August 11, 2024
"A small but significant slice of Black men have historically been hesitant to support Black women seeking the highest positions of power...."
"Dr. Moya Bailey, a Northwestern University professor who coined the term 'misogynoir' to describe racist misogyny, said in an interview that while patriarchy is not unique to the Black population, 'the consequences are much higher.' Scholars note that a demographic group that is conservative on many social issues has historically equated leadership with masculinity, borne out in the dearth of Black female leaders in the church, business and elected office.... Ms. Harris will... face a significant challenge in motivating Black men to go to the polls, said W. Mondale Robinson, the mayor of Enfield, N.C., and the founder of the nonprofit Black Male Voter Project. Ms. Harris is 'not a trusted messenger for Black men,' he said.... 'Everything she says will be looked at with a side eye from Black men because there’s a lack of trust in politicians coming for you in election years, saying they’re going to do something and then they didn’t deliver on it,' Mr. Robinson said...."
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I see they’re warming up their excuses for why different people don’t vote for Harris.
Prediction: none of those excuses will include her being a bad candidate with bad ideas and no demonstration of competence.
Boy oh boy, those black men really aren't positioning Kamablah for success.
Only an idiot believes the polls showing Kamala rocketing ahead nationally when the cracks in her coalition have never been stronger. By October, it won't even be within the margin of fraud. They'll need another attempt to murder President Trump.
If it is small how is it significant? Not very many but enough? If it's worth writing about then it seems like it is significant. Or why mention it? Maybe black men don't want to vote for her because she got off on throwing their butts in jail when she was a prosecutor.
Ms. Harris will... face a significant challenge in motivating Black men to go to the polls
Especially if they correctly conclude that she’s more Indian-American than black.
One little problem that confronts you
Got a monkey on your back
Just one more fix, Lord might do the trick
One hell of a price for you to get your kicks
Ooh that smell
Can't you smell that smell
Ooh that smell
The smell of death surrounds you
There's no legitimate reason to oppose a Democrat.
"I’m standing behind a Black woman to be president of the United States, and it doesn’t make me any less of a Black man..."
Wanna bet?
I can't say about the rest but for sure the elephant in the room is giving the side-eye to the "nonprofit Black Male Voter Project."
Half Indian is where all the brains came from.
Trying to shame black men into supporting the Black Woman. Except that she isn’t one. Yes, she has a bit of Black blood in her. But probably comes across more as an entitled Brahmin Indian. Esp to Black men, used to dealing with real Black Women. Don’t think it is going to work.
Unless he or she stands in the way of the Party, like Joe Biden being forced to stand down. Or Tulsi Gabbard, gets the better of Kamala in a debate and the next day she is put on a terrorist watch list.
How many of those Black men even consider Kamala Harris Black?
https://x.com/amconmag/status/1819834592162902053?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1819834592162902053%7Ctwgr%5E7c5e92efb578c12ec8e565787f9385018cc1f989%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2024%2F08%2F04%2Fus-news%2Fvideo-shows-black-men-in-barbershop-questioning-whether-kamala-harris-is-black%2F
I can only conclude that within the black community a black man supporting Kamala means you are less of a black man.
I guess a lebron barber shop episode with the black guys all saying why Kamala is great was shot down by the focus groups…
She's not a Black woman. She's Indian. And, BLM doesn't support her, so it's a stretch. There is something called Black by Convenience, and the Democrats love to assign a Race du Jour to whomever fits their narrative. Bill Clinton was called the First Black President, and that was a winning strategy.
Like the man said, what have (they) got to lose?
It's a guilt thing. You better obey! because skin color.
So are Vance's kids Indian or White?
You better inform JD that his kids ancestry only gets one check box.
Is the mistrust because she is black?
Or is it because she is not black in any meaningful sense? Not ADOS, never culturally black, half-Jamaican half Indian (Aryan, white) never and so on.
John Henry
Mark,
Aren't Indians "white"? At least in the us.
Kamalas mother is listed as "Caucasian" on kamalas California birth certificate
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You seem to not understand the difference between 50% and <<25%.
Has the Irish vote become so declined that Harris does not see value in comparison to the African in her patrimony?
I hope intelligent black men don't want to vote for the fraud that is Kamala.
It is true that you racist dems have historically been reluctant to provide adequate descriptors for ethnic self identification because you wanted to shove as many people into specific categories, whether the person agreed or not. Going so far as to label Asians "white" in college admissions!
While simultaneously you racist dems have allowed white women to be the major beneficiaries of so many of your marxist policies. You'll even allow white chicks to gobble up Native American and black opportunities by pretending to be something they clearly are not!
