Don't know if I'll say anything, but here's your place to talk.
Looks like John (my son) is taking this thing seriously. Check that out.
I can barely tolerate the idea. I guess it's just the thought of Joe Biden's teeth, shining like the Cheshire Cat, that gives me enough of a little lift to keep going... into the horror... what? does this go on until... 2 a.m. or something....
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7:50 Central Time — Way too much back and forth about health care, with an unfair amount of time lavished on Kamala Harris. I've had it with the effort to shoehorn in anecdotes about grandmothers and what life was like growing up. I'm going to give the health care round to Joe Biden.
8:21 — Cory Booker is doing a good job of standing next to Biden and giving him the eye. Booker seems to have a nice joy of the game. I'm enjoying his performance.
9:39 — The best of the night? Tulsi Gabbard. A brutal attack on Kamala Harris. Excellent deep, strong voice. Well-grounded seriousness.
July 31, 2019
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1 – 200 of 310 Newer› Newest»I just finished 9 holes of golf, and in 1/2 hour, I’m going to play some hockey. But I could be picking lint out of my sock drawer and it’d be more rewarding than watching that bunch of loons...
I just hope there's no satire involved...
Yes, Ann, we must
So far it’s awful.
Looking for my guy Andy Yang to show up big tonight.
Can any of these people tack far enough back to the center in the general to win an election? Maybe Harris, but I think not.
I'm from NY, I'll pre-apologize for Bill and Kirsten
I’ll have to give it a miss. I have some sheets that need ironing.
It goes on 'til 2am so CNN can try to spin it into something positive
I hope Love wins...again.
I hope Babylon Bee and The Onion don't come to loggerheads over a fact-check from Snopes over love snark.
Tulsi is so, so good looking! She is better looking in person. Movie star looks.
after Pete Bugghedhed's adornment last nite
what sort of detritus (Detroit-us?) will enhance this crowd's visage?
Tulsi’s hot.
Gilibrand is kinda hot too, in a batshit crazy kinda way.
Stores close!?
Who knew?
I find it hilarious how Yang just wants to put everybody on welfare.
Why disrupt Spartacus?
Yes she is, now miss rutnik should look good but not really
Nothing I want more than for Yang to yell "FUCK!".
I hear racist and some counter chant
I appreciate having the open forum here, because I like to hear from other commenters. But I don't need input from the Althouse household. Maybe there's a Brewers game on.
Biden is such a dunce. Ridiculous opening statement.
This first question to Harris was scripted, as was her answer.
FUCK!
Biden gonna start throwing elbows tonight!
Harris is on quaaludes. No talking me out of it.
Willie Brown is on Medicare.
More Yang!
Corey brings up Baltimore. What a genius !
Castro:
"We're not going 'back where we came from.' We're moving forward, but we aren't moving to Baltimore."
Yang: "We need to do the opposite of what we've been doing now. I am changing my name to Costanza."
Biden's hair looks weirder on high-def TV than I had ever noticed before. Kamala Harris opens by saying about BIden, "He probably hasn't read my plan." If Biden had taken that tack toward Harris, he would be criticized as "mansplaining". Harris then goes on with some anodyne promise to give Americans what they want (ho-hum). Harris looks strong engaging face-to-face with BIden. Biden seems really smart and engaged and not "too old". Gillibrand: the personal stories are boring. I'm 15 minutes or so in and I'm going to publish and reengage after I've read other comments.
Jonah Goldberg finally said something interesting on Bret Baier this PM when he pointed out how the media has failed to note how badly the Democrats did across the country under the Obama presidency, losing thousands of state and local officials and that these were mostly moderates, leaving the Party in the hands of the loony left.
I guess it makes sense; the more or less evenly divided districts is where the moderates would be most likely to wander off the reservation and vote Republican in their dismay over Obama and Washington.
Anyway, it now leaves the Democrat Party without a reservoir of moderate candidates who could win back their moderate voters and appeal to the general public.
