Tell me what you think. Grok talked about spinning — "turn a loss into content, troll the establishment, and keep the spotlight... he's wired for this exact kind of spotlight-reality spin."
Okay. That's justified by the way I framed my question. But I had 2 other things in mind.
First, if he'd won he'd actually need to make good on his promises. He'd have to confront reality on the ground and facing lots of opposition. He wanted to round people up and institutionalize them. How would that have worked? This way, he can just keep pointing to the dream of a beautiful LA that might have been.
Second, his own mother said she wanted him to lose... for the sake of his wife and children:
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How cute.
He is fighting the good fight against a corrupt system
LOL.
Spencer Pratt will be mentioned in history books. Spencer Pratt didn't lose anything.
Democrats do not understand the river of history and they do not understand what they have lost here.
Todd Blanche and Harmeet Dillon need to file a federal court lawsuit against the City of LA. LA and the State of California is depriving citizens of a Republican form of government. Every legitimate vote is diluted and offset by all the fake votes. Completely dishonest and rigged like POTUS told Welker. If Rosie is all about truth, she should agree with me.
This contest is as fake a three dollar bill
Are these the faces of winners?
LOL!
Demon possession
Empathetic optimism.
Dave Begley said...
Todd Blanche and Harmeet Dillon need to file a federal court lawsuit against the City of LA. LA and the State of California is depriving citizens of a Republican form of government. Every legitimate vote is diluted and offset by all the fake votes. Completely dishonest and rigged like POTUS told Welker. If Rosie is all about truth, she should agree with me.
This will not work. The courts are corrupt and all lawsuits will be thrown out for lack of standing.
You cannot use systems to manage people who refuse to play by the rules of the system.
You are basically telling us to put up "This is a gun free zone." signs.
You don't stop violent criminals in the courts. Courts work on people who accept the system. You stop violent criminals with the threat and use of force.
For those who say with a straight face that there is no election fraud in CA and ballot harvesting is legit - my daughter, who hasn’t lived in CA for 3 years got a ballot mailed to her (at her GA address).
I can't wait to see the look on Karen Bass' face when she is leading by 10 points on election night and then loses.
Did he lose? As I predicted in last night’s cafe thread, lefty AWFL Althouse is eager to accept the obviously stolen election, though her argument is because, golly gee whiz, it might be hard to implement his stated policies. That’s different from accepting the stolen election for the sake of “our” democracy (her democracy), as she advocated after the 2020 election, but the intent is the same — telling the peasants to shut up and take it.
"Second, his own mother said she wanted him to lose... for the sake of his wife and children:"
No she didn't.
Might as well flood the zone with AI. Rub their noses in it. He had fun stormin' the castle.
Schrodinger's democracy.
More absentee ballot dumps going 100% in one Democrat direction. Same statistical anomaly we saw in Milwaukee's 2020 late night ballot dump where 100% of a ward's absentee votes went toward Biden.
What Kristen Welker and corrupt Democrats (and some Republicans) refuse to admit is statistical improbabilities are evidence of fraud. But the press won't dive any deeper and the just repeat the mantra "there's not evidence."
And a Achilles stated above, the courts are corrupt and will never provide relief.
Pratt is behind now, but they have 146,000 votes to go according to NBC news. 17 percent. Again, its been so long when was the election? 6 days ago?
Nobody in LA or California seems upset that California used to have results in one day after the election - at most. And now it take a week or 10 days. Why? Its not like California doesn't have the $$.
Anyway, LA is only 29 percent white now, and how many of those are native Americans is unclear. Its just a 21st century version of corrupt big cities of the 19th century with immigrants selling their votes to "the machine".
You've got two options, L.A.
Communist vs Socialist
"I let the city burn"
vs
"outlaw the hot dogs"
Yes, the D's are stuffing the ballot box again.
For this to ever change GOPe leadership will have to get angry and do something about it. The D's wont. And just "noticing" and making "Wry comments" isn't going to change things either.
I'm having a hard time caring whether or not LA smells like drug infested poop.
"I studied under Castro"
vs
"NIMBY, you homeless fakers!"
