April 2, 2025

Things not found on eBay.

I see Pete Townshend recently said, "Four and a half weeks ago, I had my left knee replaced.... Maybe I should auction off the old one."

Quoted in "The Who singer Roger Daltrey going deaf and blind at 81: ‘The joys of getting old’" (NY Post)(I think Daltrey was just setting up a "Tommy" joke: He still has his voice or he'd "have a full Tommy.")

Do they let you take your old knee home with you after a replacement? I'm picturing Pete Townshend's knee in a glass case at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame labeled with some riff on "hope I die before I get old." It would be like those relics of saints you might see in an old cathedral. I'm not Catholic, but I've wondered about the inconsistency with the visualization of Judgment Day of bodies rising up out of graves — as depicted in the "Last Judgment" mural in the Sistine Chapel.


Isn't this why some people don't want to donate their organs — they think they might need them in the afterlife? Wouldn't it be a kick in the head if failing to check the organ-donor box on your driver's license turned out to be the shortcoming that barred you from heaven?

32 comments:

Curious George said...

I didn't get to take either of my hip joints home after replacement, but I did get sent home with two surgical infections on my second one.

Iman said...

It appears all those leaps and bounds extracted a toll on the bebeaked guitarist.

wild chicken said...

The reason I don't donate is because I don't want Medicine to be in a hurry to harvest.

Ice Nine said...

Daltrey will embark on a solo tour in a couple months. He's going about as deaf and blind as are the rest of us of a certain age.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Roger's going deaf? Why is that a big deal? Pete's had hearing issues since Keith Moon blew up his drum kit on the Smothers Brothers Show back in 1967!

tcrosse said...

French aristocrats were assured by the Church that in heaven they would be reunited with their heads.

mezzrow said...

They can 3D print enough copies of the Townshend knee to put one in each Hard Rock cafe and/or casino. Kind of like seeing a copy of the Lombardi Trophy every time you walk into a Shula's steakhouse. Pitch it to the Seminoles.

If you have a "be careful what you wish for" tag, I'd add it.

Rocco said...

I'm not Catholic, but I've wondered about the inconsistency with the visualization of Judgment Day of bodies rising up out of graves — as depicted in the "Last Judgment" mural in the Sistine Chapel.

What inconsistency? And the Sistine Chapel is a work of art (about a theological point), not a medical text.

Jim Howard said...

I have had both knees replaced. As an engineer, I was tickled when the surgeon printed 3-D replicas of my horrible knees to use him and helping to plan the replacement operation. I got to keep the 3-D replicas, but I didn’t even think about keeping the actual bones maybe I should have.

Hassayamper said...

Everyone in Michelanglo's heaven is amazingly jacked, aren't they? Was everyone that robust in those days? I would have thought that Italian peasants subsisting on thin polenta and onions would have been rather scrawny.

mikee said...

The first time I visited a HardRock Cafe 40 years ago, they had a frilly white shirt Meatloaf had worn in concert. It was in a sealed glass case, with a note saying it had not been laundered since being worn. Imagine the smell!

As to knee issues, I thank God for motorcycle riders who contribute body parts after their wrecks. I like to think that group is the most likely to have contributed my new-from-cadaver ACL for my own knee.

Darkisland said...

Why shouldn't he auction off his body parts? Sydney Leathers was on Howard Stern about 11 years back trying to auction off her labia. She had them encased in lucite after a labiectomy.

What I found most amusing about the whole sordid tale was that when they showed them, in the lucite, they blurred them out.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-misfit-mistress/
John Henry

Darkisland said...

Mikee,

Another reason to oppose helmet laws.

John Henry

Darkisland said...

That one guy in the bottom center does not look happy. "There I was, one minute enjoying my dirt nap. The next I'm flying through the air to God only knows where. I wish they'd just leave me alone."

John Henry

Ampersand said...

The logistics of eternal salvation and damnation are daunting on many levels.

Aggie said...

" "The Who singer Roger Daltrey going deaf and blind at 81...."

Who's up for some pinball ?

Aggie said...

Crap.

Josephbleau said...

It seems that the best deal is to die young, that way you would get the hottest girls in heaven. Or be a contrarian and assume that the hottest girls are in hell and plan your life accordingly.

Big Mike said...

Do they let you take your old knee home with you after a replacement?

Like Jim Howard upthread I’ve had both knees replaced. Short answer is no, you do not get your old knees back any more than you get your appendix after an appendectomy.

-Isn't this why some people don't want to donate their organs — they think they might need them in the afterlife?

I don’t think so. In my case the sticking point has been stories about people rendered only partially unconscious by anesthesia, and who claim to have hear the doctors discussing how to divvy up their respective organs.

FWBuff said...

According to Jesus:

"And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell." - Mark 9:47

Rocco said...

Josephbleau said...
It seems that the best deal is to die young, that way you would get the hottest girls in heaven. Or be a contrarian and assume that the hottest girls are in hell and plan your life accordingly.

