The woman at the center of the story, Deborah Ramirez, who is fifty-three, attended Yale with Kavanaugh.... The New Yorker contacted Ramirez after learning of her possible involvement in an incident involving Kavanaugh.... She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections....
“We were sitting in a circle,” she said. “People would pick who drank.” Ramirez was chosen repeatedly, she said, and quickly became inebriated. At one point, she said, a male student pointed a gag plastic penis in her direction. Later, she said, she was on the floor, foggy and slurring her words, as that male student and another stood nearby...
A third male student then exposed himself to her. “I remember a penis being in front of my face,” she said. “I knew that’s not what I wanted, even in that state of mind.” She recalled remarking, “That’s not a real penis,” and the other students laughing at her confusion and taunting her, one encouraging her to “kiss it.”... She remembers Kavanaugh standing to her right and laughing, pulling up his pants. “Brett was laughing,” she said. “I can still see his face, and his hips coming forward, like when you pull up your pants.” She recalled another male student shouting about the incident. “Somebody yelled down the hall, ‘Brett Kavanaugh just put his penis in Debbie’s face,’ ” she said. “It was his full name. I don’t think it was just ‘Brett.’ And I remember hearing and being mortified that this was out there.”...
[A]fter several days of considering the matter carefully, she said, “I’m confident about the pants coming up, and I’m confident about Brett being there.” Ramirez said that what has stayed with her most forcefully is the memory of laughter at her expense from Kavanaugh and the other students. “It was kind of a joke,” she recalled. “And now it’s clear to me it wasn’t a joke.”
September 23, 2018
"Deborah Ramirez, a Yale classmate of Brett Kavanaugh’s, has described a dormitory party gone awry and a drunken incident that she wants the F.B.I. to investigate."
A new article by Ronan Farrow and Jane Mayer in The New Yorker.
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"Judge Brett Kavanaugh reportedly still has his social calendar from the summer of 1982, and according to the New York Times, he’s bringing it with him when he testifies next week.
Peter Baker, of the New York Times, revealed the information in a series of tweets on Sunday afternoon.
Kavanaugh has calendars from summer 1982 that he plans to give the Senate that don’t show a party that matches Blasey Ford’s description, according to someone working for his confirmation. Calendars can’t prove it didn’t happen but his team will argue there is no corroboration.
— Peter Baker (@peterbakernyt) September 23, 2018
The calendars show he was out of town much of the summer at the beach or with his parents and they detail basketball games, movie outings, football workouts and so forth. A few parties are mentioned but include names of people other than those identified by Blasey Ford.
— Peter Baker (@peterbakernyt) September 23, 2018:
https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/23/kavanaugh-social-calendar-1982/
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Men, if you know what's good for you, you'll stay away from female progressives of any age and taking a degree in any discipline.
The plan is clear: make a vote impossible BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!
When I read this I laughed aloud. I suspect most of America will too. The Democrat’s loss of anything approaching a sane perspective renders them more ridiculous by the day.
I'm sure Ms. Ramirez perceives keeping Kavanaugh off the Supreme Court as part of her commitment to "work towards human rights, social justice, and social change."
Putting K on the bench surely is reversible by impeachment.
Take vote for confirmation and impeachment.
Stay that for after midterm.
Now we know why Christine Ford's attorneys have been stalling. They've been leaning on this poor idiot for the last week, knowing that a second accusation, no matter how weak, would be the coffin nail.
Both Ford and Ramirez are professional leftys. (Literally - they work in academia and social justice). I can't imagine it will hurt either of them professionally to be the women who saved the Supreme Court for a generation.
"Funny how we never see a chemistry or engineering major involved in this crap."
Because they don't need a backup plan for success. Then again, those book deals are juicy, easy and quick money.
Was part of the famous Yale Sex Week festivities?
Well, does anyone else at this gathering remember this alleged incident? Inquiring minds want to know.
She recalled another male student shouting about the incident. “Somebody yelled down the hall, ‘Brett Kavanaugh just put his penis in Debbie’s face,’ ” she said. “It was his full name. I don’t think it was just ‘Brett.’ And I remember hearing and being mortified that this was out there.
She was so sure of it she needed six days to be certain? Or after six days of thinking about it she became sure it was Brett Kavanaugh and not just Brett?
What a joke.
...aaaaand that's all, folks. K is toast.
Can Ms. Ramirez identify anyone else who was there? Can they confirm that the incident happened and that Kavanaugh participated? Suspicious that she remembers only Brett Kavanaugh.
COME ON.
Does anyone ever ask the question that if Kavanaugh is to be weighed & found wanting for his juvenile behavior then maybe we should judge these accusing women as being drunken sluts for their juvenile behavior?
I mean, jeebus, what is it with these young women and drinking until inebriation in sexual situations? Are they just so sexually repressed that they can't have sex unless hammered (1 out of 20 British women in a recent poll admitted to never being sober during sex)?
Okay, maybe Kavanaugh's a bastard who doesn't belong on the SCOTUS. But, that upper class women basically can publicly admit, & actually get massive public support for admitting, that "I'm so sexually fucked up I can't even have sex without being totally shit-faced" is indicative of a level of female social dysfunction that starts to make the re-introduction of chaperons at all mixed-sex functions seem like a societal necessity.
Trump should tweet "It's apparent that nobody will ever be appointed to the SCOTUS again. I'm fine with that. When RBG croaks, we'll be back to an odd number."
