At the end of this clip, Trump jokes about Rep. John Dingell being in hell after his wife, Rep. Debbie Dingell, voted for impeachment pic.twitter.com/i72Qnn49GM— Brandon Squall (@Walldo) December 19, 2019
"Everything! I gave him everything. That’s okay. I don’t want anything for it. I don’t need anything for anything. [His widow] calls me up, 'It’s the nicest thing that’s ever happened, thank you so much, John would be so thrilled, he’s looking down, he’d be so thrilled. Thank you so much, sir.' I said that’s okay, don’t worry about it. Maybe he’s looking up, I don’t know. I don’t know. Maybe. Maybe."
Up. Down. Who knows which way Heaven is? Maybe Heaven is down and Hell is up, and Trump was toying with the directional mysteries of the afterlife. But no sense denying it. He was goofing around with the idea that a dead person may be watching not from Heaven but from Hell.
The widow is Debbie Dingell, who now occupies her late husband's seat in Congress. Olivia Nuzzi writes in NY Magazine:
I told her what the president said, apologizing for even repeating the words. She paused. She said she wasn’t sure what to say. She said she had to think about it.Why tweak the widow? Because he gave her something and she wouldn't give something back?
Forty-five minutes later, she issued her statement: “Mr. President, let’s set politics aside. My husband earned all his accolades after a lifetime of service. I’m preparing for the first holiday season without the man I love. You brought me down in a way you can never imagine and your hurtful words just made my healing much harder.”
To me, she said: “I’ve been one of the most measured members there is, so he may be mad because — I don’t know why he’s mad. I can’t explain why he’s fixated on me.... I really miss my husband today.... I’m raw. I’m sad. But I’m not gonna sit home and feel sorry for myself. I’m gonna go out and do what he would want me to do, and that is to be there for other people.”
“But I didn’t give him the B treatment,” Trump said. “I didn’t give him the C or the D — I could’ve. I gave the A-plus treatment.” As if to impersonate Debbie, he said, “Take down the flags.” Then, in a voice that suggested someone else asked him the question, he said, “Why you taking them down?” He answered the question in his own voice, “For ex-Congressman Dingell.” Then he assumed the other character, “Oh, okay.” Then he was Debbie again, “Do this, do that, do that. Rotunda.”He gave a lot. So what does that mean? This for that? She should have given quid pro quo?
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1 – 200 of 386 Newer› Newest»In fairness to Dingell, he was the one who called the ATF "Jack booted thugs."
Debbie Dingell is a great name for a politician.
As I recall, last night Trump also joked about himself looking up from Hell. "Who knows?"
John and Debbie are two dingleberries.
Like Debbie Dingell believes in Heavan, much less Hell. Right. Just like Nancy Pelosi prays every night for the President.
Althouse you didn't mention the audience reaction to the Trump line. It seemed to me to be a mixture of shock, horror, general offense and disapproval.
John Dingell's base voters were mostly-white auto, steel and construction workers. Dingell was a life member of the NRA, and a staunch defender of gun rights. In other words, Trump was disparaging a hero of some of his own core voters in Michigan.
Dingells, father, son, and wife, have been on the congressional payroll continuously since 1933.
Dingell was the longest serving member of Congress. 60 years.
No doubt he is in hell
When Trump was a candidate and not showing proper respect for John McCain, John Dingell told Trump to go to HELL and Trump never forgets:
John Dingell TWEET 11/12/16:
On behalf of so many of my fellow veterans:
Please take two running jumps and go to hell, Mr. Trump.
Trump should not have said it. This is not a justification for Trump's comment, but Debbie Dingell should not have been elected because of her husband. No way she would have been elected but for her husband.
Hell hath no fury like a woman thinking of her husband living it up in heaven, she'd rather he be in hell.
So Debbie had to call the spokesperson to write something up.
I have an impression that people say worse things about Trump. Without looking, could I guess that both Dingells have done so?
A plague on both their houses.
lol, Martha nailed it: Dingell told Trump to go to hell once.
Trump absolutely should have said it. It was funny.
Every day we have to face up to the fact that this disgusting, adulterous, bully of a man is actually a pretty good president, and that the country is in great shape.
If they were going to impeach the guy on an accurate charge, it would have been for enjoying himself too much... :)
Haven't we seen this a million times before:
1) Trump makes a mild *ambiguous* joke or comment
2) DNC-Media lIes or spins it as a hateful attack or comment
3) Democrats and Media trash Trump for being so nasty and hateful
4) Concerned RINOs/moderates tut-tut and are concerned
Now it will be repeated ad nauseum that "Trump said Dingell was in hell" BUT he said no such thing.
He was obviously riffing on some resentment; Dingell may have been a corrupt old bull and Debbie D a beeyotch (I know little about either one, even after reading a dozen comments) but
I don't have to pretend that Trump's shit don't stink.
Narr
I didn't pretend it for Obama either
Fake outrage from the Widow. This is Cindy McCain redux. Something about the second wives of members of Congress.
Trump as President has treated the families of the dead Establishment Pols with great respect. McCain, Bush I, Dingell, and there are others. He's let some of them use Air Force 2, issued nice statements, ignored their previous nasty behavior toward him, flew flags at half-mast when he didn't have to do, gave them state funerals, etc.
And all he's gotten back is nastiness and attacks. Given the impeachment is a fake, there's no reason Widow Dingell couldn't have voted Present. Or simply understood Trump was making a joke. But she's obviously looking out for No. 1 and a House run in 2020.
I was right.
Trump did joke about himself being in Hell.
Nice guy, that Trump.
He sure does like the concept of quid pro quo.
It seemed to me to be a mixture of shock, horror, general offense and disapproval.
Do you think the audience was looking at a picture of you, Chuck?
Another impeachable offense!
