November 21, 2025

"We need policies in place that make it possible for people to live with their family and then move next door and stay with generations of families their entire life. You should be able to do that in a functioning and thriving society."

Said Matt Walsh, on this new Daily Wire podcast, which is good from the beginning but I'm going to jump you ahead to something that sheds light on the subject of families and geography.

Walsh was responding to Ben Shapiro's idea that young men should move away from their home town if that's what it takes to succeed economically:



I'm giving you written transcript even though Walsh's manner of speaking does not transcribe well: "As a parent, I want my sons... if they have to... to move out and.... My daughters, I would love for them to just stay home with me until they get married many, many, many years in the future. So I do think there's like a gender element to it, but that, that's a separate thing. I think if I, I totally agree that if you're in a spot, particularly if you're a young man and you can't afford anything, you... can go anywhere and do anything and you can take risks.... However, at the same time, it's also true that you shouldn't have to do that. Like, something is wrong that so many people have to do that.... If you're a young man and you're looking at, okay, well my, my parents were born here, they lived here, my grandparents lived here. Maybe my great grandparents lived here. So generations of a family lived in the same place and now all of a sudden... everything's broken down and it doesn't work for me to live in this town anymore. Something is wrong, something is broken, it should not be this way. We need to fix it. So, but on the practical level... you might have to go somewhere else, hopefully with the intent of eventually coming back to live around your family.... Move around, yeah. End up back with your family. So you might have to do that practically. You shouldn't have to. It shouldn't be that way.... And so we need policies in place that make it possible for people to live with their family and then move next door and stay with generations of families their entire life. You should be able to do that in a functioning and thriving society...."

When family live nearby, you can have many casual encounters. If they live across the country, you can travel to see them, but then it's a big trip. There are long gaps where you don't see them at all. When you do get together, how will that work? Are you going to hang out together? The parent/child relationship isn't about hanging out. The distances hurt! They're destructive of the extended family. 

74 comments:

Paul Zrimsek said...

It's already possible to stay in the same place, and a great many people do. You might not make as much money; it's a trade-off. Having the government try to abolish trade-offs always ends badly.

Marcus Bressler said...

Victor Davis Hanson has a podcast where he is interviewed and he goes into depth about the family being together and then broken up because (some) government policies destroy the viability of a town that has existed for over a century. He relates his history and that of his family farm which he still manages. On YouTube as "A Classicist Farmer: The Life and Times of Victor Davis Hanson"

tcrosse said...

The hero in the Hallmark Christmas movie is always a guy who stayed in the old home town.

Josephbleau said...

A young man needs to leave mamma and go out into the world on an adventure, even if a small one. Then after wandering, they may return, to find it a very different place. They become their own person, not a dependent.

Wince said...

When are you gonna come down?
When are you going to land?
I should have stayed on the farm
I should have listened to my old man...

So goodbye yellow brick road
Where the dogs of society howl
You can't plant me in your penthouse
I'm goin' back to my plough
Back to the howlin' old owl in the woods
Huntin' the horny-back toad
Oh, I've finally decided my future lies
Beyond the yellow brick road

n.n said...

Incorporation with remote offices and work from home options.

Josephbleau said...

“ Huntin' the horny-back toad”

Ahhd likes tuh git me wuuna them thar hornyback toad licenses. John Kerry.

PM said...

Comes across as an acceptable form of mom-attachment.

buwaya said...

Most of these guys havent got the depth, in culture and time, to discuss this. In our (Basque) culture moving far away to seek ones fortune is a tradition hundreds of years old. Or older. Generally younger sons would leave, as Basque inheritance traditions usually leave nothing for them. If they make fortunes while far away, they sometimes return, to leave a mark on their hometowns. In every Basque village there are some "casas de Indias", houses of the indies, built by a fortunate son, usually from the 19th-20th century. I didnt realize quite how old this was until I visited Bergara, where there are some of these, well, palaces, built by fortunate sons of the 15th-17th centuries.
So it goes. Our people go to sea, go abroad, some (like my two great-uncles) go to America to be shepherds, like my grandfather who went to British Malaya to run rubber plantations.
All this is not unique to the Basques, its just that inheritance thing that has made it so visible there. In the rest of Europe kids were driven from home by slower but perhaps uglier processes, of escalating poverty.
Matt Walsh is asking for a sort of stability that has never existed.

