From "'Female in dress' kills nine in school shooting/Suspect in Canada’s worst school massacre for 30 years described as 'gunperson'" (The Telegraph).
I'm seeing some commentary about the seeming oddity of saying "female in a dress" and "gunperson." Why not say "woman"? "Female in a dress" was the language of the alert, and it looks like typical police talk to say "male" or "female" instead of "man" or "woman." And police reports tend to have very brief factual statement about the suspect's clothing. That's enough to get you to "female in a dress." What about "gunperson"? Why not "gunwoman"? Who says "gunwoman"? It just doesn't feel colloquial. So let's not be too quick to put this terrible murder into the conventional mockery of wokesters who can't define "woman."
I'm not saying "gunwoman" isn't a word. It's in the OED. And here it is in a New York Times headline from 1923:
UPDATE: I'm now seeing this, just up from The Guardian: "Who Is Jesse Strang? What We Know So Far About 18-Year-Old Linked To Canada’s Tumbler Ridge Secondary School Shooting/Jesse Strang, an 18-year-old, has been identified by some Canadian media outlets as the alleged suspect in the deadly shooting at Tumbler Ridge Secondary School in British Columbia, though the RCMP has not officially confirmed the identity."
Some Canadian media outlets, including Western Standard and Juno News, reported that the suspect was 18-year-old Jesse Strang. The identification reportedly came from a close family member, with Juno News stating that the suspect’s uncle, Russell G. Strang, confirmed the identity. Despite these claims, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police has not officially released the suspect’s name....
Media reports suggested that a public YouTube account believed to be linked to Jesse Strang displayed a transgender flag and used “she/her” pronouns. These claims spread quickly on social media platforms and fueled intense online discussion.
Law enforcement officials have not confirmed or commented on these personal details....
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gunthing?
gunthem?
In any case, this sèems like a new modern category of terror.
There have been several recent cases, just since just 2023.
Unfortunately you can probably expect this will be a regular phenomenon.
Its probably some interaction between a specific type of abnormal psychology and drug treatments.
How about "gunster"?
"Gunsel" is an existing word.
Irish Sun reports the shooter as Jesse Strang who is a tranny.
From the photos I’ve seen Jesse didn’t pass. Looks like a linebacker in a dress.
My immediate thought when confronted with this bizarre language was that the shooter was a transsexual, and the AP Style book just didn't cover such a happenstance.
It matters little whether this is naturally violent bio male with mental health issues in a dress, or a bio female with mental health issues taking testosterone coupled with natural female emotional intensity, or an ideological wannabe Joan of Arc (Greta Thunberg) zealot with mental health issues.
The issue is that state-sponsored amplification of mental health issues became common per excessive social media plus (Obama-Biden-Medical-industry-psychopath) gaslighting about all things related to natural characteristics, sex, and reproduction.
"It's MA'AM!"
Need more info/facts. Gotta go to work. Adios.
Here's a photo of Jesse Strang. Decide for yourself.
https://mychristiandaily.com/10-dead-25-injured-in-canadian-mass-school-shooting/
The issue is that state-sponsored amplification of mental health issues....
It's not just state-sponsored.
But you have the amplification part correct ... even to the point of celebration.
There’s just too many examples of fuzzy language being used to obscure news rather than inform people. If they are dancing around clearly stating the sex of a perp there’s a 99% chance the killer was another violent F2M tranny on SSRIs.
First "Hobo With A Shotgun", now "Female In A Dress"...!
The gender whitewashing begins.
Oh boy. Another one.
Did the “female in a dress” shave her mustache and beard before the shooting?
How about something short, straightforward and accurate like transexual male?
Another 72 hours.
I must admit, it seems like the extra 24 hours is because the authorities and 4th estate can’t be trusted.
Seven people dead. Horrible.
At what point do we reach the balance between “transition or suicide will happen” and “transition and mass shooting will happen”?
Another Norman bates. Wonderful.
