Althouse: "I realized that everything that I had heard about President Trump and everything I believed about him from the mainstream media was a lie. Everything."

September 12, 2026

"I realized that everything that I had heard about President Trump and everything I believed about him from the mainstream media was a lie. Everything."

"I discovered a self-effacing man of superior intelligence, of empathy and compassion, with an encyclopedic grasp of the issues — and in molecular detail — and, most of all, a near reckless courage to challenge vested interests and official orthodoxies. I found a man who cared deeply about transparency in government, who believed in protecting free speech more than anything, and the entire United States Constitution."

173 comments:

planetgeo said...: Amen, brother. Preach it. It's the truth.; 9/12/26, 9:37 AM
Earnest Prole said...: He forgot to mention Great Leader’s manly physique.; 9/12/26, 9:46 AM
ChrisC said...: The media campaign against Trump is one for the ages. A big problem for them is that he will be gone in two years, can you sustain the negative campaign, the hate mongering, the lies on the next guy. Even lefties are going to have a hard time swallowing, "you know, actually, Marco Rubio is worse than Trump".; 9/12/26, 9:48 AM
Peachy+2 said...: The left call Trump a racist and a KKK.
He is not that at all.
Turns out it's the White Progressive / White Oprah left who are the actual racists.

The idiot left still buy the Russia Russia Russia lie.
Ignore Russia's mafia-like infusions of money to the Clintons. while she was Obama's secretary of State.; 9/12/26, 9:53 AM
bagoh20 said...: Also, normal sized hands.; 9/12/26, 9:54 AM
Peachy+2 said...: Trump's successful show The Apprentice - featured all sorts of Hollywood and entertainment d-listers. The show was mostly about winning and giving all the proceeds to charity.

What does Ugly vile un-funny Vile ugly Kathy Griffin do? As a former contestant on the show? Trump's bloody head. A spring board permission structure for the massive rage fueled psychosis that is the modern corrupt left.; 9/12/26, 9:56 AM
Rustygrommet said...: Earnest Prole said...
He forgot to mention Great Leader’s manly physique.

Yer kind of a idiot, aren't ya.; 9/12/26, 9:56 AM
Peachy+2 said...: Isn't it curious how the media have ZERO interest in Tim' Walz's pal - the assassin who killed a prominent democrat leader in Minnesota?
Where are the prison interviews?; 9/12/26, 10:04 AM
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...: You need a special skill to be a politician like RFK Jr, and that’s the ability to tell terrible lies and not feel any moral qualms about doing so.

They say vote for us or live with the lunacy. Great campaign argument: 'they're crazier than we are'.

Stunning lack of self awareness.

The Trumpapaloza convention drew a solid core of Trump supporters and party figures who attended, but attendance was widely characterized as lackluster relative to expectations and the venue size, with empty seats a recurring theme in coverage.; 9/12/26, 10:04 AM
Peachy+2 said...: The democrat party corruption bot shows up to - LIE.

Poor IEE(D) Democratic Loyalist.

Do tell us about AOC(D) and Mamdamni(D) laughing and smiling while the names of the dead were being solemnly honored on 9/11.

leftist jackass.; 9/12/26, 10:07 AM
bagoh20 said...: Cheryl Hines has described being disappointed when Trump won in 2016. She said he “didn’t feel like a seasoned politician,” She listened to country music and cried. She also recalled thinking she “wasn’t going to make it through these four years.”
She first met Trump after the July 2024 assassination attempt. In her memoir and subsequent interviews, she said the encounter was stressful; she broke out in hives afterward, which a doctor attributed to extreme stress.
In later interviews, she described the meeting more positively: He was “warm” and “genuine.”
He was “more interested in people than I expected.”
She had expected “a one-man show” but “he wasn’t like that at all.”
She called him a “strong leader” and “change maker.”
She said people in the administration “really care about this country” and are “working hard to do the things that they think will make the country better.”

So there is a cure for TDS, and it's simply getting to know the truth firsthand instead of listening to liars with TDS.; 9/12/26, 10:08 AM
Iman said...: You go get’em, earnie! Your regional sparkyisms are just delightful.; 9/12/26, 10:09 AM
bagoh20 said...: " Great campaign argument: 'they're crazier than we are'."

Of course that was never the argument, but it still beats:
"Vote for us. We're the craziest", and then go out and prove it every day.; 9/12/26, 10:12 AM
Peachy+2 said...: Bagoh - You are revealing clearly that TDS is based on... the LIES and manufactured outrage fed to people by the NYT and the Wapoo, NPR, PBS News, NBC, ABC, CNN etc..

yep.; 9/12/26, 10:12 AM
Jamie said...: The thing is, time after time people interacting with Trump - or people forced into the arms of Republicans - say these same things: I thought he/they would be stupid, mean-spirited, bigoted, but I was wrong.

I enjoy and seek out stories of political changers, as neo calls them (and herself). It strikes me that people who go from left to right are pleasantly surprised (that's not exactly the right phrase - it sounds as if they went to a buffet expecting half-warm tuna casserole and found a serviceable beef stroganoff instead) by what they find, whereas those few who go from right to left these days seem to describe their experience as a grudging "Well, I had no choice because I obviously couldn't stay on the side with Trump on it." They don't find warmth and welcome. They don't find people with an active interest in them and what they bring to the table. They find only "We hate Trump too! Let's form a coalition about it!" and *maybe* a little less pressure to submit to purity tests than those in authority on the left impose on their own.

Both sides use political changers as cudgels, or at least as evidence that their side is better. But the left seems to keep driving out its own who call for even tiny amounts of moderation, whereas the right keeps welcoming those people in. Maybe this tendency will ultimately be bad for conservativism, since it could mean that the conservative side gets pulled more leftward by the incorporation of leftish thinkers. But it *also* seems to me that an awful lot of those left-to-right changers, once their fears about the right are allayed, take a look at conservative principles and realize that they have a better track record than progressive ones, and so, themselves, get pulled a bit to the right.; 9/12/26, 10:15 AM
jim said...: Sure; 9/12/26, 10:22 AM
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...: RFK JR knows damn well how crazy Trump's government is, but it's his meal ticket.; 9/12/26, 10:22 AM
bagoh20 said...: I have friends and family that have met and worked with a lot of celebrities, especially in entertainment. 90% of the time they report that these people are much nicer than they expected. That says something about human nature and how we think about people we know about, but have never met. There is a negative feedback loop there and it's neither fair nor accurate.; 9/12/26, 10:25 AM
Ampersand said...: Trump can't possibly be nearly as bad as the cultural hegemons insist. But of course he has imperfect knowledge, and has harmful tendencies toward impulsiveness and narcissism. But we can't afford to wait around for Mr. Perfect. I'm not available. His policy instincts are necessary to start to overcome the dangerous momentum of 80 years of policies that have outlived their usefulness.; 9/12/26, 10:33 AM
gilbar said...: "..a self-effacing man of superior intelligence, of empathy and compassion, with an encyclopedic grasp of the issues.."

please compare and contrast with:
BJ Clinton
Barry O'Bama
Josie Biden

oh, and with Kammie Harris, Pete Butifuk, Bernie Sanders, AOC

for that mater, compare and contrast with:
George Bush, Mittens Romney, or that guy from Panama?
what was his name? you know! the one that fired the missiles on that Aircraft carrier, the guy that got his job because his daddy was an Admiral (who got HIS job because HIS daddy was an Admiral); 9/12/26, 10:37 AM
Gospace said...: A lot of people have met AOC- an d none have ever expressed the thought- "Gee, she's much smarter then I thought she was!"