This is how they will attempt to take the cold ruthlessness of social media and apply it to people who were young before the internet.
Brett Kavanaugh was at a drinking party in college.
Horrors!
For 35 years she wasn't very sure of her memory or even if it was Kavanaugh.
But after 35 years and 6 days, not only is she sure, but someone even yelled out, "It was Brett Kavanaugh who put his penis in her face and she touched it!"
People who believe this, I have a bridge to sell you.
In my experience, it's the women who usually have the "gag penis", known as a dildo. I doubt a man brought it.
Cant wait to read how Althouse feels about this.
I wonder if Ms. Ramirez thinks that "people will die" if Kavanaugh gets on the Supreme Court.
If Kavanaugh really has documented proof he was not at the Ford party (so far he has 4 out of 4 witnesses calling bullshit), then accuser #2 is in the bullpen warming up. It will be reported like Ford's lie never happened, and again we'll be told women must be believed. Doesn't anybody watch the TV show "Cheaters"?
...aaaaand that's all, folks. K is toast.
Sadly, I think you're right. Althouse will soon be explaining to us why she believes this newest accuser too.
If a woman is mistreated she should file a police report. Next subject.
the radicalized leftists in our society will believe anything that reinforces their beliefs. Proof, evidence or reality are merely things that make them not feel safe.
Unfortunately, this drivel will be taken as gospel by the entrenched totalitarian leftists. The deep state will advance the theme of sex offender on the Supreme Court. The weak sisters will shy away from asking any discerning questions. And eventually, Judge Kavanaugh will withdraw his name. This will be the beginning of the end of our Republic.
At my university, a fraternity used to do a "fun run" every year, where the whole fraternity ran naked down the streets. It was immortalized in one of the American Pie movies.
And now none of those guys could get SCOTUS confirmation, huh? Is that how we are going to play this?
Women, if you know what's good for you, you will avoid getting drunk at parties. Unless, of course, the experience might come in handy 30 years later.
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At my university, a fraternity used to do a "fun run" every year, where the whole fraternity ran naked down the streets. It was immortalized in one of the American Pie movies.
And now none of this?
Not at all. If you're a Democrat, no one is going to come forward with these bogus stories. Even if you managed to kill your girlfriend by drowning her in a river.
This is only the case going forward if you're a Republican.
Wow. A real Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde situation!
And now none of those guys could get SCOTUS confirmation, huh?
Only if they're Democrats.
I wish women could remember my penis after so long, or even the next day would be nice. Mr. Happy feels underappreciated.
Yeah, now 30 years later, and after seeing that $$$ and publicity, I see it wasn't a joke.
Wow, Lame. A bunch of drunk college students, a plastic penis, and a girl's foggy drunken recollection that maybe a penis belong to Kavenaugh, may or may not have been waved in her face.
Sometime in the 80s. Devastating.
@mockturtle, just remember to vote for McSally.
I was hoping her name was Lucy Ramirez.
Too bad.
I wonder if the Kavanaugh penis has it's own social calendar from back then.
The more I hear stories like this, the less and less I care about the #metoo movement. Not saying what allegedly occurred was fine, but if women don't have a requisite amount of resiliency just start taking away their rights and once again make them protectorates of the men in their lives. If decades later you are still hung up on the fact that you saw someone's genitalia at drunken party, I could care less.
She recalled another male student shouting about the incident. “Somebody yelled down the hall, ‘Brett Kavanaugh just put his penis in Debbie’s face,’ ” she said. “It was his full name. I don’t think it was just ‘Brett.’
Right. Would a drunk college kid have used the term 'penis', not cock, dick, dong, etc.? How much was this woman paid to concoct this story?
Is that a penis or a pencil, she drunkenly remarked.
"In my experience, it's the women who usually have the "gag penis", known as a dildo. I doubt a man brought it."
Actually, yeah. I've had a pretty wild sex life, and a pretty degenerate college experience, and I can honestly say that I've never actually ever seen a dildo in real life.
It's amazing what comes up when you drag a Supreme Court nomination defeat through a college campus.
The Republicans better buck up, because nobody is going to want to go through this after Kavanaugh.
I was in high school the year that streaking was a thing. A few kids ran naked through the school during lunch. Yea, they had balls.
Attention everyone, Mr. Brett Kavenaugh, put his penis in Miss Ramirez's face.
She drunkenly remembered in a formal sort of way.
Can we have at least one accuser who wasn't blind drunk when these "incidents" happen? Is that too much to ask? Also would be nice if they had a witness to corroborate instead of 3 named witnesses attesting nothing of the sort happened. Thanks.
Nobody says "penis" in that situation, especially back then.
Of and course, Debbie Ramirez, will turn out to be a Reagan Republican.
Unfortunately this BS accusation may doom Kavanaugh. That’s the sad reality. And I won’t trust The New Yorker or Ronan Farrow ever again. I also won’t ever vote for the Democrats.
This shit is so rotten. The way it’s been handled is so transparently political and intended to delay in hopes a Democratic majority in 2019 can save abortion. I’m actually pro-choice and this has me heated.
I sat out 2016 because I hated both Hillary and Trump. Now I want to vote.
Once again, at drunken teen bacchanals, only men are responsible for their behavior...40 years later.