At this point let's just call her a "Molly" - a woman of ill repute. We can clear up the semantical details later this morning.
The rules of classic black comedy would require an evening gown, high heels, and lots of jewelry, maybe even a tiara.
"Why not "gunwoman"?"
Why not "shooter?"
I think the "filters" that we use on hearing news like this have become pretty effective. This one was especially hard for officialdom and media to spin. Blame the weapon? Can't, in Canada all bad shooty things have supposedly been efficiently confiscated. Blame a male? Eye witnesses say person in a dress. Tell the truth? This is like the classic Star Trek episode where the brainwashed plaintively cry "Landru...Direct Me!!" Mocking aside, its a beautiful part of the world with nice people. Will we learn? Eventually. Will the Canadians? Less likely.
"tcrosse said: 'Gunsel' is an existing word."
But has nothing to do with guns (except metaphorically).
What happened in the Chicago case?
Obviously the most important part of this entire story is not to misgender the shooter.
…if you can’t figure out what they’re saying by now there’s no hope for you…
"Media reports suggested that a public YouTube account believed to be linked to Jesse Strang displayed a transgender flag and used 'she/her' pronouns."
Such equivocation and evasion. If one didn't know better, one would think The Guardian is terrified of the prospect of yet another mass murder perpetrated by a transsexual -- i.e., barking mad -- lefty.
There's a manifesto lurking somewhere that will be immediately destroyed by a Vancouver Labour apparatchik upon discovery.
All the editorial coyness makes the skeptical reader wonder whether they dropped an “e” at the end of the killer’s name to avoid the obvious connotation.
No back bacon or Molson Gold for shim!
If you want the non politically correct version of news like this out of Canada, you go to SDA
https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2026/02/10/tumbler-ridge/
What girl wears a dress during a Canadian winter?
serious question:
when was the last time, that there was a school shooting by a straight cis normal person?
it seems that ALL school shootings are done by LGBTQI2SETC people.
Aren't THEY The Problem?
@gilbar: There were PLENTY of non-trans school shootings in the past. See Columbine and the early 2000s.
What transgenderism did is apply a fashion layer on top of common mental illness.
What a strange bizarro universe we live in
You know I wish that I’d shot Jesse Strang
I wish that I’d shot Jesse Strang
We don’t need a “woman”like that!
What happened in the Chicago case?
Or Nashville? Or Minnesota? Or...
Teh moose cow what shoulda been in the hoosegow is no longer loose in the hoose now.
The RCMP under Carney and Trudeau iappears to be as bad as the FBI under Biden. Maybe worse.
“What happened in the Chicago case?“
I heard “they” were running for mayor.
They cover it with a pillow
I went to school with a girl last name "Strange." She was strange indeed, but not as strange as Strang.
Enigma said...
@gilbar: There were PLENTY of non-trans school shootings in the past. See Columbine and the early 2000s.
YES! in The Past..
WHEN was the last one? In the last 20 years?
IF transism had existed 2000, don't you know that Eric Harris Dylan Klebold would have been wearing skirts?
i'm NOT saying that Transism makes the kids murderous thugs
i'm saying that the murderous thugs are Trans (now)
and the drugs are making it All Worse
"...has been identified by some Canadian media outlets as the alleged suspect in the deadly shooting..."
Another layer of protective insulation to shield the accused. Is there such a thing as having an 'alleged suspicion'?
And the twisted language of the press has become so familiar, it can now be used to immediately understand the unique configuration of the shooter. He's a tranny in a dress, another one out on a rampage. They've created a new way to communicate, because of their obsession to obfuscate.
Enigma said...
What transgenderism did is apply a fashion layer on top of common mental illness..
exactly!
If this keeps up over time, people may come to the conclusion that transgenderism is a sign of mental illness. Even more, perhaps it is a sign of danger to the public. The death count grows. The list is not short.
People who are not taken seriously when they hold their breath until they get what they want find that killing those who do not comply will get more attention and respect from the public at large. Such an easy position to defend, eh?