Thousands more have met Hillary. None, not one, ever, has ever said "Gee, she's nicer and more pleasant then I thought she was!" In fact, quite the opposite. There are no volunteer secret service agents working her personal detail- they're all assigned.

The officers who served with the 2nd George Bush spoke out in support of him ass a person. The ones who served with John Kerry did quite the opposite.

Even compare the people who had dealings with much reviled Richard Nixon and LBJ. Which one comes across as a better person?

It's been pretty consistent through my life that liberals preach kindness towards the masses while treating individuals with disdain. Look at the life of Marx and Engels for examples. Horrible human beings.; 9/12/26, 10:45 AM
D.D. Driver said...: Yes! He is "sharp as a tack" behind the scenes just like Joe Biden! That's what I've been trying to tell you!; 9/12/26, 10:45 AM
NKP said...: It takes courage to change your mind.

Few dare to alienate family and friends of a lifetime.

We live in a time when half the country is enraged by the truth - when it is a mortal sin to discuss differences.

Trump and RFK, Jr. were not the likeliest of allies. Amazing things can happen when people are willing to talk - and listen.

America is lucky to have both of them.; 9/12/26, 10:46 AM
D.D. Driver said...: It was MEDIA LIES that Trump started a "6 week war." TDS. Behind the scenes: he didn't do it. He was so molecularly smart!; 9/12/26, 10:48 AM
Bob Boyd said...: Picture RFK Jr speaking at a Dem campaign event and trying to pretend to support that party and what it has become. I can't imagine it.; 9/12/26, 10:49 AM
n.n said...: Handmade tales.; 9/12/26, 10:51 AM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: If RFK is truly sober, he’s not making stuff. I believe that is his best assessment.; 9/12/26, 10:52 AM
Bob Boyd said...: "it's his meal ticket."

RFK Jr. is independently wealthy.; 9/12/26, 10:54 AM
Jaq said...: Well, he got the "reckless" part right.; 9/12/26, 10:54 AM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...: Stuff like this certainly tiggers our Proggy friends.; 9/12/26, 10:56 AM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...: “It was MEDIA LIES that Trump started a "6 week war."”

Ah, that hellish bloodbath…..; 9/12/26, 10:58 AM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: Trump’s weakness may be that he believes in action so much (as the primary factor in achieving success) that it can be difficult for him to say no to people who have access to him.; 9/12/26, 10:58 AM
Jaq said...: "Vote for us because Israel wants more wars" is not exactly the best thing to run on either, but that's our Donnie, who might be smart as a whip, but who puts Israel first, every time.

We will see how his plan for $20-$30 oil works out. One thing it would do is shut down most US production, and cost of extraction out of Venezuela is estimated to be in that range, but I am not as smart as Donnie, so I am sure there are many thiings we ordinary people don't understand, like how egging Saudi Arabia on into a war that is destroying its production facilities, who does it benefit to collapse Saudi Arabia? I will spot you the 'I.'

BTW, will all of these tankers getting hit in the Persian Gulf in the war that Donald J Trump —Super Genius, started, may well foul the desalination plants that keep the population of the Arab countries there alive. Who would benefit from that?; 9/12/26, 11:03 AM
Bob Boyd said...: RFK did a fine job of pointing out the ways the Dems have become the polar opposite of what they always claimed to be. Many Dem voters regurgitate Dem talking points without realizing that they themselves are now advocating positions opposite of what they always said they supported and believed.
Did the party actually change or did it just take off the mask?
Maybe a little of both. A new generation took over when Obama came in, a generation with more arrogance and less wisdom. They've made a mess.; 9/12/26, 11:05 AM
Dr Weevil said...: Cracker Emcee Refulgent (10:56am):
"our Proggy friends"? I know you mean Progressive, but I can't help thinking of Prognathous, as in Neanderthal.; 9/12/26, 11:06 AM
Bob Boyd said...: I'm glad I saw that speech. Thanks, Althouse.; 9/12/26, 11:09 AM
Big Mike said...: “Jamie said...

The thing is, time after time people interacting with Trump - or people forced into the arms of Republicans - say these same things: I thought he/they would be stupid, mean-spirited, bigoted, but I was wrong.”

Lot’s of people are stunned to discover that Republicans can speak in full sentences and do not drag their knuckles on the ground.; 9/12/26, 11:12 AM
bagoh20 said...: "please compare and contrast with:
BJ Clinton
Barry O'Bama
Josie Biden

oh, and with Kammie Harris, Pete Butifuk, Bernie Sanders, AOC

for that mater, compare and contrast with:
George Bush, Mittens Romney, or that guy from Panama?"

If you notice, not a single one of those Democrats had any accomplishments outside of politics. Never took any personal risks, and nearly all the Republicans had done one, the other, or both.

Democrats pick and poseurs and takers and Republicans pick doers and makers. Dems are style over substance. I'm not saying that Republicans are always great, but they are from a different system that rewards merit over B.S.; 9/12/26, 11:12 AM
Hombre said...: “A big problem for them is that he will be gone in two years ….” No problem. Think “ChimpyBushHitler.” The vitriol spews when the Gramscian Marxist destabilizing agenda is not being pursued. The leftmediaswine and their Democrat pets have no governing agenda. Calumny is their stock and trade. Trump is just a yummy target.; 9/12/26, 11:15 AM
bagoh20 said...: "Donnie, who might be smart as a whip, but who puts Israel first, every time."

Hitler used to complain that his critics were obsessed with protecting the Jews.; 9/12/26, 11:17 AM
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...: Team Trump & Netanyahu winning again.
Sheer incompetence is beyond belief.

If Harris had been president, this war would have never been started.; 9/12/26, 11:18 AM
Dr Weevil said...: Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ (10:24am) displays his own "Stunning lack of self awareness". It takes no special skill at all as a commenter "to tell terrible lies and not feel any moral qualms about doing so", just a total lack of shame. He does it dozens of times every day.

I'm still waiting for him to admit that he shamelessly plagiarized a Tweet 15 days ago, word for word, with no quotation marks or link. He could have claimed that it was a one-time lapse, made in haste, that he was going to add the quotation marks and link but unthinkingly hit 'publish' too soon. But he doesn't, because he knows that we would only have to find one or two more proven plagiarisms to prove it's a lie, so he just evades the issues and keeps on posting his warmed-over anti-Trump crap.

