December 1, 2025

Crunchy snow steps at sunrise.



Those are Meade's crunchy snow steps. I was struggling with my iPhone which was acting like a camera with the lens cap on. I thought I could just point and shoot as if I could see what I was doing, but I couldn't.

Here's another Meade video, the western view at 7:26 a.m.


Write about whatever you want in the comments.

98 comments:

Big Mike said...

@Meade, are those geese or ducks or loons or what? I understand that there are a lot of loons in Madison, a few of them sit feathers and swim in the lakes.

Clyde said...

The crunchy snow steps looked treacherously icy.

tcrosse said...

Here's Tina Brown, formerly of Vanity Fair and New Yorker, on her long acquaintance with the late Tom Stoppard. I think it's a worthwhile read:
https://tinabrown.substack.com/p/why-tom-stoppard-was-the-real-thing

BUMBLE BEE said...

There were so many Canada geese refueling on the fairway out back that they almost cleared a path. Feeding in the snow!

narciso said...

https://scitechdaily.com/new-heart-patch-shows-stunning-healing-power-after-a-heart-attack/

narciso said...

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2025/12/01/oops-russia-has-a-teensy-little-rocket-problem-n4946583

narciso said...

More in the odds and ends department

narciso said...

Look more like loons

Jaq said...

You know what Instapundit reminds me of? That guy in the induction center in the Alice's Restaurant story who was yelling "Kill! Kill! Kill!"

Read too much of that website without balancing it out, it will infect your thinking.

A lot of the guys writing there remind me too of that guy in 1984 who would repeat the propaganda from the tell-screen to make small talk with friends. Of course his kids turned him in for thought crime, anyway.

narciso said...

Telescreens are everywhere else

narciso said...

The symes are much like familiar characters here

Kakistocracy said...

Strategy Reveals $1.44 Billion Reserve Amid Bitcoin Selloff ~ Market Watch
'Shares slide as group warns of loss of up to $5.5bn if digital asset prices do not rebound'

So Michael Saylor's official strategy is unabashedly a literal pyramid scheme, and that is before it comes crashing down. Nice.

I thought digital currencies were supposed to be the hedge against the dollar, not the other way around. Before all is said and done, these geniuses are going to reintroduce us to fiat currency, backed by state power.

The one silver lining is that the crypto industry may have fewer financial resources in 2026 to use manipulating US elections.

narciso said...

Landman continues with the theme of underworld vs overworld that it explored in season one and then dropped

narciso said...

Syme discovered in the end no one is indespensible to big brother like zinoviev for instance

narciso said...

Orwell obviously recognized these types in the bbc world service which resembled the ministry of truth

narciso said...

See how many ridiculous things people can believe at once

Gospace said...

Remember Emily Oster's "Let’s Declare a Pandemic Amnesty" from OCT 2022? It's making it's rounds today on X, all with a "Hell No!" or similar tagline. Might have something to do with the new news (new to some) that the vaccine really did kill more then it saved in younger age groups.

Original article link: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/covid-response-forgiveness/671879/

Inga said...

Billions upon billions of dollars may need to be refunded, what a mess Trump has made. One mess after another.

“NEW YORK, Dec 1 (Reuters) - Costco has sued the U.S. government to ensure it will receive refunds if the Supreme Court rejects President Donald Trump's bid for sweeping authority to impose tariffs.

Based in Issaquah, Washington, Costco joined dozens of companies suing to safeguard potential refunds. It is also among the largest, with $275.2 billion of revenue in its fiscal year ending August 31.k

Other companies that have sued to preserve refunds include Bumble Bee Foods, Ray-Ban eyeglass maker EssilorLuxottica, Kawasaki Motors, Revlon and Yokohama Tire, court records show.”

https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2025-12-01/costco-sues-us-to-preserve-tariff-refunds-if-trump-loses-appeal

narciso said...

They really have some nerve

narciso said...

No hard feelings over this psychotic social experiment

buwaya said...