They say if you go into a con and don’t know who the mark is, you’re the mark. The same way, if you go into the afterlife and you don’t have 72 virgins, you’re a virgin.

Nancy said...

Isak Dinesen wrote a short story about an old man who was tormented by having eaten human flesh to survive when lost at sea as a boy. The flesh was from the hand of a corpse. Another character tells him that on Judgment Day that hand will grasp his entrails and pull him into Heaven.

YoungHegelian said...

I asked the dentist for all five (yes, five, not four) of my wisdom teeth when they got removed in my late twenties. They look like teeth from a cow!

YoungHegelian said...

Ahhh, the Resurrection of the Body. One of my favorite doctrines! When I read Prof. Althouse's posting the first time, I thought she was implying that the Resurrection of the Body (RoB) was a Catholic thing, and I was going to take great umbrage and say how it was the last line of the Nicene Creed and all Nicene Christians accept it, and how even among low church Protestantism, there's all these sacred blue grass songs on the Resurrection of the Body(1), yadda, yadda, yadda. But, upon a second reading, I saw she was saying that it's the veneration of relics which is a Catholic thing, which is basically true. So, umbrage put on hold until another day.

However, what's little known is that the RoB is a doctrine central to all of the Abrahamic faiths, Matter of fact, in Islam, it's the prophet Jesus (Isa in Islamic eschatology) who will return to before the Last Judgement and the RoB.(2)

And, as for Rabbinic Judaism, the RoB is the central belief of Jewish Eschatology. Reform Judaism explicitly dumped the RoB in its founding documents in favor of a straight immortality of the soul, but in traditional Rabbinic Judaism, the RoB was by far the consensus doctrine. (3)

1) Bluegrass Resurrection of the Body

2) Islamic Eschatology

3) Rabbinic RoB

Rusty said...

In the case of my left hip there was nothing left to take home. The socket had completely eroded away and there was nothing resembling a ball at the end of my femur. The Dr. was amazed I came in under my own power. They had to take an MRI of my right hip and recreate it on my left.

Ambrose said...

We saw Roger Daltrey in concert last year. His voice was still wonderfully strong but his hearing made it difficult for him to start songs in the right key. He stopped, apologized and restarted a couple of times. The crowd of lifelong fans were understanding and forgiving. He was harder on himself .

Lazarus said...

If you donate your organs, you may end up sharing a heart or liver or kidney or spleen or eyeball with someone else in heaven. Or in hell. But what if the two of you are headed to different places?

john mosby said...

Hassayamper: "Everyone in Michelanglo's heaven is amazingly jacked, aren't they?"

Michelangelo used any and all subjects as an excuse for gay muscle porn. The Sistine Chapel figures were originally full-frontal; drapery was added by Popes who didn't want to be so flagrant. Even Michelangelo's women are basically men with soup-bowl boobies stuck on.

To your point of most 16th century Italians being skinny, yeah, I don't know where he found models, other than in classical sculpture and/or his mental wank bank.

JSM

Prof. M. Drout said...

Scholars were troubled by this in the Middle Ages. I wish I could find the manuscript illustration of fish and crocodiles barfing up limbs and hands in order to reassemble bodies for Judgment Day.
There was also a fair bit of discussion of what happened if a person died, a pig at the person, and then some other person ate the pig.
Sounds very "medieval" and all, but we have no evidence that any normal people were worried about these kinds of things.
The "answer" is that donating your organs or unknowingly eating a pig that ate a person would NOT keep you out of heaven or make you have an incomplete body at the Last Judgment. God will handle it.
(Like the arguments over Transubstantiation, it's fundamentally a byproduct of the effort to harmonize Aristotle and Christianity. BTW, reading those philosophical debates will hurt your brain and make you never want to see the words "substance" and "accident" ever again).

Prof. M. Drout said...

Josephbleau said...
"It seems that the best deal is to die young, that way you would get the hottest girls in heaven. Or be a contrarian and assume that the hottest girls are in hell and plan your life accordingly."

Everybody in heaven is 33 years old. Even a 2-year-old will be 33 in heaven because that's how old Jesus was when he died and you can't argue with Science.

(This is one of the conceits that makes the Middle English poem Pearl work: the daughter--probably named Margery--of the narrator of the poem died at age two. The father lies down on her grave to weep and has a vision of a beautiful young maiden calling to him from the opposite bank of a river. She tells him that she is his daughter. He is confused because she is not a child, and she explains that she is one of the 144,000 virgins who attend the Virgin Mary in heaven. Pearl is an incredibly beautiful poem; J.R.R. Tolkien's translation of it is excellent).

Marcus Bressler said...

David Sedaris wrote about a fatty tumor he wanted to keep after it was removed so he could feed it to a snapping turtle near his home. He wasn't allowed to keep it IIRC, but he managed to get something similar though other means. I told you he was mentally ill.

Wince said...

I recall the story of a concert promoter visiting the dressing room of The Who. He asked Daltry whether Townsend, across the room, really had hearing problems.

Roger said, "Say the words 'two million dollar guarantee' and see if he hears you!"

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