O'Donnell: The so-called manifesto is a stunning thing to read. Mr. President, he appears to reference a motive. In it, he writes this, quote, "Administration officials, they are targets." And he also wrote this: "I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes." What's your reaction to that?
Trump: Well, I was waiting for you to read that because I knew you would, because you're horrible people. Horrible people. Yeah, he did write that. Uh, I'm not a rapist. I didn't rape anybody.
O'Donnell: Oh, you think he was referring to you?
Trump: Excuse me. Excuse me. Uh, I'm not a pedophile. You read that crap from some sick person. Uh, I got associated with stuff that has nothing to do with me. I was totally exonerated. Your friends on the other side of the plate are the ones that were involved with, let's say, Epstein or other things. But I said to myself, you know, I'll do this interview and they'll probably—I read the manifesto. You know, he's a sick person. But you should be ashamed of yourself reading that because I'm not any of those things.
O'Donnell: Mr. President, these are the gunman's words.
Trump: Excuse me. Excuse me. You shouldn't be reading that on "60 Minutes." You're a disgrace. But go ahead. Let's finish the interview....
Here's my first reaction to that, which I have accurately preserved because I immediately texted this to the person who'd sent me the video:
He really tried to intimidate her at one point, but she just put up with it and kept going. I thought that was admirable of her. Generally, he was fine, but I don’t think he should’ve been so mean to her at that one point.
After a little conversation at Meadhouse, I felt motivated to add this to my text conversation:
On the other hand, she and her people had selected one passage that could be read to his face in an effort to antagonize him and just poison the atmosphere so he threw it back at her and insisted on getting the upper hand. He’s a famously good counter puncher.
In the cold light of morning, I can see how these 2 positions are not inconsistent, but I won't trouble you with that. I'll just do a poll.
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1 – 200 of 212 Newer› Newest»Of course they were going to read that. It's absolutely perfect. WE didn't call you a pedophile, rapist, and traitor, it was somebody else as if he came up with that description on his own.
The problem is that not enough people on the right or the left (presumably there are a few on the left such as Fetterman who aren’t complete assholes and/or idiots) or in the media who do push back.
He tried to intimidate Norah O'Donnell ? Seriously? How about he tried to shame her into being a better (or an actual) journalist? Imagine anyone at 60 Minutes asking that kind of question to a prominent Democrat. If they did so it would be their last day on the job and they know it.
Holy crap. The media literally created this guy, and then threw his words, that he got FROM the media in trumps face and you think he was mean to the interviewer? WTaF?
She wasn't "holding her own", either. She was deflecting responsibility for being the source of Cole's claims.
Why do you think he was referring to you? As if the press has never reported any of those accusations.
It was the gunman's words. As if he wasn't parroting claims we see every day from every lefty bot commenting here.
You cannot despise the media enough.
The media created that image of Trump. Of course they’re going to wear it out loud.
Anything on 60 Minutes in an election year is produced only to help Democrats get elected. No other reason. Apparently the think tanks and law firms have Mr Trump don’t you feel responsible for us trying to kill you? as a weapon in their arsenal this cycle…
You know the rest of the media was sending her congratulatory tweets on labelling Trump a rapist etc….
Obama would be considered courageous for rejecting that question with equal vigor. Then again, he would never be asked it in that way in the first place. The two media narratives emerging from this assassination attempt are equally grotesque and merit nothing but contempt: does Trump think the assassin was targeting him, and what does Trump feel about being called a pedophile and a rapist, as if such false accusations are legitimate and are cause to murder him and others. O'Donnell got the response she deserved.
To ask this poll question is to know the answer.
When I saw that clip on social media, I thought it was AI.
The Dems have inspired three - three! - people to try to kill him. These would-be assassins get their Fake News from the MSM.
Right after the latest attempt, many Dems absurdly suggested that it was staged in order to distract from Epstein.
The media and Dems are united in their unjustified effort to get Trump.
Notice how calm and cool Trump was. He’s tired of this BS.
Trump is the most mentally tough person I’ve ever seen. The IRGC better realize that and do that deal.
If there's no contemporaneous police report, it didn't happen.
Trump: “You should be ashamed of yourself.”
Trump knows, I know, we all know the media has no shame.
"Pedophile" is an epithet they decided to use before they lose. The ongoing accelerating convergence of islamofascism with garden variety Democrat-Socialist fascism is going to put a crimp in their use of that term. When half your coalition see 10YO girls as marriageable then the word kind of loses its sting. The same way they wore out racism. The party of Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse would like a word.
Nora, many people in this nation consider nothing but a sock-puppet for the DNC. What's your reaction to that?
And holistically speaking, can someone right of center actually be "too mean" to a member of the seditious anti-profession of "journalist?" We are constantly slandered by the media, a decidedly "left wing" media, that labels everything normal and traditional as Far Right Wing. Not just rightish, FAR right. Every time.
The sins of the media demand extreme contempt from the American public. Trump went easy on O'Donnell. They wrote the script, fed it to the crazies, quoted the perp saying it and read it back to Trump, completing the news creation loop they love so much.
I don’t watch 60 Minutes, but did she follow up by reading from the Steele dossier?
Would CBS have done that to JFK?
Thats the standard.
Why should we worry about Norah's feelings?
They should another 10 million dollars
What was the news value of reading those quotes to the President? Zero!
OT, but no less out there: I would like any reporter to ask any voter why there is any congresscritter (traditional term) in the form of Sheldon Whitehouse.
And that very cute “Oh, you think he was referring to you?“
What a bitch.
O’Donnell: Oh, you think he was referring to you?
That was the pre-planned set-up. I wonder how many times they practiced it with her.
"Oh...do you think he was referring to you?"
She is the walking definition of disingenuous. They continue to play serious journalist when in reality they are always playing 'gotcha'. The President- and the nation- could smell that coming from a mile away.
Awful people.
For the left, the biggest problem is this latest would-be assassin exposed a security breach that they will now be unable to exploit in the future.
