You can tell the publication is British and not just by the spelling of "defence." It's the forefronting of "Ivy League graduate" rather than his being considered especially cute, which is what counts in America.
August 13, 2026
"The Ivy League graduate had briefly planned to pursue an ‘extreme emotional disturbance’ defence after pleading not guilty to murder of healthcare boss."
I'm reading "Luigi Mangione expected to discuss 'plea deal on Friday'" in the London Times.
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The judge in the case has decided to keep the jurors anonymous.
Good!
There are way too many insane people on the left cheering this killer. It's like all the death threats the Supreme Court received when they were in the process of writing the Dobbs opinion. Way too many people on the left are anti-democratic, violent, and hate "the system," including the judicial system. And they threaten violence or actually engage in it.
He’ll get married to a woman who lives outside of prison in short order. Big selection!
Why get married? Federal prisons do not allow conjugal visits.
He has no shortage of penpals, I'm sure.
Jury selection is set to begin Sept. 8, and the trial is expected to last about six weeks.
Just another reminder how incompetent Judge Ito was, and how ridiculous the O.J. Simpson murder trial was. "The trial of the century," the media said. And so the judge decided to run that show for a year.
I predict the Mangione case will not be the trial of the century. There is no celebrity in this trial. He's not a hero. And the only people who like him are bloodthirsty nuts and the Charlie Manson babes.
He’s got a federal court case coming up. I seem to recall that the feds indicted him because there was a concern about a pardon or light sentence. Or even a not guilty verdict. IOW, DOJ didn’t trust NY.
I'm getting these quotes from NBC because I cannot climb the wall into the UK paper.
The courtroom was filled Tuesday with journalists and some Mangione proponents, who were wearing green, an apparent reference to the Luigi character from the iconic Nintendo Super Mario games and subsequent movies.
DSA death cult.
Ostensibly it's in federal court because he crossed state lines to murder him.
They're still getting the jury from D.C. So it's a New York jury pool. It's possible they didn't trust the New York judicial system. That, I get, particularly when the mayor is a Communist.
Mamdani won't pull press passes for ghoulish Luigi Mangione fangirls.
There are people putting up billboards calling on the jury to nullify the law and let the killer go free.
I don't think there is any universe where murder fans are helpful to Democrats.
'It's the forefronting of "Ivy League graduate" rather than his being considered especially cute, which is what counts in America.'
To be fair, Americans are aware how little the former actually means. It is "Ivy League graduate" that has shifted in significance.
I thought he was proud of murder i guess i was mistaken
I think the decision about the jury is wise.
I have considerable imagination, but I do not understand the support for ;the defendant, which at bottom is really support for killing CEOs in industries you don’t like. It’s despicable.
…our society has always had despicable deviants and demented followers. What’s new is they now earn major political party leadership and end up on the view…
Only California, Connecticut, Mississippi, New Mexico, New York, and Washington allow conjugal visits to inmates in state prisons, per AI. So NY would be in play, so to speak. I had forgotten his state court case would go first.
"which is what counts in America."
Nope.
It's the forefronting of "Ivy League graduate" rather than his being considered especially cute, which is what counts in America.
Are you complaining about the 19th amendment Ann?
Shocking.
They are going to have to rig the jury in order to convict him. .
Similar to how they convicted Derek Chauvin.
A lot has changed in Britain, but the one thing they'll cling to as their ship goes down is their class-based aristocratic society. Tuxedos, titles, and martinis accompanied by band music and stiff upper-lipped-tut-tutting as the Titanic sinks beneath them.
"It's the forefronting of "Ivy League graduate" rather than his being considered especially cute, which is what counts in America."
LOL. So true. I didn't even know he is an Ivy League graduate, but I definitely understood that he is considered especially cute.
It's shocking to me that people find the murderer attractive. He's not. Sad.
"Ivy League graduate" then murder charge.
Are they insinuating a cause and effect?
Used to be nobility was only earned by battlefield feats or from the throne itself. Now they'll extend markers of class distinction for shooting an unarmed man in the back while [checks notes] having graduated college. Shame he wasn't a Cambridge grad...they probably would've addressed him has "his lordship".
Althouse, is your link supposed to go the US edition or the UK edition?
The ivies are a creeping weed.
