Said Howard Schultz (the Starbucks founder who may run for President as an independent), which was quoted on "Face the Nation" this morning, in a question to John Hickenlooper, whose answer was so dispiriting that I turned off the TV in the middle.
Transcript:
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: I've been-- the point I was making is that we defined people by these labels that- that often have all kinds of associations and baggage with them in that sense. Do I believe in small business? Of course I believe in small business. I started probably more than 20 different small businesses.
That's where I turned it off, judging Hickenlooper to be hopelessly mealymouthed (and he was my first-pick among the current Democratic candidates, but I'd never listened to him
speak before). He continues:
I'd have-- in one year I'd have over a million customers. I understand that. But what's happening-- I think it's kind of a silly question. We should be looking at some of the reasons be- behind why we have less and less start ups.... We should look at some of the reasons why, you know, more and more people aren't wanting to start a business.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure, but you understand it is a main Republican talking point to label Democrats right now as anti-business socialists.
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: Right? But that's ridiculous, obviously there are--
MARGARET BRENNAN: So you would reject that.
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: --the Democratic party is a big tent.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You reject that label.
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: Yes. Absolutely. I think that's not accurate. And I think that, as your interview with Elizabeth Warren showed, there are all kinds of- of- of different people making up the Democratic Party. Do I believe in- in free markets? Do I believe that, you know, you put capital to work to- to create jobs and- and improve your community? You know back when I was a kid, businesses understood the part of their job wasn't just to make as much profit as they could but it was to create the community. Once you get back into these labels, am I a capitalist? Am I a socialist? How much of how much of a capitalist I am I versus how much of a socialist? That becomes kind of silly doesn't it?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well--
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: I mean,
MARGARET BRENNAN: If-
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: In a funny way--
No, it's not funny
at all. You wouldn't say you're a capitalist, then you said you rejected the label "socialist." You don't want to be labeled — it's "silly" and "ridiculous." He needs to speak better than that. He needs a much stronger presence or he's done.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The other candidates were comfortable answering the question so I wanted to offer you a chance to- to answer it. understand you're not comfortable directly answering
GOV.. HICKENLOOPER: I-I--
MARGARET BRENNAN: But I want to move on to some--
GOV HICKENLOOPER: Well I-I'm comfortable. I'm hap--
MARGARET BRENNAN: Go ahead.
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: Let me just- I'm happy to say I'm a capitalist but I think at a certain point the labels do nothing but divide us.
No, you were not happy to say you're a capitalist. You weaseled until Margaret Brennan pushed you to realize you look hopelessly weak. But I had already turned off the TV and thought forget about you. I'm only at this point in the interview because I wanted to write a blog post and I looked up the transcript.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: What I'm trying to build this campaign around, is to say that as a country we've got to stop finding every excuse to divide ourselves--
MARGARET BRENNAN: Point taken.
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: And begin working together because we've got some big issues to make.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Point taken. In terms of your platform. I understand you support universal health care not necessarily Medicaid for all- Medicare for all. You've supported some free trade deals in the past like NAFTA. You've touted your executive experience in a field full of legislators here. You don't like labels but you sound like more of a centrist. How do you keep the Democratic party from splintering further?
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: Well try- if I've tried to avoid this all the labeling that goes on. You know, I mean....
You know, I mean, avoidant is not good. It's low energy.
... I'm running for president because I believe I could beat Donald Trump....
Not with that low-energy, avoidant babbling.
... but I also believe that can bring us together on the other side and begin getting stuff done. And that's one thing I think that I bring to the table is I'm a doer. I'm not someone who's- I mean I'm a dreamer too and I- I believe in big visions....
A doer who's a dreamer, a dreamer of big visions. In his dreams, he beats Donald Trump. Noted.
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That's where I turned it off, judging Hickenlooper to be hopelessly mealymouthed (and he was my first-pick among the current Democratic candidates, but I'd never listened to him speak before).