Sheldon whitehouse company legacy
I have sugar ants invading my kitchen this time of year. I calmly squish them, poison them, go outside to dispose of the source/nest but their supply seems endless. They remind me of Norah O'Donnell, the liberal press and Democrat politicians. They stay on track with their goal of bringing down Trump in any way they can. Norah gave off a frantic vibe to pursue her mission to dirty Trump and try to make him look bad.
The internet informs me that "Norah O’Donnell’s reported annual salary at CBS News is around $8 million [which] reflects her role as anchor and managing editor of CBS Evening News and her other CBS assignments, such as co-hosting CBS This Morning and serving as a senior correspondent for 60 Minutes."
JournoListic Innuendo (J.I.), Judicial Indescretion (J.I.), and social progress were the motives for the assassin to entertain abortive ideation to relieve a "burden" of state.
He shoulda kicked her right in the pussy, then dropped the heel on her cunt face. So no, he wasn’t too “mean” to her.
Imagine someone claimed Althouse was an adulterer as obvious by her having been married twice. Then that someone attempted to physically harm Althouse and anyone associated with her, such as Meade, with that claim of adultery being the excuse.
Having survived the potential assault, the question poised to Althouse, perhaps after a discussion of her reaction to the potential assault, is “what’s your reaction to being called an adulterer?” Would she claim “the notion I’m an adulterer is ludicrous both on merit and as an excuse to violence”? Would she claim “the attacker is sick as is everything they think, say, and act”? Might she protest whatever system (media, poor education, religion, etc.) that convinced the attacker that her life has anything to do with being an adulterer?
If it isn’t clear. I don’t think Althouse is an adulterer or deserving of most written attacks on her character. But she is the head of this blog, which comes with insight in her personal life and exposure to whack accusations of her character. Does that mean a “legitimate” news organization is just in bringing up every accusation made against her and demanding she defend them? Especially when a third person, who was charged with literally defending her, is injured by the attacker, and that injury is also excused by the attacker via that claim?
In the cold light of morning, I can see how these 2 positions are not inconsistent, but I won't trouble you with that. I'll just do a poll:
He really tried to intimidate her at one point, but she just put up with it and kept going. I thought that was admirable of her. Generally, he was fine, but I don’t think he should’ve been so mean to her at that one point.
This is so disgusting. There is no "two sides" to this. This is what is wrong with America right now. Stupid women like Ann who think it is OK to just call men rapists and pedophiles.
Why do you think that is OK Ann? You voted for Bill Clinton. You knew he was a rapist. Do you support rape Ann?
What happens when we start treating you like you are treating us?
I thought Barry Weiss was going to make CBS a more honest news organization. If O'Donnell still has a job next week we'll know it's just "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
I find it illuminating that Norah Odonell isn't even hiding the fact she wants Trump killed.
Why not argue both sides, “was O’Donnell to mean to Trump”?
From richard clarke to rather gate to that in kind contribution to obama its entirely lillian hellman
The real political subtext here is that the assassination attempt rained on Obama's carefully timed, triumphant, though essestially no-show return to "unite" the Democrats. I bet he could not be more livid. He should think even longer before he speaks, if that is possible. This should reopen queries about his 8+ year relations with real terrorist groups. The great orator really screwed up everything he said in the wake of the event. He could have spun it differently, as at Carter's funeral, and actually gained points. Trump would have invited him to the White House. It was previously a real opportunity for him, to be fair. He screwed it up.
Trump is a Honey Badger. If they let him, he would have served the reporters Burger King and disarmed that foppish incel himself. But he was clearly concerned for both Melania and the young female Asian reporter running the event. Who else could do such a relaxed, yet blade-sharp presser in under an hour and tolerate the idiot wind gotcha questions they asked, with panache? He was smart. He just gave them more rope to expose themselves by answering their dumb and dumber questions.
How did the shooter get from a member of a "nerf club" to a gun affiando? Why was he called a teacher when he was a tutor who may never have held what is understood by the rest of us as a full-time job? That's the key to his real political affiliations and the mefia's toxic perfidy. Did he still live with his wealthy parents at 31? A disability or mental breakdown would explain that, kindly, and it would be met with understanding. We need real reporters to contextualize the real story. It looks like a kind and functional family. Did he have a mental issue?
He tried to kill a federal agent. Point blank. Life in prison, no parole. Enough. Those fine public servants risked their lives to save people who hate them. Meanwhile, at the same time, two cops ambushed in a hospital in Chicago: one dead, one clinging to life.
Because of the last exercise,
Its the color revolution that datarepublican has spelled
The witch read the guy's manifesto right on national TV. The assassin has to be pretty happy about that. And, his manifesto lies are just regurgitated talking point you can hear on CNN panels every night.
How was this different than asking, “Your rapist called you a dirty slut who asked for it. Care to comment?”
Like the mad scientist is fallout but that was fake
Thank you Wince for being succinct.
"Oh, you think he was referring to you"? Who the fuck else did The Witch think was being referenced? Such an obvious, stupid game. She knew EXACTLY who was being referenced. Is the what passes for intelligent among the AWFLs?
It is physically impossible to be "too mean" to a journalist.
Hey Trump someone called you a rapist pedophile traitor. Not me. Just someone crazy guy who tried to kill you. Got a response? Because y'know people are wondering if you were. Just askin'
This is to be expected from 60 minutes. And from the Democrats/left. But then I repeat myself.
1. Bari should fire Norah.
2. Will this poll be the most lopsided in Althouse blog history?
JournoListic jingoism published with liberal license is a progressive woke of art. Abort.
Go read the manifesto. Nora O'Dummy could've asked any number of things related to the manifesto. And the logical questions would be "Gee Trump, why do we have all these crazies trying to assassinate people?" and "Do you think Anti-Trumpers should dialed down their rhetoric? Is it having an affect on nuts?" And "Where does all this hatred for Christianity come from?"