A rational immigration policy -
https://english.elpais.com/spain/2025-12-01/over-a-million-descendants-of-spaniards-have-applied-for-citizenship-overwhelming-consulates.html
Most are "white" citizens of Argentina, Uruguay, etc. Few of these applicants themselves (as so many are aged) are likely to move to Spain, but their children and grandchildren, who can now themselves apply for citizenship, will go a long way to help the demographic situation.

buwaya said...

That was, btw, the Spanish "deep state" doing jiu jitsu on the Socialist Spanish government. A "deep state" is not always a bad thing.

Original Mike said...

Those aren't loons. Ducks.

Jaq said...

If they are not loons, could they be coots?

Jaq said...

That was supposed to be humorous, but I am not sure it worked properly.

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john mosby said...

Buwaya: "That was, btw, the Spanish "deep state" doing jiu jitsu on the Socialist Spanish government. A "deep state" is not always a bad thing"

Really? Please elaborate. Is the Spanish consular corps full of Falangist burrowers? And is this policy entirely bureaucratic, or did it require change of legislation? Etc.

Genuine questions - I am fascinated by this development. CC, JSM

Clyde said...

I was a bit surprised today when Amazon Music gave me my most listened-to songs of 2025, with a whole month of 2025 left on the books. There weren't really any surprises. A lot of them are favorites from previous years, and a number of them were the songs that I had already dropped into my Best New and New-To-Me Music playlist for 2025. I started doing my prep for my end of year countdown on Facebook, which I have also shared here in previous years. My cutoff date is December 10th, but I'm not really actively looking for anything new at this point; I already have something like 44 songs on a playlist that I will have to whittle down to a top 15 plus 5 honorable mentions. I did a preliminary 15+5 yesterday on a spreadsheet. There are still a couple of songs lurking outside that range that may demand to be included. I played the whole playlist today and felt a pang or two about a couple of songs that may be excluded. This year is going to be tougher than the last couple, because I found so much new good stuff. I plan to start the HMs on December 11th for five days, then go into the Top 15.

mongo said...

Several of the usual suspects assured us that tariffs were a bad idea because everyone knows that consumers pay them, not the companies. Given this, why are Costco and the others suing?

buwaya said...

France can't do this btw, it already pulled in its overseas pool of "white" people in the 1960s, the "pieds noirs". The "pieds noirs" included Spanish immigrants to French Africa and just about every Jew, most of which were descendants of Sephardic refugees from Isabella the Catholic. De Gaulle called them all Frenchmen by courtesy, and that was that.
A British "pool" is available, should they turn rational, in South Africa. Half those people are ex-Brits.

buwaya said...

The Spanish "deep state", or lets say the national bureaucracy, is left over from Franco's time. Its the reason why Madrid, unique among European capitals, is a conservative (PP Partido Popular) stronghold.

buwaya said...

The initial legislation of 2022, the "Law of Democratic Memory" or rather part of it (most of it being revenge measures against Francoist symbols), calls for the return of the descendants of Republican refugees. The non-legislative implementing regulations however let in anyone with a Spanish grandparent, very few of which were Republican refugees.
The effect is going to be extremely significant demographically.

rehajm said...

Our judicial system is not much more than a political plaything for the left now. If they had any sense they’d be incensed…

rehajm said...

The parent’s fridge went out yesterday. Today felt third world-ey trying to navigate a service call and upon giving up on that a replacement model. After some insane horse trading maybe a new one at the end of the week. Good thing I have skills…

Curious George said...

Not loons.

Jupiter said...

What is actually going on in the Caribbean.

Gerda Sprinchorn said...
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Gerda Sprinchorn said...

There is something different about the most recent pictures. I can't quite put my finger on it, but they look very different from the previous pictures. Maybe some sort of filter has been used to change the color of the ground? Wasn't the ground much more brownish before?

buwaya said...

