"That denial was shown to be untrue when the Simpson defense team introduced audiotapes of him using the word dozens of times. Mr. Fuhrman then acknowledged having used such language, but said it was in the context of creating a screenplay that he hoped would become a movie. Other trial witnesses testified that Mr. Fuhrman had indeed used the word in earnest; one of them recalled his having said that if it were up to him, Black people 'would be gathered together and burned.' On the tapes, he was heard saying that there were police officers who 'would just love to take certain people and just take them to the alley and just blow their brains out.'"
From "Mark Fuhrman, Flawed Witness in O.J. Simpson Trial, Dies at 74/A Los Angeles police detective, he was discredited during Mr. Simpson’s 1995 murder trial by defense lawyers who pointed to his past use of racist language" (NYT).

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So right now he and OJ are greeting each other with “What up mah notorious epithet!” CC, JSM
Diversitism.
Poor Mark Fuhrman, he didn't know he would be on TV one-day in one of the most famous murder trials of all time and that every word he said would be used against him.
Of course, whether Fuhrman said the "Nword" or not had zero to do with what he was there to testify about - the bloody glove. It was just another clown sideshow in the Simpson trial circus.
So, rather than being the hero, who found the piece of evidence that put a killer in jail, he gets a NYT obit about him being a "racist".
IRC, it was his liberal/leftist Hollywood "Friend" who went to the defense with the tapes. Never trust a fucking liberal.
One of those guys whom most everybody can think of nothing nice to say about. He always reminded me of that Vice Principal hard*ss in The Breakfast Club. Equal parts mean and incompetent.
I have always believed Fuhrman planted the glove where he claimed to have found it even though I am 99.99% sure O.J. was the killer.
A lot of much more consequential people pass without nearly this much news coverage, but reminding people of Fuhrman's racism serves the current narrative.
The Simpson trial is as distant from today as the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was from the Simpson trial.
The sins of the fathers...that screenplay sounds like it was cribbed from the first Dirty Harry film. A load of people in LA have a screenplay they are trying to sell. Truly.
The OJ case was so open-and-shut that the prosecution was sloppy, plus they acted as deer in the headlights given OJ's fame. This happened during California's transition from purple to blue politics (i.e., massive immigration; whites leaving and dying off). If the Rodney King and OJ events had been handled better, we may not have lived through 30 years of creeping woke and BLM.
Justice, American-style: a double-murderer goes free because one of the investigators sometimes said naughty words.
Seems fair.
He's dead ann
Fairly young
OJ had more time on earth
Let it go
You white liberal elite ladies won.
Wo4king class people of that time said the word nigger. Its still not a crime, like slashing your wife... At least he died a free man.
Madison surely applauded the not guilty verdict. You didn't start this shit with luigi... you ladies love the poor picked on minority boys and lil white fellas too. Sad
Yancy: I have always believed Fuhrman planted the glove where he claimed to have found it even though I am 99.99% sure O.J. was the killer.
Where did Fuhrman find the glove?
At the scene of the crime, Maynard, is my guess.
The Furham cross-examination enabled the defense to successfully cast the case in racial terms. That, coupled with the prosecution permitting OJ to try on the gloves, led to the NG.
The jury had to be breathing a sigh of relief that they had some basis to acquit OJ in these highly-charged circumstances.
Aggies
He was a cop
He seen things
Ann saw the wealthy black students and jackpot winners she put through in the admissions committee.
She never cried nigger because she never saw niggers, only black,people... there's a difference, you know. The cops who serve you know it too.
Fuhrman helped one man escape justice and brought another man to justice.
His book Murder in Greenwich (1998) renewedinterest in the Michael Skakel murder case.
Skakel, (Kennedy family) was convicted of the murder of Martha Moxley in 2002. He served about half of his 20 year sentence until the conviction was overturned.
I was on an corporate exchange assignment in Germany at the time of the verdict- all of my German colleagues thought O.J. was going to be convicted- they were astounded that I predicted he would either be acquitted or get a hung jury. I got a lot of free beers out of that verdict.
