March 5, 2026

"That this country sits back and allows a country such as Iran to hold our hostages to my way of thinking is a horror."

"And I don't think they do it with other countries. I honestly don't think they do it with other countries.... I absolutely feel that [we should have gone in there]. Yes. I don't think there's any question. There's no question in my mind. I think it right now.... . I don't think that Iran would have our hostages for 10 minutes if they respected this country. I don't believe they would have our hostages for 10 minutes...."

That's Trump in 1980 — 46 years ago.A lot of people have been posting that clip this week. I'm seeing many comments about how consistent Trump has been about Iran. He was only 34 years old in that clip.

Context:
Well, I think that America is a country that has tremendous, tremendous potential. I think that much like the mind, I think that America is using very, very little of its potential. I feel that this country with the proper leadership can go on to become what it once was. And I hope and certainly hope that it does go on to be what it should be. 
What should it be? 
Well, it should really be a country that gets the respect of other countries today. 
Is respect the most important thing in your opinion? 
Well, respect can lead to other things. When you get the respect of other countries, then the other countries tend to do a little bit as you do and you can create the right attitudes. The Iranian situation is a case in point—that they hold our hostages is just absolutely and totally ridiculous. That this country sits back and allows a country such as Iran to hold our hostages, to my way of thinking, is a horror. And I don't think they do it with other countries. I honestly don't think they do it with other countries. 
Obviously, you're advocating that we should have gone in there with troops etc. and brought our boys out. 
I absolutely feel that. Yes. I don't think there's any question. There's no question in my mind. I think right now would be an oil-rich nation and I believe that we should have done it and I'm very disappointed that we didn't do it and I don't think anybody would have held us in abeyance. I don't think anybody would have been angry with us and we had every right to do it at the time. I think we've lost the opportunity. 
Donald, would you have wanted to be one of those men to have gone to Iran and taken those fellows out? 
No, I wouldn't have wanted to be, but I would have done it.Would you? Absolutely. If I were the age, if I were in the military—there were a lot of those fellas who went for that aborted rescue who were 34 years old and older. 
They were your age. 
That's right. 
If you were called upon, would you? 
I know it's easy to say, "Yes, of course I would go." But if the phone rang right now and there was someone from the Selective Service said, "Donald, we're taking every young man 34 years of age. We're sending him to war." 
Would you go to war? 
No, I don't see a war. You see, this is not a Vietnam situation, fortunately. The war, in fact, with Iran—there is a war waging here right now. Oh, yes, there is a war and it's a war where nobody has any tanks, has any guns. It's a war where everyone's standing around. That would have been the easiest victory we would have ever won in my opinion. 
When I look at television, I see men being shot up, legs being blown off. 
You're talking about two non-existent armies. I mean, Iran has an army composed of American equipment without parts and without anything else. And Iraq has a very weak army, and they're just really fighting each other. I mean, it's almost hand-to-hand combat if you've seen it now. It's a sad situation, Rona, but it's a situation which ultimately is going to get much worse. That little sparkle of war is going to lead, in my opinion, to a much greater conflict. And I think that's very unfortunate. And I think a lot of it has to do with this country and the fact that this country is not more involved in terms of setting policy in that area. 
Do you think perhaps that the oil industry is responsible for this as the late Shah once implied? 
Well, I wouldn't want to criticize the oil industry because I wouldn't know enough about it. But I can tell you that I think this country is responsible for that war by its own weaknesses. I don't think you'd have this war if we—if they, again using the other word—if we were respected properly, respected as a country and as a people and as a nation, I don't think that you would have the war going on right now between Iran and Iraq. I don't think that Iran would have our hostages for 10 minutes if they respected this country. I don't believe they would have our hostages for 10 minutes. 
For some people the ultimate goal in life has been becoming the president of the United States. Would you like to be the president of the United States? 
I really don't believe I would, Rona, but I would like to see somebody as the president who could do the job. And there are very capable people in this country. Most people who are capable are not running for office. Most men are frightened of politics today. 
It is a shame, isn't it? 
Yes, it is a shame. The most capable people are not necessarily running for political office. And that is a very sad commentary on the country. They head major corporations and they head this and that, but they are not running for political office. 
Why wouldn't someone like yourself run for political office? You have all the money that you possibly need. You've accomplished a great deal even though you are only 34. I know there's a lot of things that you possibly can do in the years ahead. Why wouldn't you dedicate yourself to public service? 
Because I think it's a very mean life. I would love and I would dedicate my life to this country, but I see it as being a mean life. And I also see it that somebody with strong views and somebody with the kind of views that are maybe a little bit unpopular—which may be right, but maybe unpopular—wouldn't necessarily have a chance of getting elected against somebody with no great brain, but a big smile. And that's a sad commentary for the political process.... 
But if all the men are like you, then when are we going to get somebody who might be good? 
I don't know. I hope it's around the corner, but I don't know. I really don't know.What I would like to be involved in is trying to help choose somebody or working with a group of people whereby they put up a candidate who would be acceptable to be the president. The country—if we had the one man, and it's really not that big a situation, you know, people say, well, what could anybody do as president? The one proper president could turn this country around. I firmly believe that. 
You think there is one man? 
There is one man....