YH wrote: I mean, jeebus, what is it with these young women and drinking until inebriation in sexual situations? Are they just so sexually repressed that they can't have sex unless hammered (1 out of 20 British women in a recent poll admitted to never being sober during sex)?
Could it be that sex is profoundly unpleasant for those women? Modern hook-ups require that they swallow more than their pride these days.
I'm with you, bleh. I don't care if Donald Trump starts fucking World War III. He's got my vote in 2020.
We'll remember this as the day the #metoo movement jumped the shark.
The moral seems to be don't go to a drunken party with a drunk young Kavanaugh and the boys.
Someone may grope you or wave plastic dick in your face.
"Once again, at drunken teen bacchanals, only men are responsible for their behavior...40 years later."
These women aren't being considered for swearing oaths -- they aren't even testifying under oath.
I never realized drunk party girls were such prudes.
My girlfriend, who is a lifelong liberal, adamant pro-choicer and two-time Obama voter, is thoroughly disgusted by the Dems over this. I hope she's one of millions.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
My first impression of this story: look what’s come crawling out from rocks.
I’m of course open to credible evidence but my first impression, sour and cynical, has been formed by the Ds’ growing disreputable conduct throughout the hearing, ranging from the utter grandstanding of Booker, to the malicious, misleading demagoguery of Harris, to the steadfast screeching, stolid idiocy of Hirono, to the talking point screeching of most D senators—Coons was an exception, for example—to the now culminating manifest injustice of Ds trying to tar Kavanaugh with the allegations of Ford, three and a half decades old, uncorroborated, vague as to many specifics, internally contradictory on points, and with claimed witnesses denying the events as as of course as has most absolutely Kavanaugh himself.
The Ds have utterly disgraced themselves in all this.
As I've said before, 80 million people in this country own 350 million dildos. More dildos that all of the armies of the world. You don't want to face those 350 million dildos, but you sure act like you do.
"Mom, Dad, I've decided to go to Yale."
We live in an age where truth is not important. The only thing that truly matters is to make sure my point of view is taken and whether it is true or not.. doesn't matter.
We are told what to believe by the MSM and told to shutup if we don't follow what they tell us.
There is no debate in this country anymore.
Until we say at the ballotbox.. Enough is enough... This will continue.. The choice is yours to make a difference..
Kavanaugh was in college in the years immediately following the release of the classic comedy 'Animal House'. That movie had a powerful effect on Greek life for a long time, to this day probably. A lot of kids, boys and girls, felt they had to live up to or exceed the wild example of the movie fraternity. A lot of dicks were waved in those days. Did Kavanaugh wave his dick? Who knows. The damn things all look a lot alike.
I'm sure there are a lot of dicks still being waved on campus today. The American Pie movies, for example, are much more current and they portray and encourage some very ribald behavior.
But that's not funny, not anymore. Time's up. The Democrats are out of power, not in the friggin' mood and have had just about enough of these shenanigans for today.
I can remember a party game in College, lose a hand, and you took an item of clothing off. And a drink. Of course, we stopped at the underwear, and bras and panties.
We were such timid souls. No one ever thought of plastic penis.
Have you ever seen girls from the bachelorette party walking down the streets in their penis gear?
IDK, this is kind of funny coming from people who dress up like vulva at protests and want men to be able to use women's locker rooms.
There's that sinister Kavanaugh laugh again, proving it was him.
"A lot of dicks were waved in those days."
I don't remember any dicks from Animal House. I think were naked boobies though.
Already people are coming out of the woodwork who went to college with both of them- and calling it BS.
At this point if Democrats found a picture- I'd assume it was photoshopped.
Kavanaugh is a foot note.
Trump is next.
GOP is last.
The fat lady has sung.
Sad.
Was this incident reported to Dean Vernon Wormer?
Is Senator John Blutarsky still on the Judicial Committee?
"Mine's bigger. My cucumber. It's bigger. I think vegetables can be very sensuous, don't you? ..." --Eric 'Otter' Stratton
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Folks, we're at a point where Animal House is more credible than the Democrats.
Bob Boyd- yeah, I've been thinking a lot about the American Pie movies with all of this.
(and Ha! Animal House. What would Senator Blutarsky say about all of this?)
Elena and the wise Latina are really looking forward to Brett joining the Court.
Full witch hunt.
rcocean- naked boobs are apparently ok. Flashing for beads at Mardi Gras is not, as yet, sexual assault.
bagoh20 wrote: I was in high school the year that streaking was a thing. A few kids ran naked through the school during lunch. Yea, they had balls.
I took part in a streak. There was a party at my house -- my parents were gone. Underage drinking was involved. Several of us guys got the urge to streak (it was dark out) and so we did -- all around the neighborhood! But it started to rain and when we came back, one of the guys slipped on my parent's tile floor inside the front door. He banged his head pretty good on something and somebody called his dad who came over very quickly. We weren't falling down drunk, so his only question was "why are you guys all naked?" I guess it looked pretty bad -- half the JV football team naked at a party.
C'mon guys. Of course its the truth.
Why would anyone lie about something like that?
As Clinton supporters said: No one lies about sex.
I trust she will also be allowed to testify this week new oath.
Kevin said: "Or after six days of thinking about it she became sure it was Brett Kavanaugh and not just Brett?"
How else could we rule out Somers?
Two things come to mind:
1) Each of these accusations would be 100 times more believable if they had come at any time, any time at all other than the eleventh hour right before a vote seemed to be about to happen. And right after the previous attacks fizzled.