“Trump as President has treated the families of the dead Establishment Pols with great respect. McCain, Bush I, Dingell, and there are others. He's let some of them use Air Force 2, issued nice statements, ignored their previous nasty behavior toward him, flew flags at half-mast when he didn't have to do, gave them state funerals, etc.”
Apparently he doesn’t give anything without strings being attached.
Our Founding Fathers, the guys Pelsoi just discovered are really great, really wanted to promote family dynasties in American governance. Yep indeed.
As a former long-time resident of Michigan, I can assure you that John Dingell has earned his spot down there.
Chuck--Trump was in Battle Creek in a crowd of Trump voters. No one thought that was anything but funny. Give it up.
Screw them. I expect he is in hell and his wife will join him.
John Dingell walks into Hell and Satan says "Why the long face?"
Wait a minute, Chuck. If Dingell was a staunch supporter of gun rights, wouldn't he absolutely be in hell? What a tangled web we weave...
Trump is speculating about the existence of gentlemen's agreements. Debbie is playing the horrible man shtick. Maybe her husband got out of hell when he died.
there is a Hell, Michigan
Amadeus 48 said...
Chuck--Trump was in Battle Creek in a crowd of Trump voters. No one thought that was anything but funny. Give it up.
Not just Trump voters; Trump fanatics. Cultists. Who could rightly have been expected to be cheering every line from Trump's mouth.
But the Dingell line fell flat in a terrible way.
Fred Upton (R MI-6) condemned the Trump line.
Deploraville comedy gold.
Agree with rocean's 8:47 comment.
"She should have given quid pro quo?"
Yes - quid pro quo is the currency of DC. It is the basis for all legislation that gets passed.
That’s the downside of atheism i— i don’t have the comfort of assuming that my enemies will be looking up at me from a pit somewhere deep in Hell.
Serious Question
Can Anybody (Cooke? Igna? Howard? Chuck?) prove that he's NOT in hell?
All i'm asking; is for you to PROVE IT
Frank Beckmann is the host of a talk radio program on the Clear Channel mega-station WJR in Detroit. His program leads into the Rush Limbaugh broadcast for much of the Midwest. Beckmann is a devout hater of Rashida Tlaib, and he is of course a big fan and supporter of Donald Trump.
Right now, he is talking about what a sad error it was for Trump to have uttered the line.
There's no reason that a guy who got away with fake virtue all his life wouldn't continue to get away with it in heaven.
Dingell tweeted Trump to go to hell (over Trump criticizing McCain). So fair play.
It’s OK to laugh at jokes. When did people become such pussies?
I'm more offended by the notion the seat of a guy who died in office, after what, 60 years of "public service", should be gifted to his spouse. What kinda BS is that? That seat belongs to the family now?
Also, obligatory Wellstone memorial/Dem rally reference.
Yes, I remember well the outrage over Dingell’s intern tweeting for Trump to go to hell.
Is he in heaven? — Is he in hell?
That damned, elusive Pimpernel
"I don't give them Hell. I just tell the truth about them, and they think it's Hell." — Trum[p]an
Right now, he is talking about what a sad error it was for Trump to have uttered the line.
Yuuuge mistake, a person can never get elected as President of the United States, making errors like that...Oh..wait a minute, never mind.
What qualifications did Debbie Dingle display to be the replacement for her late husband? Apparently our ruling class sees seats in the legislature as an aristocratic right to be handed down to family members.
Scott Adams is covering the joke now.
"Cuck: Althouse you didn't mention the audience reaction to the Trump line. It seemed to me to be a mixture of shock, horror, general offense and disapproval."
LOL, she posted the video you dumb fuck. People were laughing.
"Fred Upton (R MI-6) condemned the Trump line"
OMFG! The Fred Upton?
Dingell didn’t die in office. He left a few years before he died. He gifted his wife the seat. He didn’t bequeath it to her. The voters in that district seem to like having a Dingell represent them. Reminds them of the days before the UAW bosses didn’t sell them out to other countries.
Scott Adams says Debbie Dingle is a piece of shit. unquote.
So Debbie had to call the spokesperson to write something up
Exactly. Widow politician calculating and exploiting her status. I’m not moved.
In 2020 it’s OK to assume some one is in Heaven.
It’s not OK to recognize God makes the decision.
You can’t make fun of Dead Congress Members.
Allah forbids it
Olivia Nuzzi ran to her to tell her the tidings, make her miserable, and get her reaction? Pathetic thing to do. I guess that's the news.
Surprised Norwood hasn’t chimed in.
". . . You brought me down in a way you can never imagine and your hurtful words just made my healing much harder.”
And so she gives Trump the power to break her heart. You brought me down in a way you can never imagine and your hurtful words just made my healing much harder.”
Moliere had a comedy about a widow who liked the sympathy and kept it up for years.
Matt said...
I'm more offended by the notion the seat of a guy who died in office, after what, 60 years of "public service", should be gifted to his spouse. What kinda BS is that? That seat belongs to the family now?
She won a primary. She won it easily. Before then, she had a notable career in politics. She was talked about as a Democratic nominee for Carl Levin's Senate seat before she went to Congress. She had been elected in a statewide vote for the Wayne State University Board of Governors. She had been a Republican in the past, and had worked in public relations for GM before that. I think she chaired both the Gore and the Kerry presidential campaigns in Michigan.
Dingle does Dallas.
Maybe Dems can quickly add another Artice of Impeachment: Article 3: Hurt a Dem Representatives feelings, or so her spokesperson says.
MikeR said...
Olivia Nuzzi ran to her to tell her the tidings, make her miserable, and get her reaction? Pathetic thing to do. I guess that's the news.
That's the remarkable thing to me. She wasnt offended because she heard Trump say something mean about her deceased hub. In fact, she would not have been offended at all unless and until someone ran to her to make sure she knew and that they could gin up some outrage to use. Outrage being currency to spend. Children in politics. Old widows in politics.