Why is Gillibrand talking about the past in the present tense?
And lets not *lose* the forest for the trees?
Agree, the personal stories never work for me.
Tell me what you will do for America
I'm not feeling the Love.
Damn that moderator is a bossy cow!
Civil rights parents? WTF
Biden: "Mister President, we are stronger because of this diversity. I can say this now because I wasn't in last night's debate."
I hope everyone realizes we're being gaslighted to think Obamacare never existed.
Booker calling Trump 'the enemy'. That is rough.
Harris on her health plan: ""They're probably confused because they've not read it. I mean, even Robert Mueller understands it."
Booker - Medicare for all. Lets not disagree in PUBLIC. Its not like its a debate. Lets disagree in private.
Talked to an old liberal today who is living on savings and social security. He is pissed off because he has finally realized every time wages go up, his cost of everything goes up.
Guy is in his eighties and took him this long to get it.
Anyway, he is not too happy with the fifteen dollar minimum wage.
I hope everyone realizes we're being gaslighted to think Obamacare never existed.
At least Biden mentioned it. The lying is just nauseating. This is 11 years after the Democrats wrote a plan with ZERO Republican input and it flopped. Just nauseating.
where is Yang? Did they shut his mic off again?
Can someone tell me why Joe is a "Moderate"?
Thank you Senator, WTF. He was in the middle of a sentence!
Biden: "Senator Harris' plan will cost 300 quadrillion dollars, and take 343,333 years to come into effect"
Harris: "The cost doing of doing nothing is 12,222 bazillion quatloos, and every American dead by November"
2010 - The D's have passed Obamacare. Woo Hoo. Problem fixed.
2019 - Healthcare is terrible. Elect the D's. We'll fix it this time.
Republicans gonna take away your healthcare ~! Oh, noes !
The ACA is about "insurance care," not "health care," but Murphy's Golden Rule will apply; the medical industry - or rather, industries - will react and there will be consequences, foreseen and not foreseen.
"We need to be honest.."
You're done here, Pal!
So far, going for sick people, climate alarmists,lgtb
Harris is testy and not like able at all.
That Colorado guy is pretty convincing though.
Yang will fix healthcare quickly because he knows math
Medicare must be a wonderful system? Is it better than VA?
Jay Inslee looks scary. Very sharp teeth.
Gillibrand: You guys are missing the forest because of bears- the insurance companies are greasy scoundrels! … They have bacon fat that's real and should be going to making gravy."
I notice that Biden quite strictly abides by the cut-offs; while others (so far notably) Harris go on until they have finished their thoughts. For me this works as a pro-Biden ploy. I wonder how the rules will come into play, since obviously Harris has a lot more time than others so far.
Gov Islee - There's a man with a square jaw and strong glasses. Then talks about Mental Health for all. All the D's cheer. Lots of Mentally ill patients?
On a serious note, if you listen to the verbiage Kamala Harris uses, especially off teleprompter, it's as totalitarian as it gets.
I noticed when she ran for California AG.
She was bad then, worse now. I don't think she realizes it, or doesn't care.
Booker: Can't we all just get along, like I do with my hot beard...er... boo?
So I work for BIG EVIL PHARMA and I can tell you...if any of these proposals for dictating drug development and pricing becomes reality, you can kiss breakthrough medications good-bye. No company will develop a new cancer therapy at the cost of over $1 billion, only to have a bunch of know-nothings tell them what they can charge. These people are imbeciles.
Someone's yelling again...
No one is using his indoor voice.
Harris: "Biden's plan just cover 3 people in Memphis, and only on Sundays"
Biden: "Where's my pudding?" [Suffers minor stroke, babbles incoherently, recovers briefly and gets cut off]
"Harris is testy and not likeable at all." I had the same reaction. The more she talks, the less I like her. It's not (I think) because I disagree with her policy proposal, it's because I don't think she responds well to criticism, and (see my earlier comment) because she insists on talking beyond the allowed limit.
