"Trump is the 47th president; '86' can mean banning or removing someone, but it can also be slang for killing a person. Comey quickly removed the post after receiving criticism that the phrase could be used to communicate the threat of violence."
The post title was a Grok prompt. Additional prompts: "Compare that to how Trump was treated for telling protesters on January 6th, 2021 to walk 'peacefully and patriotically' to the Capitol" and "I'm interested in the difference in seeing violence in words and consider that Comey, like Trump, has loyalists who might hear direction and take it."
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2nd link goes to WaPo story and not to Althouse post
Yeah the danchenko fraud which led to the mueller investigation
Imagine if they spent this time and money on something usefup
The process is the punishment.
This new case is far more frivolous than the previous one, and there is no way the government would ever win it -- but if the intent of the case is harassment, then it will probably succeed in that area.
The indictment's in EDNC. Excellent. Jerk him all around the country. CC, JSM
Comey is a traitor a dozen times over.
This post calling for the murder of Donald Trump was the least of his crimes.
Comey has committed multiple crimes he should be executed for. Lets start with working with a Russian agent and lying to the FISA court to illegally spy on the Trump campaign at Obama's behest.
That is the definition of treason.
The only reason Comey is a free man is because Pam Bondi is a traitor too.
Possums in the senate didnt confirm halligan therein lies the rub sievert was deeply conflicted
This is a big mistake for the Trump DOJ. Protected speech. Not a credible death threat or even an incitement to others.
Saturday proved otherwise
Comey is guilty of so much more (Russiagate was an attempted coup), I fear this will trivialize his crimes
8647 is by no stretch of the imagination a “true threat” outside of First Amendment protection.
This indictment, however, is a threat — a threat that the Trump Administration will bring frivolous indictments to attack enemies, including for rhetoric and criticism.
Perhaps the Democrats should have thought about that before they brought frivolous indictments to attack enemies.
Comey had the political acumen to climb D.C.'s notorious "greased pole" to the top of the FBI. He had the political acumen to write and send contemporaneous documentation to himself (proving premeditation, and only done by those with legal experience). The FBI and other three-letter agencies expressly recruit those who are smart and clever and slick and slippery.
Comey knew exactly what "86 47" meant. I give him credit for being intelligent, and also for being a high-functioning psychopath. D.C.'s management class is packed with clinical psychopaths -- way more than anywhere else in the country. These are the "Deep State" players.
Still, this is a weak case and the process is the punishment. I figure that half of Trump 47's actions are meant to show that "he can play that game too" -- promising a future of tit-for-tat lawfare and passive aggression to match the Trump 45 and Biden kangaroo court eras.
Surprised they got a Grand Jury to sign off on this one.
Won't survive a defense motion to dismiss.
Objective is just to waste Comey's time and money. Secondary objective is to intimidate into silence those without his resources who might speak out.
On the bright side, if this is the best Trump can do on his revenge tour, ineffective prosecutions quickly quashed, well, we're doing better than other countries that went down this road.
Comey fitz the late robert mueller they were thick as thieves
Greg Jarrett on Fox said that SCOTUS has ruled the First Amendment doesn’t protect threats against the President. Interesting.
1. Comey is a liar, he intended the posted image to convey the message "86 President Trump".
2. I have heard "deep six" used as a euphemism for "kill", but I've never heard "86" used to mean "kill".
3. I believe Comey intended the image to say "throw out" or "ban" President Trump.
4. Even if Comey intended the image to threaten the President's life, I don't see how that can be proven short of a confession.
5. And even if it's proven, I think it falls under the "true threats" exception laid out in Watts v. United States (1969).
Comey is a true dork. But the First Amendment still protects dorks.
I just want Comey to suffer. That said - he is not top my list.
Fauci and his protege' are
Kak-A-Leftist - The former head of FBI wants Trump dead - kak-a-bot calls it free speech.
It is free speech - and he might pay.
Dave Begley said...
Greg Jarrett on Fox said that SCOTUS has ruled the First Amendment doesn’t protect threats against the President. Interesting.
