March 5, 2019

Axelrod isn't quite saying it's a witch hunt, but it too easily plays into the "witch-hunt" meme.


It's hard to think what anything really is or isn't anymore. It feels much better/smarter/safer to speak about whether things fit into memes. Or really not even that. It's more a matter of whether something can be used by somebody else to further their memes.

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rhhardin said...

#MeMeToo

Unknown said...

Dems want 10 years of tax returns.

rhhardin said...

The problem is always what will soap opera women think. It's not about memes but which narrative interests them. That's what they will play on TV.

It's always hard to judge what story idea will be a hit, which is what you need to sell eyeballs to advertisers.

Lucid-Ideas said...

You can't call this witch hunt and witch hunt! That too easily identifies it as a witch hunt! You have to disguise the witch hunt as something that witch hunts are not! This is an anti-witch hunt witch hunt! See? None now dare call it a witch hunt!

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

snakey. There is a risk to the left going full McCarthy.

Meanwhile- Covington Lawyers not backing down to the assholes who write for the corrupt democratic party of record.

Lin Wood tweets.
"Washington Post “deletes” false tweet & immediately reposts it. The act of an arrogant, non-contrite bully. Media bully learns no lesson until it pays for damage, unequivocally admits wrongdoing & pledges to never again bully & falsely attack child without proper investigation."

gilbar said...

Of course, the Only Reason the wide-ranging nature of it too easily plays into the “witch-hunt” meme;
is because it's A WITCH HUNT!

rhhardin said...

Tax returns are confidential. The way it got past self-incrimination was that the IRS would never release the returns to anybody, so you have to report illegal income lest they get you on a tax conviction.

If it's not confidential any longer, then nobody has to file taxes.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

I want Nancy's tax returns. She is, after all, we've been told, the real president.

tcrosse said...

When is a witch hunt not a witch hunt? When it's a fishing expedition.

Hagar said...

I am also wondering about the cost to the entities served with the request for "any and all documents" referring to such a wide-ranging list of loosely defined subjects. Is it allowable in law to saddle them with that? If so, it seems indeed to smack of "the power to destroy."

Not to mention the power to indict for "failure to comply." It seems there could be a range of opinions other than Jerrold Nadler's as to whether any particular piece of paper was pertinent or not.

rehajm said...

It's hard to think what anything really is or isn't anymore

I think we all know what things is or isn’t. The hard part is when what things is or isn’t doesn’t match what we want them to be.

Sebastian said...

"It's hard to think what anything really is or isn't anymore."

Why? Things are getting clearer by the day: the culture war proceeds, progs fight by any means necessary.

"It feels much better/smarter/safer to speak about whether things fit into memes."

Ah, the meme meme. Progs aren't really trying to scorch the earth and seize power, you know, they are just pushing memes.

rehajm said...

Dems just shredded shit so they didn’t have to comply. Do that.

Seeing Red said...

Axelrod is trying to walk them back?

chuck said...

It's a Democrat party power grab. Witchhunt is just a description of means, not intent.

Trumpit said...

Trump should be treated fairly in contrast to how badly he's treated others.
If he conspired to rig the erection in his favor, Hillary should be made president. Isn't that what justice demands?

BamaBadgOR said...

Can't wait for civil libertarians to come to the defense of the individuals caught up in this abuse of power. Oh wait.

This does not rise to the level of a witch hunt. It is worse.

Achilles said...

It is not a witch hunt.

It is a Stalinist power grab.

The leftists will never stop now that they are out in the open and soap opera women like Ann are desperate to vote for them. Ignorant people who think we can actually implement the Green Leap Forwardx without mass starvation and death want to put them back in charge so we can end up like Venezuela.

The difference is the US feeds the world. If they succeed here billions will die.

They think a hickenoooper or Klobuchar will be “normal.” It is stupid. The people who control the leftists are losing power all over the world and they will stop at nothing to retain and reclaim what they are losing.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Trumpit - do explain how a conspiracy would work if vote tampering never occurred...

Did the Russians trick our poor brains into not falling in line behind corrupt Hillary?

Drago said...

Unknown: "Dems want 10 years of tax returns."

And then 15.

And then 20.

And then 25.

And then 30.

And then 35.

...............






Mountain Maven said...

Axelrod wants to call it a witch hunt but he doesn't want to lose all his friends either.

Seeing Red said...

If he conspired to rig the erection in his favor, Hillary should be made president. Isn't that what justice demands?


That’s overturning the results of the election and we can’t have that! Lolololol

Bob Boyd said...

"These things must be done delicately." - the Wicked Witch of the West

Drago said...

Seeing Red: "Axelrod is trying to walk them back?"

Yes, as is Mark Penn.

Both Penn and Axelrod are clearer-eyed students of electoral and political history as well as steategic campaigners.

Unfortunately the far left/LLR's are feeling the rush of abuse of power and you arent getting that genie back into the bottle.

Ever.

The revolution..and counter-revolution, will be "phone-cammed".

Seeing Red said...

It seems “to get along” we have to shred it all, retired Constitution professor.

Henry said...

Centrist Democrats are marking the quicksand.

walter said...

They could frame this as 'wich-curious.

MikeR said...

https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/1102961065036410882
"What a crazy world #realDonaldTrump has created"
Someone has.

JAORE said...

Buy shares in Bleach Bit!

tim maguire said...

Keep checking off boxes on the Witch Hunt checklist and it's only a matter time before Republicans Pounce! and claim it's a witch hunt.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Trump is driving us crazy.
Trump drove streteched clown face Kathy G over the edge. Trump drove her crazy.
How did Trump beat wonderful Hillary?
The Russians did it!

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Meh, everyone has something to say. Democrats are conducting investigations into matters that are of great import for the good of the Country, Presidents don’t get a pass. No bogus “Benghazi!” type investigations.

Achilles said...

I think we should apply the New Democrat standard to every federal official both elected and permanent employees.

Fuck these people. This is the party of Timothy Geitner. Alcee Hastings.Ocasio Cortez whose campaign has already been caught pocketing over a million dollars before she even took office. Menendez. I want to see 10 years of Clinton’s tax returns including the foundation.

Anyone who votes for Democrats is knowingly voting for an end to the rule of law.

I will never respect a government run by Democrats or globalist Republicans like Romney or Bush again. They have no right to rule.

We haven’t even gotten to gun grabbing yet like they are trying to pull in Maryland, Colorado Washington etc.

The masks are off and there are no excuses for voting for Democrats anymore. No decent person could vote for what they see.

stevew said...

Large, wide-ranging, omnibus document demands fit very nicely with my definition of witch hunt. Though I think "Stalinist power grab" is more accurate.

Achilles said...

Inga...Allie Oop said...
Meh, everyone has something to say. Democrats are conducting investigations into matters that are of great import for the good of the Country, Presidents don’t get a pass. No bogus “Benghazi!” type investigations.

Was the attack on Benghazi caused by a video?

Did Democrats throw an American citizen in jail to cover up their lies?

