May 15, 2025

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64 comments:

Dave Begley said...

James Comey published a death threat against the President.

He needs to be indicted.

rehajm said...

…percentage chance anything comes of it- zero.

tim maguire said...

Comey took the post down. The discussion revolves around the number "86" which means to throw out. It's not a death threat or even a call to violence.

Eva Marie said...

86 that guy is a death threat

tim maguire said...

A brand new meaning just created today? Because yesterday and last year and however many decades since it became a term, it meant no such thing.

rehajm said...

The Trump administration must wait for a Hawaiian judge to interpret the meanings of words. We haven’t had an Althouse What he meant to say… in a while, either. Due…

rehajm said...

When we used it in restaurants it never meant ‘to throw out’. It was a code- one that meant we were out of something. One could interpret the 86 in the command ‘eighty six crab cakes’ as a verb perhaps, like stop selling it. Throw out? Nah…

rehajm said...

Where did all the newly minted economists go? Now experts on Middle East negotiations?

Mark said...

David Begley doesn't know where 86 comes from, couldnt be bothered to google it.

Classic.

rehajm said...

We all know how this works. It’s one of those asymmetric interpretations. Some old coot GOPer puts that out there the joint force raid with CNN in tow breaks down his door..:

n.n said...

eighty-six(v.)

slang for "eliminate," 1936, originated at lunch counters, a cook's word for "none" when asked for something not available, probably rhyming slang for nix.

- etymonline.com

FormerLawClerk said...
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FormerLawClerk said...

Tim "It's not a death threat or even a call to violence."

Yes, it is. It's a call to action and may even have been deliberately timed for when Trump is at minimal Secret Service protection - on foreign soil.

Grok: "In popular culture, especially in crime or noir fiction, movies, or TV shows such as "The FBI", the phrase "86" has repeatedly been used as a euphemism for killing or "taking out" someone, particularly in underworld or mob-related settings."

This phraseology would be completely familiar to anyone with an FBI background, such as James Comey.

He has threatened the life of a sitting United States President (currently on foreign sand, mind you) with a coded message the meaning of which is not even in serious dispute. The Secret Service should immediately take him into custody.

Comey's history of hatred of Donald Trump and his use of the FBI to conduct FAKE investigations of him in coordination with failed candidate Hillary Clinton to hamstring Trump's previous presidency cannot be denied.

Arrest James Comey. Now. Before he urges death on Trump again. Or someone takes action based on his urging.

rehajm said...

It’s over. Grok has spoken. Death threat it is!

Readering said...

Deleted. Let's go back to Jordan Hutson.

Jimmy said...

I love the idiot leftists on this thread. But but, he didn't mean any harm to 'Trump. YEAH, you mean the asshat who ran the FBI when they lied, indicted . and impeached Trump. MOST of you leftist trolls cheered when your fellow leftists wanted people like me in camps for refusing the vaxx, like you all cheered when assination attempts were made on Trump;
the violence has been all leftist, all the time. so f((K you. We are about at the stage where fighting bag becomes real. and thats gonna be epic

rhhardin said...

Agent 86 was agent 86 because it means throw the bum out. Get Smart

Eva Marie said...

Perplexity said the same as Groc and so did Google

Eva Marie said...

This is the former head of the FBI who was deeply involved in efforts to undermine the first term of President Trump. He was head of sn agency that later proved itself FBI incompetent in Pennsylvania and said about a man who survived 2 assassination attempts.

Eva Marie said...

. . . while the President is out of the country.

Maynard said...

Tim mcguire said: Comey took the post down. The discussion revolves around the number "86" which means to throw out. It's not a death threat or even a call to violence.

I agree.

However, if any Republican posted "8646" like that, the Biden Regime would have sent an FBI swat team to their house.

Iman said...

The worst - some would call it treasonous - coverup in our nation’s history was perpetrated by the Democrat Party and the media (BIRM) and all we hear from these vicious a*holes is “let’s move forward, don’t look back”?

I don’t think that is appropriate. Americans need to determine who has been making these critical foreign and domestic policy decisions over the course of the demented old bird Biden’s reign of error. Every one of the shitbirds need to be held accountable, preferably with criminal prosecution, conviction, and punishment. As MK Ham has stated, each and every one of these story tellers are full of shit.

Iman said...

Massive deception perpetrated by a helluva lot of people who have sworn to uphold our Constitution.

Iman said...

Comey should be hung by the neck until he’s stretched to 7 feet.

Aggie said...
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Aggie said...

"The discussion revolves around the number "86" which means to throw out....".

Comey, being cute the same way he's played cute before. The former director of the crime-fighting FBI is dismayed, I tells ya, that the term could be construed as proposing violence. Apparently not recalling that Gretchen Whitmer was equally cute when she made a video appearance in her office in 2017 with a little artsy cube block in the background that prominently showed '86' over '45'. What a coincidence ! And 'Bing !', a little halo appears over Comey's head.

