From "‘Childless cat ladies,’ Jennifer Aniston, and Swifties take on JD Vance/Celebrities including Jennifer Aniston and Whoopi Goldberg cite many reasons women don’t have kids. Others are embracing being a childless cat lady like Taylor Swift" (WaPo).
It's clever to take an insult and turn it around like that. I'm trying to think of other examples of that. There's "nasty woman." And "suffragette."
Another reaction to Vance's "childless cat ladies" is that not everyone who is childless is childless by choice:
“I truly can’t believe this is coming from a potential VP of The United States,” actress Jennifer Aniston wrote Wednesday.... “Mr. Vance, I pray that your daughter is fortunate enough to bear children of her own one day.... I hope she will not need to turn to IVF as a second option. Because you are trying to take that away from her, too.”
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JD Vance could turn it around by pointing out that Jennifer Aniston is unhappy because of her decisions, not his decisions.
This is vastly amusing, though. When you lose the motherhood competition to Hillary Clinton, you're in for a bad time as a candidate. Momala is going down.
The childless part is the straw man. The insult is cat lady. It implies a level of social dysfunction that leaves a woman alone. It implies you have little to offer men or whatever you’re into…
Be clever and rail against childless all you want, ladies…
It makes zero difference. The only people offended by "childless cat ladies" are already voting for Harris just like they were already voting for H. Clinton.
I'm unable to draw a Venn diagram here, but picture this:
= 3 circles
= 1 represents childless women
= 1 represents women with cats
= 1 represents miserable women
When you put them together in Venn style, the size of the mutual overlap needs to be determined.
It may be a pretty decent size...
Childless women are going to find out that they are not particularly popular with mothers and men.
I really hope democrats lean into this.
The Left has been aching for a meme-able candidate again. After the desert of Biden, they've found a coconut tree oasis.
Another reaction to Vance's "childless cat ladies" is that not everyone who is childless is childless by choice:
Come on, you know exactly what he is talking about. Splitting hairs has become a national pastime.
Really, JDV is trying to take away IVF? I haven't heard him say that. Anyone? We're in the season of 'rip something out of context, misrepresent it, and then substitute something that was never said' and pretend it's all true, I guess.
That cat lady remark has grabbed them by the pussy.
Joe told them they weren't black if they didn't vote for him. Who cares. Their feelings are hurt. I am married, but I am a childless cat lady, and I am proud of it. We weren't able to have kids, and couldn't afford to adopt so here we are. I didn't take it the way the hurt feelings crowd did. Maybe because we have been called Racists, white supremacists, domestic terrorists, barbarians, ect..ect...by the tolerant ones on the left,that I have thicker skin than these poor hurt little women. Cry harder.
As IF there are no childless cat ladies on the right… there are some right here that comment in the threads. I had four babies and I have no cats.
wendybar said...
Joe told them they weren't black if they didn't vote for him. Who cares. Their feelings are hurt. I am married, but I am a childless cat lady, and I am proud of it. We weren't able to have kids, and couldn't afford to adopt so here we are. I didn't take it the way the hurt feelings crowd did. Maybe because we have been called Racists, white supremacists, domestic terrorists, barbarians, ect..ect...by the tolerant ones on the left,that I have thicker skin than these poor hurt little women. Cry harder.
There are two groups of childless women and I think we need to be better about differentiating between them.
The women that tried are largely on our side.
The women who hate children, avoid having them and kill them in the womb are actually anti-human and responsible for much of the pathology in our society.
As if any of these women would vote for Trump.
Also: LOL at tcrosse.
Childless cat ladies vote for unlimited abortions they will never need.
“I am married, but I am a childless cat lady, and I am proud of it.”
Ah, that explains a lot. If one takes JD Vance seriously.
R C Belaire said...
I'm unable to draw a Venn diagram here, but picture this:
= 3 circles
= 1 represents childless women
= 1 represents women with cats
= 1 represents miserable women
When you put them together in Venn style, the size of the mutual overlap needs to be determined.
It may be a pretty decent size...
7/25/24, 1:23 PM
Ahah! I was wondering what Kamala was going on about! It all makes sense, now!