Oh course Inga supports that. She and her political movement have all sorts of citizens they want to throw in jail.

Of course Inga has to refer to Benghazi. She can see how despicable and disgusting Clinton and Obama were handling Libya. But that is ok because Democrat.

Nonapod said...

It's not just lawfare, it's the ForeverWar. Trump must be attacked and attacked and attacked endlessly. Anyone associated with him must be examined closely, they must be questioned, and if anything even remotely untoward is discovered, they too must be destroyed, bankrupted, their homes must be raided, they need to be dragged out in their pajamas in front of cameras.

I don't think the various congressional Dems, the media, and the Deep Staters have any notion of how it all looks of course. They're too ensconced in their bubbles for any sort of external information to penetrate. They believe that most Americans must be as deeply concerned as they are. They reinforce each others beliefs and perceptions and shut out anything that contradicts them.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Oh course Inga supports that. She and her political movement have all sorts of citizens they want to throw in jail.

Of course Inga has to refer to Benghazi. She can see how despicable and disgusting Clinton and Obama were handling Libya. But that is ok because Democrat.”
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“But here's something I need you to do...DON'T NAME ANOTHER COMMENTER WHEN YOU'RE DISAGREEING WITH HIM... It looks like a pointless, childish game. If you seriously want to argue on the substance, quote the person and disagree with the material posted. Don't make it about the person.”
Ann Althouse

Hopefully everyone is being held to this standard.

CWJ said...

"No bogus “Benghazi!” type investigations."

Oh my lord. In Ingaworld investigating something real, something that actually happened, is bogus. Investigating a pure speculation to see if anything actually happened is more legitimate.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“In Ingaworld investigating something real, something that actually happened, is bogus. Investigating a pure speculation to see if anything actually happened is more legitimate.”


“But here's something I need you to do...DON'T NAME ANOTHER COMMENTER WHEN YOU'RE DISAGREEING WITH HIM... It looks like a pointless, childish game. If you seriously want to argue on the substance, quote the person and disagree with the material posted. Don't make it about the person.”
Ann Althouse

Hopefully everyone is being held to this standard.

Shouting Thomas said...

So, the Democrats are implicitly admitting that Russia collusion was a hoax that produced nothing.

On to the process charge for the non-existent offense.

Seeing Red said...

Was the attack on Benghazi caused by a video?

According to Inga it was. She believed Hillary.

Amadeus 48 said...

Heh. The Obama administration wrote a book on ignoring Congress.

Nadler needs facts! He knows what he thinks. Now he needs facts! Get him some facts!

Axelrod, whose genius is strategy, is advising on tactics. David, it plays into the witch hunt meme because it is a witch hunt. Let President Trump get back to work for the American people.

Which witches are being hunted in this witch hunt, which is spelling trouble for Democrats and charming Republicans? I'll see your Alyssa Milano and raise you a Shannen Doherty. Rose Mcgowans are wild!

Achilles said...

Inga,

You have no standards. You keep posting the same stupid civility bullshit. You have been calling us racist, extremist, crazy and whatever for years. Now we are giving it back to you.

You are a stalinist.

We are going to keep pointing out that you are beyond hypocrisy.

The only use you have for the rule of law is to gain and maintain power. The number of rapists, racists, and obvious criminals you support is truly impressive and you want congress to dig through Trump's tax returns.

CWJ said...

I Did address your comment.

walter said...

...a sort of Stop and Frisk..

jack said...

David Axelrod

Verified account

@davidaxelrod
3h3 hours ago
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“I think the world of Bob Mueller. He is a very deliberate guy. But he's also a class act. And a very justice-oriented person.”
Ty Cobb, former WH lawyer, rejecting the @realDonaldTrump “witch hunt” meme.

Howard said...

There are no standards on this blog, Inga. The inmates took over a decade ago and Ann got religion last week and tried to stop a tidal wave. She must have realized "I am become deplorable enabler"... but it too late, that ship has sailed and now closing the barn door after the horse bolted has not staunched the flow of the tsunami of vituperative snipe.

Shouting Thomas said...

Yes, Inga is a commie Stalinist.

Howard said...

More like a treasure hunt.

Shouting Thomas said...

@Howard.

You've trumped your own standards for incoherence and stupidity with that comment.

Wanna try again to say something that can be sorted out?

How can a person as dumb as you not know it?

Mike Sylwester said...

In the Salem witch-hunts, the primary accusers were girls who claimed that they saw so-called "spectra", such as imps or black cats, which nobody else could see.

In the RussiaGate witch-hunts, the primary accuser was Christopher Steele, who claimed that he had received secret information Russian Intelligence insiders, whom nobody else could see.

In this new round of witch-hunts, the primary accuser is Michael Cohen, who claims to sense the existence of corruption evidence that nobody else has seen.

=======

These new witch-hunts will be limited by the fact that Hillary Clinton was not elected. If she were the US President, these witch-hunts would be much worse.

One of Clinton's methods was to claim that all of the USA's 17 Intelligence agencies agreed with her malicious fantasies about her political opponents. If she were President now, she often would be declaring publicly that all 17 Intelligence agencies agreed that this Republican staffer is a Russian spy and that this other Republican Facebook advertiser is undermining Democracy on Putin's orders and that this other Republican donor is helping Russian exchange students sexually compromise supporters of the National Rifle Association -- and so forth and so on.

If Clinton were President, she would be using "all 17 Intelligence agencies" to instigate witch-hunts against her political enemies all the time.

Tommy Duncan said...

Their obsession with bringing down Trump has them sifting through the sands of the Sahara. Hang on, this may take a while.

Shouting Thomas said...

There is, by the way, a standard on this blog... a very admirable standard.

Free speech.

And it's takes a lot of abuse for Althouse to bar people.

iowan2 said...

Meh, everyone has something to say. Democrats are conducting investigations into matters that are of great import for the good of the Country, Presidents don’t get a pass. No bogus “Benghazi!” type investigations.

Just saw a clip a Nadler. He says all of the people and documents asked for have already talked to Mueller or SDNY. (but they won't advance anything because there is nothing)

The Democrats know.(leaks from Mueller) that there is no criminal activity. Now all they want is information they can leak out, in out of context snippets. All in a stupid attempt to drive down President Trump's approval ratings. (the same or higher that Obama's now)

Nadler in an interview yesterday explained that they were not yet to impeachment, first he has to convince the voters of President Trumps unfitness. The Democrats our honest about their motives. Harm President Trumps poll numbers...because there is nothing else to do.

daskol said...

Per buwaya, I think some kind of memo must have gone out recently on the optics of these investigations. This morning on CNN, they were pushing a Dem Congressman from CA to opine on why his CA colleague, was wrong about how all these document requests were indicators of a fishing expedition and a lack of confidence that Mueller would turn up anything. That's how they put it: explain why this is not what the GOP guy characterizes it as, please. Best this Congressman could do was resort to pabulum about how, as a member of the Judiciary Committee and Congress, their role is oversight. Oversight is good, so how can more oversight be bad? It's oversight, dammit, that's what we're there to do--oversee. What's the matter with more sunlight? We're spreading sunshine. Not very convincing to me, but it seemed to satisfy Alyson Camerota, who moved on once she got the response she had set the question up for.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

"If he conspired to rig the erection in his favor, Hillary should be made president."

