"She said she wrote the letter more than a year after he first kissed and fondled her in his office in 1972, when she was a 12-year-old seventh-grader. 'I’m really glad I got to see you & spend time with you, well not like that, but just to know I was near you was enough,' she wrote, adding, 'I think of you all of the time. Do you think of me?'"
From
"Cesar Chavez, a Civil Rights Icon, Is Accused of Abusing Girls for Years/An investigation by The New York Times found extensive evidence that the United Farm Workers co-founder groomed and sexually abused girls who worked in the movement" (NYT)(gift link).
72 comments:
I guess Conan O’Brien might have been onto something…
Sí se puede!
It's the NYT, so I immediately think to myself, when did you find it, how did you actually find it, and why are you choosing this moment to reveal it? Knowing that all of these are probably relevant parts of this story, possibly key parts.
Tear down the statues.
Now update to "Martin Luther King Jr., Civil rights icon..."
Now update to "John F. Kennedy, mid-century leftist icon..."
Eyes Wide Shut didn't invent elite cover up practices. Clinton, Lewinsky, and Epstein got caught because of modern technology and the loss of control over media.
I admire Chavez for being against illegal immigration (it hurt the farm workers who were Americans) and for organizing a labor union. But he wasn't a saint.
I've read ol' timey Mexican cultural had an age of consent much lower then the USA one of 18. Not sure if that's true, but in any case, this didn't happen in Mexico.
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Civil rites. #ICan #MeToo #SafeRare #NoJudgment #NoLabels #LiberalLicense #SocialProgress #DEI
So many bumper stickers, so little time.
Funny that the New York Times is going after Chavez. Is the farm workers union causing trouble for the Rich Marijuana growers in california? Why do you think Newsome and Democrat Party in Calf loves immigrants so much? cheap labor and Democrat votes.
Uh oh. Chavez has been lionized in school books for decades. Are those now being pulled from library shelves?
Anything to avoid talking about Epstein, wexner, the mossad connection, and the Politicians who loved him. No, lets go back in time and discuss a labor union leader who died 33 years ago!
BTW, isn't it time for another story on the greatest tragedy of the 1950s. No, it wasn't the korean war that killed 50,000 Americans and 1 million Chinese/Koreans. Or Mao's dicatorship and victims. No, I'm talking something much more important : Emmitt Till.
I suspect this is coming out NOW because Chavez's views on illegal immigration muck up the open border agenda.
The left also buried FDR's views on federal employee unions. Even his own Presidential Library whitewashes it:
Compare:
https://www.fdrlibrary.org/unions
to:
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/letter-the-resolution-federation-federal-employees-against-strikes-federal-service
It’s important for lefties to discredit Chavez because he was a Democrat icon strongly opposed to illegal immigration. That’s not consistent with new Democrat plans.
-I admire Chavez for being against illegal immigration (it hurt the farm workers who were Americans) and for organizing a labor union.
I've been seeing a lot of ink about Chavez lately, and how he was basically a MAGA Republican when it came to restricting illegal immigration. Inconvenient for all the forces seeking to fling our borders wide open and replace white Americans with Third World peasantry eager for socialist handouts. I would not be surprised at all if the Journolist Bat-Signal has gone out to the legacy media with orders to start smearing him and thereby discredit his opposition to the border jumpers.
I've read ol' timey Mexican cultural had an age of consent much lower then the USA one of 18. Not sure if that's true, but in any case, this didn't happen in Mexico
Very true indeed; it was and still is quite common for a Mexican girl, especially from the rural peasantry, to be a wife and mother by 13 or 14.
Reading that letter is awful. Even without the allegations in the article, I don't know how any adult can read that letter and not worry.
It does seem odd that for the first time in ever, I'm reading negative stories from the left media about Cesar Chavez. The word must have gone out, the judgement has been made.
There goes all of those street and highway names in California.
It's long been well known that Chavez conducted himself as a ruthless cult leader, purging all forms of internal dissent, and seeking to create a UFW in the mold of Synanon. See Matt Garcia's 2011 book “From the Jaws of Victory: The Triumph and Tragedy of Cesar Chavez and the Farm Worker Movement”. The fact that horrendous dysfunctional leadership didn't disqualify him from secular sainthood tells you all you need to know about secular sainthood.
Meh. Mexicans don't call it a "quinceanera" for nothing.
