So I'll choose one piece, on the chance that it might go a bit deeper. It's by Peter Baker in the NYT and the title suggests some sobriety and moderation: "Trump, Outrage and the Modern Era of Political Violence/The latest apparent assassination attempt against the former president indicates how much the American political landscape has been shaped by anger stirred by him and against him."
Excerpt:
At the heart of today’s eruption of political violence is Mr. Trump, a figure who seems to inspire people to make threats or take actions both for him and against him. He has long favored the language of violence in his political discourse, encouraging supporters to beat up hecklers, threatening to shoot looters and undocumented migrants, mocking a near-fatal attack on the husband of the Democratic House speaker and suggesting that a general he deemed disloyal be executed....
Mr. Trump’s critics have at times employed the language of violence as well, though not as extensively and repeatedly at the highest levels. The former president’s allies distributed a video compilation online of various Trump opponents saying they would like to punch him in the face or the like. Some of the more extreme voices on social media in the past day have mocked or minimized the close call at the Florida golf course. Mr. Trump’s allies often decry what they call Trump Derangement Syndrome, the notion that his critics despise him so much they have lost their minds.
Anger, of course, has long been the animating force of Mr. Trump’s time in politics — both the anger he stirs among supporters against his rivals and the anger that he generates among opponents who come to loathe him....
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1 – 200 of 253 Newer› Newest»The problem is brainwashing, and brainwashing takes repetition over a long period, and that happened only on the left, for the last 8 years. Russia, racist, selfish, etc.
Whatever Trump says is always novel - that's how it's amusing. The opposite of brainwashing.
It's a news silo problem - the left never hears from the right. The right typically listens to everybody as part of being amused by what the left just said, which is the clickbait used by the right to get viewers.
Although recently the right has gone to outrage clickbait (istapundit, legalinsurrection, etc), which will compound the problem.
Althouse has been going evenhanded by using a stupid woman's take on everything: nothing structural matters but there are feelings on both sides.
Three words: Orange Man Bad.
Only one side is suggesting the election of the other would be apocalyptic.
The opening paragraph is one lie after another: “Within days of former President Donald J. Trump vilifying immigrants on national television with false stories about Haitian migrants eating pet dogs and cats in an Ohio town, someone began threatening to blow up schools, City Hall and other public buildings, forcing evacuations and prompting a wave of fear.” By late last night, the purported bomb threats were revealed to be hoaxes of foreign origin.
How to read Trump. He has a sense of humor. Jokes have preferably at least three of the following: clever, naughty, bizarre, cruel, cute, and familiar situation. Trump mostly hits clever, cruel, and familiar, and the reason he does it is it's a joke. It's an apt characterization of a familiar situation, a Don Rickles sense of humor.
Russian agent is not an apt characterization so is pointless.
NYT: Latest apparent assassination attempt
These reprehensible assholes simply CANNOT help themselves.
There's a loaded SKS, sitting in a sniper nest, with a GoPro camera, backpack and tactical cover. Secret service report the gunman was pointing the weapon. They fired actual gunfire at the would-be assassin.
But the NYTimes will only admit this was an "apparent" attempt ... as if we're going to maybe find out later that no, it wasn't an assassination attempt after all and they want wiggle room.
And they wonder why they are so hated.
The thing about Trump is that he says so much, uses so many superlatives and hyperbole in his regular speech, that you either get to the point where you understand what's real and what's 'Trump being Trump' or you take it seriously. Some of us must have an innate ability to know what's serious and what's the entertainment or rant part of Trump's talk. The inability of our most nuanced people- the left- to recognize nuance when they see is, is almost legendary at this point.
But, Trump is up front and real. His thoughts are not thought, but spoken. As compared to, let's say a Hillary, who smiles at you while telling you that she'd just assume put you in jail for your thoughts. Or Kamala, who smiles at you while she's trying to grab onto a thought. Any thought.
Trump is hard. Kamala comes off as soft. And people like soft. It's cushy. It can bring joy. Not hard and real.
They're not even trying to pretend that "unity" is involved. One attempt, sure. Lone nuts, etc. Two demonstrates a level of neglect that is deliberate, if not actual malice.
Do you think the New York media would handle bullets flying the other way? I sure don't.
We still need to get to the bottom of how that guy knew Trump would be on the golf course instead of at church.
Narrator: It did not go a bit deeper.
Data point to account for the left's reaction to Trump: one third of any population has no sense of humor.
“Our violence is free speech; your speech is violence.”
Angrrrrr
“ Mr. Trump’s critics have at times employed the language of violence as well, though not as extensively and repeatedly at the highest levels.”
Liar.
I think there’s a unity argument to be made here: People on both sides are responsible for the over-the-top existential risk rhetoric.
However, because Trump has been targeted twice, Harris has to be the one to show leadership and make a heartfelt statement that would start to alleviate people’s fears about Trump. Of course, that would undo her campaign and that of every other Democrat, so she won’t.
This is the biggest pile of BS i've ever read. Starting with the idea that trump is the one who started all this with his rhetoric. First of all, since even before GB maybe as far back as Regan and possibly Nixon the left/ progressives/ democrats/ liberals (then again, I repeat myself) have been all in on republicans are horrible people, nazis, going to put you back in chains, racisists, blah blah blah blah blah... It's like they have no ideas to argue, they just want you dead.
I shall direct this asshole to any one of numerous montages on camera encouraging violence against Trump and or his supporters, including one consisting exclusively of media insisting we treat them as journalists…
Trump and Vance literally just shut down an entire town in the state Vance represents with bomb threats and death threats to employers over a hoax Vance made up.
The good thing is that the Trump campaign seems to now be upset about divisive and inciteful rhetoric so they will probably stop using it.