As I predicted in last night’s cafe thread, lefty AWFL Althouse is eager to accept the obviously stolen election
Do you (or the president for that matter) have the barest shred of evidence that the election was stolen?
It reminds me of when Michael K. claimed there were 3 million illegal aliens who voted for Hillary in Los Angeles alone. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, and assumed he meant the L.A. metro area, not just the city. But even that would mean that not only is every single foreign born resident here illegally, but every one of them (including children) voted for Hillary.
What Kristen Welker and corrupt Democrats (and some Republicans) refuse to admit is statistical improbabilities are evidence of fraud.
That's because they aren't.
You don't deal with people like this in court.
Graham Platner would ignore the courts and throw you in jail if they side with you.
You cannot stop the Democrat Party with anything less than the violence they promise and inflict upon us.
There was no mathematical way he was going to win the general election, right?
Most of the leftist primary election losers would see their votes go to the incumbent leftist, right?
This all seems like theater. Or even, theatre.
He wanted to round people up and institutionalize them.
I thought he wanted to force offenders who have no home into recovery rather than jail or release.
Freder Frederson said...
What Kristen Welker and corrupt Democrats (and some Republicans) refuse to admit is statistical improbabilities are evidence of fraud.
That's because they aren't.
Like I said. They are stupid clapping seals who will mouth any lie they are told to mouth.
In Freder's case he is a fascist evil clapping seal that looks forward to throwing us all in jail or killing us if we resist.
Winning right now in LA is actually the worst possible outcome for leftists because no houses will be rebuilt, no homeless taken off streets and no better governance in four years. A new crisis will arise as they do and Bass/Raman will fail to meet the moment as Bass and Newsom have done as SOP.
(Posted on overnight thread in longer form)
He showed how vulnerable what’s left of the left is, even in their deep dark blue territory. I think it does expose what a disaster they are.
…and it might not be your question but he helps to answer how much more vote rigging do you need to convince you there’s a problem?
...they have 146,000 votes to go...
#FakeNews. They have until midnight tomorrow to receive "all the ballots" so there is no exact number "left to count" at this point. There cannot be a definite number with the window still open... unless NBC is admitting there is fraud and "only" 146,000 more votes will be allowed to be counted.
That could certainly be true. But with AAG Dhillon on the ground with Essalyi there it would be a stupid admission.
…his loss also my gain in property values just across the border in Nevada…
Fredo Frederson would rather we waterboarded the vote counters.
I’m game.
No happy faces. Fight. Fight. Fight.
the show us the evidence thing has grown tired. If you allow for audits we could show you. the places where people have been allowed to look its there but its always summed up as no ‘widespread’ and yes our leftie won the election so there was none…so stop looking…
Yessir, Freder wants everyone to believe there is zero fraud when a batch of 20,000 votes gets counted, and every candidate running gets votes, even the minor candidate... except the Republican. He gets zero votes. Out of 20,000 people in a batch, not a single one voted for Pratt, but we had 200 vote for the libertarian, 19,000 vote for the communist, who "really needed it to catch up to Pratt!" and 150 here for this person and 400 for that person, etc... but zero ballots at all for the Republican. No fraud screams Freder. It's just normal that Democrats always get juuuuust barely the "right amount" to win! Right after they get the guy who managed Gregoirie's race in Washington state a decade ago, who "found" juuust enough votes to push her over the top to beat the Republican... a week or so after the election. Gosh, how could anyone suspect fraud, Freder?
I have discovered that Raman, the socialist, is also a Zionist who supports Israel's right to exist. And so Hasan Piker is getting dragged through the shit for doing an interview with her and endorsing her. Ha ha ha ha.
Karen Bass also supports Israel. Apparently, the mayor election is
Zionist
vs
Zionist
ha ha ha, Jew haters stay home
Pratt, meanwhile, has no opinion on Israel, he just wants to focus on the city. You could have had a non-partisan election! Too late. Now it's world-traveling Communist vs Socialist Crybaby. And the Zionists are safe in Los Angeles. As long as you don't wander into the wrong homeless camp. Or accidentally step on a needle and inject heroin into your foot.