Binkov on aspects of the US/Philippine situation in a defense of Taiwan.
https://youtu.be/jmYPhSORXHM?si=M_8SbGvlcKof5HBK
Not mentioned are:
- Ongoing Philippine defense buildup including significant numbers of antiship missiles.
- Japan's contributions especially very recent deployments of long range SAMs to islands north ofTaiwan, plus likely deployments to the Philippines.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3334815/beijing-bristles-japan-weighs-missile-export-philippines

There is little in conventional US media about this extremely dangerous situation. So a hand-puppet Youtuber has a lot of the subject to himself.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Added a new channel. A guy with interesting things to say.
If we are changing ourselves, we might as well talk about it.

Yancey Ward said...

"Several of the usual suspects assured us that tariffs were a bad idea because everyone knows that consumers pay them, not the companies. Given this, why are Costco and the others suing?"

LOL! Don't expect them to reply to this observation.

Peachy said...

Looks like the drug cartel dealers on the BoaT - were destroyed in one swoop. No survivors.

Another leftwing lie - hoax - fake story. fraud "sources" up in smoke.

Peachy said...

costco - much of it comes from china.

Peachy said...

Tim Kaine(D) - says the National Guard, a female, who was murdered by someone biden let in - was a 'stunt"

what? what is wrong with democrats? They preach hate and then their side acts on it - and he calls it a stunt? Screw him.

Prof. M. Drout said...

I'll admit to being surprised that whoever is running the "opposition" in D.C. is investing so much energy into such an obviously losing argument as trying to convince Americans that blowing up drug boats is bad.

To me the question is whether the op is really about trying to protect the Venezuelan drug- and human-trafficking because it's a major source of money for politics, or whether the hyperventilating about the drug-boat smugglers is just whatever was at hand to attack the Defense Secretary.

If they just grabbed onto whatever they could seize on--rather than being desperate to protect Venezuelan drug-runners--that means that Hegseth is in the way of something they want to do with the military.

This latter is very concerning, especially given the timing of the effort at sedition--which felt very much like laying the groundwork for a CIA-style "color revolution." It makes you wonder if the attack on the National Guardsmen was part of a plan, or if it was premature "stochastic terrorism."

Jupiter said...

I'm pondering on the notion of a human conception of the World we live in. During the Crusades, numerous powerful and wealthy European Christian nobles abandoned their homes and families and devoted themselves without stint to what they saw as the Christian cause. They presumably did this believing that their actions would somehow be beneficial, even if they were themselves killed.
We find ourselves, on this darkling plain, attempting moral action. We could simply say, that it is moral to do what profits me. Or what profits God. But could it be possible for me to suppose, now, that the best use of my life is to join an invasion of the "Holy Lands", to liberate them from the Muslim invaders? Only if there already existed such an invasion, that deserved my assistance, and merely required additional adherents. Were I to attempt such an invasion on my own, unsupported, I would simply be throwing my life away. Like the idiot in DC.
But this means that what is moral is bound up with what is possible. And also, with what other people think. One cannot sit alone, in a cave, with or without a fire, and arrive at a viable conception of morality by brute contemplation. The state of the World must necessarily enter into your calculations.

Jupiter said...

On the whole, I think it would go better with a fire.

Dr Weevil said...

buwaya (9:53pm):
It seems to me that the Philippines could really use some anti-ship sea drones and air drones. Having a coastline far longer than Taiwan's and far more trees is a big advantage. There must be hundreds of docks in out-of-the-way inlets on rarely-visited islands where (e.g.) 'Sea Babies' could be based with enough tree cover to be invisible to snooping satellites. If rich countries provided financing, and Ukraine provided up-to-date designs, the Philippines could surely build them themselves. It would be a very cost-effective countermeasure to Chinese aggression, I think.

Jupiter said...

Consider dogs. Dogs clearly participate in morality, at least to the extent of knowing friend from foe, and understanding that they have obligations, and feeling shame when they don't live up to those obligations. Although, an evolutionary case could be made, for the idea that they merely understand the human idea of obligation well enough to present a show of shame when they are caught out violating that conception.
But what about cats? Do cats have a concept of morality? I have been pondering the fact, that most cats exist in a society of humans. Their affections, which can be quite intense, are directed towards humans. Or again, perhaps this is merely an evolved behavior -- I purr, therefore you feed me.