2) The FBI really is totally incompetent. Six background checks of the guy, and they couldn't turn up any of this, when it's obviously his habit to assault women several times a weekend? And now there's rumored to be a whole rape ring he was in charge of, and they didn't find that either? Why have them look into it now when they couldn't dig up those totally, totally real actual facts before, incidents that definitely existed all along and weren't recently made up?
Avenatti has more on deck. Remember him?
The progs play for blood and are good at it.
The nominee has retained a top defamation lawyer, I’m sure this is why the responses to the high school incident have all been through lawyers.
The latest incident is just surreal.
Interesting how minor both incidents are, involve alcohol, and seem vague.
I wonder if any male that went to the same school, if similarly accused, would be able to defend themselves?
I feel sorry for his reputation, and the pain caused to his family, especially his daughters.
Okay, so now we are somewhere else. I assume she is willing to testify?
"I can remember a party game in College, lose a hand, and you took an item of clothing off. And a drink. Of course, we stopped at the underwear, and bras and panties."
I played that game once and lost, and ended up under blankets with the other loser. We ended up dating for 3 years. In retrospect, I'd say we won.
Now Michael Avanetti is accusing Kavanaugh of drugging women and arranging gang rapes.
Anyone remember streaking? Mooning? Wedgies? Grungie tugs?
Has there ever been a question of the FBI’s competence?
Lordy.
First line should be: ...out from under rocks...
This is the best Me Too corroboration The Resistance could come up with?
Woody Allen didn’t molest his daughter Dylan. Woody is a creep but so is Mia Farrow. She’s an abusive nut job as her son Moses makes clear and so did Soon-Yi.
Ronan is a mama’s boy. I feel bad for him that he grew up in such a fucked up household.
But if he and the New Yorker are just going to exercise no judgment then WTF?
“I’m just going to through this out there” is a bullshit approach. Ramirez took six days to come back to him with “her memories” that she didn’t remember the week before.
What a fucking joke MeToo has become.
Ronan Farrow is setting back the movement 40 years.
Bring in Amy Barrett for a floor vote on Thursday. A woman with 7 kids is exactly what is needed to put down The Resistance.
And GOP operatives better be lining up accusers against Schumer, Durbin, Manchin, and the rest.
Find a Breyer accuser and impeach and remove him from the Supreme Court.
Let The Games Begin
how many more of these women do the Democrats have lined up
https://nypost.com/2018/09/22/how-feinstein-is-conspiring-to-destroy-kavanaugh/
@Cyrillic Something or another,
Could it be that sex is profoundly unpleasant for those women? Modern hook-ups require that they swallow more than their pride these days.
Then the woman should set ground rules right up front -- "we're dating, not hooking up, & I expect to be wooed, not pumped & dumped". There are decent young men out there, & if expectations are made clear to them, they'll give it a try once or twice to see if she's worth continuing with.
Oh, no, I'm not denying moral agency to these women, because I know what they're doing. What they're doing is using sex in the hopes that somehow, in some sort of magical way, they can get their hooks into some desired male by sex, and sex only. It's a short cut for them, too, as much as it is for the boys. Just a short cut to a different destinations. They often end up surprised & hurt & bitter because their partners didn't find their precious & rare desert blossom of a pussy to be all he could ever desire in life. Strangely enough, he often ends up looking for more somewhere else.
So many young women could have profited mightily by a good, frank talk with their grand- (now great-grand-) mothers on how to handle & keep a man.
She took six days to convince herself it was him? Practically a text book case of a self induced false memory, if in fact she really believes it.
"Okay, so now we are somewhere else. I assume she is willing to testify?"
Testify to what? That drunk Kavanaugh, *may* have waved his penis in her face, when she was too drunk too be sure?
Maybe the FBI can investigate. Assuming anyone can remember a date, or who was there, or that happened in a drunken dorm party 30 years ago.
Incredible that no one remembered any of this stuff years ago when he was up for Court of Appeals.
Guess being a Appeals judge, just isn't that important.
The whole letter to Feinstein has been released. Dr Ford writes like a teenager. I can't believe she is supposedly an academic
Gahrie said...Althouse will soon be explaining to us why she believes this newest accuser too.
I think she'll believe anything that Ronan Farrow says or writes, including that Woody Allen is his biological father. Physical evidence be damned.
IMHO, unless there is a police report, no one should be held accountable for college party behavior 30 years ago. Taking this nonsense seriously makes the Senate look like a bunch of idiots.
A former Commander in Chief was fellated in the oval office and shoved a cigar up a young woman's vagina. In the oval office! While he was President! Good grief, now women are hysterical about some high school and college kids drunken behavior?
And if anyone believes the results of 'polls', they deserve to be deceived.
Let me give her credit. At least she's not claiming to be traumatized by the Beast Kavanaugh.
A bit late to hire a top defamation lawyer. Better to hire a locksmith.
What is with these nutters thinking the FBI investigates these things? That's the most telling thing in these allegations.
Effective immediately all candidates for the SGOTUS must be 30 years of age at birth, Mormons, and chaste.
So much for the sexual revolution.
Mock: The Country has gone mad. Or at least a part of it.
Do we have enough sane people left?
"I don't remember any dicks from Animal House. "
I don't either, but I remember some wild behavior and some wilder stories from those days.
