The article is "Doug Emhoff, Husband of Kamala Harris, Acknowledges Long-Ago Affair/The relationship with a teacher at his children’s elementary school occurred when he was married to his first wife, years before he met Ms. Harris."
Doug Emhoff, the husband of Vice President Kamala Harris, said on Saturday that he had an extramarital affair during his first marriage, years before he met Ms. Harris....
That last phrase is key. What he did has nothing to do with her and very little to do with the man he is now.
... with a teacher who worked at the elementary school his children attended in Culver City, Calif., approximately 15 years ago. At the time, Mr. Emhoff, an entertainment lawyer, was married to Kerstin Emhoff, a film producer, with whom he had two children....
First, one must think of the children. It's sad that they lost the mother-with-father home, but we don't know the details of the atmosphere within that home. Maybe it was a wreck in the intact form. We can't know. Second, there's something about a man switching from his high-powered-career wife — if that's what she was — and attaching to a woman in a more traditional, more feminine role — here, a woman who worked with young children.
“During my first marriage, Kerstin and I went through some tough times on account of my actions,” Mr. Emhoff said in the statement. “I took responsibility, and in the years since, we worked through things as a family and have come out stronger on the other side.”...
Well, good. I'm glad he didn't try to say what I was willing to imagine, that the marriage was already irreparably broken. He took the whole blame onto himself and, if what he says is true, worked to make amends. I hope that worked out for the 2 children by his marriage to Kerstin. I just checked his Wikipedia page, and it only lists 2 children. What happened to the other child? Did he "work through" his fatherhood with that child? Wait. I'm relying on extraneous information. This article hasn't yet mentioned that the other woman became pregnant.
In the years since their divorce, Mr. Emhoff and his ex-wife have frequently referred to each other as friends, and they have said they have worked to raise their children with Ms. Harris, whom they call a “co-parent.”...
It's good of Harris to handle this well... at least well enough to be able to present a happy enough face to the public. It's not easy to be a step-parent.
“Doug and I decided to end our marriage for a variety of reasons, many years ago,” Ms. Emhoff said [on Saturday]. “He is a great father to our kids, continues to be a great friend to me and I am really proud of the warm and supportive blended family Doug, Kamala and I have built together.”...
That's a very packaged statement, but it does show she's at least willing to help the campaign. She's not the most bitter ex-wife in the world, but she might be acting entirely out of hope and ambition for her children. I can't know. And I don't much care.
Okay. I've read it all. There was nothing about the impregnation. I must have seen that elsewhere. I said I was only going to read this article, but I've got to do this one shred of outside research. I'd seen headlines like this, in the NY Post: "Kamala Harris’ husband Doug Emhoff admits to cheating on first wife after bombshell report he impregnated nanny." I guess the NYT did not find that "fit to print." The NY Post says:
[The other woman], who taught at a private school attended by their two kids.... did not keep the baby, a close friend with direct knowledge of the affair and pregnancy told The Daily Mail. It’s unclear what, exactly, the friend meant....
Yeah, [the other woman] is entitled to her privacy. There are at least 3 ways that she might have failed to "keep the baby," and it's an inappropriate imposition on her to try to find out. Or do you want to know if Emhoff pressured her into getting an abortion? You're not going to find out, and I'm only going so far as to print that question because I'm sure it will be raised in the comments. I took out the woman's name.
My conclusion: None of this impinges on the question whether Kamala Harris should be elected President.
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What happened to "Morals of an Alley Cat"? Is Kamala going to apologize for her predecessor casting aspersions on marital matters of opposing candidates?
Yeah, I really can't be bothered with this and don't understand what makes it a "bombshell." I'm also over Harris's affair with Willie Brown except insofar as, having achieved a political position only through her romantic attachment to a powerful man (just like Hillary Clinton), which I do consider to be an affront to feminism, what did she do with it?
She’s going to be an amazing Democrat president.
For the next 8 years…
Yes, Harris is bad enough a candidate on her own that she doesn’t need to be burdened by Doug’s impregnating the nanny.
Before the story broke Kerstin Emhoff, the ex-wife, posted on X/ Twitter about Usha Vance, predicting she will soon be an ex-wife, too. I think that curiosity about a candidate’s family is normal and the spouse banging the babysitter during his first marriage is newsworthy when he acts as a surrogate for the candidate which he’s been doing.
Male and female genitals are mostly behind all the troubles of the world.
In the absence of interviews, policy statements, and the other paraphernalia associated with a genuine attempt to persuade the voting public on substantive grounds, we are left with a campaign based upon PR puffery.
In this new political environment of shiny falsity, it's important to puncture the facades. It's all they've got.
She married a man who had multiple baby-mommas. Maybe Harris is black after all!
It's a big nothing. The news media are getting it out of the way.
It shows that the man is a scuz... but so what? Back to smiley glitzy Kamala.
Arnold Schwartzenegger was the original nanny impregnator.
I get that the marriage may have been bad, but cheating with the person taking care of your kids is such a double betrayal. I get that it was long before he met Harris, but she still chose to marry this guy. I get that it doesn't affect policy positions, but it's hard to look at someone the same way after learning something gross about them. And I certainly think this should end any personal attacks on Trump.