He's not wrong, and the childless cat ladies who would take offense were never going to vote for Trump anyway.
Moments afterward, in a segment that is always cut from media replays of this interview, he was careful to distinguish between those who are voluntarily childless and those who wanted to have children but could not.
It is a serious mistake for the survival of civilization when we make government policy in a manner that favors or subsidizes anything but intact two-parent families. But those families tend not to vote for radical Democrats. That is the message that needs to be driven home.
JD is making a macro comment and it shouldn't be construed as in insult to any particular family.
The point is that people who don't have a tangible stake in the future for their kids are grandkids make poor policies and they just want to eat the seed corn now.
Look how wrong the cat ladies were about covid.
In any event, the Dems already had the cat lady vote.
Beautiful, tcrosse. Beautiful.
There is enough loneliness out there to go around - easy to find single, childless, miserable people of BOTH genders. I can't believe the attention such dumb statements garner.
Anyone else fed up with the Google "I am not a robot" verification? Takes longer than typing out the comment itself. Maybe a sign I should spend less time on the internet.
Democrats are free to take the Republican insults as a badge of honor, just as the republican deplorables have (I'm deplorable and proud of it!)
However, almost all democrats lack the sophistication of a redneck in a mud hole.
“Really, JDV is trying to take away IVF? I haven't heard him say that. Anyone? We're in the season of 'rip something out of context, misrepresent it, and then substitute something that was never said' and pretend it's all true, I guess.”
Senate Republicans block legislation to codify IVF access
JD Vance voted against this bill.
In general, people with children look at the world differently than people without children. If you are in a job that gives you control over the future to the extent that being President does, this difference matters. Why is this controversial? For all her success and wealth, nothing that Jennifer Aniston does will have a big effect on my children's lives. On the other hand, deciding that tens of billions of dollars in student loans does not need to be paid by the borrowers will affect them.
“CHICAGO --- Former president Donald Trump’s vice president pick U.S. Sen. J.D. Vance in June voted against the Right to IVF Act, which would have protected accessibility and affordability of in vitro fertilization (IVF) services nationwide. Northwestern University fertility expert says IVF should be the one thing all politicians can agree on.
“The fact that he voted against the Right to IVF Act is very telling and very worrisome. IVF is fundamentally ‘pro-life’ in that it helps couples have children that would otherwise not be born,” said Dr. Eve Feinberg, associate professor of reproductive endocrinology and infertility at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine, a Northwestern Medicine physician and is a director at large on the board of directors for the American Society for Reproductive Medicine.”
https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2024/july/j-d-vances-worrisome-anti-ivf-stance/?fj=1
Senate Republicans block legislation to codify IVF access
JD Vance voted against this bill.
Good. This is none of the Federal government's business. Leave it to the States as the Founding Fathers intended.
Is Harris childless because she is unable to conceive?
JDV has a point, of course, and prog MSM will misconstrue it, of course, but it is still important for him and DJT to pivot more clearly toward the moderate middle. Since Trump + pick have the trust of the deplorable base, they can do it safely. Of course many JDV quotes are pre-VP, but scoring points in the culture war is different than trying to broaden the base to win.
Well this looks like it is from long ago. Hopefully Vance is smart enough not to rehash this point. It is a political loser. Especially because he is a man making that point. That being said, I think his point has some merit. And while Jennifer Aniston is right to say that not everyone who is childless chose to be childless, if a person focuses solely on their career at a young age, and isn't earnest about getting married and having children until he or she is in their mid to late 30's or even in their 40's they have effectively chosen to be childless. They gambled that they could start that important life step late and it would all still work out, which it can sometimes, but it is a very risky choice. And it is a risky choice that everyone knows or ought to know is risky.
But insulting lefty women as "Cat Ladies," is a bad move politically. In general a politician going after their opponent's voters instead of their opponent is a bad idea. Hillary's "Basket of Deplorables" comment was politically very costly for her, no matter how much she, her aides, or her voters mnight have snickered at the joke.