I know how that works. You read about a governor named Daniels or Pawlenty and think, "Hey, he must be impressive." Then you hear them talk or learn more about them and you aren't so impressed.
The Democrats this time look even more of a "clown car" than the Republicans last time, and who'd have thought that would have been possible? Every week another bad performance - Warren, Harris, Gilibrand, Booker and now Hickenlooper, with embarrassing quotes and stories coming out about Biden and Klobuchar.
If a candidates find it so hard to admit to being capitalists or being for capitalism, does that mean the "moderate lane" is out of commission? Is everybody required to "merge left."
Every day another bad performance - Trump with embarrassing quotes and stories coming out about himself.
Inga is out of ammo again.
All her talking points and links are used up and....as usual....she's lost.
At least until the next set of talking points is delivered to her by her betters.
Here's an interesting aside to all this:
Rod Dreher on the Maoist/Stalinist Cultural Revolution the lefties here have unleashed.
"“A friend in DC told me this week that he was recently at a dinner party where one of the other guests said to him, ‘Growing up in the Soviet Union, my parents taught me never to believe a thing I heard in the media, and to be very careful what I say out loud. Now I find myself telling my children the same thing.’… Those people know how to live. They have wisdom for us. So do others who came through communism. They can help us beat the Cultural Revolution.”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/beating-the-cultural-revolution/
The visionary Dem model in our states:
On the Cusp of Catastrophe, California Has No Margin for Error
"The visionary Dem model in our states:
On the Cusp of Catastrophe, California Has No Margin for Error"
California, home to Typhus outbreaks because, well, why not? And so much human waste on the public sidewalks you can track it with apps.
But it's all good.
And California is not the only lunatic lefty state where things are less fantastico than they ought to be:
"New York City is edging toward financial disaster, experts warn"
"Long-term debt is now more than $81,100 per household, and Mayor de Blasio is ramping up to spend as much as $3 billion more in the new budget than the current $89.2 billion."
https://nypost.com/2019/03/09/new-york-city-is-edging-toward-financial-disaster-experts-warn/
No biggee.
Trump with embarrassing quotes and stories coming out about himself.
And, the long anticipated embarrassing videos and recordings coming out that will cause him to resign(any day now).
I wonder how successful Hickenlooper would have been if he had to pay $15/minimum wage, health insurance benefits and worry about a million IRS regulations.
"Sweden stands at abyss as national police chief begs for help
Sweden on brink of civil war, National Police Chief: “Help us, help us!”
no Borders! no Wall! no Sverige at all!!
Imagine...
In 2018, Swedish Television investigative journalism show Uppdrag Granskning analysed the total of 843 district court cases from the five preceding years and found that 58% of all convicted of rape had a foreign background and 40% were born in the Middle East and Africa, with young men from Afghanistan numbering 45 stood out as being the most next most common country of birth after Sweden. When only analysing rape assault (Swedish: överfallsvåldtäkt) cases, that is cases where perpetrator and victim were not previously acquainted, 97 out of 129 were born outside Europe.[12][27]
Inga...Allie Oop said...
Indeed. America is fully capeable of doing better than any nation on earth and we won’t be seeing a Venezuelan future any time soon no matter what political party is in power.
It took leftists 20 years to destroy Venezuela, as Adam Smith once wrote there's a lot of ruin in a country. No doubt it would take much longer to destroy America but recall the left lectured America that Venezuela was an economic miracle for the first 15 years of its destruction.
By the way all the Scandinavian countries and Germany have rejected the socialist regulation model the American left is seeking to implement. As with Venezuela they drawn by the goal of government primacy: the very idea of freedom drives them nuts.
why are they always defending castro, Ortega, (although he's more of a traditional warlord), and Maduro, if all they care about is social democracy,
https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/08/house-democrats-voting-age-16/
A majority of House Democrats on Wednesday voted to lower the federal voting age from 18 to 16.
A number of high-profile Democrats voted in favor of the legislation, including California Reps. Adam Schiff, Eric Swalwell, Maxine Waters and Ted Lieu, Hawaii Rep. and Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard, New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib and Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar.