Biden is yelling
Kamala Harris is dumber than a bag of leeches. Profits are not profit margins.
And insulin is available cheap and over the counter. No one wants to mention that.
These people are imbeciles.
You're right Anne but it's not just them. Trump thinks allowing Americans to buy drugs in Canada is like shopping at Costco.
My bullshit detector pegged nearly. None of these people know what they are talking about.
The back benchers actually sound more sane than the front runners
I got a different reaction. Harris is a strong woman. She's got what it takes.
A brouhaha of of cheap Insurance salesmen. Where is Marianne when we need her?
Harris: "Insurance shouldn't be tied to jobs or flagpoles"
Bennett: "Senator Harris' plan will turn private insurance into illegal alie....er undocumented....er....I mean make private insurance not possible to sell. By the way, I love Senator Harris as much as Willy Brown did."
Harris: "I consider Bennett a friend, too, but he is a lying scumbag about my plan to make private insurance illegal- that isn't not a lie."
That Colorado guy is pretty convincing though.
Bennet is the only one remotely in touch with reality
Did BIden say, "That deductible is coming out of your paycheck."? Does he understand what a deductible is?
babies at the border. Babies in cages. Cries.
Children should be allowed to run free. Like birds.
I’m trying to imagine one of these people sitting across the table from Putin.
Inslee: "Thanks for noticing that I am in the race. Just because I am a lunatic without a diagnosis doesn't mean you shouldn't lock me up and have insurance pay for it."
So easy for those parents separated from their children to get their children back: LEAVE and act in a legal fashion.
Obama Care. The plan that dare not speak its name....
Wasn't repeal and replace racist....like just last year?
Trump will not need the Russians this go round
Castro won't say so, I guess, but he does favor open borders. But he thinks if he pronounces "Guatemala" like an authentic Latino, no will notice that he favors open borders.
Giilbrand = women who fled violence. Raped. So, we should have civil violation. Babies at the border. Babies behind bars.
I suppose I should watch to get this answer. I was reading a bit on Facebook about Hong Kong. Are any of the Democrat Candidates being questioned about China in relation to Hong Kong? Seems kind of important, no?
Beset by Trigglypuffs...
Yang: When I told my wife I was running for president, she rolled on the floor laughing so hard she had a heart attack. At the hospital, she pointed out that had she been uninsured, she would have been admitted to the ER anyway."
They are all passionately for open borders offering every peasant on earth a lifetime of free cadillac plan health care, housing and education in Spanish etc.. Tell me again how strong these politicians are.
Even the crowd is yelling. Losers.
Castro is just a tribalist. Mexicans uber alles.
Anecdotal horror stories.
Real world minimum wage young people resent being forced to pay for insurance.
De Blasio: "Thanks for not ignoring me like that guy Incest over there. Why are we fear-mongering about health care- the real existential threat is me becoming president- let's focus, guys!"
Mueller. Its as though he never existed....
Joe almost sounds lucid on this issue. People should have to get in line. Absolutely.
As I said in comments in last night's debate: I think it is becoming more and more clear that Democrats favor open borders. I don't believe this is a winning position, and I think Trump's team will beat them over the head with it over and over and over.
Biden, after CNN allows everyone to attack him:
"I yield the rest of my time to Yang. Wait- I'll say it for him..."FUCK!"
Can you imagine the Trump v. Yang debates!
Holy shit, will be legendary
Yang: Admit inventors!
Yang: Quit letting in all these Central American morons. More smart people!!!!
Gabbard - hearts break. babies at the border. Yang - MY Dad was great.
De Blasio - Agree with me or you're a Republican plant.
Wow, Drago: Mueller never existed. I hadn't noticed until you said it. Though the topics are led by the CNN questionners.
Watching Kamala, I gotta put canned olives on the Costco list...
Bennett: "It's lie that I am a Republican- and can I have another Scotch- the first three didn't help."
A correction:
https://mobile.twitter.com/VaughnHillyard/status/1156726192143294466
Americans built this country...for those fact checking.