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.
Men stray because they want sex more than their spouse has decided that she does.
As Dr Laura said to a caller who said that sex wasn't a priority to her anymore, "Is your marriage a priority?"
That's what I assume. IF the man is portrayed as the bad guy, look around.
Don’t tell mom the babysitter’s dead got remade as Don’t tell mom the babysitter’s knocked up.
The woman Doug Emhoff chose to have the affair with was not only a teacher at his children’s school but also worked as his daughter’s nanny at the time she became pregnant. That woman lost her job at the school, her nanny side job, and her pregnancy.
Dougie worked through his issues and his family came out stronger in the end. Amazing Emhoff’s statement does not mention the pregnancy. But then the NYTimes does not either.
So,"unburdened by what has been" is just code for abortion?
Men are dogs. With that, any complaints about Trump go out the window. At this point, what difference does it make, when Biden can shower with his young daughter, and nobody cares.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/stephenlaconte/celebrities-who-cheated-with-nanny
Why care about the morals of the spouse or family history of the present Democratic Party Candidate for President?
After Joe and Jill Biden, and Joe's son Hunter? After the Clintons, where Hillary ran the Bimbo Eruption Squad and actively destroyed the lives of multiple women with whom her husband cheated? After the Kennedy family history with women? I think 70 years of immoral behavior by Democrats is precedent enough to say, "No, this matters not a single bit."
Either Althouse is being purposefully obtuse or she is being purposefully obdurate. No, Althouse, at this point there is no rational excuse for invalidating a Democrat for where they or their spouses or family members stick their dicks. Too little asking, and way too late.
Doug Emhoff and Don Draper have pretty much the same MO so I'm going to give Mr. Emhoff the benefit of the doubt and presume he made good by handing over a big pile of cash, voluntarily, no strings attached.
It would be great to live in a world where such things are never held against a candidate. There have been a number of puff pieces about what a wonderful guy Doug is, just in case you don't find Kamala likeable. It may be relevant to find out if he is such a wonderful guy.
Jill Biden was the babysitter of Joe’s boys back in the day. She was married at the time, and they had an affair, so it’s all in the standard playbook.
We have much more important things to uncover about her. Don’t care about him unless he proves to be behind alot of her crappy ideas.
I tried looking for nude pics of Barbara Bush, and Google quite reasonably asked what was wrong with me.
Anyways, watching the deviant left try to smear Melania is mildly amusing, but that woman has made "haters gonna hate" into a font of strength. I'm sure she'd rather be herself than Jackie O.
Social progress. Forward! And don't forget to spay, neuter, and groom your little unburdens. Go Green! Sequester.
Rick Neilsen had the explanation way back in '77:
Have you seen her face
She's got a face that would stop a clock
And with that face I surely won't stop
To look her in the eyes
But her money's green
She's a tease like a social disease
But she's still so close to my reach
If I call, if I call at all
Any time at all [Repeat x 4]
So the story goes
I think I'll take her for a ride
With this moneybag by my side
A gigolo is the only way to go
And so I show my face
And I can even fake a smile
But I'm laughing inside all the while
This little girl
She's a joke [Repeat x 3]
Any time at all [Repeat x 4]
He's a whore, (I'd do anything for money)
He's a whore, (Look at the things that I write)
He's a whore, (Ooo, the stories I can tell)
He's a whore (In the morning, in the night)
I'm a whore (He'll do anything for money)
I'm a whore (Look at the clothes that he wears)
I'm a whore (He'll do anything for money
I'm a whore
And so the story goes
I think I'll take her for a ride
With this moneybag by my side
A gigolo is the only way to go.
All's fair in lust and abortion. As for Karma-la, take a knee, girls, and boys, you too can be VP as in the ancient days of democracy and progressive religious sects.
I am confused - is adultery now a permissible campaign issue?
Emhoff looks like the sort of mincing shitbird a woman like Kamala Harris would keep around.
I can’t imagine that anyone actually cares about this.
By itself, the Emhoff thing is no big deal, but there are several factors at work.
1) Harris, Emhoff and Trump have substantial marital faillures. The “alley cat” line of attack on Trump is neutralized.
2) Harris’ avoidance of the media on anything policy related leaves a vacuum in the media cycle. It is going to get filled with something. The Emhoff imbroglio has filled it and the growing conversation initiated by Trump that Harris isn’t a foundational Black American has also filled the vacuum.
Never feel sorry for a political candidate with a complicit press corps that can’t, through its own incompetence, control the political narrative
I saw it speculated on X that Emhoff might have forced the other woman to have an abortion, which I guess would be relevant, in a sideways fashion, to the campaign: how many of the (college-educated, affluent) women who will die, metaphorically, on the hill of unfettered abortion ask themselves how many of our million abortions a year are coerced?
In my world, I also ask how many of those million abortions a year could possibly result from rape (or incest, such a strange addition to the Catalog of Undeniably Necessary Abortions, since it would be rape unless we're talking consensual brother-sister incest) or contraception failure... versus just using abortion as birth control the way women in the USSR used to.
To me the interesting thing is that it took the UK press to break this story.
