March 10, 2019

"If even a successful businessman and entrepreneur like Governor Hickenlooper can't openly support capitalism in the Democratic primary, it's clear this is Senator Sanders' party now."

Said Howard Schultz (the Starbucks founder who may run for President as an independent), which was quoted on "Face the Nation" this morning, in a question to John Hickenlooper, whose answer was so dispiriting that I turned off the TV in the middle. Transcript:
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: I've been-- the point I was making is that we defined people by these labels that- that often have all kinds of associations and baggage with them in that sense. Do I believe in small business? Of course I believe in small business. I started probably more than 20 different small businesses.
That's where I turned it off, judging Hickenlooper to be hopelessly mealymouthed (and he was my first-pick among the current Democratic candidates, but I'd never listened to him speak before). He continues:
I'd have-- in one year I'd have over a million customers. I understand that. But what's happening-- I think it's kind of a silly question. We should be looking at some of the reasons be- behind why we have less and less start ups.... We should look at some of the reasons why, you know, more and more people aren't wanting to start a business.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure, but you understand it is a main Republican talking point to label Democrats right now as anti-business socialists.

GOV. HICKENLOOPER: Right? But that's ridiculous, obviously there are--

MARGARET BRENNAN: So you would reject that.

GOV. HICKENLOOPER: --the Democratic party is a big tent.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You reject that label.

GOV. HICKENLOOPER: Yes. Absolutely. I think that's not accurate. And I think that, as your interview with Elizabeth Warren showed, there are all kinds of- of- of different people making up the Democratic Party. Do I believe in- in free markets? Do I believe that, you know, you put capital to work to- to create jobs and- and improve your community? You know back when I was a kid, businesses understood the part of their job wasn't just to make as much profit as they could but it was to create the community. Once you get back into these labels, am I a capitalist? Am I a socialist? How much of how much of a capitalist I am I versus how much of a socialist? That becomes kind of silly doesn't it?

MARGARET BRENNAN: Well--

GOV. HICKENLOOPER: I mean,

MARGARET BRENNAN: If-

GOV. HICKENLOOPER: In a funny way--
No, it's not funny at all.  You wouldn't say you're a capitalist, then you said you rejected the label "socialist." You don't want to be labeled — it's "silly" and "ridiculous." He needs to speak better than that. He needs a much stronger presence or he's done.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The other candidates were comfortable answering the question so I wanted to offer you a chance to- to answer it. understand you're not comfortable directly answering

GOV.. HICKENLOOPER: I-I--

MARGARET BRENNAN: But I want to move on to some--

GOV HICKENLOOPER: Well I-I'm comfortable. I'm hap--

MARGARET BRENNAN: Go ahead.

GOV. HICKENLOOPER: Let me just- I'm happy to say I'm a capitalist but I think at a certain point the labels do nothing but divide us.
No, you were not happy to say you're a capitalist. You weaseled until Margaret Brennan pushed you to realize you look hopelessly weak. But I had already turned off the TV and thought forget about you. I'm only at this point in the interview because I wanted to write a blog post and I looked up the transcript.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.

GOV. HICKENLOOPER: What I'm trying to build this campaign around, is to say that as a country we've got to stop finding every excuse to divide ourselves--

MARGARET BRENNAN: Point taken.

GOV. HICKENLOOPER: And begin working together because we've got some big issues to make.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Point taken. In terms of your platform. I understand you support universal health care not necessarily Medicaid for all- Medicare for all. You've supported some free trade deals in the past like NAFTA. You've touted your executive experience in a field full of legislators here. You don't like labels but you sound like more of a centrist. How do you keep the Democratic party from splintering further?

GOV. HICKENLOOPER: Well try- if I've tried to avoid this all the labeling that goes on. You know, I mean....
You know, I mean, avoidant is not good. It's low energy.
... I'm running for president because I believe I could beat Donald Trump....
Not with that low-energy, avoidant babbling.
... but I also believe that can bring us together on the other side and begin getting stuff done. And that's one thing I think that I bring to the table is I'm a doer. I'm not someone who's- I mean I'm a dreamer too and I- I believe in big visions....
A doer who's a dreamer, a dreamer of big visions. In his dreams, he beats Donald Trump. Noted.

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Ann Althouse said...

NOTE: Based on the video, a fixed a couple things in the transcript.

roadgeek said...

One can call Donald Trump many things, but you can't call him mealymouthed.

Gk1 said...

A mealy mouthed, gun grabber. Just what this country needs. Does anyone really believe he has the "fire in the belly" to run for President?

n.n said...

He's Pro-Choice. Avoidance is a moral imperative.

mccullough said...

If you don’t like labels, then you run as an Independent.

Democrat is a fucking label, Hick.

I’d rather drink Schultz’ coffee than Hick’s beer.

Aunty Trump said...

AOC is like a guided torpedo aimed directed at the weakest bond of the Democrat coalition.

The question is really “Whose out of control torpedo is she and which sub is she going to sink?"

David Begley said...

He’s also a hypocrite. His brewpub served a segment of the market. The Bud Light crowd don’t drink IPA. His business was labeled.

Achilles said...

He isn’t mealy mouthed about his gun grabbing.

The Democrats just voted to let non citizens and illegals vote.

Everyone knows why after watching this.

The Democrat Party is the enemy of freedom.

Aunty Trump said...

You can picture a guy standing over the rift between two ice floes, trying to keep a foot on each one in order to hold them together. If you ever see a guy in that position, you can call him a “Hickenlooper."

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Elizabeth Warren isn’t mealymouthed or weak or afraid to call herself a Capitalist.

AllenS said...

... or an Indian.

Mike Sylwester said...

Howard Schultz interviewed by Bill Kristol on BookTV.

I watched this broadcast and was surprisingly impressed by Schultz.

He tells a remarkable rags-to-riches story about himself, and he speaks very intelligently. A lot of Independents and centrist Democrats will like him.

I think he might affect the 2020 Presidential election significantly.

mccullough said...

As a pure matter of politics, Hick should embrace the capitalist label. He’s an old white guy running against a dozen Socialists in the Dem primary.

There is a lane for a capitalist moderate against 12 anti-white Socialists. It’s not like he’s running against Bernie or Kamala one on one.

He’s a fucking idiot if his strategy is to try and appeal to the crazies that make up almost half the party. Go for the sane white voters in the Dem primary. That will get you some primary victories. Hope the 25% gets you the mod.

Drago said...

"He tells a remarkable rags-to-riches story about himself, and he speaks very intelligently."

Then he has no home in the democrat party.

The dems and their LLR allies are "in a hurry", as in "communists are simply progressives that are in a hurry"

gilbar said...

"He needs a much stronger presence or he's done."
There's no need to stick a fork in him; or even to look at the little red thing sticking out of him. He was done before he was opened; He was precooked

Drago said...

"Elizabeth Warren isn’t mealymouthed or weak or afraid to call herself a Capitalist"

LOL

She wasn't afraid to call herself a Native American/Woman of Color either!!

Elizabeth Warren calls herself lots of things. I wonder if any of them are actually true.

mccullough said...

Warren called herself a Cherokee. Now she’s a Capitalisr Cherokee.

Hick actually started and owned businesses. Warren was a House flipper.

Aunty Trump said...

Blogger Inga...Allie Oop said...
Elizabeth Warren isn’t mealymouthed or weak or afraid to call herself a Capitalist.