Instead its "Hey, please rebut the charge you're a pedophile rapist".
Trump's almost 80 and he's stuck in Media World 1995. Nobody under the age of 65 watches 60 minutes and their leftwing/Democrat propaganda. I suppose Trump wanted to talk to the country and this is the media outlet with the biggest reach. But we all know they're pigs and propagandists.
O'Donnel used the shooter's manifesto to call Trump a rapist. Theñ cowardly hid behind fake,plausible deniability. Snuffleupagus did the same thing when he said a jury found Trump guilty of rape. Cost ABC $12 million.
Yes shes shameless
Once again, Democrats bending over backwards to make Trump look good and themselves like evil ghouls. And in other news, the response by the blog mistress on this very site indicated she was initially impressed by the reporteress until a man told her that she was full of shit in a very polite way so as to still maintain access. You ladies are not defending the wisdom of the 19th amendment very well. In fact, your sex is making Achilles and rhhardin look like wise sages In regard to you Suffragette City: wham bam, thank you ma'am
O’Donnell has proven time and time again what a big asshole she is. She fits in well where she’s landed.
I haven't seen any reaction from Thune or Schumer to the assassination. But then both of them seem to have disappeared from public view for the last year. Quite a change from J6, when the hysterical Senators with their pants wet from fear couldn't stop talking in public about the "insurrection".
I want to thank Norah Odonell for being a complete piece of shit on live TV.
The Democrat party couldn't be doing a better job of making decent people hate them.
Everyone who even gives these people a shred of credibility or concern is really just morally bankrupt. We cannot have a free country like this.
Looking at you Ann. People do not even seem to be aware of how awful they are acting right now.
Do people really not understand what would happen right now if Trump was killed? Do you really take it that lightly? Do you really not understand what would happen all around the world? Not just here in the US which would turn into its own bloodbath. Think about what happens in the ME, South America, Asia, Europe.
There are a lot of people that need to grow up and understand what is at stake here.
Rc ocean. You need to think your thoughts more carefully. On the one hand, you're absolutely correct. Nobody of substance actually watches 60 minutes. However, billions upon billions of people watch the brief short clips that go viral from that show. "Gee Trump is stuck in the '90s cuz he's so stupid. He goes on to 60 minutes and no one watches it. And here I am commenting on a viral clamp that the whole world has been watching over and over again."
He's the most effective user of modern communication in the history of the planet. Being underestimated like he is is a superpower. You don't have to like the asshole to appreciate the absolutely tremendous accomplishments that this demented huckster in a diaper who can barely hold a single thought in his pee brain can accomplish.
BTW, I just saw a shocking poll that showed that almost 10 percent of liberal/leftists think an assassination of Musk or Trump would be "completely justified". Why Liberal/leftists want to kill Musk is a puzzle until you realize Libtards don't think. They follow the party line they see in the MSM. Once the leftwing elite put out the party line "Hate Musk. Hate ICE" they just follow.
Prairie dog thune is in his burrow
The question is whether going on Fox News instead of 60 minutes would've been just as useful. And does it really help Trump to see a charge of pedophila or rape "Go viral"? I suppose what Trump says in the rest of the interview outweighs that.
And I hate to see a pig leftwing show like 60 minutes get the ratings. They don't deserve it. In fact they deserve to get cancelled since CBS uses the public airwaves and is not supposed to Leftwing and partisan. WHich it is.
I wouldnt have known it was on, (if not for coming here)
Baruch weiss is no frank hackett
Howard said…
You ladies are not defending the wisdom of the 19th amendment very well. In fact, your sex is making Achilles and rhhardin look like wise sages In regard to you Suffragette City: wham bam, thank you ma'am
Just to make it clear again it isn’t being a woman that should disqualify you from voting. It is being a stupid selfish woman that should disqualify you from voting. I think being a stupid selfish man should disqualify you from voting as well.
Do you think Nora O'Donnell believes that Trump is a racist? Does she care if it's true or not?
I don't know how anyone can feel anything but disgust and contempt for the Democrat Party, Democrat Party members, and Democrat Party leaders. This disgust and contempt extends to defenders of the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party which has directed their allies in the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party to attack and kill Donald Trump and Republican leaders, and to harass and vilify Republican voters.
You Democrat Party members have got fucking nerve to criticize President Trump's manners in an interview the day after another attempt on his life in the presence of his wife. Sick and disgusting behavior and attitude from our moral superiors in the Party of abortion, ignorance, corruption, assassination, and domestic terrorism. Go fuck yourselves. You have nothing to say to normies and patriotic Americans. Nothing.
Norah - "President Trump, there have now been three attempts on your life in the last two years based solely on the lies we have repeatedly spread about you (and, of course, our repeatedly calling you literal Hitler). What is your reaction to that?"
Trump - "You are horrible, disgusting people."
Althouse - "Trump is a dick. Why is he so mean to that nice lady?"
Too hard on her? They're stoking this madness. You can not hate these people enough.
The media lie about everything and are ashamed of absolutely nothing. They’ve earned the contempt.
I think I can name 5 of the (currently) 7 voters in the poll who chose our hostess’ first response…and they are all mad-dog, hairshirted, Inga-Cook-type lefties of the bug-eyed variety. It cannot be said often enough: the current crop of lefties are nasty hateful little shits.
- Krumhorn
A teachable (pun intended) moment that we can Lear (sic) from.
Would the question of whether Trump was being mean be asked if the interviewer was a man?
it has to be pointed out how completely in distinguishable Cole Allen’s manifesto is compared to what every Democrat is saying right now.
he is also shocking. How even at the dinner how completely nonchalant people were about the third attempt on Trump’s life.
people are now just accepting left-wing violence as normal. This is untenable. Just because they are pathetic does not mean this is acceptable.
Just to make it clear again it isn’t being a woman that should disqualify you from voting. It is being a stupid selfish woman that should disqualify you from voting. I think being a stupid selfish man should disqualify you from voting as well.