I do not understand their blather about reducing the cost of drugs by allowing importation of drugs from Canada - or rather, according to the new czar of this, allowing drugs made here or elsewhere and labeled for Canada to be held here, or re-routed to here from where they are made, and sold here for Canadian prices. All of this to be strictly supervised, of course.
I think these people must have been tasting more than they should have of the more strictly controlled drugs passing through their hands.
As I understand it, "Big Pharma" really is not all that profitable as it is, so if drug prices are to come down and the firms to survive, the existing marketing practices must be broken up and new ones created so that the development costs will be shared across the world markets instead of as now, where we in the U.S. shoulder most all of the development costs and other countries just pay the marginal cost of larger production plus a profit margin.
It does not sound like even Trump has a stomach for forcing through such changes against the yelling and screaming this would cause the world over and universal condemnation in the UN, etc. and so forth.
Plus how much can one man do if even his own people won't back him?
I have no sympathy for these invaders and law breakers. Sorry.
Hey, Joe. This country was built by LEGAL immigrants.
Inslee is deranged.
Gillibrand believes every wild story women trying to get into USA tells her.
I wish the moderators would explore where and whether Tulsi’s tan lines begin and end.
Biden: "Senator Harris and Mayor Big Bird couldn't add 2 and 2 together unless they were in New Mexico."
"Send me your Syrian's". They've broken our laws, but WTF. These guys are clowns of the first order. Immigration will really hurt them and they keep doubling down.
Of the twenty debate-qualified candidates, which could successfully manage a Dairy Queen franchise? I'd have to set the over/under at 4.
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"Fire Pantaleo" appears to be the audience chant. Daniel Pantaleo is the NYPD officer who put Eric Garner in a fatal chokehold. Protestors have called on Bill de Blasio to fire him; De Blasio has so far declined.
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Biden again: "I want jail insurance executives in jail for selling opioids!"
Corey Booker: dealing with illegal immigration through the civil courts. What does this mean? Can I sue individual illegal immigrants for damages? (I recognize I may be missing some more obvious explanation of this, and will welcome kind corrections or explanations.)
I didn't watch last night, but followed the commentary.I felt obligated to watch tonight.
I regret that decision.
Biden - we need EVEN MORE Immigrants. 1.5 million is not enough. And if you got a PHD you're an American.
Gov. Islee - Send us your Syrian refugees. Send us your poor Muslims. Send us your ISIS.
Del Blasio - Amnesty for everyone!
All you fucking assholes: How about you don’t take out loans you can’t pay back.
Beasts of England,
I think you are very generous. Most would cause their own labor unrest as management, and lead the picket line.
Corey Booker: dealing with illegal immigration through the civil courts. What does this mean? Can I sue individual illegal immigrants for damages? (I recognize I may be missing some more obvious explanation of this, and will welcome kind corrections or explanations.)
This is "Joe Vs. the Volcano" isn't it?
Sorta..
Harris: "When security wouldn't let me in the concentration camps, I went across the street, climbed a ladder and looked inside a Starbucks- what I saw shocked me- a fucking sandwich cost 15 dollars"
Did Booker just say Shithole countries?
Every person has dignity and worth! LET IN EVERYONE!!!!!
BABIES! Separated babies!
Yes, Booker said 'shit holes'
Yang: "We need to talk about open borders for people from China, too- they get lots of patents"
h: "Wow, Drago: Mueller never existed. I hadn't noticed until you said it. Though the topics are led by the CNN questionners."
"CNN questioners" is the point.
Yang is warning us about the robots. Thanks, Andy!
White nationalists.
most are watching for the entertainment factor.
not to enhance their decision-making.
A political roller-derby-- going around in circles throwing elbows
in 'real life' you wouldnt trust those jokers to run a hot-dog stand.
...except Marianne-- she would be great at a wellness center in Sedona
The Democrats REFUSE To enforce immigration laws in the Blue States and cities.