Shackleton said...

In my life, it’s mostly been the other way around. The kids haven’t moved off to new horizons: the parents have. My parents moved to other side of the country when I and my sister were in college. After we started our own careers back where we grew up and it became clear we weren’t going to relocate, they came back. My maternal grandparents did the same thing, more or less, though my mother and her siblings were adults and at that point spread around the country when Grandma and Grandpa made their move.

My in-laws recently left their hometown and moved about five hours away. One kid remains “back home.”

Luke Lea said...

Here's an idea: "As a new way to live in America it has been suggested that we build our factories in rural areas, away from cities, and run them on part-time jobs. Under this arrangement the man and the woman would each work 6 ours a day, 3 days a week. The would have enough spare time to build their own house, have a garden, and for hobbies and other outside interests."

Half a century ago forty percent of the American public said they would like to live this way, with another twenty-five percent indicating possible interest. How many would feel the same way today? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U0C9HKW.

Krumhorn said...

A long-time mayor of a Westchester, NY city had 8 children, all of whom as adults lived within a 7-iron shot of his house. They were a close and interesting family. I admired him very much and envied his daily proximity to his kids.

- Krumhorn

john mosby said...

Most of us are the grandchildren of wanderers. Even if your family's been here 400 years, it most likely has not stayed in the same place - blacks and hillbillies had the Great Migration, other Anglos kept moving west. Even the indigenous have moved around a lot in the last 150 or so years - sometimes forced to, sometimes not.

So having more than 3 generations in the same place has not been the American reality. Good? Bad? Indifferent? Arguments for each, but it just doesn't happen very much. CC, JSM

rehajm said...

Whole lotta stupid in there. ‘Policies in place that make it possible’ equals more intervention from government, more treasury money wasted on stupid ideas.

Kevin said...

You should be able to do that in a functioning and thriving society...

Gee, we had that -- for multiple generations. Perhaps something changed?

Perhaps something important could be restored?

I guess we'll never know...

Kevin said...

make it possible for people to live with their family and then move next door and stay

Yes, but how can you square that when the dream is to move to NYC, declare your non-heterosexuality, and blame your problems on your "religious upbringing" and "racist" uncles.

rehajm said...

cross subsidies are the fable of the button in the box- push the button and you get the thing but someone else is hurt. You get your thing. someone else is hurt, then we reset the button and give the box to ‘someone else’..

Lawnerd said...

I moved away from my home town for my career, and have lived in Boston and the San Francisco Bay Area because that’s where the best jobs in my field are. The rest of my family stayed put in the midwestern rust belt of my youth. Moving away was the best decision I made, I am better off than my siblings from both a financial and experience standpoint. My Dad complained to me about moving away, and I told him that he couldn’t push me to get the most and best education that I could and then expect me to waste it all by living in an area where I couldn’t get a job that utilized the skills I spent so much time and money acquiring.

tcrosse said...

My great grandfather was a younger son in what is now Northern Ireland. His big brother inherited everything, as was the rule in Protestant Ireland, so he had to leave or starve. He moved to southern Ontario, from which all five of his kids left for greater opportunity in the US.

gadfly said...

In terms of doing the right thing to preserve historic family relationships, Iran says that it must shut down and abandon overpopulated Tehran because of water problems. Land is sinking 30 centimeters per year (although "per day" was also mentioned) as water sources dry up. However, President Masoud Pezeshkian said, “We can bring water from the Persian Gulf, but it will be costly."

However, the cost would be negligible compared to relocating the capital to Makran on the southern coast, which would likely take a century to accomplish.

