That sets up a dig at Kamala Harris: Without a teleprompter, she's lost. Kristi Noem, the moderator, adds edge: "Life is hard, but it's harder when you're stupid." (She doesn't take credit for the witticism, but she does misattribute it to John Wayne.) Trump's response is that he's not really running against Harris. He's "running against a very corrupt machine." He talks a little while, but takes no more questions.
"Let me hear that music, nice and loud!" he says, at 2:04:00, and he remains on the stage, listening to the music with the people until 2:42:20, when he walks down off the stage and into the audience. With "Memory" from "Cats," playing, he moves through the crowd shoulder to shoulder. This goes on for a full 5 minutes and more, until 2:47:22. He's there, giving time and presence to the people. It feels profound. As he imagined: "It will be beautiful."
Of course, if you don't like Trump, you can portray it as freakish and absurd.
At The Washington Post: "Trump sways and bops to music for 39 minutes in bizarre town hall episode/Vice President Kamala Harris has called Trump, 78, unstable and questioned his mental acuity."
As Trump stood onstage in his oversize suit and bright red tie, swaying back and forth, it was almost as if he were taking a trip back to decades past. Trump’s decision to cut short the question-and-answer portion of the town hall and instead have the crowd stay to listen to his favorite songs was a somewhat bizarre move, given that the election was only 22 days away. Vice President Kamala Harris has called Trump, 78, unstable and questioned his mental acuity. Some in the crowd began to leave. Some looked around, wondering whether he was done speaking for the night and how much longer the dance — or sway — session would last. Many stayed holding their cameras and watched as Trump took in the music, at times looking over at a screen beside him that showed videos of James Brown singing “It’s a Man’s Man’s Man’s World” and SinĂ©ad O’Connor performing “Nothing Compares 2 U.”...He spoke to attendees on his way out, as “Memory” from the musical “Cats” played in the background.
The top-rated comment over there: "Well, that just seems like a fun session at the memory care unit."
As Mr. Trump stood through the first few songs, basking in the admiration of his supporters, the crowd packed into the expo center largely stayed put, filming him on their phones and at points singing along.... ... Mr. Trump generally returns to his planned remarks after medical issues at other events. On Monday... Mr. Trump suggested taking another question or two.... but then said he’d play “Y.M.C.A.” and send the crowd home. But after “Y.M.C.A.” ended, Mr. Trump seemed a little perplexed. “There’s nobody leaving,” he said. “What’s going on?”... Still, as one song became two, then three, many of those in the back of the house began to filter out.... [O]ne of Mr. Trump’s aides, Justin Caporale, came on the stage with a sheet of paper. Mr. Trump briefly reviewed what had been handed to him, and the two chatted briefly. Then, seconds later, Mr. Trump decided he’d had his fill. He waved, pumped his fist, and finally made his way off the stage.
Off the stage... and that's where the NYT ends. There's nothing of the 5 minutes he spent in the crowd, which felt profound to me. I don't think Trump was "perplexed." When he said "There’s nobody leaving. What’s going on?," I think he meant: I can see that you love me. Implied: And I want to give back to you.
The former president, adamant about playing his music, stood on stage for nearly 45 minutes swaying to several songs on his playlist as the crowd sang and danced along. The crowd slowly dispersed, but many stayed for the entirety of the campaign event.... Following the concert, Trump made his way to the front row, signing red MAGA hats and 47 signs. Trump's movement was noteworthy as he hasn't interacted with a large crowd to that extent since his attempted assassination in Butler, Pennsylvania.
And, taking the cake for Trump hating, Salon: "'Trump appears lost': Alarm after Trump town hall abruptly turns into 'bizarre' musical event/For more than a half hour, the former president stood on stage listening to music instead of answering questions."
Steven Cheung, a spokesperson for Trump with a record of telling falsehoods to the press, tried to put a positive spin on a peculiar evening.
“Something very special is happening in Pennsylvania right now at the Trump townhall,” he wrote on X. Trump “is unlike any politician in history, and it’s great.”...
“The October surprise is that Trump has completely lost his marbles,” Anthony Scaramucci, the former president’s one-time White House communications director, posted on social media.
The Harris campaign likewise used the incident to argue that Trump, who would be the oldest president in history at the end of another term, is suffering the sort of decline that drove President Joe Biden out of the race.
“Trump appears lost, confused, and frozen on stage as multiple songs play for 30+ minutes and the crowd pours out of the venue early,” the Democratic campaign posted on X.
The Democratic candidate herself adopted a tone of trolling concern about the health and well-being of a man whose musical performances are punctured by racist lies and threats to deploy the military against “the enemy from within.”