Her history is that she will check any box that she figures will give her some kind of advantage, whatever the facts.

mccullough said...

Schultz said he had no home in the Dem Party. It’s why he’s not running as a Dem.

Hick is just stupid. He should stay in Colorado and get high.

gilbar said...

As a pure matter of politics,

My $0.02 worth is that as a pure matter of politics, his (not best, but) ONLY shot is to join up with the Starbucks guy (as Schultz' VP), and run as the adults in the room. it's a long shot, but it's the shot he's got. He can NOT run as a democrat
Not POC
Not female
NOT a BILLIONAIRE

mccullough said...

Muslims don’t drink beer. Hick is Islamophobic because he started a business to make a product that excludes Muslims. He’s also anti-Mormon.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“... or an Indian.”

If you think for a second that will harm her among Democrats and many independents, you’re very foolish. No one that would vote for a Democratic candidate cares about the fake controversy and the right repeating it every time her name comes up is simply Warren Derangement Syndrome and stupidity.

Charlie Currie said...

He says we need to come together so we can get things done. Has he talked with the Hawaiian judge and gotten a sign off on getting things done. Without the Hawaiian judge's approval, you just sit and twiddle your thumbs.

Aunty Trump said...

No one that would vote for a Democratic candidate cares about affirmative action fraud...

Fixed it for you!

Jeff Brokaw said...

What a train wreck that party has become, when you have to distance yourself from profit motive to placate the Marxist nuttery wing.

Rick said...

You don't like labels but you sound like more of a centrist.

Apparently a centrist is now someone who doesn't openly assert businesses are their enemy. It seems like every time the left media wants to claim a centrist exists the standard is something that until last week didn't conflict with being liberal.

I've tried to avoid this all the labeling that goes on.

Translation:
I want to be a left winger for now while retaining the ability to pretend to be a centrist for the general.

Drago said...

There is a lane for a capitalist moderate against 12 anti-white Socialists. It’s not like he’s running against Bernie or Kamala one on one.

He’s a fucking idiot if his strategy is to try and appeal to the crazies that make up almost half the party. Go for the sane white voters in the Dem primary. That will get you some primary victories. Hope the 25% gets you the mod.


Have you taken a gander at the dem's new rules for Super Delegates and vote tallying at the convention?

No Super Delegates are allowed to vote on the first ballot, but if no candidate receives a majority on that first ballot, the Super Delegates can ride in like the cavalry and select the party approved nominee.

The dems are really all for that "count all votes"/"democracy" thing....except for their own nominating process. The party leaders still get to keep their fingers on the scale with the ability to directly select about 16% of the total # of delegates in play (the super delegates).

They have also front loaded some specific big states that will take out some interlopers early.

mccullough said...

Warren was the one who released the DNA test showing she wasn’t an Indian. She’s also the one who apologized to the Cherokee who don’t use DNA tests in assessing whether someone is a member of their tribe.

Trump baited her and she took the bait. She works for Trump.

Now Trump has baited the Socialists. The United States will never be a Socialist country. Venezuela is in ruins.

Bernie has no response to this. He’s a fucking idiot. Hick had his chance not to be an idiot like Warren and The Socialists.

Mike Sylwester said...

Howard Schultz openly disdains the Democrat Party's socialists.

John Hickenlooper does not feel free to do the same.

Joe Biden might feel constrained similarly.

However, Schultz is a genuine liberal running as an Independent against Socialists and against Trump.

If Schultz continues to run as an Independent, he will be safe from the Left's usual racism accusations. Schultz used his Starbucks position to act against perceived racism and was mocked for doing so.

Also, Schultz was unusually generous in providing relatively good pay and benefits -- in particular medical insurance -- to his ordinary employees.

And Schultz is rich enough to fund his own campaign.

If Schultz continues to run for President and if the Democrat Party nominates a leftist candidate, the Schultz might affect the election significantly.

Howard Schultz interviewed by Bill Kristol on BookTV.

chickenlittle said...

The playbook is set for the Dems: They must run a socialist, and preferably a WOC. It is simply too late in the game to change this. And they must be allowed to fail to, or at least be allowed to see how far they can game the system through shady voting practices. That is the strategy and all that's left are the tactics. It must play out this way now.

Drago said...

"What a train wreck that party has become, when you have to distance yourself from profit motive to placate the Marxist nuttery wing."

And never forget, this is the democrat party that Bill Kristol, Max Boot, and basically all the other LLR/NeverTrumpers want to give power to.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Her history is that she will check any box that she figures will give her some kind of advantage, whatever the facts.”

You folks didn’t and don’t care about Trump being a fraudster, you don’t have any moral authority to say anything derogatory about Warren (but I’m sure you will because you’re hypocrites). Trump University obviously was not a fraud to you people, so your perception of reality is pretty messed up.

Rick said...

Inga...Allie Oop said...
“... or an Indian.”

If you think for a second that will harm her among Democrats and many independents, you’re very foolish.


I don't think Warren's lies about medical bankruptcy will hurt her among Democrats and many independents either. They appreciate her willingness to lie for the cause.

Drago said...

"Howard Schultz interviewed by Bill Kristol on BookTV."

It must have been uncomfortable for Kristol to interview a proud capitalist, now that Kristol has gone full socialist.

Larry J said...

I lived in Colorado for 27 years, including a few with Hickenlooper as governor. Like all the Democrat governors while I lived there, he was more the Governor of Denver and Boulder than of Colorado. He pandered to his base and either ignored or punished everywhere else. I left Colorado in 2012 and have never regretted the move.

Drago said...

Inga: "You folks didn’t and don’t care about Trump being a fraudster, you don’t have any moral authority to say anything derogatory about Warren..."

You support an open liar who appropriated the identity of Native Americans that her family members actually helped to oppress.

It is you who have no moral authority to say anything derogatory about anyone else.

You and your LLR blog pal/ally need to up your game.

Rick said...

Go for the sane white voters in the Dem primary.

With dozens of votes available in that market it seems like his best strategy. Probably still not enough to win though.

chickenlittle said...

Elizabeth Warren is not a WOC, despite her lame effort to be one. She doesn't seem get the WOC base fired up at all. But she does have enormous appeal to older white women, so there is that.

Aunty Trump said...

Trump University obviously was not a fraud to you people, so your perception of reality is pretty messed up.

Whether he went into with good intentions, which I suspect, or as a knowing fraudulent scheme aimed at the unwary, like Hillary did with Whitewater, is it nearly as bad as saddling millions of kids with tens of thousands of dollars in unshakeable debt for worthless degrees like “Women’s Studies”?

Not to mention driving up the costs of a degree by forcing universities to pile on more and more administrators to deal with all of the regulations and mandates Democrats have pushed on universities? Are all of those regulations worth a lifetime of debt?

mccullough said...

Trump didn’t run as a moralist.

Warren is a Moralist. Holier-than-Thou.

She’s no better than Trump as an individual. They both do what they want.

And Trump is much better at politics. Warren’s problem isn’t that she is a liar like the rest. It’s that she is a School Marm who is as dirty as everyone else. But Trump is smarter than she is. Or she is dumber than Trump. Because he baited her and she took the bait.

We can have phonies run the country. But we can’t have stupid people running the country. Warren is stupid.

Rick said...

Inga: "You folks didn’t and don’t care about Trump being a fraudster, you don’t have any moral authority to say anything derogatory about Warren..."