As for affordability, redirecting funds now used to conduct the ongoing war against the Israelis and to build a nuclear arsenal would likely ease the economic pain of bringing in Persian Gulf water.

Jamie said...

Matt Walsh is asking for a sort of stability that has never existed.

Certainly not in the last, what, half millennium or so, for most. Worse still is the "one worker in the family should be enough" idea, describing a phenomenon that pertained only in the US and only for like thirty years.

But my husband who in his family is a member of the ONLY generation in which no one* moved away, still pines for this for us and our kids.

* His grandparents relocated from New England and Montana, when his mom's generation was adolescent. His mom and one of her brothers stayed in Southern California from thenceforth; the other three siblings moved. My husband has one brother who stayed in Southern California except for a few years in northern, then returned. So even in my husband's generation, they haven't been stable - my husband moved away. But for a time in his childhood, both sets of his grandparents lived in the town he grew up in and he attaches great significance to those years. Oh, and he has a set of cousins who really are that sedentary - only one of the grandchild generation lives outside southern California.

Aggie said...

Neighbor on one side has one kid still living at home, pursuing Masters, and 2 more living with about 1½ hours drive. Not yet married, but getting there, and they come home about every other weekend. Neighbor on the other side, with 3 young kids, has one set of parents here in the same neighborhood, the other about 1½ hours drive, who they go to frequently. Family is big in this region. Ours is about a 3 hour drive, but we see each other more than once a month. For the Hispanic populations, multi-generational and extended family interaction is more commonplace. For our friends from 2nd, 3rd generation German/Czech, they're mostly farming families and are generally closer knit, again, extended and multi-generational. I don't think Walsh is uncovering new ground. Families being important is not a new concept. It all starts with trust, and that's something that is learned when you're young, and if you're lucky, it's constantly ratified by family interactions. Family being a Mother and a Father and Grandparents taking an interest and showing devotion. The government could indirectly incentivize this if they chose to - but they choose to incentivize other, more toxic behaviors that seem, curiously, to increase dependence on government.

Lawnerd said...

Matt Walsh longs for middle ages when peasants belonged to the land.

RCOCEAN II said...

Matt Walsh still works for the daily wire, so he cant disagree with his boss, Ben Shapiro, that society shouldn't help you live where you grew up. If "Muh free market" says you need to move 3000 miles away to earn a living, well that's the way it should be.

Of course, in a real society, you'd be giving people the choice. In reality, of course, if you want to do certain work like be a lawyer or an engineer, you probably aren't going to be able to do that in a small town. That's why people moved off the farm, went to college, and ended up in fairly large sized city.

But the crisis is affordability. Lots of young people have to move. Or live with their parents till they're 40. That's not America. That's Ben Shapiro's america.

Chris said...

My grandparents on my fathers side lived next door to my great grandparents in Detroit. My maternal grandparents lived just a few blocks away from there. My mom and dad, literally lived a few blocs apart before they met. It blows me away every time I think about it. Now, we are all still within several miles of each other, though once my 93yo father passes, people will probably start to scatter. No one lives in Detroit. Everyone left in the late 60's.

RCOCEAN II said...

Dumbo 'muricans cant understand the connection between increasing the population through mass migration by 50 million and housing affordability. Or between affordability and letting foreigners and hedge funds like Blackrock snap up private homes.

So, you get boob bait like "50 year mortgages" or some sort of loan guarantees. No review of the underlying problem. Just like college education cost. No review as to why its so expensive, just "hey, we need to give people the money".

reader said...

Based on my family the history of the United States was predicated upon families moving to areas with increased opportunity. The main branches of my family started at Plymouth and West Virginia. Then as the successive generations become adults they moved. Missouri, Michigan, Ohio, Kansas, Texas, New Mexico, and finally California.

Maybe prosperous/more financially successful families didn’t have to do this. But for the majority of us hoi polloi that’s what you did to survive.