This is a case of DSP: Different Sexual Progression. Some persons do it under the desk, others over the desk, and others while the broodmare h/t some liberal publication - is away. #NoJudgment #NoLabels
Bad deeds by a spouse doesn't matter, so long as it's a Democrat. On the other hand, the Democrats (and its media) went all in during the 2000 presidential campaign, when they sprung the "October surprise" that in 1963 -- when the future first lady was 17 -- Laura Bush ran a stop sign and struck another vehicle. The driver of that other car, a 17-year-old named Michael Douglas, was killed. And the speculation that Melina Trump was an illegal alien was the rage by the MSM during the 2016 campaign. For example, "Gaps in Melania Trump’s immigration story raise questions" in Politico.
So, that is the character of her male patron who identifies as Jewish.
So, what did Karma-la do, or not do, that the Fourth Estate should deem it necessary to distract?
And the speculation that Melina Trump was an illegal alien was the rage by the MSM during the 2016 campaign. For example, "Gaps in Melania Trump’s immigration story raise questions" in Politico.
Not just an illegal alien; the left insinuated that she was a prostitute.
Harris' marriage to Emhoff seems to be political cover, a big firm white Jewish attorney marries a Jamaican-Irish-India Hindu woman who never married in her many years as arm-candy young woman to prominent Californian men who rewarded her with well-paid "do-little" corporate board and political patronage appointments. Senators require a spouse; VP and Pres candidates require a spouse. Emhoff is a presentable middle-aged professional man, fulfilling the spouse role.
That Emhoff cheating on his wife via his daughter's nanny and school-teacher, that's less excusable bad behavior for many college-educated wives than "just an affair", worse yet is "pregnant nanny" scenario. Puts him in "despicable" category of cheating husbands, and he probably had a hard time finding a serious relationship post-divorce until Harris arrived urgently needing a husband for political career purposes.
No wonder they're both adamantly pro-choice till date-of-birth.
cheating with the person taking care of your kids is such a double betrayal.
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why not since she was "in loco parentis" + droit + signeur?
I just want one set of rules. If Trump’s sex life is relevant then Kamala’s is. If Melania’s nude photo shoot (15 years prior to the 2016 election) was relevant then Emhoff’s infidelity is now.
Ann, he had sex and impregnated the NANNY!!! I thought sexual harassment was about the imbalance in the power dynamic. Or do we not care about Me, too anymore?
kamala needed to get married to have a political future and this is what was left.
sleeping with your babysitter (or nanny), means sleeping with your employee
apparently, Althouse thinks THAT IS JUST FINE.. Right Althouse?
I think the more significant moral and political story was the direct and purposeful humiliation of Mrs Willie Brown by Kamala on her way up as she and Willie paraded at public events
I really don't care if Emhoff boned every adult nanny in the neighborhood- but I am not the one who made, or am on the side of, the people who did make such things important in todays' elections. Goose, meet Gander.
The woman was a teacher at the school and being the Emhoff’s nanny / babysitter was a second job so it seems fair to assume she may have been struggling financially. Powerful rich older men have affairs yes, but when it’s with the family’s childcare employee it doesn’t seem like just another affair but more like taking advantage of the situation. I suppose we’ll hear next that the nanny threw herself at him. And that he was under a lot of stress at work.
As I wrote last night- were it learned that Melania Trump schtupping the gardeners at Maralago, it would be the lead story on every news channel for the next week at least. Gadfly, Bich, and Inga would be breathlessly posting news story after news story in these threads.
Like Ambrose above, I think the most significant aspect of this story is that it was broken by a British tabloid. Where were our so-called journalists? Chasing rumors regarding Trump and Vance, no doubt.
"I just want one set of rules."
Good luck on your quest.
OK, now imagine if this involved JD Vance or any other republican.
There wouldn't be any "privacy".
First Joe Biden and the babysitter and now Doug Emhoff and the babysitter........I'm seeing a trend developing.
That last phrase is key. What he did has nothing to do with her and very little to do with the man he is now.
Not sure it has little to do with the man he is now. This happened when he was in his mid-forties, not when he was a callow youth.
"Ann, he had sex and impregnated the NANNY!!! I thought sexual harassment was about the imbalance in the power dynamic."
It would make a big difference if the impregnated woman was working directly for the family inside their house, both because of sexual harassment within an employment setting but also because it's lowly to have sex with someone (just) because they are close at hand (unless they are close at hand because you married them).
The NYT article did not contain this information. Is it true that this nanny/employer relationship existed? It is right there in the NY Post headline, so the word "nanny" is in my post. I didn't really process that part of the story, because I wanted to restrict myself to the NYT article, but then I didn't... because I wanted to know where's that baby now and is DE still in a father role toward that person? Is KH a stepmother to that person? Why not?
Harris could end this story today if she would hold a press conference and open herself to unscripted media questions on her campaign and policy positions. She would get the Emhoff question once, and could easily side step it and make it go away if she had any political communications talent.
"Arnold Schwartzenegger was the original nanny impregnator."
Robin Williams was more original ... by 10 years.
I'm sure there are many others.
These are men who are taking advantage of proximity, sort of like a musician with groupies, but less of a selection. Just one person, already in the house.
That's like thinking you shouldn't eat dessert, then going ahead and eating the cookies on the plate next to your recliner. What a lame-ass person you are.