If this were the standard left wingers wouldn't have any authority to say anything derogatory about Trump. So I guess it's not the standard.

Jeremy Abrams said...

Schultz could run a strong campaign and even do better than the dem candidate. But Trump has hugged his base tighter than he hugged that flag last week, and he's getting 40% of the vote no matter what.

Maybe if the dem candidate abdicated in Schultz's favor in September, not inconceivable as part of the left's passion to get Trump...

MadisonMan said...

How is Elizabeth Warren a Capitalist? She's the "You didn't Build That" lady, isn't she? That's what she'd say about Gov. Hickenlooper's start-ups

Inga...Allie Oop said...

A dog could run on the Democratic ticket and win. You know why?

Trump. Look what happened in 2018. Evers winning in Wisconsin should be a hint to you.

Drago said...

BTW, just watch the video of "Li'l tomahawk" Warren swilling beer on camera just as "naturally" as John Kerry asking "can I get me a huntin' license here" and Hillary speaking in her native southern dialect (LOL) "I ain't no ways tarred" and Michael Dukakis riding in a tank with his patented Alfred E Neuman dopey expression.

Unbelievably funny.

Kamala/Corey/Anyone else is going to rip Warren for her racial identity theft if it comes to that.

mccullough said...

Warren was the valedictorian of Trump University. She made a lot of money flipping houses.

Aunty Trump said...

It’s interesting how Democrat trolls don’t deny Democrat malfeasance, they justify it by accusing Trump of this or that.

Here is the TD;DR version of the Democrat pitch to American voters: “You’re in a hole! Keep digging!"

Drago said...

Inga: "A dog could run on the Democratic ticket and win."

Well, perhaps the dog identifies as a Native American too, just like Warren.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Why Elizabeth Warren Still Calls Herself a Capitalist”

"Encouraging companies to build their business models on cheating people — that’s not capitalism," Warren says.”

An interview with Warren.

Drago said...

Inga: "Trump. Look what happened in 2018. Evers winning in Wisconsin should be a hint to you"

You told us Trump had no chance to win in 2016.

You told us the hoax dossier is real.

You keep telling us that under oath testimony by Christopher Steele and Bruce Ohr and McCabe and Strzok and Page and Baker is a "conspiracy" theory.

Have you ever admitted to anything you've ever been wrong about?

I'll bet you haven't.

Mr. Majestyk said...

Charlie Currie @ 12:18: That was hilarious! Sad too, because there's much truth to it. So you achieved said + hilarious - congratulations!

Mr. Majestyk said...

Sad + ...

EDH said...

I just hope Hickenlooper captures his party's nomination through a little-known technicality.

Because then we can refer to it as the "Hickenlooper Loophole".

Drago said...

Interesting test for Inga: Did Warren lie about her heritage?

Yes or no.

Yancey Ward said...

Wow, that was really an awful, awful performance.

Here is the thing I just don't get- a Democrat can run in the Democratic primary as a full-throated capitalist, and can deliberately attack the far left of the party, and win the nomination. In the field so far, that position is completely open at the moment since all the other declared candidates are basically openly socialist. Such a candidate would surely find that he/she would garner a solid 30+% of the voters in the primaries- a bloc quite a bit larger than anyone else's. Hickenlooper is missing a big fucking opportunity with this awful performance. Schultz, in my opinion, should reconsider his strategy and participate in the primaries directly- he can't win as a third party candidate, and I do think he would sure peal off at least 5% of the right side of the ultimate Democratic candidate's most economically conservative potential voters.

In short, if Schultz wants to be president- run as Democrat right now in the primaries- there is a big open section of the primary voters he can win that no declared candidate at the moment can.

chickenlittle said...

Of all the Dem candidates, Kamala seems to be the most malleable. Perhaps that's why she's still the frontrunner.

Aunty Trump said...

Kamala/Corey/Anyone else is going to rip Warren for her racial identity theft if it comes to that

Could have been a black law professor hired by Harvard, but they chose the fake Indian with the Rutgers degree. We can just picture a Professor Higgens type at Harvard discuss her credentials to teach at Harvard: “How delightfully low!”

She came from by far the lowest ranked law school of anybody on the faculty.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Blogger Aunty Tim from Vermont said...

“It’s interesting how Democrat trolls don’t deny Democrat malfeasance, they justify it by accusing Trump of this or that.”

Interesting how Trump Cultists just gloss over the Trump University Fraud.

Drago said...

"Here is the thing I just don't get- a Democrat can run in the Democratic primary as a full-throated capitalist, and can deliberately attack the far left of the party, and win the nomination."

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Drago said...

Inga: "Interesting how Trump Cultists just gloss over the Trump University Fraud."

Dems used to gloss over Billy Clinton shoving cigars up interns and Hillary viciously attacking the intern.

Give me the Trump university scenario.

mccullough said...

Warren has no moral authority to call anyone a cheater. She lied about being Indian to get jobs. She was ambitious and didn’t mind cheating to get ahead. No different than any business person.

This is basic stuff. The first rule of cheating is dont get caught. The second rule of cheating is don’t be a hypocrite.


Rick said...

Inga...Allie Oop said...
A dog could run on the Democratic ticket and win. You know why?

Trump. Look what happened in 2018


You'd think a better test would be a year with Trump actually on the ballot. Has that happened recently? I'm pretty sure whichever year it was the Dems ran a dog. What happened?

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Could have been a black law professor hired by Harvard, but they chose the fake Indian with the Rutgers degree. We can just picture a Professor Higgens type at Harvard discuss her credentials to teach at Harvard: “How delightfully low!””

Why do men from Vermont want to be seen as women?

Aunty Trump said...

that’s not capitalism

Oh, Warren gets to define capitalism now. Well if I get to define socialism, then I will happily cop to being a socialist.

Drago said...

Notice how Inga runs away and cannot address the fact that Warren, for her own personal profit and career advancement, appropriated the heritage of Native Americans that her own family helped to oppress.

Warren is no more effective at addressing it than Inga. Which is why she will get shellacked.

Sebastian said...

"hopelessly mealymouthed"

Wait, I thought you wanted meh?

chickenlittle said...

Look what happened in 2018. Evers winning in Wisconsin should be a hint to you

Yet Wisconsin had to go through 2 successive successful terms of Walker in order to reject him. Trump may get the same benefit. Things don't happen in lockstep, with 2018 being a predictor of 2020.

Some of the nasty actions and words of the incoming Dem freshwomen may actually hurt the Dems in 2020. I think Pelosi senses this.

Drago said...

Inga has yet to admit there are open anti-semites in the democrat party that the dems have no power nor stomach to control, so lets just say that Inga is not exactly the "clearest-eyed political analyst" you are likely to come across.

AJ Lynch said...

Hickenlooper hastens to brag he's been part of 250 non-profits! JFC where do these non-profit loving dopes think the non-profits get their money? From a lot of people who made a lot of money from for-profit businesses.

A pet peeve of mine is to hear some young college grad say "my goal is to work for a non-profit blah blah blah". I am tempted to try and knock some sense into their brainwashed little brains.

And btw, Hickenlooper went to a prep school about two miles from my office. It's a great school and its tuition is $39,500 per year for the high school. I am sure it has a nice endowment which got many donations from capitalists.

Aunty Trump said...

Why do men from Vermont want to be seen as women?