F it. We're sick of milquetoast Republicans like Romney that soooooo want to be liked by the Cool Kids (Democrats) that they roll over and show their bellies when attacked.
Trump got elected because we want someone who FIGHTS BACK.
Put the civility bullshit tag on this one Ann.
Cocaine Mitch:
Nancy Pelosi's work "constitutionally incoherent."
hahahaha.
He gifted his wife the seat. He didn’t bequeath it to her. The voters in that district seem to like having a Dingell represent them.
In fairness, that district has been deep blue so thoroughly for so long that the Democrats could pretty much put anyone in their and the voters would dutifully vote them in simply because they have a (D) by their name.
The house are so freaked out by the idea the Senate might shine light on the left's lies, they are refusing to release it to the Senate.
LOL!
It’s hard to believe Michigan has had such tough times with Statesmen such as John Dingell and John Conyers representing their interests for so long.
I’m sure The Second Wife will succeed where they didn’t. It’s a shame Conyers wife went to prison for bribery. She could have taken over his seat. Instead, Tlaib has it
I'm a new widow. My husband had a marvelous sense of humor. The worst thing I could do if I want to honor him would be to stop laughing. Obviously, Dingell believed in hell. Speculation about whether that's where he now resides is fair game. Mrs. Dingell will have a better holiday if she lightens up- unless, of course, being married to her husband made living in misery her natural state.
Shorter Chuck: Orange Man Bad.
Romney is in it for the money. He needs to keep his 5 Stepford Sons fed and clothed in style.
How do they make a living? Follow the Money
Inga said...
Nice guy, that Trump.
He sure does like the concept of quid pro quo.
Which is why we like him. Because he does unto you scum bags like you do unto the rest of us.
Don't want to get it? Then stop dishing it out
He was 55 when he married the 28 year-old Debbie who, according to the half-your-age-plus-7 formula, makes him something of a child predator.
"...your hurtful words just made my healing much harder.” [emph added]
I have a strong instinctive reaction of disgust to anybody who talks like this, regardless of circumstance.
Looks like the Cuck/90 IQ alliance is unshaken!!!! Trump’s in real trouble now!!! Real Republicans and disgusting hags agree (as usual)!!
How is it that folks talk as if all dead people have a panoramic view of everything going on on earth for all of eternity? I don't think this is part of Christian doctrine, is it? (Confucian, maybe?) And then the same people who talk about dear old so-and-so looking down on them make sure to select a grave-site so that dear old so-and-so will "have a good view". So which is it?
wikipedia: In his later years, Dingell became an active Twitter user, and earned over 250,000 followers for his witty and sarcastic posts attacking Republicans, particularly Donald Trump.[78] He earned the nickname "the Dean of Twitter".[79]
Must be hell to be the Dean of Twitter in Hell and no longer be able to tell Republicans to go to hell.
I just love how LLR-lefty Chuck, huge far left marxist Lawfare fanboy and predictor of a great Hillary victory in Michigan, pretends to understand voters!!
I also recall LLR-lefty Chuck was diametrically opposed to Brexit and made fun of Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage and the entire Brexit voter base in Great Britain.
Anyone seeing a pattern here?..............
Dr. Althouse, do I recall correctly that you have a "lightweight religion" tag?
Trump is playing with this. He's calling out the glib references to the deceased "smiling down from heaven" to support a contentious stance or decision. In his ineluctably crass, crude way, he's reminding us that we are not the judges deciding salvation or damnation. In fact, I find it difficult to take any self-professed Christian seriously who doesn't start from "Judge not, lest ye be judged" and "For all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God." Part and parcel of Christianity is the possibility of eternal damnation—in fact, it's the default outcome. So crass and crude though it is, Trump is right to point out the inherent glibness, not to mention lack of ecumenical humility, in assuming the opposite.
”In fairness to Dingell, he was the one who called the ATF ’Jack booted thugs.’"
He called it right.
We planned for the 12th Michigan (Dingell) to be blue! It was so that we could build R+ districts in the 7th, 8th and 11th.
The problem in 2018 was that suburban educated voters turned away from Trumpist Republicans in the 8th and 11th and elected moderate Democrats. Net loss of two seats for Republicans.
Rotunda? I don’t remember John Dingell lying in state in the Capitol Rotunda. And that wouldn’t have been Trump’s to give. I think Trump is thinking of himself. He’s worried that as an impeached President he won’t get the Rotunda. He won’t get the A+ treatment. Well, maybe in 100 years.
Meade: "Must be hell to be the Dean of Twitter in Hell and no longer be able to tell Republicans to go to hell."
Telling republicans to "go to hell" and defending Stolen Valor democrats and praising lunatic left wing media persons and backing every far left democrat policy and talking point is now the sole province of the LLR's. Exemplified nicely at Althouseblog by FakeCon and banned poster LLR-lefty Chuck.
LLR-lefty Chuck's racist rantings and vicious attacks on women and children are just something he likes tossing into the mix for free.
And now that banned commenter LLR-lefty Chuck has rejoined with banned far left idiot commenter Inga, all must seem right in their little lefty bubble worlds.
Premise - R and D go to different places when they die.
Premise - heaven? (like minded?) and hell? (diversity?) are defined by company you get to keep in each.
Which wud Dingell choose
Cuck: "She won a primary. She won it easily. Before then, she had a notable career in politics. She was talked about as a Democratic nominee for Carl Levin's Senate seat before she went to Congress. She had been elected in a statewide vote for the Wayne State University Board of Governors. She had been a Republican in the past, and had worked in public relations for GM before that. I think she chaired both the Gore and the Kerry presidential campaigns in Michigan."
Uh, the whole time she was Dingell's wife or widow. So what's your point.
"Chuck said...
