August 19, 2024

"'One of the things that’s really interesting with Hume’s Treatise is that he introduces the term "sympathy" to explain why we have esteem for the rich and the powerful'..."

"... says Neil Charles Saccamano, associate professor of English at Cornell University. 'Hume talks about how the notion of property enters into why we esteem them – that they own things like houses and gardens.' The beauty of those objects, Saccamano says, is designed to produce pleasure in the owner of the object. 'And we others, who do not own this property, and are not rich and powerful, and who are of a lower class, we simply "sympathise" with the pleasure we anticipate that the owner of the property will receive from the objects,' he says. So, when we watch Meryl Streep and Steve Martin making late-night chocolate croissants at her bakery in It’s Complicated, the sense of pleasure and anticipation we take from the scene is as much about 'sympathising' with the luxuriousness of it all: the softly lit kitchen, the pastry against the cool marble counter, the exquisite indulgence of owning a bakery at all, let alone breaking in after hours for a little erotically charged patisserie-making.... 'And in [Hume]’s analysis, part of the pleasure of the owner is knowing that others envy them – or sympathise with their pleasure,' says Saccamano...."

From "Lights, camera, comfy furnishings: why the ‘beige chic’ of Nancy Meyers is having a revival/In her hit romcoms, the director’s sets were as popular as the films. Now trending on social media more than a decade after her last movie, her coveted look is back" (The Guardian).

52 comments:

doctrev said...

Owning a small business is as middle class as it gets. Being able to cater to luxury markets is down to talent in the movies, instead of nepotism or luck. That's why people sympathize with such characters.

Conversely, the pandemic was the largest upwards transfer of wealth in human history. That's why a lot of people are really starting to hate oligarchs, for a variety of reasons.

tcrosse said...

The sympathy is in the sense of sympathetic resonance.

Shouting Thomas said...

Maybe there shouldn’t be English departments at colleges?

Ralph L said...

I believe the movie elided a few steps in the making of that pastry. Where's the butter?

mikee said...

Beige chic? Nah. Give me a return to the avocado green refrigerators and lemon yellow linoleum countertops of the 1970s. Shag carpet optional, but welcomed if available. And if a Hoover canister vacuum cleaner appears in any part of the set, even if just shoved in a closet with its snaking hose and metal tubed vacuum head folded awkwardly across the back wall, bonus points.

Wince said...

I call these lifestyle movies. The pleasure is not sympathy, but more like a sense of vicarious voyeurism..

mccullough said...

The Associate English professor just added envy to sympathy. He’s envious of Hume.

Aggie said...

I can only comment that this is about the dozenth time I haven't seen Meryl Streep's attraction as an actor, haven't been able to buy into the immersive character. She always seems quite obviously to be 'acting', which ruins the viewing experience.

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NorthOfTheOneOhOne aka Doug Emhoff's Pimp Hand said...

...Neil Charles Saccamano, associate professor of English at Cornell University.

His brother Bob is smarter.

rehajm said...

Croissant dough needs hours long cycles of work and rest, at least half a day’s worth. They cheated with the french travail montage because that would be one long date…

john mosby said...

“Beige….I think we should paint the ceiling beige….”

JSM

Aggie said...

There's a good reason that the Hallmark Channel is the one most frequently played for dementia patients.

MSOM said...

"...associate professor of English at Cornell University"

Correction: That's associate professor of Literatures in English at Cornell.

narciso said...

he knows nothing of Hume

Yancey Ward said...

LOL!

n.n said...

empathy (n.)

1908, modeled on German Einfühlung (from ein "in" + Fühlung "feeling"), which was coined 1858 by German philosopher Rudolf Lotze (1817-1881) as a translation of Greek empatheia "passion, state of emotion," from assimilated form of en "in" (see en- (2)) + pathos "feeling" (from PIE root *kwent(h)- "to suffer"). A term from a theory of art appreciation that maintains appreciation depends on the viewer's ability to project his personality into the viewed object.

- etymonline.com

Empathetic response with envious hope and change. A phobia and projection in some social contexts.

Wince said...

The English speaking internet has been effectively scrubbed of Streep’s funniest/best line in the move.

When talking to a doctor about the side effects of Alec Baldwin taking Flowmax she says, “I like lots of semen, always have.”

In German: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9puc6uB3kUA

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

To paraphrase Steely Dan, "the things the media think important I can't understand."

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

LOT'S of butter.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Is that a Seinfeld reference?

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

I've really only appreciated her in a handful of movies: Death Becomes Her, as Mrs. Fox's voice in The Fantastic Mr. Fox and as the New Yorker writer in The Orchid Thief.

Dixcus said...