In both of these incidents, I thought we'd been told we don't know the reason why the perpetrator acted. That being the case, it's hard to see how the motive can be attributed to rap lyrics...oh wait...sorry I meant to write, Trump's rhetoric.
I doubt that the cat and dog thing is a hoax. Ohio Gov. last night announced that the bomb threats are all of foreign origin, i.e., likely another Deep State hoax.
Donald Trump has spoken about his fellow Americans as being “the enemy within”, he calls the media “the enemy of the people”, but no one is a worse enemy to Trump than Trump himself.
lefties here have been parroting the same lines.
to quote Igna, word for word: "the bitch was begging for it! walkin' 'round wearin' That!"
Baker is openly disingenuous. The Trump "examples" are all hyperlinked so the enraged NYT reader can click through and get jacked up on Trump hatred easily (and of course include jokes and comments taken out of context or like the Paul Pelosi incident a simple question, which Trump deserved to ask because he was being blamed for the attack at the time).
In contrast, starting from the dubious premise "Trump’s critics have at times employed the language of violence" [emphasis added] Baker softens the tone substantially, signaling he agrees with them (IMO). Notice they are simply "critics" while Trump is "a figure who ... has long favored the language of violence." This even though he did not advocate violence on Pelosi but condemned it. And of course the "at times" does yeoman's work in the clause, obfuscating the fact that Trump is subject to a continual onslaught of being called "a threat to the nation" and ""to our freedom" and to "our democracy" and of course the hyperbolic "threat to everything America stands for." In fact all of those were in one brief Tweet from Biden in June right after the first assassination attempt, egging on the next nutcase.
In the time it took me to write this comment, probably 100,000 leftists on Twitter have cheered on the violent attempts to end Trump's life or echoed the extreme rhetoric that I quoted above. Hell, "Democracy is on the ballot" is literally a Harris campaign slogan, one repeated by the gunman on his X account, and what is the literal meaning other than Trump is a threat.
The best part is that Trump was president for four years. So they say these vile, hateful, nut-prompting things without evidence (to coin a phrase) and in full realization that their words are inciting the exact violence they desire. Then they take to the air to say it's Trump's fault he is being shot at. I'm more disgusted by the Leftist Media than I've ever been. I expect this bullshit from politicians because they've always been vile creatures, but the DNC-Media now just echo the worst of the worst things the Swamp Creatures come up with.
how did Crook know THAT ONE Rally would NOT have 1st string SS?
how did Crook know THAT ONE Building would NOT be secure?
we're supposed to believe, that "it's ALL a coincidence"
If you are referring to "starting WW3" then your quip rings true, but then there's plenty of evidence Biden's "management" of the Ukraine-Russia conflict has inexorably pushed us closer to the brink step by step. I would argue ALL the evidence points that way, including most of Joe's rhetoric. OTOH where is the evidence that Trump would "end Democracy"?
"Hard times make hard men."
They've really taken that to the extreme now with "Our bullets are speech" and saying they are merely the response to Trump's speech.
"NOT repeatedly"? Really.
Trump does have to sleep but the media bashes him 24/7.
oh come on! it's Not as if;
a comedian was holding what appeared to be the severed head of President Donald Trump
it's Not as if:
Shakespeare in the Park knifed a Trump lookalike to death in the Forum
I'd show the "assassins wanted" sign from the nightly news, but apparently, it's been scrubbed"
Regarding brainwashing, note how many Democrats have repeated ad nauseum the "threat to our Democracy" line, which is echoed in Harris's campaign slogans. This saturation is intended to brainwash and further, to spur nutcases to contemplate the question posed so often my whole life (and used as the premise for so many dramas): If you had the opportunity to stop Hitler, would you?
We are now getting a steady stream of dark brandons answering that call in the affirmative.
The aesthetic fallacy: The crimes and rhetoric of the left have been downplayed since the French Revolution. The crimes and rhetoric of the right have been amplified with movies, operas, novels, crossword puzzles.....That guy who got shot and murdered at the Trump rally was a decent and worthwhile human being. He compares favorably with George Floyd, but anyone who makes such a comparison is a racist.
Whataboutism is baked into the public discourse.
The notion that Trump's speech is violent is akin to going to a stand-up comedy show and being upset the comedian had the gall to poke fun at people. On the contrary, progressives want you to know that they really hate Trump and his supporters and don't care at all what happens to them.
Dems and foreign agents hear Trump and want to call in bomb hoaxes to discredit him. Republicans and Conservatives hear Trump and want to vote the existing administration out of office. Notice a difference?
Referring to the "end democracy (sic) and our country as we know it" rhetoric of the leftists.
There is clearly a concerted effort from the Trump campaign and right-wing media to use these incidents to intimidate the Harris campaign and media to stop telling the truth about Trump or reporting his own hateful and divisive rhetoric.
The left thinks owning guns is violence, the right thinks assassins are violent.
This is emblematic of the whole argument:
"both the anger he stirs among supporters against his rivals and the anger that he generates among opponents who come to loathe him"
Nobody has any agency, except Trump. Anger is stirred or generated, random people come to loathe him. Everyone is a pawn to be moved around and then left in place until some outside force decides to move them again, or not.
The murderous crazies just need to be patient for a few more months. Atty Gen designate Keith Ellison will have Blormf dead by the Ides of March 2025.
If Lincoln hadn't insisted on saving the Union and Freeing the slaves, Booth would have never even thought about shooting him in the head.
Trump brilliantly realized: If he can get a large part of the left to hate him and his supporters, that will be a big advantage. For example, if he can get his most vocal critics so worked up that they will sound deranged. And if he can get his supporters to view him as a protector. So he's constantly pushing the left's buttons and saying things that he knows will set them off.
Trying to get people to hate your opponent isn't new. Trying to get people to despise their supporters is I think less common, but not new. (Obama did this but in a more subtle way; Hillary was famously clumsy and ineffective at it.) But I don't recall anyone intentionally garnering hatred like Trump does.