A typo of Trumpian delectitude.

Laslo Spatula said...

"...that ship has sailed and now closing the barn door after the horse bolted has not staunched the flow of the tsunami of vituperative snipe...."

I got a little bit lost here: I get that the ship has sailed into the tsunami, but is the barn on the ship?

I am Laslo.

Inga...Allie Oop said...
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Inga...Allie Oop said...

“There are no standards on this blog, Inga. The inmates took over a decade ago and Ann got religion last week and tried to stop a tidal wave. She must have realized "I am become deplorable enabler"... but it too late, that ship has sailed and now closing the barn door after the horse bolted has not staunched the flow of the tsunami of vituperative snipe.”

Seems like Althouse wants us all to behave in a certain way ( I don’t blame her) some of us have been doing so (at least for the last 36 hours) but when others are allowed to continue to do the opposite of what she has asked us to do and are not either deleted or chastised, it makes Althouse’s requests toothless and weak. It’s not fair to allow a certain set of people to spit in her eye, while lowering the boom on others. It’s not encouraging others to honor her wishes.

Seeing Red said...

It’s hilarious the masks are off and the vile Progs are acting as they have for the last 100 years and it’s the Republicans pouncing pointing out the obvious that’s at fault.

Full Venezuela here we come and it’ll be the conservatives fault for not stopping it.

Shouting Thomas said...

Remember, Inga, when it seemed like changing the Senate rules on SCOTUS nominations was a free ride with no payback for Democrats?

You might want to factor that lesson into the events we speak of today.

This shit will come back to bite you in the ass.

Achilles said...

Everyone in DC needs to be given the Manafort/Flynn/Cohen treatment.

Everyone in DC broke these same laws. Manafort was working for the Podestas when he committed the crimes he is going to jail for. They should be going to jail too.

I doubt there is anyone in DC that would survive the Flynn treatment.

Did Mueller file all his paperwork when he was working for the Ukranians? I bet not.

It is time to clean DC up.

Mac McConnell said...

Joseph McCarthy seems to have been reincarnated into the body of Adam Shiff. Hell make that all the House Dems. It should be legal to throw dog feces at Dems who say the word "McCarthyism" ever again.

Fernandistein said...

"If he conspired to rig the erection in his favor, Hillary should be made president."

You can overturn the results of a erection with an abortion.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Good!

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/adam-schiff-hires-a-former-prosecutor-to-lead-the-trump-investigation

“Representative Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, has hired a veteran prosecutor with experience fighting Russian organized crime to lead his investigation of the Trump Administration. Last month, according to a committee source, Daniel Goldman, who served as an Assistant United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York from 2007 to 2017, joined the committee’s staff as a senior adviser and the director of investigations.”

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

Everybody gets your transparent schtick, Inga. The disadvantage you labor under is that the competition is far more intelligent than you. I'm not judging. Just the way God made you.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Benghazi was real and actual lies=, iineptitude and incompetence - that got people killed. A cover up perpetrated by Obama's flunkies, including the Hillary and Susan Rise. And a lie that was pushed without questions by the D-hack press.

It was not a riot based on a video. That was a total. lie.

But lying is OK- if you're on the left.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

The karmic justice is that Hillary's corrupt illegal private Server was found out.

Fuck HER and fuck the left.

Shouting Thomas said...

As I said, the Russia collusion hoax obviously produced nothing to use against Trump.

Democrats have now admitted that.

They've moved on to trying to manufacturing a process crime over a non-existent offense.

Trump has won. Completely.

Rick said...

I'm amused Inga is criticizing people because they are responding to the troll - who just happens to be her. Someone smarter would probably refrain from supporting an argument which includes that she's a trill but the opportunity to criticize others cannot be passed up.

Meanwhile investigations into Americans dying are "fake" because deaths don't matter unless they can be blamed on Trump. Real investigations cover whether someone pissed on a bed Obama once slept in.

Left wing priorities explained.

Seeing Red said...

It’s kind of like that kind, compassionate woman in Texas a few years ago who voted for every local tax increase but Texas’s Congress had to do something! Because she couldn’t afford to stay in her abode. She even recognized she voted for all the increases, but....she wanted a pass on her stupidity.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Inga is excited about leftwing Stalinist tactics.

Mike Sylwester said...

One lesson that the Democrat Party learned during the 2016 election is that an expensive opposition-research effort might backfire disastrously. For example, the Party paid a lot of money to Fusion GPS to concoct a "dossier" proving that Donald Trump was colluding with Vladimir Putin.

Instead of spending its own money on opposition research, the Democrats now are using the Congressional committees that they control. All of the expenses are paid by the taxpayers, and the dirt-digging enjoys a plausible appearance of legitimacy.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Trump won.

Hillary lost.

Fuck you.

And Adam Schiff needs to be investigated for fraud and corruption of his own.

traditionalguy said...

That’s not a witch hunt. But 82324 sealed Federal indictments ( not counting the Northern District of Georgia), now that’s a witch hunt that Trump’s Team has going, and this will not be catch and the release witches. Stay tuned.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-white-house-lawyer-calls-mueller-american-hero/story?id=61455661

Ty Cobb, the veteran Washington attorney who represented the White House as special counsel Robert Mueller ramped up his investigation into Russian meddling, said he considers the man leading the probe “an American hero” and does not share President Donald Trump’s view that the Russia inquiry is a politically motivated hoax.

“I don't feel the same way about Mueller,” Cobb said in an extensive interview for the latest episode of ABC News' podcast The Investigation. “I don't feel the investigation is a witch hunt.”

Seeing Red said...

BTW, if you want to get along, this isn’t the way to do it. Even with everything that’s being thrown at Trump, he’s still getting things done.

That’s admirable.

Howard said...

The bottom line is Ann can do what she wants. It's part of the entertainment factor when she trys (female privilege) controlling the commentators whom as Shouting Thomas points out is used to the standard of free speech.

Seeing Red said...

CYA mode because there’s no there there.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

I thought Mueller was god?

Where is his report? Why can't we see it?

Achilles said...

Howard said...
There are no standards on this blog, Inga. The inmates took over a decade ago and Ann got religion last week and tried to stop a tidal wave. She must have realized "I am become deplorable enabler"... but it too late, that ship has sailed and now closing the barn door after the horse bolted has not staunched the flow of the tsunami of vituperative snipe.

No.

We used to sit back and take the leftists vile shit for years. You have been calling every republican presidential candidate literally hitler for years. You have called all republicans racist and nazis for years. DC uniparty pols in both parties sent the IRS after us.

Inga has intimated on several occasions my family needs to fear me because I am crazy and going to shoot them all.

Chuck has threatened physical real world violence on me. Stupidly but all the same.

The number of times I have been called racist is uncountable.