110 comments:

baghdadbob said...


But but but I've been told that Trump doesn't stand for anything other than his own ego and thirst for power.

3/5/26, 7:23 AM

Old and slow said...

He agreed that television may have damaged the political process, but he then went on to leverage his television identity to win 3 times. He hasn't changed a bit. I was horrified when he was first nominated because I knew nothing about him except the lurid tabloid stories. I never expected to become such a fan.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Wow been a while since I saw or thought about Rona Barret. Very interesting seeing Trump's amazing consistency about world affairs.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

And our fellow commenter Freder has his own consistent view on things*, which he says hasn't changed. I find it funny that those two share that trait, if indeed Freder is being honest, and I have no indication he is being dishonest at all.

*Only declared wars are "legal wars," in a nutshell.

rehajm said...

Where’s Rona’s review of The Godfather?

Not Illinois Resident said...

Yup, I remember the Carter days and the abandoned Iran hostages too. Back then I was a Dem dismayed at Carter's ineptness, but even then agreed with Trump's worldview. Listened to recent Winston Marshall podcast (yes, that Oxford-educated Munford Bro) who interviewed British Colonel Kemp - who noted it's Iran who has been at war with US since 1979, not US engaging in "illegal" attack against Iran, that it's Iran who supplies many world terrorists.

Temu Obama's statements reflect his innate stupidity and poor grasp of World history. There are too many talking-head stupid Dem politicians bleating their ignorance on broadcast news, too many TDS voters blindly believing them..

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Interesting that Trump's basic philosophy/world outlook hasn't changed very much over the years. He was much more diplomatic in this younger clip, compared to his in your face method today.

Probably has to do with aging and the time left to accomplish the goals. As we get older, we (I mean me) don't have time to GAF (give a eff) deal with other peoples idiocy.......in fact Trump probably has run out of his lifetime supply of GAFs ...sorry all out.

baghdadbob said...

Trump told Rona...
"...wouldn't necessarily have a chance of getting elected against somebody with no great brain, but a big smile. And that's a sad commentary for the political process...."

Wow! Trump forsaw the 2020 election.

Robert Cook said...

"He agreed that television may have damaged the political process, but he then went on to leverage his television identity to win 3 times. He hasn't changed a bit. I was horrified when he was first nominated because I knew nothing about him except the lurid tabloid stories. I never expected to become such a fan."

Look again. The lurid tabloid stories barely approach the horrid reality of Trump. That oily flim-flammer of yore is curdled into a truly destructive agent of (America's) destruction.

Not an oldster. said...

Why didn't he avenge the 1979 hostage taking his first day in office in 2017?

Why now? ISRAEL

You are worshipping false gods at meadehpuse
Jesuchchrist was only 33 when he died. Makes trump look like an old do nothing here. "HES ONLY 33 IN THAT VIDEO!" she says with her pussy gushing...lol

Go get you some, meade. She can close her eyes and pretend it HIM or you can pump her doggy style... USA USA. Play those pretty acoustic Beatles songs she loves ❤️

Not an oldster. said...

Funny he doesn't want to retaliate against the saudis for 911 and what they did to his city...

Maybe they've paid enough in reparations to him and Jared?

Iman said...

I’m with you, DBQ!

DILLIGAF

Achilles said...

People try to pretend that there is moral consistency in great power conflict or some sort of international law or code of conduct.

The responsibility of a government is to the people it serves and/or rules over.

Letting another country take advantage of your people is the moral failure.

bagoh20 said...

Stable genius, also known as common sense, which is facing extinction if we don't take conservation seriously.

Jaq said...

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxtxtrHRhlf7ULLI4mdSLq3e22rB8M6p_u

Stable Genius doing great!

"The responsibility of a government is to the people it serves" aka Israel.

bagoh20 said...