I remember the trial, because I followed it closely. CNN"s legal analyst, a Jewish Retired judge from San Diego, said at the start of the trial that the black jury would never convict. And he kept saying that all through the trial. I thought that was ridiculous. 12 people just ignoring the evidence, and freeing a killer because he was black? Impossible.
Yeah, well he was right. Later when I served on a couple juries, I understood how incredibly stupid an callous a lot of people are. And how lucky I've been to not be around those types.
I'm not sure at all sure but I think maybe Mark Fuhrman's hairdo was the kind that required mousse and a Gillette Max for Men Hair Styler.
There were two gloves. One was found at the scene. Nobody saw a 2nd glove. Furhman came on the murder scene late.
In order to believe Furhman planted the glove you'd have to believe (1) no one saw the glove at the crime scene except fuhrman who then (2) picked it up and hid it without being seen and then (3) planted the glove without anyone noticing.
Which brings up another point. No one knew OJ was the prime suspect at the time of murder. Furhman and 3 other detectives went to OJs house to see if he was OK and/or inform him of his wifes death. He wasn't a suspect. When no one answered the bell, furhman climbed the wall thinking OJ might be injured/dead. Its only later that they found out OJ was on a trip to Chicago.
So what if Furhman had "Planted the glove" and it turned out to have someone else's blood on it? Furhman didn't know OJ was kIller or who's blood was on the glove.
I was impressed by the LA detectives at the trial. That's probably because being LA police detective was a high-status job. I doubt the detectives 30 years later are in the same class.
"Every trial is a contest of credibility. " The late and great Nebraska federal judge Lyle E. Strom.
Forget the evidence or racist comments, the black jurors said they were not going to send another (guilty) black man to jail.
Fasten your seat belts for the Luigi trial. It doesn’t take a village, only one hardcore lib to hang the jury.
OJ was a suspect from the jump. A known wife beater. The blood on the Bronco gave the justification to hop over the gate. Kato Kaitlin told cops he heard something slam into the exterior air conditioning unit outside his room then Furman checked it out and found the second bloody glove.
OJ was reported to have confessed to Rosey Grier as his pastor. This happend In jail, and was overheard by a sheriff.
Open and shut jury nullification.
Open and shut case of how free enterprise fueled by plenty of money tips the justice system scales towards wealth.
OJ benefited from both white privilege and black solidarity.
We can’t replace lawyers and judges fast enough.
He wrote about in a screenplay like james ellroy
You cant hate these people enough
I seem to be in a small minority. I watched a lot of the trial live. Based on what I saw I never would have voted to convict.
I do agree that Simpson was guilty of marrying a white woman. To many people, esp black women, that was a far worse crime than the alleged murder.
John Henry
Pretty clear, of course oj was protected by the lapd
So the defense narrative didnt make any sense
RC, Fuhrman almost surely suspected Simpson right from the start- he was already well familiar with Simpson's past treatment of his ex-wife. Additionally, by the time Fuhrman claimed to have found the glove, they had already found the blood on the Bronco and knew when Simpson had left for the airport. If Fuhrman planted the glove, he did so being 95% sure that Simpson did the crime. The thing is that even though no one claims they saw a second glove at the scene, there are photographs either to support that claim or disprove it. Fuhrman and his partner were the first detectives on the scene and they arrived fairly soon after the bodies were discovered.
The main reason I think the glove was planted was that it never made much sense for the gloves to be separated that way- you would have to believe Simpson accidentally dropped both gloves in widely separated locations rather than just accidentally dropping one with the second never found at all.
How did he know where the gloves were (it doesnt pass the smell test) of course the craziest theory was the colombians did it, proferred by donald freed
Fuhrman arrives on the scene 2 hours after the first cop. 14 police sign in before he does and not one mentions seeing two gloves at the crime, but somehow Fuhrman sees it, snatches it and then plants it. That glove ended up having Simpson's blood on it, but we know Simpson's blood wasn't drawn until the next day.