As for the midterm convention, I don't doubt that "attendance was widely characterized as lackluster" by his allies in propaganda (conveniently unnamed). They probably even have pictures of a half-empty arena. Of course, there are also pictures of a very full arena, taken during the event, so it's a safe bet that any pictures in which it's half-empty were taken before main events, when it was still filling up, or afterwards, when people were heading out. That's what propagandists do for on-street demonstrations.; 9/12/26, 11:18 AM
Christopher B said...: @Jamie, if you like reading change stories I'll suggest looking up Sasha Stone on Substack (Free Thinking through the Fourth Turning). She's as good as neo though with more emotion and less analysis. (Which reminds me I need to check out neo's blog again); 9/12/26, 11:28 AM
Political Junkie said...: I wish Booby could run for Pres in 2028 as an American loving D. As we know, that will not happen. Bobby and the Big Man from PA are hated more by Ds than Rs.; 9/12/26, 11:40 AM
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...: ‘𝘕𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘶𝘱𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘮𝘺 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘦.‘

It was always going to end this way… except it will get a whole lot worse. It will be interesting to see what goes first, the market or Trump.

The political spiral is evident for the republicans, support Trump or forgo any financial electoral support and that support will then go to another Trump fluffer.

This period of American history will be widely studied in the future. And for all the wrong reasons.; 9/12/26, 11:41 AM
Original Mike said...: "I realized that everything that I had heard about President Trump and everything I believed about him from the mainstream media was a lie. Everything."

Takes a honorable man to admit that. I have completely changed my opinion of RFK, Jr.; 9/12/26, 11:43 AM
Inga said...: “I have completely changed my opinion of RFK, Jr.”

Me too, but for the opposite reason.; 9/12/26, 11:46 AM
rehajm said...: Shill.; 9/12/26, 11:48 AM
Original Mike said...: "RFK JR knows damn well how crazy Trump's government is, but it's his meal ticket."

As if he needs a meal ticket.; 9/12/26, 11:51 AM
Peachy+2 said...: Bagoh wisely states:

"Democrats pick and poseurs and takers and Republicans pick doers and makers."

Fact check: True.; 9/12/26, 11:52 AM
Original Mike said...: Inga, RFK knows Trump; he has worked with him.
You have not.; 9/12/26, 11:52 AM
Peachy+2 said...: It's hilarious to read the left whine about meal tickets, after the Crook Joe family regime pocket stuffing.
after Act Blue, Learing Centers, Trillions spent on a train never built in Newscum's CA, and USAID fraud, the leftwing homeless drug addict scams for D-pocket stuffing. .. etc.. just scratching the corruption (D) surface here.
lolz.; 9/12/26, 11:55 AM
rehajm said...: …honestly I’ve found him compelling since back in the early river keeper days. It is strange to me to see both sides acting as if Trump is on the ticket when most two termers already smell of ben-gay by this point../; 9/12/26, 11:55 AM
Saint Croix said...: The Democrat party has gotten way more anti-democratic during the course of my lifetime. In 1980, Ted Kennedy ran in the Democrat primary against Jimmy Carter. Carter made no attempt to shut him out or keep him from running.

The Democrat party today routinely tries to remove people from ballots and attacks our right to vote. Colorado's attempt to remove Donald Trump from the ballot is an absolute fucking disgrace. Smacked down 9 to 0 by the Supreme Court.

And it wasn't limited to attacks on the Republicans! The Democrat party sabotaged Kennedy's candidacy at every turn. Unlike his uncle, Biden's party would not allow any competition in the primary. The health of the "leader" Biden was hidden from the public, like a ridiculous version of the old Soviets. The Democrat primary was a fraudulent election of an unsuitable dictator who could not give up his power.

So the Democrats in 2024 had no primary at all for their nominee. Just the fact that the Democrats had a secret cabal running the country, using a machine to fake Biden's signature, is like the plot out of a bad spy novel.

Every Democrat needs to acknowledge that Donald Trump is not Hitler. And they were wrong to call him Hitler. Start with that apology, before you come up with your new complaints.; 9/12/26, 11:58 AM
rehajm said...: She said he “didn’t feel like a seasoned politician”

…so for Cheryl and anyone who thinks like her let me help you- you have made a grave error your entire life. Professional politicians are mostly unproductive jerks with some communication skills. You want people who have achieved success organizing people and ideas and private capital much of their working lives. Polished politicians are just charmers. You have been duped…; 9/12/26, 12:02 PM
Dr Weevil said...: When I read the phrase "seasoned politician" I can't help thinking maybe there's something to be said for allowing cannibal feasts in America. We'd need to find some cannibals whose lack of pickiness about what they eat goes beyond mere willingness to eat human flesh. Most cannibals wouldn't touch politician meat, no matter how well cooked and seasoned.; 9/12/26, 12:07 PM
rehajm said...: …brining helps weevil…; 9/12/26, 12:09 PM
Saint Croix said...: "37 hours after President Biden took the oath of office, he ordered Facebook and Instagram to remove my accounts."

It's shocking. Joe Biden was the worst president of my lifetime. By far. It's not even close. Silencing his Democrat opponent and arresting his Republican one. Hall of Infamy for this fucker. Wilson and Biden, 1 and 2, urine and the shit. And not in a good way.

None of the Trump-haters have nice things to say about Biden. Have you noticed? He doesn't exist for them anymore. Odds are high he will be a no-show at the 2028 convention. At best, Joe Biden will be speaking from his hospital room, via Zoom, in a heavily edited video. No live speaking for Joe. And this will not be a prime time slot, either.; 9/12/26, 12:22 PM
james said...: Erenest P. and Kaka demonstrating that they have no substantive response for the now multiple accounts of former democrats and still politically liberal Americans interacting with Trump and finding him to be 170 degrees from the media's and the left's caricature of him. So they resort to snark or attacks on the witness's veracity and character.

Try making an actual argument.; 9/12/26, 12:24 PM
Freder Frederson said...: “I have completely changed my opinion of RFK, Jr.”

Not me. He was an idiot conspiracy theorist before, and still is now.; 9/12/26, 12:26 PM
Dr Weevil said...: On the subject of people we haven't changed our minds about, speak of the devil! Here's Freder Frederson.; 9/12/26, 12:30 PM
Peachy+2 said...: OT: at Insty - Nice post about Bill Maher explaining actual history as it pertains to Gaza and Israel and the actual conflict.
Smashes a lot of the left's and Tuq'r revisionist history LIES..; 9/12/26, 12:31 PM
Original Mike said...: "If Harris had been president, this war would have never been started."