Karenism is way past it's sell-by date. Vance's comment draws a nice contrast. They can own the insult but they can't avoid the pathos others see in it.
Inga said...
“Really, JDV is trying to take away IVF? I haven't heard him say that. Anyone? We're in the season of 'rip something out of context, misrepresent it, and then substitute something that was never said' and pretend it's all true, I guess.”
Senate Republicans block legislation to codify IVF access
JD Vance voted against this bill.
Release the Drones!
Also in the article Inga was too stupid to read:
"GOP senators Wednesday tried to bring up their own alternative IVF bill from Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Katie Britt (R-Ala.)."
The Republican IVF bill specifically protected IVF.
The Democrat "bill" was actually 4 bills that also included subsidies, insurance requirements, and "other reproductive procedures" code for abortion.
"The Right to IVF Act, sponsored by Democratic Sens. Tammy Duckworth (Ill.), Patty Murray (Wash.) and Cory Booker (N.J.), is a package of four bills that would both establish a nationwide right to IVF and other assisted reproductive technology, as well as lower the costs of IVF treatment to make it more accessible."
Nobody expects Inga to be honest or intelligent enough to read what she links to though.
There's no future in a movement of childless cat ladies, but it was a dumb thing for him to say. Hopefully this was before Vance got into politics, when he felt free To be a snarky prick.
Oh my. Harris supporters that were already supporting her declare their support for her.
Meanwhile: Wisconsin voters say Kamala Harris is responsible for “covering up Biden's cognitive decline.”
No wonder JD’s favorability rating is -6.
The sisterhood always circle the wagons, most especially when they're wrong. Feminine solipsistic navel-gazing is off the charts. I'm wholly convinced that if American women started becoming mass murderers and serial killers tomorrow, society would perform the mother of cultural 180's and would completely normalize serial killing within a week or less. They would even stop jailing them.
You would have major MSM campaigns round the clock on all the major networks pressuring people to not "serial killer shame". You'd have articles in the Atlantic by breakfast time with op-eds telling the personal adversity-to-triumph story of Wendy, the Wine-O-Clock Strangler.
This hyper-feminized society would go into overdrive to further ensure that women, even serial killers, are not made to feel bad..."No woman must ever be allowed to feel bad". It is unbelievable to watch the coordinated, unified bleating of these pussyhatted harridans that screech in unison for no other reason than a man held up the mirror of self-reflection.
Only they're allowed to do that to other women. How dare he.
[M]any... are embracing and owning the 'childless cat lady' label as a point of pride....
Many are embracing a life of loneliness and sorrow to score political points.
a 'Childless cat ladies for Harris 2024' image quickly amassing nearly 2 million views.
Not to be confused with 2 million people who actually embrace the childless cat lady mantle and vote for Kamala. This is just further cover for stuffing the ballot box - "crazy cat ladies came out in droves!"
Another reaction to Vance's "childless cat ladies" is that not everyone who is childless is childless by choice:
No suggestion that Harris is one of those who is childless by choice.
They already viscerally hate Vance, so now they're looking for reasons why.
As IF there are no childless cat ladies on the right… there are some right here that comment in the threads. I had four babies and I have no cats.
The right isn't putting them up as presidential candidates.
meanwhile Kamala in pushing to ban fracking gas powered engines, meat, and other luxuries might lead to mass deaths, along with her procrime policies,
Anyone else fed up with the Google "I am not a robot" verification?
I generally ignore it, and my stuff gets posted anyhow.
"Many are embracing a life of loneliness and sorrow to score political points."
There's a phenomenon called "political lesbianism". If you haven't heard of it that's a situation where heterosexual women become so filled with feminist zeal and political hatred of men that they actually become lesbians despite not actually being attracted to women. There "lesbianism" becomes a political act, not a sexual or romantic one.
This is very similar to that, except replace "lesbian" with "cat lady" or "pussyhatter" and it's the same thing...commiseration within the coven to pwn the boys. It's immature. It's childish.
It is profoundly insecure.
The back and forth between Vance and the Democratic ladies masks a deeper demographic truth, a truth revealed by the old political joke, "How do you make a woman a Republican?" "Marry her."