Whenever I hear people saying "It's Trump's fault that we hate him", I think "You really got played."
To be clear: If I enjoy setting someone off, and getting them to hate me, that does not justify their reciprocating with a murder attempt.
Jake Tapper and CNN are getting sued (again) for defamation. Sounds like enemy of.the people to me.
Rich- your new sockpuppet name is as obvious as it is dumb and banal.
First Republican president. First American presidential assassination. Not a coincidence. They violent Democrat Party was very bent over losing the Civil War and wanted revenge. Sounds familiar...
If JFK had just gone along with nuking the USSR during the Cuban Missile crisis, and then escalated the Viet Nam war in a timely fashion, the CIA wouldn't have had to shoot him in the head.
That is simply not true Howard. Both sides are using pretty apocalyptic language to describe what will happen if the other side is elected. It doesn't help convince anyone who is legitimately on the fence about who to support. It just fires up the base, who are already convinced that the other side is not just wrong but evil. It is a sickness in our politics.
IMO the Left is openly inciting hatred for Trump and has ever since Hillary's awkward "Love Trumps Hate" slogan appeared. They give permission to hate. They give reasons for the hatred. The DNC media endlessly repeats lies about Trump that they know are inciting hate. Coupled with professional production of assassination fantasies that have grown increasingly common since the second GWB term, and we all know what happens.
If that dress were only longer...
The real problem is were are a nation of mostly uninterested dumbshits. Easily brainwashed. Guy I work with has fighting four fighting age sons. He cops out and tosses around this moral equivalency bullshit between Harris and Trump. "I'm not voting" he says (another form of cruel neutrality I guess). I asked him, "why did Putin invade Ukraine"? He had no clue. 54 year old college educated guy, doesn't know how NATO started, it's expansion, or or why the Russians might see it as a threat.
Recall the Black Panthers with riot batons "guarding" the voting precinct? This is all part of the fundamental transformation you voted for.
Alinsky put it in writing.
I don't know exactly what Trump was thinking on J6 or the days leading up to it. Some of his supporters certainly thought that if the law is against them (a very dirty election might be certified) they have to do something about the law. Trump should have urged them all to stay away from DC. He could have said we need to elect better public officials. Eastman should have advised him to talk about a constitutional amendment. Surely states have too much power over national elections, and Congress will ratify the results depending on the partisan balance there.
Dems have been able to carry out a revolution by largely peaceful and non-violent means. People who take a shot at Trump know they have a chance to be heros.
Just who is it that is doing violence to the constitution?
I think the guys who tried to shoot Trump are his worst enemies. I’m worried that you’re a potential assassin or conspirator in the next attempt, Inga. You seem like a potential suspect.
Biden himself said he would beat the hell out of Trump.
It's hard not to hate the media more each day. How can these corrupt, immoral, wannabe advocates-not-journalists blame rhetoric -- and gallingly Trump's -- without accepting full responsibility for their own?
It's funny how an actual neo-not-see, one who appeared in videos made by the Azov Brigade in Ukraine, who are quite open about their, shall we call it, their 'political philosophy,' tried to assassinate Trump, and true to fascist propaganda dictates, it is the victim, Trump, who is called a fascist and a nazi.
https://x.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1835851350472827341
You're an imbecile, Lloyd. Aside from the idea of the "largely peaceful" assassination attempts your boys have been running, January 6th was instigated by Ray Epps and the other stooges at the FBI.
Hillary’s back out renewing the call for Trump’s assassination, and calling for censorship and imprisonment of those who defy her censorship.
Rich is repeating that same line Mutaman used, which demonstrates that he is talking to the Trump supporters as they exist in his head, and has no idea about the reality of the support for Trump.
Here is a hint, when Biden/Harris "fight inflation" by tryin to break the wage/price spiral by bringing in millions of workers to suppress wages, those other millions of workers whose wages are being suppressed, and who are forced to compete for housing with these immigrants, leading to higher rents, have a legitimate political beef.
Then again, so did the farmers under Stalin, yet instead of paying them a fair price for their farms, Stalin simply demonized them and used the angry mobs to take their farms. It's an old playbook Rich is using.
I saw a picture of a Haitian carrying a Canada goose, that he apparently killed in a park, home for dinner. It's funny how they simply change the story until they get one that is not supported, dogs, and put those words in the mouths of their opponents, because the simple truth doesn't really work for Harris all that well.
From the article:
"Mr. Trump’s allies often decry what they call Trump Derangement Syndrome, the fact that his critics despise him so much they have lost their minds."
Fixed. We see actual derangement every day, not just here, but on social media and in the news. Once in a while the TDSers will throw in a fact or two, Trump's hyperbole as it is, but mostly it's accusations of fascism or dictatorial control, presented without evidence.
The truth about Trump is that he is a direct threat to everything American stands for? A threat to the Constitution, and a threat to democracy?
What is the basis for this claim? He wants to change some of Biden's policies? He might appoint conservative Supreme Court princelings instead of liberal ones? He wants to verify votes, the same as Al Gore did?
"a figure who seems to inspire people to make threats or take actions both for him and against him."
They'll start the discussion anywhere except with the Clinton campaign and the DNC promoting Trump in the 2016 Republican primaries. If someone's angry about Trump, those are ones they should be angry at
The insanity of many on the Left is fueling this murderous horseshit. Wake up and smell the catfood, Leftwingers!
Know thyself.
@ Shouting Thomas, I suspected false flag, and usually we don't see any followup to the investigation of these events, so DeWine's investigation is a rare occurrence, especially if there's solid evidence to back it up.
You're just saying words now that have no relation to reality. Might be a TIA.
This is not unique. Nixon, Reagan and the Bushes were defamed and vilified by the leftwing media. They upped the game a bit with Trump.