And Iran would have a nuclear bomb.; 9/12/26, 12:32 PM
FullMoon said...: Trump eliminated boogaloo boys for Inga.; 9/12/26, 12:32 PM
Original Mike said...: Has Freder ever changed his mind about anything? Doubt it.; 9/12/26, 12:33 PM
Dr Weevil said...: Neither his own nor anyone else's, Original Mike.; 9/12/26, 12:34 PM
Howard said...: Yeah, so he's marginally better than the brain dead Biden and the wet brained Kamala. Yippee.; 9/12/26, 12:37 PM
Saint Croix said...: "It's about common sense and commonism"

he didn't really swing that "u" that you need for "communism"

"I don't want to say communism, so I'm going to accuse them of commonism."

"What the hell is commonism?"

"They are cheap, unrefined, and second-rate."

I mean, it sounds like a millionaire complaining about the rabble. Are you sure that's the word you want to use? Commonism? You're making new words up at the podium?; 9/12/26, 12:37 PM
Saint Croix said...: Not me. He was an idiot conspiracy theorist before, and still is now.

Freder is a Biden man. You can tell. You love the old schmuck, amirite?; 9/12/26, 12:40 PM
Original Mike said...: "His policy instincts are necessary to start to overcome the dangerous momentum of 80 years of policies that have outlived their usefulness."

This.

I changed my own mind about Trump. I voted for him very grudgingly in 2016; almost didn't vote at all. I enthusiastically voted for him the next two elections.; 9/12/26, 12:42 PM
Wince said...: It's the feigned ignorance Trump's opponents use to build a narrative that I find revealing. Example above: "Empty seats." Like these MSM people have never been to a political convention. During most of the event, delegates are mingling and politicking on the concourse areas. And that's during on-year conventions. All the networks, including FoxNews, talked over most of the speakers.

Trump even kidded about this during his speech telling people "Don't go to the bathroom while I'm speaking. The fake news media will focus on your empty chair while you're gone."; 9/12/26, 1:00 PM
FullMoon said...: War be over soon. left can get back to pedophilia obsession and lies `; 9/12/26, 1:01 PM
john mosby said...: Junkie: "I wish Booby could run for Pres in 2028 as an American loving D."

Best. Typo. Ever. CC, JSM; 9/12/26, 1:08 PM
Earnest Prole said...: Idiocracy demands Trump be either Worse Than Hitler (Literally) or The Greatest President Since Lincoln (And Probably Ever). That rhetoric tickles the amygdala of 15 percent of the population on either side of the political spectrum. You know exactly who those people are on the Left but don’t recognize yourself on the Right.; 9/12/26, 1:14 PM
traditionalguy said...: As a follower of Politics for. 65 years I can tell you that everything Bobby, Jr told us in that speech was perfectly the way it actually was.

DJT bringing him in to speak is a great good.thing.; 9/12/26, 1:30 PM
Jamie said...: "None of the Trump-haters have nice things to say about Biden."

That's what I was trying to say about right-to-left political changers: they, like their counterparts moving in the opposite direction, feel that something (the existence of Trump, in their case - or these days the existence of Israel) has forced them out of their political home, but in contrast to the left-to-right people, they don't actually seem to like where they have ended up.

The left-to-right changers do.

Above, inga says she's changed her opinion about RFKJr, because he had the temerity to say that Trump is not the bogeyman she believes he is (in fact, he seems to think pretty well of Trump, having now worked with him - and in other places he's said the same about the members of the administration). What was her opinion of RFKJr before? Did she think, perhaps, that he's misguided on vaccines (she's a nurse, after all, and lots of us think he's misguided in some areas) but generally tried to tell the truth as well as he knows it, and now she thinks he's lying? Or did she use to think he was a generally sane person and now thinks he's insane? Or did she use to think he was a person of general goodwill and now she thinks he's actively malevolent?

Does anyone believe she's has a positive feeling about him since his apostasy of 2024?; 9/12/26, 1:30 PM
Saint Croix said...: Idiocracy demands Trump be either Worse Than Hitler (Literally) or The Greatest President Since Lincoln (And Probably Ever).

If he

frees Cuba

or

frees Iran

or

brings peace in the Ukraine

he will be pretty high, definitely top 10

unless we have a big AI incident in 2027 or 2028, in which case he'll get blamed for it.; 9/12/26, 1:36 PM
lonejustice said...: Trump's answer to socialism is to give everyone in America $5,000 if the Republicans win in November. That's what socialists do. They give money to people for not working.
And speaking of other lies, where is my $2,000 check that Trump promised me because of how successful his tariffs were? I'm still waiting .....; 9/12/26, 1:37 PM
gilbar said...: "..What was her opinion of RFKJr before?.."
well, Igna is ALWAYS claiming that she can read people's minds..
let me try to read hers..

her opinion of RFKJr before was that he sensibly opposed Trump.
her new opinoin is that he foolisly supports Trump.
Every Thing you want to know about Igna can be answered in one word
TRUMP; 9/12/26, 1:49 PM
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...: Personal Grift is Trump’s single policy foreign and domestic. Everything else is just noise.

What explains Trump’s enduring appeal? Two things: opportunism and permission.

Opportunism for those who see in him a route to wealth, power and political advantage, a license for greed, exploitation and right-wing extremism.

Permission for those who feel angry, abandoned, fearful or nihilistic about the world and their place in it.

The first group knows exactly what it is doing. Much of the second does not.

That will be Trump’s true legacy: not that he created the worst instincts in America, but that he legitimized them, emboldened them and gave them power.; 9/12/26, 1:50 PM
Aggie said...: Who did you copy this from?; 9/12/26, 1:52 PM
Michael Fitzgerald said...: "where is my $2,000 check that Trump promised me because of how successful his tariffs were?"

Here it is, moron. Right here where you libtards left it after opposing them. Death To America Democrat Party members are simply insufferable assholes and braindead anti-American morons. You fought the tariffs tooth and nail, then have the fucking nerve to complain that you didn't get the benefit from them.
https://www.google.com/search?q=did+trump+remove+the+original+tariffs+that+he+proposed&rlz=1CAGXWE_enUS1189US1189&oq=did+trump+remove+the+original+tariffs+that+he+proposed&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTE0NDE4ajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&source=chrome.ob&ie=UTF-8; 9/12/26, 1:52 PM
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...: One would think an administration should be able to run on its policies and, more importantly, on the results those policies have produced. If its record is genuinely strong, voters should not need a $5,000 payment to be persuaded to recognize it.

Offering a cash “dividend” to keep voters in line is not a substitute for defending that record; it is an admission that the record may not be enough. That may be one way to campaign in a midterm election, but it is hardly what anyone would call running on your record.; 9/12/26, 2:09 PM
Earnest Prole said...: Cuba, Iran, Ukraine: 95 percent of Americans couldn’t find them on a map and couldn’t give a flying fuck what happens there.; 9/12/26, 2:14 PM
Lazarus said...: The truth is somewhere between the best and the worst that's been said about Trump. But Kennedys are used to having the praise piled on thickly.