Who are you to judge? Careful or the younger members of your party are going to invite you to a “struggle session” over your bigoted and, BTW, retrograde belief in gender binaries.

Mike said...

Warren created the anti capitalist and extra-constitutional CFPB and wrote the law so poorly Trump was able to subvert its disastrous mission by appointing a successor. Yep, Warren thought her fascist creation would be staffed by Hillary and never contemplated what would become of the CFPB if someone opposed to its fascist bent took the helm of it. So in addition to being a rapacious capitalist pig Warren is a forked-tongue dummy who rails against free markets, while enriching herself and attempting to Game the system with consumer “protection” that only protects bankers and DNC donors.

mccullough said...

AJ,

Great comment. All non-profits survive on the blood money of Capitalism.

Warren’s $400,000 a year salary teaching the children of the 1% at Harvard is paid by the Capitalists. No escaping it.

Yancey Ward said...

From a purely logical point of view, a candidate entering the Democratic primary should look to see where the field itself is centering it's politics- at the moment, every declared candidate is positioning themselves to divide up the 70% of the primary voters that are at least lukewarm socialists. Sanders basically owns 1/3 of that 70% by being a socialist by name and long reputation- the other 6 declared candidates are now fighting for 50% of the electorate.

Maybe Joe Biden runs as such a candidate that I think can win the nomination easily, but his record wouldn't suggest he has that kind of maverick streak in him. Clearly, Hickenlooper doesn't have it in him. Only Schultz seems to at the moment, and he doesn't plan to compete for the Democratic nomination. The Democrats are fucking lunatics.

Drago said...

"Great comment. All non-profits survive on the blood money of Capitalism."

Indeed.

Time to expand the truism the to include non-profits.

You can have just as much socialism and non-profit success as your capitalism can pay for.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Socialism, Communism and Fascism are all systems of government control. Coerced.

Capitalism is not a system of government, it's a system of commerce. Un-coerced.

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Francisco D said...

However, Schultz is a genuine liberal running as an Independent against Socialists and against Trump.

That would make Schultz a rare breed: "genuine liberal."

I was a liberal growing up and I am still a liberal. However, the last Democrat I voted for was Jimmy Carter.

I did not leave the Democrat Party. It left me. It took Ronald Reagan to help me figure that out.

AJ Lynch said...

Yancey Ward - I agree the Dems are fucking lunatics. I just hope enough voters see it that way too.

Mike said...

Well said, Bleachbit Bimbo.

buwaya said...

Hickenlooper is a man out of time, obsolete, Rip van Winkle desperately trying to keep up. So is Schultz really. Both depend on or imagine real businesses, real storefronts, selling physical things. Thats not where power is.

Ken B said...

I have a negative view to at least some extent of each candidate. But so far the only ones who seem to have anything going for them at all are Schultz and O'Rourke. They are the only ones even trying to sound sane.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

The idea that human greed is only related to capitalism is a leftwing lie. Sadly, one that is preached by leftists in our schools. Our government run schools.

All sorts of human greed, the worst kind of human greed, comes from communism, socialism, and fascism and all the various forms of an oppressive, coercive, punitive government state.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Leftist must sell poison (the kind Inga drinks whole) so that they can blame capitalism and replace it with a government-control-centered system.

Mike said...

“For the love of money is the root of all evil.”

Aunty Trump said...

The real problem for the Democrats is that Trump read the tea leaves and took the easy new coalition, including a sizable tranche of Democrats that the Democrat Party had abandoned. Now their strategy against Trump is to kick more Democrats out of the tent.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Socialism, Communism and Fascism are all systems of government control. Coerced.

Capitalism is not a system of government, it's a system of commerce. Uncoerced.



That: on bumpersticker.

anti-de Sitter space said...

All governments are systems of government control. Coerced.

No government. Uncoerced.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Elizabeth Warren cashed in.
Bernie Cashed in.
The Clinton's cashed in big time.

On the tax payer funded government whoring.

Mike said...

No government. Uncoerced.

Leftists, when they can’t get the fascist government they want, will always settle for anarchy, mistakenly thinking all the armed Patriots will just go along. How stupid is that!

rhhardin said...

Elizabeth Warren started with a small wigwam and grew it nationwide.

Skeptical Voter said...

Inga you mention "Warren Derangement Syndrome". Let me break it to you gently. Most sentient human beings don't waste much time thinking about Elizabeth Warren. While I don't want to go all snotty scotty on this, her choice of law school (always go to the best law school you can get in to) was not impressive. She parlayed fake Indian credentials to get ahead.

And once she got on the Harvard law faculty, she became an expert of sorts in bankruptcy law--and made a bunch of money in the housing market.

Well whoopty doo. To be a successful politician, you have to be able to at least fake sincerity and authenticity. That takes more than 1/1024th Cherokee blood, or a beer in the kitchen. Call me a fussy old geezer, but I've never liked seeing 70ish year old women swigging beer from a bottle. It's just not authentic.


Contrast that with Trump. You call him a liar and a fraudster (you left out pussy grabber and serial adulterer). Okay there is all of that. But what you see is what you get with Trump. He may well be a jerk, but he'll let you know what's on his mind, and there is no doubt that he believes it (at least at the moment he says it). Trump the man is authenticity personified. You may not like what he is (and a lot of people don't) but unlike Ms. Warren, he's not going to waste your time blowing smoke up your backside.


I don't waste time thinking about fake authenticity.



Ralph L said...

Voluntary Transactions!
Collusion not Coercion!
You'd think more Republicans would make that distinction more often.

NOTE: Based on the video, a fixed a couple things in the transcript
Thank oo.

FullMoon said...


Some of the nasty actions and words of the incoming Dem freshwomen may actually hurt the Dems in 2020.

Only if the average voter becomes aware. Most people have no idea.
"Elizabeth Warren" was the answer to a simple (to us)Jeopardy question last year.

None of the well informed trivia expert contestants knew who she was. Even after Alex gave the answer with minor explanation, their faces were blank.


BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Hickenloopper is moderate, but he will fall in line with the radical left which in the end will mean he's as leftist as the whole leftwing pack.

Friendo said...

Pathetic gun grabber. What a loser.

Paco Wové said...

John Hickenlooper and the Capitalism that Dare Not Speak its Name

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

S V @ 1:14

Well done.

tcrosse said...

“For the love of money is the root of all evil.”

Kierkegaard said that Boredom is the root of all evil, something Althouse should bear in mind.

chickenlittle said...

Another Sunday, another D candidate culled. There are still so many to go before we sleep.

Leland said...

What is silly is characterizing all businesses as interested in profit over all else in order to avoid saying "you believe in markets" or "putting capital to work to create jobs in a market". The whole "putting people to work to improve the community" can be said of labor camps.

Next weekend, I'll visit with my college roommate. He lives in Colorado but works in Korea. I can understand why.

Aunty Trump said...

Kierkegaard said that Boredom is the root of all evil, something Althouse should bear in mind.

Wasn’t that the point of her Scooby Doo clip?

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

btw - Ann - Your take is exactly on target. He is mealymouthed. He does sound weak. Nothing new. This is his personality and it got him far in CO. And sadly, we would all take him back if we could get rid of horrid fascist shit show Polis.
Hick is not a bad guy at all, but he'll be bulldozed.

He's trying to straddle the line, and he isn't doing it like Obama.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Most sentient human beings don't waste much time thinking about Elizabeth Warren.”

Hahaha, not if one reads the comments section of this blog.