They won't do JACK SHIT to enforce the law if elected. They NOT secure the Border. They will grant AMNESTY To all illegals. They support open borders and will give welfare and health care to illegals.
Biden: "America is great because we picked cherries from around the world"
Biden's campaign staff slap foreheads in unison causing a big ruckus in the auditorium.
I think that Biden is taking a lot of heat from all sides, and really looks like he is on the defensive. Gillibrandt seems to have been taking a nap and then teacher called her name. Not a good few seconds.
Biden has practiced speech about dreamers. De Blasio set him up with a softball..
After the gang bang on Biden, he and Love Spirit will be leading in the polls Monday morning.
Hillary will have a shitload of botox sessions next week.
Yes, I agree, see Hillary warming up in the bullpen
De Blasio: Joe, when you were vice president, did you agree with Obama's plan of catapulting undocumented immigrants back into Mexico?"
Biden: "I invoke vice-executive privilege and won't answer"
Booker: [laughing maniacally] "Joe, you are shitholing us, aren't you?
Yes, we incarcerate people for being poor. Not for rape, murder, assault, grand theft...Let’s let everyone out!!!! Everyone in! And Everyone out!!!
Slo Joe tried to get Crack (not the Althouse Crack) removed, from what? CFR?
Booker: We lock people based on race. Legalize pot.
Biden: You were a bad Mayor. Too much crime.
Booker is going for it. Looks like tonight is do or die for him.
Biden again: "People in prison should be in the 1st grade rather than lifting weights and watching "Making of a Murderer" on Netflix"
Biden has plans. Big plans. Five decades in govt to formulate big, beautiful plans.
What does T-Bone think?
Joe: The fact of the matter is.
Kamala: The reality is.
Cory: Everyone is in prison for life for smoking pot!
T-Bone saved cats from burning buildings once a week on his way to work.
Joe Biden loves crooks. He'll teach them to read, he'll give them coco and put them to bed. He's got that vote sewn up.
Booker: We need true Marijuana justice. (What?)
Booker: The ACLU Loves me. Biden is dipping into the Koolaid and don't even know the flavor. BIden destroyed my community.
Biden has another stroke and addresses "Grand Emperor Booker", catches himself, laughs it off and says Booker is going to be homeless.
Castro wants to fix the police force. If he ends qualified immunity for the cops, no one will be a cop. Moron.
Rubber and glue again.
Honestly I find this surreal. The Democratic party would like to tie its balloon to unlimited immigration, release of criminals into the general population,and a Medicare plan that will destroy every private plan. Trump may win.
Eric Garner digression.
this is like a game show
The police and the justice department are the problem?
Crime is the problem
LOL-
Eric Gardner happened under the Obama DOJ. I think it was Holder that cleared NYPD.
Eric Garner! Justice was not done? A jury decided that, didn’t it?
Did anyone have 'marijuana justice' on their debate bingo card?
Biden finally thaws out his brain: "Emperor Palpa.....er Senator Booker, your record on crime in New Jersey was horrible- Tony Soprano ran the place for goodness sake!"
Spartacus: You want to compare records? Really? Just look at my Boo! Top that!"
Biden let 38,000 crooks out early. Vote for me.
And Obama loved me best.
That NYPD officer should sue Jake Tapper and CNN for saying he killed Eric Garner.
Rome's barbarian invasions were mostly, almost exclusively, peaceful immigrants. Most were illegals.
That police officer did NOT kill Eric Garner. How can they LIE and LIE and LIE?
Inslee: Again, thanks for noticing me. We should ban the box. Spheres are much better"
Harris is on ludes. Let's be clear.
Harris: Eric Garner's mother liked me best.
Kamala does get fired up when talking about locking people up though-
Joe, not much segregation in SF in last 15 years. What's he smoking?
Let’s add busing to the list...
Everyone in!
Everyone out!
Everyone forcibly moved around!
And stick that cop in prison!