"That's like thinking you shouldn't eat dessert, then going ahead and eating the cookies on the plate next to your recliner. What a lame-ass person you are."
At least get out and about in the world and select a super-beautiful actress or "porn star" and do something to get her to choose to go to a private place with you.
Only reading the NYT is troublesome if you want to know the whole issue—the NYT leaves out key information as shown by foreign media and the NY Post.
I'm old enough to remember how the press went nuts over Sarah Palin's daughter's issues. Apparently it was germane to the campaign.
A distraction. Could that we all made it through life with no slip-ups or stupid actions. Ha!
What's important is that Harris is a solidly left wing idiot who will cause nothing but heartache and failure if elected. The only good thing one can say about her is that she has more mental capacity than Joe at the moment. Which, of course, is not saying much. If the Dems had one honest bone amongst them they would exercise the 25th Amendment option just to get a few operating brain cells in the presidential office.
"Only reading the NYT is troublesome if you want to know the whole issue—the NYT leaves out key information as shown by foreign media and the NY Post."
I agree. I was abstemious. I would only read the high-class press, the one with a rule against things not "fit to print." I didn't want to be sullied by what looked grungy from a distance. I was going to go in, read the Times, and get the hell out.
That had consequences.
But I did switch to the NY Post (which was drawing on the Daily Mail).
I avoided the Daily Mail... which I tend to do... mostly because it's alway reloading in tedious ways and serving up nasty gross ads.
As a person indifferent to pussy-grabbin’, porn-star-bangin’ shenanigans, I can’t imagine why I would care about this.
I'm surprised not to see this in any of the 60 comments posted so far, but:
I have specifically read on Twitter that some UK newspapers are saying that the child was not aborted, is a girl, and Emhoff is paying substantial child support. I don't know what the evidence for that is, but everyone here assuming an abortion is assuming way too much.
Scott Gustafson said...
I'm old enough to remember how the press went nuts over Sarah Palin's daughter's issues. Apparently it was germane to the campaign.
8/4/24, 10:12 AM
^^^^^^THIS****
The left always does nasty shit, and then cry when it is turned around on them. ALWAYS.
Next NYTimes story- Douglas Emhoff wasn't the one paying the nanny- it was the wife so that the nanny wasn't employed by the husband.
Just remembered: when they interviewed the former nanny, she was in the Hamptons. Was she in fact wealthy and just nannying for fun? Is the child support really huge? Has she since found someone else to support her? Or is she still a nanny for rich people? Not that any of that's our business, except possibly the child support.
Ann, I dont care. But I can make a judgement. I'll start with birds of a feather...
No. I just want to know if it’s a crime that Kamala is campaigning in NY without disclosing the fact he got the nanny pregnant and then had her sign an NDA. Is there hush money involved? That’s a campaign violation according to the rules imposed on Trump. The media should be at least curious about the terms of the hush money arrangement. I think any attorney client privileges should be pierced if not voluntarily waived so we can get the lawyers who arranged the hush money under oath and, you know, see if Harris and Emhoff are hiding any other facts salient to the race at hand.
It's a weapon.
Republicans don't use free weapons. Democrats do.
It's a knife fight. Use what you have.
Kamala was sleeping with Willie when he was a married man.
But Trump!
Exactly. Everyone talks about Trump's infidelity, so talk about Kamala's as well.
“I would only read the high-class press, the one with a rule against things not "fit to print." I didn't want to be sullied by what looked grungy from a distance.”
I understand..:it’s a morass….:by the classification of the NYT as high-class is the thinnest of veneer.
Just remembered: when they interviewed the former nanny, she was in the Hamptons. Was she in fact wealthy and just nannying for fun? Is the child support really huge? Has she since found someone else to support her? Or is she still a nanny for rich people? Not that any of that's our business, except possibly the child support.
Her main job was as a schoolteacher at the private school the Emhoff children attended, a job she lost when the relationship with Emhoff became known. Reporting is that there is an NDA so who knows but I would imagine the compensation includes a lot more than just child support.
How old was the nanny?
Was she underage?
It's the Toxic Masculinity thing. Last year there was a whole thing about Doug speaking out against it. There was even a WaPo editorial claiming he was the antidote to Toxic Masculinity.
Once again with the Jill Biden was Joe’s kids nanny bullshit. Stop it. Joe met Jill after his wife died and Jill divorced her prior husband two years before meeting Joe. Jill was NOT THE FUCKING NANNY. I despise Joe Biden but spreading bullshit does no one any good.
The relevance is in regard to Trump. The fact that Kamala accepted Emhoff as her husband despite his having impregnated his child's caretaker ostensibly shows that, in her mind, men can overcome these kinds of failings and still be perfectly good human beings. Doesn't that kind of neutralize the argument that Trump's past infidelities demonstrate that he's morally unfit to serve as president?
Of course, some would argue that it's not apples to apples because Emhoff, unlike Trump, isn't running for president -- but that largely ignores the extent to which, these days, presidential candidates and their spouses tend to be marketed as a package. (Ironically (?), Donald and Melania stand as sort of an exception to this rule.)