Aunty Trump said...

Did Warren swigging a beer remind you of this?

Granny Warren

Bay Area Guy said...

Schultz is right. These Leftwing fuckheads disdain capitalism despite all the centuries of evidence that it is an engine for prosperity and peace.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Leftwing government whores TAKE from the producers, then they shit on the producers... dutifully calling them greedy, right after they take their donations.

Annie C said...

"No one that would vote for a Democratic candidate cares about the fake controversy and the right repeating it every time her name comes up is simply Warren Derangement Syndrome and stupidity."

It's funny as hell. No syndrome, just humor. Lighten up.

Aunty Trump said...

It's funny as hell. No syndrome, just humor. Lighten up.

You know what she’s thinking... “That’s not funny!"

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Another Sunday, another D candidate culled. There are still so many to go before we sleep.”

It’s not up to Althouse alone to decide on who the Democratic nominee will be,

rehajm said...

But Trump has hugged his base tighter than he hugged that flag last week, and he's getting 40% of the vote no matter what.

Maybe if the dem candidate abdicated in Schultz's favor in September, not inconceivable as part of the left's passion to get Trump...


I agree at it currently stands this is where we're at. I know there was lip service about how the Dems rewrote their rules so as to avoid coronations but that was only lip service. I suspect Schultz will influence who gets coronated then he'll bow out...

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“It's funny as hell. No syndrome, just humor. Lighten up.”

You know what’s funny? People who voted for Trump and still support him despite the fraud of Trump University.

Mike said...

Boredom is a self-inflicted affectation, a sign of a mind unable to adequately think fir itself. You have to be awfully comfortable to allow boredom to afflict you. That’s why only pampered children tend to complain about being bored. The old saying, “idle hands are the Devils workshop” seems apt here, considering idle hands are often tied to idling minds.

Mike said...

The fraud of Trump University...

Who was defrauded? Didn’t unsatisfied “students” get their money back? Where’s the fraud?

Drago said...

Inga still refuses to admit Warren stole the heritage of the Native American peoples the Warren family literally helped to oppress.

LOL

Just like Li'l Lizzie!

A certain LLR on his best day couldnt help Li'l tomahawk Warren out of this mess!!

(Not that he wont try with all his might...)

Inga pretends cultural appropriation is not a big thing to the lefty dem nominating base voters.

'Cuz history began this morning...

Aunty Trump said...

You know what’s funny? People who voted for Trump and still support him despite the fraud of Trump University

Ha ha ha! Said the person pushing the candidacy of the affirmative action fraudster! Trump is the only president we have now, so we have to consider the situation as a whole, but you could choose any candidate now, but still you choose a fraudster. I never voted for Trump in any primary, but the choice was Hillary at the time, and now the choice is impeachment. You could just find somebody honest, but you can’t seem to.

“You’re in a hole, stop digging!” But no, just shoulder up the pick and shovel and go deeper!

Aunty Trump said...

Who was defrauded? Didn’t unsatisfied “students” get their money back? Where’s the fraud?

Logic is a tool of the patriarchy.

Mike said...

IF any voter knows Lizzie’s. And it is most likely because of the Pocahontas controversy. Otherwise she is quite unknown to people in the street.

Mike said...

“Lizzie’s name” I meant.

Mike said...

Do over:

IF any voter knows Lizzie’s name it is most likely because of the Pocahontas controversy. Otherwise she is quite unknown to people in the street.

FIFM

Drago said...

"Logic is a tool of the patriarchy."

Its much much worse than that.

Our very own victoria from Passdena declared statistical probability distributions both "racist and sexist".

Literally.

And she wasnt joking. She. Was. Not. Joking.

We also have Inga in full throated defense of democrat anti-semiteswho attack jews and want Israel destroyed.

On top of the LLR/NeverTrumpers beibg completely exposed as lefty-supporting quislings and shills, the masks have all been ripped off.

And thats a very good thing.

Big Mike said...

The playbook is set for the Dems: They must run a socialist, and preferably a WOC. It is simply too late in the game to change this.

At this point in the 2016 election cycle the playbook was equally set for the GOP — the nomination would go to either Rubio or Jeb! with an outside chance for Cruz. Only Cruz was among the last three standing. The Iowa caucuses and the snows of New Hampshire are still a long ways off from the Ides of March. The voters still need to weigh in.

Rabel said...

I'm fascinated by the range of movement in his eyebrows.

He truly has a gift.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Who was defrauded? Didn’t unsatisfied “students” get their money back? Where’s the fraud?”

Would they have gotten their money back without suing Trump? It was a fraud case, duh. Oh looky here’s another case...

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-scammed-cash-strapped-investors-with-false-promises-lawsuit-says-2018-10-29

“President Donald Trump and his children made millions as they swindled working-class, aspiring entrepreneurs with the promise of lucrative business deals, according to a new lawsuit.

The class action lawsuit filed Monday alleges there was a simple goal behind the complex con – enrichment “by systematically defrauding economically marginalized people looking to invest in their educations, start their own business, and pursue the American Dream.”

Trump recruited prospective investors by telling them about a “great opportunity” at ACN, a multi-level marketing company, the lawsuit states. Trump told the would-be investors that he’d done his own research and wasn’t endorsing the company for any money, court papers say.“
———————————————-
No. Your hypocrisy is astounding, your Trump sycophancy is gross.

daskol said...

I think Yancheng is on point. If Hickenlooper had political instincts and courage he would embrace a label that differentiated him from the rest of the field. But that’s not what politicians do. Nothing seems to terrify and flummox them more. That’s why Trump made the 2015 GOP field look cowardly—like badly programmed robots trying to mimic moving human speech without saying anything sharp or substantial. That’s also why it’s very difficult to imagine a politician doing well this coming election. On the national stage, we’ve seen how vivid political speech can move people. I don’t think we’re going back to mush-mouthed political hacks. The Dems may nominate a hack or a cipher, but hard to imagine the country embracing them, even if they mimic Trump and literally hug the flag.

Michael K said...

You can have just as much socialism and non-profit success as your capitalism can pay for.

Venezuela is now proving Thatcher right about "running out of other people's money."

rhhardin said...

That's where I turned it off, judging Hickenlooper to be hopelessly mealymouthed

Even listening to a democrat is a woman thing. (A "He means well" or not judgment)

Unless there's a stink about a democrat in the democrat party the guy isn't worth listening to. The other democrats are the litmus test.

Big Mike said...

Some of the more savvy Jews are discovering that, just like union rank and file before them, they are expendable members of the Democrat coalition. The most reasonable analysis of this phenomenon suggested that Jews tend to live in urban areas where the Democrats are certain to win whether they have the Jewish vote or not. Seems plausible, but I note that the author showed no demographic data to back up that assertion.

Bay Area Guy said...

I start most political discussions with the following premises:

1. Despite its flaws, the USA is a beacon of light, and the last, best hope for mankind.

2. We proved this by beating the colonialists, the slave holders, the Nazis in WW2 and the Communists in the Cold War.

So, if one accepts these premises, it is reasonable to ask; how did the USA achieve this?

Again, in answering, I stay broad and general. The USA became a great power by adopting:

1. a capitalist financial sysyem based on free markets and profit incentives;
2. a Constitutional legal system, based on Separation of Powers, property rights, and the rule of law.
3. a Judeo-Christian value system, based on the Biblle and the Golden Rule.