The first amendment does not protect against threats on anyone.
There is no first amendment right to threaten to kill anyone or to incite the murder of anyone.
As Trump's dementia worsens and he becomes more erratic with his little tantrums, we're going to be treated to the sight of Achilles and other cult members debasing themselves more and more, trying to pretend that his latest grudge is very serious and very important.
Comey doesn’t have loyalists like Trump. That’s counterfactual. He’s not especially liked by Republican, Democrats, or independents.
The better Grok prompt would have been to compare Comey’s Post to how Trump was treated for telling a large crowd of protesters he assembled on January 6th, 2021, 'If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore'.
Would, in the words of the indictment, a reasonable recipient who is familiar with the circumstances interpret Comey’s post as a serious expression of an intent to do harm to the President of the United States? No, a reasonable person familiar with the circumstances would interpret it as a cheeky attempt to promote his recently-released book.
Comey has legit done dirty deeds for which it would be great to find solid evidence to enable charges to be brought.
But seashell numbers, even if he had spelled out “Trump should be assassinated” do not constitute a true threat.
This crap is the type of abuse the Biden DOJ perpetrated.
Gosh, he’s so brave.
“ 2nd link goes to WaPo story and not to Althouse post”
Thanks. Fixed.
He says he’s still innocent, still unafraid.Truth be told, he’s just another dishonest Deep State corksoaker.
I remember the cliche that a DA can get a jury to indict a ham sandwich, but c'mon, it's obvious that with this case the meat is rancid.
Left bank - So Comey was trying to sell his book to other people who want Trump dead. Got it.
A pointless indictment but Comey's disingenuousness about the social media post almost makes him deserve to have to spend more money on lawyers. If he gets hit by a bus on the way to the courthouse, I won't shed any tears- the man is slime.
Comey is worthless. The indictment is stupid.
It's not like anyone has tried to actually 86 Trump, so Comey should be fine.
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@NickJFreitas
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"Democrats “increase the temperature” until something excessively violent happens and then insist that Republicans “lower the temperature” by giving Democrats everything they want…lest more violence happens.
It's a political extortion racket."
Now I'm believing Achilles that these indictments explain Bondi's was eighty sixed by forty seven.
That's 67
FBI Director Kash Patel explains how the criminal investigation into James Comey’s seashell post wasn’t a simple one: "This has been a case that's been investigated over the past 9, 10, 11 months. These cases take time. Our investigators work methodically"
Yeah, it was a hard code to crack, but you finally did it. I love the idea of FBI agents with seashells on a whiteboard for 9,10,11 months
“So Comey was trying to sell his book to other people who want Trump dead.”
Have any of the would-be assassins been found to have a copy of Comey’s book. Not that I’ve heard.
I doubt anyone owns a copy of Comey's book.
86 Trump and buy my book!
No chance of this going anywhere, but I don't care.
Process is the punishment, asshole.
Now he can spend his fortune defending himself.
8647
Fortunately, #86, Oronde Gadsden, who plays Special Teams defense for the Chargers will not face Wide Receiver #47, Alec Pierce, for the Colts since Pierce doesn't return kicks.
But Gadsden should change his number just in case.
James Comey somehow metamorphosed from a Boy Scout into a weasel.
All the leftists are saying this is trivial, etc. Compare this to 1( the rodeo clown who put on a mask of Obama and the state fired him and banned him for life. Nary a Democrat said that was wrong, did they. Next, compare what Joe Biden's FBI did to sick old man who couldn't walk Craig Robertson when he allegedly threatened the president... they invaded and executed him in his own home. Again, every single Democrat, including all the ones here, told us how righteous and good and appropriate it was to send tanks and an entire battalion of SWAT and FBI to raid and kill a sick old man who needed a scooter to move.
Comey should have been treated like Craig Robertson... as a "former head of the FBI" he is far more dangerous than Robertson ever was.
He wanted to write "Trump delenda est".
But he couldn't find enough seashells.
I suspect that Comey's book was purchased in bulk using Act Blue funds routed through Sam Bankman Fried where the source was obscured by converting cash to Amazon gift cards.