Does anyone really think that once Trump is not on the scene that this will stop?
"Anger, of course, has long been the animating force of Mr. Trump’s time in politics"
"Of course" Mass invasion + expensive green transition + Ukraine war + unlimited abortion = joy. Opposing it = anger. Except that Trump doesn't ooze anger. He's mostly a happy warrior whose public appearances resemble standup. Deep-state collusion hoax, endless lawfare, MSM vilification, two murder attempts--I'd be a little angrier than he is.
Trump didn't "stir the anger". The anger was there already. Trump's victory in 2016 was a symptom of that anger. Hillary expected to win - Trump was her preferred opponent. The Democrats were outraged that he actually won, and began a long series of hoaxes, lawfare, voting system abuse, and finally attempted assassination to preserve "our democracy". That dastardly Trump refused to fold and is on the verge of the Presidency again. One wonders at what point, if indeed ever, the self-styled elite of our country will wake up and realize just what they have done.
Temujin Quote goes here:
"It is absolutely the height of obtuseness when your networks and press spend their days- for years now- creating this story that Trump represents evil, the end of women, the end of Black people, the end of trans and gay people, the end of Jews the end of the ability to kill babies, the end of, well...the planet, and of course, the end of Democracy- and then call it his fault when people try to take him out. "
That's 100% true. Dems have only 1 argument, that Trump will "end democracy and establish a dictatorship." Purely scaremongering. On the other hand, pointing out that the open borders preferred by Democrats will make our country unrecognizable is simply a fact. See Sweden, England, France, etc.
And yet, only one side's candidate has had blood drawn with a bullet.
Which should lead any level-headed person to then ask, 'but on which side do guns and gun culture figure more prominently in their collective makeup, and on which side does extra-legal violence often seem to be the way chosen to move political action on social issues; and it seems curiously well-financed and well-organized, when it does?'
These are basic, obvious questions to ask. Our media doesn't ask them. Nor do they deign to place public protest on a comparative scale, placing Pussy Marches and Supreme Court testimony protests alongside Trump inauguration violence and Rodney King and George Floyd and January 6th, to compare the societal impact in real terms: Lives lost, Jobs lost, businesses permanently closed, insurance claims paid, dollars in damage, economic impact, all parameters that are immediately comparable and commonly understood. But January 6th is the 'worst thing since the Civil War', you can bet - right?
Where are the media attempts to inform the 'fence-sitters'? Why aren't the fence-sitters making the minimal efforts to find out for themselves?
Does the elimination of Trump explain the increased focus on JD Vance by the Harris campaign?
The Trump campaign should insist on a debate between Kamala and JD Vance, just in case the Harris campaign is successful eliminating Trump before the election.
I hot linked it because it's pretty interesting. It doesn't prove anything, but this would be assassin traveled in some interesting circles, in addition to being interviewed by The Telegraph and the New York Times.
https://x.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1835851350472827341
Yes but this is a quantum surge
The only provable and significant election interference in 2016 came from Ukraine, and cost Trump his campaign manager, which is way more significant that 50k views on Facebook of a cartoon of Hillary wrestling with Jesus, or whatever it was.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/what-is-the-black-ledger.html
The above article was Ukrainian lies and made the front page of the New York Times.
You could say that it's 'ironic' that the real election meddling came from Ukraine, but that would only be true if it were all by chance, it's propaganda 101 to blame the other side for whatever you are doing, because every professional propagandist knows this: "The first lie wins."
Trump and Vance did no such thing. Vance was quoting people he talked to. Take your fairy tale somewhere else.
LOL - You really are a bad liar. The hoax was perpetrated by a Democrat. Another lying liar who lies - and a fraud.
If you really believe what is being said by the media, members of Congress, the President of the United States, and the Democratic Presidential nominee, that Donald Trump is a dictator who will destroy American democracy, Adolf Hitler reborn, then isn’t it your duty as an American citizen to shoot him? This rhetoric is purposely designed to activate potential assassins. Meanwhile his secret service protection is being cut back to make it easier. This will not be the last attempt.
It's amazing how the internet has been scrubbed of that "assassins wanted" chyron from that lefty show. Well, if you can't google it up, it never happened, right?
YOU Inga - lie. Daily. The other day you were insisting - without evidence or with fake evidence that the Trump shooter was a Trump supporter. You lie.
You go on an on about the Russian Collusion hoax.
You still use the Charlottesville quote out of context to aid your non-stop BS and lies. The Charlottesville quote is De-bunked by even Snopes.. Or the Bloodbath lie - where Trump was clearly talking about the American Auto industry and how it would suffer after the left allow Mexico and China to eat our lunch…
When we see your name here - we all think the same thing. Here comes the Blue Anon Lying Liar Who LIES. Inag.
(sigh) It's not even worth the effort anymore. One more time. Lloyd I don't know how you get your information. Trump is on record,(there's news video), of encouraging people not to go to the capital and if they did to be peaceful. Nancy Pelosi was in charge of the DC police, not Trump. Trump called her multiple times asking if she wanted national guard assistance. She refused every time.
Be better informed,Lloyd
FLASHBACK, 2021: DHS Secretary Mayorkas Brags About Rescinding "Too Many Trump Immigration Policies To List
ABCNews is also being sued for defamation. By Trump. Who is thusfar winning. Trial slated soon.
And let's remember that when Kamala Harris chose her first interview, it was with Jeremy Bash's wife. You remember Jeremy Bash. He's the CIA guy who signed along with 50 others the letter claiming that Hunter Biden's infamous laptop was "Russia disinformation" as a means of altering the outcome of the 2020 elections. His wife's name is Dana Bash.
She works at CNN. Enemy of the United States people.
Communists are ace at brainwashing.