The Left does believe in any of this stuff. They want post-birth abortions, gay marriage, lifetime govt jobs with pensions, open borders and multi-cultural diversity.

Mealy-mouth John Hickenlooper just jumped head first into the Leftwing swamp.

Feel free to correct me if any of the above is wrong.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

We’ll be hearing a lot more about Trump’s fraudulent activities in the months to come. You can count on that.

https://www.axios.com/michael-cohen-hearing-trump-organization-executives-119c11fc-e84e-4796-8e07-da631e140f3e.html

Near the end of Michael Cohen's testimony yesterday, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez asked the former fixer whether President Trump had ever run an insurance fraud. Cohen said yes, naming three Trump Organization executives: Allen Weisselberg, Ron Lieberman and Matthew Calamari.

This organization has never had a proctology exam like it's about to get," Bloomberg's Timothy O'Brien told me shortly after watching Cohen's testimony. "It's going to surface records. That's going to become problematic for all of them to keep their stories straight."

O'Brien is in a good position to know. In 2006, Trump tried — and failed — to sue O'Brien for $5 billion for writing that Trump had a much lower net worth than he claimed.

In the course of that litigation, because Trump went after O'Brien on financial grounds, O'Brien got his tax returns and financial records.”

Jim at said...

But she does have enormous appeal to older white women, so there is that.

Yep. She's a screeching, scolding harpy who appeals to? Other screeching, scolding harpies.

That's a winning formula for sure.

Jim at said...

Trump. Look what happened in 2018. Evers winning in Wisconsin should be a hint to you.

You keep trotting out this bullshit as if it means anything.

Obama lost 63 seats in 2010. Sixty. Three.
And what happened in 2012?

rcocean said...

"We need to get past labels" "We need to come together and stop the politics of division"

Combined with: 1) Pro-abortion 2) Pro-gun control 3) Open borders globalism 4) Refusal to denounce socialism 5) Attacks on Republicans as Racist

= Phony moderate & gutless leftist.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Speaking of Trump’s frauds... Elizabeth Warren’s claim to Native American ancestry “pales” in comparison.

“Trump Foundation to shut down under agreement with New York attorney general”

President Donald Trump's personal charity will shut down and disperse whatever funds it still has under a new agreement announced Tuesday by New York Attorney General Barbara Underwood.

The attorney general’s office sued the Trump Foundation in June, alleging the president and several of his children used it for their personal and political benefit. That lawsuit, which seeks millions of dollars in restitution, will continue, even as the foundation agrees to cease existence.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/18/trump-foundation-to-shut-down-1067924

The Vault Dweller said...

You folks didn’t and don’t care about Trump being a fraudster, you don’t have any moral authority to say anything derogatory about Warren (but I’m sure you will because you’re hypocrites).

It isn't about moral authority, it is about whether the American-Indian claims harm her in the Democratic primary. Before you claim no one cares, why then would she herself try to fix the situation by completely unpromptedly releasing the results of a DNA test to "prove" she was American-Indian. The most reasonable explanation is she herself thought that issue would harm her and wanted to circumvent it before she formally announced her candidacy. And I guarantee this isn't the last time the matter will be raised. The most likely people to bring it up in the future will be talking head surrogates for Kamala Harris, or journalists who support Kamala, who will publicly "worry" that Elizabeth Warren's Native American claim, harm her chances in the General as the mean and evil Trump and Republicans will hammer her on it endlessly.

Bay Area Guy said...

I notice a lot of Trump critics like to focus on a lotta stuff before his presidency, and not much stuff (like his economic record) during his presidency (Jan 2017 - present).

I wonder why that is?

Inga...Allie Oop said...

So many frauds to pick from...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-inauguration-spending-under-criminal-investigation-by-federal-prosecutors-11544736455

“Trump Inauguration Spending Under Criminal Investigation by Federal Prosecutors
Probe looking into whether committee misspent funds and top donors gave money in exchange for access to the administration”

daskol said...

There’s a point at which listing allegations of frauds and various investigations is counterproductive to Trump’s opponents. Makes it look like some kind of fishing expedition. Pretty sure we passed that point a while ago.

Drago said...

Inga: "Near the end of Michael Cohen's testimony yesterday, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez asked the former fixer whether President Trump had ever run an insurance fraud. Cohen said yes, naming
three Trump Organization executives: Allen Weisselberg, Ron Lieberman and Matthew Calamari."

LOL

Was this part of Adam Schiff's staff 10 hours of witness tampering coaching of Cohen in NYC prior to his "testimony" (much of which was already demonstrated lying...AGAIN!!!).

You should have seen AOC asking the planted question as if she understood anything about what she was talking about!

Funnier than watching Fauxahontas drink a beer "naturally" on cue on camera in her totally unrehearsed video....

daskol said...

Not where there’s smoke there’s fire, rather someone turn off the smoke machine. It’s gotten tiresome.

John Ray said...

Most, not all, in this discussion seem to think of Hickenpooper as moderate or centrist. Elsewhere, I gather that people see him as one who can bring two sides together to reach a joint concencus. They cite the Colorado O&G industry and the liberals agreeing to multiple problems perceived by the greenies. A bit of research will show that he never was a moderate or centrist. As to the O&G industry, research will show that Higgenpooper rammed the greenies desired rules down the O&G industry's throat and the pumpjacks up their fannies, installing rules that are engineering impossible to this very day. Hickenpooper as as far left as fauxhantis & Harris, meaning not quite as far left as AOC

Mike said...

So are you saying he was CONVICTED of fraud, Inga? Because it looks like he settled out of court without admitting fraud. Is that the new standard? So we can say Clinton did rape Paula Jones because they settled out of court? Are you sure that’s the standard you want to live by?

Drago said...

Inga and her LLR pals think their lawfare tactics are going to work against Trump.

Anyone notice how little Inga talks about the hoax dossier and hoax collusion?

Like it never existed..

Mike said...

I know. I know. Fen’s law and all.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Trump shuts down his foundation, willingly, and it's still a crime!

Did the Clintons shut down their foundation ? No never. Still up and running.

Murph said...
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Murph said...

Re: capitalism.

Is it time yet to once again read Francisco's money speech?

https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/franciscos-money-speech/

Drago said...

The NEXT investgation will get Trump!!

Always THE NEXT INVESTIGATION!!

wholelottasplainin' said...

Inga posted:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-scammed-cash-strapped-investors-with-false-promises-lawsuit-says-2018-10-29

“President Donald Trump and his children made millions as they swindled working-class, aspiring entrepreneurs...
**********************

Yeah, that's a slam dunk, ain't it.

EXCEPT the plaintiffs have chosen to remain anonymous, and a court has let them do it. Funny how the right to confront one's accusers got lost in the shuffle, no?

Michael K said...

Shorter comment threads at Chicago Boys and Neoneocon but we don't have Inga,

Drago said...

You have to give the dem leadership alot of credit. They know just how to play their lefty/dem/LLR moron base to keep them "believing"!!

You would think all the previous outcomes would be sufficient to cause the lefty/dem/LLR base to question their Dem masters....

......NOPE!!

LOL

Drago said...

Bruce Ohr's released testimony exposes dozens of Adam Schiffty's lies over the last 2 years (no wonder the dems and their LLR wanted NO documents released) and the lefties/LLR's remain in Unicorn Mode!!




Inga...Allie Oop said...