If you believe your culture and values are superior, you must defend them and cultivate them, even outside your borders, because opposing cultures will be doing that regardless. Like it or not, it's survival of the strongest, evolution. You don't get to opt out and survive. If your values are superior, you will be tolerant of the good and neutral, but if you don't fight, your books will be burned.

Aggie said...

"...The lurid tabloid stories barely approach the horrid reality of Trump...."

Here we are treated to the fevered imagination of the TDS sufferer, and exhorted to accept his vision as reality, as he does.

Compare this clip to Gavin Newsom and tell us which one is 'oily'. Then look at the social and economic scene wrought by each and tell us which one is flim-flammery. And finally, tell us who you would vote for. Derangement.

bagoh20 said...

It's a lazy mind that assumes that if something is good for Israel, that must be the only reason it's done. What does Israel have that Trump needs so bad he would knowingly harm America for it?

Achilles said...

There are a lot of people that seem to think the US is a bad country and everything this country does is bad.

They should move to another country.

bagoh20 said...

Aah, DBQ. It's great to see people from back in the early days. Anyone know what happened to Palladian?

Achilles said...

Today Burgham and Rodriguez had a press conference about the current state of Venezuela.

Nobody is talking about that because it is going too well.

I look forward to when the moral degenerates stop talking about Iran the same way they stopped talking about Venezuela.

On Deck: Cuba. Lebanon. Pakistan.

Jaq said...

Trump wanted this war over in three days, and then go to meet Xi in China with more leverage, instead our carriers are cowering in the distance, out of range of Iran's weapons, and not part of the fight.

Maybe we beat the crap out of Iran with B-52s and eventually the Iranians lose control of their country to Israel, I wouldn't bet against it, but one thing is sure, we have shown China that our carrier fleet is a paper tiger.

Notice that it is no longer about the Iranians overthrowing their evil, despotic rulers? Now we are sending in terrorists, just like we did in Syria. With luck, we can reduce Iran to a huge civil war, with corpses piled high, like in Revelations!

planetgeo said...

A few observations about Trump's style of fighting wars:
1) We're now actually winning wars.
2) We're winning them fast (no more forever wars).
3) No more news leaks coming out before we attack to thwart our effort (the real butthurt for the Democrats and the enemedia).

Yup. I voted for this.

Rory said...

My stock comment about Trump in that era was, "Howard Hughes was more interesting by accident than Trump is on purpose." I think Trump's gone past him now.

Mr. D said...

My sense is Trump didn't want to be president in the past, but over time as he saw how every can gets kicked down the road, it became a Cincinnatus/Coriolanus thing for him. With added emphasis on the anus part to piss off his adversaries.

D.D. Driver said...

Consistent? Oh fuck off.

Phaedrus said...

He hasn’t really changed. And thinking back to where is was on the spectrum in the 70’s/80’s through to today, I don’t really think I have. Was liberal then and somewhere between anarcho libertarian and small c conservative now. The institutions have changed, ie the Parties themselves, even my go to Libertarians are devolving into nutcases. I was literally perplexed in the Texas primary on which party to vote for and were it not for Republicans doing some last minute hijinx in Dallas County, I;d have voted for them, but was told I need to go BACK to the location I’d just be sent from, I just went ahead and pulled for blue. Owed my congresswoman a vote anyway, for my son’s Academy Nominations and got to waste a vote on Crockett. Whatever…

What’s really illumninating is how much he is fawned over then v now. Because other than Party ID, he hasn’t changed.

Aggie said...

Today at the Conservative Treehouse:

"...…” President Trump proactively secured the border, targeted narcotraffickers, confronted narcoterrorists, targeted Mexican drug cartel leadership, leveraged the DOJ to indict regional actors, pushed China out of control in the Panama Canal, took out Nicholas Maduro, took control of Venezuela oil production – both for the security of the U.S. and benefit of the Venezuelan people, removed the discounted oil benefit for China and reasserted stability in the Western hemisphere.”

Then, with all that in place, he turned toward Iran…. but, proactively planned for a ‘Shield of the Americas Summit’ before the Iran operation began and scheduled it while Operation Epic Fury continues.”...


Decisive.

Wilbur said...

Shortly after US embassy and the hostages were seized I was sitting at a table in the cafeteria at the law school I was attending. The others there were discussing the situation and what diplomatic steps the USA could take with its allies to secure the release of the hostages.

Then someone asked me "What do you think?". I said if I was POTUS I would have immediately given the "radical students" (remember when that's what they were called in the media?) 72 hours to deliver all of our personnel into safe hands. If not, the persons responsible would all die. And die immediately and in a most violent way, and unfortunately the lives of many of their countrymen would be on their hands.