House Democrats voted 125-108 in favor of Pressley’s amendment, with two members voting present and three members not voting.
House Republicans voted against the amendment 197-1. Texas Rep. Michael Burgess was the only Republican to vote aye.
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What's up Doc?
yes, I wondered about that:
https://babalublog.com/2019/03/10/fleeing-the-tyranny-of-socialism-to-the-freedom-of-the-u-s-only-to-have-socialism-follow-you-there/
and like clockwork:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/10/eu-prepares-demand-multi-billion-pound-increase-divorce-payment/
Ssween is in no way socialist. It's has a market economy, in some ways more dynamic than America's, until recently.
What is does have its very high rates of taxation. And it works in Sweden, because the government is competent and consensus driven. Things work and services are good. And the population, until recently, was relatively homogenous. Everyone is on the same page. And it's tiny.
America government is none of these things.
Blogger n.n said...
Capitalism is the democratic economic system based on the once novel belief that workers should retain their earnings
The term was actually coined by Marx and the correct term should be "free market" but Capitalism is still most common, The trouble is that crony capitalism, also known as Fascism, is the current policy of Democrats and many GOPe Republicans.
Mussolini called it "Corporatism." and he was correct.
In theory, capitalism is modeled as an organic, dynamic system that reconciles principals, principles, and imperatives to optimize a chaotic fitness function.
These Dem primaries are going to be fun.
Michael K:
Yeah, you're right. I'm willing to make a semantic change. Free market, not capitalism, fine. I'm not married to the latter, and the former is more semantically appealing.
Biden may lead in polls but he's no alternative to Trump. I could never vote for him under any circumstances because of his role in ruining the SCOTUS nomination process: he invented "Borking."
Of all the Trump alternatives, Howard Schultz is the only one with 'crossover appeal." Crossover appeal is what got Trump elected. All of the female D candidates are giving the finger to crossover appeal and some of them even foster race baiting. In that sense, they are damaging the American political landscape by accelerating polarization.
The point is these socialist fanboys have no idea what it’s like to live within that system. Why should anyone take them seriously? They haven’t lived in Cuba, Venezuela, or Russia.
We should require direct experience from people making these wholesale change arguments. Without that, it’s all BS.
Is it fair to say that the Democrat Party now openly endorses the most failed and murderous economic philosophy in history, and disavows itself from the only one that has raised millions from poverty, class, racial, and gender discrimination, while creating the greatest advances in human history, which socialist nations have mostly had to steal to enjoy themselves?
What is truely sad is that the American people will actually have a tough time choosing between the two. Thank you, educators. Well done.
In 223 comments the name "Inga" appears 57 times (as of this writing). I have learned to scan ("find in page") the comments for her name before bothering to read through the thread. I'm sure there are comments that would inform me, but its not worth slogging through the bile she inflicts on this blog.
walter - young people are massively stupid and the D's are massively desperate for illegals and young stupid people to vote for the left's fascism.
What is the logical argument for lowering the voting age to 16 years old but, but not 11 years old?
I want a counter amendment that raises the voting age to 21, (still too young) and demands passage of a basic civics test prior to the privilege of voting.
Sadly, whenever the R's are in power, they never find or use urgency.
I knew the Trump-Hitlery 2016 would be bad. This crap is now what we face as payback.
I hate our political class. Only a small handful are actually worthy of faint praise.
(Cruz and Rand to name a few)
Perhaps Gowdy - but he lost his spine.