That said, a burden is a "burden" is a burden that ethically rationalizes planned personhood and wielding liberal license to entertain abortive ideation and taking affirmative action for social justice.
Innocent until proven icky.
Shooting an unarmed guy in the back qualifies Luigi to become a newly minted ICE agent.
Ivy League student culture = teenage rebellion that demands to be different than parents + the arrogance in being accepted by the 'elite.' They therefore become connoisseurs of fart sniffing and intellectually regress relative to their accomplished and optimized parents.
The professors, there and elsewhere, are a mix of sophists who persuade naive students that cliched old-hat ideas are new or unique, and/or bribed sycophants who generate 'findings' for whoever pays the bills.
That's a wonderful point you're making, RSM. I imagine there is a significant intersectionality between the Luigi Mangione groupies and Downton Abbey devotees.
RSM: Thanks for the Titanic analogy. Well said.
I've been watching Britain's descent for for a long time, and still can't get over the lengths that a ruling class can intentionally go in ruining their country when they really hate it and its people, culture and history, all the while denying that they are doing it.
Howard: I disagree with your intersectionality comment. At heart, it's a pretty conservative show. Of course, that's just my opinion.
Feels so Good
Class obsession is the elite form of status obsession. Of course downwardly mobile future cat ladies with depreciating degrees and degrading status love him, Howard. Just look at that smile! The only thing better than charming is *Prince* Charming, 3rd Earl of Ivyleagueshire-Upon-Penn!
Every single Lefty woman I know that lives in New England went to the Downton Abbey travelling museum when it landed in Boston. The Downton Abbey Venn diagram completely swallows the entire population of women everywhere.
Every time my wife rewatches the series I always ask her is he dead yet? My favorite part of the show is when that wimpy fop crashes his car and breaks princess's heart. Comedy gold!
Under leftist US law - he will skate. He's a cold blooded murdered.
Shorter Howard : "I agree that killing a health care CEO is comedy gold and dreamy."
History - Howard:
The anti-ICE leftist man killed by ICE agents - had a GUN.
He also kicked out an ICE vehicle tail light - with his Walz-Francesca fueled rage.
ICE agents are taught to be harassed at soros funded anti-ICE groupie session for losers.
Leftists LOVE Biden's mass illegal - illegal entrant operation for leftwing power. and all the tax payer fraud that goes with it.
Let us not forget the OLD WHTIE LEFT fuckhead leftist democrats who waved jelly-penises at Mexican -American ICE agents.
Was affirmative abortive action Planned or impulsive?
If you are stupid enough to tangle with law enforcement with a gun - you might be too stupid to live.
Leftists whine.
of course we know this is one of many reasons why collective cult white leftists want to defund the police.
anti-ICE Walzian White Leftists are the REAL RACISTS.
While on the treadmill, I was watching a YouTube video taken from a bus meandering its way through London. High up on a brick storefront were the painted words "Free Luigi Mangione." The killer's famous!
The Cat Lady Cometh, hairballs for everybody!
recent polls show that British citizens are increasingly unhappy with the National Health Service - (brit's mandated gov health care system)
Poor Howie - wants to kill some ICE agents and his wife won't let him.
When you are unhappy with the NHS, support the cute american CEO-killer. helpful.
The British have always been dissatisfied with the NHS. It is also their most beloved institution.
Unlike his supporters, Luigi has been in jail. Of course, he doesn't like it. Of course, he is trying to make a deal. They still live in consequence-free dreaming. He has touched reality - and he's looking to make a plea deal with it.
So, let me get this straight...if wymyn ruled the world, and you're cute, it's OK to murder people. And especially if the victims are white capitalist men. Got it.
The female of the species is more deadly than the male. They just aren't as direct about it (e.g., poison), or outsource it per favors given to male assassins.
"The British have always been dissatisfied with the NHS. It is also their most beloved institution."
The British love queuing. Even with nothing to wait for, a chance to line up evokes a willingness to close their eyes and think of England.
Howard said...
Shooting an unarmed guy in the back qualifies Luigi to become a newly minted ICE agent.
ICE agents are almost all better people than you.