Yes, Diversity (i.e. bloc and class-disordered ideologies): racism, sexism, ageism, etc. have no place in civilized society. This is a matter of character. #NoJudgment? #NoLabels? #Whatever
sometimes I wish Trump could speak as well as Rubio and JD Vance.
Of course she read that to smear him. But Trump should have been ready for it with something higher notch.
Nora is a horrible person. She's a hack Soviet d
Was Donald Trump too mean to Norah O'Donnell...?
Is it possible to be too mean to Nora O'Donnell?
The fake allegations from E Jean - that was all staged so that the media could call him a rapist.
Epstein - where not a single person on the left cared about it during the Crook Joe years - They manufactured a fake drawing. They manufacture all sorts of fake.
Pedophile - There is actual evidence pointing at Bill Clinton, and the left do not care.
"He really tried to intimidate her at one point, but she just put up with it and kept going. I thought that was admirable of her" He tried to intimidate her. She just put of with it. She is admirable. When even Althouse, she of the cruel neutrality, somewhere to the right of the left, can write something like this, you know we are truly effed. Lasciate ogni speranza.
Achilles lives in an on-line fantasy land where he can build a cartoon world where "stupid women" don't get to vote. LOL.
sometimes I wish Trump could speak as well as Rubio and JD Vance.
On one hand, on the other hand... we're imperfect. But, yes, eloquence would be a welcome statesman coupled with a effective executive.
Meade has it right.
O'Donnell is shrill and viper for the Ds. She would never ask anything like that to Obama or Bideon or Clinton. President Trump was right counter punch. I keep hearing true words "you cannot hate our press enough". She is even worse than the Smug lady on Meet the Press. Marget something. Paid propagandists.
At level A - better to be a scalpel than a rusty hammer.
but Trump is right - the hack D soviet media are horrible people. The Hack ?D Soviet Media are 100% to blame for the assassins actions.
He was talking to Norah, but his heart belongs to Rosie.
The problem with this odious, polarized behavior is not that it exists only with Progressives. It exists on both sides. But for Republicans, it stays in the fringes. With Progressives, it's shouted from every media outlet, nurtured, encouraged. It lives in their mainstream. Trump is absolutely right to confront it at every instance, and call it out by name, and correct the record in real time. But it still isn't a winning battle. It can't be, while the Progressive Left controls the microphone.
Michael F. @ 8:04
THAT
Like that french proverb 'what a wicked animal'
O'Donnell: Oh, you think he was referring to you?
That is 100% pure Soviet leftist democratic a-hole.
Of course the democrat assassin was referring to Trump.
saying it like that, is ODonnels way of agreeing with the Assassin.
The CBS person was just shoving that line up Trump’s ass like the jerk she is. It’s like Lyndon Johnson, she wants to make him deny the shooters statement, a pure purposeful propagandist who deserves no courtesy or respect at all. A partisan flack hack.
“Nora, if you and I are both out on 5th Ave, and I yell out ‘hey, stupid evil twat!’ and you turn around, what does that mean, by your logic?” CC, JSM
She was going to read that in any case, but the "Oh, you think he was referring to you?" was something she threw in on her own. Faux naivete or real naivete. Haven't we had enough of that? People pretending not to know things that are true and pretending to know things that they don't know.
Bari Weiss is a single-issue gal, and the Ellisons don't care about politics enough to rein in CBS. They've delegated that to Bari and what she does is up to her.
Extra points to Trump for saying they're horrible people, instead of limiting himself to saying that she's a horrible person. That blunts the personal nature of the response and is also a purely accurate representation of his opinion (which I share. "Did you think he was talking about you?" indeed).
John Mosby @ 8:34. An experiment that should be tried. over and over.
That part Nora quoted from the assassin's notes was lifted verbatim from Ro Kanna's video last week. An elected democrat said the exact words the would-be killer quoted. You'd think the NYT could connect those dots. They still blame Palin for Gabby's shooting and Sarah didn't even wish death on her.
You cannot despise Norah O’Donnell enough.
Khanna should sue for plagiarism
Ann said
Was Donald Trump too mean to Norah O'Donnell on "60 Minutes" last night?
Would you have asked that question if the interviewer had been a man?
I doubt it would have ever crossed your mind that President Trump had been mean to a male presstitute. let alone "too" mean.
John Henry
Oh yes you can (shes at 4000 kilocourics)
“Oh, you think he was referring to you.”
This is the dark brilliance of the left which no Republican can ever master. First the “Oh.” Such devious faux surprise. “It never occurred to me,” she serpentinely compresses into one two-letter word. Now she can innocently proceed with the vile indictment because Trump himself made it.
The left/right divide stands on opposite cliff edges of that “Oh” chasm. It’s the difference between aggressive and passive-aggressive, between straight up and oblique, between the spirit of the law and the letter of it. It’s what got Eve to bite the forbidden fruit and what got Jesus crucified. The Right and especially Trump will never be good at this insidious verbal tactic but one good thing is this: Trump knows straight up aggression wins in the end.
Trump blames eight million people for the attack.
"The reason you have people like that is you have people doing 'no kings.' I'm not a king. If I was a king I wouldn't be dealing with you." ~ Donald Trump
And of course there was January 6, 2021. This seems to have been forgotten, so it's worth reminding everyone: The president encouraged a mob to go the Capitol to overthrow the results of a free and fair election using physical force. The mob tried to lynch the vice president. Trump still has not been held to account for his actions. Instead, he has undermined the rule of law, and helped normalize political violence, by pardoning his MAGA thugs.
RJ said...
You cannot despise Norah O’Donnell enough.
Ditto
Or any of the other presstitutes, male and female.
And, since the presstitutes just do what the bosses want, the bosses. The Sulzbergers, Bezos, Murdochs and all the rest.
John Henry
They are horrible people, and they are utterly shameless. May karma visit them good and hard.