We planned for the 12th Michigan (Dingell) to be blue! It was so that we could build R+ districts in the 7th, 8th and 11th.
The problem in 2018 was that suburban educated voters turned away from Trumpist Republicans in the 8th and 11th and elected moderate Democrats. Net loss of two seats for Republicans."
"We" LOL
Michigan is going to lose another congressional district after the 2020 census.
Just like it has been doing.
LLR-lefty Chuck: "The problem in 2018 was that suburban educated voters turned away from Trumpist Republicans in the 8th and 11th and elected moderate Democrats. Net loss of two seats for Republicans."
Its always funny when LLR-lefty Chuck forgets that he's supposed to be playing a conservative all the time!!
In 2016 when republicans swept the House, Senate and White House, LLR-lefty Chuck's rage boiled over and he called that sweeping and fantastic win a literal "disaster".
In 2018 when the dems won the House LLR-lefty Chuck let the mask slip off completely as he giddily celebrated the dems win and the return of Nancy Pelosi. I would go so far as to say that immediate period after the dems won the House was the happiest and most joyful time posting at Althouseblog for LLR-lefty Chuck that any of us has ever seen.
Unfortunately for LLR-lefty Chuck, since that time, after all of LLR-lefty Chuck's dire economic and foreign policy predictions came crashing down in the wake of America's and Trump's victories, LLR-lefty Chuck has been less happy.............
Axiom: When LLR-lefty Chuck is happy, America is doing poorly. When LLR-lefty Chuck is most miserable, America and all its citizens are winning bigly.
"I'm more offended by the notion the seat of a guy who died in office, after what, 60 years of "public service", should be gifted to his spouse"
And his father gave it to him.
"and elected moderate Democrats"
After yesterday, there is no such thing as a "moderate" Democrat.
We planned on bleeding population to other states and having our manufacturing base reduced in favor of China so the Amash family could get wealthy.
We also planned on Ohio State kicking the shit out of our football team the last 20 years.
We are big planners.
Meade: "After yesterday, there is no such thing as a "moderate" Democrat."
That has been true for quite some time. Post obamacare passage really.
Note: LLR-lefty Chuck has passionately defended obamacare and has fiercely defended his "magnificent" obama on many other issues as well.
Did you know LLR-lefty Chuck is still running around claiming obama gave us this great economy?
LOLOLOL
Not even the dems are trying to force that lie out there any longer because, obviously, when they do everyone laughs at them.
But not our LLR-lefty Chuck!! He's just raring to go in his continuous full-throated defense and praise of all things obama!! Because that's what a "principled conservative" would do, don't you know?
We planned on fucking up the drinking water in Flint and decimating Detroit to a third-world shithole.
He was 55 when he married the 28 year-old Debbie who, according to the half-your-age-plus-7 formula, makes him something of a child predator.
I’m sure God could also do the math.
And the city fathers of flint, voided al thr convictions, to pursue new targets
He was 55 when he married the 28 year-old Debbie who, according to the half-your-age-plus-7 formula, makes him something of a child predator.
Be very careful when making fun of democrats and commies in front of LLR-lefty Chuck. Chuck really really really really hates when people make fun of democrats and commies.
Seriously, it gets really ugly really quickly, particularly in how LLR-lefty Chuck starts going after conservative republicans with distinguished military records, conservative women and the children of conservatives. LLR-lefty Chuck seems to hate those 3 categories of people the most.
I wonder what Freud would say about that?
We planned on GM and Chrysler going bankrupt
John Dingle, looking up, at one of The Greatest to ever make America great again.
"After yesterday, there is no such thing as a "moderate" Democrat."
True. You hear that, Althouse?
Nor is there such a thing as a "moderate" Republican: those nice suburban women now know how nasty the Dems are. They have a choice, but it is not between nice and uncouth.
Those women are in the suburbs because they don’t want their kids growing up around blacks. Or whites like Eminem.
Instead, they want their boys to identify as girls so they can get soccer scholarships to The Ohio State University. Where they will be among winners.
@Sebastian— Are we to believe you are not a moby? a false flagger?
I'm bored with the permanent internet crisis.
I've tuned it out.
@Meade, I believe that the 2020 slogan is "Keep America Great." Makes one buy another cap.
Democrats are corrupt liars who layer more corruption on top in order to cover for their sacred cows (Biden/Hillary)
Trump is uncouth? So what?
The IG report reveals massive corruption - and the media gloss over it with BS "nothing to see here!" for their corrupt party.
and on and on....
Say what you will about impeachment, but the guy really is a dick.
What Rory said at 8:38AM..the Dingell family has been on the federal payroll for almost 90 years. So screw them and their so-called public service.
If you want any of "those nice suburban women" to help reelect the president, you might want to rethink the strategy of going into the comment section and personally insulting them on their own blog.
She didn't meet the "half his age plus 7" thing when they (the Dingells) were married. With the new 21st Century standards on 20th Century behavior, doesn't that disqualify her from having an opinion on anything, ever?
Look, anybody not in Hell should provide evidence that they're not in Hell.
That's what somebody who isn't in Hell would do.
Paraphrasing Swalwell.
Meade: "If you want any of "those nice suburban women" to help reelect the president, you might want to rethink the strategy of going into the comment section and personally insulting them on their own blog."
There is the parallel danger of going into the comments section and deciding going Full Eddie Haskell Suckup Mode is the way to go.
Who can forget LLR-lefty Chuck's hilarious over the top sickly-sweet treacly suckup-ery to Althouse after having been banned from the blog?
LOL
And he just kept on doing it.
Truly amusing.
The Suburban Women are splitting their votes between Mayor Pete and The Washington Redskin.
It’s going to be Biden against Bernie. Winner gets Trump.
The Suburban Women are going to be first against the wall
LOL Swede@10:10
"Truly amusing."
Agreed.
Our Poor Chuck explains what he means by "Republican"...