Yang: we should pay people to stay out of prison. What a good idea! (Please send me a check, because I've been out of prison for the last 6 months.).
Jay Inslee is not deranged; just conscienceless.
Trump: Make America Great Again
Harris: That is simply not true!
A very dangerous person.
My, my, indeed, these folks are going at each other with abandon. Biden is a racist, Harris is a fanatical prosecutor, etc. Onward!
Tulsi Gabbard sure is pretty. She gets my vote for most photogenic.
I just noticed that each candidate has a blue screen at knee height. I keep expecting that the final jeopardy answers will appear on those blue screens.
Is anyone excited about Biden?
Harris kills innocent people!
Harris: I'll legalize MJ. But won't they all? Proud to say: I Let Killers live. Will not EVER seek death penalty.
Begging the question...what exactly has Donald Trump said that is racist? Give a concrete example and have someone respond.
Tulsi has notes about Kamal.
All this talk about drug users in prison. Didn't Trump just sign a law helping those poor folks?
Del Brasio for President! Why is NYC more segregated then ever? Who's been in charge of NYC for the last 50 years?
Can't wait for the Snopes fact checks .
Yang: Beware the Robots!
That straight line from slavery to Jim Crow is the Democrat Party.
Yang: Pay everyone.
Harris: "It isn't true that Hairplugs and I agree on busing- he likes trains to camps like Hitler."
Legalize weed: Going after the Libertarian vote!
Let’s get into the *weeds* of the filibuster!
Women and minorities hardest hit!
Guaranteed minimum income! Let’s pay all the people who find work burdensome!
Trump Racist Trump Racist Trump Racist...blah blah blah
Baltimore..Detroit...San Francisco...What do all these cities have in common?
Don't need WAPOO or NYT, Rush Limbaugh is far more accurate!
Gilibrand is a white woman of privilege. White boys don't get shot cause they're white. Gilbrand will explain that to other white women.
Althouse too.
Gabbard: "I considered sitting this entire debate out since all of you are clearly luntics, but here goes- Senator Harris- you locked people up for smoking dope and tearing off mattress tags- I can't believe you think you can win this nomination- you failed those people!"
Harris: I am against the death penalty for smoking dope and defacing Serta products."
Eric Garner’s family got $5.9m.
Climate change is a total SCAM.
Why doesn’t one of the commentators ask why the 2013 and 2017 and 2020 deadlines have passed without climate catastrophe as predicted...and yet we should believe the 2050 deadline?
And WHAT do I have to do to not have to verify with captcha every time I post a comment?
Bennett: "Just bring me the bottle, please- now, where was I?"
Gov Loony : Climate Change - Its everything!
Biden: I'd spend $400 Billion. That's more than anyone.
Yang: The USA ain't so great. We're too late. Move to higher ground = leave the robots.
Yang: I would make the best president by bribing all the voters with their own money
Inslee: "I hear voices, and they make me say crazy shit"
Yang - MOVE TO HIGHER GROUND. Its too late!
As we get close to the end, Harris is too strident, and I don't think she has won, even though she has a lot of camera time. BIden has taken a lot of hits about why he didn't do more as vp and I think this means he has not won, even though he has a lot of camera time. Gov. Inslee looks like a retired football player with black-frame glasses, and he did answer a lot of questions well. (But will he be the nominee? No.) DeBlasio looks stupid and how can he continue. Yang looks smart, but I don't think anyone will take him seriously because his central welfare for all program is too weird. Castro didn't do well enough to get over the top (maybe he could win the nomination of the "rent is too damn high" party). Gillibrand might as well have stayed home (written before her final plea about her "white privilege" basis. Booker looked strong with his direct exchanges with BIden. Perhaps Booker is a winner. I'm afraid everyone else is not memorable.
I think Biden is holding his own and some good shots were got in on Kamala Harris about her prosecutorial record and about taking away people's health insurance.. I say Biden wins - the debate.
Gillibrand and Del Blasio. Can we kick NY out of the country?
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