No more. You and Inga and the rest of the degenerate leftists are just having your hypocrisy and bullshit shoved back in your face.

You are supporting a party of criminals. You support Stalinism.

Be proud of it.

Seeing Red said...

This is like a condensed version of the global warming bs.

It was GW GW when that didn’t work

It was MMGW MMGW

When that didn’t work AGW AGW

When that didn’t work

Climate change

Or Climate Denier!

Except that that one of the stupidest arguments slogans I’ve ever hears since the climate has always changed.

Howard said...

Minor league highly leveraged mini-mogal and petite-dictator Donald Trump is struggling to survive Bigly Hardball and his minions cry foul. This only further cauterizes the bonds with the long con. Some democrats want a more slow boil yet others are impatient to stop the national security intel bleeding.

gilbar said...

tcrosse said... When is a witch hunt not a witch hunt? When it's a fishing expedition.

Well said tcrosse!

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“I'm amused Inga is criticizing people because they are responding to the troll - who just happens to be her. Someone smarter would probably refrain from supporting an argument which includes that she's a trill but the opportunity to criticize others cannot be passed up.”

I know of a strange troll who is obsessed with The Handmaid’s Tale and with a certain commenter. This troll brings it up even years later, as if he’s making a point.

Shouting Thomas said...

Who’s crying foul?

Russian collusion is dead.

Trump has triumphed completely.

EDH said...

David Axelrod said...
Maybe I’m missing something, but the hazard of an omnibus document demand by House judiciary versus discreet, serial ones is that, however legitimate the areas of inquiry, the wide-ranging nature of it is too easily plays into the “witch-hunt” meme.

Doesn't it sound like Axelrod's is urging investigative portion control on Nadler who is likely sublimating his voracious appetite?

Here's a NYT article that reads like a Johnny Carson/Ed McMahon "how fat is he joke".

Nadler, as a Last Resort, Sheds Weight by Surgery, Nov. 16, 2002

Now, after decades of health-threatening obesity and futile dieting, Mr. Nadler has taken a more aggressive course: During the Congressional recess in early August, he underwent stomach-reduction surgery at Mount Sinai Hospital in Manhattan...

If the usual rigors of serving in Congress were not enough, Representative Jerrold Nadler, a Manhattan Democrat, struggled for years with the personal torment of being... [How obese is he!?] so overweight that he could not make it up even a single flight of stairs to the second floor of the Capitol to vote on the House floor. He used the elevator instead.

Mr. Nadler peaked at 338 pounds before the surgery, whereas Mr. Roker peaked at 320 pounds. But Mr. Roker is 5 feet, 8 inches tall, while Mr. Nadler is 5-foot-4. [How obese is he!?] Mr. Nadler was so obese that he long ago gave up riding the subway in New York to avoid the tiring climb up and down the steps.

Mr. Nadler, an influential New York politician who became known nationally for his staunch defense of President Clinton, said he took this radical step after realizing that his life depended on it.

Narayanan Subramanian said...

What happens if Trump claims Transgender? With wink wink to base.

Narayanan Subramanian said...

Dress or pantsuit?

Big Mike said...

It's pretty simple, really. It looks like a witch hunt because it is a witch hunt. Yesterday Althouse asked "If it's really so bad to run on the Green New Deal, why are Trump and McConnell taunting them about it now? That's a good question, but I think that the answer is that Republicans find it advantageous to paint the Democrats as being profoundly uninterested in governance. They want to have show trials and chase rainbows like eliminating cow farts and air travel in the next ten years (and if Mazie Hirono can't get back to her constituents during Senate recesses, well that's Just. Too. Bad.)

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Adam Schiff is a criminal. He must be investigated.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Inga has intimated on several occasions my family needs to fear me because I am crazy and going to shoot them all.”

As based on your strange behavior here. Normal people don’t talk about getting their “veteran buddies together for wetwork” against the nation’s liberals. Normal people don’t call for civil war. Normal people don’t get pulled into outlandish consiracy theories.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...
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Shouting Thomas said...

Going after Trump on Mafia relationships is a can of worms you don’t want to get into.

My old law firm built a tower in Manhattan. They had to deal with the Mafia because it controls garbage collection and several of the building trades.

I imagine the same is true in Moscow, where Trump was negotiating to build a hotel.

Nothing gets built in Manhattan without giving the Mafia their cut. You really want to go here? Democrats run NYC.

Big Mike said...

@Inky, the real Ty Cobb died in 1961. Duh.

Howard said...

Thanks Achilles for proving my point. You essentially are saying you people took it up the ass for decades without complaint, but now you still buggered, but scream like a stuck pig. Too little too late. Trump is the last dying gasp of a generational term-limited philosophy that failed on it's own merits in the free market by the invisible hand.

stevew said...

And yet another nicely begun thread has become boring.

Brian said...

“I don't feel the same way about Mueller,” Cobb said in an extensive interview for the latest episode of ABC News' podcast The Investigation. “I don't feel the investigation is a witch hunt.”

He wants to preserve attorney client privilege for his clients, so he can't afford to have his office raided like Cohen's. Best to be nice to the guy that likes to use the FBI for raids.

Jim Harvey said...

What fits into the various anti-Trump memes is the the dogged resistance to giving up an inch of information. Stone-walling for years while the indictments pile up. Almost like there is something to hide.

Robert Cook said...

Well, of course it's a witch hunt. I mean, Trump may very well be guilty of crimes--I'd be surprised if he were not--but there should have been evidence of crimes such that an investigation was a rational response. Instead, immediately upon taking office Trump was assailed with immediate accusations of colluding with Russia (and God knows what else, as I don't pay attention to it all),simply because Hillary (and her supporters had a hissy fit she had not won. "It couldn't be! It' simply couldn't be! There must be a crime!"

Everything since has been a concerted effort just to find something to charge him with. It is the undoing of the peaceful transfer of power.

tcrosse said...

Trump has stayed one step ahead of the Sheriff for decades, in a very tough environment. He has little to fear from these congressional pipsqueaks. It is not his first time at the rodeo (to continue the metaphor).

Shouting Thomas said...

@Howard.

Please stop saying nothing in elaborate, lengthy prose.

If you’re going to comment here, can you at least say something substantive?

Howard said...

Blogger Shouting Thomas said...

Going after Trump on Mafia relationships is a can of worms you don’t want to get into.


Good point because democrat blow-back. However, for the AOC young Turks, it could be a feature for eliminating old-school establishment competition

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rehajm said...

Dems want 10 years of tax returns.

They won't understand them if they got them.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Robert Cook @11:36

Thank you.

Howard said...

Thomas: I thought you like free speech. You are just can't help yourself by attempting to be controlling what others say, just like a feminazi you love to hate.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

The Democratic party is the REAL mob.

Henry said...

@Robert Cook -- Totally agree. I would add that the waiting on tenterhooks attitude toward these investigation is neurotic and counterproductive. There are better ways to be an opposition party.

Mike said...

No bogus “Benghazi!” type investigations.

