provide a link.

Link, please.; 3/12/20, 10:41 PM
Jaq said...: Everybody knows it’s true. You may not have used those exact words, but I am sure that if you search on the word “competitive” you will find a close enough wording.

Why does my chosen gender bother you so much?; 3/12/20, 10:47 PM
Jaq said...: And it’s hysterical seeing a person who almost always refuses to reply to questions demanding replies.; 3/12/20, 10:47 PM
FullMoon said...: Drago has established a new standard for this blog. If you attribute a belief or statement to someone you must provide a link.

Nah, your girl Inga says ya gotta prove it didn't happen..; 3/12/20, 10:48 PM
Achilles said...: Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

It's a two horse race, anything is possible. Biden might have a stroke. But, it will be very difficult for Trump to come back from two massive screw-ups, both his personal responsibility.

Anyone who would say something like this is either really stupid and gullible or just a piece of shit.; 3/12/20, 10:56 PM