“The government contends that this is all OK because the mother wishes that the child be deported with her,” wrote Judge Doughty, a conservative Trump appointee. “But the court doesn’t know that.”
Asserting that “it is illegal and unconstitutional to deport” a U.S. citizen, Judge Doughty set a hearing for May 16 to explore his “strong suspicion that the government just deported a U.S. citizen with no meaningful process.”
April 26, 2025
The failure to rip a child from its mother's arms.
I'm reading "2-Year-Old U.S. Citizen Deported 'With No Meaningful Process,' Judge Suspects/A federal judge in Louisiana said the deportation of the child to Honduras with her mother, even though her father had filed an emergency petition, appeared to be 'illegal and unconstitutional'" (NYT).
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It’s semantics, is it not? The child is traveling with their deported mother. The child is not being deported in the true sense of the word.
This is really getting stupid.
"...a conservative Trump appointee..."
You can't despise the NYT enough.
If the judge were a Biden appointee, should the judge just say: "Too bad, Dad, the kid's gone. Nothing we can do."
What should a law-abiding judge do in this situation?
I'm a little confused about your take on this, Professor. If the father filed an emergency petition, shouldn't that have been heard (as a legal matter)? Or is possession really 9/10 of the law?
I’m always amazed by “conservatives” online who claim to know that government employees are inefficient, stupid and corrupt but someone become brilliant never erring when it comes to throwing people out of the country. Deport people but only after a light a due process. It isn’t hard.
Deport people but only after a light a due process. It isn’t hard.
4/26/25, 7:56 AM
They didn't need due process to invade our country, so I don't care that they have to leave with none. They don't belong here. Apply for due process from your home country, don't gum up OUR so called justice system for people who broke the rules to get here.
I hate these articles that refuse to name the Judge. Tell us who it is. Its not "A judge in LA" its "Judge X". But this is just more of the same.
This is what you get when you worship Judges and Lawyers. People have given them unlimited power and they're using it. Don't like it? Get Congress to do something. Or tell Trump to pull an Andrew Johnson.
Babbling about how this "doesn't make sense" or "Gosh, I like some of this, but not most of it" is just a waste of time. Judges can do whatever they want. They don't care what the average American thinks.
Wendybar, when did this two year old 'invade'?
Its own birth?
it's Still Okay to launch Hellfires at US citizens, though.. Right?
it's Still Okay to fire bomb ENTIRE compounds full of little US citizens, though.. Right?
Sometimes, i Forget; that Laws are ONLY for Republicans
Immigration sob stories are like buttholes; everybody's got one. Too f****** bad. Life ain't fair so adios muchacho.
Catastrophic Anthropogenic Immigration Reform. Fortunately, the child was not ripped from the illegal alien's arms. The advocates for labor arbitrage and Democratic gerrymandering escape scrutiny this time.
That said, emigration reform to mitigate progress at both ends of the bridge and throughout.
remember Elian 25 years ago, yeah my sympathy meter is on zero
So, these cretins are suddenly fine with separating a baby from its mother?
Does anyone really believe the usual suspects are suddenly interested in the welfare of an illegal's child? Recall those same fuckers never gave a shit about the 300,000 or so unaccompanied illegal children, including 2 year-olds, who were trafficked across the border and given to who knows who to do who knows what with while the Biden admin looked on uncaringly. Wonder how many of those kids are somewhere in a "sanctuary city" today pulling a train for a group of pedophiles.
One can't despise democrats enough. May be time to start the civil war.
Idk maybe this judge is doing his part to reveal what the insanity that is birthright citizenship brings.
rrsafety--nobody (as far as I can tell) is claiming that Mom wasn't properly deported. And nobody seems to dispute that the child is a US citizen (whether birthright of because Dad is a citizen isn't clear). It looks like the question of the appropriate treatment of the child wasn't addressed.
How much "light due process" is due? Trials? Appeals?
To me this looks more like a child custody issue. If Dad "should" have custody, presumably the US can ask Honduras to facilitate the return of its citizen. Maybe the child is also (by birth) a citizen of Honduras. Maybe the court will decide that it is in the best interest of the child to stay with the mother. As Breezy points out above, the child hasn't been "deported".