This is what current day immigrants are doing. Unfortunately, there is a large percentage that don’t want to follow the rules and jump the line (which makes it take longer for the rule followers). I can look back through the years and see the names of my family members on the ship’s passengers lists when they immigrated.

Lawnerd said...

My grandparents were forced to immigrate to a midwestern rust belt city when they came to America because at that time that was where jobs were and where they were needed. Today there isn’t much going on there economically. Why should I stay there just because nearly 100 years ago some government bureaucrats placed my grandparents there?

Narr said...

My paternal grandparents made the leap (separately, they met here) from northern Germany to the USA in the years before the Great War. She came to work for an uncle in the hair-goods business, and he was working for a touring Italian opera company that went broke in Memphis.

Neither of their short-lived children left town, except for military service (my father) and finishing/secretarial school in NYC (his little sister). My father was chief accountant at a small cotton brokerage, and used to spend his lunch hour doing the books at their beauty shop in the Peabody.

If my father had lived I'm pretty sure we would have moved to Germantown or Collierville in the 70s, like most of my neighborhood friends' families. Farther east, at a minimum.

TBC . . .

Anthony said...

Both of my siblings moved out and away immediately after high school or college (away at college, but not very far, for the school year) leaving the parents in the old home town. None of us ever moved back; I ended up on the west coast (grad school), the other two eventually settled on the east coast about 20 minutes from one another. The parents were rather matrilocal: Dad settled far away from his birthplace very close to where mom grew up.

The Spousal Unit was the opposite: they all generally live near one another and she was sort of shamed when we relocated 1500 miles away.

To me it feels like whatever you grew up with, that's what you do, for the most part. Personal psychology aside, of course. I'm kind of a loner in the first place.

D.D. Driver said...

If Trump's 50-year mortgages take off the kids will be fighting over who gets to move in and take over mom and dad's loan. More incentive to stay close to home and eat cheap Big Macs. The American Dream. 🦅

Narr said...

OTOH, my maternal grandparents were born, educated (to some degree), worked, and died in west Tennessee. Of their four kids, only the oldest one left Memphis.

I was fortunate (IMO) to get a suitable education and find an agreeable career right here in the old hometown. Moving elsewhere for school or work just never came up in a serious way. (I had a 100% acceptance from the university I applied to; likewise with my two grad programs.)

A lot of my friends have relocated, of course, to points east, west, and north, and always with the parting admonition for me "to stay in touch." Seems a silly thing for someone leaving to tell someone staying put.



Gospace said...

"reader said...
Based on my family the history of the United States was predicated upon families moving to areas with increased opportunity."

Seems to be true for my family also. But I also have living relatives who's family has been homesteading in the same place since the family arrived here. Especially on Prince Edward Island. I have a lot of living relatives there- and my DNA matches to the living ones who've taken ancestry DNA, because it seems almost every one of them is related through multiple lines of descent. Not so for my relatives with ancestors like mine- who all moved around. Their DNA is rarely more then projected for the relationship.

Peachy said...

DD - no coercions from Trump. don't want a 50 year mortgage? - fine.
Meanwhile - everything from the corrupt left is grift, fascism, coercion and punishment. sprinkled with lies.

Joe Bar said...

I don't understand this concept. In my family, it was assumed we would move away, and find our own place In the world.

Of the four children in my family, only one stayed local to my parents. The older two, myself and my sister, joined the military, and ended up, at times, half a world away. The youngest brother travelled, but settled down 100 miles from my parents.

My children live hundreds of miles away. Isn't this normal?!

Narr said...

My lowlife older brother lived elsewhere at times (Thailand in the army), various other places (mostly out West, and sometimes as a guest of the justice system) but came back periodically to un-string and crash on ma's couch. After a few weeks or months, our two youngest brothers (who never left home) would eject him and he would go away for a while.

He finally came back broke from Vegas again, but found a desperate woman (a neighbor of my mother and brothers) who he could marry and whose small fortune he could spend on drugs. After a few years he OD'd, barely 200 feet from the house my parents bought in 1960, and where my youngest brother lives still.