She had been a Republican in the past, and had worked in public relations for GM before that. I think she chaired both the Gore and the Kerry presidential campaigns in Michigan.
NOW it ALL MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE!!
To Our Poor Chuck; a "Republican" is someone that "chaired bot the Gore and the Kerry presidential campaigns"
Thanks Chuck! I have been Wondering, for quite some time, WHY you referred to yourself as a "Republican"
Now, it makes Much More Sense!!
"banned poster"
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
At first you said Althouse banned him. Over&over&over again you repeated this, yet when asked for a link to prove your claim you refused to provide one. Then someone else (?) provided a link to Meade saying that Chuck was asked to leave (didn't say who exactly asked him to leave, didn't say he was banned, his posts weren't deleted - just that he was "asked to leave")
Others who have been banned (like M*ry and F*n) have their comments removed quickly upon being discovered in the threads - yet Chuck's comments remain, even right now with Meade in the thread.
We've been told that once banned there is no getting back into Althouse's good graces. There is a slim possibility she changed that policy of hers, but I find it highly doubtful.
Add it all together, and it seems that what you're saying about him being banned doesn't add up to the reality we see happening in the threads. With you being so wrong about this...and constantly so...it makes it really hard to beleive anything else you say about the guy.
Your posts are nothing more than the ramblings of a mad man...a man who is very mad at one particular person and you just can not let it go. You're ridiculous. You should work on your anger management problem, then go to a good ol' fashioned movie with a friend.
Chill Drago, Chill.
"The Washington Redskin"
Oh man. That is so great.
Debbie Dingell was on WJR (Detroit) about a month ago and said she was against impeachment.
She said it would tear the country apart. She said it would be best to let next year's election play out.
”Serious Question
Can Anybody (Cooke? Igna? Howard? Chuck?) prove that he's NOT in hell?”
Given that an afterlife Hell does not exist, he cannot be...and so, isn’t!
If you want any of "those nice suburban women" to help reelect the president, you might want to rethink the strategy of going into the comment section and personally insulting them on their own blog.
It might make them feel bad, and that's all that matters.
Repeal the 19th
Once again, and one must say it is adorable, another leftist pops up in strong and passionate defense of LLR-lefty Chuck.
It's almost as though all the lefties recognize a lefty astroturf effort when they see one....which is hardly surprising since astroturfing events is the primary mechanism of the left generating a "spontaneous" public response.
LOL
Seriously though purple, its really sweet of you. It must be the Season of Giving!
Maybe Dingell has 72 virgins.
That depends on the angle of the Dingell, rhhardin
Once again, and one must say it is adorable, another leftist pops up in strong and passionate defense of LLR-lefty Chuck.
It's almost as though all the lefties recognize a lefty astroturf effort when they see one....which is hardly surprising since astroturfing events is the primary mechanism of the left generating a "spontaneous" public response.
LOL
Seriously though purple, its really sweet of you. It must be the Season of Giving!
Well it's not like Trump said the Dingle guy was assigned to the 9th level of the Inferno. He could be anywhere from pre-level 1 to the Lake of Fire level, which is reserved for the Anti-semites.
Only late night democratic TEEVEE hosts and mean SNL writers are allowed to mock R-pols with anger and rage.
Tho - Trump is pretty soft here. But - you know we must clutch our pearls over it.
Hey, remember when Hugo Chavez went to the UN and said after GW Bush had spoken that there was distinct aroma of sulphur there?
Remember how the lefties and late night comedians all thought that was just so very very very funny?
Fen's Law, all day every day.
Leftists have been calling us racists, Nazi's, bigots, misogynists etc. for decades.
They get the vapors over this.
Fuck you people. Now Nancy is going to hold the articles of impeachment. This Dingell person put her in the chair and voted for impeachment.
Every democrat is an enemy of this Republic.
It may or may not be deterministic on whether you go to hell or not. But being a democrat at this point means you are a piece of shit.
Laughing at Drago and pointing out how he ain't quite-right-in-the-head is NOT the same as defending Chuck. Knowing that Drago views my comments as "defending" Chuck helps us all better understand why Drago thinks and says all that insane stuff he does...he is simply unable to process information properly.
It's also funny how he views anyone who isn't 100% on board with his wacked-out theories & extremists opinions is considered a "lefty". (Hasn't he said before that "leftys" need to be hung from the neck until dead? Or was that someone else who says that...hard to keep up with the crazy sometimes.)
"Chill Drago, Chill."
Banishment from Althouse is like hell. It has rings.
If he was a Congressman, and there is a Hell, he is there. QED Modus Ponens.
Purple: "Hasn't he said before that "leftys" need to be hung from the neck until dead?"
Hardly.
I'm all for handing you guys the microphones and saying go for it.
As with the impeachment charade or Hillary's campaign or Elizabeth Warren, the more you are seen the more you lose!
I'm a sunlight guy (Democracy Dies In Adam Schiff's Secret Basement Hearings!) not a hang 'em high guy, unless its the movie with Clint Eastwood along with the tragic Inger Stevens and terrific performances by Ed Begley, Alan Hale and Bruce Dern.
But that's just me.
May I deign to ask an impertinent question?
Now that President Trump has been impeached, does he still have Constitutional authority under Article 2 to?
1. Appoint Federal judges
2. Hire and fire Federal prosecutors
3. Command the Marine Corps to invade countries we don't like
4. Veto bullshit bills passed by Congress
Call me when and if this changes.....
"Banishment from Althouse is like hell. It has rings"
A clear answer would clear things up: Is Chuck banned from Althouse or not?
If so, I'll respect the wishes of our hostess, and stop referring to him and talking about him.
"Debbie Dingell is a great name for a politician."
Well, she did marry a democrat dingleberry.
Look I get it purple.