But Wilbur, what about the hostages? Wouldn't they die too? Look, when this situation is forced upon you have to consider those people already dead. That gives you the freedom to act in a manner that may actually get those people out and alive. When you play their game by their rules you've already lost, and worse you just foster and promote (a good lawyerly phrase) such behavior in the future.

But aren't we responsible for this situation by supporting the evil Shah? Answer: Doesn't matter, there are far bigger issues at stake than which group of thugs we were supporting at the time. And clearly Carter's handwringing was not accomplishing anything except emboldening the enemy.

Nothing has happened in the ensuing 47 years to change my mind.

bagoh20 said...

"What’s really illumninating is how much he is fawned over then v now."

The "fawning" is due to him being a fighter, and a winner for the values many on the right have long watched get nothing but lip service while being mostly abandoned. That makes sense. The mindless hatred on the other side is what's hard to explain with any rationality, because, as you say, he hasn't changed, and he wasn't hated before, even by the same people.

Achilles said...

Adding to Aggie's post, it has been so long since the US acted like a country that took the interests of its people seriously that people don't even know what it looks like anymore.

The US has been run by globalists since WWII and the only 3 exceptions have been Ike, Reagan and Trump.

Every other president has sold the US out. over the last 100 years.

Dogma and Pony Show said...

Trump had to wait for the culture to change enough to make someone like him politically viable. Bill Clinton helped.

Dogma and Pony Show said...

Rona Barrett looks like she was there to do a costume and makeup test for "Tootsie."

baghdadbob said...

bagoh20 said...
"What’s really illumninating is how much he is fawned over then v now."

It was risk-free to fawn over Trump back then, when he was no threat to the entrenched power structure. Now as Leftists say quite often, he is an Existential Threat! What they don't add that the threat is to the political, financial and cultural hegemony the Deep State and its allies have enjoyed since FDR.

Fred Drinkwater said...

I'm afraid I can't get past their hair.

My opinion of Trump was formed by the NYC Central Park ice rink affair.

Jaq said...

Now we are targeting their water treatment, so you guys will get to see a good old-fashioned outbreak of cholera. I bet you can't wait.

Jaq said...

"What’s really illumninating is how much he is fawned over then v now."

Well, we believed his lies.

https://www.barrons.com/news/trump-vows-to-end-wars-restore-us-power-if-elected-again-5cbbfd05

DDG date range feature is your friend, because our poodle media turns on a dime.

Achilles said...

Jaq said...

Now we are targeting their water treatment, so you guys will get to see a good old-fashioned outbreak of cholera. I bet you can't wait.

Everyone who disagrees with Tim is EVIL. EVVVIIIILLLLL.

You have the moral development of a third grader.

Howard said...

Donnie and Rona have similar hair styles. I like how not one of you people hold Ronald Reagan to account for emboldening and arming Iran by trading advanced weapons systems for hostages after inviting Hezbollah to Bomb the unarmed by design Marine Barracks in Beirut.

Howard said...

Right, Tim. The Axle of Evil is going after water treatment facilities:

Nuclear "Heavy Water" Facilities: The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) confirmed that strikes hit the Khondab (formerly Arak) heavy water research reactor and damaged buildings at the nearby heavy water production plant. These facilities produce heavy water for nuclear reactors, not drinking water for the public.

Keith said...

In line with bagoh and Achilles -

Indeed, just because something is good for Israel does not mean it is not good for the United States.

In 2026 there are only two powers currently defending western civilization. The United States and Israel. There are powerful forces that want to oppress the values of western civilization – freedom of speech, freedom of press, women’s rights, democracy, Capitalism and so on. Powerful forces are advocating for Marxism and Islamism sharia Takeover of the world.

As mentioned elsewhere, western civilization is superior to all other civilizations in the history of the world. If America and Israel does not defend it, no one will. Western Europe will be part of the caliphate in two more generations. Europeans are not reproducing themselves and Muslims are having 456 and more children. In the absence of a radical change in Europe, Europe is done in two more generations.

Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea are not avidly defending western civilization. It’s us or Marxism and Islam.

There are a few people here RCO JAQ And so on Who seemed to advocate against the defensive Western civilization. I think RCO Has posted enough about how much he hates Jews that he is a bad faith actor. I think the others are simply foolish. They are prepared to see the death of western civilization, and see us as slaves to marxis annd Islamism.

Ann Althouse said...

“ I'm afraid I can't get past their hair.”