Yeah, the 146,000 number is the "Expected" number per the NBC news site. I assume they know from the past, how many votes will trickle in one to two weeks after the election.
"What Kristen Welker and corrupt Democrats (and some Republicans) refuse to admit is statistical improbabilities are evidence of fraud."
That's because they aren't.
What do you mean? Statistical improbabilities - especially the big outliers - are certainly evidence that fraud may have occurred. They aren't irrefutable evidence, but they're certainly probable cause for further investigation.
When, for example, a shocking number of babies are stillborn or have terrible birth defects, among a population of mothers who took a particular medication during pregnancy, that's sufficient cause to look into that medication. Isn't it? You don't need 100% of babies born to mothers who took that medication to die or have birth defects. All you need is a statistical outlier.
Why can't you admit that?
When two predominantly working-class counties, separated by a state line, have voted in lockstep for the past 20 years, and then in one and only one very irregularly conducted election the one in the "blue" state goes the opposite way from the one in the "red" state, why do you think it's not significant? When almost literally zero late votes go to one candidate - the only Republican in the race, who, on election night, was known to be way ahead of the third finisher - in a state that runs a jungle primary, has criminalized even asking for proof of voting eligibility, and allows late ballots to come in for an effectively undefined period after election day, why can't you admit that it looks fishy as hell, and would warrant investigation?
And if you're so confident of the outcome of such an investigation, why wouldn't you be pushing for it yourself, just to prove to all of us conspiracy theorists that our electoral system is every bit as above board as you say it is?
Voting in California is insane. Its like someone sat down and thought "Gee, what election rules can we make up that will give the people counting the votes the biggest chance to commit fraud and not get caught?"
No verification of ID, state residence, or citizenship. Ballots mailed out to every one with a drivers liscense or previously voted. No signature verification. Ballots can be mailed weeks before the election and all the way up to election day.
No desire to clean up the voter rolls. In fact, California successfully got Far-left Federal Judge to stop Trump administration from examining the voter rolls.
Its like a 3rd world country. And well-to-do californians are proud of it.
Damn you, Kalshi. I told you to take my money. How dare you.
If you tired of doing the eyerolls every time someone accuses the left of fraud tough noogies. You’re gonna get the accusations until the vote is secured with the typical practices used forever to instill confidence in elections. Meanwhile I hope your eyeballs roll out your thick heads…
Walter Kirn
@walterkirn
A lot of people don't want to confront the implications of what they just saw happen in LA, even those who are appalled by it. They want an out, just so they can go on, not be terrified, feel a tiny tiny bit in control still. It will be interesting to see what they come up with.
In Freder's case he is a fascist evil clapping seal that looks forward to throwing us all in jail or killing us if we resist.
When have I ever stated anything remotely close to this.
You, on the other hand, frequently revel in fantasies of mass public executions, imprisonment or exile of roughly 30% of your fellow citizens.
Grab yer pole and tackle box, Fredo…
"First, if he'd won he'd actually need to make good on his promises. He'd have to confront reality on the ground and facing lots of opposition."
So at what point are we, or is some one going to stand up, do the hard work, push past those Democrats and socialists who want to keep decaying our cities, and get the work done? We cannot keep just throwing up our hands and saying "It's too hard."
It doesn't take political experience. It takes a vision and a strong dose of will. At what point will Californians reach their pain threshold with their own state? At what point will the crime, the homeless addicts, the human feces on the streets, the utter corruption of their city and state officials, the loss of billions of dollars into unknown black holes, the incredibly high taxes on everything and the incredibly voluminous regulations imposed on doing anything become too much even for Democrats and socialists?
In the meantime, more people and more companies are going to look at these elections (Governor, Mayor of LA) and decide, we're gone. We are moving. We're done with California.
Democrats and their underlings in the media will proclaim Raman the new face of the new Democrats, but everyone else will be simply shaking their heads and looking at videos of other towns in other states that they can move to.
Again, its been so long when was the election? 6 days ago?