How focused President Trump is depends on how well-defined the issue or problem is. Without a clear objective, he can get lost in the twittering weeds.

In that, he's not so different from other presidents. There's focus and energy at the beginning of the term. Things get hazier and energy dissipates over the course of a presidency.; 9/12/26, 2:18 PM
Iman said...: “Yeah, so he's marginally better than the brain dead Biden and the wet brained Kamala. Yippee.”

Sad take, Howard. Trump’s arguably the best since Reagan. On the bright side, you’ll always have that absolute genius Healy there in Massholia to keep you toadlickers in line. 😉; 9/12/26, 2:25 PM
Lazarus said...: Bill Kristol, the Lincoln Project & Co. seem to have blended effortlessly and uncomplainingly into the Democrat camp. They may even have some good words for Biden.; 9/12/26, 2:28 PM
lonejustice said...: Trump's way of fighting Democratic Socialism is to give everyone in America free money, even though his $5,000 checks to all of us would add $1.5 trillion dollars to our national debt. But hey, that's peanuts, compared to the $15 trillion dollars in nation debt that Trump's Big Beautiful Budget Bill is going to cost us. I'm so old that I remember when Republicans were in favor of balanced budgets (they used to even talk about a Constitutional Amendment to require it, but you never hear that talk from Trump or MAGA), and when they were opposed to socialism and increasing our national debt. Trump and MAGA are in favor of socialism and plunging us further and further into debt. Go figure.; 9/12/26, 2:30 PM
james said...: I receive much solace from the fact that the same idiots who repeatedly tell me Musk is a buffoon who doesn't know what he is doing or is a con artist also insist the Trump is a fool or a con artist.; 9/12/26, 2:56 PM
Earnest Prole said...: “They may even have some good words for Biden.”

Kristin endorsed Mamdani.; 9/12/26, 2:59 PM
Big Mike said...: “Original Mike said...

Has Freder ever changed his mind about anything?”

Does Fredo have a mind to change? If you respond in the affirmative, what is the proof?; 9/12/26, 3:07 PM
Peachy+2 said...: The violent neo-Nazi democratic-Socialists (Communists) have their hooks in your high schoolers.

See here.; 9/12/26, 3:27 PM
bagoh20 said...: I was very critical of Trump back in 2016. Trump's performance, and even more the Democrats' have moved me pretty far politically. I said this back in Oct. 2016 on this blog when I was a lifelong Democrat.

"I can't stand Trump, yet I feel forced to vote for him, to separate my personal dislike for the man from the absolutely uninspiring pragmatism of choosing a loose cannon over one securely aimed at my own ship. I do not however have a problem with others who refuse to vote for an obvious douche bag who offends most of their sensibilities. I think they are making a mistake and helping Hillary, but it is of the most forgivable kind, usually seriously considered and struggled with. It's very unfortunate that we are forced to come to Trump rather him making himself more electable by holding his tongue and avoiding unforced errors. It would have been so easy for him to have EARNED 10% more support right now without sacrificing anything. Much easier than expecting millions to ignore their heart-felt, lifelong principles of decency and respect."; 9/12/26, 3:43 PM
Jim at said...: *It was MEDIA LIES that Trump started a "6 week war." *

Double Dumas wants Iran to get a nuke ... just so he can blame Trump for not preventing it.; 9/12/26, 3:43 PM
Dr Weevil said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 9/12/26, 4:09 PM
rhhardin said...: I had no trouble with Trump. I'd been listening to him as a guest on Imus for years. Imus gets so much more out of his guests than their real employer does that they should have made him pay.; 9/12/26, 4:12 PM
n.n said...: Trump is a born again conservative-adjacent Republican.; 9/12/26, 4:14 PM
Earnest Prole said...: Kristol.; 9/12/26, 4:16 PM
lonejustice said...: MAGA has already drunk the Kool-Aid, so facts no longer matter to them. But for the rest of us: The U.S. Treasury has borrowed $155 billion dollars EVERY SINGLE MONTH of this year, and is now paying more that $24 billion dollars EVERY SINGLE WEEK in interest on our national debt. Let that sink in for a minute.; 9/12/26, 4:20 PM
Original Mike said...: "Let that sink in for a minute."

Another lefty discovers the deficit.; 9/12/26, 4:32 PM
Dr Weevil said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 9/12/26, 4:35 PM
Dr Weevil said...: bagoh2o (3:43pm):
I would never have said "I can't stand Trump", because my expectations for politicians are very low, but I certainly voted for him only and entirely because he wasn't Hillary. She scared the Hell out of me. I actually thought Trump might appoint his (older) sister to the Supreme Court! It didn't take long to figure out that he was much better than merely adequate. I wish I could remember what precipitated that realization.

I remember exactly when I decided to turn Republican, though it took a few weeks to get around to changing my registration. It was a week or two into the Carter administration, when our president referred to citizens of two friendly nations as AY-rabs and EYE-talians. Yes, I know he did far worse, but that was the turning point.

Finally, you all may be amused to know that a few years ago I had a boss - headmaster of a private school in Northern Virginia - who told the faculty that he'd never knowingly hired a Republican. I said "I hate to break it to you, but I've been a registered Republican for . . . let's see . . . coming up on 43 years". He was non-plussed.; 9/12/26, 4:38 PM
Eva Marie said...: The Democrats would have done themselves a world of good to let the democratic process go forward and not stymied RFK’s run for the Presidency in 2024. Missed opportunity. He would have lost but he would have invigorated the Party. And then when he joined the Trump cabinet, build bridges. Another missed opportunity.; 9/12/26, 4:45 PM
Jim at said...: *Let that sink in for a minute.*

Instead of going off-topic and screaming about the deficit (and Trump), maybe you could contact your Iowa congress critters instead. You do know they're in charge of the budget, right?

I mean, you've claimed numerous times you used to be some hotshot GOP consultant. I'm sure they'd listen to someone like you.; 9/12/26, 5:12 PM
lonejustice said...: Original Mike said...
"Let that sink in for a minute."
Another lefty discovers the deficit.
__________________________
Now if only Trump and MAGA can discover the deficit, instead of supporting giving away trillions of dollars in free money like the socialists, and plunging our nation into trillions and trillions of new debt to try to get MAGA politicians elected. A pox on both political parties, but especially on Trump and MAGA, because they now control the Presidency, the Senate, the House of Representatives, and the US Supreme Court. MAGA controls everything. And this is why there will be a bloodbath in the mid-terms. Trump and MAGA are entirely responsible for high inflation, high gasoline prices, high diesel prices, high grocery prices, high beef prices, the War against Iran, high military prices, high medical insurance prices, high homeowner's insurance prices, high property taxes, high everything. IT'S THE ECONOMY YOU STUPID MAGA PEOPLE!! It is now pejorative to say that any political party is WOKE, but Trump and MAGA need to get WOKE about the economy, or they will be responsible for the bloodbath in November. Of course, after the bloodbath, they will never accept any responsibility whatsoever. They will just blame it all on something or someone else. Just like they always do. Pathetic.; 9/12/26, 5:29 PM
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...: There is a slang term in Washington DC “stove piping” - It refers in getting ideas to a decision-maker, e.g., the President, while avoiding the policy process, the advice of professionals, and the general system for making decisions. Lobbyists who can stovepipe to a politician are a hot property in Washington DC - Which is why ex-senior-staff, and former politicians can make a lot of money lobbying.