I think his lips are fascinating. Asymmetrical …

Wilbur said...

I just looked ... Rona Barrett is still living at age 89. She's about 10 years older than Trump.

West TX Intermediate Crude said...

Phaedrus at 0832:
" ...were it not for Republicans doing some last minute hijinx in Dallas County..."
Republicans did nothing to affect the D primary.
Elections in TX are run at the county level. The chief election officer in each county is the County Clerk, an elected partisan position. The Dallas County Clerk is John Warren, a Democrat. It is entirely on him and the Democratic party leadership that there was a snafu (that affected the D primary only).
The primaries can be run together if both parties agree. That's the way it was done in my smaller but still urban county. When I signed in, I indicated which party's primary I wanted to participate in, and the proper ballot was loaded onto my machine. My county has officers from both parties; the Clerk is R.
In Dallas County, the Rs appropriately decided to run their primary separately from the Ds. A wise choice, in retrospect.

Freder Frederson said...

It’s us or Marxism and Islam.

You do realize that Marxism is a product of Western Civilization?

Freder Frederson said...

And our fellow commenter Freder has his own consistent view on things*, which he says hasn't changed.

Are you trying to flatter me? Saying I'm just like Trump!

Chest Rockwell said...

Jaq devolving into Inga is a sight to behold.

Keith said...

Freder - when the world was young, there was tribalism. You sacrificed everything for your family. Right and wrong had nothing to do with it. Your family needed food and shelter. You did whatever was necessary whether it was right or wrong. The tribes gradually grew from family to tribes to villages and so on. Your tribe or your race or your whatever was supreme. There was no chance for prosperity because half of your life had to be spent either taking from others or defending yourself from others.

The units grew, but at its heart is collectivism. The individual does not matter. Only the group matters.

At some point, Jude Christian values were created and developed and spread. Over millennia individualism and personal responsibility grew out of collectivism. This allowed for peace and prosperity.

Communism, Marxism, in particular, Nazism, and so on are simply flavors of collectivism. Collectivism at its heart is a bit utopian. The world is wonderful. We are pure and good. So why do we see so much want and poverty? It is because those people ruined what should be utopia and we have to kill them all and take their things. The good virtuous people might be the proletarian and worker and the devil the capitalist. Or it might be the Arian versus the Jew. It doesn’t really matter. We are virtuous and they are evil and we would be living in paradise except for them.

Because of the grace of G-d Over millennia, he guided us to advance from tribalism or collectivism to individualism. You can read more about this in the road to serfdom/Hayek.

This is a war of western civilization against barbarism.

You and your ilk - RC for example - are perfect examples of Heinoeins aphorism. Something about the natural state of man is poverty and degradation. Once every few generations, a small group of people come about and because of their hard work and ability create something new and divert the world into prosperity. They are integrated and beaten, and eventually the world returns to its natural state of want and hunger. This is known as bad luck.

Something like that.

The ignorance of those few posters, not realizing that we have been living in untold prosperity in freedom, and that is at risk and you oppose the defense of our civilization is frankly appalling and betrays a deep and broad ignorance.

Jaq said...

"When crazy people have nuclear weapons, bad things happen." — DJT

Truer words were never spoken.

Jaq said...

"This is a war of western civilization against barbarism."

Yes, and for this reason, we must act as worse than any barbarians who ever lived.

Jaq said...

"Israeli intel reports that Trump might be talking to Iran without Israel"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v52EyBKgwns

How dare he!

Achilles said...

Howard said...

Donnie and Rona have similar hair styles. I like how not one of you people hold Ronald Reagan to account for emboldening and arming Iran by trading advanced weapons systems for hostages after inviting Hezbollah to Bomb the unarmed by design Marine Barracks in Beirut.

I think Ron and Don are very similar in that they are way too nice to the absolutely morally degenerate shitheads that infest Washington DC.

Reagan meant well but he was tricked on numerous occasions.

Jaq said...

Trump is cunning, and he knows that he was cornered like a rat into this invasion, and he also knows that he is likely to be impeached and removed and sent to jail after the mid-terms, and Bibi will be glad handing it with Schumer, popping champaign, on that day.

bagoh20 said...

"Now we are targeting their water treatment, so you guys will get to see a good old-fashioned outbreak of cholera. I bet you can't wait."

Besides being incorrect, this is entirely a self-own.
Who would really be excited about that if it was true? Who would come here an repeat the tragedy over and over? Who hopes it's true. It's not, sorry.

Jaq said...