I bet a lot of women, who want to feel outrage at Kavanaugh, have sons who have waved, are at this very moment waving, or will soon be waving their dicks at their classmates in colleges all across this great land of ours.
I don't really care if Kavanaugh waved his dick. It didn't seem to bother Ramirez until very recently. I'm sure, if he did, it seemed like a good idea at the time and you kinda had to be there.
I don't want be accused of being prissy and priggish.
Mock: The Country has gone mad. Or at least a part of it.
Do we have enough sane people left?
The FBI - THE FBI - is supposed to investigate a penis being wiggled at a chick during a drunk college party almost 40 years ago?
This country is a f'ng joke.
This is gotten to the point of being funny. I mean, everyone else in the dormitory denies the incident, the lady in question takes six days to maybe recall the name with the help of her attorney and admits she was blotto at the time. Snicker. The Dems are looking like lunatics to everyone but the true believers. I cannot believe this is going to help them. And Ronan has become a name to laugh at. The New Yorker was already the ghost of departed sanity, but it is going to end up sucking down all who write for it.
So many young women could have profited mightily by a good, frank talk with their grand- (now great-grand-) mothers on how to handle & keep a man.
They'd warn their daughter about Russian hands and Roman fingers. Roman being code for Catholic.
Feinstein is asking for the hearing Thursday to be delayed because of these "serious" allegations.
Chuck- I agree. This is very off brand for Ronan. It's going to hurt him.
SCOTUS
But you knew that...
This is too vague to justify consequences for a single, specific individual. Nonetheless, these stories due ring true to a lot of women, and I feel that is sufficient justification to end all federal funding to the Ivy League immediately and forever.
If it keeps one woman from remembering that one time when she saw a penis thirty years ago, it's worth it.
Here's a link to the DiFi letter asking for a delay.
Let's stick to the facts. Ford has never made an accusation to the Senate. She has let rumor do all of her work and as of yet has not committed a crime of lying to investigators.
Ditto for the new one, Ramirez, no formal accusation. The Dems have also kept both of these women a secret, away from Republican investigation. Much like Cory Booker's decision to ignore senate rules. The staff on the Dem justice committee, are investigating independently, keeping facts from the Republicans. These new ground rules are not going to set well with Dems when the situation is reversed.
But by all means let's focus on the feelz of females that cant seem to function in society, because of something the didn't even know about for 25 years, or only recently determined to be real rather than fantasy.
Here is Avenetti's allegations of gang rape.
Being rather suspicious and paranoid, I see all this as a false flag operation. Kavanaugh is clearly a mainstream conservative and I have no respect for them. Another Roberts. I don’t care if he is on or off TSCOTUS as I don’t think he is a limited government judge. I’m sure the Democrats see him as manipulable and are happy to have him on the Court. All this Durm and Strang is just nonsense meant to be a Squirrel.
The FBI should cease trying to prevent the next major terrorist attack on the USA and do what the Democrats want: investigate decades ago High School and Yale freshman parties. /s
(BTW Fox News guy Hilton said tonight that CPL (Creepy Porn Lawyer) is claiming a third accusation tomorrow.)
"After six days of assessing her memories...." We have gone insane
“It was kind of a joke,” she recalled. “And now it’s clear to me it wasn’t a joke.”
Remember, we are now in the age of "that's not funny".
Maybee, that was my reaction too reading Ford's letter. She is in academia? Criminy, their standards have really sunk. I have read angry letters to the HOA with better coherence and diction.
Kavanaugh turned me into a newt!
I got better.
@MayBee,
Here is Avenetti's allegations of gang rape.
Now gang rape, huh?
"And, I swear to everyone on the committee that Judge Kavanaugh, then a senior in high school, tied my grandma down to a picnic table and then fist-fucked her in front of God & everyone at the St. Francis De Sales Parish picnic. In fairness to the judge, I have to add that grandma later said that it was the best parish picnic ever!"
This is turning from a confirmation hearing into a Senatorial version of The Aristocrats Joke, isn't it?
I won't believe this unless and until Deborah Ramirez retains a competent sketch artist.....
Hopefully enough Americans have the good sense to see Ramirez and Ford for the liars that they are. There's no point in being diplomatic or nice to them about this, they are literally taking advantage of and discrediting every woman who actually has been abused by a man in a transparent attempt to take out a nominee to satisfy their own personal politics.
“It was kind of a joke,” she recalled. “And now it’s clear to me it wasn’t a joke.”
"it's really a sign that we've become so much more prissy and repressed in recent times. Sad!"
She recalled remarking, “That’s not a real penis,”
That's the point where you're supposed to say, "It looks like a penis. Only smaller."
Here is Ford's letter to Feinstein.
> I can't believe she is supposedly an academic
Ha, Ha. I remember a graduate student who wrote essays, about one paragraph long, ALL IN HAND PRINTED CAPS. Thank G*d I didn't have to teach him math. The guy was nice enough, but completely uneducated.
Not only is this Kavanaugh finished, he might be impeached. The latest allegations from Avenatti are over the top bad.
"I want to believe."
"It was aliens."
"Elvis is not dead, he just went home."
"Klaatu barada nikto"
"A former Commander in Chief was fellated in the oval office and shoved a cigar up a young woman's vagina. In the oval office! While he was President! "
And all the new pearl clutchers would jump at the chance to meet him, and even vote for him again. The good ol days when men were cads, and women loved it.
“But it's the truth even if it didn't happen.”