My understanding is that '86' refers to an old gangland colloquialism of taking some mook 8 miles out of town, and putting him 6 feet under.

FormerLawClerk said...

And Trump is conveniently already 8 miles out of town. Surrounded by the people who did 9-11. James Comey, of course, was FBI director when Robert Mueller was appointed Special Counsel to investigate Trump.

The 9-11 terrorists attacks of course occurred on Mueller's watch.

These people are horrible and they are enemies of our country. I hope Trump brings them to Justice.

Rocco said...

Aggie said...
"My understanding is that '86' refers to an old gangland colloquialism of taking some mook 8 miles out of town, and putting him 6 feet under.

That matches my understanding of the origin and meaning as well.

James K said...

It's pretty clear '86' means one thing in the restaurant business and something else in the criminal underworld. There are lots of terms like that. "Ice" as a verb also means to kill in the criminal world, but elsewhere can mean to exclude someone or put something on hold. Regarding '86' the question is whether Comey would be more familiar with the criminal underworld or the restaurant biz. That's a puzzler.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...
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NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Good Substack post by Newsman foreign correspondent Alex Salve about the politics behind the election of Pope Leo XIV. Turns out he's considered to be a moderate after all. Too bad, lefties!

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Ugh! That's "Newsmax", not "Newsman"! Bloody auto-correct!

john mosby said...

Never mind 86 47. Bill Clinton is searching the Internet for "69 42."

JSM

JaimeRoberto said...

So is the ok hand sign still a white power symbol?

Eva Marie said...

BTW this comes on the heels of former CIA Director John Brennan criticisms of Tulsi Gabbard’s firing two top National Intelligence Council officials.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

The best line in Trump's speech in Saudi Arabia:: "Far too many American presidents have been afflicted with the notion that it's our job to look into the souls of foreign leaders and use US policy to dispense justice for their sins ... [goes off script]
It is God's job to sit in judgment — my job to defend America and to promote the fundamental interests of stability, prosperity, and peace."

Dave Begley said...

Putting aside everything else, what incredibly bad judgment Comey has. How did he rise so high in the government?

Hope he has to spend millions to defend himself. The process is the punishment.

Imagine what Mrs. Comey is saying to him tonight.

Achilles said...

Rocco said...
Aggie said...
"My understanding is that '86' refers to an old gangland colloquialism of taking some mook 8 miles out of town, and putting him 6 feet under.”

That matches my understanding of the origin and meaning as well.

Every single person knows what Comey meant.

Just like when there was a "possible assassination attempt" on Trump.

It is time people stopped with the delusions. The left and the democrat party are violent and vicious people. At his point all of the true liberals have left that party. The only people left supporting the Democrat party right now are people that want to implement a National Socialist style Regime.

There are only the democrats that act on their will to power and the cowards that cheer them on.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Comey wants back in?

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Trump had two attempts on his life. And Comey has no friends. I mean none.

Dave Begley said...

“Comey met his wife, Patrice Failor, when they were both students at the College of William and Mary. They married in 1987 and are the parents of five children.”

One of his daughters is an Assistant US Attorney. “Dad, how could you be so stupid!”

Comey lives in Northern VA. Interesting jury pool.

Achilles said...

Eva Marie said...
BTW this comes on the heels of former CIA Director John Brennan criticisms of Tulsi Gabbard’s firing two top National Intelligence Council officials.

We are finding out that every terrorist organization we know about has support from the CIA.

Pretty much every war everywhere in the world seems to have some Deep State agent behind it.

The real fun starts when we start throwing people in jail for destroying records.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Last time he was on the TV, plugging a book he claim he wrote, was a disaster. See the NYT "How James Comey Found Mistakes in His Manuscript". I think he blamed a ghost waiter?

Who is he blaming for the massage with the shells?
Big oil?

This story could grow legs. This is while Trump is abroad btw. What a duffus.

Jim at said...

The discussion revolves around the number "86" which means to throw out. It's not a death threat or even a call to violence.

Under different circumstances, I would agree. But the left has been using 8647 for several months now and - by their own admittance - they are quite clear as to what it means.

There is no other way to parse it. They mean it. They admit it. And they're proud of it.

Jupiter said...

"Perplexity said the same as Groc and so did Google."
Great minds think alike.

5/15/25, 8:12 PM

Jupiter said...

Comey does, in fact, belong behind bars, but not for this. He has admitted to giving classified information to reporters.

Original Mike said...

Comey always has been a sleaze ball.

Eva Marie said...