“Hope he’s okay,” the vice president wrote on social media.
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... that speaking would be an implicit statement of not caring.
If Trump had continued to take questions this is exactly how it would have been spun. Obama made a comment in this vein in his recent sermon in Pittsburgh about Trump not *really* caring.
No matter what Trump does - it will be spun as racist or an actual crime.
Althouse vs. MSM: 1-0. Or should that be less than 0?
The Washington Post
The New York Times
ABC News
Salon
5th columnist propaganda entities and enemies of the People of the United States, among others.
Anyone who appreciates Ave Maria can't be all bad.
If a black person has a heart attack, and Trump is there to provide lifesaving CPR, the headlines would read: "Trump refuses to let minority die peacefully."
why was the event venue so hot?
So the Never-Trumpers' closing argument in this election is that Trump is too old and infirm, and we don't know his cholesterol levels? Talk about going out with a whimper, not a bang.
Everything Trump does has a negative slant because the leftmediaswine are all in against him. What they fail to understand is that it does matter if he doesn't answer questions because the questions about the odious, inept Harris have all been answered.
The venue staff are probably Democrats.
No one in that audience will forget that night. They will tell the story for years.
If a black person has a heart attack, and Trump is there to provide lifesaving CPR, the headlines would read: "Trump refuses to let minority die peacefully."
More like "Black man dies after Trump pounds his chest"
When I read the analysis of Our Fair Lady, I want to go vote for DJT right now. Early voting here in TX doesn't start until 10/21, I believe. Also, I predicted our hostess would not vote for President this time, but I hope she will surprise me and pull the lever for DJT. It will be my first DJT vote, and hopefully the same for our lovely hostess. Back to work I must go!
Salon? I think Pravda was less biased than they are...
No wonder they wont release this fellas medical records.Hes a goner!
Second indication today they believe they’re losing….
…and by not disclosing the reasons Trump paused the Q&A they’re manipulating the truth and exploiting someone’s medical emergency for political gain. Politics is ugly but not as ugly as the people doing it…
Democrats and MSM pounce!
I happened into the wife's Trump fix a few minutes before those emergencies. I thought Trump acted with complete R.E.S.P.E.C.T. to those fallen.
No wonder those shitheels you cited couldn't tell what was going down. Trump had one man killed and two seriously injured at the rally at which he was shot. Sobering to say the least. To call the scribes mediaswine is an affront to pigs.
Not sure if this is relevant, but Ave Maria was sung in tribute to Corey Comperatore at his recent Butler rally. Perhaps Trump is keeping Corey’s memory present.
If giving this post an enema, Dinky is where to stick the tube.
Yancey. My thoughts, too.
The first time I voted for DJT, I threw up a little bit in my mouth. The second time, after four years of him in office, I voted for him happily.
"Obama made a comment in this vein in his recent sermon in Pittsburgh about Trump not *really* caring."
They have been pushing this, but it just doesn't fly. It's just what the propaganda textbook tells them that they have to say in a situation like this.
It's amazing how little evidence you need to jump to another conclusion about Trump or his followers.
At this point, who is going to change their vote based on this bullshit propaganda? It's all about turnout, and overcoming the absentee voter fraud with "too big to rig."
Wisconsin seems to be the MOST corrupt of the swing states. After a lifetime of listening to Wisconsinites complain about FIBS (Fuckin' Illinois Bastards), Madison and Milwaukee Democrats have turned us into Illinois.
I think we will see the same thing as 2020 in a few weeks. Late night police escorted Milwaukee ballot dump with statistically impossible numbers from targeted precincts. We'll also see slow roll vote counting in Detroit, Philly, Atlanta, and Maricopa County.
Let Trump be Trump. Pay no attention to to the “nattering nabobs of negativism” and the anklebiters.
Judged heartless or labeled deplorable. Choices. #HateLovesAbortion
Harris going on FOX for interview,,trump ignoring questions dancing hs obese body to YMCA wtf ,THIS GUY OF HIS MEDS cognitive absurdity .the trumpers up in here love it..They'll get stung in the ass again with this perp..Don the Con reels em in...another 8 years of whining ,conspiracies and lies when this fella gets sent packing in 3 weeks..
Diversity and abortionists are a planned contention to a constitutional republic that is pro-Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness for the People and our Posterity.
Trump the DJ.
"why was the event venue so hot?"
At the University of Wisconsin, at least in the past, they had a system of pipes that were either hot water or cold water, and it was a big deal to switch from cooling to heating. You couldn't just turn on cooling. Once they went to heat, you got heat and heat only. Then it's a question of whether you could open the windows.