Of course, another interpretation of the revelation about Emhoff is that Kamala's marriage to him, like her "affair" with Willie Brown, was just something she did to advance her career. IOW, forget the morality of what he did, isn't this another manifestation of her essential phoniness?
“we worked through things as a family and have come out stronger on the other side.”...
Does anyone believe this BS?
Every time I read psycho-babble like this I want to puke. It’s just an exercise in trying to justify to oneself that you’re really, really a good person. Where is the remorse?
>Former Illinois resident said...
(Harris) never married in her many years as arm-candy young woman to prominent Californian men who rewarded her with well-paid "do-little" corporate board and political patronage appointments.<
Can you tell us who these particular "prominent Californian men" were? Not Willie Brown - we all know about that but that is just a man. I'm interested in these men you speak of.
I ask, because I lived in SF for most of Kamala's political career era, read the papers, watched the local news, and I never heard about anyone other than Willie. Doubt that you did either and I think your statement is just part of the Harris "sleeping her way to the top" legend that, you know, requires that there be multiple men. But I'm willing to be edified. Cites and stuff would be good. (I loathe Harris, btw.)
I think Lawnerd has spread some BS. I read an interview with Jill’s first husband who ran the local tavern and supported Joe’s campaign for some lower office. He had purchased the’68 Corvette for Jill and was shocked one day to see Biden cruising by at the wheel. When he confronted Jill she admitted an affair and then they divorced shortly afterwards.
Don’t know if she was ever the babysitter but I know Joe has peddled a phony origin story for the green Vette and is sleazy enough to bang the babysitter.
“ Of course, some would argue that it's not apples to apples because Emhoff, unlike Trump, isn't running for president -- but that largely ignores the extent to which, these days, presidential candidates and their spouses tend to be marketed as a package. (Ironically (?), Donald and Melania stand as sort of an exception to this rule.)”
Good point, so how did we vet current shadow president Jill Biden?
Hardin said, "Male and female genitals are mostly behind all the troubles of the world."
Males and females THINKING WITH THEIR genitals are mostly behind all the troubles of the world.
Fixed it for you.
Can’t wait to hear Alvin Bragg asked about the hush money and whether he’s investigating Kamala for concealing information from the voters in NY.
On the one hand I don't really care about this. It won't change my vote, nor will it change votes of people firmly on the other side. On the other hand, there's a reason the media have been running puff pieces on Emhoff. They think it will help Harris. So if puff pieces are believed to help her, then it's reasonable to think this kind of dirt will hurt.
Since the ex-nanny now has a house in The Hamptons, we can presume the settlement was generous.
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
Can’t wait to hear Alvin Bragg asked about the hush money and whether he’s investigating Kamala for concealing information from the voters in NY.
LOL. Bragg has probably launched a criminal investigation of those proving information critical of Emhoff, particularly if there is a criminal violation of the NDA
“My conclusion: None of this impinges on the question whether Kamala Harris should be elected President.”
That sounds reasonable.
It will only be an issue to me, so long as Democrats continue to use hearsay to accuse Trump of infidelity in his marriage. At least Bill Maher recognizes that Daniels has routinely changed her story of events, and her claim and a picture taken of her with Trump in another location are the only evidence of activity between them. Democrats point to Cohen's actions as additional evidence, but that is not evidence of sexual activity. Same goes for E. Jean Carroll, the only evidence is hearsay and an unrelated photo.
“She married a man who had multiple baby-mommas. Maybe Harris is black after all!”
At least she didn’t marry Trump who has 5 children from three different women. And he’s White!
Living in LA, i've known about this affair since he became a public figure. When it involves a fancy school word spreads. Surprised it took this long to be written about. But still different versions about how the pregnancy ended up.
Birds of a feather flock together. Kamala had an affair with a married man. Her husband had an affair while married to his first wife. I suppose the answer is so what. Other than having to endure a bunch of hypocritical comments from both political parties.
"What he did has nothing to do with her"
Really? Marrying a man of low character has nothing to do with her? Let's say Melania had been the candidate; Trump's affairs would not have been used to judge and demean her?
And the BS being shoveled accentuates the low character. These weren't just "tough times," and the woman involved was not just a "teacher," and they aren't coming clean about the other child, etc. etc.
At least she didn’t marry Trump who has 5 children from three different women. And he’s White!
Trump was already married so wouldn’t have been available. Kamala could have applied to be his mistress I suppose. She has experience so would be qualified for the position.
Really don’t care much about this personally. Kamala can live with whoever she wants, whatever. But I agree one set of rules would be nice. And I also agree nature abhors a vacuum, so without any new conferences/questioning of Kamala, this stuff is inevitable (if Kamala doesn’t want to see it she knows how to end it).
The NDA angle is pretty schadenfreude-full though. Normally I wouldn’t care about NDAs either, and didn’t and still don’t give a shit about Trump’s NDA or the BS lawfare trial over it.
And I’ll admit to having a mild curiousity about the possible abortion angle (or pressure to abort). Not because any lefties will care ( they, including Kamala, seem to be ok with abortion any time anywhere for any reason), but because of the power imbalance/feminism hypocrisy at play. Rich guy stoops the nanny, knocks her up, pressures her to have an abortion and pays her off (with an NDA of course) to “go away” so he can return to hi “happy family”. Never seen that before huh?