No Gowdy proved to be all bark and now bite:
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/03/10/report-merkel-govt-may-have-let-in-thousands-of-war-criminal-migrants/?fbclid=IwAR2NaCNbf6q6b2gpQpeyGoAFPAwz9qFz9R9G-BqNCIDDXgZVUVMwV0Y7TN4
Texas Rep. Michael Burgess' reasoning:
"Those who pay taxes should have a voice in our Democracy."
https://twitter.com/michaelcburgess?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Bring on the 14 yr old constituency:
"The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets wage, hours worked, and safety requirements for minors (individuals under age 18) working in jobs covered by the statute. The rules vary depending upon the particular age of the minor and the particular job involved. As a general rule, the FLSA sets 14 years of age as the minimum age for employment, and limits the number of hours worked by minors under the age of 16."
https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/youthlabor/agerequirements
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AOC at SXSW (03/09):
-People should be “excited” about “being automated out of work”
-“We live in a society where if you don’t have a job you are left to die and that is at its core a problem”
-Supports taxing corporations at 90%
-The world is “approaching infinite resources”
Here's the key to understanding so called liberals: The person who most clearly reflects left institutional beliefs wants to destroy our economy and liberals want to talk about non-disclosure agreements with porn stars. Is there any conclusion to draw other than that they are playing a role? Could anyone honestly conclude sex NDAs should be our priority? Even after the "it's just sex" excuse with Clinton's lies?
Texas Rep. Michael Burgess' reasoning: "Those who pay taxes should have a voice in our Democracy."
All those who pay sales tax (including children and illegals) do have a voice in Democracy: They help decide what the market bears. Those who pay little to no Federal tax should have little to no voice in Federal elections. Those who pay little to no State tax should have little to no voice in State elections.
Even young children pay sales taxes, and taxes taken from the breadwinners in family are taken from that whole family. Everybody pays taxes directly or indirectly, even the unborn. Voting age could be reduced to the first trimester.
Then again almost half the country pays no effective tax. I would personally love a system that limits voting to just those who effectively pay their share of taxes (less than half the country). Paying your fair share is paying tax equivalent to the total of all personal taxes collected divided by the population.
I would personally love a system that limits voting to just those who effectively pay their share of taxes (less than half the country).
Neville Shute, in his novel "In the Wet" proposed a fractional voting system based on taxes but also military service plus property ownership.
Kamala Harris explained the one simple step needed to make socialism work: change human nature. But that’s okay, because according to Harris, we “know” that human nature is “easy to change.” There are no delusions quite like the self-delusions of a Democrat politician.
Big Mike said...
Kamala Harris explained the one simple step needed to make socialism work: change human nature. But that’s okay, because according to Harris, we “know” that human nature is “easy to change.”
Kamala-Supporter-of-Socialism needs explain what she means by saying "easy to change" since she put thousands in prison for their behavior. If behavior is "easy to change", she should have changed it rather than letting crime rage on and putting people in crowded basty prisons for avoidable conduct.
But, maybe, she would say that new research, not available to her when she was the DA has shown that behavior is easy to change.
New research by a certain group of behavior geneticists suggests that human behavior is genetically based but changeable because genetics causes behavior differences by chemical differences. Change the chemistry and bam!, "nature" changes. In short, drugs. This type of "behavior change" is the new eugenics I'm always bringing up. Socialism of an American or national type and eugenics, national socialism and eugenics, hmmm, will that really be easy? Is that what she means?
Sanders is a very appropriate leader for the Democrats. He's managed to get wealthy without ever having a real job, got kicked out of a commune for being too lazy, even for a bunch of hippies, and never accomplished anything during his long career in politics, yet he decries the success of people who built things and worked hard to get what they have . He is the prototypical socialist leader like Maduro, Castro, and every other one of the totalitarian assholes. He's central casting's Democrat leader. The only thing missing is he didn't sleep with the right people to get his advantages, but that wasn't really an option for him. Instead, he used his political position to provide the happy endings.
Don't forget that diplomacy trip with his new wife to the Soviet Union...
@wildswan, I meant those as scare quotes. The precise quote is:
"It is a fact that we can change human behaviors without much change to our lifestyle and we can save the future generations of our country and this world."
What about letting every legally married father - not mother - cast extra votes for everyone of his kids under 18?
Now, the "children" have a "voice" in our Democracy.
Paywalled, but you get the gist without even having to read the entire article.
How Sweden overcame socialism.
bagoh20 said...