Anyone who can look away from Trump knows the real threat to our country and its institutions. Since 2016--really since 2008--the Dems have been undermining historic norms in their attempts to obtain and hold power. Remember how Trump's nominations were slow-walked? Remember how the Tea Party was strangled by the IRS ahead of the 2012 elections? Remember how the FISA process was abused by the FBI to get access to the Trump campaign's communications? Remember how no one was held accountable for these things? Remember how the election rules were changed in numerous states in 2020 because of the Covid "emergency"?
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Amazing: "No results found for +"assassins wanted" +Trump" -Google
Not to worry though, they are not manipulating searches to help Harris and hurt Trump! Those of us who remember it all must adjust our memories to "it never happened."
George Floyd was a worthless human being and we are better off that he is dead. The police arrested for doing their duty in his case are political prisoners. I hope Trump frees them to go after Floyd's friends.
99.9% of Trump's insults are silly.
The collective left call Trump: Hitler, Literally Hitler, a dictator, a threat to democracy., and on and on... daily.
During his time as president - what did Trump do to earn those lies? A roaring economy.. low gas prices - no new wars...
A monyh or so ago, Bill Maher was being interviewed and mentioned several police officers being killed on Jan6. After being factually corrected, his reply was that it didn't matter if they were killed or not, it was still ...blah blah.
That is where we are at. Not simply the Inga's of the world, but a supposedly intelligent leftist with a popular current events TV show was still ignorant of that particular well known fact. well
And it's working, too.
It's also a happy coincidence that Ukraine was the million dollar piggy bank for the Biden family.
According to David Mamet every Jew fantasized about killing Hitler.
People who are the most angered by Trump never actually listen to Trump. They hear selected edits and characterizations of Trump's words.
The media takes no responsibility for working people into a frenzy about Trump.
Biden asked for Illegal border crossers to surge the border. We have the tape.
He asked for the illegals to come and to abuse the asylum system.
Name That Threat To Democracy.
Biden says - 'abuse our asylum laws and surge the border. ' That's who we are.
Biden is a crook and a threat to Democracy. But now we have Biden Robot replacement 2.0. The Robot who regurgitates the same answers.
"Some of the more extreme online voices"... Typical lib bullshit and pure fucking lies. Hillary twat Clinton said Trump needed to be eliminated on Sunday, just hours after the latest assassination attempt by a scumsucking Democrat Party member! Tell me the prominent Democrat Party politician that hasn't called for Trump's murder- Clinton, Biden, Obama, Harris, Waters, Schumer, Pelosi and more have all explicitly announced that Trump must be stopped. Motherfucking Democrat Party members are cheating, lying, violent, braindead lemmings that ought to be driven off a cliffs by the thousands, then skinned alive.
And, let's not forget the media encouraged frenzied left attacking peaceful, elderly TaxedEnoughAlready rally participants. As with Jan6, a few professional provocateurs incite some average normies and then slip away ..
Bob Boyd
People who are the most angered by Trump never actually listen to Trump. They hear selected edits and characterizations of Trump's words.
And, things said in humor, taken out of context, without hearing inflection or seeing gestures can seem to have entirely different meaning when seen on printed page.
Eat teh cat, Rich.
Can you provide a link to this assertion? Trump has spread all kinds of lies about the Clinton, including highlighting the fantasy that the Clintons have a murder squad working for them.
Motherfucking Democrat Party members are cheating, lying, violent, braindead lemmings that ought to be driven off a cliffs by the thousands, then skinned alive.
But of course, It is Inga, Howard and me who are making violent threats.
The "existential threat to democracy" line that Democrats keep pushing, doesn't cause assassination attempts. There are always deranged people who would take a shot to attain some notoriety.
By demonizing Trump as a threat to America, the Democrats have subtly influenced the Secret Service and other intelligence agencies. When Obama was president, they felt an almost sacred duty to keep our historic president safe from the KKK or whomever was supposed to object to his heritage. With Trump, they seem to just be going through the motions.
Dumb or liar? Trump, and all normies, consider the MSM/democrat party media to be an enemy of America. Trump doesn't, but I do consider all Party members enemy of all Americans.
was assassin really laying waiting and watching for 12+ hours? with pee-bottle; snack wrappers etc? and poked out gun only at Trump approach? or comfortably sitting in SUV with pinger to signal approach?
Don't forget Snoop Dogg, the Progressive it boy, had a rap video of him assassinating Trump. https://youtu.be/E4i3bAtEuJE
they say these vile, hateful, nut-prompting things without evidence
I would go further. They say these things despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Nicely ambiguous, Howard. Since Trump is referring to Kamala being the one who will start WW3.
Perhaps this new handle is just a sock-puppet for Mark the Weasel.
And Trump hasn't demonized Harris as a threat to the democracy. He has actually called Harris a communist.
Well put, Jamie. As the old Soviet saying goes, "We know they're lying. They know they're lying. They know that we know that they're lying. And they keep lying."
Not ignorant. Just doesn't care, exemplified by the attitude when corrected- shrug, and continuing using the lie. Like most democrat Party members, the only thing that matters to him is attacking, hurting, punishing republicans. Maher is one that should be made an example of when the time comes.
JFK is also an outlier for being the only non-Republican president who was the target of an assassin. Every other president who was shot by angry leftists/deranged nut was a Republican. NOT a coincidence. Only one side sees this as legitimate political activity. The same side that sympathized with Soviets and is now buddy-buddy with the CCP and views so many things (Global warming, racism, domestic right wingers) as "existential threats."
They don't just share a common ideology, they share a violent tendency towards inconvenient opponents of their Grand Schemes.
You're rhetoric endangers me and people like me, so I encourage violence against you and all democrat Party members. You are literally making me ask people to take you out, begging people to smash democrat Party members until the blood flows freely. Stop doing that, you piece of shit!