A sim? Social or gender? Homos are bigendered, a fetus... feature of trans spectrum. #NoJudgment #NoLabels
Doe, a deer, a female deer... maybe, baby.
A few short years ago I complained in Althouse comments that the term "cisgender" was confusing and annoying to me, a former Chemistry major, due to the way it was used to describe heterosexuals. I can now amplify on that complaint (you are all welcome). I now realize I dislike the transgender and cisgender terminology because it adopts the word choices of the advocates for the persons with gender dysphoria. To hell with that, I'm not conceding the argument over their mental health or mental illness in advance based on their own demands over words. And to hell with the AP for avoiding factual reporting in this instance, under the same foolish "rules" the crazies demand we adopt.
Sims are the unstable siblings of homos in drag who are disposed to entertain abortive ideation of selfie and others.
Linguistic jiu jitsu to make normality
Gender refers to sex-correlated attributes (e.g. sexual orientation). Trans indicates a liberal (i.e. divergent) state or process. Transgender is a spectrum disorder. Some bands are more stable than others. Drag is a transsocial condition.
Leland said...
Another 72 hours.
I must admit, it seems like the extra 24 hours is because the authorities and 4th estate can’t be trusted.
You can't have a high trust society with progressive leftists in your country in any significant number.
Samizdat is likely the only reliable sources
Like rebel news or small dead animals
The question is ‘Who is more confused, the shooter or the media?’.
Dress, a femine cloth.. abortion, a homicidal Choice, to relieve a "burden".
Yes
Progressive (i.e. monotonic) liberal (i.e. divergent). Leftists are authoritarian in warm commutation, in color blocs, in Diversity.
As Michael Knowles likes to say, “it’s always the people you most suspect”.
I love that quote in the 1923 article, “Wish they’d give me a safety razor and a shot of gin.” That sounds straight from “Front Page.” If journalist are going to make stuff up, they can at least make it fun.
Is "gunmoll" one of the words the kids are bringing back? Bogart liked "gunsel." According to some sources that word has homophobic connotations which may be lamentable or appropriate in this case.
Describing the shooter as a “female in a dress” as opposed to a transsexual might cause me to lose faith in the national media. (Sarcasm meter pegged at one hundred)
"The local police superintendent later described the suspect as a 'gunperson' in a press briefing, without giving further details about their identity."
Tranny's Got a Gun
Dum, dum, dum, honey, what have you done?
Dum, dum, dum, it's the sound of my gun
Dum, dum, dum, honey, what have you done?
Dum, dum, dum, it's the sound
Tranny's got a gun
Tranny's got a gun
Her whole world's come undone
From lookin' straight at the sun
Gun gender+Sex scalpel "=" linguistic linguine. Throw another baby on the barbie, it's over.
So are the Olympics being held in cis-Alpine or trans-Alpine Rome?
Sex Pistols: Silly Thing
Someone needs to find out why all these Trans people are committing mass shootings. If you determine the percent of the population that is trans and then compare it to the percent of mass shooters its way out of whack.
Trans people are not stable. Perfect for the corrupt left to use and abuse... and enrage for their communist army of broken people.
I always notice the absence of leftist trolls on threads that show the complete failure of the policies they promote.
"SpaceCityGirl said...
What girl wears a dress during a Canadian winter?"
Obviously I don't know, but I can speculate that it is a person for whom feeling and having others identify that person as feminine is of sufficient importance to bear the added cost of dealing with the winter's cold in a dress.
Shocker. The mentally ill are easily influenced to violence.
Why bother courting grammatical disaster at all? Why not just say "suspect"?
“ How about something short, straightforward and accurate like transexual male?”
I think you’re supposed to say “transsexual female”. But I’m not sure about that.
I'm seeing some commentary about the seeming oddity of saying "female in a dress" and "gunperson." Why not say "woman"?
Because he's not a woman, he's a "trans woman", and they knew that when they were lying about him being a "female"
Well they used the "correct" gender for this "female in a dress".