But then again, the New Soviet Democraticals cant even define "woman" so....
The White Husband is a problem for her
The White Husband is a problem for her
Ice Nine to Dumb Lefty Mark...
"You seem to not understand the difference between 50% and <<25%."
Oh, we long ago established how innumerate Dumb Lefty Mark is in the late 2022 / early 2023 discussions of X and Elons other businesses. And Dumb Lefty Mark wasnt the only lefty that "distinguished" himself in that way. Thats when Rich really earned his Abacus Boy moniker.
Maybe it has to do with the fact that these men are “conservative on many issues,” and that the vast majority of black women seeking elected office are hand picked by the white left, rather than being authentically black. What does being the child of two college professors, and raised in Montreal have to do with the experience of the vast majority of black Americans?
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It's a Guilt thing. Black men better not think - just obey.
Yes, Dumb Lefty Mark seems to keep forgetting how any and every successful ethnic subgroup in the US gets lumped in with whites so that the New Soviet Democraticals can infringe on their rights while rewarding their political allies.
Yes, Dumb Lefty Mark seems to keep forgetting how any and every successful ethnic subgroup in the US gets lumped in with whites so that the New Soviet Democraticals can infringe on their rights while rewarding their political allies.
Thesis isn't strongly supported by facts: 27 black congresswomen, 32 black congressmen. https://usafacts.org/articles/heres-how-the-number-of-black-americans-in-congress-has-tripled-over-30-years/
How was she raised, Mark? Why did she go to Howard? I understand it was in order to connect with her Black heritage - because she hadn't before, having been raised by her Indian mother with little influence from her Jamaican father. So she went on a quest to create Black experiences for herself.
I don't fault her for that. I go out of my way to explore my Irish heritage though it's only about 3/8 of me, because it's the part that my extended family hews to most strongly and it's fun being Irish. But - why should people raised in Black culture think that her young adult experiences at Howard are equivalent to their upbringing?
The way you grew up is formative. It's not dispositive, but it molds you in ways that your adult experiences can seldom re-form out of you. Families that mix two very different cultures have to make an active effort to encompass both of those cultures if they want their kids to feel truly a part of both. It seems to me that White Boy J.D's child Vivek is probably going to have that experience.
I guess you’ve never seen a bi-racial person before?
This entire convo has the same vibe as the 2016 democratical whinefest over Trump winning white "educated" (credentialed) women.
Which led immediately to the nationwide, across all fronts, DEI assault on these women to make sure they would never dare do that again.
4 of those black Congressmen are Republicans
4 of those black Congressmen are Republicans
I wouldn’t have a problem with taking the average black woman off the street, one who has not been indoctrinated, on the Supreme Court. You can bet that she would be able to answer the “what is a woman” question.
Trump at least lives in the same cultural universe as most black men.
Looking forward to Democrats not judging people by skin color.
You know, Althouse, instead hunting for some half-baked academic theory with made-up four syllable words, you might consider that the last time black family men saw real wage gains was when Donald Trump was President. You might consider that some black men are questioning the idea that they must vote for someone of racial solidarity rather than economic self-interest. You might consider that some black men are sufficiently economically sophisticated to wonder why, if Kamala Harris could really lower grocery prices by signing some executive order “on day one,” she and Joe didn’t do that years ago.
But as a non-STEM university professor the half-baked academic theory with four syllable words must be mightily attractive to you.
If a black man doesn't support Kamala he's either a sexist or an avuncular Tom, I guess. It couldn't be because she's trying to drive wages for working class blacks down.
Its important to support these strong women...
https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1822645101950074880?t=D1St9V7USQopODJnBh8gag&s=19
I'm sure they'll all get on board when they hear that Harris is all about not taxing tip income.
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/08/11/kamala-harris-steals-trumps-idea-to-not-tax-tips-but-the-receipts-tell-a-different-story-n2177984
I mean, when did Trump ever come up with anything like that?
/sarc
This is what Trump was trying to say.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kamala-harris-win-with-black-men-fundraising-rcna163280
“ Black men backing Kamala Harris fuel another fundraising spree
An organizer of Monday night's virtual "Win With Black Men" event said more than 53,000 attendees helped raise more than $1.3 million in four hours for Harris' campaign.”
Words matter, Inga.
Is Kamala "Black" or "bi-racial"?
The question is whether she is Black, and you chime in about being bi-racial.
I know that Black and bi-racial are not synonyms. Apparently, you do too, but are arguing just the opposite. Does your brain ever hurt from the cognitive dissonance?