Both parties need to understand the demographic truth --- why do the politics of women track so closely with their marital status? This isn't true for men, by the way. And the more children a woman has, the more conservative she'll be.
What's cause and what's effect here? God only knows, 'cause I sure as hell don't. But it needs to be discussed, even if feelings are ruffled along the way.
First, also in that link about the IVF bill:
“Following the vote, every Senate Republican signed a pledge saying they “strongly support” continued nationwide access to IVF, which surged to the forefront of election year politics when the Alabama Supreme Court in February ruled that embryos are children and thus protected when it comes to the state’s wrongful death statute.“
Second, another supposed insult which was turned around and used as a badge of honor, I think, was the “and yet she persists” comment by McConnell about Warren.
“The right isn't putting them up as presidential candidates.”
So, are you suggesting that a presidential candidate who have no children should not be president?
“Five presidents (Washington, Madison, Jackson, Polk, Buchanan) did not have any biological children.”
Well, Washington was the “Father of the Nation” anyway.
“And the more children a woman has, the more conservative she'll be.”
Oh really? I have had 4 babies.
Inga said...
“And the more children a woman has, the more conservative she'll be.”
Oh really? I have had 4 babies.
Any intelligent person knows that Bell curves exist.
You are obviously on the left tail of that bell curve. It is not the only bell curve you are on the left tail of.
Another turn-around is "and yet she persisted" (in reference to Hillary's ? insistence that the rules of the Senate didn't apply to her).
Living where I do, there are uncountable multitudes of childless cat ladies sporting various articles of clothing and accessories adorned with that phrase.
They also tend to sport lace-collar symbols in honor of the shriveled, prunish, and thankfully dead enemy of the US, "Notorious RGB".
@Inga,
Oh really? I have had 4 babies.
And I know a lefty Jewish feminist who had five, but you and her are statistical anomalies among the Mormons, Orthodox Jews, conservative Catholics, Evangelicals, Muslims, etc who are the majority producers of multi-child families.
As The Vault Dweller points out, when a woman decides to embark upon the babymaking quest, as opposed to other things, can have a significant effect on her chances of finishing up childless.
Only about 3% of woemen are infertile in their early 20s. Roughly 8% are infertile at 30. So about one woman in twenty loses her chance if she doesn't get to it in her 20s. By 35 another woman in 20 misses the boat, and by 40 one woman in three is infertile. After that it's pretty much a full collapse. With rapidly increasing miscarriage rates on top.
The good news is that a clear majority of women can still have children in the second half of their 30s. But the bad news is that a sizeable minority cannot. And most of them cannot becasue they have missed the boat by delaying things. As noted above, only 3% are infertile in their college years.
So when did the unfortunate Jennifer Aniston start trying to have a baby ? That's her business, of course, but if she didn't start trying till she was past 35, then she was taking a gamble, which she lost. That's very sad. But if it's true then what she should be using her privileged position on a soapbox to do is to tell young women - if you want children, get going in your 20s. The earlier the better.
Lemme guess, the right to IVF that was voted on had the requirement that someone else pay for it.
The "childless cat lady" is a caricature we all know well.
It goes beyond "childless" and "cat lady". It's white women with the pink pussy hat. It's the screeching green haired nose ring girl on campus. It's all the women on The View.
Thing is, he is 100% correct. Every time I see a thirty-something, lulu-lemon clad woman walking her one, two, three dogs…i want to yell out of the window, “get married! Have a baby!” Because they are 100% lavishing their peak fertile years’ maternal instincts on the puppies. Dems dark world is void of the romance of life. Let them sell their vision of a society in which the highest good is abortion, sterilization, atomization, bodily mutilation. I admire The hell out of conservatives like Vance who are willing to make the case that human flourishing is tethered to natural law…that man and woman He created us, and that there is meaning and purpose in our sexuality, and that it must be directed toward the good of the family. Any civilization that does not promote family, revere fertility, sanctify marriage, is doomed.
The Sisters of Perpetual Grievance will always be among us.