I'll speculate that say ten years from now psychiatrists will describe transgenderism as a form of mental illness. But hey, that's just me and my estimate might be off by a couple of years either way.
If only our language could keep up with our enlightened acceptance of novel and diverse ways of being, incidents such as Tumbler Ridge wouldn't happen.
"'Gunsel' is an existing word."
Yes, but it's either the perfect word to use rather than gunperson, or it's positively incendiary. Gunsel is seldom used properly, or more precisely, it is seldom understood properly. Most of us first encountered gunsel while watching John Huston's 1941 remake of "The Maltese Falcon", spoken by Sam Spade (Humphrey Bogart) in third person reference to Wilmer Cook (Elisha Cook, Jr.). We assume gunsel hardboiled gumshoe patois for a petty criminal who ties to bluff his way though his chosen lifestyle by brandishing firearms. But we're mistaken. It's Yiddish, and it bears no etymological connection to gun. Gunsel derives from 14th-century High German, gensel, literally a small goose or gosling. In Yiddish, it's another sexual euphemism -- one among thousands -- referring to male homosexuality. Spade speaks of Wilmer as "the gunsel", he's not referring to Wilmer's penchant for double-wielding .45 automatics. He's calling Wilmer a catamite and Gutman a pederast. The censors of the Production Code Administration made the same assumption we all did, and consequently let pass a word they would have never permitted.
the shooter was also found deceased
When the spirit leaves the body, does the gender identity leave with it? Does the body, as lies there, revert back to being purely biological? What will the coroner's report say?
Will the family pick out a dress?
She was a long cool woman in a black dress
Just a 5'9" beautiful 'n' tall
Just one look I was a bad mess
'Cause that long cool woman had it all
I'd imagine that, regardless of sex, wearing a dress in February in northern BC is unusual and good identifying information.
"What girl wears a dress during a Canadian winter?"
The weather at Tumbler Ridge is in the 30s F, which to my former MInnesotan mind is not bitterly cold. But in Canada their temperatures are Celsius, which are always much colder.
Nine killed, 27 hurt. So this nut got off something like 36 shots, probably a lot more. Safe spaces, my ass.
Gunner? Guntress? Firearm Operational Engineer? Gunslinger is gender fluidic.
The shooter, as suspected, was a man.
When the spirit leaves the body, does the gender identity leave with it? Does the body, as lies there, revert back to being purely biological? What will the coroner's report say?
Will the family pick out a dress?
That's a great question. Probably one that the deeply captured international archeology community can't respond to with a straightforward answer.
Some pro-gun groups push harder to eliminate "gun-free zones" than anything else. These zones are magnets for predators looking for easy prey. Homicidal truck drivers target pedestrian promenades and Christmas markets for the same reason.
Well they have to preserve their right to call Trudeau a black genie. So no surprise they’re treading carefully here. CC, JSM
I've discovered a weird connection to Wisconsin. As we know, the founder of the Mormon religion, Joseph Smith was killed by a lynch mob in 1844. What I didn't know involved a succession crisis that Smith's death ignited. It seems there was a certain James Jesse Strang (1813-1856) who proclaimed himself Smith's chosen successor and monarch of the Mormon congregants. Strang founded an offshoot creed that calls itself the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite). Its "mother church" is located at the intersection of West Chestnut Street and Mormon Road, just west of Burlington, Wisconsin. It claims to have 130 members, worldwide. Did the shooter adopt the name Jesse Strang in honor of the heretic Mormon, or was he a descendant? Were his victims mainstream Mormons, or is this all just crazy speculation based on an improbable coincidence of names?
I like the phrase from the old newspaper clipping - "a figure in a dress."
OMG... Tumbler Ridge, BC is a small "district municipality", defined under provincial law to be an incorporated township enclosing an area greater than 800 hectares having an average population density of less than 5 inhabitants per hectare -- in other words a very dilute spot in the road. Tumbler Ridge appears to be a colony of religious dissenters, mostly Mormon, Jehovah's Witnesses, and some charismatics calling themselves the New Life Assembly.
