November 16, 2019

"Even as we push the envelope and we are bold in our vision we also have to be rooted in reality. The average American doesn’t think we have to completely tear down the system and remake it."

Said Barack Obama, "speaking before a room of wealthy liberal donors," quoted in the NYT, which calls his speech "an extraordinary entrance into the primary contest by the former president." It's "extraordinary," because, until now, he "has been careful to avoid even the appearance of influencing the direction of the race." So bland as his advice may sound, he must think it's awfully important.

He didn't specify that he meant to dampen enthusiasm for Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, but you can figure it out.
“I don’t think we should be deluded into thinking that the resistance to certain approaches to things is simply because voters haven’t heard a bold enough proposal and if they hear something as bold as possible then immediately that’s going to activate them,” he said.
Ha ha. In other words, Elizabeth, you're not the first one to "have a plan" for everything. We all can do that. But we've got enough sense not to say it out loud, and we also know we've got to get elected. We were able to toy with the idea that an explicit left-wing plan might generate some enthusiasm in some quarters, but we didn't fall into the delusion that we could win an election that way.

54 comments:

AllenS said...

This from a man who said: "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" and "If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan."

The last thing anyone needs to hear from Barry is what he thinks. He's a known liar, and an empty suit.

Kevin said...

"I love that the party has moved to the left," [Deval] Patrick said. "I love that we are the party of the woke. I believe that we also have to be the party of the still-waking, and I have always conducted my personal life and my business life and my life as a civil rights lawyer, my life as an advocate … that way."

Kevin said...

The party of civil rights lawyers wants to take your guns and make hate speech a crime.

The party of civil rights lawyers doesn’t think billionaires have a right to exist.

Shorter Obama: when you’re pulling a con, don’t be so anxious you tip off the mark.

Kevin said...

The party of civil rights lawyers wants you to believe your rights come from their laws.

tim maguire said...

First North Korea, now Obama. Things are looking up for Joe Baiden.

Quayle said...
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rehajm said...

Wealthy liberal donors like to stay wealthy too. Know your audience. He’s got that going for him

To a liberal wealthy donor they’re used to liberal candidates not understanding undergraduate economics but it’s disturbing to hear Liz Warren doesn’t understand how compounding works or how impossible it is to value privately held companies or illiquid real estate or collectibles on an annual basis. On top of her not understanding what a tax loss carry forward is.

Unknown said...

He is the liberal liar we deserve

Heartless Aztec said...

We are Rome. The mimic is uncanny.

samanthasmom said...

Obama needs a hobby. Maybe Rod Stewart could get him interested in building model train layouts.

hawkeyedjb said...

The party of civil rights lawyers will prosecute people for working in the oil industry.

wendybar said...

"We are 5 days away from transforming The United States of America .."

Tank said...

Kevin said...

***

Shorter Obama: when you’re pulling a con, don’t be so anxious you tip off the mark.


Good advice from the master.

tim in vermont said...

OK, Boomer.

wendybar said...

I forgot the word fundamentally. But he said it, and he meant it.

Quayle said...

“Of course we want them to keep eating cake. We just don’t need to say the words ‘let them eat cake’”

(Spoken to a group of wealthy potential political donors. Will someone please explain to me how exactly the vision of a socialist utopia fits together with the wealth - the hoarded capital - of the attendees?).

Unknown said...

the commies are too commie for Obama

Unknown said...

Why are only commie plans "bold"

when did the Right ever have a bold plan to voter ID or dump all immigrants or cut taxes to 10% or eliminate all gun laws? Would that be "bold"?

tim in vermont said...

Shorter Obama: “All you have to do is not be crazy."

Rick.T. said...

“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008

Bonus:

“We are going to have to change our conversation; we’re going to have to change our traditions, our history; we’re going to have to move into a different place as a nation.” — Michelle Obama, May 14, 2008

Sydney said...

What Wendybar and RickT said was the first thing that came to my mind, too. I remember well when Obama said he would fundamentally transform America. And he did!

Guildofcannonballs said...

"But we've got enough sense not to say it out loud, and we also know we've got to get elected"

But we've got enough sense not to say it out loud, because we also know we've got to get elected.

iowan2 said...

Crushing political norms and traditions, deconstructing our very democracy. I know it is extreme, but we need to start retro impeachment proceedings.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

Yeah, first you get elected, then you let everyone know that they have to give up their guns.

tim in vermont said...

On Twitter, Obama would be known as a “Caution Troll."

tomaig said...

Pretty sure the Tom Wolfe line from "The Right Stuff" describes it as " pushing the EDGE of the envelope".