Also Philip Vannatter and Fuhrman's partner arrived at the same time he did. Of course, all three could've been part of the grand conspiracy to frame OJ - for no particular reason. While risking their careers and jail time.
The glove was real but dried up and forced over rubber gloves, the bloody Bruno Magli shoes were rare, and Simpson suspected his white wife was cheating with a white man. The "Dream Team" had the jury tour Simpson's house and replaced all of OJ's art with MLK and black political imagery.
This is not a 2+2 case, it's a 1+1 case. But yes, @John henry, the prosecution and law enforcement were bumblers and dropped the ball from the start.
It didnt make sense then (freed made it a book length screed)
Mark lived out my theory that nobody is as bad as they seem on their worst days or as good as they seem on their best.
He was a good cop was he perfect even he wouldnt admit that
The evil people on ojs defense team did him dirty cochrane and ullman in particular
IRC, once it was established that it was Nicole - OJ ex-wife, the police tried to phone OJ and got no answer. That's when they went to OJ's place. This is 5-6 Am. They didn't know where he was or what condition. Dead? Injured? Asleep? Away?
That's when Furhman jumped the wall and found OJ's daughter at the Guest House. Vanadder than got a warrant to search the house.
What would furhman have done with the glove he stole from the crime scene if OJ had been home? What would he have done if OJ had an alibi. Like leaving for Chicago BEFORE The murder. you'd have a bloody glove at OJ's place with someone else's blood on it. which would make zero sense. Everyone would've been going "How did that glove get there?"
Everybody knows O.J. viciously killed two innocent people.
Everybody also knows the jury and the court out of cowardice dropped the ball and continued to punish the families for decades. One of our legal systems darkest examples.
Lets total of evidence. OJ No alibi for when the murder occured. Hairs in cap found at scene match his. His blood found at crime scene, in the bronco, and on the glove found at his estate.
Bloody footprints made by expensive size 12 shoes. Exact match to his shoes. Expensive glove found at crime scene. Same type Nicole gave him.
Murderer cut his hand and dripped blood all over. OJ had cut hand and was dripping blood all his house when driven to Airport. Wow, what an amazing coincidence!
And when they asked OJ when/how he cut his hand, he first said I dunno, then he said he cut it in the Chicago Hotel room. And finally said he was "fixin the car radio and cut it". Because we all forget how we cut our hand and drip blood all over the kitchen.
It was a stupid reason to ignore all the evidence. It's a stupid reason for lots of things to this day.
Read Vincent Bugliosi's book on the trial: "Outrage". In it, he details, with prosecutorial precision, why the prosecution in the OJ debacle lost the case. Would the black jurors still have voted to convict? Probably. Outrage, indeed.
OJ was either guilty or the most unlucky man who ever lived. Incredibly the killer dripped his blood all over the crime scene, after stealing his expensive shoes and clothes, planting his type of hair in a cap, AND put Nicole and Goldman's blood in his Bronco.
And the Killer somehow knew OJ had cut his hand that night, and exactly when his flight to Chicago was.
Sadly, despite years searching for the Killer on various golf courses, OJ never found the killer.
Yeah...saying the N word is way worse than murdering two people in cold blood, and getting away with it. The headlines this morning are pathetic. Calling him disgraced, when they put poor little cancer victim (murderer) OJ Simson on their headlines....
Yancy.
You are assuming a murderer is as rational as you are. Given the condition of the bodies it's very likely that OJ was in a cocaine induced rage at the time. His behavior was not anything like rational.
Beyond the physical evidence which was more than sufficient and impossible to create, remember, he ran away and threatened to kill himself. Why?
Sadly, the evidence in the case was the least influential thing in the trial. Everything else was given great weight: the lawyers, the personalities, the press, skin color, fear, etc., What actually happened was ignored under all that. Many people have been convicted with a fraction of the evidence against O.J., who I was a big fan of before the murders, and who turned out to be one of the worst people ever handed fame.