Scott Adams once said (I paraphrase): If an Isis terrorist walked across the Mexican border and made it to San Francisco a compassionate cat lady would offer him a cot in her apartment.
The cat ladies render us defenseless.
The hardest job you could ever love. True for a women and a man, for a mother and a father. In fact, we celebrate the People and our Posterity daily and an extra day during leap years. Thanks, mom. Thanks, dad... grandma and grandpa.
Very typical of Inga to snark about JD Vance's voting against that particular IVF bill without mentioning that it had Democrat-favored features pointed out by Achilles (subsidies, insurance, etc.) that many reasonable people might disagree with and yet be generally in favor of IVF. Not very adult of you to do that. Disagree better.
The cat ladies render us defenseless.
Them, and the misinterpretation of natural born in a legal jurisdiction that attaches to the land and not the People.
The Democratic convention themes seems to really going to be
"How Could You?"
And we are definitely in the Age of the Harridans
This is the dawning of the Age of the Harridans
The Age of the Harridans
The Harridans.
ah darling nikki who did the desperate sex pot twist in the campaign against desantis, complete with the bra less shirt, a little much my dear,
Party members have only outrage to sustain them. That's why Party members are always talking about how exhausting it is, and how they just wish it would be over, and how they're for boring. It is draining to be constantly rattled, repeatedly agitated. It's The Party that is doing it to them, but they blame Republicans.
a thirty-something, lulu-lemon clad woman walking her one, two, three dogs
The People and our Puppies in an anti-reality, perhaps under The Twilight Amendment where humanity and morality are aborted as a human rite in a wicked solution. Roe, Roe, Roe your baby, down the river Styx.
Oh really? I have had 4 babies.
Thank goodness. What if you hadn’t?
Motherhood is like capital, an investment with forward-looking returns.
Sensitive, caring, only thinking of others Jennifer Anniston from a few years ago:
I've just lost a few people in my weekly routine who have refused or did not disclose [whether or not they had been vaccinated], and it was unfortunate. I feel it's your moral and professional obligation to inform, since we're not all podded up and being tested every single day."
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-58112957.amp
Vance: "I'm sorry, the term I should have used was 'crazy' - 'A bunch of crazy cat ladies who are miserable. Some of those ladies actually have reproduced.'
@planetgeo, I dont believe you quite appreciate just how oblivious to details and relevant facts Inga happens to be. She reads headlines only, routinely copies and pastes content without comprehension and generally just operates off whatever the latest New Soviet Democratical Party talking points happen to be.
WYSIWYG
They already viscerally hate Vance, so now they're looking for reasons why.
"Hitler, Jr. does another bad thing! Film at eleven...!"
It's clever to take an insult and turn it around like that. I'm trying to think of other examples of that. There's "nasty woman." And "suffragette."
The most frequently used example would have to be "fake news". So common in daily discourse that I suspect a lot of people forget where it came from.
Originally it was the media calling candidate Trump statements "fake news"
He turned it around so completely that at some famous annual dinner at the now defunct nauseum, Bob Woodward had to deny it.
"Mr president, the media are not fake news"
https://youtu.be/pMxXQKJ1ygM?si=fvFehUrlOl6lduYp
John Henry
I don't have a problem with childless woman. I do somewhat have a problem with women who not only practice but PREACH childlessness as a morally superior way to go through life, and yet insist on having an outsize say in how people WITH children raise and educate them.
Also, isn't it ironic that the same people who are all-in on not having children want to "save democracy"? Who are they trying to saving democracy FOR?
I don’t care what people of Hollyweird have to say about anything.
Inga said...
“And the more children a woman has, the more conservative she'll be.”
“Oh really? I have had 4 babies.”
I have it on good authority that it’s the fifth baby that makes you into a conservative.
Forewarned is forearmed.
British economist John Maynard Keynes most famous quote was "in the long run we are all dead"
His economics, which 100 years later could be described as "spend like there is no tomorrow" (because we'll be dead)
He was gay and childless. I think he kept catsHe is dead.
Many of us have children. In the long run we are not dead. We live on in perpetuity through our children, grandchildren etc.