Quoting from a suspect’s manifesto, especially if it references a public figure, is absolutely fair game. It’s relevant, and a journalist would be hard-pressed to ignore it. But the specific selection of which lines to quote—and how they’re presented in an interview—is not neutral. It shapes the tone of the exchange and, to some degree, the reaction it produces.
That doesn’t mean the question was improper. It means it was a choice.
And that’s where I think Ann is trying to redirect the conversation. Not toward defending Trump’s tone, but toward recognizing that journalism isn’t just about what’s true—it’s also about how truth is framed, introduced, and delivered. Interviews aren’t passive events; they’re constructed interactions.
At the same time, there’s a balance here that shouldn’t get lost. If a manifesto contains disturbing or politically charged content, confronting a public figure with it is part of the job. Journalism that avoids discomfort risks becoming access-driven rather than accountability-driven.
So the real question isn’t whether the exchange was “too mean” or “too aggressive.” It’s whether it was more informative than performative. Did it help the public better understand the issue, or did it primarily generate a moment?
Reasonable people can land on either side of that. But stepping back and examining how the moment was constructed—before deciding what to think about it—is probably the more useful exercise.
https://notthebee.com/article/meet-the-teachers-when-decided-to-publicly-voice-their-displeasure-that-trump-wasnt-murdered-over-the-weekend
They must profess their hatred
Shipwreckedcrew
@shipwreckedcrew
So a public school teacher in Calif. travels to DC with a collection of weapons. He has booked a room at the hotel where a highly publicized event is taking place with the POTUS as guest of honor. He has a large presence on social media, and he has written manifesto concerning his views.
And absolutely no one in his circle of friends or fellow travelers knows anything about it?????
Not likely.
This could get interesting.
If only there were people who could connect the dots
Part of this issue has to do with the fact that women don't really want equality with men they just want all of the rewards of having power and influence at the same level of men without having to fulfill the same level of responsibility. Perhaps if women practiced chivalry we might take their claims of equality more seriously.
Men confront men all the time. Most of the time it is with words and arguments that can get heated. Sometimes you have to blow off some steam to diffuse the situation and to get someone to understand that they are not going to allow you to fuck with them. I remember in elementary school there was a 5th grade teacher who had parachuted behind the lines into Normandy. He taught us boys in his classroom and on the playground that you don't cross boundaries. However, if someone crossed a boundary with you, you we're justified to retaliate and to defend your boundaries either with words or fists.
Women in the workplace arena declaring themselves to want equality have no idea that crossing boundaries has consequences and are shocked and offended when they are called to the carpet on their use of fighting words.
It's not your fault. We've been treating you like children and you behave like little girls and call it emotional intelligence when in fact it is neither. It's calculated stupidity because you don't think men can defend themselves with vigor because of the tradition that it is inappropriate for a man to hit back at a girl. I think part of it is many women still think they have the power of the pussy over men, but that doesn't work in a business environment nowadays and so women are finding it frustrating that they actually have to do the hard quiet work that men do and open themselves up to constructive criticism and understand what true teamwork and leadership entails.
I thought it was interesting that she (or her producers) chose the word "stunning" to describe the so-called manifesto.
Norah, tell us exactly what stunned you about it?
This is a good time to re-read the decision in Carroll v. Trump.
Innuendo is the art of acute affirmative passive aggressive.
Wilbur - 9:02
Exactly what Trump should have asked.
Will no one abort this "burden"!?
#LoveTrumpsHate
#HateTrumpsLove
#HateLovesAbortion
QED
"This would be a great time for Democrats to admit Trump is not actually a pedophile, rapist or traitor. Just telling the truth would go a long way to reducing the insanity."
Its kind of trite regurgitation of talking points but that flies right over her head
A Special Peculiar Learing (sic) Consensus progresses with liberal licenses. Abort. Sequester.
Also, good job to everyone on cable news last night and this morning congratulating Trump for his new tone of unity.
Mean or average? Linear or chaotic? Deterministic or stochastic? A well tread calculus in general dysphoria.
There's another double standard at play here.
Norah O'Donnell is 52 years old, she has been the anchor for a major network's evening news, she now is that network's Chief White House Correspondent, and she has more than twenty-five years of experience as a major network news journalist.
Would anyone be buzzing about Trump being "mean" if the same scenario played out with a male journalist of comparable position and experience?
Eric Matheny 🎙️
@ericmmatheny
The modern left emerged in 2016.
The shooting of Steve Scalise didn’t have the cultural impact it should have. It became a mental health/gun safety issue.
But truth is, it was the Left’s Fort Sumter.
We should’ve seen what was coming.
The violent Left has been years in the making.
7:31 AM · Apr 27, 2026
https://x.com/ericmmatheny/status/2048726679296651489?s=20
Kak-A-Dem-bot - Your party wants Trump dead.
It was a malicious question. He responded with an appropriate put down. Then, they both moved on and finished the interview. Norah's supporters will congratulate her for speaking truth to power or whatever. I give her two points for not losing her poise. Trump supporters will congratulate him for calling her out. I give him some points for not calling her a dumb bitch who asks stupid, malicious questions. His response was relatively muted. I don't think either party lost any support among their supporters.
"And absolutely no one in his circle of friends or fellow travelers knows anything about it?????"
Apparently, his family had reported his disturbing behavior to the police.
I rarely criticize Althouse for her left of center viewpoints on things. She's smart and willing to challenge her own assumptions on a near daily basis. Something to be admired and rarely seen in political argument. But I find the fact that anyone can reach either interpretation of what happened in the interview mystifying. What is the nature of her thought processes that allow willful ignorance to play a role in her conclusions? Most of the time I would place the blame on stupidity or dishonesty, but don't think that's a possibility here. But like most leftist reasoning there's an aversion to reality underlying the thinking process that is totally foreign to me. Very strange.
The point of my comment is made above. Others make the points about what was said, but really just boils down to the fact that O'Donnell insulted the POTUS on national news knowing full well she was doing it. What I don't get is how a different good faith conclusion can be reached.