It's not "sympathy." It's plain old envy ... one of the 7 original deadly sins.

Heartless Aztec said...
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Heartless Aztec said...

If I cared enough I'd describe Steve Martin's acting in that movie as cringe inducing and then cringed again - if that's even possible. Through the entire movie I kept rooting for the "jerk" to make an appearance and go head to head with Baldwin. What a pathetic character. What a pathetic reading of that character. Justified and wimpish. I wish I had been a black woman in that theater so I could talk back to the screened character and tell him to grow a pair.

Sydney said...

I thought she was good in The Devil Wears Prada.

John henry said...

Beat me to it

Rocco said...

narciso said...
he knows nothing of Hume.

Pretty good closer for the Reds back in the 80s. Later on, was their bullpen coach for a decade, too.

Ann Althouse said...

LOL

Jamie said...

For some years, I asked for a day to make croissants as a birthday gift from the kids - they never came through for me. Now I'm an empty nester who doesn't have a job for various reasons, could make croissants any time, but don't (because if I make them I will also eat them and the 50s have proven to be a running battle with carbs).

OTOH, years ago I found a cinnamon roll recipe in The Joy of Cooking that is a slightly time-compressed version of croissants and I make that for every family holiday morning, so the jones is sort of satisfied. And from COVID through the my youngest's move to college, I made sourdough English muffins or bagels for him every week, which was a lot of fun. Baking is fantastic - but I need to find a benefactor who will eat the work product!

Jamie said...

There's a scene in Prada where she communicates such disdain with one silent look - I hate the movie but loved her in it.

Jamie said...

JSM@1:03, well done, sir!

Jupiter said...

That would be one of the things that is really interesting to people who have never worked for a living.

Krumhorn said...

Her work in Murder In The Building was magnificent. Her performance of Look For The Light was peak television.

- Krumhorn

Fred Drinkwater said...

I have made croissant many times, both with the authentic french dough style, and an abbreviated style using lump butter.
But I never cheated by using a MACHINE. Feh.

Biff said...

1) From the article: "Some criticism may hold, of course. The worlds she creates are invariably white, privileged, wealthy."

Just imagine the criticisms that would be lodged if she had the temerity to create worlds that weren't white, privileged, wealthy!

2) "In her hit romcoms, the director’s sets were as popular as the films."

Is that really true, or is that just another example of the media making sh*t up?

3) Overall, the article reminds me of a formulaic college essay style I call "superficially penetrating." Find a mundane topic, and add depth by linking it to something that a prominent figure in the syllabus once said. Guaranteed "A" in an Ivy League modernity class. According to Wikipedia, the article's author graduated from Harvard with a degree in history and literature.

RCOCEAN II said...

David Hume never said that. That was Hume Cronyn. But they're often confused.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

I noticed I have a tendency to cede my right of way to new and expensive cars.

RCOCEAN II said...

Philosphers you can quote to impress your readers:
01) Kant
02) Aristotle
03) Socrates
04) Plato
05) Nietzsche (No he didn't play football)
06) Locke (politics)
07) Confusius (an international touch)
08) Hegel
09) Wittgenstein (for the sophisticates)
10) Descartes (for the Philsophy 101 types)

narciso said...

Lol

tim in vermont said...

the pandemic was just the crisis that could not be let to go to waste. And just remember, anybody who complains about this massive wealth transfer can only be motivated by "hate" and "racism."

It's kind of the same logic by which farmers in the Soviet Union who wanted to hold on to their land and sell their crops at a fair price were "hoarders" and "wreckers."

tim in vermont said...

Or maybe they should go back to their original mission, instead of their having been hijacked "ultra vires" to do stuff other than teach rhetoric and careful language.

tim in vermont said...

"Is that really true, or is that just another example of the media making sh*t up?"

Maybe it was written by AI.

tim in vermont said...

You don't get to write for big media outlets unless you suck up to the rich and powerful, so there may be a bit of selection bias going on here.

Deep State Reformer said...

This sounds like it was intended for affluent WP entertainment. Like Middlemarch or Wuthering Heights but updated and set to film. Ho hum. At least it's not Marvel or D.C. comic book level swill

john mosby said...

Jamie, thanks - I was hoping someone would remember the joke!

JSM

tim in vermont said...

"to explain why we have esteem for the rich and the powerful'..."

Who is this "we"? Oh, I get it, Democrats.

MayBee said...

I watched The Holiday recently with my mom, and every outfit and set design held up.

rhhardin said...

Kant was more interested in Hume's pointing out that just because bread nourished you one day there's no reason it would work a second day.

mezzrow said...

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant.

Rusty said...

Fu.ck croisants. You try and find a decent baguette lately. Not possible.

Rusty said...

Boethius