Tulsi Gabbard this evening:
“James Comey, in my view, should be held accountable and put behind bars for this. I’m very concerned for the president’s life. We’ve already seen assassination attempts. I’m very concerned for his life.”

Eva Marie said...

Complete statement:
This was on Jesse Watters Primetime today:
“That is a ridiculous and insane statement to make, certainly within this context, but especially coming from a guy who’s the former director of the FBI. A guy who spent most of his career prosecuting mobsters and gangsters. People who know and execute other humans and use this exact lingo of 86. Comey himself admitted in his follow-on message that he knew that this was a political statement. The only reason he knew that, Jesse, was because a little over a month ago a bunch of anti-Trump, anti-Elon Musk protesters were proliferating the use of this 86 47 slogan, which was a veiled call to action to murder the sitting president of the United States.
So for Comey to think that we the American people are so stupid as to think that he, as a former FBI director, former prosecutor, and someone who clearly pays attention to what’s going on, would believe his lie that he did not know what this actually was calling for. The dangerousness of this, Jesse, cannot be underestimated. When we have two assassination attempts on the president’s life, when we have people who look to guys like Comey, who has been celebrated by MSNBC and the Democrat elite and CNN as the beacon of integrity, the law-and-order guy, the guy who would tell the truth no matter what the consequences. This is the guy who’s issuing a hit on President Trump.
James Comey, in my view, should be held accountable and put behind bars for this. I’m very concerned for the president’s life. We’ve already seen assassination attempts. I’m very concerned for his life.”

Readering said...

It pity Trump could not place professionals to form his cabinet.

Jim at said...

Maybe you could try shooting him again. See if that improves your expectations.

Eva Marie said...

Please Let’s not say those kind of things even to prove a point.

Achilles said...

Readering said...
It pity Trump could not place professionals to form his cabinet.

You mean like the people in Biden's cabinet?

The people who hid the fact that Biden was clearly incompetent and they were using him as a figurehead?

You are a truly despicable and dishonest person.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Lock him up.

Jimmy said...
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Readering said...

Some strange takes on seeing Chris Wray to Kash Patel as a downgrade.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

What’s the story with Pete Buttigieg and the DC plane crash?

planetgeo said...

The Democrats are using "86 47" like a "bat signal" to call on some deranged follower like that kid in Butler, PA to make an assassination attempt for them. Previously, Gretchen Whitmer had "86 45" in the background of a video call in Trump's first term. If another attempt is made, wouldn't it be awful if some of these people sending out this bat signal started mysteriously getting "86"-ed themselves? Being removed, I mean, like a menu item in a restaurant.

rehajm said...

The momentary look of terror on Bobby's face made me think of his father, suddenly interrupted and shot dead.

Nobody should be okay with what Comey did…

wendybar said...

Anybody paying attention knows it was a threat, and he is an idiot if he thinks we don't know that HE knows exactly what it means.....
“In Holland, Mich., Redmond, Ore., and elsewhere, grinning marchers wore shirts and carried placards emblazoned with the number “8647,” pairing the old slang term for murder with a 47 for Trump.One 8647 protester stood right alongside Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison in Minneapolis.

“Hands off or heads off,” read the message on a life-size guillotine paraded about in Denver."

https://nypost.com/2025/04/08/opinion/democrats-lit-the-assassination-culture-fuse-now-their-silence-equals-violence/

rehajm said...

It’s the perfect type of grammar school play on language the left loves. No, I didn’t mean what I’m pretending I didn’t mean, I meant it the other way…

Rusty said...

Readering said...
"Some strange takes on seeing Chris Wray to Kash Patel as a downgrade."
Yeah. Mediocrities think that way.

wendybar said...

Oh, looky here. The FBI director has an new BOOK coming out he wants you to buy. What better way to get your name out there, then to make sure you post something controversial that you know you are going to get away with because of the side you are on.....
Meghan Maureen
@Keggs719
Oh and while we are talking about James Comey and his "silly mistake" and now he's back in the news out of nowhere because of this "unintentional gaffe" just a heads up his new book comes out Tuesday May 20th which is clearly a coincidence.
7:57 AM · May 16, 2025
https://www.amazon.com/FDR-Drive-Nora-Carleton-3/

rehajm said...

meh. Leftie book deals were once the A-list way to transfer payoffs* but now even low-level lefties get book deal payoffs. Money from leftie coffers (AdBlue, USAID, NGO slushies) gets laundered through the publishers and ‘institutions’ (US Treasury, USAID money to academia, local libraries, ‘subscriptions’) as payoff to the perp.

…I wanna know how much it costs to roam the beach Comey gets to wander. Something tells me it ain’t Rehoboth…

*I think the payoffs to A-list grew so large as to make the book deal scheme impractical. Nobody’s gonna believe the Clinton’s sold 100 million copies of book twelve…

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