That didn't sound right. Do most people just believe these stories that are stuck in between posts from actual friends and family? My basic reaction is to scroll quickly past anything that has a celebrity commenting about another celebrity, but for this one, because Facebook kept serving it to me, I went to Grok for a fact check. Was this quote in any actual news sources?
After reviewing multiple credible news sources (excluding social media platforms like X, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and Reddit), I can confirm that this story is false. The quote—“If you want people to have kind words when you pass, you should say kind words when you’re alive”—and the follow-up statement—“And I’ll stand behind this. Be kind, now more than ever”—were not said or posted by Willie Nelson. They originated from a different celebrity in an unrelated context, and have been misattributed in viral social media memes following Charlie Kirk's assassination on September 10, 2025.Key Findings:This appears to be a classic case of quote-mining and AI fakery riding the wave of a high-profile tragedy....
- Origin of the Quote: The words were actually posted by Ava Raine (daughter of Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson and a professional wrestler) on social media shortly after her grandfather's death in January 2024. Raine faced significant backlash for the statement, as it was perceived as insensitive amid public mourning. It has no connection to Willie Nelson, Charlie Kirk, or any political commentary.
- Misattribution in Memes: In the days after Kirk's fatal shooting at Utah Valley University, AI-generated images and fake posts proliferated online, falsely depicting Nelson (along with figures like Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Mick Jagger, and Robert Plant) as eulogizing or critiquing Kirk with this quote. These are part of a broader wave of fabricated "tributes" from classic rock stars, designed to exploit the tragedy for engagement. No legitimate interviews, statements, or posts from Nelson reference Kirk or this phrasing.
- Willie Nelson's Actual Activity: Nelson, now 92, has made no public comments on Kirk's death....
Facebook makes me sick. It's so unwholesome. I drop in once a day to check the current state of American unwholesomeness. I'm never disappointed.
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Facebook banned honest discussion. The only thing left are fake stories and fake ads. I too drop in about once a week, because about every other month I’ll find an item from someone I know. However, it is barely worth that much.
Yeah, the same thing was said by many people on Facebook by people who never once listened to CK. They only heard snippets of quotes taken WAY out of context. Then they go on Facebook and basically say, he deserved to get shot. This is a direct quote from a know nothing "friend" of mine: "May you always receive that which you put out into the world". This was a reference to CK, basically saying he deserved to get shot. She got totally thrashed by a LOT of people for saying that. Then a few days later she went on a big "I'm the real victim here" rant.
"Facebook makes me sick. It's so unwholesome. I drop in once a day to check the current state of American unwholesomeness."
Facebook is Pornhub without the actual porn.
It feeds every dopamine desire with a tidbit dolled up with ideological bolt-on breasts and over-inflated lips, bent over and ready for consumption.
Facebook users are the step-sisters with their heads stuck in the dryer --
-- and --
-- they are also the step-brother standing behind the step-sister with her head stuck in the dryer.
Schrödinger's internet.
I am Laslo.
Way back when I was in high school it used to matter to me whether a quote was from Shakespeare or Churchill or Lincoln but one thing good about the internet is I no longer give a rat's ass who said something and you may quote me on that.
I was never much interested in photos of what other people are eating. Or catching up with people from my past. They are in my past for a reason.
Facebook is useful for a few of my hobbies, and buying and selling used cars and motorcycles. Ever since Craigslist started charging for car and motorcycle ads (to discourage scammers), Facebook Marketplace has become the default listing service. I hate it's organization and search functions, but that's where everyone is.
Laslo never disappoints.
I wouldn’t be that interested in this post, except that any post that draws a comment from Laslo is a good one.
It’s the kind of treacly platitude I’d expect to find crocheted on grandma’s throw pillow. Who cares if Willie Nelson said it or not? It hardly matters.
Except…
It’s attributed to Willie Nelson because bland nostrums seem more profound if someone famous said them.
“I no longer give a rat's ass who said something and you may quote me on that.” — Winston Churchill
Fake quotes and violence are all that remains of the Left.
Facebook keeps pushing this meme at me — a quote from Willie Nelson, supposedly referencing Charlie Kirk.
The real question: who is paying them to keep pushing it into your feed? Because these people fear Charlie more in death than in life.
Great morning on Althouse! Laslo is back. Dave Begley, of wisdom and provident ideas already weighed in. Temujin who I always look for and find enlightening is here already. My 50 year college reunion is tomorrow, so I meet with people of impact on my life who I had lost to the wind will be there. And Paul Klee is still the quietly neglected genius of 20th Century art. AND, my son and his wonderful wife had healthy twin girls last night. Meet them today!
It gives us a place to post cat pictures without apology or justification.
I am not Laslo.
My basic reaction is to scroll quickly past anything that has a celebrity commenting about another celebrity
…that means you and your joy Paul Klee!!
I don’t see any indication that Charley himself had any concern for what kind words might be said of himself, either before or after death. He was speaking on principle.
Schrodinger's equation implies that Facebook doesn't become unwholesome until you log in. This is your own fault.
nice one Howard…
Sacrificing truth, social harmony, and sanity, to the modern God of Engagement.
My FB feed seldom gets in the weeds over politics. I use it mostly as a morning coffee klatch with users I’ve been chatting with for over a decade. Yeah, we discuss the news, but we’ve formed our own bubble of lukewarm Trump supporters. The flame throwers don’t come around any more.
..The real question: who is paying them...
Ever ask yourself, Do people ACTUALLY think like that?
Once you realize, that someone paid for those preprinted signs,
and those piles of bricks, and All those internet postings..
The Whole Thing starts making Much More Sense
I never started smoking, and I never developed a facebook habit either.