The father is also an illegal alien, and is going to be deported when found. As of now, he is avoiding ICE, and has appointed a non-relative guardian for the child to pursue his demands. I'm not sure what ICE is supposed to do when one custodial parent signs papers indicating the 2 year old should go with her back to Honduras, but the father, also subject to deportation, wants the child to somehow remain under sketchy circumstances. Most likely, this is the product of our foolish anchor-baby system, and an attempt for the family to remain. Since the baby is a citizen, the parents can always return her from Honduras to some custodian if that's what they really want...but it's not. They want to stay here.
Show me the Final Order of Deportation for the two-year old or it's just another international custody dispute that should be handled in the normal course of action.
Key question (as asked above): was the child deported?
Test question: is the child banned for a time from reentry to the US, as are other deported persons?
Test question: anytime a us citizen child leaves the US, is that a deportation?
Test question: Is the father legally (under US immigration law) prevented from going to Honduras, picking up the child, and bring him or her back to the US?
The ghost of Elian Gonzalez.
The child was sent with the mom. When did the Father attempt to stop his wife from being deported? Who did he file the appeal to?
Regardless, there is nothing unconstitutional about a mom refusing to be separated by her child. Based on the laws at the time, the child had the same rights of Elian Gonzalez, except this child can reenter the United States later, unless birthright citizenship is changed before then.
We should be deporting all the illegal anchor baby mothers/parents when they file for citizenship/birth certs. for their kids. Let them take their children back home.
I'm guessing the father doesn't have custody and probably shouldn't, but that's not narrative building so it gets omitted.
I'm curious what this guy thinks due process would be like for this 2year-old. Does he think the kid will say "sure take my mommy away"? Maybe we should let the kid's guardian speak for it. Oh good there's mom. Surprise! She wants her kid.
some clerk handed him a press release and he's off to the races,
The Trump administration is child trafficking.
They stole and lost babies the first Trump administration.
What is "due process" for deporting a US citizen from US?
kaKAW is dissembling.
the lameness is extraordinary, the chimps are on coffee break?
Cloward Piven is so fun because it works!
"Deport people but only after a light a due process. It isn’t hard."
No. What's hard is writing sentences in the English language. For you, anyway. Oh, and also, providing lawyers, judges, and courtrooms to hold hearings for nine billion people is kind of difficult, too.
You don't mention the citizenship of the father, probably because the lying liars who always lie at the NYT did not choose to dissemble on that particular topic.
Also, children grabbed for gender corruption, grooming, inculcation, rape and subsequent abortion of the "burden" of evidence in sanctuary jurisdictions, elective abortion/murder, parents incarcerated for protesting social progress, etc.
Instapundit links today to a report from an immigration review project at UCLA finding that the Biden Administration routinely deported kids “without due process.” Leftmediaswine failed to report on that.
Did you see that kid’s baby photos? MS-13 members are known to be bald-headed at birth. Deport his little diaper-ass to El Salvador!
Thanks, JCC for the back story.
Either the mom kidnapped her 2 year old or there’s no problem here.
De nada
https://x.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1916155082057417051 the rest of the story,
Unless there was a deportation order, I don't see how the court has jurisdiction.
At the cabin, the farm, the hospital most recently, etc.
Parents sometimes leave their U.S. citizen child with a legal guardian, usually a family member, when the parents are deported, but rarely when the child is this young. If the mother wants to take the child with her and the father wants to leave the child with a guardian, I think few judges would rule for separating the child from the mother (and the father). If the father wasn't deportable, it would be a custody case, and the mother might still win.
The failure to rip a child from its mother's arms.
Because fathers rightly have no rights in the view of Law Professor Althouse.
No American 2 year old was ever deported. Mother, or father, or both may have been. And chose to take the child with them.
The child can reenter the USA at any time.
It's so simple to understand that only TDS sufferers cannot understand it.
The mother was deported and it was her choice to take her child with her. The NYT brays a handmade tale to extort an emotional, perchance violent reaction.
BTW- other articles I've read indicate father is also an invader.
Deport the father too. That should solve the problem.
The child can re-enter the USA with her passport at any time, assuming she has one. There is a process to go through to get said passport and I highly doubt that it was done. And I note the statement was not “the father asserted, without evidence, that the child was a US citizen”
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