This is a tough day for you guys. Nancy was forced by her psychotic House members to swallow this impeachment farce and now, within 12 hours after the vote that so many lunatics in the streets means Trump is being frog marched out of the White House, (read twitter and you'll see this in real time as they come to realize this is not the case!! comedy gold), Pelosi knows she has to hold this monstrosity back.
She and the dems would be even more screwed if she sends it over!!
Rock and a hard place amigos. Rock and a hard place.
Remaining Question: will this little impeachment taste the dems gave their insane base sufficient to satisfy them, or will the mob come to realize how they've been had?
Its fun to watch.
Meanwhile, 11 more judges go thru in the last several weeks and today USMCA!!
Hey, they can impeach Trump every week if we continue to get these kinds of results.
no w was deemed ineligible, for that authority without impeachment,
Dingell helped press the crown of thorns, re Obamacare, that should count for something,
Nancy is so confident about her impeachment position that she REFUSED to take impeachment questions this morning!
LOL
And, needless to say, the reporters went mute at her order to them.
"I'm all for handing you guys the microphones"
A) Despite your constant attempts to paint me as such I ain't no lefty.
B) What "microphone" have you ever handed anybody? Is this your blog? Have you ever actually built a stage for people to speak on? Ran a camera for a televised event? Hosted a radio show?
Where have you personally provided a forum for differing point-of-views?
C) You claim you want folks to speak their mind, yet you are constantly trying to bully Chuck (and other differing opinions) away from this blog. Your words aren't the same as the reality.
strikingly in Bolivia, they have done what they tried to do in Venezuela, 6 month ago, and the press is very basenghi, when it isn't attacking the interim leader for being an outspoken catholic,
Robert Cook said...
”Serious Question
Can Anybody (Cooke? Igna? Howard? Chuck?) prove that he's NOT in hell?”
Given that an afterlife Hell does not exist, he cannot be...and so, isn’t!
12/19/19, 10:22 AM
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True, but why are the atheists the most outraged.
purple: "You claim you want folks to speak their mind, yet you are constantly trying to bully Chuck (and other differing opinions) away from this blog. Your words aren't the same as the reality."
Its no crime (yet) to point out the historical posting record of LLR-lefty Chuck.
I find it odd that you are so weirdly insistent that LLR-lefty Chuck's posting history not be referenced for contextual purposes.
So weirdly insistent.
Tell us, do you also insist that no one else's posting history be referenced as well? Or is that a LLR-lefty Chuck specific PurplePenguin Rule only?
"Its no crime (yet) to point out the historical posting record of LLR-lefty Chuck"
It ain't an actual crime, but our hostess has asked that we not talk about or refer to those who have been banned.
You beleive Chuck has been banned, yet you constantly refer to him over&over&over&over&over again - even in threads he hasn't commented in. How can that be taken as anything but giving a big "FUCK YOU!!" to Althouse herself? You've been asked this before - have you managed to figure out how you're gonna explain it yet or are you gonna dodge this question yet again?
they have their own top men:
https://babalublog.com/2019/12/18/corruption-and-questionable-alliances-by-venezuelas-interim-government-significantly-erodes-support/#comment-170936
”In fairness to Dingell, he was the one who called the ATF ’Jack booted thugs.’"
He called it right.
Gotta agree with you there, Cookie. At one time, the Democrats seemed to speak against thuggish behavior by the arms of the federal justice system. But, for decades, they have become its most ardent proponents.
I love how purple keeps pretending LLR-lefty Chuck's banning is some big mystery, as though it were done in Adam Schiff's basement.
it's like with palpatine, there wasn't a miss palpatine if rey is his granddaughter (spoilers) that's another panjandrum I'm getting tired about,
Althouse you didn't mention the audience reaction to the Trump line. It seemed to me to be a mixture of shock, horror, general offense and disapproval.
Imagine the audience reaction to any of the Democrat candidate posse saying "Trump will burn in hell" to any political audience they would be addressing?
THAT is the difference between social Democrats and EVERYONE else.
Debbie Dingell is a great name for a politician.
She could have married Marion Barry and hyphenated...
Ann banned Chuck for the same reason she banned Inga.
Chuck is a disingenuous piece of shit. Both of these people are just awful people and they shined a light on what being and supporting Democrats really means.
They made Ann uncomfortable because she voted for Hillary and Obama.
I appreciate chuck and Inga. Nobody can read their posts and not realize how terrible Democrats are.
This is one of those Trump statements you roll your eyes and wish he hadn't said. But he did. Because he says things like that. He has before and he will again. Then you look at job numbers and no new wars and you suck it up and continue to support Trump because where it really matters, he's as good as we're going to get.
People who believe Trump going to Hell upset he may not be there alone.
Trump toys with the notion that John Dingle is in hell, liberal snowflake democrats offended and ashamed of Trump, as expected.
Is Nancy’s stunt the Democrat version of a pocket veto? So it dies?
Cool. Who says those civics and government classes were wasted. It’s going to be without effect just like a House bill that never taken up by the Senate.
I think Trump can work with that. It’s like Cleavon Little threatening to blow his own head off in Blazing Saddles.
These Dems are morons.
shall we roll the tape of democrats, the media and hollywood saying nice things about Trump?
Mike said...
Every day we have to face up to the fact that this disgusting, adulterous, bully of a man is actually a pretty good president, and that the country is in great shape.
+1
Rory said...
"I'm more offended by the notion the seat of a guy who died in office, after what, 60 years of "public service", should be gifted to his spouse"
And his father gave it to him.
100% true.
Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and a moderate Democrat all make for a loose $10 bill. Who gets it?
Trick question, btw. Hat tip Kevin Smith.
“@Meade, I believe that the 2020 slogan is "Keep America Great." Makes one buy another cap.”
KAG!
Sounds like something stuck in your throat being coughed up.
Miracle Act 10 survivor PP is back with his/her hall monitor act.