Jupiter said...

But if dogs feign shame, and cats feign affection ....

Jupiter said...

It occurs to me that I maybe didn't make my point clear, with the Crusader. He lived in a time when information travelled very slowly. But he likely understood his World as well as anyone around him, and based his moral judgements on that understanding, So, if those judgements were faulty, it was because it was impossible that they not be faulty, given the limitations of his knowledge.
But are we really to conclude, that our having developed the ability to broadcast grotesque lies has somehow mitigated this limitation? We are now able to see what is moral, not only for ourselves, but for that poor, benighted knight. Here, on this ultimate pinnacle of knowledge, defined as information. The moral course becomes clear, once one has digested enough ones and zeroes. And we have done that thing. Enough is enough!

rhhardin said...

13 Gavest thou the goodly wings unto the peacocks? or wings and feathers unto the ostrich?

14 Which leaveth her eggs in the earth, and warmeth them in dust,

15 And forgetteth that the foot may crush them, or that the wild beast may break them.

16 She is hardened against her young ones, as though they were not her's: her labour is in vain without fear;

17 Because God hath deprived her of wisdom, neither hath he imparted to her understanding.

rhhardin said...

The nuptial habits of dogs, that’s really something!

In a village in Bresse, in 1946…(I am precise, because given that famous evolution of the species, if it speeded up… or if there was an abrupt mutation: one never knows)…

What a curious ballet! What tension!

It’s magnificent, this movement which gives rise to a specific passion. Dramatic! What beautiful circlings! With critical movements, paroxysms and long patience, motionless manic perseverance, length beatings about the bush, convolutions, chases, preening promenades.

Oh! And that music! What variety!

All those individuals reassembling, like spermatozoids, after the most improbably and ridiculous detours.

But that music!

The tracked female; cruelly importuned; and those males, seeking, snaring,serenading.

It lasts eight day… (maybe longer: I will check when it is over.)

What maniac, those dogs… How pigheaded. What sombre brutes. What big numbskulls! Gloomy. One track. What pains in the ass!

Ridiculous, their pigheadedness. Plaintiffs. An air of hearkening to the scent. Fussings, nostrils flaring. Arching their brows, schowling sadly, comically. All strained: ears, loins, calves. Growling.Plaintive. Blind and deaf to everything but their specific determination.

(Compare this to the grace and violence of cats. To the grace also of horses.)

But it wasn’t my bitch; it was that of a neighbor, Feaux the Postman; I couldn’t study her up close, observe the lady’s parts, her odor, her smears, her discharges.

I couldn’t work out whether she had begun by being provocative or whether it simply came over her (her state to start with, her importunate attentions), whether it was only a painful surprise for her and a timid complaint, with measured retreats, submittings.

In any case, what a drama! How exhausting, exasperating, absurd life,seen in this light, must have seemed to her.

And there she is, marked forever - morally as well! But she will have her lovely little puppies…. All to herself, for a while…

Then the males will leave her in peace, and what happiness with her little ones, what frolic indeed, what plenty- despite, sometimes, a lot of overcrowding between the paws and under the belly, a lot of weariness.

Finally, we haven’t slept much, during these eight days… But it doesn’t matter: you can’t enjoy everything at once, - sleep and something like a series of nighttime performances of primitive theatre.

The moon above all that (Above the passions) seemed to me also to play a leading role.

- Francis Ponge

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Prof. M. Drout said...
"I'll admit to being surprised that whoever is running the "opposition" in D.C. is investing so much energy into such an obviously losing argument as trying to convince Americans that blowing up drug boats is bad."