Bag, if you were innocent but thought you were up against a racist system out to lynch you under color of law, you might run away and threaten to kill yourself. Or if you were a really crafty bastard who wanted people to think you were innocent etc. CC, JSM
Speaking of defense strategies, football player brain damage was not as big a thing back then. Wonder if he would have claimed it if the science was as developed and publicized as it is today? He did use it a little bit almost 20 years later in his armed-robbery case. And interestingly, his family would not let anyone look at his brain after his death.
Of course brain damage would be an affirmative defense, and his whole strategy in the murder case was to deny everything. CC, JSM
O.J. knew the cops were not racists. He was friends with some of them. O.J. was not some black thug from the hood. He was one of the elites , the anointed, and the system was always on his side, so I don't think he was worried about racism taking him down, and he obviously was right.
OJ's post murderous rage hangover explains the crime scene:
The psychological state of "blood simple" is a state of severe, irrational confusion, panic, and compromised sanity brought on by prolonged exposure to violence, murder, or deep guilt. It describes a mind deteriorating under the extreme stress of criminal involvement, leading to terrible judgment and tragic mistakes.The term was originally coined by hard-boiled crime novelist Dashiell Hammett in his 1929 book Red Harvest. It later became widely known as the title of the Coen Brothers' 1984 neo-noir debut film, serving as a perfect summary of the characters' mental descent.
A few years ago, I was in a barber shop. There were about 8-10 people. We were all white. You could say, very white. One of the people was a state cop. Not in uniform, but it was brought up in conversation. I didn't know anyone in the shop except the barber. It's safe to say that half or more in the room were similarly situated. This state cop was dropping the N word like it was 1952.
bag: "He was one of the elites , the anointed, and the system was always on his side, so I don't think he was worried about racism taking him down."
I tend to agree with you, but one can't completely discount the Rejection Dream members of identity groups have where they are contributing in a meeting and then suddenly everyone starts asking "who let one of them into the room?" The more accepted you are, the more intense this nightmare is.
Explains a lot of why members of protected groups strike back really hard as soon as they're questioned at all, even/especially when it's clearly on the merits. It's one of the lines in Derbyshire's Talk, although he does not explain the cause in this way.
And if one's theory of the case is that it was a drug- and CTE-hazed manslaughter rather than a premeditated murder, OJ may have feared that once the Model N***o proved to be imperfect, no more breaks would be given, even the ones an ordinary offender would get. CC, JSM
Howard, thanks for that. I have updated it for today's trying times:
The psychological state of "leftism" is a state of severe, irrational confusion, panic, and compromised sanity brought on by prolonged exposure to violence, murder, or deep guilt. It describes a mind deteriorating under the extreme stress of criminal involvement, leading to terrible judgment and tragic mistakes.
CC, JSM
Patton, yes, a certain amount of Notorious Epithet use is by whites who feel victimized by blacks. Urban or formerly urban whites who watched their cities crumble, for example. In this usage, it's like the French calling the Germans "Boche," Mexicans calling Anglos "Gringos," or indeed blacks calling whites "peckerwoods" or "ofay." It's the oppressed derogating the oppressor in a safe space. CC, JSM
I'm sure that Fuhrman, like the rest of us was just glad and relieved when, in keeping with his post-acquittal promise, OJ tracked down and found the real killer. Certainly, Fuhrman could feel fulfilled before going on to his eternal reward knowing that justice had been served, thanks to the innocent but unfairly accused OJ. What would we ever do without true heroes like OJ?
OJ was NEVER a model anything. He got his start as a teenage gang member in the low income Potrero Hill neighborhood. Arrested 3 times.
OJ was a "rag to riches" black marketing story in the Black Power and Affirmative Action era. Also consider how MLK's shady stuff was covered up as he was enshrined as a saint. Also see the recent Cesar Chavez fiasco.
Standard MO.
"Pretty clear, of course oj was protected by the lapd
So the defense narrative didnt make any sense
Exactly! It was his fame that got him off as much as anything. Chris Rock made the good point that if he drove a bus he would be known as "Orenthal the Bus Driving Killer."
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