So, would it be more efficient to start making a list of powerful men who were not perverts?
It’s important for lefties to discredit Chavez because he was a Democrat icon strongly opposed to illegal immigration
…we have a bingo. Hold your cards…
So .. what's the betting line on when Cesar Chavez Street in San Francisco gets renamed back to Army Street?
Not to mention in Fresno CA and San Antonio TX?
…so chavez played by Bogdanovich rules which were Hollywood rules which were California rules….
Why am I reminded of Bill Cosby, sorry, DR. Bill Cosby?
This is the first step of Democrats enshrining Trump as a living saint, naming roads after Trump, and putting a huge golden Trump statue on the National Mall. They've got to "Believe All Women," and are thereby putting Trump on the same level as many prior leftist icons.
He he.
I'm starting to get the impression that I'm an uncommonly virtuous man with no effort at all. It's just that the competition is so thin.
Why would the left care about this? Did Chavez just become a Trump supporter?
More collateral damage from the Me Too movement. Will Chavez Elementary School in Madison be renamed now?
If his views on illegal immigration led to the left attacking him, they got a lot living Democrats in and out of office to go after. Virtually every Democrat politician over 50 was anti-illegal immigrant before Trump agreed with them. The left have no real principles, which makes sense with progressivism. You can't constantly change everything if you're gonna stick to a value system.
Si se Puto
You mean I no longer have to feel guilty eating grapes?
The little girl wrote, "P.S. Please write me!"
The handwriting style in that letter looks like every yearbook note from girls in my Junior high school in the mid 70's
Shouldn't Chavez get the full Epstein treatment now?
IMO, the percentage of sexually exploited young girls in this country, is significantly understated. That said ; the coercion of children to claim abuse , 30 years-ago, was a very messy witch-hunt.
are we Supposed to BE surprised? or can we Just ACT surprised?
I once missed an an important closing deadline because the client was in California, and all the government employees had the day off to celebrate Cesar Chavez Day. It is a state holiday there.
And the United Farm Workers union flag doesn't look anything like a Nazi flag crossed with a German eagle flag. Nothing at all. Move along.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Farm_Workers
"Archived here"
I gave you a gift link
I wonder if the FBI knew about it at the time and if they used the information.
I really do not understand my fellow humans anymore.
" A Spokane, Washington, special education teacher is accused of raping and repeatedly molesting her ten-year-old student – sometimes “five times a day,” authorities allege – in one of the most shocking examples in an unrelenting trend of educator sexual abuse across the U.S. in recent years."
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2026/03/18/washington-special-ed-teacher-charged-raping-sexually-abusing-student-10-filming-it/
Was it safe, rare, and burden-free? In the closet, in a shower, or under the table? Rape, rape-rape, or an oral exam? #MeToo? Or #MeTooTwo? Was it sophisticated?
In other news, Cesar Chavez is officially a white dude.
RC is digging into whether Chavez might have Jewish ancestry.
I’m still smarting over the fact that growing up in my progressive household we gave up grapes for several years to support this guy.
The scandal is compounded by the fact that it's only now, thirty three years later, that it comes to light. He seems to have been fairly open in his womanizing, at least with the older women.....Like others, I can't help wondering, why now?...I wonder how many people are aware of Daniel Ortega's sexual crimes or of the fulsome way that he was praised back then. Well, let's Move On to other orgs.
Just another pathetic attempt to distract us from Epstein.
He was just looking for the union label--on her underwear.
As the Democrats ejected the White working class years ago,
As they purged conservative Democrats per abortion and guns litmus tests,
As they characterize Asians as "White-adjacent,"
As they detest Jews as responsible for every negative financial and Middle-Eastern event,
And as biology-based feminists were ejected as TERFs,
The time has arrived to eject working class Hispanics!
"Democrat Closeout Sale: Everyone Must Go!"
Who will be left? Who will remain? Does the Party have a vision other than self-destruction, cognitive dissonance, and chaos? In the 1980s and 1990s these were the teenage girls with anorexia nervosa and/or self-cutters. Party leaders today.
Who will remain, you ask?
Dylan Mulvaney.
AI answers: “Why High Status Facilitates "Double Lives"
Psychologists suggest several factors that allow high-status individuals to maintain these secrets for so long:
Power and Entitlement: High-profile individuals often develop a sense of being "above the law" or invulnerable. This can lead to increasingly risky or predatory behavior.