These are the same people who fought tooth and nail to keep gangmember, criminal, wife-beater, and illegal alien Kilmar Obrega from being deported, and rioted for months on behalf of a woman-beating, career-criminal lowlife who fought cops after stealing from a convenience store. USA senators went so far as to travel to El Salvador to be photographed giving aid and comfort to that despicable scumbag illegal, and numerous Democrat Party leaders knelt down and cried for the thug thief dirtbag who died from eating illegal drugs. Democrat Party voters fully supported and praised all this repulsive behavior, and they still do to this day. Meanwhile, they cheered and celebrated when a young husband and father who spent his life trying to engage his enemies in peaceful conversation to avert violence was murdered, and they cheered when President Trump was shot but cursed him when he forged a ceasefire that they had been clamoring for between Israel and Hamas. What can you say about Democrat Party members except that they are completely deranged and hateful, stick up for criminals, illegal aliens, drug dealers, rapists, thieves, terrorists, and murderers, and that they also call themselves The Good Guys.

buwaya said...

I've mentioned before that Venezuelan refugees are a PITB all over Latin America- this incident is on the Peru-Chile border.
This from Instapundit.
https://apnews.com/video/migrants-trying-to-get-into-peru-from-chile-scuffle-with-police-implementing-border-controls-815ec3a7066e46d0805a429480c870d6
The Columbians mentioned may also be Venezuelans with Columbian papers. Thats also a thing.

Mr. Forward said...

I am scanning my old records into a cool new record app. I am amazed at how many boxes I am pulling out of old storage spaces filled with records mostly from the 70s. How did I afford them and when did I purchase them? Memory starts to come back. Flipping through the discount bins on winter days too cold and snowy to ride my bicycle . I remember one so-called clothing store on State Street in Madison that didn't last very long. There were two racks of clothes that look like they were donated by Sly and The Family Stone and a half dozen “sales clerks” that never asked if you needed any help. The table in the middle of the store had boxes filled with cutouts and used records randomly priced at a dollar or $1.99. I would be flipping through the boxes vaguely aware of other customers that would disappear into the back room. I didn’t ask, I was a record nerd on a mission. The store was later busted for their back room sales but the blues selection up front was unmatched.

Jim at said...

I am scanning my old records into a cool new record app

And that app would be?
Just curious.

When I pull out my vinyl to play, it's all analog on Pioneer components.

I didn't buy my stuff to listen to their music.
I bought their music to listen to my stuff.

rehajm said...

…they sure abandoned the save the planet thing in a hurry…

rehajm said...

I wanted to hear more about those black guy grants they were going to award

rehajm said...

I don’t want to cone out and say they were targeting college educated white women but…

Big Mike said...

Peachy said...

Looks like the drug cartel dealers on the BoaT - were destroyed in one swoop. No survivors.


Not surprising. Compare the lethality radius of a Hellfire warhead — radius, not diameter — to the length of the boat.

john mosby said...

Jupiter, ref the Crusaders: Don't be too hard on them. We've been brainwashed by our teachers to ignore the fundamental fact of the Crusades: they were a strategic counteroffensive against a Muslim 3-pronged attack. The Moors had Iberia in the west and Sicily in the south, and the Ottomans were pushing up against the Byzantines in the east. Muslim pirates made transit of the Mediterranean risky. At a minimum, the kings and popes understood Europe was in danger of being overrun, and striking straight at the middle of the Muslim lands would draw enemy resources away from the eastern and western fronts. The lower-level nobles and knights probably just cared about scoring land and booty. The average farmer-turned-fighter maybe was talked into it with promises of indulgences, and maybe also thought he could bring back some sellable trinkets to make his family's life a bit easier.

So to describe the Crusades as some kind of mass religious hysteria, or macro-level hate crime, completely upends the reality of the situation.

I hope Buwaya will jump in with his expertise on the complexity of the Iberian situation. CC, JSM

Inga said...

“Peachy said...
Looks like the drug cartel dealers on the BoaT - were destroyed in one swoop. No survivors.”

No, untrue. Oh now the fools here are back to claiming the double tap never happened? The video is not out. The White House has admitted the double tap happened. Why would they do that if it never happened?