---One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Lyndon Johnson was a renown flasher.
Censure Feinstein. If this is not ended, we will never return to a working Senate. If these games win, there will be no actual legislating, no actual governance. Just power and the rule of men-- or Leftists. A boot on our face forever.
what happens next is very ugly and involves real war. The Democrats refuse to heed the calls to step back from this brink.
By the middle of the week, Kavanaugh will be the owner of numerous slave women in an underground KKK cult that also destroys American currency by placing pennies stolen from crippled kids on train tracks.
From her letter to Fienstein:
I am availble to· speak further should you wish to discuss. I am currently Vacationing in the Mid-Atlantic till August 7th and will be in California after August 1Oth
So how did you get from Palo Alto To DC and back?
I'm hearing rumors that Amy Barret hit on a priest who turned her down because he's homosexual.
I thought she couldn't fly. Did she drive back from DC to Palo Alto in 3 days?
that's a hell of drive. That's 900-1000 miles a day.
Bill Clinton once pulled the old one-eyed snake outta his pants and told Paula Jones to "kiss it".
Hey, it happens.
The Ramirez allegation might very well have torpedoed the BK nomination.
But then comes Avenatti with the equivalent of gas warfare, which always had the unfortunate potential to blow back on the same army that deployed it. Thereby saving the BK nomination after all.
Let's see. According to the article:
(1) a bunch of college kids were sitting in a circle drinking;
(2) Ramirez quickly became inebriated;
(3) a plastic penis was pointed in her direction;
(4) later, she became inebriated to the point where "she was on the floor, foggy and slurring her words";
(5) she saw a penis in front of her face and thought, “That’s not a real penis,”
(6) people around her were laughing, with one encouraging her to “kiss it”;
(7) Kavanaugh was standing to her right and laughing, "and his hips com[e] forward, like when you pull up your pants”;
(8) another male student "yelled down the hall, ‘Brett Kavanaugh just put his penis in Debbie’s face.’”
Assuming this woman isn't simply making this up after 35 years of not being sure of Kavanaugh's role in all of this but the last 6 days of coaching from god-knows-who, here are a few comments:
(1) she was completely shit-faced -- how can we trust her memory, especially after 35 years?
(2) a plastic penis was present and had already been pointed in her direction -- could it be that this is the penis that she later saw?
(3) while on the floor in a "foggy" state, she saw another penis and thought that it wasn't a real one -- this would be consistent with the fact that there was a plastic penis present.
(4) Kavanaugh motioned as if he were pulling up his pants -- maybe he held the plastic penis in front of his crotch while standing above her, then moved his hips forward as if pulling up his pants.
(5) it seems odd that someone would yell Kavanaugh's last name but not hers.
All in all, a lot a reasons to be skeptical of this latest, 11th-hour story.
I'm glad I'm not a woman. You've come a long way baby, and it's so embarrassing .
So this drunk lady in college was in the same room with a bunch of other students, a penis, and Kavanaugh. Took her six days to think about it?
What a farce!
I would almost be impressed if Republicans were proactive and ballsy enough to run a false-flag attempt to throw up so many ridiculous, obviously false accusations that any real one could be dismissed.
The fact that the Democrats are doing it this exact same way tells you with 100 percent clarity that they do NOT have one genuine accusation they could rest their case on.
Rcocean and mockturtle
Yes, that is the question. Are there enough sane people with enough moral courage to say this must stop? 20 years ago I wouldn’t have had any doubt. Now I do. I am not hopeful. We are watching Althouse weasel her conscience into compliance. I think America will go along and not realize it has crossed a Rubicon.
Lyndon Johnson was a renown flasher.
Yeah, he was pretty proud of Jumbo. Of course, with his being a Democrat, there would be no repercussions.
Is this really the way the US wants to select its leaders?
If I didn't know any better, I'd say this comedy is staged by Chinese Communist agents looking for a way to discredit the US democratic process to domestic audiences.
Or by rabid leftists who hold the US system in contempt (built upon a foundation of slavery and genocide, dontcha know), want to deal it a death blow, and are eager to replace it with something better. Probably rule by experts, with them being the self-proclaimed experts.
On second thought, this is exactly what's going on.
over the top bad
The phrase "over the top" originated in the First World War. America entered that conflict after Woodrow Wilson, who had won reelection eight months earlier using the slogan "He kept us out of war", asked Congress to declare war.
Wilson was the first progressive president, the man who resegregated the federal government, and the signer of the Sedition Act, which outlawed the use of "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the United States government, its flag, or its armed forces or that caused others to view the American government or its institutions with contempt..
During his second term, Wilson suffered a stroke. While he was incapacitated, his wife, his chief of staff, and journalist Louis Seibold fabricated an interview with Wilson to fool the country into thinking the president was in good health.
Seibold won a Pulitzer.
Kavanaugh has calendars!
I bet the Dems did not expect this twist...
Nothing checks out on these stories and they publish them anyway. Heaven help us.
I want the FBI to investigate whether RBG ever flashed her tits for beads at Mardi Gras.
The new accuser is different. She doesn't claim to be traumatized. That loses a lot of soap opera support. She may just be a slut.
Kavanaugh is much nicer than me and I only dated one girl at a time, so the story sounds wrong from the start.
Did it look like a mushroom?
Do any of these women have any evidence that any of this is true ?
Avenatti is horning in on Gloria Allred territory.