Anyway, based on what Trump was saying, it was cool outside, but they weren't allowed to open the doors/windows for security. Big crowd: it got hot. How hot was it? Hot enough that 2 people passed out, but they could have been people with medical problems or not enough water.
DINK rocks back and forth, one finger picking his nose, and one finger bashing the keyboard.
I think Hassayamper is right. Certainly it’s what Inga, Mutaman, or Freder would say.
Remember, just recently, Trump had an audience member killed as he was speaking. We don't know what it feels like, subjectively, to Trump to see someone in his audience who might be dying.
Thank you.
"Not sure if this is relevant, but Ave Maria was sung in tribute to Corey Comperatore at his recent Butler rally. Perhaps Trump is keeping Corey’s memory present."
Yes, he explicitly talked about that.
The propaganda that is pumped out by they liberal MSM and believed by half of America, starts with the liberal education establishment making Americans susceptible to this type of bullshit.
Basically the Education Establishment is a boner fluffer for MSM propaganda.
He’s most content when you lube dat tube.
Oh, teh Inanity!
"but they weren't allowed to open the doors/windows for security."
I'm not surprised security isn't willing to use common sense, but what are putative assassins going to do; bum rush the doors of a packed venue?
… so perhaps he's calculating that this is as good a statement as anything he might say and that speaking would be an implicit statement of not caring.
Or perhaps Trump is not “calculating” anything at all. Have you considered that perhaps he did it because it’s the decent thing to do, and he is, at heart, a decent person, Althouse? Have you perhaps hung around too many Democrats there in Madison?
So sad to be you, Dinky- having to run with Kamalamadingbat at the top of the ticket and Tampon Tim as the bottom. I guess you and your fellow travelers will latch onto anything you can at this point.
At 1:43:15: "We had Ave Maria the other day in Butler, Pennsylvania...."
And he talks about the opera singer he had there and how he asked him if he was as good as Pavarotti. Of course, he insisted that he was not.
Teh “Peak Dinky” is just after he takes his med cocktail and starts feeling as close as he ever got to feeling his oats. Scrotalicious!
Trump seems to be stealing the "Joy" theme.
“Band of Brokedicks”…
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DD45 is eagerly anticipating his/her heroine on Fox News. I am too.
How come Kamala never has medical emergencies at her rallies? Simplest explanation is the size difference between them; statistics. Or, those SEIU members they bus in are, on average, younger.
Thank heavens we corrected Noem’s misattribution of a quote. PHEW! That could have been bad. People might come to the wrong conclusions about the event.
I bet Kamala starts having medical emergencies too, now.
Looks like he got the A-Team body men from the SS this time. Watch their eyes when he goes into the crowd.
Salon states that Trump looks lost. Wow. Did they ever say Biden looks lost?
Well, it also all the cold hearts in the room, too.
"Salon states that Trump looks lost. Wow. Did they ever say Biden looks lost?"
They just assert this stuff without feeling any constraint to be honest. I recently watched 2 Trump rallies, beginning to end, because one of the fabulist commenters here was asserting that Trump was struggling. So, I checked it out for myself. Turns out to be utter bullshit, but they know their people will accept it as the truth and will pass it on.
I just saw the ABC video - Surprisingly, it was a very fair, straightforward, and - dare I say it - positive report (by Terry Moran of all people) with none of the snark embedded in the wapo/NYT reports.
No interest in how the media portrays trump, but am interested in how AA sees it.
I've given up trying to follow Dinky's posts. His attempted stream of consciousness writing shows only a trickle of angry confusion, and it's not worth the trouble to read it anymore.
I don't have a link handy but I remember reading she did a rally in Arizona quite recently at a venue that apparently wasn't much more than a pole barn that didn't have adequate cooling, either.
Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U asked...
"why was the event venue so hot?"
Because Trump made an appearance there. If it had been a puppet show with Spinal Tap, the audience would have been much smaller.
Seriously, who? Not any self-respecting Caltholic, or anyone with a brain.
He wouldn't unless it got him votes.
Well that's just stupid.
As long as he isn't President, I'm good with that.
Harris Supporters Pass Out and Throw Up at ‘Extremely Hot’ Rally Only the MSN story mentions the problems, all the other stories are about the size of the crowd or how Harris supporters braved the heat to attend.
And icky vicky shows up to prove the point.
It’s Icky Vickie… teh Little Moldy Lady from Pasadena!
Trump has spent the campaign homestretch spreading racist conspiracies, babbling about Elon Musk and circles, and silently swaying for a half-hour while music played.