“What Has Been Released Publicly
• Partial video footage: A screengrab and short clip from the initial strike (showing the boat moments before impact) were posted by President Trump on Truth Social on September 2, 2025, and later referenced in official U.S. Southern Command uploads. These depict the boat as a “narco-terrorist” vessel but do not include the follow-up attack or any evidence of drugs/cartel ties (e.g., no visible contraband, which critics note floats and could be photographed/recovered).
• No full or unedited video of the double-tap has surfaced publicly. Reports describe it as showing survivors in distress before the second strike, but it’s currently classified and accessible only to briefed officials and congressional committees.

Grok

john mosby said...

Speaking of Buwaya: thanks for the explanation of the Spanish citizenship law. I was asleep by the time you sent it. Interestingly, a significant number of Brits would qualify under the grandparent clause. I wonder if a lot of them would take advantage of it so they can work hassle-free in the EU again?

Which makes me think: how many of the people in general taking advantage of the law really intend to settle in Spain, versus just using the passport to ease travel and work elsewhere? There might not be that much of a demographic change. CC, JSM

buwaya said...

I recommend this as a quick starter on the Reconquista.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9UnQa0m8pQ

Beasts of England said...

The waterfowl in question are Black ducks.

Beasts of England said...

They’re very good eating, too. Not as good as Wood ducks, but still in the top five.

buwaya said...

Many people in Latin America see Spain as a land of opportunity. Everything is relative of course. Millions of people have after all gone to some considerable trouble to file those applications, in most cases it is not trivial. The payoff will come with the consequent filing of naturalization papers for children and grandchildren, Spanish Consulates will be busy for many years.

Beasts of England said...

Top five: Wood duck, Canvasback, Mallard, Black duck, Gadwall.

Beasts of England said...

Coots are alleged to be good eats, as well, even though they’re bottom feeders. I just hate the little fuckers so I’ll never know… lol

Kakistocracy said...

Because they were working so well...

US to lower tariffs on South Korean autos to 15% effective Nov 1, Lutnick says ~ WSJ

Beasts of England said...

Duck season opens Friday in Alabama, so yes, it’s that time of year. :)

Ronald J. Ward said...

Michael Fitzgerald @ 12:59, that’s quite a mouthful there and while I hear and feel your frustrations, it reeks of cultish grooming of those greavances, something quite common in the MAGA movement but not consistent with reality.

For starters, of all the 50 plus official political parties; Libertarian, Green, Constitution, American Solidarity, Legal Marijuana Now, etc. there is no Democrat Party. Regardless of Trump’s inability to speak coherently and what the Fox News barking dogs tell you, a Democrat Party does not exist.

Questions so far?

Now, a lot to unpack in that rant but I think it boils down to that “No Kings” thing where the opposition isn’t supporting the alleged crimes or criminals but rather protecting due process which I know, some here oppose. They don’t want a king defying the courts and making illegal gut decisions.

Consider this of the boat attacks and when Trump mentioned shooting looters if they robbed a store here at home- “when the looting starts the shooting starts”. It isn’t a support of runners or looters but rather setting a dangerous and lawless precedent. Imagine if you will, snipers sitting outside of Walmart legally picking off customers because they assume the TV they have must have been stolen and since a couple getting out of their car seem to be spatting, they can declare it a riot. That’s not far off from provoking Democratic cities with unneeded military or masked goons disappearing people in Gestapo fashion.

Now I’ve heard all the accusations of people cheering Kirk’s death but I haven’t actually seen the cheering. I’ve even been told that I not only cheered it but was a cause of it. Neither is true but I get how indoctrinated people can twist quotes and create whatever narrative they’ve been programmed to create.

I did however, see a rather different tone from Republicans when Paul Pelosi was beaten with a hammer and Democratic Senators were shot and murdered, just to mention a few.

I’ll leave a final thought on George Floyd (who I assume you alluded to), you seem to be justifying his death because of his past but I’d wager that officer Derek Chauvin was unaware of his past at the time of arrest. Looking back at the Walmart shopper who was shot dead, come to find out, he has the receipt in his pocket but hey, we found a rap sheet on him so all’s cool.