Speaking of Lebanon, Israel just got a taste of what sending tanks against drones is like. Reagan did the sensible thing, and got our troops, which were doing Israel's bidding, the hell out of there.

Jaq said...

"Besides being incorrect, this is entirely a self-own."

Why is it incorrect? Because Fox News didn't report it?

Jaq said...

It's possible that it's disinformation, but that is the claim, and the claim fits Hegseth's promises of merciless war.

Achilles said...

Jaq said...

"This is a war of western civilization against barbarism."

Yes, and for this reason, we must act as worse than any barbarians who ever lived.

You don't know what barbarity actually is. Barbarity was the Iranian regime killing thousands of their starving people over the last month.

You live a coddled life with freedom you don't deserve because of people who faced actual barbarity.

Eva Marie said...

“I just looked ... Rona Barrett is still living at age 89. She's about 10 years older than Trump.”
I was so happy to see Rona Barrett was still around.
She retired from writing in 1991.
“She remains active in other ways, primarily as the founder and leader of the Rona Barrett Foundation, which focuses on supporting seniors through housing like Golden Inn & Village and Harry’s House.”
She’s an advocate for seniors. Her website: ronabarrettfoundation.org and she even has a podcast - RonaBarrett’s Gray Matters.
Harry’s House, named after her dad, is a senior community for low income seniors.
Way to go Rona.

Freder Frederson said...

You can read more about this in the road to serfdom/Hayek.

In hindsight, Hayek was a Cassandra who's predictions turned out to be mostly wrong.

Freder Frederson said...

Communism, Marxism, in particular, Nazism, and so on are simply flavors of collectivism.

My only point is that all these systems are the product of western civilization. So, I guess I missed your point.

Bill Harshaw said...

No mention of his bone spurs--must have vanished after 1975.

Iman said...

InfantryDort
@infantrydort
Idk who needs to hear this but the U.S. is attacking legitimate military targets.

Iran is attacking whatever it can hit. Civilians or otherwise.

We are not the same.

Spare us your outrage. Direct it to the terrorists flying suicide drones into residential areas.

D.D. Driver said...

We are not the same.

Agree. And we are also NOT LIKE ISREAL. Just because women can drive in Isreal does NOT mean they share our Western values. They do not.

Not an oldster. said...

I dunno.
We attacked Iran. Don't bitch n they defend themselves and fight back. The IDF headquarters are in tel aviv? Hit tel aviv, and hard. They're all partying underground, so it's all property damage except for the non Jewish areas Israel leaves unprotected to drive up the non jew casualty rates ie/ tourists, guest eorkrpers

FullMoon said...

Poor Jaq so enraged and furiously posting has no time to read others comments, particularly Howards' clarifying that drinking water is not targeted. What else has been a lie?

Known Unknown said...

I thought the post header image was actually Sebastien Stan.

Skeptical Voter said...

Well the Bar Orange Man wound up in position where he coudl make a difference--and he did.

john mosby said...

Jaq: " our carriers are cowering in the distance, out of range of Iran's weapons"

That's what carriers do. That's the entire point of their existence. CC, JSM

Keith said...

D.D. Driver said...

We are not the same.

Agree. And we are also NOT LIKE ISREAL. Just because women can drive in Isreal does NOT mean they share our Western values. They do not.
3/5/26, 10:46 AM
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DD You should consider visiting Israel. It is the foundation of the Western religions. The history there is extraordinary. Fascinating place. I recommend actually speaking with Israelis too. They are at least as Western as anyone here in the United States except that they don't have Marxist fools the way we have them there. They live in a VERY tough neighborhood where all their neighbors have been trying to exterminate them for at least 2000 years and do not have the luxury to advocate for foolishness that we, in our prosperity, have here.

I think you have a lot of misunderstanding because you've no experience with Israel or Israelis.

Keith said...

Freder - Hayek was a Cassandra? I highly recommend READING his book. And regarding collectivism vs individualism - it seems to me I was quite clear. I can EXPLAIN it to you but I cannot UNDERSTAND it for you.

TBH I think you in fact understand it but are pretending to be ignorant.

Beasts of England said...

’…we have shown China that our carrier fleet is a paper tiger.’

There should be a cover charge for this impressive comedy.

The judge said...

I would suggest everyone review Keith’s posts at 9:27 and 10:00- extremely perceptive. Then, of course, there are Jac and RCO for contrast.

Eva Marie said...

The only reason to protest our war with Iran: its potential to destroy the Democrat Party.

Beasts of England said...

’You live a coddled life with freedom you don't deserve because of people who faced actual barbarity.’