At The Twilight Fringe, pro-abortion is a Planned ethical Choice made for social, clinical, criminal, political, and climate progress. #NoJudgment #NoLabels #SomeLivesMatter
Civil rights enforcement officers (e.g. ICE) have a right to self-defense. They do not have a right to entertain abortive ideation and take affirmative action. Certainly not when Planned or premeditated.
Peachy+2 said...
Under leftist US law - he will skate. He's a cold blooded murdered.
He is.
But so are the people who run our insurance, drug, and healthcare companies.
How many people have died because of the food pyramid? Partially Hydrogenated vegetable oils? Synthetic dyes?
Statins have exploded the dementia epidemic.
Mangione is a symptom. Executing him wont solve the underlying problem.
Shooting an unarmed guy in the back qualifies Luigi to become a newly minted ICE agent.
Howard has pretty much morphed into kaki/gadfly/comrade cook.
The feminists of the species, and its masculinist companions, prefers to entertain abortive ideation under a cloak of privacy that mitigates psychological distress and social culpability. Fortunately, this is a minority sect, albeit with progressive liberal membership. Human rites are an equitable, if wicked, solution to relieve a "burden" of state, State.
If you want to get rich just buy some recent Ivy League graduates for what they’re really worth and sell them for what they think they’re worth.
Was the problem conceived at UnitedHealthcare? AARP? Obamacares?
What with this trend in which overly swarthy and hirsute men are considered cute by AWFLs? Mangione, Mamdani, El-Sayed, etc. I thought that was the exclusive province of Bear Week in Provincetown.
Killer Klown looks like Wicked Uncle Ernie with the Caterpillar Eyebrows.
Every woman - to one extent or another - biologically desires:
- Being discovered by some higher status dude
- To inherit his status by proximity
- Psychopathy, combined with high status, isn't a deal breaker
- Showing off their new status to other women
- Keeping those other women from equaling her in status
- Most importantly, *exemption* from labor due to her new status
Downton Abbey is the British Aristocratic Cosplay Hobby Kit on steroids. Of course nothing makes AWFULs wetter.
Ivy League Graduate--dirty little coward back shooter. Almost makes you think birds of a feather flock together.
If there's a plea deal, it will likely be in the federal case, not the NY state case. There are two reasons.
First, if the federal case is resolved first bu a guilty plea deal to one or more counts of the indictment, the federal conviction would bar the NY case on double jeopardy grounds. NY has a more defense-friendly view of double jeopardy than the feds, in that NY rejects the 'dual sovereign' doctrine applicable in federal court. Thus, a prior conviction on a federal charge bars a subsequent NY trial for the same offense. In contrast, a prior NY conviction would not bar a subsequent federal trial for the same offense (because the charges were brought by separate 'sovereigns,' meaning NY and the US, each of which has a right to vindicate its own interest).
Second, there is no reasonable likelihood that Mangione will be acquitted in either case. Upon conviction, it is highly likely that Mangione will get a life sentence, and could end up with two if the NY case goes first. So, might as well get rid of the state case entirely, and end up serving the federal sentence in a federal facility. The federal facilities are a better place to serve a prison sentence.
It's not my life, but if I had his looks, I would rely on the jury and get as many women on it as possible, that with the justified anger at our health system could turn a juror. It only takes one.
Iman, Uncle Ernie was played by Keith Moon of blessed memory. I'm not seeing a huge resemblance. CC, JSM
Dolan, given your analysis of NYS double jeopardy, should Presidents start doing prophylactic convictions of their underlings, right before the prophylactic pardons? This would protect an e.g. Fauci just in case New York had a Republican DA and jury pool somewhere in the state. Or does the pardon nullify the double-jeopardy effect of the federal conviction? Plus the judge gets a vote.
It would have really been hilarious if Trump had Brer Rabbited the Autopen DOJ into convicting him for his NYS "crimes," estopping the state prosecutions, then won the election and pardoned himself for the federal ones. But maybe even his 'jones aren't that big. CC, JSM
John Mosby, I believe that is how the Paul Manifort matter played out. Federal conviction then a pardon, and NY decided double jeopardy applied.
The Daily Mail headline: "Luigi Mangione will plead GUILTY to federal charges over killing of health insurance CEO, sources claim."
How disappointing. The Brits really are slipping.
I sure do, Mr. Mosby !
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