There was a lot of stove piping going on during the George Bush administration and many of its worst decisions resulted from stove piping. But the Trump administration, particularly his second administration has been an absolute festival of stove piping by a huge variety of single issue cranks many of them are inside his own administration, indeed inside the White House. Almost every bad decision that has been taken by the Trump administration either involves stove piping, or yes men… And Netanyahu succeeded in stove piping the whole Iran attack plan.

One aspect of all this stove piping is that ramifications and consequences tend to be ignored by those who are promoting a particular idea, and they are not given an opportunity to be presented because the stove piped idea avoids the policy process that would raise these problems; of course you’re assuming level of complexity that Donald Trump would be able to understand or have the attention span to consider.; 9/12/26, 5:35 PM
Iman said...: a pig in a poke?
lonejustice misunderstood
gave the pig a “poke”; 9/12/26, 5:41 PM
ForestwithouttreeS said...: If former heroin addict RFK Jr. says it then it must be true; 9/12/26, 5:56 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: Is there any reason to listen to a Democrat or GOPe?

How was Hillary or Yeb! any better than Trump. Biden hated the country and GOPe helped him more than they did Trump. Bush 43 was all smiles when Biden was elected. So was Mitch the Bitch McConnell (now missing presumed dead in Kentucky).

Harris? A complete clown. Who hadnt won a primary.; 9/12/26, 6:04 PM
Eva Marie said...: “If former heroin addict RFK Jr.”
Keep saying it. Just oroves that the party of compassion is pure bs. Yes he was an addict and he beat hus addiction. He soeaks movingly about that and is an inspiration to former addicts and those who are struggling with addiction.; 9/12/26, 6:04 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: What funny about GOPe and the liberal/left is how similar they are. Both are liars. The GOPe says "Country before Party" but what they mean is "Uniparty over country". The Democrats say they are patriotic but they care nothing for the USA, they hate their opposition. Their loyalty is to the party. That is their country.; 9/12/26, 6:05 PM
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...: Dr Weevil writes: "𝘐 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘯𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥 "𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯'𝘵 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘛𝘳𝘶𝘮𝘱", 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘺 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘭𝘰𝘸, 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘐 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘷𝘰𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘩𝘪𝘮 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘺 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘴𝘯'𝘵 𝘏𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘢𝘳𝘺."

I think there’s a fair point in that comment: for some voters, opposition to Hillary Clinton was sufficient reason to vote for Trump in 2016, without necessarily being enthusiastic about Trump himself. And in 2024, some Trump voters had another reason for expecting a familiar outcome: they believed his second term would reproduce what they regarded as the successes of his first.

The second term’s apparent chaos may reflect not just Trump’s instincts but the changed institutional environment around him. Whereas first-term advisers sometimes pushed back and provided corrective friction, the second administration was built more deliberately around loyalty.

That shift likely contributed to greater volatility and policy incoherence: when officials are chosen mainly to execute the president’s wishes rather than challenge them, fewer internal checks stand between impulse and policy. It does not explain every problem, but it is essential to comparing the two terms.; 9/12/26, 6:09 PM
Eva Marie said...: But keep making fun of him. You guys are such hypocrites.; 9/12/26, 6:09 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: "Hitler used to complain that his critics were obsessed with protecting the Jews."

What a weird historical example to use. Stalin and communists complained for over 35 years that their critics were fascists, wreckers, or counter-revolutionaries. And murdered them, or put them in the Gulag.

Hitler rarely attacked those inside Germany after 1934 as being "Juden lovers".

This tactic is almost entirely of the left. But then it makes sense someone would bring up Hitler and ascribe it to "Nazis". That's because 'muricans never really got upset at the millions murdered by the communists. what upset them was the Jews being mistreated. And only them.; 9/12/26, 6:12 PM
Eva Marie said...: “And in 2024, some Trump voters had another reason for expecting a familiar outcome: they believed his second term would reproduce what they regarded as the successes of his first.”
No. In 2024 people voted for Trump so he would close the borders. The Democrats kept saying it couldn’t be done. They lied. Trump closed the borders on day 1. You folks ought to look at your party and admit that they lied.; 9/12/26, 6:12 PM
Eva Marie said...: The idea that anyone would bring up a former addiction to disparage someone. What bs.; 9/12/26, 6:14 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: One can wear a "Stalin is my Hero" T-shirt in 2026, and no one will say boo. In fact, you may get applauded by some 'murican. But wear another mass-killer, Hitler, on your T-shirt and you will be arrested or attacked.

The stupidity is strong in this one.; 9/12/26, 6:14 PM
boatbuilder said...: "And speaking of other lies, where is my $2,000 check that Trump promised me because of how successful his tariffs were? I'm still waiting."

Michael Fitzgerald already hit this one over the centerfield wall, but the $2000 from tariffs was cancelled by Justice Roberts.

The same guy who saved Obamacare by declaring that the penalty for not buying health insurance was a "tax," and thus within Congress' power to tax, rather than an improper and unconstitutional effort to impose a fine under the Commerce Clause.

I'm still waiting for the $2500 that Obama promised me. It would make a very small dent in the tens of thousands of dollars Obamacare has cost me.; 9/12/26, 6:16 PM
lonejustice said...: boatbuilder said...
"And speaking of other lies, where is my $2,000 check that Trump promised me because of how successful his tariffs were? I'm still waiting."
Michael Fitzgerald already hit this one over the centerfield wall, but the $2000 from tariffs was cancelled by Justice Roberts.
--------------------------------------------
You are a certified moron. It was Trump's own appointees to the Supreme Court who ruled against Trump's tariffs. I learned to read in the First Grade. You need to go back to grade school.; 9/12/26, 6:26 PM
Eva Marie said...: 2026 Vote Republican.; 9/12/26, 6:28 PM
Achilles said...: Earnest Prole said...

Cuba, Iran, Ukraine: 95 percent of Americans couldn’t find them on a map and couldn’t give a flying fuck what happens there.

Why did US industrial capacity get cored out and moved to China?

Many Americans are retards and don't know why things happen. That is how bell curves work and not really an excuse for holding stupid opinions.

I don't really expect an answer from you just giving you a chance to figure out why these places and what Trump is trying to are important.

But you have proven which side of the bell curve you are on often enough.; 9/12/26, 6:42 PM
Original Mike said...: "That's because 'muricans never really got upset at the millions murdered by the communists. what upset them was the Jews being mistreated. And only them."