Then again almost half the country pays no effective tax. I would personally love a system that limits voting to just those who effectively pay their share of taxes (less than half the country).
I've got an easier to implement idea.
If you were to have a system where, at the polling place, you could either vote, or receive a crisp, brand-new $10 bill, you would never see another Democrat elected.
In 2016, Bernie was the crazy left-wing uncle. Now, he's just another Democrat. I thought no one could be more cynical about Democrats then me. But their behavior since November 2016, has shocked even me.
As shown by their behavior in California, the Liberals/Democrats NEVER Give up. Even ONE Republican Congressional or State Assembly seat is too much for them, and they will continue to change the election/voting laws to their advantage. They never relent, they never moderate, they just get crazier and more left-wing.
For the rest of the USA: Coming attractions.
I think he might affect the 2020 Presidential election significantly.
I've actually met Howard Schulz. Our son's went to University Prep together, and overlapped in Spanish class. My son hung-out with Jordan Schulz in the gated Madison Park community more than once.
Mr. Schulz would attend parent-teacher meetings. He is definitely a leader, and a force in the room. I was impressed with his intelligence. He always expressed himself well.
I do not believe that Schulz can suck-the-air-out-of-the-tent on a national level like Trump, but he might be the next Ross Perot......and I have no idea how that will resolve.
When I registered to vote in SC in 1979, the form had this whole section where you had to read part of the state Constitution and answer questions about it. I was like, oh geeze, I only budgeted 15 minutes to do this and now I'm going to be here an hour. The guy clarified: Just sign your name and took the form.
I later figured out that was one of the literacy tests that was invalidated by the Supreme Court but hadn't yet been taken off the forms.
Kamala Harris explained the one simple step needed to make socialism work: change human nature. But that’s okay, because according to Harris, we “know” that human nature is “easy to change.”
I am astounded at Harris' level of ignorance.
Is this not the worst political class in recent decades?
It's "big (circus) tent".
And they must be allowed to fail to, or at least be allowed to see how far they can game the system through shady voting practices.
Part of the game here, which no one seems to have caught on to, is to flood blue sanctuary states with as many illegal aliens as possible prior to the census being taken, in order to gain house seats and electoral votes in the next 10 years worth of elections. Which is why lefties fought so hard (and failed) to get the citizenship question removed from the census questionnaire.
"“Given the current state of Venezuela, I think all candidates thinking that that’s a great system should be required to go live there for few months, at least. Then come back and try and convince us it’s great and fair and just.”
In the meantime Germany and the Scandinavian countries are doing quite well."
News flash, Inga. Germany and the Scandinavian countries are capitalist societies with market economies. Capitalism is what pays for the generous welfare payments that attract the third world refugees. If they had socialist, command economies with the means of production owned and/or run by the state as does Venezuela, their economic situation would be no different than that of Venezuela. Or Cuba. Or North Korea. Or the Soviet Union. Or Mao's Red China. Or Lon Nol's Cambodia. Or Mayanmar. Or any other socialist paradise. It happens every time. Every fucking time.
The stream of raw ignorance that comes out of your mouth is remarkable.
"There's no need to stick a fork in him; or even to look at the little red thing sticking out of him. He was done before he was opened; He was precooked"
Hickenlooper - the other white meat.
Do I believe in small business? Of course I believe in small business.
So he’s distinguishing himself from his Dem colleagues by not being a small business denier?
bagoh20 said...
What is the logical argument for lowering the voting age to 16 years old but, but not 11 years old?
What's the logical argument for lowering the voting age to 16, but making smoking and vaping illegal anti 18 or 21, and drinking illegal until 21?
Tommy Duncan, Killfile is your friend.
Does Igna know this thread is about John Hickenlooper?
He even won many awards because of his success working in the position of team leader and with the capability to handle different projects working with experts in their respective fields. He has also succeeded in establishing leading family businesses and he implements the technology in a creative aspect of developing environmental and sustainable projects with a clear vision to save our planet Earth from any further degradation.
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