Here is the California SoS page on elections. They still have 32 days to count, as far as they are concerned. They aren't even a quarter of the way.
34 criminal convictions for Election Fraud in California over the past decade. And that's not all of them.
If fraud wasn't used in the LA mayoral election, it appears that the folks running the vote count did everything in their power to make it look as though fraud was committed.
Does she have a name? "This is ________, Spencer Pratt's mother. " Rude.
A third place candidate suddenly gets double the votes she was, but only with ballots counted after election day and she moves to the top.
A voting pattern never seen before anywhere in the world.
"First, if he'd won he'd actually need to make good on his promises. He'd have to confront reality on the ground and facing lots of opposition."
This is what they said about Trump closing the border, too.
On the bright side, Democrats don't need to assassinate him now.
All the fines. Don’t forget the fines…
The evidence that the election is stolen is that there is no evidence.
"The evidence that the election is stolen is that there is no evidence."
I want to see the spatial and temporal vote distribution.
"statistical improbabilities are evidence of fraud"
Yes, they are. Supposedly, the DOJ is in California now. I want to see this evidence, if it exists, collected and publicized.
The evidence missing is the verification that the votes were cast by the people named on the ballots. No signatures, no valid addresses, and the least popular candidate winning. Even a lot of Democrats got robbed.
Does a majority care? Does it matter if they care?
The strongest evidence of organized fraud is that the laws have been changed to facilitate it and prevent it's discovery and prosecution. Why would anybody want that?
Yea, he beats me and treats me like shit, but I love him.
The corrupt democrat party have destroyed voting.
The phrase "without evidence" is a leftist nazi phrase - concocted on purpose.
Jamie replied to Freder…"What do you mean? Statistical improbabilities - especially the big outliers - are certainly evidence that fraud may have occurred. …
When, for example, a shocking number of babies are stillborn or have terrible birth defects, …"
Virtually all or medical evidence of the causes of disease is statistical in nature.
"Why can't you admit that?"
That there is what we call a rhetorical question, Freder.
We all know why you can't admit it.
@# Temujin 9:01
ChrisC said...
I can't wait to see the look on Karen Bass' face when she is leading by 10 points on election night and then loses.
Yup, what I've been thinking for a while. I wouldn't bet on a compromised Democrat machine politician winning against a Commie Theater Kid, especially since she was obviously frauded into the runoff. Exactly like Mamdani's path.
Rank choice voting is a platform for cheating.
They corrupt dems learn how many votes (ballots) they need.
I don't think Pratt would have won a runoff with Karen Bass. But the Dem machine in CA couldn't allow him to get to the runoff. His mocking and criticism of CA corruption and incompetence was getting too much national attention.
The burden of proof is on the state running the election. The state must prove that they ran a free and fair election. It's not up to the voters to prove they didn't. The voters don't even have access to that information.
They have zero interest in addressing voter concerns about integrity or in trying to restore and bolster voter confidence. They just label them extremists or conspiracy theorists or stupid. It's the questioning itself that is bad and only bad people question.
That tells you what you need to know.
The United States now has the least secure elections in the "free" world. The left ruins everything it touches. Thank you liberals for giving them the keys. Now we are all in the damned ditch, and we can't trust the Big Gulp hasn't been spit in.
The evidence that the election is stolen is that there is no evidence.
As is often the case for me, in the absence of facial expression or tone of voice, I'm not sure if this is sarcasm. But even if it is, which way does it cut? No one in the "fraud" camp is claiming that no evidence equals evidence, and those in the "scrupulously honest" camp are saying that there is no evidence despite the undeniable presence of serious statistical outliers and hard-to-explain patterns - both of which, ISTM, are in the realm of circumstantial evidence.
I remember, growing up, it was something everyone knew. They hold elections in the Soviet bloc countries, but they're fixed. The Party always wins.
The fact that they fight audits tooth and nail is also evidence.