Achilles said...
Do people really not understand what would happen right now if Trump was killed? Do you really take it that lightly? Do you really not understand what would happen all around the world? Not just here in the US which would turn into its own bloodbath. Think about what happens in the ME, South America, Asia, Europe.
4/27/26, 7:50 AM
No, what exactly would happen? The Vichy GOP would immediately try to go back to the Bush era while the FBI frantically tried to round up as many dissident influencers before the dam burst. Under those circumstances, you can hardly blame President Trump for thinking that he has to carry the play pretty much by himself.
As for NOD, the President had a fine opportunity to introduce her to the concept of "fighting words."
I voted the first because I knew it would only GARNER about 4% of the total vote.
Quick search and Mike Davis declares "gloves off" like every chance he can.
Didn’t they do this after the last assassination attempt? claim that they were going to go no more Mr. Nice Guy and take the gloves off?
How many pair of gloves are they wearing? At some point you wonder why a man is apparently wearing gloves all day every day.
O'Donnell: Mr. President, these are the gunman's words.
And they're false.
Repeating things that she knows are false marks O'Donnell as a bad person, who deserved to be attacked by Trump, and by every decent human being.
"Report the news" doesn't mean "repeat people's lies when they're politically sympatico"
With anyone else it would be described as ‘truth to power’. Why shouldn’t the president be allowed the same privilege?
96% favoring Trump. Must be rigged. /sarc
The leftmediaswine are crazy as bedbugs and mean as snakes. There is no point in arguing with them or with Democrats. If Trump goes on with them to point that out, great. Maybe some of the dupes will get it. Trump’s “meanness” should only be limited if it appears his target may gain sympathy.
doctrev: "No, what exactly would happen? The Vichy GOP would immediately try to go back to the Bush era while the FBI frantically tried to round up as many dissident influencers before the dam burst."
Agree with you on the Vichy GOP. But anyone in the 47 admin is if not a card-carrying MAGAite, then at least someone who's plighted their troth to Trump. Which means they know they are in for Dem lawfare, and now just warfare, while the RINOs stand aside and look.
Which means the survivors of the 47 admin will keep fighting harder if Trump is killed. Some to keep the MAGA faith - others out of offensive self-defense. The Bureau under Kash won't be trying to prophylactically lock up righties, that's for sure. JD Pinochet will definitely be on the revenge tip. Same with Francisco Hegseth and all the other Fox people in the Cabinet. Rubio Galtieri will keep Trump's foreign policy going, if only because he's an attention to detail guy.
And we haven't even gotten yet to the Trump family members who have been participating actively in diplomacy. They will either keep those efforts going, or, if the country is really swinging the other way, they'll get their foreign contacts to do other stuff, iykwim.
And finally Musk, a real-freakin-life Bond villain. You'd suddenly have an epidemic of Dem pols eaten by sharks. With lasers on their heads! CC, JSM
President Trump Job Approval ~ Real Clear Politics
57.7 -- disapprove
40.5 -- approve
Fox News Poll: 56% doubt White House’s competence at managing government
"A 56% majority of voters say the Trump administration has not been competent at managing the federal government, according to a Fox News poll released Wednesday. Two in 10 Republicans join most independents (7 in 10) and Democrats (9 in 10) in holding that view, while 4 in 10 non-MAGA Republicans also agree."
And of course there was January 6, 2021.
It's funny you must go back five years - and counting - to find right-wing malfeasance.
It's like you don't realize you're confirming the other side's argument.
President Trump Job Approval ~ Real Clear Politics
(checking....) Yep. Still President.
Not only that, Howard (9:02), but those equality-driven American women raised on Wonder Woman, Supergirl and even Lara Croft, have no concept of the power of a right hook thrown by a man of average strength.
The word "mean" in the notion of Trump's being "mean" to these left wing "journalist" assholes by whom he has been antagonized, slandered, libeled, and otherwise viciously assailed for a decade, beggars definition.
Can you possibly imagine what the headlines this morning would have been if Trump had ignored the content of the excerpt? "Trump Doesn't Deny He Is Pedophile And Racist."
Someone early yesterday posted a summary of the media's reaction and I wonder if this segment had been released prior to the interview's broadcast- "Do you feel any blame for us trying to kill you, President Trump?"
Bich, there is exactly as much evidence that Trump raped Carroll as there is that you did it. Exactly the same amount.
“Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow.” - a line from Jimmy Kimmel's WHCD skit. Are we supposed to pretend these constant network attacks on Trump are just organic? This morning Melania is being "mean" to Kimmel on X.
Not the same amount - Trump has a penis and likes girls, at least. CC, JSM
In a nutshell: The whole point of taking a vote and having an election is to prevent violence. Leftists are sore losers who have decided they will reject any outcome and escalate to violence if they cannot rig the process in their favor.
Fugitive Caesar
@ThomBrady5
when Democrats lose elections, they declare the election was illegitimate and Democrats start rioting, assassinating Republicans. This is untenable and cannot be tolerated. Our government doesn't work if one side refuses to share power and resources according to elections.
https://x.com/ThomBrady5/status/2048614831951954390?s=20
Perhaps Kimmel should get a taste of what he preaches.
O’D, And he also wrote this: "I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes…Oh, do you think he was talking about you?”
DJT, “Me? No. I think he was talking about Eric Swalwell.”
Wow. She blames him for RFK Jr. and Kirk's wife's trauma?
What the fuck was he supposed to do? It's an event put on by HER association. He was an invited guest. Why didn't they make sure it was secure?
She's openly blaming him. While he praised the organizer of the media organization, singled her out, and showered her with kindness, protection, and deference. What a waste of an average haircut on a sub-par journalism reader. These people are a clown circus. Even I didn't think 60 Minutes could wallow deeper in their own crap. Amazing. She may as well have been wearing a giant red ball on her nose.
TinyEE® announces it’s Weak Suck Monday for his ilk.