Very well said, Achilles. This bunch of soft whiners are a threat to our liberty. It’s sickening, and I hope they suffer.

narciso said...

100 million dead and counting thsts the blood price of socialism

Kai Akker said...

The tech stocks and Nasdaq highs came on Oct. 29, 2025.

The S&P 500 peaked on Jan. 28, 2026, at 7002.

The Dow Jones Industrials high of 50,513 occurred on Feb. 10, 2026.

The Dow Jones Composite peaked on Feb. 12, 2026.

The breakdown in the DJIA started on 2/23 and picked up speed on 2/27.

The attack on Iran began on Feb. 28, 2026.

So this attack did not start the bear market. Although it will probably add fuel to its course. The pricking of the market's bullish fantasies had already started. Traders managed to bull the averages up to a couple big round numbers. But the peaking process has been underway since the NASDAQ top in October 2025.

The bull market in DJT is also probably over, although we can't see that one as yet.

Gusty Winds said...

Jaq has quickly reached the top ten paid trolls to ever troll the Althouse comments. Bravo!! The Col. Walter E. Kurtz profile photo is perfect.

Bob Boyd said...

"The US and China are now competing over control of chokepoints ahead of a conflict both sides increasingly see as inevitable.
China spent a decade building leverage over critical supply chain choke points essential to the US industrial base. Now the Gulf War has handed Washington leverage over the energy and supply chain arteries critical to China’s industrial base.
Hormuz matters far more to China than it does to the United States. But if the US Navy is now responsible for safely escorting ships and the DFC has a monopoly backstopping war risk insurance, then Washington becomes the gatekeeper of security at the world’s most important energy chokepoint.
The US can now decide which cargoes get the lowest friction access and which buyers get priority. Squeeze the US on rare earths and the US squeezes back on Hormuz.
China built a stranglehold over critical supply chains to deter the US. But the Gulf war may have given the US a reciprocal lever over China’s supply chain." - Michael McNair

Bob Boyd said...

Some people have tunnel vision when it comes to Trump, others when it comes to Israel.
Check out this graphic of major maritime shipping lane choke points and accompanying analysis of Trump Administration policies.

https://x.com/johnkonrad/status/2029189627152634149

Bob Boyd said...

For some reason this comment was just deleted. I'll try it again.

"The US and China are now competing over control of chokepoints ahead of a conflict both sides increasingly see as inevitable.
China spent a decade building leverage over critical supply chain choke points essential to the US industrial base. Now the Gulf War has handed Washington leverage over the energy and supply chain arteries critical to China’s industrial base.
Hormuz matters far more to China than it does to the United States. But if the US Navy is now responsible for safely escorting ships and the DFC has a monopoly backstopping war risk insurance, then Washington becomes the gatekeeper of security at the world’s most important energy chokepoint.
The US can now decide which cargoes get the lowest friction access and which buyers get priority. Squeeze the US on rare earths and the US squeezes back on Hormuz.
China built a stranglehold over critical supply chains to deter the US. But the Gulf war may have given the US a reciprocal lever over China’s supply chain." - Michael McNair

Eva Marie said...

Marco Rubio (2015)
https://x.com/citizenfreepres/status/2029617056333676658?s=46

Bob Boyd said...

When I quote this guy, my comment gets deleted, so I'll post a link.

https://x.com/michaeljmcnair/status/2029055113264816159

PM said...

Wish he'd mind the market.

hanuman_prodigious_leaper said...

My opinion of Trump was formed by the NYC Central Park ice rink affair.

Me too

Little Excursion™️ said...

When do the markets hit Trump’s pain point?

I've wondered this, but I worry that this time it’s different in that Trump does not want to look like a loser. With the tariffs he always just "cut a deal" to save face.

Iran doesn't offer that.

Jaq said...

So when are the Iranians going to rise up and take back their country for us?

Eva Marie said...

“So when are the Iranians going to rise up and take back their country for us?”
Lol. Did the DNC just message you that talking point?

Achilles said...

Jaq said...

So when are the Iranians going to rise up and take back their country for us?

Before you grow up.

Bob Boyd said...

Trump's Interior Secretary Doug Burgum is in Venezuela meeting with Delcy Rodriguez and Venezuelan oil and mining executives. Rodriguez publicly thanked Trump and agreements have been signed for oil and mineral production.

Greg The Class Traitor said...
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Greg The Class Traitor said...

Jaq said...
So when are the Iranians going to rise up and take back their country for us?