Whether it’s Harris collecting vinyl or Trump playing songs at a rally to cover up the fact he was having a stroke, both candidates have taken an unusual approach to music.
Is Trump a senile dementia patient or a dangerous fascist? You can’t have it both ways, liberals.đŸ˜‰
Trump will forever be President of Your Brain, Icky Vickie!
He’ll be elected AND own your mind. I’m down with dat!
Have it your way AND hold teh pickle, Richie!
Imagine the headlines if Biden stood on stage for 39 straight minutes like a deer in the headlights.
This interview with the economic club of Chicago feels even more damaging to Trump. He’s being embarrassed on the economy and that’s supposedly his strong suit. He can’t answer one question.
Every second of the Chicago economic forum event is pure comedy gold
Micklethwait: If you add up all the promises you have made it would add $7.5 trillion to the debt.
Trump: Tariffs..
Micklethwait: That’s barely the cost of two of your promises
Trump: That’s like for what company you’re talking about.
Micklethwait: "Give me an example of something you will do that will get rid of government spending?"
Trump: "We should have a new Air Force One. When we see these planes from Saudi Arabia, from different countries, brand new...The United States should have the best plane."
His brain is completely out of commission.
Happening Now: Trump gives remarks at Economic Club in Chicago
https://www.youtube.com/live/yNFHrchXtsk?si=jpaGATMnExsZKqq-
Clips from this event should be prominent in ads and at Harris rallies over the next three weeks.
How did Chris LaCivita think this interview was a good idea? It's only highlighting Trumps cognitive decline and inability to tell the truth.
Trump is not well and in a fast cognitive decline.
Marty said…"I've given up trying to follow Dinky's posts. His attempted stream of consciousness writing shows only a trickle of angry confusion, and it's not worth the trouble to read it anymore."
He's one of the very few I simply don't read.
There's also gadfly.
And I'm adding Rich to the list. Why read someday who just makes shit up?
Is it a dude or a bitch?
It’s Rich
I'm amazed that none of our pseudo-journalists have attempted to locate heirs of Franz Schubert in the hopes of reporting the family's objection to the use of their great-great-great-great-great-grandfather's music at a Trump rally.
Meanwhile, of course, democrats are courting voters by mocking the holiest of Catholic rituals.
Bich doesn't make stuff up. He repeats what other people made up for him. He's neither original nor truthful.
Vicky is fine with the anonymous committee.
You mean at the debate ?
You've already shown yourself a liar.
Isn't that odd, I was reliably informed only this morning by another commentator on this blog that there was a bizarre, weird, deranged and worrying event that Trump was at that also went to music. His explanation wasn't nearly as, er, factually fortified as these stories seem to be - medical emergencies and such - but it was so different from this that I feel there must have been a second event where something similar happened. Because otherwise, that commenter would be completely unreliable and untrustworthy.
Given the emotional depth of the responses I'm seeing here from the usual Progressive Leftists, now I'm starting to wonder if this is the new Antifa-style strategy, fake medical emergencies to disrupt the Trump rally. Surely they wouldn't ever stoop that low, ha ha.
For me this musical interlude was quite a spiritual moment in the midst of a political campaign. He's not a vicious man at all.
Truthfully I can't imagine there are many people who have the stamina to keep traveling and speaking to large crowds of people, essentially saying the same things. I think he took the break at this rally to just "be" with his people in a moment of grace.
Trump's presentation to the Economic Club of Chicago is a tour de force.
Trump's presentation to the Economic Club of Chicago is a tour de force.
Well Trump did get a standing ovation coming into Economic Forum stage, and then again when Forum session ended, in Chicago of all places, that democratic Blue Wall stronghold, where Republicans normally hide their political feelings behind Obama 2008 stickers...
“Who the hell wants to hear questions?” Then 38 minutes of music. The Trump cult conversion is complete.
Soooooo bizarre to most other Americans.
No matter how much you hate the press...
One of the best parts, seeing Trump get angry and cross his arms over his chest like a 5 year old. The interviewer’s mistake was thinking he was interviewing an adult.
Why don't you want him to be president, Vicky?
I think it's the gummies.
He wouldn't unless it got him votes.
Pure projection from the harpy.
Imagine the headlines if Biden stood on stage for 39 straight minutes like a deer in the headlights.
There wouldn't be any headlines. We already know this.
I normally don't watch Trump, but someone else was watch. Trump did very well. The moderator was, of course, hostile. The moderator kept trying to have Trump answer the questions the way the moderator want, but Trump would address the questions to give a more meaningful answer. Trump showed he was in command and would be a good President again.