"Mistreated", right…
You're really something.; 9/12/26, 6:46 PM
Peachy+2 said...: Biden and the dems waste our money. most of it fraud.
Need more DOGE.; 9/12/26, 7:04 PM
gilbar said...: "..what upset them was the Jews being mistreated.."

Every Time i think rcola has reached the bottom rung of his descent in Joo Hating Insanity..
i read Another one of his posts..

back in 1944.. Some People did Something..
you're a sad pathic person rc.. I feel for you, and wish you get some help; 9/12/26, 7:16 PM
lonejustice said...: Peachy+2 said...
Biden and the dems waste our money. most of it fraud.
Need more DOGE.
-------------
Get a clue. It was Trump/MAGA who did away with DOGE.; 9/12/26, 7:21 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: "you're a sad pathic person rc.. I feel for you, and wish you get some help"

Thanks. I'm glad someone cares. I've gotta wife and daughter, but they don't type on the 'net.; 9/12/26, 7:28 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: As usual, if you try to have one rule for everyone, it causes some people to get very upset. Because one group has to be treated differently. They're special. Their tragedies are more tragic than everyone elses. Their needs are more important than everyone elses. And if they do anything bad, its somehow OK, unlike everyone else's.

No doubt Meade will object.; 9/12/26, 7:32 PM
Achilles said...: RCOCEAN II said...

This tactic is almost entirely of the left. But then it makes sense someone would bring up Hitler and ascribe it to "Nazis". That's because 'muricans never really got upset at the millions murdered by the communists. what upset them was the Jews being mistreated. And only them.

You need to look in the mirror. You aren't this retarded.

What we are doing in Iran has nothing to do with what Israel wants.

This all goes back to the early 1900's and what the British and french did to the middle east and control over the region.

But do keep making yourself look like a dumbass whinging about the joooooooossss controllign everything. Lloyd's of London needs stupid gullible people looking the wrong way.; 9/12/26, 7:34 PM
Achilles said...: And for the record I think Britain formally created Israel specifically to cause all of this division and to keep people focused on the jooooooooooosss.

That doesn't mean it is OK to kill everyone in Israel.; 9/12/26, 7:36 PM
Achilles said...: lonejustice said...

boatbuilder said...
"And speaking of other lies, where is my $2,000 check that Trump promised me because of how successful his tariffs were? I'm still waiting."
Michael Fitzgerald already hit this one over the centerfield wall, but the $2000 from tariffs was cancelled by Justice Roberts.
--------------------------------------------
You are a certified moron. It was Trump's own appointees to the Supreme Court who ruled against Trump's tariffs. I learned to read in the First Grade. You need to go back to grade school.

LOL lj you just look stupid every time you post.

Romney Republicans are the dumbest most pathetic political tribe in the country. Nobody likes you.; 9/12/26, 7:39 PM
Eva Marie said...: lonejustice, DOGE is still going strong. Hiw do you think all the corruption is being found.; 9/12/26, 7:49 PM
Original Mike said...: "That doesn't mean it is OK to kill everyone in Israel."

I'm sure RC doesn't want to kill *everyone* in Israel. Just the Jews.; 9/12/26, 7:59 PM
Dr Weevil said...: gilbar (7:16pm) calls RCOCEAN II "a sad pathic person". Although my attitude to these two is normally "Why can't they both lose?", I'm a language pedant and can't resist pointing out that gilbar probably meant "pathetic". "Pathic" is an old-fashioned term for a gay guy who' likes being a "bottom", to put it politely. The fact that RCOCEAN II responds by claiming a wife and daughter leaves me unable to tell whether he thought gilbar meant "pathetic" or "pathic".; 9/12/26, 8:08 PM
bbface21 said...: "I discovered a self-effacing man"

I had to ask Google AI if the term "self-effacing" has changed in the last few months.

PS: I'm Libertarian. I hate everyone.; 9/12/26, 8:14 PM
narciso said...: Sociopathic psychopathic; 9/12/26, 8:17 PM
Eva Marie said...: “I'm Libertarian. I hate everyone.”
You can hate everyone and still vote Republican 2024; 9/12/26, 8:24 PM
Eva Marie said...: RCOCEAN does not hate Jews. He is doing this for effect; 9/12/26, 8:26 PM
Eva Marie said...: BTW, no matter who you hate, vote Republican November 2024; 9/12/26, 8:29 PM
Original Mike said...: "RCOCEAN does not hate Jews. He is doing this for effect"

Why do you coddle this bastard? Of course he enjoys triggering outrage, but I challenge you to defend the proposition that he does not hate Jews. I know of no supporting evidence to that claim.; 9/12/26, 8:41 PM
Eva Marie said...: RCOCEAN, help me out over here.; 9/12/26, 8:49 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: Like I said, there's only one group that generates this sort of response. Even on Althouse, which is basically a non-political blog. And if it is "political" is fairly american-centric.

But utter the word "Israel" or "Jews" and anything other than hysterical praise, results in a mob of censors and internet commissars attacking you and wanting to shut you down. "How dare you" is their attitude.

Odd. I could smear and attack any other group in the world in the most unfair way, and I would get 1/100 the pushback, just for saying that Jews aren't special and better than everyone else.

What's even more strange, is almost every 'murican is on their side. So why do they get so upset? I dunno. You tell me.; 9/12/26, 8:52 PM
Eva Marie said...: “I could smear and attack any other group in the world“
So you’re saying you’re smearing Jews?; 9/12/26, 8:56 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: So, "Original Mike" what so much passion? Even on Althouse I get zero support. Notice anyone uttering a peep of support for my position? No. There is none. They praise Israel and whatever it does. Or they stay silent, because they don't care.

I think you can relax. Its just rcocean. One man on the internet.; 9/12/26, 8:57 PM
Eva Marie said...: Attacking and disagreeing with is obe thing, smearing implies lying about. Unhelpful.; 9/12/26, 8:57 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: And Eva. Im interested in the USA, my country, supporting evil actions in the middle east. And I want it to stop. I have no interest in proving to fakes that I don't do this or that. .; 9/12/26, 8:59 PM
RCOCEAN II said...: Adios. have a nice Saturday night. And Sunday.; 9/12/26, 8:59 PM
Earnest Prole said...: “Many Americans are retards and don't know why things happen.”

Like it’s my fault your fellow citizens are dopey.; 9/12/26, 9:02 PM
Original Mike said...: "But utter the word "Israel" or "Jews" and anything other than hysterical praise, results in a mob of censors and internet commissars attacking you and wanting to shut you down."