This is the last public hearing.
it seems odd that someone would yell Kavanaugh's last name but not hers.
At 35 years and 6 days, her memory is that someone yelled "Brett Kavanaugh just put his penis in Debbie’s face".
At 35 years 7 days, it'll be "Brett Kavanaugh put his penis in Debbie's face! This is almost as aggressive as he said he was towards Christine Blaisey last year!"
Putin and the Chinese must be laughing their asses off just waiting for us to fall apart. If it wasn't for the incredible strength, seriousness and hard work of our private sector and regular Americans, they would be right. Our political class does not deserve the right to rule us, and the chattering class does not deserve our ears.
“The only thing I could think of was turkey neck and turkey gizzards and I felt very depressed”
In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say
Six days of coaching!?
At one point, she said, a male student pointed a gag plastic penis in her direction.
...
She recalled remarking, “That’s not a real penis,”
So, it was the plastic one, right?
Ramirez acknowledged that there are significant gaps in her memories of the evening, and that, if she ever presents her story to the F.B.I. or members of the Senate, she will inevitably be pressed on her motivation for coming forward after so many years, and questioned about her memory, given her drinking at the party.
Great witness you got there.
The New Yorker has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident. Many did not respond to interview requests; others declined to comment, or said they did not attend or remember the party.
Shame you don't have any others.
In a statement, two of those male classmates who Ramirez alleged were involved in the incident, the wife of a third male student she said was involved, and three other classmates, Dino Ewing, Louisa Garry, and Dan Murphy, disputed Ramirez’s account of events: “We were the people closest to Brett Kavanaugh during his first year at Yale. He was a roommate to some of us, and we spent a great deal of time with him, including in the dorm where this incident allegedly took place. Some of us were also friends with Debbie Ramirez during and after her time at Yale. We can say with confidence that if the incident Debbie alleges ever occurred, we would have seen or heard about it—and we did not. The behavior she describes would be completely out of character for Brett. In addition, some of us knew Debbie long after Yale, and she never described this incident until Brett’s Supreme Court nomination was pending. Editors from the New Yorker contacted some of us because we are the people who would know the truth, and we told them that we never saw or heard about this.”
Wait a second, we do have witnesses! Six of them! And they categorically deny that anything happened.
The former friend who was married to the male classmate alleged to be involved, and who signed the statement, said of Ramirez, “This is a woman I was best friends with. We shared intimate details of our lives. And I was never told this story by her, or by anyone else. It never came up. I didn’t see it; I never heard of it happening.” She said she hadn’t spoken with Ramirez for about ten years, but that the two women had been close all through college, and Kavanaugh had remained part of what she called their “larger social circle.” In an initial conversation with The New Yorker, she suggested that Ramirez may have been politically motivated. Later, she said that she did not know if this was the case.
That sounds pretty definitive. I think we have enough to go forward with our "Kavanaugh is completely innocent" story.
That is the story you're going to publish, right?
Right?
I'd normally say that the Avenatti twitter thread is a sewer, but that is unfair to sewers.
Paul Zrimsek wins the thread at 9:13.
For 35 years Ms. Ramirez wasn't sure of Kavanaugh's role in this drunken college party. Then, somehow, the New Yorker learns of this alleged incident involving her and Kavanaugh and reaches out to her. How did the New Yorker come to learn of this alleged incident? What are Ms. Ramirez's politics? Has her social media presence been scrubbed? Inquiring minds want to know.
Drag a million in bitcoin through a Yale dorm and see what turns up.” Dave Begley.
This woman is a paid liar. According to the story, it took her six days to get her story down. I say six days of negotiating payment terms.
We're getting pretty close to watching the US Senate Judiciary Committee question a witness about bukkake. C-SPAN is exploring a partnership with PornHub.
She was a Soros society fellow in 04, if that suggests something.
Let's suppose this seat on the SCOTUS goes unfilled for some time (like 6 years). If a 9th Circuit Court opinion is appealed to the Supreme Court and the vote is 4-4, does the 9th Circuit opinion stand? If so, that might be the Democrat's end game? Fill up the SCOTUS docket with wacko rulings from liberal courts and hope for 4-4 ties?
Indeed, will Avenatti end up rescuing Kavanaugh’s nomination?
witch hunts and prudish reactions to sex-- Lefties bringing Puritanism back !
'Red Scare' has a whole new meaning. Arthur Miller call your office
The Ford letter is poorly written, even for someone with a PhD in psychology.
What does concern me is that we sane folk will ultimately be defeated by robots and other artificial intelligence controlled by the Left and all the firearms in our arsenals [if we had arsenals] would be to no avail. It's all rigged in their favor and not even the Second Amendment would help us rise up against the tyranny of the Deep State.
The Puritans didn't shrink from sex. They had huge families.
At least he's not gay!
"Kavanaugh has calendars!"
Jesus Brett, Your handwriting is atrocious.
Yeah, sorry. I can read it though. Point to an entry and I'll read it to you.
Okay. Right here. What does that say?
Where.
Right here.
Here?
No! Right here!
Oh that.
It looks like "God something...stunk... and washed..." No. "Got drunk and wa...something ending in Z?
It says "I got a trunk and packed for Juarez."
It does? Did you go to Mexico that month?
Um...no. Juarez was this guy who...a friend. He wanted to borrow my trunk...then I helped him pack. He had a ton of shit to do before he left so I packed his stuff for him...Juarez. Good guy. Too bad he died on that trip.