Boy there is a wealth of stupid in that one post. “Benghazi” is a place and refers to a real event, an event for which there are real unanswered questions after all this time. It also refers to the investigation, which is an excellent illustration of Democrat perfidy. The D members of the various committees did all they could to obstruct the investigation and the Obama admin lied and hid documents all the way through. The fact State kept returning requests for Hillary’s emails with “404 none found” led to the whole separate investigation into how exactly DUD Hillary communicate.

Yet we still don’t know why Chris Stevens was in Benghazi meeting shady people on the 9/11 anniversary. And while the specific crime of mishandling secret data was articulated none of the targets were raided by FBI. Nope, they were allowed to do casual FBI interviews with no recording or 302s produced. Staff lawyers were allowed to play personal attorney. No one was prosecuted for their obvious lies, such as Hillary’s claims (130 times!) that she didn’t know or couldn’t recall. She didn’t know nothing!

In contrast we have Shitt and Nadsler and the other 2-year Witchhunt where NO CRIME IS NAMED. instead of our 240 years of normal jurisprudence we now have imitated Beria: they will find the crime whether it exists or not.

Howard said...

Blogger tcrosse said...

Trump has stayed one step ahead of the Sheriff for decades, in a very tough environment. He has little to fear from these congressional pipsqueaks. It is not his first time at the rodeo (to continue the metaphor).


The pipsqueeks are just flashy cover for the deep state white shark just below the surface. These are alien waters Trump is swimming. It's not the pipsqueak mob in Manhattan

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Michael Guarino said...

"It's hard to think what anything really is or isn't anymore. It feels much better/smarter/safer to speak about whether things fit into memes. Or really not even that. It's more a matter of whether something can be used by somebody else to further their memes."

What skill does Axelrod plausibly have in determining the facts of the Russia case? And even if he had an informed opinion, which is almost certainly democrat-negative, why would he voice it? The fact is he is a campaign strategist, so basically a propagandist, but if we're more generous, a memester, and he's meme-ing on one side. Reality is not his expertise, so I can't totally blame him for being confused by it.

And of course this is true of the politicians, the political press, political appointees to high level gov't posts, etc. It is a story told poorly by idiots.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Inga - we all recall you're posts about how the GOP was going to force everyone into a Handmade's Tale dystopia.”

I recall that just about two weeks ago we had rightist commenters who advocated a “draft” in a time of war to give women the option of either have a baby for the State, or be drafted. So my premise, IF I even said anything like that, may not be so far from the truth.

LOL

daskol said...

Just look at him: it's not possible that he's not guilty of terrible crimes. Unfortunately, that's a sufficient justification for almost anything Trump's partisan enemies want to do to him, regardless of the cost to our political and civil institutions. It's not just the smooth transfer of power between administrations that's been forfeit here, but the integrity of law enforcement, intelligence and justice institutions. And with each escalation, the stakes are being raised. Finally, Axelrod and CNN anchors are fearing this, hence the sudden concern about optics of the document requests. The first rule of holes appears to be on their minds, although the hole is already very, very deep.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

LOL? So you do admit to knowing! the GOP will turn America into the Handmaid's Tale.

Shouting Thomas said...

Thanks Achilles for proving my point. You essentially are saying you people took it up the ass for decades without complaint, but now you still buggered, but scream like a stuck pig. Too little too late. Trump is the last dying gasp of a generational term-limited philosophy that failed on it's own merits in the free market by the invisible hand.

Somebody tell me what in the hell this means.

I hope this guy isn't a lawyer. I'd fail him on Rhetoric 101.

This is just blowhard filler from a freshman term paper.

Arashi said...

It is indeed a witch hunt. And the Trump administration should treat it with the same seriousness that the Obama administration did to all of the document requests sent to them by the GOP held house - just refuse and tell them to go pound sand.

Mike said...

IF I even said anything like that

Which is ALWAYS your response when called out for stupid things you write, or paste without reading, or paraphrase wrongly. But please elaborate on Benghazi: should we investigate those four deaths? How did it happen?

Howard said...

Well, I would say that if the deplorables wern't so incompetent and powerless, yes, indeed, they would create a Handmaid's Tail-like environment for womens. However, due to impotence, this will never come to pass. It's over, these imbeciles are dying off at a faster rate than normal because obesity, sedimentary lifestyle, bitter hatred, opioid and alcohol abuse. sad, not

Shouting Thomas said...

Trump knows where the bodies are buried in the NYC real estate biz.

Tread gently here, Dems.

Mike said...

Yes Arashi, exactly!

(Calling out a commenter!)

rehajm said...

Trump may very well be guilty of crimes--I'd be surprised if he were not-

it's not possible that he's not guilty of terrible crimes


So the belief is he's terrible for committing terrible unspeakable crimes but he's not so terrible he didn't itemize and report the income from these terrible crimes on Schedule C of his tax returns.

Achilles said...

Howard said...
Thanks Achilles for proving my point. You essentially are saying you people took it up the ass for decades without complaint, but now you still buggered, but scream like a stuck pig. Too little too late. Trump is the last dying gasp of a generational term-limited philosophy that failed on it's own merits in the free market by the invisible hand.

We shall see when you try to impose your jackboot philosophy on us.

Until then I am just going to remind you you support Stalinist criminals and are a piece of shit.

Venezuela is failing. The US under Trump again has the strongest and freest economy in the world.

You may be able to convince enough soap opera women like Ann Democrats are “normal” but we will never buy it.

In the end you and your leftist totalitarian friends are going to learn we are a Republic and not a democracy.

Howard said...

I work in the bowels of the sewers, Thomas... where you learn to see shit for exactly what it is.

Shouting Thomas said...

Well, I would say that if the deplorables wern't so incompetent and powerless...

Trump won the 2016 election and is in office as president.

For Christ's sake, Howard, think for a moment before you write dumb horseshit.

Rick said...

"If it's really so bad to run on the Green New Deal, why are Trump and McConnell taunting them about it now?

At some point a Dem is going to take a lead among the nutter base and pivot their effort to the general. Get them on the record before they start lying about their support.

rehajm said...

I don't have Hulu.

Seeing Red said...

Full Venezuela here we come!

Nonapod said...

In general, the most politically intolerant Americans, according to the analysis, tend to be whiter, more highly educated, older, more urban, and more partisan themselves. This finding aligns in some ways with previous research by the University of Pennsylvania professor Diana Mutz, who has found that white, highly educated people are relatively isolated from political diversity. They don’t routinely talk with people who disagree with them; this isolation makes it easier for them to caricature their ideological opponents.

Man, talk about confirming my biases, this study seems almost to good to be true. But it explains my own observations so well.

Howard said...

The only jackbooted philospohy being imposed on you Achilles is your own mental prison which feeds off of fantastical nightmares implanted on your brain stem by Sean Hannity and Plush Limbough.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Witchhunt where NO CRIME IS NAMED”

Seriously, you people are either complete idiots or haven’t kept up with the news.