“This month, two incredible investigative stories have given us an opportunity to lift the hood of the Trump Organization, look inside, and begin to understand what the business of this unusual company actually is. It is not a happy picture. The Times published a remarkable report, on October 2nd, that showed that much of the profit the Trump Organization made came not from successful real-estate investment but from defrauding state and federal governments through tax fraud. This week, ProPublica and WNYC co-published a stunning story and a “Trump, Inc.” podcast that can be seen as the international companion to the Times piece. They show that many of the Trump Organization’s international deals also bore the hallmarks of financial fraud, including money laundering, deceptive borrowing, outright lying to investors, and other potential crimes.

The reporters—Heather Vogell and Peter Elkind of ProPublica, and Andrea Bernstein and Meg Cramer of WNYC—identified a similar pattern that occurred in deals around the world. The basic scheme worked like this: some local developer in Panama, the Dominican Republic, Florida, Canada, or some other location pays Trump, up front, for the use of his name and agrees to pay him a cut of every sale—not only of units but of things like hotel-room minibar items or, even, bathrobes. These projects typically require sixty per cent or more of units to be sold before construction gets under way. The same set of problems occurred in multiple projects. Many of the early units would be sold to shadow buyers—hidden behind shell companies. Donald Trump or, often, Ivanka Trump would deceive future investors by telling them that a much higher percentage of units had been sold than was factual. More investors pour money in, getting enough money into the project, often, to begin construction. Eventually, the project fails and goes bankrupt. Many of those investors lose all of their money. But the Trumps do not. They got paid up front and are paid continuously throughout until the day the project collapses. They are paid for their name and for overseeing the project, and, if the building is opened, the Trumps manage the property day to day, in exchange for hefty fees.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/swamp-chronicles/is-fraud-part-of-the-trump-organizations-business-model

Jon Burack said...

What cracks me up most is his saying "we've got to stop finding every excuse to divide ourselves." Yes, indeed. Since HIS party has already found every excuse imaginable to divide ourselves, why sure enough we could stop now. But "we" - meaning the Democrats - won't. He knows that. Hence he is mealy mouthed.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

So, when you point the finger at Warren for fraud regarding her claims of Native American Ancestry, compare and contrast your hero, The Fraudster in Chief.

You people are dupes.

Michael K said...

An interesting essay on where these people are coming from.

My students are know-nothings.They are exceedingly nice, pleasant, trustworthy, mostly honest, well-intentioned, and utterly decent. But their minds are largely empty, devoid of any substantial knowledge that might be the fruits of an education in an inheritance and a gift of a previous generation.They are the culmination of western civilization, a civilization that has forgotten it origins and aims, and as a result, has achieved near-perfect indifference about itself.

In other words, Democrats,

daskol said...

Except it’s not indifference, Michael K. Among the educated or at least credentialed elite, they evince a hostility to our civilization.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

"The real problem for the Democrats is that Trump read the tea leaves and took the easy new coalition, including a sizable tranche of Democrats that the Democrat Party had abandoned. Now their strategy against Trump is to kick more Democrats out of the tent."

This is the heart of the matter. What is the scenario in which the Cow Farts O'Casey insurrection gets the Donks more votes in 2020 than in 2016? With no charismatic, ostensibly centrist, candidates (even the frozen chosen would have to acknowledge that) the Democrats are exceedingly unlikely to top HRC's 2016 vote total.

Rick said...

“Trump Inauguration Spending Under Criminal Investigation by Federal Prosecutors
Probe looking into whether committee misspent funds and top donors gave money in exchange for access to the administration”


This sounds like the Clinton Foundation, except vastly smaller and not to foreign countries including Russia. I wonder why the far left is only concerned about Trump?

Just kidding. We know. It's like they have no principles or something.

Drago said...

Inga: "You people are dupes."

LOL

Hoax Golden dossier true-believer/Hoax collusion true-believer/Defender of dem party anti-semites would like to lecture us.

Let's pay very close attention to her rantings......

Michael K said...

they evince a hostility to our civilization.

Yeah, I agree but they don't know anything. They are functioning as ganglions reacting to stimuli. That is not thinking.

The indifference, in my opinion, is that they don't want to learn. They don't know anything and are uninterested in learning.

Drago said...

There will always, ALWAYS, be "new crimes" that will keep the dupes like Inga and her LLR allies in line.

Always.

The dems have it made with their moronic base.

The rest of the country?

Not so much.

Drago said...

AOC pronounces lefty/dem/LLR secular saint FDR a racist!!!

Meanwhile, AOC's pals have gone full anti-semite, full infanticide, full socialist.

And Nancy and gang can't stop them!!

Rick said...

Even left wingers know the country is better off under Trump than Obama. That's why they spend their time whining about the past rather than focusing on governance.

Drago said...

Tell us Inga, at what point did you begin to have some doubts as to the veracity of your hoax dossier?

Please don't tell us you are such a moron that you still buy into that!!!

LOL

daskol said...

They may be well-intentioned and nice, but they’re letting themselves be led by a coalition of people hostile to our civilization. The best among these leaders is merely corrupt and self-dealing.

Michael K said...

:Pretty good analysis of Trump and 2020.

And from the LA Times, of all places,.

Francisco D said...

they evince a hostility to our civilization.

My (independent thinking) stepson is a sophomore at a small Midwestern, liberal arts college. He believes that the liberal activist students and professors are quite ill informed and likely the dumbest people on campus.

I told him that they are not liberals. They are anti-Western Marxists.

He is trying to fully comprehend what that means.

daskol said...

Independent thought at small liberal arts colleges is very intimidating. Good luck to him.

Chris Lopes said...

Inga...Allie Oop said...
So, when you point the finger at Warren for fraud regarding her claims of Native American Ancestry, compare and contrast your hero, The Fraudster in Chief.

Trump isn't my hero, and I didn't vote for him. On the other hand, Warren (who is whiter then Marie Osmond) took a slot set aside for a real POC. So some actual POC got rejected by Havard so Harvard could have a POC who looked exactly like them. None of that is excused by the fact that I think Trump is an a** clown.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Inga... all hat and no cattle.

walter said...

A town in Vermont elected an actual (not trans) goat for mayor.
That should give hope to Warren-istas.
And if Rep. Ayanna Pressley gains traction on her idea to lower Federal election voting age to 16, dogs (especially cute fuzzy-wuzzie puppies) will definitely be more politically viable.
Evers is more a lemming...about to get paddled around by the Republican legislature.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Inga... all hat and no cattle.”

BUMBLE BEE...all ass and no stinger.

Bob Boyd said...

President Lukewarmhippie

traditionalguy said...

The Dems are inherently divided because their Goals are contradictory.

The Obama Deep State faction just wants the USA collapsed into a failed state that will then be looted by them and the World Govenment forces who invade after declaring that it is necessary to save the world by removing evil Jacksonian White Nationalists Gangsters from power in the old Revolutionary part of their North American Provence.

The other faction says they only want more mealy mouthed liberal policies to fix what is broken in the USA. But they don't dare to come out and offend the Obama Deep State faction that would have them killed when they win anyway.

And Trump's MAGA Army keeps on rolling.

Kevin said...

Let me just- I'm happy to say I'm a capitalist but I think at a certain point the labels do nothing but divide us.

The only place in America the label of capitalist is divisive is under the big tent of the Democrat Party.

Breezy said...