I will quibble with one thing Michael K said though. If the nanny/side-piece/baby momma now lives in the Hamptons I’m not sure it implies the settlement/child support was substantial. It might indicate that, of course. But I suspect it’s as likely or more likely that she just had a pattern of getting close to (on the radar screens of) and garnering the attention of rich and powerful men. It’s a type. Maybe she finally landed one…
""Arnold Schwartzenegger was the original nanny impregnator."
Robin Williams was more original ... by 10 years.
I'm sure there are many others."
Try Karl Marx.
Modeling shared male ownership of the means of reproduction.
Curious as to how nanny managed to become pregnant. Was she not on birth control, and did he not use a condom? That would indicate an impromptu sort of event. And, was the affair an ongoing situation or a one time wham-bam-thank -you-mam? Did the nanny think her boss would leave his wife for her, as did Monica?
Trumps alleged sex with Stormy is said to have happened one time, but is always referred to as an affair.
Sometimes an affair is less sex related, and more ego related. Easy to imagine years married man or woman feeling taken for granted and being flattered by attention and/or admiration from another.
At least she didn’t marry Trump who has 5 children from three different women. And he’s White!
Hey, here's an idea, let's compare each of the candidates children and step-children. See which parents had the best influence on off-spring.
A. This story came out over the weekend.
B. That means it was leaked by Dems and not the GOP.
C. This is a controlled leak to see how big of a deal it will be.
D. We are all playing along just like we are supposed to.
Infidelity should be judged in different degrees. Cheating with the nanny is a first class offense. That's up there with cheating with your wife's younger sister. Cheating with a porn star is in most states regarded as a misdemeanor offense....In the annals of infidelity, I think FDR deserves special mention. He suborned his daughter to arrange his affair. The sainted Eleanor felt betrayed not just by her husband but also by her daughter. That's aggravated infidelity....I'd give this much credit to JFK, Bill Clinton, and Trump. They were horn dogs, but their goals were straight forward and not complicated by any aggravating factors. They didn't want to hurt their wives. They just wanted sex. These were, for the most part, misdemeanor infidelities.....There was something calculating about Kamala's affairs. She was more in pursuit of her career than of pleasure. She was unfaithful to her libido. She could have done the dirty with younger, studlier men than Brown. There was thus something premeditated and disreputable about her offense. I'd judge her offense more harshly than that of Trump.
Doug supports Abortion because he doesn’t want to wear a condom and didn’t want a vasectomy.
Typical selfish LA asshole. No wonder his kids are fucked up.
Yes, lets not get into what kind of person Emhoff is. Who cares if he impregnated the nanny and pressured her to get rid of the baby. Lets let everyone keep their privacy. Who cares if he will be the "First Gentleman" and presumably is talking to "Kam" about public policy every night. Moveon.org
But for some reason Trump doesn't deserve privacy. His sex life and relationship with Melania is fair game for public scrutiny and non-stop mockery and lawfare, but lets not put that same microscope on a Democrat! Who cares about their sex life. its none of our business. LOL
Will Republicans pounce? Mabye. Democrats don't have to pounce because the MSM pounces for them. WHats so puzzling about American voters is this: The democrats don't care what their pols do. Corruption, sex crimes, scandals, they don't give a fuck. They just vote (D) no matter what. The Republicans are becoming the same way, because they aren't gullible rubes. Why uphold standards when the D's wont.
But then there's some mysterious bloc out of Independent voters out there who do care. Or maybe they dont exist. If they do exist,are they only upset at Republican scandals and sketchy sex lives but OK with the Democrats doing the same thing? I dunno.
“She has experience so would be qualified for the position.”
Harris’ relationship with Willie Brown happened after he had already been separated from his wife for over ten years. Doesn’t there need to be a current wife for Harris to be the mistress?
As a result of this story being revealed I discovered that Doug Emhoff’s first wife, Kersten, isn’t Jewish either. So their children are not Jewish, along with not being raised Jewish. Being Jewish was never important to him.
So I’m somewhat confused about why so much effort was made to tell the public that he is Jewish. Was that all some kind of a preemptive cover for him because Jewish men are allegedly more moral? Or a distraction for Kamala being Anti- Israel?
Because nobody really cares about his infidelity.
I do not care about this. To me, it's totally irrelevant to the campaign.
Why did Obama leak this story?
"Harris’ relationship with Willie Brown happened after he had already been separated from his wife for over ten years. "
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Needed SOME time apart..
I thought it was a good apology.
What do women think of the story? I understand, from my wife, that women really don't like nannies sleeping with the husband.
Why did Obama leak this story?
I'm reading that this has been well known in certain circles for awhile now but because Kamala is a Democrat and this happened before she (supposedly) knew him, it was ignored. Now she's going to be the Presidential candidate and he's been featured as a spokesman on various issues, toxic masculinity, abortion rights, etc., The Democrats figured it would get out and better now, before the convention, then closer to election day.
Of course we only have Emhoff's side of the story, totally voluntary "affair", caused pain in his family, no expression of sympathy for the woman herself. We probably won't hear from her if there's an NDA.
Harris’ relationship with Willie Brown happened after he had already been separated from his wife for over ten years. Doesn’t there need to be a current wife for Harris to be the mistress?