I cannot for the life of me understand how the Secret Service allowed both Prez and VP to be in the same room in such proximity. The Speaker of the House was not at the head table but was upfront and close.
Had this loser gotten through, and had a pump shotgun(?) or explosive, he could have easily taken out all three.
Hello President Chuck Grassley.
"Loser" is what we should call him. Unsuccessful game developer (Self-published one game that sells for $1.99), not a "teacher" but a tutor tutoring rich kids whose parents can pay extra. Not even a full-time tutor but a part timer. Lives with his parents at 32 years old.
A degree from Cal and a Masters and he can't get a regular full time job doing something?
Yeah, "loser" is the word to use for him. "Top of the World, Ma. Everybody knows my name now!"
As Paul Harvey used to say when reporting on people like this "He'd like me to use his name. So I won't"
Loser is good enough.
John Henry
"And that very cute “Oh, you think he was referring to you?“
What a bitch."
Yeah, that's where Althouse' new rule kicked in for me.
The loser carried a shotgun. Not loaded with slugs but buckshot. His excuse was that he didn't want to shoot through walls but he could have just as accurately said he wanted to cause maximum carnage. There is a reason that shotguns were called "trench brooms" in the army.
And he could also say he did it on presidential advice. None other than Joe Biden recommended the use of shotguns on several occasions for killing people. Through a door, specifically in the case of an intruder or, more generally, during an earthquake. (Yeah, didn't make sense to me, either)
John Henry
O'Donnell: The so-called manifesto is a stunning thing to read. Mr. President, he appears to reference a motive. In it, he writes this, quote, "Administration officials, they are targets."
She's sending a message to the leftist crazies (BIRM) out there to try harder next time.
"I cannot for the life of me understand how the Secret Service allowed both Prez and VP to be in the same room in such proximity."
I strongly doubt the Secret Service calls the shots. They can only advise.
I think it's a good question: 'How did this happen?' and I think the responsibility resides with the White House. Personally, I don't know what the President was doing there in the first place; I wouldn't give the lying scum in the media my valuable time, but that's his call. But what in the world was the Vice-President doing there? Really dumb decision.
"O'Donnell: The so-called manifesto is a stunning thing to read. Mr. President, he appears to reference a motive. In it, he writes this, quote, "Administration officials, they are targets.""
Wonder where he got that idea, Norah.
RJW: good point.
Also, cruel neutrality implies judgment, right?
My partner liked Norah, a good middle class Irish Catholic girl. Daughter of a doctor. One husband, three beautiful kids. She did well with Charlie Rose, against Gayle King. Then the latter helped destroy Rose, and Norah was, essentially, on her own.
Norah was good, being the nice one in the middle, between Charlie and rabid Gayle King on the left. But with Rose taken out, she has taken on the role of the nice girl asking mean questions, for no other reason that those are the questions that CBS has given her. Has she become the rabid leftist that she portrays on TV. I refuse to believe that. Rather, I think she does it because that’s what it has taken her to get ahead at CBS.
Trump looks pretty tired to me, although maybe I've just never noticed the shadows under his eyes. I do know how wearying the Presidency is for Our Leader.
Anyway, why would anyone quote from a deranged person's Manifesto. What point is trying to be made (he asked rhetorically).
Let's not over-think this. When journalists do stuff like this, it's just trying to show off for their friends. It's like a third grader making a face behind the teacher's back. Nothing more to it.
Trump is neither a rapist nor a pedophile. The evidence for the first came from a loony leftist, attacking Trump for political reasons. Her allegations never passed the smell test, and had almost no corroboration. Stupid bimbo didn’t even remember when her “rape” ever occurred (knowing that Trump could probably prove he wasn’t there. And the “proof” of Trump being a pedophile is that he knew Epstein, and Epstein pimped out 17 year old hotties, who certainly didn’t look prepubescent.
Everyone hates rapists and pedophiles, so Trump, being hated, must be one. Of course, most of the rapists and real pedophiles are on the left, esp the elite left where Norah resides. She should be sensitive to this, by the way her coworkers at CBS took out her friend Charlie Rose. But, I think that her ambition got in her way.
Not involved with Epstein. Good to know.
Victor Davis Hanson on Assassination Chic .
“Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow.” - a line from Jimmy Kimmel's WHCD skip
He is EIGHTY YEAR OLD! How long do you think he is going to live!? Kimmel is unfunny as fuck, but the prissy right wing pearl clutching is so fucking tiring. Did you NEVER make jokes about Geriatric Joe kicking the bucket? I fucking did. And I make the same jokes about Adult Diaper Don.
Stop being such pussy little "dish out out but can't take it" punk, crybaby, snowflakes. Why don't fucking pussies just become democrats already if you like getting your feelings hurt all time! Boo hoo!
And, fuck Melania (Mail Order Bride/Prostitute to the Billionaire Class). Did she speak out where her pants shitting husband denigrated the Reiner family after they were murdered. Why should I give one fuck about her and her puke bucket family, now? Good for the goose, good for the gander. More civility bullshit from MAGA.
Kak-a-bot-a-Democratic.
Trump is not running for office again.
Also - YOUR PARTY WANTS HIM DEAD.
@Bruce Hayden, I disagree. I remember her work in 2020 as well. She is not simply reading her lines, she's an advocate, part of the Legacy Media (D) machine, a true believer. If she's working her way up, she's doing it from within the system, as part of the system.
I have much more respect for Catherine Herridge, whose investigative journalism has been a marker for integrity by staying outside the political arena, and whose exit at CBS was pretty much helped along by O'Donnell, as I read it.
Trump ( or other interview subjects) could not possibly be "too mean" to O'Donnell or any other MSM Info Babe.
The better question would be, "Was O'Donnell too mean to the President?".
Yeah delta house hijinks
This morning Melania is being "mean" to Kimmel on X.
She should move back to Slovenia if she doesn't like the First Amendment. Fuck her and the boat she sailed over on.