Narr said...

All that said, I don't think government policies had much to do with any of it.

Howard said...

I moved across the country three times, the last move from Santa Cruz to New England six years ago was to be near our kids and grandkids. I've spent a substantial amount of time with the grandkids giving them an old school uncompromising and at times uncomfortable upbringing. Best investment ever.

James K said...

"we need policies in place...."

When someone begins a statement with those words, the rest is invariably nonsense. Geographical mobility is the quintessential American story. How else did the west get so populous? Walsh seems to want America to be more like Europe.

If anything, it's "policies" that have caused people to have to move--policies like being soft on crime, taxing businesses to death, and letting teachers' unions destroy public schools. Like Chris @12:03, I also grew up in Detroit, and saw the massive exodus in the 60s, mainly because of the schools. I and my three siblings all left as young adults to places where opportunities were better.

tim maguire said...

What's happening is that people are going away to college. By the time they graduate 4 or 5 years later, their childhood home is no longer their home. So they go to where their best first job is. If you don't want so many people moving far from their family, stop sending them to college.

D.D. Driver said...

@Peachy. There is plenty of coercion from Trump. You just ignore it. I can make you a list if you need a reminder but it hurts your feelings when people say truthful, unflattering things about Trump.

But let me ask you a question. In the last two week Trump has evangelized 50-year mortgages and boasted about cheap McDonald's food. I find that utterly demoralizing and depressing. This is his "vision for America"?

When you---Peachy---dreamed of "Making America Great Again" is that what you imagined? That doesn't sound great at all. It sounds like neo-serfdom. It sounds like waving the white flag and admitting that America will never be great again and the best we can do is 50 year mortgages. What if he is right? What if America is over and this really is the best we can do. Depressing.

Gospace said...

"Joe Bar said...
I don't understand this concept. In my family, it was assumed we would move away, and find our own place In the world....

My children live hundreds of miles away. Isn't this normal?!"

The truthful answer- Yes and no.

Where I live now, for 28 years, breaking the never more then 4 years in one place record until age 42, now 70, all the people in town I've met and interacted with are related to each other within 3 jumps, by blood or marriage. And that's not including the Amish and Mennonites... And, their children and grandchildren, for the most part, live here. Some (GASP!) live 2 or 3, or sometimes, even FOUR towns away! Like they were in a foreign country the way they talk.

3 of our 5 children are living in other states. FL, VA, TX. Oddly, the one in VA was born there currently living just a few blocks from where he lived for a few years after birth. My daughter and son-in-law 20 minutes away. Youngest son living at home just starting his first post-Army job. Him and fiancé will probably end up about 50-60 miles East of here. Unless he gets a far higher paying job elsewhere. The feelers are out. Any of you want to hire a former Captain US Army? With TS clearance? DC area is out...


Jamie said...

Of course, in a real society, you'd be giving people the choice.

They do have a choice.

In reality, of course, if you want to do certain work like be a lawyer or an engineer, you probably aren't going to be able to do that in a small town. That's why people moved off the farm, went to college, and ended up in fairly large sized city.

How does this statement square with the first one? Is a society where cities offer different opportunities from towns and rural areas not a "real" society?

narciso said...

Most of the country was red (once upon a time) then progressives started to pop up they took over california and sent their spores north and east and south (washington colorado arizona) add the mass influx north thanks to the amnesty of 1988

Jamie said...

We have, at present, three kids in three timezones. One went to college in Seattle, where he was born but only lived until he was 2, fell in love with it and it's praying his career there. One came reluctantly to Texas with us as a young teenager, swore she'd never stay, and is now a lifer (her boyfriend says he wants to build what he calls "the compound," with houses for them, us, and each of her brothers). The youngest is finishing college in Utah and will go where a job is, but he said he'd like to come back to Texas - I'm hoping for some gravitational pull there just to save us travel time among the three of them.