Compartmentalization: This is a cognitive skill that allows people to separate their different identities and narratives, preventing their "two worlds" from colliding.
Protection by Systems: In many cases, those around powerful figures—aides, family, or institutions—may ignore or suppress rumors to protect the individual's legacy or the movement they represent.
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While not every high-status person has a secret life, the higher the "pedestal," the more significant the "fall" appears when private behavior finally comes to light.”
Fortunately for oh so many Social Justice Warriors, the note is in cursive so they cannot comprehend and Mr. Chavez can continue to be adored.
Good one, Mad Man.
#BidenToo
Virtually every Democrat politician over 50 was anti-illegal immigrant before Trump agreed with them.
This Molotov-Ribbentrop do-si-do on the Left was well under way before Trump went into politics. When the Democrats were the party of the blue-collar Catholic labor union members, illegal aliens were a threat.
Since they decided they'd rather be the party of urban girl-boss professionals with one coddled child, flamboyant homosexuals, purple-haired spinster cat ladies, government workers, and trannies, they soon noticed their base was not reproducing itself. Children are 70 to 80 percent likely to vote as their parents did, so this meant the Democrats are facing demographic extinction.
Any time you see another ridiculous and infuriating story about taxes being taken from struggling Americans and spent on flying planeloads of wetbacks here and putting them up in $300/night hotels in New York, and you think "How can these people be so evil?" - just remember, Democrats are doing this because they hate America and love the Democrat Party. It's a matter of survival for their worthless, evil party and worthless, evil economic policies and worthless, evil social policies.
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It's part of South Asian muzzie culture to pass around conquered womenfolk as trophies. Absolutely no problem with that in Britain. So why should we have a problem with Latin culture's low de facto age of consent and the padron/caudillo's traditional right of access to his own womenfolk (derecha del senor, instead of droit de seigneur? No hablo bien....)? CC, JSM
It's very sad, and was tragic for the girls and women. You can tell from reading the NYT article that they did a massive amount of interviews to nail down the story.
And we just got done renaming our Jeffrey Epstein Middle School to Cesar Chavez Middle School!
Fuckin' A.
Boy, did I call this or what?
Rename the highway.
It's telling my first impression was "what penmanship!"
From "Cesar Chavez, a Civil Rights Icon, Is Accused of Abusing Girls for Years/An investigation by The New York Times found extensive evidence that the United Farm Workers co-founder groomed and sexually abused girls who worked in the movement" (NYT)(gift link).
"Abusing"
The person that wrote this story is a piece of shit.
When a leftist rapes a little girl it is abusing.
When Trump never touches someone but a leftist bitch has fever dreams it is rape.
These are evil people.
It looks sketchy
So, groomer-gate had both a trans and cisgender character. The Diverse moduli of political congruence in social and biological equity and inclusion. That said, believe all diaries.
So, Chavez is designated as the next icon we must take down. I assume this information had been available for many years. Why now?
Is it because Chavez hated illegal aliens?
Yes, reading that letter is awful. Absolute creepy and cringe. Hard to explain it away if you were Chavez.
I absolutely wrote letters like that back when I was a young teen. Pencil, careful penmanship, pretty notepaper, earnest and completely naive tone.
Except that I wrote letters like that to boys I met at summer camp.
Somebody put a date stamp on that letter. Did Chavez save the letter? In his official correspondence? With a date stamp?
Seems a little strange if he was doing bad things, but what do I know?
Where did the letter come from?
Meh. Mexicans don't call it a "quinceanera" for nothing.
Food for pensar.
I am pretty cynical, and I believe that the Times is only hyping this story because of the heterosexual pedophilia. If Chavez had been a pederast they would print not one word.
Just wait until Progressives snap to the fact that the very founder of their preferred religion married a a girl of six or seven and consummated the "marriage" when she was nine years old!
Is something about to drop on a notable Democrat connected to Epstein?
I can't remember the Democrats excommunicating someone this important to their brand, especially for sexual improprieties.
> age of consent much lower than
> the USA one of 18.
There is no such thing as a "US age of consent"; this is a state matter. And those states who set the age at 18 are very much in a minority. 16 is the most common, followed by 17.
Now known as Seizeher Chavez.
I hope people have at least stopped calling him “sha-VEZ”
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