April 27, 2025

"To get answers, one neuroscientist, Harvey J. Grill of the University of Pennsylvania, turned to rats and asked what would happen if he removed all of their brains except their brainstems."

Do we really have free will when it comes to eating? It’s a vexing question that is at the heart of why so many people find it so difficult to stick to a diet.... The brainstem controls basic functions like heart rate and breathing. But the animals could not smell, could not see, could not remember. Would they know when they had consumed enough calories? To find out, Dr. Grill dripped liquid food into their mouths. "When they reached a stopping point, they allowed the food to drain out of their mouths," he said...."

24 comments:

Jeff said...

"what would happen if he removed all of their brains except for their brainstems?"
Hmmm, lemme think on that a bit... They'd vote Democrat? Troll the Althouse comments? Surely we can come up with more...

Enigma said...

For the 1,000,000th time in the last 100 years, a neuroscientist induces massive damage and then...ASSuMEs...the findings apply to a normal brain.

Listen, but with skepticism.

Randomizer said...

"While most of the studies were in rodents, it defies belief to think that humans are somehow different, said Dr. Jeffrey Friedman, "

Dr. Friedman may be one of those experts we should be skeptical about. It is easy to believe that humans may be different from rodents in how we make food choices.

MadTownGuy said...

"To get answers, one neuroscientist, Harvey J. Grill of the University of Pennsylvania, turned to rats and asked what would happen if he removed all of their brains except their brainstems."

He forgot to mention that they became Progressives.

Iman said...

Moar rat-fucker scientists please!

boatbuilder said...

This may explain what Penn paid Joe Biden all that Chinese money for.

tim maguire said...

If they want to apply these lessons to humans, they need to explain away the myriad studies that connect eating and socializing. Humans eat more, a lot more, in social settings than when we are alone. We also eat more, a lot more, when visual trickery makes it look like we haven’t eaten very much.

rhhardin said...

Let's hear it for getting answers. But the grant proposal should also explain where the question came from.

Sebastian said...

"Do we really have free will when it comes to eating?" Yes.

"It’s a vexing question" No. Just because people don't like the answer, and make bad choices, doesn't mean the question is vexing.

Bob Boyd said...

The next logical step after stomach stapling fails.

Bob Boyd said...

Granted, removing the brain is a big step, but if it helps you lose that weight and find love...

Bob Boyd said...

The best brain pruners will tell you, it's as much an art as a science. You have to take enough so she's thin and hot, but leave enough so she can still make you a sammich.

robother said...

I slept in, others here have already released the Demon rats!

Bob Boyd said...

The goal is, you go to your class re-unuion and you look so good nobody notices your brain has been surgically removed.

Bob Boyd said...

Humans eat more, a lot more, in social settings than when we are alone.

Some people eat more when nobody's watching.

Temujin said...

First of all, this is an insane sort of research. Do we need to actually work on removing brains from rats to see if they'd continue to overeat.
We have human examples all over Seattle and Portland.

Joe Bar said...

These comments are FIRE!

Lazarus said...

"Harvey Grill" is a great name, and how appropriate that his specialty is apparently food research.

I'm not sure I'd really like to be his friend or neighbor, though. Reasons: 1) Works with rats. 2) Removes their brains. 3) Force-feeds them. 4) Until the food dribbles out of their mouths. 5) Works at UPenn. On the plus side, maybe West Philly has fewer rats now thanks to Harvey Grill (the man, not some skeevy restaurant).

IamDevo said...

Pretty much agree with Temujin. I have no love of rats (Willard notwithstanding) and in my youth, I shot many of them at the municipal landfill (what we used to call "the dump") plinking with my J.C. Higgins single shot/single action .22. But while blowing out a rat's brains for target practice (and vermin control) is one thing, it's another to scoop their brains out and then call it "an experiment." I'm glad I don't live near Herr Doktor Grill.

John E. said...

"Do we really have free will when it comes to eating?" Some of those Irish hunger strikers say yes, from the grave.

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Jupiter said...

Dr. Grill is paid a lot of money to do this sick shit.

Jupiter said...

Dr. Grill is a neuroscientist. He studies brains and stuff. He could probably tell you why it's a good idea to cut your son's balls off. Cuz he's all sciency and shit.

tolkein said...

He’s a monster.

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