Well, she sure wasn't a wife. Willie, the most skilled politician in CA, appointed her to a number of token jobs and supported her for DA. After that she showed little loyalty.
"Surprised it took this long to be written about. But still different versions about how the pregnancy ended up."
Are you also surprised to find the Sun rising in the morning, Readering?
I am surprised it was written about at all, but then it did take the British press to do so.
"Curious as to how nanny managed to become pregnant. Was she not on birth control, and did he not use a condom? That would indicate an impromptu sort of event. And, was the affair an ongoing situation or a one time wham-bam-thank -you-mam? Did the nanny think her boss would leave his wife for her, as did Monica?"
Expect it was an affair, and there was an "accident".
From the Daily Mail, she didn't keep the child, but there were videos of a mystery child, which would have been the right age, so maybe put her up for adoption. If true, good.
Who cares? OTOH, after the way lefties have treated Trump and family any embarrassment of them is well deserved.
Now, back to Willie's Willy.
I think we can all agree our amoral degenerates are harmless and their amoral degenerates are harmful.
Inga is correct. Scratch "homewrecker" off the list.
Harris’ relationship with Willie Brown happened after he had already been separated from his wife for over ten years
"Brown addressed accusations of favoritism in the San Francisco Chronicle on Jan. 26, 2019:
Yes, we dated. It was more than 20 years ago. Yes, I may have influenced her career by appointing her to two state commissions when I was Assembly speaker.
And I certainly helped with her first race for district attorney in San Francisco. I have also helped the careers of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Gov. Gavin Newsom, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and a host of other politicians."
It becomes relevant whenever they want to call Trump a felon.
They also paid her to go away.
And "Biden-Harris try to put Trump in jail for something Harris also did" plays well with the story about how she was smoking pot while putting Californians in jail for possession.
"Morals of an alley cat" only applies when we are discussing an (R). For those with a (D) it was a "mistake", "in the past", and "has no effect on current issues".
Joe Biden had an affair with Jill when she was still married. That's quite okay.
Kamala Harris slept her way to political positions with married man Willie Brown. Also okay. Kamala Harris' husband had an affair with the babysitter. No problem at all. It was long ago and during his first marriage.
A stripper said she had a one night stand over a decade ago with former President Trump. He denied it and she did as well until it became profitable for her to publicize the accusation. The horror! How dare he! Trump has the morals of an alley cat. Disqualifying in a President. We must publish the accusation daily and have her give all the intimate details in a trial that has nothing to do with the actual act.
No matter how much you hate the left and their loyal media, I assure you it is not enough.
The only person hurt here was the babysitter, who lost both her jobs and was/is being subjected to public humiliation by our social liberal betters.
But who cares about that?
Question: did they pay nanny taxes or defraud the IRS?
Seeing as he was hot and heavy with dr jill can we discard that description now
The statements about the step kids always seem packaged to me.
They call her "Momala"? Really?
The youngest, the daughter, was 14 when Kamala married her father. The brother is only dated as being in college at the time. The divorce happened when the daughter was 9 but no info on how long Kamala was dating her father.
Since it's all about the "vibes" these days, I get the vibe that the step-kids were paid off to go along with the marketing. No skin off their backs adults.
"Was that all some kind of a preemptive cover for him because Jewish men are allegedly more moral? Or a distraction for Kamala being Anti- Israel?"
This is such a strange comment, I'll have to comment on the comments for once.
Who thinks "jewish men are more moral"? Mormons? Christian Zionists? Harvey Weinstein? The Rabbi who owns Pornhub? The Jewish organizations who are claiming "Abortion is a Sacred Jewish value"? Bernie Madoff? The Jews who run Hollywood?
As for Israel, Kamala is just like Biden. She'll give Israel whatever they ask for. And stand by them, no matter what they do.
Some people were relieved or disappointed that they didn't have to go on wondering, or pretending, or hoping or saying that Doug is gay and just Kamala's beard. Tim Scott is perhaps a little envious that he didn't come up with such a stunt to shut up the slanderers himself.
"Power imbalance" is indeed at the heart of this. Kirsten Emhoff was more career-driven and, in some ways, more successful than Doug, so he naturally turned to somebody who would look up to him and even admire him. It's the same old story.
Harris did have a relationship with Willie Brown who was separated from his wife, and he did appoint her to lucrative government positions, but the idea that she was sleeping her way to the top through multiple liaisons hasn't been proven or even supported by any evidence.
I might say that Doug Emhoff's conduct and Kamala's conduct don't matter, but Biden made so much about the "morals of an alley cat" that this just adds to my disgust with the Democrats. It would have been better if they didn't pounce on Trump's moral flaws, considering their own.
This seems related to how different people can have different opinions about the significance of marital fidelity in politics.
This is only notable in that it comes to light now. VP Harris has not been under the scrutiny that a year long primary battle would have brought. What other dust bunnies remain to be swept out from under the bed?
As far as "Cheating with the nanny" goes, isn't that what Joe Biden did? There is speculation that it led to his first wife's death.
Forget about Emhoff per se.
What is relevant is that there is some evidence that Harris is attracted to men who cheat on their wives.