I was in the local bakery this morning and there was a pair of women on line ahead of me. They appeared to be in their late 60’s and they were openly discussing what should be done with Trump and his supporters after the left wins in November. A few years ago, a conversation like that would have been conducted in a private home, or in a hushed whisper, were it in public.
Now, these two were speaking openly of “what should be done” with half of the American population once their side “wins”.
I don’t see a way back from this, other than secession which lefty will never allow, the whole psycho ex-girlfriend “If I can’t have you, no one can.” bit.
The police your side Freder. Our side doesn't act on it, or reward those who act on violent impulses. Hillary hired that thug in Chicago who hard men rough up Trump rallygoers and the dude is still active in Dem politics. Remind me who said, "If they bring a knife we bring a gun."
What rhetoric I have used endangers you, or anyone, for that matter?
Harris is a communist as evidenced by her agenda, rooted in censorship, price controls, socialized industries like medicine and insurance, green new deal energy hoax, etc. There is no evidence that Trump is a threat to democracy. In fact, J6 proves he’s not, if you really think about it.
But, I do agree there is inflammatory rhetoric on both sides.
Remember when Trump posted Obama’s address and a January 6 rioter was arrested near Obama’s house with guns after trying to evade the Secret Service and gain entrance to the property?
I don’t seem to remember anyone calling that an attempted assassination.
Well, we know Michael Fitzgerald wants to drive us all off cliffs and then skin us alive.
It would be quaint to say that lying is wrong. But what Trump and Vance did here transcends mere prevarication.
No, Immigrants Aren’t Eating Your Pets. But Vance Says the Lie Was Worth It.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2024-09-16/no-immigrants-arent-eating-your-pets-but-vance-says-the-lie-was-worth-it
that is intriguing
"Congress Let Thieves Steal HOW MUCH in COVID Relief?
Remember that time Congress spent trillions of dollars we didn’t have to provide relief from the unnecessary and illegal lockdowns? And then actual Americans only received a pittance while the resulting inflation murdered our paychecks after we were mercifully allowed to eventually go back to work?"
Yeah - all erased. But the inflation lives on.
Everything the Democrats call for requires expanding the State.Always more, never less. With them it's always "everything within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State". The Left has yet to prove any of the allegations against Trump. Not even the so-called civil convictions that were tailor made to convict him. Change the Trump to Jo Smith and all else the same, there would be no conviction.
Maybe cats and dogs can explain why dumping 50,000 illegal alien Haitians on a town of 60,000 is a good idea. Also note, was the "right wing media" lamenting the would be Obama assassin failed? No. But do keep trying with your squirrels.
She's a cheerleader for assassins.
the Clinton campaign and the DNC promoting Trump in the 2016 Republican primaries ..
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so 'the pawn' made himself King? but was only allowed to move one square!
Many residents in the area have contradicted you lying media source.
I believe the locals, not you or the media that has been caught lying repeatedly.
You support a murderous regime that is jailing their political opponents, censoring us, and trying to murder Trump.
Mystery solved, it was' "snipers wanted," and it was aimed at Bush.
CBS and the producers of “The Late Late Show With Craig Kilborn” apologized Wednesday for putting the words “Snipers Wanted” under footage of George W. Bush’s acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention during a mock newscast portion of the program.
They are actually not that good at brainwashing. They are only really attracting people below 90 IQ.
Freder, KH is certainly a threat to democracy insofar as she supports suppression of her political opposition through censorship and targeted criminal prosecutions -- not to mention outright lying to the America people as her default mode of communication, as seen in the recent debate. What's more anti-democratic than that??
As for her communist beliefs, did you not hear her explain on camera about how the "goal" was getting everyone to the same place (in terms of wealth or station in life), and because not everyone is starting from the same place, some people need to be given more than others to get everybody to that same endpoint? She's talking about pure redistribution of wealth. Of course she's not going to CALL herself a communist, but the label fits. She wants to impose government control over the entire economy to achieve wealth equality, while suppressing dissent.
I doubt she'll start it but her incompetence could very well let it happen. Remind me, wasn't it she who went to Europe to warn Putin against invading Ukraine, which he did a few days later?
CNN is currently destroying the Harris campaign, the Left, and itself. So far they've had on:
Someone talking about how the Haitians in Springfield are good workers who actually show up for work; thereby implying that the American citizens of Springfield are a bunch of lazy bums.
An actual Haitian woman from Springfield that they goaded into calling Trump, Vance and the American citizens of Springfield a bunch of assholes.
A black pundit who said we need to get rid of AR-15's because that's twice now someone has tried to use one to kill Trump; even though the second attempt involved an SKS and not an AR-15.
It's fascinating, it's like watching a time lapse of a rock star drinking himself to death while saying; "Nah, mate! It'll be fine!"
Here's one, said on the day after the assassination attempt: https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1835861576760336893
Of course she didn't literally call for his assassination, but she knowingly uses the rhetoric that inspires the likes of Routh.
That really sums it up.
I've attached a link to a detailed post from Christopher Rufo, from a X post
https://x.com/realchrisrufo/status/1835354219454533862?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1835354219454533862%7Ctwgr%5Ec678659307a04bada48e5b72776fb214ec0cd5b5%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F672574%2F
Short summary. Yes at least one cat was eaten, and there's evidence.
CBS wrote a tendentious report attempting to fact check the story, but without bothering with things like on the ground reporting, interviews, and the Democratic mayor hadn't visited the place either.
As usual, the press lied and Trump told the truth.
civility bullshit is when you claim your opponent wants to execute babies, but it's only their rhetoric that inspires violence
What you mean"we", "Rich?"
“He [Trump] appears to believe that labelling his opponent a communist is something like a magic formula for winning an American election. “All we have to do is define our opponent as being a communist or a socialist or somebody that’s going to destroy our country,” he advised his followers at a rally in August.”