Pick your favorite Democratic donor, one or all.
Perhaps Comey's books ended up shredded and then burned for fuel to run a server farm for Bitcoin mining, cloud services, etc.
2. I have heard "deep six" used as a euphemism for "kill", but I've never heard "86" used to mean "kill".
But many of us have heard it used that way and it incredible that an FBI veteran who has listened to hours of mob wiretaps has not heard it used in this context. All it takes is one cooperative witness to establish such prior knowledge/use of the term. Discovery will be interesting!
Sean Davis
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DOJ sent Douglass Mackey to prison for a meme.
https://x.com/seanmdav/status/2049300716200620413?s=20
Cute, now do Whitmer. She was very proud to do video casts in front of a knick-knack that said 8645. I would post a picture here, but cannot. https://www.hindustantimes.com/ht-img/img/2025/05/16/550x309/Gretchen_Whitmer_8645_1747361171851_1747361178202.png
He knew what it meant....and he posted the picture ANYWAYS.
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@JayTC53
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Never forget after James Comey posted his "8647" threat against President Trump. He quickly went on Stephen Colbert to laugh & mock his threat against President Trump.
https://x.com/JayTC53/status/2049191111025987591?s=20
Shem Horne
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The left makes up crimes to try to throw Trump in prison for life but some people are worried about James Comey having the 1st amendment right to threaten the life of the President? That's brain damage.
https://x.com/Shem_Infinite/status/2049431745439629699?s=20
On the Colbert show after the post, Comey claimed he just stumbled upon the 86-47 shell formation and that it was organic. He still claims he did not arrange the shells himself.
This is all you need to know. You have to be a moron to believe this.
TOTAL BULLSHIT. He arranged the shells, knew exactly what in meant, posted it and deleted in in a panic.
Achilles said...
The only reason Comey is a free man is because Pam Bondi is a traitor too - You're right. She was a waste of time like Jeff Sessions, and as devious as Bill Barr.
First indictment was in DC, this one is in NC. Next up, have one ready in Florida, then Texas. Hoping Brennan, the Fauc, and Clapper are next.
Comey: I was just singing that song. You know, “8647-5309”.
I have been aware of the term "86" my entire life, but never once heard someone claim it meant "kill" until after Comey posted the picture.
Didn't he lie to congress? How about going after him for that?
Discovery will be interesting!
…for those of you saying this is entirely frivolous don’t be so hasty. Discovery has the potential to make the guilty squirm, especially when they’ll have to incriminate themselves or lie and risk perjury or any other crime not covered by the blanket pardon…
Will Comey's defense be (as claimed publically) that the shells washed up on shore and just happened to make the 86-47? Or some seagulls just dropped them from the sky and they landed that way?
This is hilarious. That's the type lie a 6 or 7 year old would tell.
1) why tell with such a obvious bullshit story if you didn't arrange the shells yourself?
2) if the shells did arrange organically, why delete the photo / post? You'd have done nothing wrong. Act of nature.
3) we're also supposed to believe a former Director of the FBI didn't know that to 86 someone means both to "kill" or "remove".
4) he does not deny the "47" meant Trump.
I think the country was much better when our FBI director, Hoover, wore women's underwear under his suit.
With as fucked up as some of these directors like Comey have been, the left freaks out because Kash Patel had a couple beers with the US Hockey team after the win. Give me a break.
Sometimes the best part of being American is realizing you are living in a real life clown show.
It was a dumb joke. So is this prosecution. I guess you can say that the punishment fits the crime.
Moronic. How can any of you support this bullshit?
Comey is a shithead and has done lots of stuff worthy of indictment. Posting that juvenile crap is not among those crimes.
Are the "seashell" charges the only charges in the indictment? Perhaps those charges were thrown in for statute of limitations purposes, as well as to force Comey to explain himself--and defend himself.
I'm not in favor of chickenshit indictments but if anyone deserves it it is Comey. Check with Roger Stone.