Only the Trump cult could have thought Trump conducted himself well in that interview. Crossed arms in front of his chest when he became angry because the interviewer was pressing him to answer the question after he time and again flew off the subject to his usual talking points not even related to the question. The biggest mistake the interviewer mad was treating him like an adult.
or Eau de Inanity
I have a question for the talking points commenters (you know, the ones who just regurgitate whatever words and links popped up in their morning email): Don't you think it is too obvious when the same small group of commenters simultaneously spew the same talking points at the same time?
I'm even not questioning the wisdom of the seemingly idiotic "Trump's got dementia" talking point--expressed with all the same keywords--that popped up like mushrooms after a rainstorm, because I assume it is being turfed so hard because it got a good response from some focus group or survey. I'm just wondering why you think it is a good idea to post these things simultaneously with the same basic wording. Or is that the point? Is the intention not to convince anyone, or even to be mildly annoying in a troll-like fashion, but instead to try to create some kind of rhetorical cocoon, so that you can sink into the warm oblivion of a hive mind in universal agreement?
I'm convinced they're on some kind of 'emailed talking points for Progressives' spam list for DNC donors, or maybe somebody like 'what's-her-name', Rachel Maddow has a section on her MSNBC page, maybe a drop-down menu item or something, listing her convictions by points.
I can't imagine being tuned in and turned into a spewing machine, like that. Maybe they think of themselves as one of a 'thousand points of light' - I wouldn't know. The wattage is too dim to notice.
Matt Taibbi and Walter Kirn regularly pull up portions of her monologue to see if they can predict the rhetorical twists and turns she takes, to start from rational discussion territory and gradually move over into Trump Derangement Land.
It's hysterical, in all senses of the word, to listen to them doing this on their show. But even then, I can't really stomach too much of her. She's like an even-worse version of Sean Hannity, who has the reverse-polarity Trump Derangement. She's worse though. She knows what she's doing.
P-Inga did not understand a single question or a single answer.
She's quite dense that way which is why she so frequently resorts to her "mindreading" schtick to pretend she understands what is happening behind the scenes!
"You don't know what Mueller knows!"
LOL
Every second of the Chicago economic forum event is pure comedy gold.
Does that include the standing ovation he received from those in attendance?
P-Imga really is running with the Trump Wont Take Questions ploy!
The worst part, as Althouse blog's Chief Lunatic Conspiracy Theorist And Pusher Of Debunked Hoaxes, we have to consider the real possibility that P-Inga, like the Soviet apparatchiks before her, really do internalize "as true", whatever comes out of The New Soviet Democratical Party Central Committee.
Thank you for correcting the record on the "Life is hard" quote.
"The Friends of Eddie Coyle" is great--both the book and the movie.
I've seen a lot of people attributing it to John Wayne, and thought that I might be losing my mind at an even faster rate than I suspect.
The largest ovation was when the moderator attempted to conflate legal and illegal immigration and Trump wouldn't let him get away with it.
Trump should have offered a breathalyzer, like Obama did during Obamamania.
Life is hard, can't buy happiness no matter what you do. Can't get to heaven on roller skates, can't take a taxi cab to Timbuktu.
"Eh..something something other than the posted topic" But yes, a few more attacks on his life might prove him half-true. Dinky kneels at his air mattress and prays.
I've seen commentary re Butler saying he shouldn't opt for open spaces.
DD, it is best to wait until after at least noon to be so totally shite-faced with booze and to stay away from commenting until the DTs have passed. I worry about your mental state.
No. Seriously, Vicky. What is your objection to him being president? State your reasons.
I hear rumors the air conditioner was not working: Only one story on ABC mentions ""a very warm"" Expo Center...
Were both medical emergencies fainting from the heat? Was the delay partly to see if they could fix the problem before he resumed? And when it could not, he stopped the meeting.
Years ago, in Pennsylvania, we had a town meeting about the local school, and the place was packed but so hot I had to leave. The local press later ridiculed it as attended by only a few, and that some left in the middle. So excuse me if I distrust the reporters.
It's a general rule that you don't say "hey, we've got a medical emergency here, so hold on"
1: you're drawing attention to teh person with the medical emergency, which isn't nice
2: Any panic that happens after that gets blamed on you.
Not a big fan of Trump's speaking style, but he did the right thing there IMHO
There must be some kind of satisfaction in being actively hated; else why keep returning? “For all to be accomplished, for me to feel less lonely, all that remained to hope was that on the day of my execution there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should greet me with howls of execration.” THE STRANGER, Albert Camus
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