Looking bad...
https://mychristiandaily.com/10-dead-25-injured-in-canadian-mass-school-shooting/
The shooter is a dude. But they can't say that. Delusional even into death.
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ACQUITS MAN-WIFE OF MURDER CHARGE; Chicago Jury Finds Thompson Did Not Kill Tesmer -- 'Husband's' Testimony Barred.
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CHICAGO, Oct. 3.- Fred G. Thompson, who admitted being the husband of a woman while he lived as the wife of a man, was found not guilty of the murder of Richard C. Tesmer, shot in hold-up, by a jury here today. The verdict was returned after about two hours' deliberation.
Thompson, whose alias was "Mrs. Frances Carrick," took the witness stand and denied the charge. He spoke in the low tones a woman might use, nervously clasped and unclasped his hands, and sobbed as he told of his double life.
After his marriage to Carrick, he testified, he married Marie Clark, but did not live with her.
When asked by his attorney if he killed Tesmer while garbed as a woman, Thompson answered:
"No, gentlemen; I could not kill a cat or a dog."
The witness then covered his face with his hands and sobbed.
After a brief cross-examination Thompson was excused by Justice Caverly, who remarked: "That will be all, lady."
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The defense then suddenly announced that its case was closed.
Thompson has posed for twenty years as a woman, and for fourteen years as the wife of Frank Carrick.
Carrick took the witness stand to testify in behalf of Thompson. When he admitted that he had been married to Thompson, Justice Caverly sustained an objection by the State that Carrick's husband and wife could not testify in behalf of each other.
I'm impressed that that it was only a little over 3 months to trial.
Killed or aborted? Was it Planned? His or her? Choice. Did it sequester the carbon?
Canadian lefties now planning to seize guns from people who didn’t do the shooting in reprisal.
"Gunsel" may have been like "punk," which had a sexual meaning in prisons and hobo jungles that people who used the word weren't always aware of.
Why so many "violent femmes" nowadays? Random fact about the band of the same name:
In its early days, the band frequently played coffee houses and street corners. They were discovered by James Honeyman-Scott (of the Pretenders) on August 23, 1981, when the band was busking on a street corner in front of the Oriental Theatre, the Milwaukee venue that The Pretenders would be playing later that night. Chrissie Hynde invited them to play a brief acoustic set after the opening act.
"Gunperson".
We are not a serious people any longer. Not us Americans. Not the Canadians. Not the Europeans. Not the Australians. In the span of two generations, the West has been inverted and turned into mass of degreed goofs who cannot accept or state reality. A is A. Or at least it used to be. Now? 'A' can be anything the Elite want it to be called. A is now a Gunperson.
Seems like only yesterday we called them murderers.
Once again, we in The Only Country Where These Things Happen watch as these things happen in one of the countries where these things don't happen.
"Gunsel" rhymes with "gunwale", which actually did have to do with guns.
“The dog that didn’t bark”. Sadly, you can often tell more by what isn’t said than by what is.
Howie Carr, radio personality , author, and host from Boston's WRKO radio station read today multiple news sites, newspapers announcing this news. Only one sited shooter's particulars. Some even avoided shooter altogether, by mentioning only that x amount of people were ' shot' omitting entirely the perpetrator, even details provided from the police announcement of the crime in their crime blotter.
Imconvenient offender background?
Had it been MAGA supporter? We all know it woukd have been shouted from the rooftops and in bold face type, 36 font, and on every local newscast.
We used to lock the mentally ill away where they wouldn't be a threat to the rest of us. And no one would need to be concerned about what to call the guy.
Person in a dress would have been the a correct description if they were unsure of the sex of the shooter and would have avoided their factually incorrect description of him as female. Even woman in a dress would have been better since even the T’s say trans women are women, not trans females are females. He might have adopted the gender identity of a woman, but he certainly wasn’t producing ova.
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