New Yorker
“She’s a Marxist. She’s a fascist,” the former president declared last week, weirdly combining labels that normally contradict each other.
Trump claimed, without a shred of evidence, that Vice President Harris, whom he has dubbed “Comrade Kamala,” “wants this country to go communist.”
LATimes
. "She is really a Marxist. Her father is a Marxist professor. … This country is not ready for a Marxist or a communist."
Trump made similar statements in other speeches. In La Crosse, Wisconsin, he said, "She is in fact a Marxist-slash-communist." In Michigan, he said Harris "is a Marxist, just like her father" and also called her a "fascist."
Ahead of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, Trump posted a fake image showing a red-clad female leader resembling Harris addressing a red-flag waving crowd while a communist hammer and sickle flag hung overhead. Weeks later, Elon Musk, the X owner and entrepreneur who backs Trump, posted another fake image of Harris wearing red communist military garb.”
Politifact
Repeating his contention that Mrs. Clinton wanted to abolish the right to bear arms, Mr. Trump warned at a rally here that it would be “a horrible day” if Mrs. Clinton were elected and got to appoint a tiebreaking Supreme Court justice.
“If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” Mr. Trump said, as the crowd began to boo. He quickly added: “Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”
NYT-August 9, 2016
Or read this https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/09/17/does-this-video-confirm-that-ohio-haitians-are-eating-the-cats-n2644777
and follow the link to X
I didn't need Trump to make me angry at "normal" or ordinary politicians, but is it really "anger"? It feels more like disgust. I might be angry if I expected more from them, but it's clear that they don't amount to much and don't have much to offer. Propagandists like to characterize opponents as blinded by anger or hate or fear, but a dislike for politicians and government can be wholly rationally and reasonable.
Is it possible that Trump's rhetoric is cathartic, that what he says ultimately pacifies listeners? Do people going to his rallies realize that much of what he says isn't to be taken literally? Maybe the other side's fear of Trump as a tyrant and autocrat, the new Hitler and a threat to the Constitution is taken seriously and literally and builds and builds without catharsis, to the point where some viewers and readers feel compelled to act out violently.
"Rich" or Lefty Mark doesn't matter. They are all reading the same script.
Who was it that coined the phrase 'truthiness'?
Because that never happened, Democrat. But Party members posted Justice Kav-brah's address online and a Party member showed up at his house with a gun- That actually did happen, you lying lowlife Democrat.
In this Brave New World, "Marxist" or "Communist" isn't the fighting word it once was. I wish Trump wouldn't use the word, but it seems to encourage grumbling and muttering more than anything else. In contrast, labelling Trump a fascist or a Nazi does trigger some people off in a major way.
“We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections,” Trump said toward the end of his speech, repeating his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen. “They’ll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American Dream.” Trump went on further to state: “the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within.”
WaPo
He is a "burden" h/t Obama.
Pantsuited Pantload
you wine swilling harridan
rug munching monster
I would add all the lefty liars we see here as co conspirators
Lefties do not consider Communism to be a threat to their democracy.
I would also like Trump to pardon them. I sent money to Stacey Koon's family while he was in prison for saving Rodney King's life.
Mr. Trump’s critics have at times employed the language of violence as well, though not as extensively and repeatedly at the highest levels.
Bull$hit. All credibility is lost with that lie.
Yes. Not a coincidence.
“Motherfucking Democrat Party members are cheating, lying, violent, braindead lemmings that ought to be driven off a cliffs by the thousands, then skinned alive.”
I don’t wish to quibble or spoil the party, but for maximum effect, shouldn’t it be “skinned alive, then driven off a cliffs by the thousands?
Trump is a threat to dictatorship, to Diversity (e.g. racism), to redistributive change (e.g. progressive prices), to climate stasis, to Green blight on green and blue fields, to ethnic Springs, to CAIR, to Levine's Dreams of Herr Mengele, to human rites (e.g. Planned Parenthood). He supports transgender spectrum marriages, but is opposed to pedophiles, sadomasochists, incestuous, transspecies, polygamists, necrophiliacs, and other queer sexual orientations in practice and in marriage legalized by Democrats, progressives, liberals, and others left of center.
If telling the truth and keeping promises is "setting someone off and getting them to hate me," you have a very weird point of view. Remember, Trump has been president.
Examine: Trump is a threat to democracy. Normies miss the context, in that what is meant is he is a threat to capital D Democracy, that is, where Democrats run everything.
Similar, when Que? Mala? made the outrageous, to normies, statement that Jan 6th was the worst thing since the Civil War. Crazy right but consider it from the Big D perspective. The Germans and Japanese weren't a threat to their power, WWII kind of cemented it a little longer than normal. The 9/11 tragedy actually let them lever us, incredibly, to giving up civil rights and importing more people that hate us. Check! Check! No problem.
Jan 6th however, was a symbol that regular people are getting wise to their venality and are contemplating doing something about it. The last time that happened was the Civil War where they lost everything.
Harris IS a commie, Fredo. She’s a Democrat like Daniel Ortega is a Democrat.
I watched that interview, rich… that’s not what Vance said.
Now eat teh cat.
Trump and Vance cannot call on Democrats to tone down the rhetoric when Trump and Vance’s rhetoric is and has been far worse. The comments in this comments section shows very clearly who are the violent ones. I can only imagine what will happen when Harris wins.
Michael Fitzgerald, you should switch to Decaf.
Shorter Peter Baker:
"If only Trump would die, there would be no violence directed at him."
Baker couldn't even let himself to not write "apparent assassination attempt". What kind of imbecile feels like he must write "apparent" there?
The actual tweet is longer. It is WELL worth the read.
It won't fit here...but here is a snippet...