Pratt was going to lose a heads-up race against either of the two leading Democrat candidates- as bad off as L.A. is today, it will have to get much worse before the voters have had enough of the incompetent leftist governing bodies. I think Democrats decided that they had had enough of Pratt's mockery and decided to do a full court press to run him off the ballot in November. There were two ways to do this- either bring Raman up into second place or push Bass over the 50% margin so that the race in November never occurs. The second option required Raman's asssent- so they went with option #1. It probably has been done by backdating ballots and not putting them through the post- I imagine nearly 100,000 ballots have been filled out since last Tuesday night with Raman selected.
California, like every place run by Democrats is ripe for election fraud. Any claim that elections are secure cannot be proven and ignores facts. Having said that, fraud or no fraud Pratt was not going to win. I recently moved back to California after a 60-year absence (family reasons). People here are “through the looking glass.” Think: Newsom, Schiff, Swalwell, Pelosi, Waters, Khanna, Bass, etc.
Pratt was unlikely to win the general, and if he did, he'd be fought tooth and nail on any reforms, but that's irrelevant. Fraud is the issue. If everyone assumes he would lose anyway, then why did they cheat? Because that's who they are, they knew it was easy, they knew they would get away with it, and they don't care if you know they cheated. They still won. Stopping people like that is the whole issue, not who wins or loses.
I'm sure that as people sat in NGO offices filling out ballots for homeless people they never met, they had no problem justifying it to themselves in multiple ways.
Bass would probably win the general even with Pratt in the race, but the Dems wanted to avoid that head-to-head focus through the general election.
Even with Raman in the final, she will remain an after thought. Pratt can still execute upon his original strategy outside the final race, if he has the personal drive and motivates his grassroots support.
I honestly didn't think that Pratt was a good candidate. His videos were funny, but his plans were vague and unobtainable. (He also hit me as a person who would have no problem lying when convenient.) If he had won, the Democrats at the city level, the county level and the state level would have constantly shut down anything that they disagreed with.
I suspect that he'll keep putting out videos and possibly run as a write in candidate for the general election.
His plans were crystal clear try to salvage the city they cannot have thar
Even though Pratt was unlikely to win the general, his continuing campaign was going to be very damaging to Democrats. I guess that's the real reason to cheat. He had to be put in third at all costs.
The evidence that the election is stolen is that there is no evidence.
Indeed. A fair and open election would have plenty of convincing evidence that everything was legitimate, starting with knowing who exactly showed up to vote. But in California, there is no evidence as to who actually voted.
The real scandal is that a very small number of well-funded people are deciding elections. Maybe just a couple wealthy ones are really making t happen. They call that "democracy"
It's not money from donors to campaigns to buy advertising. It's the buying of ballot making machinery working through NGOs. Small armies of paid voter registration harvesters and ballot fillers. I'm not even sure it's illegal in CA. If it is, they will fix that.
I've never heard of more people voting for mayor than for governor. That's not the way it works.
Freder Frederson said...
In Freder's case he is a fascist evil clapping seal that looks forward to throwing us all in jail or killing us if we resist.
When have I ever stated anything remotely close to this.
You, on the other hand, frequently revel in fantasies of mass public executions, imprisonment or exile of roughly 30% of your fellow citizens
You supported throwing the j6 protestors in jail. You supported trying to jail and kill Trump. You supported the killing of Kirk. You supported censorship during Covid.
Nobody buys your shit anymore. You outed yourself with your actions. You proved you are a fascist piece of shit by doing it.
Nobody cares about your words. They are obvious lies compared to your actions.
Saint Croix said...
I've never heard of more people voting for mayor than for governor. That's not the way it works.
LOL
his continuing campaign was going to be very damaging to Democrats
A lot of money needing to be spent. They've started themselves that.
I've heard Republicans saying the same thing: at least this way, Republican money won't be thrown down a well. And (as always) it's easier, and in some lights, more effective, to be the loser and complain about what isn't getting done than the winner and have to do things. 'Twas ever thus.
But I'm with bagoh: isn't the issue our confidence in the electoral process? How can we have any, under these circumstances?
Yeah, he's being blatantly cheated in real time and he should be happy because the job would be stressful. Really?
He wanted to round people up and institutionalize them. How would that have worked?