1.Criminal Conspiracy
2. Obstruction of Justice

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/09/643444815/all-the-criminal-charges-to-emerge-so-far-from-robert-muellers-investigation

“The longer special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election has gone on, the more President Trump has railed against it. Since the investigation began in May 2017, the president has taken to Twitter and dismissed it as a "witch hunt" more than 125 times.

That criticism aside, the special counsel investigation has resulted in criminal counts against more than 30 people and three Russian entities. And while the final outcome of the Mueller probe remains far from certain, it has already generated new insights into how Russia targeted the election, the presidential transition and Trump's business empire.”

Take a look and you might just see what crimes have been committed. Ever heard of un-indicted co-conspirator? Some do get indicted...eventually.

Shouting Thomas said...

Let me define "incompetent" for you.

not having or showing the necessary skills to do something successfully.

Deplorables successfully elected Trump president.

Let me define "powerless" for you.

without ability, influence, or power.

Deplorables successfully elected Trump to the most powerful office in the world.

Aunty Trump said...

Howard is either the ideal receptacle for Democrat propaganda or a tool of Democrat propagandists.

Howard said...

Thomas: America has a what have you done lately standard of exceptionalism. The people voted for the which hunt in 2018.

Leland said...

I personally hate tit for tat, but that's why I voted for Trump. Schiff didn't get the memo and just made his move.

Achilles said...

Shouting Thomas said...
Thanks Achilles for proving my point. You essentially are saying you people took it up the ass for decades without complaint, but now you still buggered, but scream like a stuck pig. Too little too late. Trump is the last dying gasp of a generational term-limited philosophy that failed on it's own merits in the free market by the invisible hand.

Somebody tell me what in the hell this means.

He means that the leftists through a variety of strategies will win an election at some point and they will impose their will on us.

He thinks the cabal in DC will have the final word and there is nothing we can do.

He is wrong. He hates us and doesn’t understand us.

Howard said...

Very good Aunty... that catch-phrase response is a sure sign I'm hitting the bullseye. Thanks

Rick said...

I know of a strange troll who is obsessed with The Handmaid’s Tale and with a certain commenter. This troll brings it up even years later, as if he’s making a point.

I support truth with facts. So when you claim to be moderate and accuse others of extremism the fact that you think Republicans desire to implement The Handmaid's Tale seems a useful corrective to your propaganda campaign.

MadisonMan said...

Or however illegitimate.

Whether it's that, or legitimate, is debatable.

Mike Sylwester said...

When a witch-hunt begins, its first victims are odd, friendless, socially isolated individuals with few economic resources. Eventually, however, the witch-hunt spreads and increasingly attacks conventional, popular people who have the money to defend themselves.

In the case of the Salem witch-hunts, the first victims were elderly spinsters. Eventually, however, the witch-hunts attacked some of the state's most prominent citizens.

In the case of the RussiaGate witch-hunt, the first victims included George Papadopolous and Carter Page, a couple of free-lance consultants trying to develop their careers. Eventually, however, the FBI initiated an investigation of the US Attorney General, Jeff Sessions.

In the new case of Jerrold Nadler's witch-hunt, the first victims will be only the relatives and close associates of Donald Trump. Eventually, however, Nadler will expand his list of victims from 81 to 810.

Powerful people in the our country's Establishment already understand that in just a couple of years from now, none of them will be safe. The witch-hunt will begin with Jared Kushner, but by late 2020 might attack also, for example, Howard Schultz.

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When zealous witch-hunter Andrew McCabe initiated his counter-intelligence investigation of Attorney General Sessions, he went too far. That action backfired on McCabe.

Very powerful people in the Establishment understood that none of them were safe from McCabe, and so they got rid of him.

Now McCabe travels around the USA, still preaching the righteousness of his witch-hunt, but he has lost his effective power to accuse people of being witches. He has become like one of those Salem girls who had lost their power to cause trials of witches and who therefore had to return to their ordinary, humble lives.

Shouting Thomas said...

The other alternative is that Howard is an incoherent ranter who doesn't have the ability to present a single idea of substance.

He seems to be consumed by a code of honor, but so far as I can tell the only point of that code of honor is that everybody must bow before Howard.

I run into a lot of loony guys like him all the time on Facebook.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

1.Criminal Conspiracy
2. Obstruction of Justice


You've been repeating that for 2 years, Inga. Where's your precious Mueller?

Do explain in detail what it all means, Inga - in your own words.

What criminal conspiracy?

Name it.

What Obstruction of Justice?
Name it.
Firing the head of the FBI is well within the rights of any president.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Adam Schiff is a Criminal.
Why?

1.Criminal Conspiracy
2. Obstruction of Justice


That's all I need to say, apparently.

Aunty Trump said...

The people voted for the which hunt in 2018.

Democrats denied it to the skies before the election though. It’s OK, let’s see if lying works for Democrats.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Which is ALWAYS your response when called out for stupid things you write, or paste without reading, or paraphrase wrongly. But please elaborate on Benghazi: should we investigate those four deaths? How did it happen?”

Your go to argument is to make strawmen or/and mischaracterize comments people make...even Althouses. That’s dishonest and stupid.

Shouting Thomas said...

I'm very encouraged by this nonsense.

Trump has triumphed completely. Even Inga has essentially conceded that Russia collusion is a hoax and that she's out for blood because she can't abide by the results of the 2016 election.

Everything is being clarified.

Warning, Inga, Trump knows dirty infighting better than the Democrats. You've already lost the election, lost on the Russia collusion hoax and you're moving on to taking a position that is destined to lose in 2020.

Keep it up!

Birkel said...

Trump saying nice things about Chairman Kim is terrible because reasons.
Ty Cobb saying nice things about his foil, Mueller, is great because reasons.

Me scratching my head:
Saying nice things about the opposing side is a better strategy than cursing them.

Consistency.
How does it work?

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Democrats denied it to the skies before the election though. It’s OK, let’s see if lying works for Democrats.”

Untrue. Democrats were expecting and were calling for their Representatives to represent them, which is to investigate all wrongdoing by government officials, even if if is the President himself. No one is above the law, no matter how many idiotic tweets he makes.

Original Mike said...

Blogger Robert Cook said..."It is the undoing of the peaceful transfer of power."

That's exactly what it is and it's extremely dangerous.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Even Inga has essentially conceded that Russia collusion is a hoax...”

LIAR.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

The corrupt totalitarian Stalinist left should be told to pound sand. Daily.

The chairman of the Democrat-led House Judiciary Committee has fired off document requests to over 80 entities in President Trump's administration, as well as his family and business, dramatically expanding their investigations. This, even after the FBI, multiple congressional committees, and probably the Mueller investigation all failed to find evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia.

Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) announced on Monday that his committee served document requests to 81 agencies, entities, and individuals as part of its probe into "alleged obstruction of justice, public corruption, and other abuses of power by President Trump."

Nadler's gambit comes after the House Intelligence Committee, led by Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), announced its own expanded probe into the president's finances last month.

These hostile actions have spurred some Republicans to cry foul, including Washington attorney Joe diGenova, who suggested today that Trump's DOJ should not cooperate with Nadler's abusive investigation.