Don't hold your breath, gonna be a long wait!
Our resident russia collusion enthusiast has no idea the entire point of articles like these are to stop the bleeding away of 18 to 50 year old black male support for the New Soviet Democraticals.
And no one is impressed by the foreign money laundered thru ActBlue.
FYI for the local dolts: surging or leading campaigns dont start stealing the policy ideas of their opponents.
I believe that is Kamala's first actual policy statement since she was coronated as the candidate.
And it was shamelessly co-opted from Trump.
I guess Kamala's only good ideas, are MAGA Republican ideas!
You just said she’s Indian, you didn’t say she was bi-racial. Is she just Indian and not Black too? Her father is a black man from Jamaica whose ancestors were African slaves. How do you think Black people came to inhabit Jamaica?
"not tax on tips" is real - it is Trump's idea... and kamala just stole it.
Does that make her the B-word? Nah - It's all cool when Democrats lie and steal.
Next thing you know they’re going to be listening to Kid Rock and drinking Smirnoff ice with the white lumpenproletariat. Dear lord it is a day for othering people that don’t vote correctly.
She is as black as George Zimmerman is Hispanic. If not descended from slaves, stolen valor.
And, worth repeating:
"Joe Smith
Someone on X (I forget but a big account) suggested that if Kamala is black she needs to prove it by saying the N word : )"
What if the black woman just sucks?
isn't THE REAL PROBLEM, that black men are familiar with black women?
NYT has yet to confront its progressive wallowing in Diversity muck.
A small but significant slice of Black men have historically been hesitant to support Black women seeking the highest positions of power...
Maybe black men already knew their share of woman like Fani, Latitia, Cori and Kamala who are ascendant in the Democrat Party?
" 'Everything she says will be looked at with a side eye from Black men because there’s a lack of trust in politicians coming for you in election years, saying they’re going to do something and then they didn’t deliver on it,' Mr. Robinson said...."
I think that he answered his own question about why they're hesitant to trust Harris. (And it's not the answer that he's pushing in this article.)
Thirty one of the sixty two members of the Congretional Black Caucus are female.
I call BS.
Inga, her father is considered White in Jamaica. (The bi-racial rule works the opposite way there.)
And his ancestors OWNED slaves.
White women for Kamala! Black men for Kamala! All the skin-color obsessed better get on board.
Correction: 31 of 55
Truth bomb. CNN shocked when black men in barbershop say -out loud- they don't think Kamala is black. Oh no. (+ watch the whole thing, y'all)
You don't have to be Black to resist voting for Kamala. You just have to be intelligent .
Now if only Kamala was Korean. That'd motivate black men in another way! See the Rodney King riots in LA, and the Korean market the gun defenses.
How much black does it take to call yourself black, Inga? If a white person has a great grandmother who was black, is that person biracial? Is that person black?
@Jamie: Howard University has a strong reputation and is very influential per its location in D.C., but it's mediocre versus other colleges. Per US News and World Report, they are #2 for historically black colleges but #115 as a national university. Someone with Kamala's potential was lucky to get into Howard...and thereby impress those who don't dig deeper. Someone with Kamala's potential could not hope to compete at MIT or the U of Chicago.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/howard-university-1448
I've known and worked with intelligent black women. Kamala ain't. I don't go as far as calling her retarded, like Malice does, but she's certainly a dim bulb.
Being a DA or AG may sound impressive, but in reality those are paper-shuffling jobs that people of quite average intellect do all the time.
what did she do in those jobs, she made California worse on a quantum level
The media lied to us about Joe Biden’s health and popularity. I’m sure they’ll tell us the truth about Kamala Harris.
Hmmm... how did the quote from that nameless other guy go? If you don't vote for her, you ain't black? It is strange, I know a line like that was said, but it is a if whoever it was no longer exists. /sarc
Harris comes from a slave owning background, on her father’s side of the family. The media doesn’t have anything to say about that though.
Don’t forget Alopecia Pressley!
I thought that had already been established.
Charlemagne the God, he's just another jive talker
like Moya Bailey, if Anthea Butler isn't stupid enough for you, wait,
the atty general is an creole obama, who has let the mobs out through Chicago,
The problem here is that being Black here imputes, for many, a cultural, along with a racial component. To be Black implies sharing a history of slavery, KKK, Jim Crow, etc oppression. Harris shares none of that. Neither did Barack Hussein Obama II. They share nothing more than Black DNA. None of the cultural history or experiences. Contrast that with Michelle Obama, who was a true American Black, having descended from those experiences. And their marriage may be why Barack the Younger was given a pass on his Blackness.