Probably about the same as it works in every city run by even remotely sane people, and has for hundreds of years.
"His mocking and criticism of CA corruption and incompetence was getting too much national attention."
There's no reason he can't continue, should he wish to. He's got even more material to work with now, what with how the vote counting has been handled.
Print-at-Home ballots.
Is this for real?
I also read you don't need a postmark on your mail-in ballot. You can write the date on yourself.
And the Secretary of State does not release the number of print-at-home ballots received.
Incredible.
@Yancy Ward, you left out option #3 - the PTB have decided Raman is going to be the next mayor of LA. People who voted for Pratt might stay home but they have already shown they won't be voting for Bass. As ChrisC forecast, Bass is going to be winning on the morning of November 6th then losing a week later, just like Pratt.
What Jamie said at 10:52 AM.
You supported throwing the j6 protestors in jail. You supported trying to jail and kill Trump. You supported the killing of Kirk. You supported censorship during Covid.
Please provide examples. And "the monkeys flying out of my butt told me you said these things", doesn't count as proof.
On the other hand, I can provide actual comments by you where you demand mass executions, think that 30% of the people in this country, and 75% of the members of congress, need to be killed (preferably in public executions), imprisoned or exiled.
They are obvious lies compared to your actions.
Other than my commenting on this blog, how do you know anything about my actions? Have you been stalking me?
Freder Frederson said...
You supported throwing the j6 protestors in jail. You supported trying to jail and kill Trump. You supported the killing of Kirk. You supported censorship during Covid.
Please provide examples. And "the monkeys flying out of my butt told me you said these things", doesn't count as proof.
You support the democrat party.
You also support burning American flags and attacking federal officers with your illegal immigrant allies.
Your actions prove you aren’t just a fascist.
You are a traitor too.
The evidence that the election is stolen is that there is no evidence...that the election was conducted with integrity.
"California reminds voters there are just 30 days left to vote in Last Tuesdays election." ~ Babylon Bee
Your actions prove you aren’t just a fascist.
You are a traitor too.
So you have nothing to back up your increasingly insane rants.
@Freder: That's because they aren't.
Statistical anomalies are most definitely admissible as evidence in all of our courts of law, you ignorant dolt.
They helped convict the Enron defendants, they are used in money laundering prosecutions all the time, and in one well-known case, statistically impossible violations of Benford's Law were a major piece of evidence in the trial of an Arizona Treasury Dept. employee who was convicted of embezzlement. State of Arizona v. Wayne James Nelson (1993, CV92-18841).
Admit it, you are perfectly happy with fraudulent elections as long as they help leftists cling to power.
This is how civil wars start. When it kicks off, the fraudsters will be hunted.
And it was the monkeys, wasn't it?
NOVEMBER 30, 2010:
Four weeks after losing the election as AG of CA, Kamala Harris wins due to mail-in surge from LA
Harris won by less than 1%
1) People who hate the cheating regardless of who they support.
2) People who accept the cheating as long as their candidate wins.
3) People who like the cheating because they know they can't win without it.
4) People who accept the cheating by pretending it's not real. These are probably the most despicable, as they even lie to themselves.
It's not great that Trump let himself get flustered.
I understand it, but now, every time he's interviewed, the goal will be to get him to walk out. He needs to be prepared to answer the "no evidence" line these folks always throw out.
Maybe he should have his staff create a site he can point to that catalogs all indicators and evidence of fraud. Nobody is going to be able to cite all that stuff off the top of their head in an interview situation and these shit-birds know it.
Is there such a site already? If there is, I wish someone would provide a link.
If one person says their is no evidence and the other says there is, who is right? Of course there is evidence, and the more you look, the more you find. The question is why do you not want to look? Saying there is no evidence of voter fraud is not believable even if you never looked. It's like saying there is no evidence of media bias, and people say that too. People saying these things don't even belive it themsleves.
"California Announces They Have Finished Counting The Votes, Ronald Reagan Has Won The 1966 Governor's Race" ~ Babylon Bee
"The question is why do you not want to look?"
Everybody knows the answer to that one.
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