My own natal family lives in northern California, except for me, and the extended family is scattered nationwide with a significant node in Door County where the Irish and French branches came together some hundred-plus years ago. There's an annual family reunion in Baileys Harbor that I try to get to every few years.

Jamie said...

* is pursuing his career, that is

Steve Austin Showed Up For Work. said...

Not every way of life has to be comfortable, or even survivable. If you want to make a lot of money, you must be mobile when young. Sorry, it's just true, and always has been. If you don't value money as much, then stay. But don't bitch about the natural result of your choice. I didn't get ahead until I left my small town.

That being said, guess what? You can bring your extended family with you. Grandchildren can have a gravitational effect on retired people. Again, it's choices. People can and should move when required.

I have family members from opposite sides of the planet, so maybe my perspective is different, but I both moved and have lots of family support. Mobility and tolerance for change are choices. America rewards both.

imTay said...

I remember in my hometown, when I graduated from high school, on of the largest factories shut down and moved to Canada for cheaper labor. A tariff might have helped.

effinayright said...

Fifty years ago, a Carol King song began plaintively: "You're so far away. Doesn't anyone stay in one place any more?"

More than a century earlier, Horace Greely and others urged Young Men to "Go West".

Walsh is bucking a fixture of American life as old as the country itself, where the perceived opportunities in the Land of Opportunity may lie someplace across the continent.


Odi said...

I want my children to move out and thrive, but not be so far away that their extended family cannot help them when they need the sort of simple daily help that is possible when we live closer together... at the same time, I don't want to be a burden to their success and if moving far away enables that, then I'm all for it. Afterall my great grandparents moved across the ocean to make sure they would have a successful life.

imTay said...

My father is buried in the same cemetery as his father, his grandfather, and his great grandfather, who moved to the area soon after the land was purchased from the Delaware Indians.

Only one of many brothers still lives there.

imTay said...

Okay, my memory is a little foggy, and the more I think of it, great great grandpa was listed in the county history as one of the pioneers, but I don’t have a solid handle on how long after the purchase, the area was settled, but he was probably working as a logger or in a sawmill.

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Inga said...

“Whole lotta stupid in there. ‘Policies in place that make it possible’ equals more intervention from government, more treasury money wasted on stupid ideas.”

I agree with this. BTW, when did conservatives embrace big government? When they are in power?

My parents left a war torn Eastern European country to escape the Russians. They were in a displaced persons camp and surrounding vicinity from 1944 to 1955. Finally they were approved to leave Europe behind and come to the US. My mother didn’t see her own mother (who stayed in Europe) again until 1970. My mother’s extended family all immigrated to Canada. My father’s family all were able to immigrate to Wisconsin too.

The notion that generations of family can live near or with each other is just unrealistic. People will go where they can make a better life for themselves and their children.

Joe Bar said...

Gospace said...
"Any of you want to hire a former Captain US Army? With TS clearance? DC area is out..."

I was in that spot, once. I started working for the DoD as a civilian. I maintained my commission in the reserves, and took any active duty available.

I ended up "Double Dipping.". I have retirement income from the civil service, and the Army reserve.

Thank you, US taxpayers.

RJ said...

I wanted badly to go to college away from home, and I did get to do that. After college, the lack of any engineering jobs in the area dictated that I had to be elsewhere, but I stayed in my home state a few hours away from home. When my father died, I had to be within a distance where I could spend a weekend at the old homestead to help with maintenance. Later on, after marriage and kids, we moved further. But most of what's left of my extended family lives within 30 or so miles from where they were born.

MadTownGuy said...

"We need policies in place..." is the default answer to problems, real or imagined. It devolves into regulation, then bureaucracy, then control.

Rocco said...

The first branch of my family to come to America were my German great-great-grandparents who hopped off the boat in 1848 and lived in Cincinnati’s Over-the-Rhine neighborhood for 9 decades and 4 generations until my grandfather moved the family from the inner city to a not quite so inner urban neighborhood when my mom was a pre-teen.

Along the way some family moved away and some stayed in the neighborhood. But they got to choose.