Given the current state of Venezuela, I think all candidates thinking that that’s a great system should be required to go live there for few months, at least. Then come back and try and convince us it’s great and fair and just.

narciso said...

I don't think it breaks down quite that way, the deep state want to achieve the latter's goals, but on their own time table,

Kevin said...

he was my first-pick among the current Democratic candidates, but I'd never listened to him speak before

So what are we basing our preferences on these days? Fawning profiles written by friendly journalists hoping to make each candidate seem like just another great choice under the party's big tent?

If Maduro could beat Trump, they'd write long pieces about how he was able to transform his country's energy sector.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Given the current state of Venezuela, I think all candidates thinking that that’s a great system should be required to go live there for few months, at least. Then come back and try and convince us it’s great and fair and just.”

In the meantime Germany and the Scandinavian countries are doing quite well.

narciso said...

the revolving door can only go one way:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/03/new-conservative-hire-at-cnn-demoted-from-editor-to-pundit-after-pressure-from-liberals/

Leland said...

Germany and the Scandinavian countries are doing quite well.

Still not as good as the US, where each person produces 20% more than the citizens of those countries, and we can supply our own food and energy needs.

tcrosse said...

Germany and the Scandinavian countries are doing quite well.

Well, they solved their Jewish Problem.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Still not as good as the US, where each person produces 20% more than the citizens of those countries, and we can supply our own food and energy needs.”

Indeed. America is fully capeable of doing better than any nation on earth and we won’t be seeing a Venezuelan future any time soon no matter what political party is in power.

walter said...

With respect to Europe, the new crop of Dems would give us Greece.

narciso said...


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/stunning-admission-freshman-dem-lawmaker-admits-standing-against-anti-semitism-is-not-the-priority-of-the-entire-caucus-video/

Phidippus said...

"In his dreams, he beats Donald Trump. Noted."

Brutal! And true.

In her dreams, our Hostess dreams she can find a Democrat to vote for who doesn't turn out to be a terminally sad sack of parakeet droppings, or worse, once you corner them.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“In her dreams, our Hostess dreams she can find a Democrat to vote for who doesn't turn out to be a terminally sad sack of parakeet droppings, or worse, once you corner them.”

So why do you think Althouse may not want to vote for Trump?

Kevin said...

America is fully capeable of doing better than any nation on earth

I think that was Trump's message he rode to the White House.

n.n said...

Capitalism is the democratic economic system based on the once novel belief that workers should retain their earnings. It is frequently supplemented with layers of private and public smoothing functions. And optimized through the temperance of a religious/moral philosophy that recognizes intrinsic value, individual dignity, and, perhaps, inordinate worth. It reconciles with the natural limit of resources that are finitely available and accessible.

n.n said...

new-conservative-hire-at-cnn-demoted-from-editor-to-pundit-after-pressure-from-liberals

the revolving door can only go one way


Here's to progress. #PrinciplesMatter

narciso said...

The way Venezuela came to be it rose on the barrel price, and built their safety net around that, by 1985, the price crashed and that caused austeritery programs to be introduced carlos andres perez, who had nationalized the oil company, ran on restoring the safety net, he came back and imposed an even more agregious austerity program, that created the caracazo two years later Chavez came along,

FullMoon said...

Is Chuck still around?

What has been proven without a shadow of a doubt at this point is that Rep. Adam Schiff is a liar. There’s no other way to spin this.

cubanbob said...

While it is always possible that trump could do something really stupid ( as any president could) with the Left lurch the Democrats have taken the only real question is does trump carry thirty states in 2020 or thirty five states in 2020? Who would venture he has an outside chance of pulling 38 states?

Inga tells us how wonderful Germany and Sweden are doing. Germany: 20% VAT rate and 42% at 54,000 Euros and above ($60,00 USD). The Swedish VAT rate is 20% and the personal income tax rate above 18,000 krona of 32% ( 0 to 18,000 krona income tax exempt). 18,000 krona equals $2,000 US. Denmark is even worse taxation with regards to personal taxation. German GDP per capita is $44,000 in 2017. Swedish GDP $53,000 in 2017 and the US $59,000 in 2017. Folks you decide who on balance is better off.

narciso said...


https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2019/02/27/30-years-ago-venezuela-exploded/

William Chadwick said...

"He says we need to come together so we can get things done."

Statists always say that as they get ready to pick your pocket. The things they want to get done invariably expand the power of Der Staat.

Drago said...

Inga: "In the meantime Germany and the Scandinavian countries are doing quite well. "

The entire Eurozone is in trouble economically and the Germans have tied themselves even more tightly to Putin's gas imports.

Natural gas is currently used to generate 35%+ energy and that number is growing dramatically.

Putin supplies 90% of the Natural Gas to Germany, with more coming via the NordStream expanded pipeline.

Within a short period of time Putin will have his finger directly on the button that controls upward of 50% of all German energy consumption.

Who knew sucking up to Putin and putting ones nation at Putin's mercy would be considered "doing quite well" by an American lefty Hoax Collusion dupe?

FullMoon said...

“Inga... all hat and no cattle.”

BUMBLE BEE...all ass and no stinger.

Inga.. all piss, no vinegar

wildswan said...

The Democrat field reminds me of Whack a Mole. They pop up, get whacked, sink down, pop up. All look alike except Occasional and Islamic Woman. And Skateboard B. Extra points if you score hits on them. Yet Biden and Saunders are the ones actually leading in polls among potential voters. Why the gap? Is it too soon or too late? No trend emerging? or emerging trend missed by all ? The Millennials are as locked out of the future and of politics as the working class was before Trump. But the workers wanted jobs whereas the Millennials are locked out by student debt, a proxy for unstated wishes - a husband or a wife, children, a full time job, a house, Saturday fun. PCness has alienated them from knowing their own individual wishes while simultaneously telling them that social change can end their kind of alienation. Miss having kids? Save the planet's future instead. Who can speak for such confusion?

Drago said...

Germany and Scandinavia have also done "quite well" for the last 70 years because the US took care of their defense needs so the lefties in the Eurozone could spend more money on their welfare programs.

But under Trump that is changing, and oh how the lefties are squealing like stuck pigs.

"“Sweden’s national defense has been neglected for decades. What has happened is shameful. The budget allocated to the armed forces must reflect needs, operational realities and the requirement to replace outdated equipment. The goal should be to raise spending on defense to 2 percent of GDP, the recommended NATO level, inside 10 years,” said Ulf Kristersson, leader of the Moderates and someone being widely tipped to become Sweden’s next prime minister."

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2018/09/12/new-swedish-government-advocates-for-greater-defense-spending/

Doing "quite well".....

Meanwhile, internally, things like this are happening....

"Sweden stands at abyss as national police chief begs for help
Sweden on brink of civil war, National Police Chief: “Help us, help us!”

"A leaked report concluded that the number of lawless areas (commonly referred to as “no-go zones”) in Sweden now totals 61, up from 55 in just one year’s time. This increase represents not only the total number, but also the geographical size of these areas."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/232603

But hey, its all good in this nation of just 10,000,000 people.....

Drago said...

One of the reasons the EU is fighting so hard against Brexit is that Britain is just one of 2 nations that delivers a surplus of funds to Brussels for redistribution.

Britain is being milked by the Eurozone weenies and having their jobs shipped out of the nation while being forced to essentially maintain open borders and keep taking in the wave after wave of islamic supremacist militants.

But its really about the money.

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