Well. whether he was looking up or down, I think we can all agree, it was a hell of a funeral.
-Dingell (when alive): Go to hell trump!
-Trump: So, sorry Dingell died. Here's a state funeral and flags at half-mast.
-Widow Dingell: Trump can go to Hell, Impeach!
-Trump: Hey, maybe Dingell's in Hell, who knows?
-Widow Dingell - How dare trump insult my husband! How dare he. (tears)
-MSM: Oh, that awful Trump!
Meade said...
If you want any of "those nice suburban women" to help reelect the president, you might want to rethink the strategy of going into the comment section and personally insulting them on their own blog.
This wasn't aimed at me, was it?
If it was, I...
...Have disagreed with Althouse, and said so. And I can hardly think of another commenter who has been more effusive with praise for Althouse when I agree with her. I comment on only a fraction of her blog posts. I cannot ever think of or even imagine a single time when I have personally insulted Althouse.
...Don't hope or expect this President to be reelected. After voting for him as the least-worst option, I no longer can imagine a "more worse" option.
...Expect that Trump's problems with "nice suburban women" (and educated voters in every demographic and regional subgroup) will not support Trump in 2020. And the razor-thin victory that he concocted in 2016 will not be repeated.
I suggest Widow Dingell contact Megan McCain. She's still in mourning for the Maverick and milking it for all its worth. No daughter has ever been so publicly upset, for so long, over such an old man.
This wasn't aimed at me, was it?
When you have a Borderline Personality Disorder with Narcissistic tendencies, everything is aimed at you Chuckles.
"This wasn't aimed at me, was it?"
I find it hard to beleive that Meade himself would say "FUCK THAT!" to his wife's expressed wishes that we not interact with nor talk about those whom whe has banned from this blog...yet here he is, talking with you rather than deleting your comments.
Ergo - it appears that despite what Drago keeps claiming over&over&over again, you are not "banned" from this blog.
"Ann banned Chuck "
Link, please
purplepenguin: "Ergo - it appears that despite what Drago keeps claiming over&over&over again, you are not "banned" from this blog."
I make no claims as to enforcement of Althouseblog bans.
I only stand by the fact of LLR-lefty Chuck's banning.
John Dingell@JohnDingell
On behalf of so many of my fellow veterans:
Please take two running jumps and go to hell, Mr. Trump.
https://twitter.com/JohnDingell/status/786236645741850628
Let’s all pretend to be offended!
"I only stand by the fact of LLR-lefty Chuck's banning"
You keep saying that Chuck has been banned, yet you constantly refer to him over&over&over&over&over again - even in threads he hasn't commented in. How can that be taken as anything but giving a big "FUCK OFF!!" to Althouse herself?
You've been asked this a couple times before and you said you would answer it later - are you gonna actually do so or are you still gonna dodge the question?
mccullough said...
We planned on GM and Chrysler going bankrupt
Mitt Romney did. He wrote about it in a NYT editorial. (The Times editors gave the op-ed a headline, "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt." Liberals and Democrats excoriated him for it.
Then along came Obama, and his car czar, and under the guise of a "bailout," they took Chrysler and GM through managed bankruptcies almost exactly as Romney had predicted a year earlier.
And then Detroit, under the exclusive control of Democrats for two lifetimes, went into a municipal bankruptcy. Expertly handled by a Republican governor (and Trump hater), Rick Snyder.
And then Flint, also insolvent after two lifetimes of Democratic Party control, had its own problems.
I swear that some of the worst anti-Republican hate speech to be found anywhere in the USA today comes from the Trump Party.
No civility bullshit tag?
Just betting on the odds, Trump was right based on what Jesus said about the matter. See Matthew 7:13,14
"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
(Of course, He lived about two millennia too soon to find out from some Althouse commenters that the place doesn't even exist.)
purple: "You keep saying that Chuck has been banned, yet you constantly refer to him over&over&over&over&over again - even in threads he hasn't commented in. How can that be taken as anything but giving a big "FUCK OFF!!" to Althouse herself?"
Banned poster LLR-lefty Chuck posts often on just about every thread.
The number of times purplepenguin has requested LLR-lefty Chuck respect the Althouse ban remains at an even ZERO.
The same with Inga.
As all can see, what we see purple attempting to do here is precisely what Schiff-ty and Pelosi have done with the House: set in place rules which forever advantages the lefties at the expense of non-leftists.
Sorry penguin. Fix your own house.
Fake pearl clutching applied as a double standard is how you get more Trump.
Skylark said...
Let’s all pretend to be offended!
Exactly. I'm lmao at this idea John Dingell was some kind secular saint who must be treated with reverence. The whole thing is hilarious. Maybe he's in Heaven maybe he's in Hell, who knows. Trump is maintaining an open mind about it.
LLR-lefty Chuck: "I swear that some of the worst anti-Republican hate speech to be found anywhere in the USA today comes from the Trump Party."
LLR-lefty Chuck has literally called every republican (95%+) who supports Trump an ignorant John Birch society racist misogynist who deserves what he or she gets.
This is precisely the sort of LLR-lefty Chuck historical posting record that purplepenguin is DESPERATE to keep hidden.
Sorry penguin and LLR-lefty Chuck. The record is what it is and feigning conservatism merely to appear to attack Trump from the right is not going to work any longer.
The Conservative Inc Grift is over. Long over in fact.
And it is never coming back.
Ever.
serious question?
Other than Life Long Leftists, like Our Poor Chuck; who, The HELL cares about (or for That matter, has Even Heard of) this Dingleberry character?
I mean, so some dog catcher from detroit is dead... SO?
When I think of Dingell, the image of "Nothing But Trouble" and Judge Alvin Valkenheiser comes to mind...
https://youtu.be/X_r-fur3Zr0
Full disclosure - I'm agnostic, raised Catholic, but if memory serves: The Lady of Fatima was asked where the most people go when they die. She replied that most go to purgatory, nextmost to Hell, and the fewest go directly to Heaven.