I have been aware of the term "86" my entire life, but never once heard someone claim it meant "kill" until after Comey posted the picture.
"86" is a restaurant reference, that you are out of food. "86 the lobster tail."
It doesn't mean shoot the lobster. It means strike it from the menu. So, metaphorically, it's a reference to getting rid of a president you don't like. There are multiple ways of doing this, including voting him out or impeaching his ass.
This is a ridiculous indictment. Trump is now following UK precedent and is looking for internet crimes that he can use to attack his enemies. It is utter bullshit and I am not impressed.
Comey almost single-handedly ensured Trump's victory in 2016. You sure 86 isn't slang for love?
This has been a case that's been investigated over the past 9, 10, 11 months. These cases take time. Our investigators work methodically
Utter bullshit. They timed this prosecution for the mid-terms. This is fucking appalling. I am not at all impressed with the "acting" attorney general.
There is no universe where you investigate a photograph on a beach for months. And if you are doing so, you're wasting your time and taxpayer dollars on incredibly frivolous shit.
If you're looking for criminals, Biden pardoned them.
The left sowed the wind. How many bogus arrests and even imprisonments did they make in the Trump years? Remember Douglas’s Mackey? Roger Stone? Paul Manafort? Rosanne Barr? The list is truly impressive.
They’re now reaping the whirlwind. All’s fair in love and war.
Actually, I don't think they're timing this for the mid-terms. I retract that.
It is timed, though. I don't think it's a coincidence that this phony charge came out right after another assassination attempt.
It may be that this decision was made by Patel, and not by higher ups. The FBI is trying to muscle the Democrats into shutting up, and watching out for their violent rhetoric.
MAGA loves its lawfare. 🤷♂️
Well, the AG is on board. So either he's the guy who signed off on this, or Trump did.
Context:
During the 50th anniversary of D-Day in June 1994, President Bill Clinton created a cross made of pebbles on Omaha Beach in Normandy, France. This act of remembrance followed ceremonies at the nearby U.S. cemetery, marking a significant moment in his visit to commemorate the 1944 invasion.
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Saint Croix said...
If you're looking for criminals, Biden pardoned them.
truth.
poor snowflake DD - and all other leftist cunts.
Comey shills seashells by the seashore.
Leftists forget and excuse all the fraudulent lawfare build by their corrupt lying party.
I have been aware of the term "86" my entire life, but never once heard someone claim it meant "kill" until after Comey posted the picture.
Perhaps Comey will be able to tell us all, under oath, what prompted him to create and share his message. The point being it's not as important how the messaged was received by a variety of groups, but how Comey might plausibly explain the message in a way that doesn't wish the President severe harm.
Dumb! If Pam Bondi, a professional prosecutor, was fired for tempering this kind of vindictiveness, it was a mistake. A rookie public defender could win this case easily.
Kevin said...Perhaps Comey will be able to tell us all, under oath, what prompted him to create and share his message.
Comey already fabricated his bullshit story on late night broadcast TV claiming he and his wife were just walking on the beach and there it was!! Nature's magic.
DDDriver wrote: “MAGA loves its lawfare. 🤷♂️” This is why it is a waste of time to talk to Democrats. They are either delusional or hypocrites or delusional hypocrites.
DDDriver wrote: “MAGA loves its lawfare. 🤷♂️” This is why it is a waste of time to talk to Democrats. They are either delusional or hypocrites or delusional hypocrites.
For the last fucking time: I am not a member of a "party." People who support political parties are retards. I am not a retard like you. I hate democrats. I was against the lawfare perpetrated against Trump and his supporters. I am *also* against retaliatory lawfare.
I hate democrats because they engage in lawfare. I hate republicans because they engage in lawfare. It's just as bad when "you do it" as when "they do it."
Remember when the retarded media tried to blame Sarah Palin for the Gabby Giffords assassination attempt? Anyone remember that? Explain how the fuck this is "different."
Crybaby Democrats and Crybaby Republicans are always so so upset about the words the other guys are using. Boo hoo.
It's so fucking phony and exhausting.
Seems to be a thing amongst the Dims
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