Normally, I wouldn't care. But considering 30+ years of non-stop character assassinations of friends, family and anybody associated with the Republican candidate? It's past time for some pushback.
You made this, leftists. Own it.
"They call her "Momala"? Really?"
Democrats eat this shit up. The fact that the emotional development of most of them stalled out when they were four years old (their intellectual development didn't hang on much longer) probably has something to do with that.
Doubt it? What happens when things don't go the way conservatives want? They say to themselves "Got to do better next time" and get on with their lives. How about leftists? They bust windows and burn shit down in a toddler tantrum foot-stomping rage.
There are a lot of reasons I wouldn't vote for Kamala, but this isn't one of them. It doesn't involve her.
I didn't know anything about Kamala's personal life, and this makes her seem more normal. She's not married to a trans-lesbian or in a polyamorous love hexagon.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/kamala-is-anti-israel-her-husbands-law-firm-repped-the-plo/
I wonder if Jimmy Kimmel will invite the nanny on to talk about how an NDA works.
It takes a special kind of rich scumbag to act on temptation by banging the nanny who's taking care of your kids, and even worse, getting her preggers. Not only a loss of self-control, but workplace sexual abuse as the paymaster. Now: I'm not voting for the other sexual predator in the family anyway, but this is just more good, provable reason to find them both contemptible. It does go some ways toward explaining the daughter/stepdaughter, who to all appearances, looks like a miserable, unhappy, acting-out type, of the kind tending toward Antifa-like extra-curricular activities.
Well, let's see...I was supposed to care about
Nancy Reagan likes expensive things,
Nancy Reagan's friendship with an astrologer,
Nancy Reagan's choosing a mastectomy instead of a lumpectomy,
Laura Bush's high school driving skills,
Sarah Palin: is Trig her son or her grandson?
Ann Romney's horses,
Mike Pence having boundaries of chastity,
The code of conduct at a school where Mike Pence's wife taught art part-time,
An hate crime hoax not involving Karen Pence,
and so forth...
So if those are the rules, I'm perfectly fine with digging into the man who had sex with an employee and the A.G. who subsequently thought, "No red flags here; he's the husband for me!"
Maybe it would matter less if we'd go back to the days when the First Lady wasn't treated like some kind of co-president.
I'm also kind of interested to know how an elementary school teacher ended up being able to afford a house in The Hamptons. If Dougie helped pay for it, someone should alert Alvin Bragg.
Extramarital affairs are so trite.
The Bidens, the Clintons, the Kennedys...all a bunch of dirt bags.
This guy will fit right in.
"Harris did have a relationship with Willie Brown who was separated from his wife, and he did appoint her to lucrative government positions, but the idea that she was sleeping her way to the top through multiple liaisons hasn't been proven or even supported by any evidence."
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So..one liaison was just that good.
Inga said...
Harris’ relationship with Willie Brown happened after he had already been separated from his wife for over ten years. Doesn’t there need to be a current wife for Harris to be the mistress?
Along with Inga saying this it is curious that every other article I've read also uses the term separated. Not divorced. Which means still married and the two were committing adultery. I know people who've been prosecuted for that. But the military holds it's personnel to higher standards then demoncRAT politicians practice.
Rabel said...
This seems related to how different people can have different opinions about the significance of marital fidelity in politics.
It is a zinger.
Emhoff can head up "Non-toxic men for Kamala."
"Guys, I just want to remind you that abortion on demand can be good for men, toxic or not. And when I say good, I mean very good. I speak from personal experience."
Who cares? GW Bush and Barak Obama were both, as far as anyone knows, good husbands, but plenty of hate for both here.
Love the comment that Brown was separated, not divorced, so it was adultery. If you're Catholic and divorced, it's still adultery. How many hairs you wanna split here?
From my perspective, it reinforces my impression that Kamala is a trophy wife.
I don't think it helps Trump or his campaign to dwell on this. It will just cause some voters to be reminded of Trump's sexual problems. Like the "grab them by the pussy" comment, being found guilty by a jury of sex abuse, cheating on his wives, having sex with a porn star. It would be much wiser to focus on substantive issues where Harris is vulnerable. This story about Emhoff is just a distraction.
""Harris did have a relationship with Willie Brown who was separated from his wife, and he did appoint her to lucrative government positions, but the idea that she was sleeping her way to the top through multiple liaisons hasn't been proven or even supported by any evidence."
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So..one liaison was just that good."
In San Fran back then? Yes, pleasing Willie Brown was absolutely "that good".
" What happens when things don't go the way conservatives want? They say to themselves "Got to do better next time" and get on with their lives. How about leftists? They bust windows and burn shit down in a toddler tantrum foot-stomping rage.
January 6 would like a word, as would this weekend in the UK.
I'm see conservative(? or conservative libertarian) outlets bringing this up repeatedly. I agree with you. Okay, fine, her husband did these things, no it's not good. But he's not running for president! Give the people reasons (1) to vote for Trump-Vance and (2) *not* vote for Harris-Shapiro.
lonejustice said...
I don't think it helps Trump or his campaign to dwell on this.
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Are they?
I'm certainly not going to vote for Doug Emhoff after learning this.
So, mission accomplished in exposing this. I guess.
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