The quote at the top of the article doesn’t say people *should* stay in the same place generation after generation, only that it should be *possible* for them to do so. I agree with that sentiment. I also think any government effort in that area would be extremely limited at best; telling people where to live is not a core government function.

Achilles said...

Walsh was responding to Ben Shapiro's idea that young men should move away from their home town if that's what it takes to succeed economically

Actual quote:

"If you can't afford to live where you are, move. That's not a gotcha; that's reality. Freedom means you have the agency to pack up and go where opportunity and affordability meet. Blaming 'the system' for your immobility is just an excuse to stay stuck."

Ben Shapiro is an elitist cunt who has never had a difficult day in his life.

He has been a free trade all of the wars GOPe corporate cuck Republican because he is a bought and paid for shill.

Everything he has done has found funding from huge donors.

His purpose has been to define the right side of the political spectrum to help his corporate donors. Ben Shapiro is a douchebag who wants open borders, as many wars as possible, and all of our jobs moved to China.

Daily Wire is a dying beast. It is losing subscribers faster than the NYT's. Ann is paying attention to them just in time. There are several right leaning commenters who were fired or kept out of daily wire like Candace Owens and Steven Crowder who dwarf Daily Wire in reach.

Few things make me happier than watching douchebags like Ben Shapiro fall.

Mr. D said...

If there's opportunity in your home town and it suits you, stay put. I think moving to a different place has value, but the place you should be is wherever you can make a life for yourself and your family. If the government where you reside makes things difficult, you should leave.

tim maguire said...

Achilles said...Few things make me happier than watching douchebags like Ben Shapiro fall.

Few things would make you happier. You forgot to use the subjunctive.

narciso said...

so there have been policies that have privileged illegal and specialty labor over citizens, there were economic policies like QE, that inflate the stock markets but do little for the average tax payer,

shapiro has his uses, however he can sometimes be as clueless at williamson, (fne) formerly of the National Review,

Achilles said...

RCOCEAN II said...

Matt Walsh still works for the daily wire, so he cant disagree with his boss, Ben Shapiro, that society shouldn't help you live where you grew up. If "Muh free market" says you need to move 3000 miles away to earn a living, well that's the way it should be.

Shapiro is more along the lines of employing 5 people in China for the same cost as employing one American type of republican.

Shapiro couldn't care less if average Americans can afford to live like their parents did. He serves corporate masters who have supported him since before he got out of college.

narciso said...

now reversing these policies, without getting cut up by the tripwires of the minefield, is a trickier thing, reshoring involving tariffs are part of the matter, but then an excessive reliance on AI, including specialty labor, tends to undermine this path, we have seen how some 'low propensity voter' didn't show in virginia and new Jersey, and others were motivated to vote democrat, because of the limiting of said specialty labor

reducing the debt load (personal private and governmental)
is another elements,

Achilles said...

tim maguire said...

Achilles said...Few things make me happier than watching douchebags like Ben Shapiro fall.

Few things would make you happier. You forgot to use the subjunctive.

LOL. Shapiro is finished. His only audience is the Desantis wing of the Republican party.

Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are orders of magnitude more influential on the right.

Even Nick Fuentes is orders of magnitude more influential than Ben Shapiro.

No Republican is going to care if Ben Shapiro endorses them. The vast majority of republican voters hate him and what the Israel first lobby is doing to our country.

And you are already seeing Vance and Trump pivot because the MAGA base has shifted. The Epstein files were released because of Tucker, Candace, Coulter etc roasted Trump over it. We are not in the middle of a regime change war in Iran because Tucker, Candace and the rest were roasting Trump over it.

Pretending otherwise is just silly.

John henry said...

I've lived in Puerto Rico for 55 years. I still get asked, usually by people from the upper 50, if I ever plan to move "back home".

Frankly the question pisses me off and I really want to tell them to go fuck themselves.