John Henry
Eva Marie said...
Inga said...
“And the more children a woman has, the more conservative she'll be.”
“Oh really? I have had 4 babies.”
I have it on good authority that it’s the fifth baby that makes you into a conservative.
Forewarned is forearmed.
**********
And she who is forearmed is half an octopus.
Just sayin'.
I am a divorced man with a daughter. Al Bundy from Married with Children fame said it best: Don’t try to understand women, women understand each other and they hate each other
When my ex’s hormones turned to perimenopause she was insufferable and lost her job a marriage as a result.
Inga linked to this article:
Senate Republicans block legislation to codify IVF access (The Hill)
"Legislation to establish a national right to in vitro fertilization (IVF) was blocked by Senate Republicans on Thursday, amid a push by Democrats to put the GOP on defense over reproductive rights ahead of the November elections.
The Right to IVF Act, sponsored by Democratic Sens. Tammy Duckworth (Ill.), Patty Murray (Wash.) and Cory Booker (N.J.), is a package of four bills that would both establish a nationwide right to IVF and other assisted reproductive technology, as well as lower the costs of IVF treatment to make it more accessible.
The vote Thursday is the latest in a series set up by Senate Democratic leadership about codifying reproductive rights.
Democrats want to drive a wedge between Republicans and put them on the record opposing those efforts, especially as the GOP struggles with how to message its stance on reproductive rights in the wake of the Supreme Court’s decision overturning Roe v. Wade.
Creating a nationwide right to IVF means this:
"The bill seeks to make IVF treatment more affordable by mandating coverage for fertility treatments under employer-sponsored insurance and certain public insurance plans. It would also expand coverage of fertility treatments, including IVF, under US military service members and veterans’ health care." (CNN)
Link: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/06/13/politics/senate-ivf-bill-vote
planetgeo said...
Very typical of Inga to snark about JD Vance's voting against that particular IVF bill without mentioning that it had Democrat-favored features pointed out by Achilles (subsidies, insurance, etc.) that many reasonable people might disagree with and yet be generally in favor of IVF.
Also the cause of the IVF freak-out was an unauthorized person destroying some frozen IVF embryos and the Alabama supreme court finding that the frozen embryos qualified *for the purposes of suing under an Alabama law that allowed collecting damages for the death of an unborn child* which it sounds like the proposed legislation did nothing to address. Pretty on brand for Democrat legislative proposals.
effinayright: very funny
When Barack Obama said:
"They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
How was it different from J.D. Vance saying these things?
“a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too.”
“Look at Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, AOC—the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children.”
I think they're basically the same: They are appealing to their base. Obama knew he was never going to get the bitter clinger vote, just as Vance knows he isn't getting the single cat lady vote. Lot's of people acting all hurt over this, but let's face it, you were never going to vote for him, no matter what he said.
Added: Let's assume these quotes weren't mistakes in an unguarded moment, because then they mean nothing: Everybody says stupid things from time to time. Which of these could be more likely to appeal to swing voters? I think Vance's win by a lot, here's why. Married women with kids are the quintessential swing vote. They're slightly Republican, but only slightly. Their votes can be won or lost and they're a huge demographic. On the other side, is there a big swing demographic of people who are anti-religion and anti-gun? I don't think so. I think they're massively Democratic voters and not really winnable or losable.
Added: Two other major differences: Obama was the candidate for president and Vance is vying for VP. Obama made his comments on the campaign trail and Vance made his comments three years before being chosen as Trump's VP.
Inga, bless your little heart. I know the Bidenitis/Kamalaitis makes it confusing, so I'll explain it again. Cats are not children.
You're welcome.
@Dogma: I do somewhat have a problem with women who not only practice but PREACH childlessness as a morally superior way to go through life, and yet insist on having an outsize say in how people WITH children raise and educate them.
That statement wins the prize for this thread.
They seem to be the same old hens who are the first to cluck whenever a man is seen in the company of a woman they consider too young for him. "Love is love" according to their pious left wing dogma, unless it's a 35 year old man who loves a 23 year old woman (like my dad and mom.)
