O'Donnell: The so-called manifesto is a stunning thing to read. Mr. President, he appears to reference a motive. In it, he writes this, quote, "Administration officials, they are targets." And he also wrote this: "I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes." What's your reaction to that?
Trump: Well, I was waiting for you to read that because I knew you would, because you're horrible people. Horrible people. Yeah, he did write that. Uh, I'm not a rapist. I didn't rape anybody.
O'Donnell: Oh, you think he was referring to you?
Trump: Excuse me. Excuse me. Uh, I'm not a pedophile. You read that crap from some sick person. Uh, I got associated with stuff that has nothing to do with me. I was totally exonerated. Your friends on the other side of the plate are the ones that were involved with, let's say, Epstein or other things. But I said to myself, you know, I'll do this interview and they'll probably—I read the manifesto. You know, he's a sick person. But you should be ashamed of yourself reading that because I'm not any of those things.
O'Donnell: Mr. President, these are the gunman's words.
Trump: Excuse me. Excuse me. You shouldn't be reading that on "60 Minutes." You're a disgrace. But go ahead. Let's finish the interview....
Here's my first reaction to that, which I have accurately preserved because I immediately texted this to the person who'd sent me the video:
He really tried to intimidate her at one point, but she just put up with it and kept going. I thought that was admirable of her. Generally, he was fine, but I don’t think he should’ve been so mean to her at that one point.
After a little conversation at Meadhouse, I felt motivated to add this to my text conversation:
On the other hand, she and her people had selected one passage that could be read to his face in an effort to antagonize him and just poison the atmosphere so he threw it back at her and insisted on getting the upper hand. He’s a famously good counter puncher.
In the cold light of morning, I can see how these 2 positions are not inconsistent, but I won't trouble you with that. I'll just do a poll.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 212 of 212It's not the reading it that pushes me to the second answer, but the "O'Donnell: Oh, you think he was referring to you?" I suppose she could just be that stupid, but her playing stupid here about what Democrats online are constantly saying about Trump makes clear she wasn't approaching the exchange in good faith, but with the intent to antagonise.
The WHCD gunman wrote a manifesto decrying Trump’s rape and pedophilia. So why does it feel like the manifesto called for more DEI and trans athletes in the Ivy League?
The left is shooting us, and we're focused on whether or not our response is too mean?
Not just the Dems and the media want him dead. The permanent government does too. That's still the one to watch.
Did other people know that he was going to shoot up the WHCD? I doubt it. If he were talking to people about his plan, it might have been cathartic and take the wind out of his sails, or somebody would talk him out of it. Even if his correspondents really wanted Trump dead they wouldn't necessarily want to be part of it or have their friend be the assassin. People who do have outlets and connections are less likely to strike out than isolated loners. It's likely that his family, co-workers, and acquaintances all hated Trump, but he may have been the sort to let them go on about it without confiding his own feelings, desires, and plans to them.
Nora sucks as an interviewer.
Searching for something else, I found this 2021 Atlantic article:
A Black Army Rises to Fight the Racist Right
A man calling himself Grandmaster Jay has raised a disciplined, heavily armed militia. It has yet to fire a shot at its enemies, but it’s prepared for war.
By Graeme Wood
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/04/the-many-lives-of-grandmaster-jay/618408/
I don't know if Grandmaster Jay really assembled a powerful armed force or what happened to it, but liberal outlets like the Atlantic have been playing with some dangerous ideas for a while now.
The price of being able to talk shit when the Reiner Family is massacred is that other people can be mean right back to you when you suffer misfortune.
Why are you so obsessed about Trump's comments on Rob Reiner? Were you gettin' busy with the guy, or what?
On the one hand, the best response would have been, “He’s just parroting the lies that you in the media and the Democrat Party have been pushing for years, dehumanizing everyone you perceive as your political opponents, and me most of all, manufacturing lie upon lies and half truths, to what aim? For power? Is it any surprise that crazy people, like these assassins, and all the violent antifa extremists, take your words at face value and are unable to treat their, and your, political opponents with even a modicum of humanity?”
On the other hand, with the “Oh, you think he was referring to you?”, she got off too easy. How disingenuous can you be? Just disgusting.
""O'Donnell: Oh, you think he was referring to you?" I suppose she could just be that stupid, but her playing stupid here about what Democrats online are constantly saying about Trump makes clear she wasn't approaching the exchange in good faith, but with the intent to antagonise."
She could use acting lessons.
Disingenuousness is a form of dishonesty. To pose a dishonest psuedo-gotcha question to the intended victim of assassination is wrong for a multitude of reasons. The one that especially troubles me is that her use of the assassin's manifesto to do it gave this creep a payoff, and in doing so incentivized other similarly inclined people.
Check out Nora's body language and facial expression. She hated him and did everything she could do non verbally to announce it.
I didn't see her smile, thank him for the interview at the beginning, acknowledge that he might be concerned about another assassination attempt coming fairly close, or anything close to try to make him feel at ease. She could have even said "We're glad that nothing bad happened". But she wasn't and her face and body language screamed it.
Reminds me of some awful dates I've had where after one look, the lady decides she wants nothing to do with me.
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