When we tell them it's safe to, and distribute enough handguns, shotguns, and rifles to them that they can beat teh regime's already armed forces.

Right now we're telling them to stay home and stay out of the way, so we can kill more of those forces.

Which you'd know if you bothered to learn anything before posting

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Jaq said...
instead our carriers are cowering in the distance, out of range of Iran's weapons, and not part of the fight.

JFC.

John Mosby beat me to it: yes, carriers stay far away from the fight, and send in their planes to do the fighting. That's their purpose. They're not battleships, they're not supposed to act like battleships.

The ignorance and stupidity is just breathtaking

Beasts of England said...

Even after today’s correction, the DOW is up forty-six hundred points from one year ago, or eleven percent. How will we ever recover?!

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Wow, I made the mistake of glancing at a bunch of Jaq posts. He's like Baghdad Bob, but even more wrong

Beasts of England said...

’He's like Baghdad Bob, but even more wrong’

Apparently he’d like our carriers to be anchored in the Strait of Hormuz so we can show how tough we are… lol

baghdadbob said...

Greg The Class Traitor said...
"Wow, I made the mistake of glancing at a bunch of Jaq posts. He's like Baghdad Bob, but even more wrong"

God will roast your stomach in Hell for that remark!

Rustygrommet said...

Iran has been in a severe drought for over year now. Made worse by the misallocation of funds by the government. Israel has offered to help Iran.

Rustygrommet said...

Jaq has jumped the shark.
The list of people I just skip over has gotten bigger.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

baghdadbob said...
Greg The Class Traitor said...
"Wow, I made the mistake of glancing at a bunch of Jaq posts. He's like Baghdad Bob, but even more wrong"

God will roast your stomach in Hell for that remark!


If there is a God, and if there is a Hell, I am sure my stomach will be roasted there. But that outcome was determined long before I made that remark. :-)

Jaq said...

"Check out this graphic of major maritime shipping lane choke points and accompanying analysis of Trump Administration policies."

It's funny, when I say its all about a global strategy to gain control over every choke point, and to weaken, and hopefully split up both Russia and China, people call me a conspiracy theorist.

It was never about the protesters, it was never about a bomb that they were not building, it was never about any of the reasons that they give you, which are just lies to manipulate you into supporting their bloody wars for world domination for the globalists.

Jaq said...

It's because Iran sits on the Strait of Hormuz, and is too big to control, and nothing else. The rest is pap for the booboisie.

minnesota farm guy said...

Coming late to the party I can only say that those here ignoring what is being revealed about Iran's weapons/missile caches and Iran's intentions, are being willfully blind. I liken the situation to the threat Hitler posed when he occupied the Rhineland. Had the Brits and French stood firm against that there is a good chance Hitler's rise to power would have been much less likely. It is high time that the Iran threat is removed not only from the mid East, but for Europe and possibly the US. Those who have been trying for "peaceful solutions" have been in serious denial. In all the years I have watched the US stumble into the use of military force this is the first time that I have felt we are entirely justified and that the operation is being run as it should be.

john mosby said...

Jaq: " when I say its all about a global strategy to gain control over every choke point, and to weaken, and hopefully split up both Russia and China, "

Well he can't just announce that strategy in the open, can he? Just like the ChiComs don't announce their grand strategy, either: "we are just peaceful traders, investing in our trade partners, yadda yadda...." CC, JSM

Keith said...

So ...

Is it now safe just to skip over Jaq's comments like Dinky and Fredo and no longer feel the need to respond?

One recalls I think Mark Twain's comments about wrestling with pigs... you just get yourself dirty and the pig enjoys it.

I'm beginning to think about just skipping them and not responding...

Rabel said...

It may be time to hide the bunnies.

Little Excursion™️ said...

It’s a diplomatic circus: in 72 hours, the Secretary of State, Press Secretary, and President each peddled a different excuse for the same preemptive strike. If they can’t sync three talking points, how the hell are they supposed to run a multi-theater war?

john mosby said...

Oh Kak - you don't understand. We don't need to explain ourselves. It is a new world. Crappy little countries are going to be treated like crappy little countries again.

We tried for 80 years to treat the wogs like gentlemen, and they failed to behave like gentlemen.

So now they get treated like the children they are. Spanked and told to figure out how to get it right. CC, JSM

Fred Drinkwater said...

Lots of folks should investigate the meaning of the Cold War term SLOC. Might be clarifying.

JIM said...

ALL the Lefties loved Trump before he came out as a Republican. Suckers and losers, every last one. How the hell do you even look in a mirror without a hint of shame?

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