April 10, 2026

"I want you to imagine a guy today, if R. Crumb never existed, but he emerged as R. Crumb today and put that work out. He would 100% be labeled in the Andrew Tate camp, right?"

 

Duncan Trussell had sent Joe Rogan an R. Crumb drawing, and it sets Joe off: "That guy Crumb was a maniac.... He's an odd guy, man.... You watch that documentary?... He likes big women, big giant women that he rides.... It's hard to know what his real take on things are. You know, I think he adds some shock value to some of his stuff for sure. Some of it was just crazy. There's a lot of like really racist stuff. Like there's there's some just crazy stuff in there.... There was a time where things just got very odd in this country with art.... For it to be as popular as it was and be that strange and that crazy. That's what's really interesting to me... If he existed in a time of the internet... a lot of the stuff that he said in this cultural environment would never fly. He would be as far right as you could possibly imagine. He'd be past Andrew Tate to the right.... Don't you think? Some of the racial stuff?... Sexually, it's like pure deviance.... I want you to imagine a guy today, if R. Crumb never existed, but he emerged as R. Crumb today and put that work out. He would 100% be labeled in the Andrew Tate camp, right?... They would call him a racist and a misogynist.... That guy was a counterculture figure of the left. He was a huge hero of the hippies.... This is how weird like ideologies are. In the 1970s, that guy was like a counterculture hero and an artist, like a really respected artist... and it was okay that he was kinky and weird and it was part of the fun for a lot of people."

11 comments:

rehajm said...

Keith Haring did some stuff that’s just as weird but he’s a fine artist for the Sotheby’s set…

rehajm said...

‘mushrooms’ is a tag every Joe Rogan post…

Enigma said...

Matt Groening was wilder during his "Life in Hell" era before The Simpsons too.

The 1960s to 1970s left routinely wanted uncensored media and freedom for sex & drugs & rock & roll & Playboy Mansion access.

Their grandchildren were raised in Weinstein's moral vacuum, and became the Children of the Corn...aka Woke Warriors. Trump and Tulsi and Vance and RFK Jr. are alt-Democrats rather than conservatives.

Ted said...

He got his start making greeting cards for the American Greetings company in Cleveland. They were a million times weirder than anything you'd see in the card aisle today.

john mosby said...

Meanwhile Tom of Finland is just fine. CC, JSM

Joe Bar said...

Back in the day..... We all thought it was pot induced hysteria.

Hilariously funny, though. We toked up and laughed , and laughed, and laughed...

Josephbleau said...

You have to remember that back in the age of the hippies in California people gave their young children acid, so it is all relative. Zippy the pinhead is fun, but Crumb went to some dark places. The excuse is always art and pushing boundaries. Boundaries only undergo permanent deformation when they are stretched beyond the elastic limit.

mezzrow said...

I'd love to see Rogan give a few hours to Crumb as well as Gilbert Sheldon. These days, I find myself often thinking, "this is a job for Wonder Wart-hog!" Bet he (and we) would learn some stuff we don't know. Both are still around, but time's a wastin'.

Narr said...

R. Crumb's greatness can be calibrated by the offense he gives to prigs across the political spectrum, over generations.

Tina Trent said...

I don't find his work pornographic, more a psychedelic effort to transform pain into humor. The documentary is good if you're in the mood for some pretty sad family dysfunction. It would make a great Thanksgiving movie for the family to share. Good double feature with the actually uplifting I Like Killing Flies. The flip side of transforming a dark psychology into a productive life. The memoir-cookbook from the latter film, Eat Me: the Food and Philosophy of Kenny Shopsin is one of my favorite books of all time. He served 900 menu items from a ten by ten, if that, kitchen with one helper. I would dare any famous chef to do that. The Sixties and Seventies in New York City didn't have much going for them. But this is the magic.

Brian McKim and/or Traci Skene said...

I borrowed a friend's R. Crumb comic book once. One panel depicted Jesus fellating someone while on the cross. But, sure, tell us about how Matt Groening was wilder.

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