I don’t know if any of that is allowed to resonate but if Chauvin is as innocent as the Basket of Gulibles insist, why isn’t Trump pardoning him?

Mr. Forward said...

The app is called "Record Scanner". Made for iPhone and iPads but also works on the new Mac Airbooks. Identifies the Album by scanning the front cover. Lists the tracks, estimates it's value and connects to Spotify for a scratchless audio experience. Supposedly vinyl provides a better sound but my ears are no longer High Fidelity. Even makes it easy to sell on "Discogs" if you can survive the separation.

Beasts of England said...

’Now I’ve heard all the accusations of people cheering Kirk’s death but I haven’t actually seen the cheering.’

Very disingenuous choice of words in ‘cheering’. Use the term ‘celebrating’ and it’ll become much clearer to you, Chuck.

Humperdink said...

A brief history of the Commie Dem strategy of helping the middle class:
- Impeach Trump
- Impeach Trump again
- Indict Trump
- Convict Trump
- Sue Trump in civil court
- Shoot Trump
- Accuse Trump of War Crimes

I feel so much better knowing theses clowns have my best interest at heart.

boatbuilder said...

Mallards.

Ronald J. Ward said...

Not quite so Beast. I’ve been told multiple times on this blog of literally “cheering” Kirk’s death, even after disavowing the shooting.

I’m reasonably sure that was mainly due to think tank influencers channeling that message through the outrage machine. Once those guys point the finger, the Gulibles start barking.

But that wasn’t my main point.

Humperdink said...

I know this may come as a surprise but the target of the mass shooting at the child’s birthday party in Stockton was a rapper. Fifteen people shot.

If they had only labeled the party a “gun free” zone.

john mosby said...

RJW: "“when the looting starts the shooting starts”. It isn’t a support of runners or looters but rather setting a dangerous and lawless precedent."

No, it is an ancient precedent - shooting fleeing felons. Changed only in 1985 with - wait for it - GARNER v Tennessee. Trump just wanted to restore norms. CC, JSM

john mosby said...

In my initial Federal LEO training in 1996, I was confusingly taught "what's the fleeing felon rule? There is no fleeing felon rule." That's because the people teaching me, and the old agents I worked with early in my career, had come up pre-Garner. One of my mentors used to be a Florida sheriff's deputy, and recalled how they could shoot fleeing grapefruit rustlers if they were carrying felony weight of the fruit. CC, JSM

buwaya said...

Re George Floyd - The democrats cheered looters and restrained and defunded the police in dozens of communities. There was murder, burning and looting, and destruction of small businesses and vandalism all over. They even destroyed the statue of St Junipero Serra in Golden Gate Park, trashed and burned churches ... there has been an anti Catholic campaign of arson and destruction ever since. The Archbishop of San Francisco even had to perform exorcisms to put down the demonic spirits of 2020.
The Democrats were definitely among those possessed by those demons.

buwaya said...

There certainly was a lot of online gloating re the shooting of Charlie Kirk.

Humperdink said...

My parents moved to southwest Florida in 1973. My dad warned me to not trespass into orange groves along the road. They will shoot you, he said. Urban myth or not, no one trespassed.

jaydub said...

Inga, you and Grok should stick to bed pans because there are multiple explanations for the second tap, including something as mundane as not leaving a hazard to navigation floating around partially submerged. As hard as you try you won't be able to tie this to Trump or even Hegseth because the operational decisions likely did not go outside the on-scene commanders. You may also note the emphasis from the press and the left is now shifting to "Trump is throwing the admiral under the bus." Try to keep up with the dem talking points!

narciso said...

The tiktok dancers i have labeled them thus

Ronald J. Ward said...

John Mosby is there a particular pace of the alleged thief that constitutes fleeing? I mean, 2 people leaving Walmart with a big screen and they hurry to the van as it starts to rain. Officer 1 says to officer 2; “shoot em”.