The price of being able to talk shit when the Reiner Family is massacred is that other people can be mean right back to you when you suffer misfortune.
Norah disgraced herself with her "did you think that was you?" gambit. She was clearly trying to embarrass him. Trump intimidated her in response, and she earned every bit of it.
Anyone seen exactly how he went down.
Also, he was 50 yards and about 100 gunners away from a clear shot, and the tables had armor plate behind the curtains.
I was a little shocked to see Norah O'Donnell recite that quote from the manifesto. That was a real low blow to Trump. A responsible journalist would simply have asked generally about the accusations that the assassin put in his manifesto. So it was obvious to me that it was an intentional attach on Trump by O'Donnell.
The vibe I got from Trump was that he felt that he had to respond to that. That's a part of his public image. He wants/needs to be known as the kind of person who will always hit back when attacked.
So basically, they both acted badly. But Norah started it. It's like that taboo we have in our culture about a man hitting a woman in response to her hitting him first. Hitting people is usually bad, but you should not be disappointed at a man for hitting a women when you wouldn't be disappointed in that man for hitting another man in the same situation.
Oh my! I've been italicized!
Why, people, why?
Italic off.
"Rather, I think she does it because that’s what it has taken her to get ahead at CBS."
Oh, yeah. A good Catholic girl, that one.
She is just a tool for the DNC davos billionaire money changers.
"So basically, they both acted badly."
I disagree. She set the terms, Trump played by them. "Don't start nothing, won't be nothing" is a well known concept.
I think it's inaccurate to call the MSM and DNC politicians leftists. Politically they are completely agnostic. They use leftism and real leftists as pawns in their game to accumulate and hold on to power. I mean let's be honest, Bill Clinton was one of the most successful conservative democratic presidents in the history of this country. And by successful I mean maintaining extremely high popularity while completely selling the country down the river to corporate interests. Because they wrote off the blue collar workers that used to be the mainstay of the democratic party, they had to go even harder left to maintain their power base. Trump has shown that that is a failed model as unpopular as he is with extremely high negatives because he rubs so many people the wrong way is still managed to attain the presidency twice.
Trump could have easily ripped her twice as hard and to the Bone and then continued to rip her but he didn't he quickly moved on from it and continued with his highly collegial let's all work together kumbaya light approach that Mark has more recent public discussions.
The one great thing that he has pointed out to people is these press drones are paper tigers who are used to never being challenged. Their favorite saying is I'm doing the interview here therefore I'm not subject to scrutiny that's b*******
lodogblog: " you should not be disappointed at a man for hitting a women when you wouldn't be disappointed in that man for hitting another man in the same situation."
Well the correct response from a man hit by a woman would be to put her over his knee and spank her. A reminder of her comparative helplessness, without doing any lasting damage.
I'm not sure what the metaphorical equivalent of that would be for a man "hit" by a woman's disrespectful remark. Trump's reaction wasn't exactly a spanking, because it showed she didn't meet the minimum standard of decent society. A true metaphorical spanking would remind her that she's come unarmed to a battle of wits, that we really don't expect her to meet the minimum standards, and she only participates in society's conversations because she's amusing to have around, like a French Bulldog or pug. CC, JSM
"I think it's inaccurate to call the MSM and DNC politicians leftists. Politically they are completely agnostic. They use leftism and real leftists as pawns in their game to accumulate and hold on to power."
And the real left participate willingly, because it serves their interests. It's symbiotic.
Here's a better object of you sympathies, Professor. An actual widow.
The test is always whether we would think he was being “mean” to a male journalist. He pushes back on all journalists, and they should know how to not be intimidated. Never feel bad for someone getting paid what Norah is paid.
"In it, he writes this, quote, "Administration officials, they are targets." And he also wrote this: "I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes.""
The use of "a" and "his" by a well-educated person indicates an individual, not the plural "Administration officials"
It's obviously referring to Trump.
O'Donnell: Oh, you think he was referring to you?
Playing dumb and deserving a hard push-back.
Trump blames eight million people for the attack.
"The reason you have people like that is you have people doing 'no kings.' I'm not a king. If I was a king I wouldn't be dealing with you." ~ Donald Trump
Idiot. He was responding to O'Donnell's nasty "question" about the would-be assassin attending "No Kings" rallies--with the implication that this somehow made the assassin's position legitimate.
RJW: Quoting from a suspect’s manifesto, especially if it references a public figure, is absolutely fair game.
A true window into your character--as if we needed one.
I learned from patriot research strategies after Jan 6 to get to the bottom of what happened here.
The man is a perfectly innocent citizen who was in DC to take in the history and attractions of the city. He brought weapons with him for self defense as recommended by NRA and as allowed by the constitution. During his comings and going to and from the hotel he observed lax security and inadequate protection for this very important gathering of all important members of the administration.
Just as the festivities were starting, he got a call from what I believe to be AntiFa with the false information that there would be an attack. Being a patriot and a well armed member of a well regulated militia he grabbed his weapons and ran as fast as he could to take a position to help defend the President and his cabinet. As he ran through the security checkpoint he tripped and his gun fired accidentally at the agent nearby. He fell and then was mistakenly arrested. This is all a misunderstanding which will be cleared up very soon. He fully expects to be pardoned if he is erroneously convicted .
This should be very obvious to everyone who does their own research. /s
EAB wrote: The test is always whether we would think he was being “mean” to a male journalist.
Yes. There is a "pussy rule". That is, if you are a pussy or have a pussy, politicians are supposed to be nice to you, no matter what.
You gotta watch out for the pols who will just grab you by the pussy, though
Boys are equally likely to allow a girl to grab him by his penis during sexual congress. The games that boys and girls play when there is mutual faith and desire are apolitical.
If you’re not allowed to express anger after a 3rd attempt on your life, it could just show Trump hate is on another level, like we’ve never seen before. Norah handled it well I think. She didn’t get rattled and came back with better questions.
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