Bay Area Guy said...

Obama speaks in convoluted generalities. But he looks good!

stevew said...

Mainsplaining, pure and simple. #metoo #imwithher

The reason big changes happen at the margins and over an extended time. Most people don't like change, especially when they disagree that there is a problem to be fixed.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

Prediction:

If Warren gets the nomination, wealthy Wall Street donors will, privately, support Donald Trump.

If she gets elected and actually tries to enact a tax on unrealized gains or a wealth tax, or any of her other hair-brained economic schemes, the democrats will work with the republicans in congress, privately, to stymie her.

If she, somehow, does get her hair-brained schemes passed into law, the market and economy will collapse.

When the market and economy collapse, she will blame it on "wreckers and hoarders" and there will be show trials.

Paco Wové said...

"The average American doesn’t think we have to completely tear down the system and remake it."

The fact that he had to say it sure makes it seem like the average Democrat does.

Anonymous said...

We all can do that. But we've got enough sense not to say it out loud, and we also know we've got to get elected. We were able to toy with the idea that an explicit left-wing plan might generate some enthusiasm in some quarters, but we didn't fall into the delusion that we could win an election that way.

True enough, but the speech isn't just about the voters resistance. "Wealthy liberal donors" don't want the system torn down either; it's serving them quite nicely, thank you very much. So Obama is reassuring them, too.

Browndog said...

But we've got enough sense not to say it out loud, and we also know we've got to get elected. We were able to toy with the idea that an explicit left-wing plan might generate some enthusiasm in some quarters, but we didn't fall into the delusion that we could win an election that way.

Spot on.

If you tell rural Pennsylvania voters they are the salt of the Earth during the day, wait until you're at a private swanky fundraiser that night to tell those bitter clingers what you really think of them.

Iman said...

“ Obama needs a hobby. Maybe Rod Stewart could get him interested in building model train layouts.”

Train to Nowhere

exhelodrvr1 said...

He is so clean and articulate, isn't he?

Skeptical Voter said...

Ah that crazy guy Barack! He's an equal opportunity sneerer. What a kidder!

And what a jerk. He can look down on almost anybody.

rehajm said...

Obama needs a hobby.

No kidding. He doesn’t chase tail...does he still like weed? I guess there’s the golf and whatever he collected money from Netflix for, but that seems like more of a no-show kind of thing.

gilbar said...

"has been careful to avoid even the appearance of influencing the direction of the race."

Not even a smidgen of influence; except for his FBI and his CIA?

PolarBear81 said...

All the Democrats have to do is nominate someone who isn't predisposed to bossing people around and taking their money.
They can't or won't find that individual.

JAORE said...

Shorter Obama:

STOP BEING HONEST!

alanc709 said...

Is progressive a synonym for duplicitous? If not, it should be.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Obama knows you have to get elected in order to fundamentally change America so he is recommending the Dems lie about their true intentions.

Fernandinande said...
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I'm Full of Soup said...

Obama will quietly support the black guy from Bain Capital.

Fernandinande said...

“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”

But wait, there'a more click-bait!

"OBAMA: In five days, you can turn the page on policies that put greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of folks on Main Street.

In five days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, and create new jobs, and grow this economy, so that everyone has a chance to succeed, not just the CEO, but the secretary and janitor, not just...
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
OBAMA: ... the factory owner, but the men and women on the factory floor."


Too bad we foster an environment where bad actors are not completely removed, but remain indefinitely like wine stains on white (supremacist) carpets.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

This is the Althouse commenteriat doing what it does best - bashing Obama.

Bob Boyd said...

This is the Althouse commenteriat doing what it does best - bashing Obama.

Flattery will get you nowhere.

Bob Boyd said...

Warren's moccasin snapped a twig and just like that the quarry was gone.

Krumhorn said...

Warren's moccasin snapped a twig and just like that the quarry was gone.


Hahahaha......good ‘un!

- Krumhorn

n.n said...

Redistributive change, social justice, diversity, political congruence, man-made conflicts, refugee crises, appeals to empathy, and other euphemisms. It worked for him.

rcocean said...

Don't worry Obama. Even if it Bernie or Warren, they'll both move to the center for the election and the DNC Media won't say a word about their real - radical- positions.
In any case, Biden is no moderate. There's less difference between slow Joe and Bernie than you think.

Big Mike said...

@ARM, from where I sit Obama really deserves bashing. YMMV

Iman said...

What remains of Obama’s “legacy” does not speak well of the man. No need to bash him, plenty there to ridicule.

Tom T. said...

He still won't endorse Biden.

Unknown said...

Deval won't even get to 1%


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