Buwaya-bout-Biden, again, I hear the accusations of Democrats but no receipts.

These protests and riots have a lot more elements than the fabrication you’ve been instructed to present. Was the Proud Boys participating or were they on stand by? Other white supremist? We know Tucker was grooming teenagers like Rittenhouse to pick up arms and travel out of state to join in. And then there was Daniel Perry who openly said on Facebook he was going down a protest and murder a BLM member- only to go to a protest and murder a BLM member- who Gov Abbot later pardoned at the request of Tucker, thus creating more of welcoming to shoot legal protestors.

But, but, those damn Democrats.

john mosby said...

RJW: “ John Mosby is there a particular pace of the alleged thief that constitutes fleeing? ”

No. That’s the beauty of the common law. CC, JSM

john mosby said...

Which, like all the other beautiful aspects of our civilization, your lot want to eradicate. CC, JSM

narciso said...

It was all over the place even kenosha had become a war zone thanks to evers and chisholm

buwaya said...

Proud boys?
A mob of black people constituted most of the looters and vandals in most places. A gang of people said to be from SF State seem to be those who trashed Golden Gate Park. I dont see them as Proud boys material.
This was a similar case in Mission San Rafael. No Proud boys
https://www.ncronline.org/news/five-people-receive-felony-charges-related-statue-vandalism

buwaya said...

There weren't "a lot more elements" in 2020. It was the normal left-barbarian wing of the democratic party, often receiving air support from Democrat prosecutors and politicians.

narciso said...

Sides with criminals and terrorists all the time

narciso said...

This was part of susan rosenbergs urban insurgency coordinated from the kellogg foundation

Humperdink said...

What I’d like to see … the Trump DOJ indict Obama for murder in the killing of the U.S. citizen in his missile strike overseas. Do it now!

Ronald J. Ward said...

John, I understand that you’re advocating a return to the pre-1985 “fleeing felon” rule — a doctrine the Supreme Court struck down in Tennessee v. Garner because it violated the Fourth Amendment, due process, and proportionality.

You and I clearly disagree on that, and we could beat that horse all day. But I’m trying to understand the practical side of what you’re suggesting.

Are you arguing that we should simply disregard Garner?
Or are you suggesting bypassing the Supreme Court altogether and authorizing officers — and instructing jurors — to ignore current constitutional limits on the use of deadly force?

Buwaya-bout-Biden, I hear your accusations but it’s no more than a Peachy screech- Democrats are bad, Democrats did it, Democrats are evil, end of story.

In Charlottesville we saw neo-Confederates, neo-Nazis, and KKK members.

The J6, 2021 attack crowd included members of known far-right and white supremacist groups, such as the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and individuals associated with the Groyper movement.

During the protests that followed the murder of Floyd, some white supremacists and anti-government extremists attempted to exploit the unrest to accelerate civil disorder or incite violence. A Minneapolis police investigation identified a man who was captured on video breaking windows to spark a riot as a suspected white supremacist who was trying to incite racial tension.

In June 2022, 31 members of the white nationalist group "Patriot Front" were arrested and charged with conspiracy to riot after being found with shields and other riot gear near a Pride parade in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. Authorities believed they came to riot downtown.

And you completely ignored Rittenhouse and Perry.

Yes, I hear you claims but they don’t exactly come from a credible source.



narciso said...

Awlaki fafoed as did his son, grandpa nasir was a bad parent

buwaya said...

Democrats have a long track record of indulging barbarians.
This goes back a very long way, but its been getting much worse. Back in 1990 I was a San Francisco Republican volunteer supporting Pete Wilson for governor, a bunch of us (in suits and ties and etc, we were so formal then) were demonstrating in front of SF City Hall (Civic Center). We were approached by a gang of thugs who started spitting at us trying to hit the women (it was a thing at the time among democrats). We were prepared, we went into formation with the women inside. Frustrated, one of them whipped out his xxxx and peed on my shoes.
It was pretty funny really. But its gone from crudity to murder.

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