Oh, bullshit.; 9/12/26, 9:04 PM
Eva Marie said...: I understand the argument that Israel has undue influence on US policy. I think it’s easy to make that argument without calling people Jew haters. Just like I think it’s easy to make the argument that Israel isn’t committing genocide without calling people Jew haters. How is that helpful.; 9/12/26, 9:17 PM
Eva Marie said...: Oops, I meant it’s easy to refute the argument that Israel has undue influence on the US without calling people Jew haters.; 9/12/26, 9:18 PM
Original Mike said...: Eva, he referred to the Holocaust as the Jews being "mistreated". Do you really need a roadmap to understand where he's coming from?; 9/12/26, 9:20 PM
Eva Marie said...: that was said for provocation . . . like Achilles saying we should deport everyone who disagrees with him to Afghanistan.; 9/12/26, 9:31 PM
Original Mike said...: I ask again, what have you got invested in this guy?
Are you his mother?; 9/12/26, 9:46 PM
Eva Marie said...: lol
I call ‘em as I see ‘em.; 9/12/26, 9:50 PM
Original Mike said...: Well, he sure's got you fooled.

""But utter the word "Israel" or "Jews" and anything other than hysterical praise, results in a mob of censors and internet commissars attacking you and wanting to shut you down."

Look at his over the top protestations of his innocence. Nobody here is demanding hysterical praise of the Jews or Israel. It's bullshit.; 9/12/26, 9:58 PM
Peachy+2 said...: Prole - Only you have it all figured out. /pffft.
AS for RC Cola - he hates Israel, buys all the lies, and feelz all the paranoia.; 9/12/26, 10:10 PM
Earnest Prole said...: He’s just asking questions

about whether Jews have a right to exist.

Cut him some slack, it’s not like he’s made a final decision, only looking for solutions.; 9/12/26, 10:16 PM
Eva Marie said...: No, he’s not doing that.; 9/12/26, 10:42 PM
Original Mike said...: "I understand the argument that Israel has undue influence on US policy."

He's doing much more than that.

I've been watching the Tom Hanks WW2 documentary. As it happens, tonight I'm watching the episode on the Holocaust. And there's Hitler in the front of the Reichstag blaming the Jews for FDR's entry into the war.

Some tropes never die, do they?; 9/12/26, 11:21 PM
Eva Marie said...: What’s important is to defeat the argument.; 9/12/26, 11:24 PM
Original Mike said...: Really, the man denies historical facts and you're going to argue him to a satisfactory conclusion?; 9/12/26, 11:28 PM
Eva Marie said...: IEE denies historical facts and you guys argue with him.; 9/13/26, 12:04 AM
Eva Marie said...: Look, RCOCEAN makes his arguments about not supporting Israel and then he throws in some red meat and you all call him a Jew hater and the rest of what he says stands. And he does that over and over again. I; 9/13/26, 12:09 AM
Eva Marie said...: I support Israel snd I support the creation of Israel. Whatever the motivations of Britain were - and I don’t believe they were venal - the creation of Israel was a good thing. It’s defensible on its own merits. It’s not necessary (in my opinion) to shout Jew hater every time someone makes the argument that Israel shouldn’t exist iot that the US shouldn’t support Israel. But your mileage may vary.; 9/13/26, 12:24 AM
Original Mike said...: "It’s not necessary (in my opinion) to shout Jew hater every time someone makes the argument that Israel shouldn’t exist iot that the US shouldn’t support Israel."

That that is all he is doing is the lie you tell yourself. Why you do this, IDK.; 9/13/26, 12:34 AM
Eva Marie said...: My proof is - that whenever I say it, he immediately leaves the discussion. It’s a game he plays and he doesn’t like to be called on it.; 9/13/26, 12:38 AM
Eva Marie said...: That’s my opinion, anyway.; 9/13/26, 12:41 AM
Original Mike said...: "My proof is - that whenever I say it, he immediately leaves the discussion."

Whenever you say what?; 9/13/26, 12:53 AM
Achilles said...: Eva Marie said...

that was said for provocation . . . like Achilles saying we should deport everyone who disagrees with him to Afghanistan.

*sigh* The queen of generalizations strikes again.

I don't say we need to deport everyone who disagrees with me to Afghanistan. The people who need to be sent to Afghanistan are college educated women who keep claiming they are oppressed and the US is a handsmaid's tale. Those women will learn their lesson more properly in China.

The people who believe in censorship, media propaganda, Chinese domination of manufacturing, killing their political opponents etc. need to be shipped to China. That is where they will properly learn their lesson.

And it isn't for effect. We are going to have a civil war if the fascists in DC do not surrender. We will pass election integrity laws and they will be removed from power.; 9/13/26, 6:15 AM
Achilles said...: Eva Marie said...

My proof is - that whenever I say it, he immediately leaves the discussion. It’s a game he plays and he doesn’t like to be called on it.

People don't sit here waiting for your responses. You have a nasty habit of claiming to win arguments when people don't show up and respond to your inane arguments.; 9/13/26, 6:18 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: It’s election season again. Back in, I think, 2020, We would have the same group of new posters come by, at the same times of day, every day, working shifts. Lying through their teeth. Never saw them again, after Election Day. I thought that Inga was one of them, but she stayed. About the only one.; 9/13/26, 6:22 AM
Achilles said...: Eva Marie said...

I support Israel snd I support the creation of Israel. Whatever the motivations of Britain were - and I don’t believe they were venal - the creation of Israel was a good thing. It’s defensible on its own merits. It’s not necessary (in my opinion) to shout Jew hater every time someone makes the argument that Israel shouldn’t exist iot that the US shouldn’t support Israel. But your mileage may vary.

Everything Britain and France did in the middle east was calculated and evil. Syria, Israel, Iraq, Turkey, Iran were all specifically drawn to put a minority population in charge of a majority population and to make that minority population dependent on western aid to maintain power.

It was when we kicked Britain out of the Suez and took over the ME that our government was infiltrated and taken over by the uniparty globalists. Once Britain became a hollow shell the United States Armed Forces became the tool the lizard people used to destabilize the ME.

What George Bush did after 9-11 was criminally stupid or he was a traitor that was in on it. Everything the Necons did since WWII in the ME was in service of Lloyds of London. Much of that was doing everything we could to isolate Israel in the ME and make everyone hate the Jews that lived there.

The globalists know their retards in the US. They called Bush Chimpy McHitler but they also knew he was on their team. McCain, Romney, Cruz, Desantis etc are all Yale/Harvard trained. They do what they are told.

Trump is the first person who is addressing the root cause of the conflict in the ME. The root cause is oppressive ruling minorities in a system set up to keep everyone in the ME dependent on the west for their legitimacy and continued rule.

Iran's Shia minority ruling the Persians is the last keystone in this edifice.; 9/13/26, 6:38 AM
RMc said...: Even lefties are going to have a hard time swallowing, "you know, actually, Marco Rubio is worse than Trump".

Well, lefties said that Trump was worse than W, who was worse than Bush Sr, who was worse than Reagan, who was worse than Nixon, who was worse than Coolidge. And so on.; 9/13/26, 6:43 AM