William said...

I think it's just going to go on … and on … and on, ad nauseam. NOTHING will change.

The Trump-haters minds' certainly won't be changed by anything that Nadler and his doofuses turn up. The Trump supporters' minds likewise will not be changed.

All this will do is turn more people off to the entire thing. Every night there will be sensationalist headlines; the MSM will be having a ball. All of this will be aimed at weakening DJT as we approach 2020.

But if Trump can keep the country moving ahead as it is moving ahead now (I just read that pending home sales increased 4.6%! in January), none of this crap will matter. It'll just make the other side look stupid. I believe that there are a lot of folks in this country who don't like Trump very much, but they cannot argue with the results he has produced. Given a choice between the obnoxious orange-hair who gets things done and a Democrat candidate who has lots of platitudes about how things ought to work, I think these folks will hold their noses and vote for Trump.

My guess is we'll see a similar picture in 2020 that we saw in 2016: Left and right coasts for the Democrat (whoever and whatever he/she is), but the VAST majority of the folks in the country voting for Trump.

I'd like an xtra large popcorn please with butter.

Tank said...

Original Mike said...

Blogger Robert Cook said..."It is the undoing of the peaceful transfer of power."

That's exactly what it is and it's extremely dangerous.


Really !

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Trump wrongdoing = beating Hillary.

Shouting Thomas said...

Yes, you have conceded, Inga.

That's why you're desperately searching for any and every other kind of criminal charge you can imagine.

You're a LIAR, Inga, and a commie thug.

But, your stupidity is playing right into Trump's hands.

Yes, you've conceded the hoax. That's why you've moved onto the witch hunt with no boundaries.

You have no respect for democracy, Inga. You're a thug.

Shouting Thomas said...

Now, Inga, be a nice girl and quit spending your days fabricating crimes you imagine Trump has committed.

That's a stupid, vicious, asshole way to spend your time.

You need a part time job. Maybe a full time job.

Tank said...

We have our Defendant, now if we could only find a damn crime in there somewhere.

Howard said...

I feel pity for you Achilles, not hate. I would have to fear to hate you

Shouting Thomas said...

I feel pity for you Achilles, not hate. I would have to fear to hate you...

The Voice of God bit.

Howard, your posts are even dumber, more incoherent and flagrantly useless than Ritmo's.

You're in over your head here. Inga is a brilliant conversationalist by comparison.

iowan2 said...

Somebody hacked Robert Cook's account.

He is asking for the same thing I have been asking for. One action of President Trump, or his administration that would warrant the issuance of a warrant, or a subpoena that could force a person to testify before congress.

This gets us away from the back and forth. On to substantive interaction.

So, Where did this all start? Name the event(s)!

Shouting Thomas said...

I will give this to Ritmo, Howard...

At least he waits until the bottom of the comment thread to scream bloody hell and say nothing.

Why don't you try that?

Arashi said...

Inga - No, just NO. The only people who the Demcrats intend to investigate, ever, are poeople who identify as Republican or Conservative.

They will not investigate anyone who is a Democrat or progressive\socialist\communist\fellow traveler. If they were going to investigate all wrong doing, the first on the list would be Hillary and her campaign. Her violations of US Security, her email server, her actual collusion with Russia, etc.

This is all about being pissed off about Hillary not winning the election like she was supposed to, and doing everything in their power to destroy Trump.

The Democrats do not care about the United States, its citizens, the economy, etc., unless doing something can furhter their grip on power and control.

The current Deocrat party is more than willing to burn it all down so it can stadn on the rubble and declare that they are in power forever. Unfortunately, too many of the current Republican party are OK with the direction, thye juat wnat it too happen a bit slower. And they all get to go the best parties and eat and drink the best foods and wines.

Seeing Red said...

White, highly educated people are the most politically intolerant in the entire country. These are the people who congregate in Boston, New York, and Washington.

Seems so.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Axelrod isn't quite saying it's a witch hunt, but it too easily plays into the "witch-hunt" meme.

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and weighs the same as a duck...

Drago said...

William: "But if Trump can keep the country moving ahead as it is moving ahead now (I just read that pending home sales increased 4.6%! in January).."

Everyday the lefties here, represented well by Inga, constantly assert Trump has destroyed our nation.

The reality, as you duly note, is completely the opposite. I think the lefties deep down know this (hence their hilarious alternating between 'Trump has destroyed everything!!' And 'everything is amazing but thanks to obama!!')

The left's/LLR's shifting to their next set of lies and their utter inability to engage effectively on the economy (they went full moron socialist!!) is all the evidence we need to know the left has literally nothing else to run on other than impeachment.

Henry said...

White, highly educated people are the most politically intolerant in the entire country. These are the people who congregate in Boston, New York, and Washington.

As the man said, read the whole thing.

Henry said...

@Nonapod -- Great link.

Unknown said...

This criminal partisan play doesn't even come up to the level of witch hunt. This is shi* on the bottom of your shoes. And that is what the open border democrat party has become. It is more dangerous to the country than Russia, China or Iran.

Mike Sylwester said...

The Resistance in the DOJ/FBI has been mostly scattered. The main remnant still in place is Rod Rosenstein, and he too soon will be gone.

Now DOJ/FBI is trying to restore its reputation as a nonpartisan institution that is respected largely by the entire population, rather than being disdained by half the electorate as an agent of the Democrat Party.

The DOJ/FBI will not want to be perceived as being involved in Jerrold Nadler's witch-hunt. DOJ/FBI will slow-walk every one of Nadler's requests for cooperation.

DOJ/FBI will not want to have anything to do with this witch-hunt.

The correlation of forces has changed utterly in the past two years.

Drago said...

iowan2: "Somebody hacked Robert Cook's account."

Nope. Cookie is smart enough to know that the totalitarian tactics and tools the insane left/LLR's are employing improperly against Trump can be used in the future against those on the left.

Inga and the rest of the lefty/LLR lunatic brigade care not a whit what they have to do to secure power today.

By any means necessary.

Cookie is a better student of history and unstinctively understands what that can mean long term.

Nichevo said...

Wanna try again to say something that can be sorted out?


No, Shouty, that's precisely what Howard does NOT want to do, say anything intelligible let alone analyzable. He's a wet-brain, or plays one on Blogspot. Don't go mud-wrestling with a pig, ST, you gwt dirty and the pig likes it.

EAB said...

Is it “discreet” demand or “discrete” demand?

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

We must get to the bottom of Adam Schiff's corruption.
He obstructed justice.
He Conspired criminally

Adam Schiff is a Russian plant.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Adam Schiff is Poot's poodle.

Birkel said...

1. Criminal conspiracy to beat Hillary Clinton by getting more electoral college votes.
2. Obstruction of justice for exercising presidential power when Hillary Clinton should be presidenting.

Trump is guilty.

n.n said...

More than nine trimesters later, it has been mostly warlock hunts and trials, with a few witches thrown in to the pot in order to meet diversity quotas.