The good news in that would be that *eventually* more people go to heaven than hell.
I thought it was funny.
gilbar: "I mean, so some dog catcher from detroit is dead... SO?"
democrats and FakeCon members of the Conservative Inc. Grift are upset because these little lap poodles are always deferential to their democrat and lefty masters.
It's why LLR-lefty Chuck's FakeCon mask continuously slips when democrats are under appropriate attack.
Recall how LLR-lefty Chuck went strongly to bat for Stolen Valor Da Nang Dick Blumenthal. LLR-lefty Chuck even defended far left Garrison Keillor after he was charged with sexual harassment!! NPR lefty Garrison Keillor!! Oh, our LLR-lefty Chuck could not just let those charges go without a defense for one of his many lefty heroes.
He called Maddow "Brilliant"
He called obama "magnificent"
He called leftist hack fake journalist John Harwood "professional" (this was right after press reports came out with Harwood laughing about how he had mucked up a republican debate)
And on and on it goes.
More info purplepenguin believes is critical to toss down the memory hole.
Three years ago, I would’ve been absolutely horrified by that comment. Three months ago, I would have been surprised and dismayed, and said he went too far. Now? I say fuck them. And I laugh my ass off, and enjoy butthurt of people like Chuck.
Robert Cook said...
Given that an afterlife Hell does not exist, he cannot be...and so, isn’t!
OH? Please PROVE that it does NOT exist Robert; and take your time
[HINT wishing something is not the same as Proving Something]
[Protip Proving negatives are are hard. It's Just as hard for you to Prove that Hell doesn't exist, as it would be for me to prove that Robert Cook doesn't suck cock for money]
"The number of times purplepenguin has requested LLR-lefty Chuck respect the Althouse ban remains at an even ZERO."
*sigh*
As stated many times before, I am unaware if Chuck has been banned or not. I've asked Althouse to clear this up, as she has been crystal-clear in regards to other users being banned, and she has yet to provide an answer. If he has been banned from posting on this blog then I shall stop interacting with him, per her expressed wishes. Yet the evidence in front of me...ie his posts not being delated, other users, including Meade, interacting with him without requests from Althouse to stop doing so (which she has done in the past with banned users)...leads me to beleive your claim is not true.
However, if it is true that Chuck has been banned then every time you mention him and/or interact with him you are saying "FUCK YOU" to our hostess. (Especially when you do so in threads he hasn't even commented in)
You can whine and complain about how she is just another lefty making lefty rules which are unfair to you, but it is her blog and you are a guest here. If you are unable to abide by the wishes of our hostess then perhaps you should leave.
If there is a Hell, you can be pretty certain John Dingell is in it, along with most dead politicians.
I swear that some of the worst anti-Republican hate speech to be found anywhere in the USA today comes from the Trump Party.
That is because we see you for what you are. Trumpkins, Teabaggers and deplorables are all epithets you have used.
The only people more loathe some and disgusting than the Democrats are the people who support Democrats and call themselves republicans.
The masks have been off for a long time.
I still remember the time on this forum when you threatened me with violence.
You are dishonest and disingenuous in addition to being a piece of shit.
"LLR-lefty Chuck has literally called every republican (95%+) who supports Trump an ignorant John Birch society racist misogynist who deserves what he or she gets."
Link, please.
"More info purplepenguin believes is critical to toss down the memory hole."
Uhm...asking to see the actual statement that was said rather than taking your word on it means I am trying to make it all go away?
You're a weird lil' person.
Chuck,
Michigan is a shithole, especially the suburbs. Even Romney left after his dad fucked up the place.
The dumbest white people live in Michigan. In the suburbs.
purplepenquin said...
"The number of times purplepenguin has requested LLR-lefty Chuck respect the Althouse ban remains at an even ZERO."
*sigh*
As stated many times before, I am unaware if Chuck has been banned or not.
No you aren’t. The posts have been linked for you. Ann clearly asked Chuck to leave. Inga too for that matter.
In the age of VPNs and the fact that blogger does not have a banning option makes it technically impossible to enforce such a ban.
So the shitheels persist.
Because that is what shitheels do.
If God is everywhere then... so is heaven. And maybe hell.
Who knows! The world rotates so just where this hell is located is pure speculation.
BleachBit-and-Hammers said...
shall we roll the tape of democrats, the media and hollywood saying nice things about Trump?
12/19/19, 11:32 AM
For that you are going to have to wait until [a few years] after he dies OR whenever the next Republican President gets elected. Then they will all pull a "Reagan" and go on and on about what a great guy he was, not at all like this current "Hitler" that we have to deal with!
Since the name may not be spoken in public, on mom's orders, I'll just post this quote from last night's rally:
“I could have Barron Trump go into Central Park and he’d get a crowd. "He’d get a bigger crowd [than Elizabeth Warren].”
More dissing of Tiffany, as I see it.
"The posts have been linked for you. Ann clearly asked Chuck to leave"
When/where did you see these links that were supposedly shown to me? 'cause I have seen nothing where Ann clearly asked Chuck to leave.
"In the age of VPNs and the fact that blogger does not have a banning option makes it technically impossible to enforce such a ban."
The fact that the posts of banned users can be deleted shows that a ban can be, and has been, enforced. Althouse made a comment a while ago about how easy and painless it is for her to delete comments from banned users, and I have no reason to doubt her in that regard.
That said - are you aware that Althouse has requested we not talk with/about those whom she banned from her blog? If so, why do you continue to talk with/about Chuck? Are you and Drago just a couple shitheels who are gonna continue to persist, or are you gonna respect the expressed wishes of our hostess?
This blog comment section has devolved to a kind of wasteland.
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