Dr K has repeatedly pointed out, that with the surgeons he trained, foreign born Blacks he has taught, who did not come from the same cultural history typically did much better than those who did. Moreover, most American Blacks are multiracial, ranging from having mostly African DNA, to mostly not. In the Jim Crow South, the miscongeneration laws were often stricter than those imposed by Hitler on Jews.
Jewish - which in the Dem party today, is worse.
Sure they do if it is practical and leads to victory. Your lord and savior Donald Trump does it all the time. You just don't notice because you willingly swallow everything that he spews out.
So, Howard was the "no tax on tips" just "spewed out ?" No thought for people relying on that income ? If it's a bad idea, why steal it?
Kamala-lala-ding-dong's father is biracial - Jamaican and Irish as I recall. That means she is half Indian, one quarter White and one quarter Black.
In-ga. Scolded me severely for pointing that out.
A small slice the size of a significant slice.
"I’m standing behind a Black woman" A Jamaican-Indian woman with apparently some slave owners among her ancestors, raised by her Tamil MD mom partly in Canada. But she loves Mingus. So, Black men, isn't that enough for you? I mean, if you don't vote for her, you ain't black.
Harris comes from a slave owning background, on her father’s side of the family. The media doesn’t have anything to say about that though.
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same as Obama comes from a slave owning background, on his father’s side [and maybe mother's] of the family. The media doesn’t have anything to say about that though.
Brains? Where's the evidence?
Chicago, Michelle, and maybe even his half-white background, made Obama acceptable to African-Americans. If he were Nigerian on both sides, he wouldn't have done as well in black neighborhoods as he did. It's like the old joke about Tonto and the Lone Ranger: "What do you mean we, Kemosabe?"
"Misogynoir" sounds like a bad feminist blaxxploitation picture or an unsuccessful fashion boutique.
At least you tried Howard.
What I enjoy most most about your ridiculous claims is the marriage of absolute certainty combined with the idiocy!
Why dont you share with the class the most poignant example of your assertion. Dont hold back now. Its time to wow us!
She’s blackish, just like Obama.
Howard just shows how stupid democrats are.
When Trump says "No Tax on Tips" it is a stunt.
When Kamala says "No tax on tips" a month later it is brilliant.
Your lord and savior Donald Trump does it all the time.
Since he does it 'all the time' it should be pretty easy to name some examples of Trump championing all those wonderful Democrat policies and submitting them as his own.
Because a candidate's melanin level and genitalia are more important than policies.
Something tells me Howitzer Howard has spent a lifetime pursuing a "fast follow" strategy of claiming the ideas of smarter people as his own.
"Dr. Moya Bailey, a Northwestern University professor who coined the term “misogynoir” to describe racist misogyny..."
Calling this issue "racist misogyny" is a little odd. Refusing to vote for a woman of your own race can't be racist.
Divergyny (i.e. racist/classicist misogyny)
Ice Nine, when your side talks percentages like that, everyone really hears 3/5th.
Biden was losing Black Male support. Harris may indeed be toxic to Black Males. Democrats wouldn't make a big deal about it if it wasn't significant. She probably needs to use her Black voice more, play some Tupac at her rallies, and fund a Black men for Harris zoom call hosted by Neil Young.
Tiffany Henyard, "super mayor" of Dolton IL, is singlehandedly setting black women in power by decades if not centuries. She's small potatoes compared to the POTUS race, but how the city residents are reacting can be educational.
What policies! The only thing she has proposed is Trump's!
Well. It's the Illinois Attorney General. Only a matter of time before he's indicted too. Keep in mind every political office is for sale in Illinois.
Just stop it Howard. You're going to vote for him. You know you are. You've looked at your retirement savings. You've looked on the faces of your grandchildren as the Biden/Harris junta drive us further toward WW Tres.
The black experience in America separated the black male leadership in family by making it powerless compared with the female house servants that were often made a part of the white owner’s family. The black ladies have never agreed to give that up. And the free black men have never agreed to being ruled by the master’s black women.
"Why you worthless, no-good son-of-a-bitch, get out there and vote for Kamala" sure sounds like a winning campaign slogan.
OTOH, all their ballots will be harvested anyway. They won't have to lift a finger.
If the Democrats can successfully keep everyone focused on Harris' skin color, her abysmal public record and nonexistent to idiotic policy preferences might get less attention. Keep punching that tar baby, all of you! You've almost got him beat! (This reference to a now-decreed-racist fable is presented to point out that some fables are darn applicable to reality, and censorship is evil.)
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