Bad optics. Probably poor polling. It's time to change.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Inga and the rest of the lefty/LLR lunatic brigade care not a whit what they have to do to secure power today.

By any means necessary.

Cookie is a better student of history and unstinctively understands what that can mean long term.”

Trump wants to circumvent the House, which may be Unconstitutional, to build his wall by his Emergency Declaration. Rand Paul and some other Republicans seem to understand this. Some Democratic President in the future may say Global Warming is a National Emergency, but do sycophantic Trumpists Care? No vision for the future...apparently.

Hagar said...

Blogger Robert Cook said,
Everything since has been a concerted effort just to find something to charge him with. It is the undoing of the peaceful transfer of power.

Which is why Robert Cook should be treasured and protected by all of us.

Narayanan Subramanian said...

...He wants to preserve attorney client privilege for his clients, so he can't afford to have his office raided like Cohen's. Best to be nice to the guy that likes to use the FBI for raids...

Isn't this achieved by secret server in off-site water closet.

n.n said...

a fishing expedition

A phishing expedition that exposed Podesta et al, and Deep Plumber who flushed Water Closet, and may no longer be viable. RIP

Shouting Thomas said...

Trump wants to circumvent the House, which may be Unconstitutional...

"wants to" "may be"

What can I do to help you find a purpose in life, Inga?

traditionalguy said...

Interesting times. Inga notes that Ty Cobb is ressurrecting Mueller now that the time has come for him to clear our beloved President. Mueller was always working for the Trump team's as a red herring that sucked in the hate Trump criminals attention while for two years they gathered evidence against the Bush/Clinton/Bush and Obama Massive Treason operations.

This was revealed 18 months ago, and ignored. All of DJT's trash Sessions movie was a trick to get Mueller time. All the indictments by Mueller's team were either for non-crimes pleas to get sworn testimony admitted, or they were of the known Soros/Clinton plants into Trump's Campaign, but surprise, surprise those guys are now being treated horribly.

n.n said...

The Constitution is not merely "living", but may, in fact, be malignant. Weird things happen at the twilight fringe.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Which is why Robert Cook should be treasured and protected by all of us.”

Only when he agrees with you people. Too funny. How has Drago and other extremists here responded to Cook when he/they doesn’t/don’t agree with him? So raise your big powerful and protective voice for Cook when that happens next. I’ll be waiting to see what happens.

LOL

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“What can I do to help you find a purpose in life, Inga?”

Take a walk in heavy traffic?

Yancey Ward said...

What Nadler is doing is the perfect example of "show me the man, and I will show you the crime."

Drago said...

Inga: "Trump wants to circumvent the House, which may be Unconstitutional, to build his wall by his Emergency Declaration."

Obama already did this very thing in re-allocating funding previously approved by Congress for a different but "related" purpose: re obamacare/additional payments to insurance companies.

Obama also illegally legislated all by his little lonesome and out of thin air the entire DACA scheme.

Number of democrat/lefty/LLR complaints about that? ZERO

It would be helpful for you in the future to stop pretending that history started 15 minutes ago all the time.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Trump could be partaking in illegal activity right now.
We must get to the bottom of it.

Jim at said...

No bogus “Benghazi!” type investigations. - Inga

Once again, why don't you go run your big mouth to the friends and family of those four, dead Americans who were killed over a youtube video. Tell them how 'bogus' the whole thing was.

Drago said...

Inga: "How has Drago and other extremists ..."

The open borders/abolish ICE/kill babies born alive crew would like to lecture others on "extremism".

Discuss

Shouting Thomas said...

Ever thought of giving up the spiteful old bitch routine, Inga?

Really, you need something to occupy your time.

You obviously have nothing to do.

This pathetic fixation you've developed for political vendettas is not a life.

Seeing Red said...

It’s not agreeing, it’s the fact that even Cookie can see it but you can’t.

Cookie’s been correct on occasion.

Francisco D said...

Everything since has been a concerted effort just to find something to charge him with. It is the undoing of the peaceful transfer of power.

I appreciate that statement Cookie. You have earned deserved respect from me and others here.

You provide an excellent example of how a lefty can be rational and fair-minded.

It's not hard, is it? The Dems in DC and here seem to be struggling mightily with that.

Michael McNeil said...
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Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Once again, why don't you go run your big mouth to the friends and family of those four, dead Americans who were killed over a youtube video. Tell them how 'bogus' the whole thing was.”

3/5/19, 12:51 PM

“What you’re going to see is a conservative speaker, that takes a conservative Congress, that puts a strategy to fight and win. And let me give you one example. Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right?

But we put together a Benghazi special committee. A select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she’s untrustable. But no one would have known that any of that had happened had we not fought to make that happen.”
Kevin McCarthy

Democrats know Trump is even less trustworthy.

Seeing Red said...

Hillary lied to the parents’ faces.

It’s what she does.

Michael McNeil said...

Trump may very well be guilty of crimes—I'd be surprised if he were not—

it's not possible that he's not guilty of terrible crimes

Really? Following the Cohen hearing, George Mason University law professor David Bernstein (who's no Trump supporter) just the other day posted this on Facebook (quoting…):

Donald Trump is a man of low character. But he’s apparently quite careful in avoiding doing things that are obviously illegal. Or, at least, that’s what I surmise from the fact that his personal lawyer of 10 years really can’t come up with anything he did that was obviously illegal.

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For Inga and those like her hope lies eternal…. But there's also the saying that “Hope is not a strategy.” Here's what we know that Cohen testified (quoting…):

Mr. Trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress. That’s not how he operates. In conversations we had during the campaign, at the same time I was ­actively negotiating in Russia for him, he would look me in the eye and tell me there’s no business in Russia and then go out and lie to the American people by saying the same thing.

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It's going to be pretty hard impeaching Trump for (e.g.) “suborning perjury” (asking his lawyer to lie to Congress for him) when his cooperating lawyer's testimony is that Trump didn't “suborn”! (There wasn't even a wink and a nod! The lawyer testified in effect he just picked it all up by extrasensory osmosis!)

I think folks should seriously consider at this point that the probability is that Trump didn't commit any crimes of note here. He didn't “collude” with Russia (that narrative is in ruins at this point), and he didn't illegally attempt to “suborn perjury.” Time will tell, but that's where the evidence that's come out over the past 2+ years points.

Compare Trump's relatively strong position with Canadian prime minister Trudeau — who is suddenly really in trouble (for tampering repeatedly with his attorney general’s prosecutions, then firing her when she refused to bend) — and at her explicit testimony is likely soon to be booted out of office.

Meanwhile, Trump's job appears to be secure — at least until 2020.

Seeing Red said...

There was also a vested interest in saving Obama.

Drago said...

Inga: "Democrats know Trump is even less trustworthy."

Democrats know the hoax dossier is true.

Democrats know Magic Batteries exist that makes the Green New Deal viable.

Democrats know you can just change your biological sex just by thinking about it.

Democrats know babies born alive, outside of the mother do not deserve to be protected from murder.

Democrats "know" lots of things....

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