JD Vance
@JDVance
Yesterday, Donald J. Trump nearly lost his life. An armed gunman waited for him in the bushes. He brought a go-pro camera to record it. A secret service agent spotted the barrel of a gun through a fence and shot at the gunman. The gunman fled. He was caught. And now we slowly learn about him and his motive.
How do you think the Democrats and their media allies would respond if a 19-time Republican donor tried to kill a Democratic official? It's a question that answers itself. For years, Kamala Harris's campaign surrogates have said things like "Trump has to be eliminated." And how have their media allies responded to the second assassination attempt on Donald Trump in as many months?
https://x.com/JDVance/status/1835823158957391923
Agree it will not be the last one.
[Reply to Michael K] I'm thinking of things like, as a recent example: "If I talk about Haitians eating pets, I bet I can make the MSM so furious at me that they'll spend the next week focussing on the immigration segment of the debate instead of, eg. the abortion segment."
I don't know, of course, if that really was his plan. But I think it was. And I'm pretty confident that he's intentionally done this sort of thing many times over the past 9 years.
That, of course,cannot be forgiven. All contrary to Obama's plan.
So, what ARE they covering up, THIS TIME??
"Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., chairman of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations (PSI) within the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee (HSGAC), said the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) was "almost derelict in its duty by resisting our requests for documents, evidence and information that are necessary to investigate."
The Democrat foreshadowed potential subpoenas being used in the future, telling reporters on Monday, "We may need to require more cooperation from them. And we have the power to do so through the compulsory process. In other words, the subpoena power.""
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-senate-democrat-angry-over-biden-harris-admin-stonewalling-after-trump-assassination-attempts
The same was true of Rush Limbaugh.
I've attached a link to a detailed post from Christopher Rufo, from a X post
Regardless of the accuracy of the video and the sincerity of the man who filmed it, there are two glaring issues that make whatever happened in Dayton irrelevant. First of all, it was in Dayton, not Springfield, two different cities about 25 miles apart. Secondly, the people accused of grilling the cat in Dayton were of Congolese, not Haitian, origin.
Freder is always so indignant. I wonder how he gets through the day?
I stopped at "apparent". Saw that during the apparent press briefing on NBC. Nothing apparent about a guy with a snipers nest, an AK47 and ceramic armor plates.
Comrade Inga to the rescue.
Off topic: Meanwhile, somehow hundreds of highly encrypted Hezbollah pagers have exploded simultaneously hopefully blowing off terrorist dicks. How could that happen?
How many times does "existential threat" have to be repeated before someone is successful. This is on the Democrats, their media and its teat-suckers
Colbert was the Party member who coined "truthiness"
Comrade Inga assumes Trump will be eliminated so the idiot she adores can be installed like Brandon was in 2020.
"...American political landscape has been shaped by anger stirred by [Trump] and against him."
Anger stirred (amongst political right) by Trump: "The mainstream media are not neutal but skewed very much left."
Anger stirred (amongst political left) by mainstream media: "Donald Trump is evil. He MUST be stopped BY ANY MEANS from elected public office."
Modal response amongst political right: "I wil watch for that, look for and be aware of possible bias in the media."
Modal response amongst political left: "A group is gathering to commit an act of terrorism*. A joined with them."
*Terrorism: Antisocial act, particularly characterized by randomness of victim; could range from obstructing traffic on public thoroughfare to bombing major venue.
It is hilarious to watch the lefty worms in this thread squirm around trying to deny reality.
Trump speaks the truth, and Party members only think it's hell.
“We cannot tell the American people that one candidate is a fascist.” ~ JD Vance
“Kamala Harris is the first major party nominee in American history who fundamentally rejects freedom and embraces Marxism, communism, and fascism.” ~ Donald Trump
Take more lithium, slave.
Eat teh cat!
Ohio state troopers visited every Springfield school building this morning to sweep for explosives and other threats—and they will stay through dismissal—in response to the wave of daily threats fueled by Trump's and Vance's racist attacks on the Haitian community.
Highway Patrol greets Springfield school families in new safety effort
https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/highway-patrol-greets-springfield-school-families-in-new-safety-effort/7PYQWUW47BCFNIWKHPXQIWB7NY/
Eat teh gato, rich.
"Mr. Trump’s critics have at times employed the language of violence as well, though not as extensively and repeatedly at the highest levels. " - now there is a bald-faced lie if ever there is one. As the X and Youtube videos demonstrate, Democrats at the highest levels (Biden, Obama, Clinton, Schumer, etc, etc) with faces twisted in hate, openly call for violence against Republicans and the murder of Donald Trump.
This failed assassin was arrested for an automatic weapon and charged with Possession of a WMD. But he didn't serve 20 years. Last report I read he served no time. So leftists SAY they dislike guns but they routinely let off criminals who break gun laws.. In their view gun laws are only for the suckers who obey laws.
Yancey said: It is hilarious to watch the lefty worms in this thread squirm around trying to deny reality.
One cannot deny reality if one is incapable of observing and understanding reality.
Brainwashed Dems do not deny reality. They are clueless as to what reality is.
They project cultism upon conservatives and libertarians, but anyone with half a brain knows who the cultists are.
It’s disturbing to see the “reality” Trumpublicans live in. They remind me of those Japanese fanatics still fighting WW2 years after the war was over.
Blah blah blah.!Hating Trump has become a religious cult reaction.
May I Propose DJT’s level of taking hatred makes no sense. None, unless you figure in his love for Jews and Israel.
The man is 100% guilty of being a Jew Lover. And that brings down on him barrages from unseen artillery from many unexpected places.
Schrödinger’s immigrant
Lazy collecting all the welfare
But also taking all the jobs….🤔
Batshit crazy folk having easy access to machine guns has been a MAGAt/ GOP mantra for a few decades. Don't hang this one on the folks that want unhinged psychopaths to be denied that right. The last assasin was one of yours and this last one was also one of your chickens coming home to roost. Own it, dipshits.
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