Puerto Rico IS home. All my family, at least all the family I care about is here. Wife and I've thought from time to time about moving somewhere else, she's never lived anywhere but here, like Sand Point ID. But after 5 minutes, we both say "Naaah"

When daughter graduated college, she took a job in Illinois. Stayed there 4 years then came back to PR. Later GSK sent her for a 1yr assignment in France.

Son did a semester as a Congress aid, another semester at another university, summer internships at Mayo, Hopkins, UIL, a year at UPenn.

Oldest granddaughter spent the summer as a research assistant at Notre Dame, currently an assistant to a congressman for a semester.

I would not have it any other way. I WANT them to to move away and live on their own. I want them to know that they can do it if they want to. I want them here (selfishly) because they want to be here, not because they are scared they could not make it on their own.

I want it to be a choice whether to stay or go.

John Henry

Mason G said...

"make it possible for people to live with their family and then move next door and stay with generations of families their entire life."

How is this supposed to work? People live with their parents until they're old enough to go out on their own. Presumably, so do their neighbors and their kids. How can everybody just "move next door"?

KellyM said...

My husband and I had a similar conversation about this recently. My mom is now alone on the family homestead, and she’s quite capable despite being in her early 80s. But, given the direction of things domestically and globally, wouldn’t it be better if both her children (I and my sister) and our respective families returned to essentially create a compound, where we could raise livestock and grow much of our own food (as when we were kids)? Combining forces seems the logical thing. The land is decent, with a good water source, and space to build. But it would mean returning to Vermont, which does not thrill me. Been there, done that. Somehow the idea of going back almost feels like an admission of failure, instead of a family coming together to help each other. It’s weird how one’s childhood memories get dredged up in the strangest of ways.

narciso said...

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1991975409236283738

the wrong way to go about it,

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

"The distances hurt!"

True. Long distances are isolating, despite our perceived ease of communication. Actually, every call, text or group chat, is a reminder that loved one are far away. When my sister died 10 years ago, we were spread between Jersey, Georgia and Florida. We remain that way today, for reasons I can't fathom.

Nothing is more damaging than isolation. -- heard in the rooms of Alcoholic Anonymous.

JK Brown said...

Well, the stay in town went away with the closing of the box factory or foundry when it moved offshore. Of course, when generations working at the hosiery mill was a thing, the kids dreamed of escaping the small town. There are movies centered on this fact.

I took the advice of my German professor, an Austrian, who suggested that we students should get out and see the world. Not directly, but there weren't a lot of opportunities in a dying industrial down in the mid-1980s. Not bad now and I moved back when I retired from active duty.

Walsh apparently pines for the precapitalistic world. Which is odd because back then writing was a true liberal art, a hobby and you had to have other income to support your family. And servants were restricted to their hundred (the origins of the letter of recommendation in the 14th century Statute of Richard II as no servant was to be taken on without the permission of their current master. Apple and other SV companies were found to have colluded in this manner a few years back)

In the precapitalistic ages writing was an unremunerative art. Blacksmiths and shoemakers could make a living, but authors could not. Writing was a liberal art, a hobby, but not a profession. It was a noble pursuit of wealthy people, of kings, grandees and statesmen, of patricians and other gentlemen of independent means. It was practiced in spare time by bishops and monks, university teachers and soldiers. The penniless man whom an irresistible impulse prompted to write had first to secure some source of revenue other than authorship.

Mises, Ludwig von (1956). The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality


Craig Mc said...

Living in close proximity, if not next-door is definitely a thing that Mediterranean communities do, and it works for them. What's the old Greek joke? How do you know Jesus was Greek? He still lived with his parents in his 30s.

Others need to escape to define their lives.

Vive la différence

narciso said...

the conditions of this world, reward a 'talented tenth' to borrow a phrase to succeed, but many are left bereft of useful skills,
in the pincer between illegal immigrant and H1B labor,

Ralph L said...

Mom's father was the first in the male line to not move going back before 1700. His 3 children all left their Tobacco Road town for college/WW2 and never moved back.

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