They waited until he was assassinated.
What's the worst thing a woman can hear after she gives Willy Nelson a blow job?
"I'm not Willy Nelson."
"facebook makes me sick"
Glad to see you say that.
I am a proud not-member of facebook.
"I never said most of the things I said."
----Yogi.
Ugh. Facebook. The worst thing about it is the difficulty in using their settings to screen out junk. If you go to preferences and hit FEEDS it will just show you the latest things from the small circle of sane people you chose to associate with. If you blink it will find a way to change your stated intentions and open wide the sewage pipes of Reels, Slop AI, generally juvenile stuff that should have killed their brand dead a long time ago. If there were decent alternatives....
“I no longer give a rat's ass who said something and you may quote me on that.” — Winston Churchill
Actually, Churchill got that from Mark Twain - and if we all repeat this "fact" often enough, Grok will pick it up and spit it out as fact! (Just like X's AI reporting that Franken's lie is truth).
Facebook makes me sick. It's so unwholesome.
It’s assholesome?
Facebook makes me sick. It's so unwholesome.
Strange. I too drop into facebook once a day and almost never see something political or unwholesome. Perhaps it’s because I use facebook solely to keep up with family and interests that have nothing to do with politics. An algorithm is a mirror you train on what to reflect.
Kevin is now immortal - though unknown
I asked Sider if Winston Churchill said: “I no longer give a rat's ass who said something and you may quote me on that.”
Sider said:
The quote attribution: There’s a common issue with misattributed quotations. This line is often credited to Winston Churchill, but many sources question the authenticity or exact origin. Churchill did famously use blunt, colorful language, but this particular wording isn’t reliably verifiable as his own words.
Paraphrase vs. verbatim: The sentiment—disregarding someone’s opinion and inviting quotation—fits Churchill’s known style, but without solid sourcing, it’s safer to treat it as a paraphrase or apocryphal attribution.
As Winston Churchill said: "Hakeem Jeffries looks great in a sombrero."
Mamas don’t let your babies grow up to be antifa.
cyborg or android zuckerberg allows false content shocker
All the Leftwing Chat AI's are lying about Charlie's Killer.
Insisting he was "Right wing".
All the evidence points to leftist HATE. All of it.
I asked Sider: “As Winston Churchill said: 'Hakeem Jeffries looks great in a sombrero.'” Is this quote accurate or a paraphrase?
"Answer
Likely not an authentic Churchill quote. There is no verifiable record of Winston Churchill ever remarking about Hakeem Jeffries, sombreros, or any related sentiment.
Most probably attribution error. This kind of statement appears to be a modern, humorous fabrication or misattribution rather than a genuine Churchill remark."
"Likely" not authentic? Churchill was dead before Jeffries was born. But never mind. As Lazlo said, it's Schrodingers Internet where queries kill and so possibly queries resurrect as well.
he did not have a tolerance for idiots, there are too many knaves and fools
I don't remember Charlie Kirk attacking anyone on a personal level. Or saying "Unkind words" about particular leftists unless its the usual attacks on well known political figures like Hillary or BIden.
Leftists are the real haters. that's why celebrated his death. Its why they have to justify the celebration of murder with "Oh, he deserved it, he said unkind things".
As for Willie, he's the typical singer/comedian/actor type who goes with the flow. Showbiz is leftwing so he's leftwing. Of course, he'd be somewhat left in any case given his liking for sex, money, and drugs. But that's how most of them are. And always have been. Good time charlies. Actors used to be considered unfit for society.
Actually I think it's quite interesting that Sider can't rule out a possible quotation on the basis that Winston Churchill died in 1965 and Hakeem Jeffries was born in 1970.
In fact I asked Sider if it wasn't possible that a quote about Jeffries by Churchill existed existed and I saw it in a non-digitized archive which Sider didn't know about. Sider said that was possible and offered to assist me in evaluating the archive. It had good thoughts on this but never got to asking if Churchill was even alive when Jeffries was born. I think this is quite a limitation on the value of AI
I told Sider I had seen a quote by Galileo about Kaeem Jeffries Sombrero in a non-digitized archive in the New York Piblic Library and asked how to evaluate it.
Sider said:
"Key considerations
Historical implausibility: Galileo lived in the 16th-17th centuries. Hakeem Jeffries is a contemporary figure. It would be anachronistic for Galileo to mention him.
Direct attribution vs. misattribution: The specific line about Hakeem Jeffries and a sombrero is highly unlikely to be a genuine Galileo quote. If a source exists, it would be extraordinarily unusual and require extraordinary provenance."
I asked:
"But it's possible?"
Sider said, (and I quote I assure you)
"Yes, it’s possible in principle, but with very stringent requirements."
It seems
People should say kind words to those they respect, admire or love while THOSE people are ALIVE. What good is it to them after they're gone? Tell them now. Today, tomorrow, this weekend and keep on finding ways to give your appreciation to those you like in any way.
Facebook lies to you, so you turn to Grok?
Facebook got mud on it's face.
My word of the day is Mudface.
Mudface just so happens to be a great word, linking most if not all of the posts so far. Including Osbourne, who got a sticky mud pour into his vertebra.
Today's posts are Mudface detective miniseries. Who got the mud on their face and pretends it's somebody else.
This is a direct quote from a know nothing "friend" of mine: "May you always receive that which you put out into the world". This was a reference to CK, basically saying he deserved to get shot.
Nope. That never happened. Inga said so. And if it did happen, we're exaggerating in order to make the left look bad.
"Facebook makes me sick. It's so unwholesome. I drop in once a day to check the current state of American unwholesomeness."
Have you looked at your comment section lately?
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