He died?
Yeah, um what about this other month here? You want me to read from that?
Not yet. I'm not clear on this entry yet. It looks more like it says, "Got drunk and waved my...something something...Ramirez."
No it doesn't.
Yes it does.
No it doesn't.
Pencil? Pen set? Oh shit...
I mean, your main source can't identify the man for sure. Six eyewitnesses categorically deny the story, and a close friend says she never heard the story before.
Can you really run a story this defamatory with such terrible sourcing?
Let me ask you a question. Who in this story is a) a witness to the events, and b) willing to say it was Kavanaugh with any confidence?
The answer is *not* Ramirez. Ramirez's first claim was that she couldn't identify the guy. Claiming it was Kavanaugh is her *second* story, after six days of coaching.
"Are there enough sane people with enough moral courage to say this must stop?"
There are plenty, but you need one who is on the side that's creating the disturbance. No one is there.
"At the Eleventh Hour Cafe
...you can make any allegation you want"
Clarence Thomas the Dems could safely go after. Hardly anyone identified with him. A Black conservative justice married to a White Woman, Blacks did not connect with.
Kavanaugh on the other hand is Mr. All American, Catholic, cute daughters, softball coach, mentors women, no prior scandals, establishment.
I wonder how he will appear at the hearing? What persona he will choose? Oliver North (patriotic), Clarence Thomas (high tech lynching), or Mr. Establishment (even handed)?
I've been waiting fir my beloved anarchy: I've had its bags packed for weeks now.
Agnes Moorehead and I are searching for YOUNG widowed females. To make the pain just POOF go away!
Young.
"At the Eleventh Hour Cafe
...you can make any allegation you want"
Excellent!
The Dems will demand that Ramirez be allowed to testify. Sadly, we will find out that Ramirez is in Fiji and is afraid of traveling by boat, airplane, car, railroad, horseback, bicycle, glider, motor scooter, skateboard, roller skates, hover board, stag coach, camel, donkey, mule, and dog sled. She will have to construct a makeshift raft, drift in it from Fiji to L.A., and walk from L.A to D.C. Gosh darnit, she won't be able to testify until, at the earliest, late November 2020. And if the Pacific currents are not favorable, it might not be until late November 2024.
If a 9th Circuit Court opinion is appealed to the Supreme Court and the vote is 4-4, does the 9th Circuit opinion stand?
The judgment stands. But it does not set any binding precedent. And for any major case, the Court may very well just hold the case open until it can come to a definitive decision.
Mind the gaps.
This type of behavior will stop when the costs out weigh the benefits.
Right now there are rarely costs to false accusations against Men.
It’s better than it was, but a long way from where it should be.
The Democrats confirmed Thomas.
Kavanaugh starting to look like another Ryan Bounds who could not get confirmed by the Republicans.
If a vote is 4-4 the lower court decision remains circuit precedent (if published).
The Democrats are trying to find the limits of their power. How far can they go without serious repercussions, even with the media providing cover?
"The Puritans didn't shrink from sex."
Then the sex wasnt too hot
Dems will demand that Ramirez be allowed to testify
Ramirez does not want to testify. Ford does not want to testify either. But that hasn't stopped her lawyers from exploiting her with the pretense that she does want to.
The real, actual persons involved in these things do not matter to the activist-lawyers. They are pawns to be used. Just look at how they abused Norma McCorvey in Roe.
That is no one's strategy however.
Maybe it wasn't a penis in her face, but Kavanaugh holding the head of a decapitated bishop.
Insert masturbation-slang involving the word 'bishop' here.
I am Laslo.
This is actually disgusting what the Democrats are doing. They just want to destroy Kavanaugh with anything and the truth doesn't matter. Just terrible people.
"I wonder how he will appear at the hearing? What persona he will choose? Oliver North (patriotic), Clarence Thomas (high tech lynching), or Mr. Establishment (even handed)?"
Win or lose, I hope he's defiant, and that he stands up for American due process, period. Let those who do not respect it vote accordingly. At least we will know who the wolves are. Trump will still get his pick eventually. Maybe two more.
@Laslo
Mulva??
All the women involved in this make me want to throw up. Because Kanenaugh is a girls basketball coach, now he’s suspected of being a pedo. Because he wants his clerks to look like professionals he’s a lech. Because he mentors young women he’s a dirty old man. No wonder men don’t want to get involved. My husband had four daughters that he coached, mentored, tutored, loved and supported, the Dems think he, like Kavanaugh, is some kind of monster. Obviously these women have daddy problems or just hate men for some reason. Destroying a loving, involved family man is disgusting. My family will be out voting in November and it won’t be for the Dems.
"Kavanaugh on the other hand is Mr. All American, Catholic, cute daughters, softball coach, mentors women, no prior scandals, establishment."
What if his daughters were fat and ugly? What do you mean by mentor women? You believe being a softball coach makes him a good judge? You don't like anti-establishment types. What are you afraid of?
“Why would he keep a calendar if he didn’t need an alibi? It's suspicious.”
Maybe it wasn't a penis in her face, but Kavanaugh holding the head of a decapitated bishop.
Or a freshly Planned fetus/offspring/baby. An unPerson. The other phallic objection.
So Ramirez’s story is already coming apart?
Althouse will believe it anyway.
Whatever happens, Trump will still get his pick is right.
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