Hey there's more where that came from for the ladies. JD Vance supoosedly put a latex lubricated inside in the crack of a sofa and inserted his membrum virile in same and got off. A guy who will try to impregnate a sofa has a vivid imagaination. Or so Jennifer might say.
I'm not knocking IVF. My two grandchildren were born through IVF since my younger daughter got a late start on things. Times change--my wife and I had our children before we were 28.
Delay marriage and the idea of children into your mid to late 30s and things can get tough.
The "and yet she persisted" line was a campaign slogan for a democrat Party congresswoman named Wendy Davis aka Abortion Barbie. Remember when she was selling her magic sneakers?
https://www.google.com/search?q=Wendy+Davis+abortion+sneakers&oq=Wendy+Davis+abortion+sneakers+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTE3Njk0ajBqN6gCFLACAQ&client=ms-android-uscellular-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ip=1
Keynes was bisexual. Somewhat to the surprise of his friends.
Here’s the reality.
The national debt is crushing. Soon Social Security and Medicare will be gone.
If you’re old and don’t have kids or close family who are younger and like you then you are going to die without help unless you are rich.
This is the history of humans.
Rachel will be fine unless her caretakers take all her money and leave her to die. Her Friends will not help her.
Brad dumped her to have kids. That’s life
It's clever to take an insult and turn it around like that. I'm trying to think of other examples of that.
Deplorables! Did anyone say that already?
"They seem to be the same old hens who are the first to cluck whenever a man is seen in the company of a woman they consider too young for him. "Love is love" according to their pious left wing dogma, unless it's a 35 year old man who loves a 23 year old woman (like my dad and mom.)"
There is a 13 year age difference between my wife and I, and when we met she matched the identity of a woman other women would "consider to young for me". Add to that equation my wife being a naturalized foreigner (Brazil) and I could tell you stories of times some women were visibly irked by the combo.
So much of this bellicosity is really just lots of women trying to control male sexuality, and more importantly who they choose to get with. They will never admit that but 90% of feminism is head games working to lower men's own sexual market value to make them politically and approachably safe for women that otherwise 'couldn't get him'.
not everyone who is childless is childless by choice:
Sure but this is one of those "true enough" things. Just like it is "true enough" that there are only two sexes based on XX/XY. Yes there are some rare edge conditions that make it only 99.99999% correct but it is close enough.
For those without a score card, we are at the point in this event where everything/anything JD ever said (as well as his friends, family, people he might know, etc.), going back to first grade will be weaponized against him to try and destroy him.
There are reasons Democrat women remain single. Number one: most men won't marry a professional whiner.
I know many conservative women who did not or could not have children. Or lost them. Vance needs to cut that shit.
I know a lot of pro-choice mothers. One took a job in an abortion clinic. For one day. She sorted baby arms, legs, organs, and heads in trays to make sure all the parts were out.
She was driven insane.
I think, at minimum, every pro-choice voter and politician needs to spend a day doing this. Prove that you believe in it. Every one of you. Otherwise, also cut that shit.
"The bill seeks to make IVF treatment more affordable by mandating coverage for fertility treatments under employer-sponsored insurance and certain public insurance plans."
In plain English, "The bill seeks to make IVF treatment more affordable by forcing people who have no interest in the procedure to pay for fertility treatments of those who do."
Vance is opposed to a smallish fraction of the country, unmarried, childless women, ruling over the much larger fraction who get married and have kids. Not that they should be excluded from power, but that they shouldn't have outsized influence--which they do have in the Democratic party.
Sure but this is one of those "true enough" things. Just like it is "true enough" that there are only two sexes based on XX/XY. Yes there are some rare edge conditions that make it only 99.99999% correct but it is close enough.
No, it's 100% correct. There are only two sexes, period. That you can arrive at the sex of, say, male with a karotype of XXY or XXXY or even XX is irrelevant to how many sexes there are. Sex is part of your phenotype. And there are only two of them in any species.
not everyone who is childless is childless by choice:
For example, that weird female incel who spoke outside of the RNC about detesting political violence while simultaneously wishing the shooter had killed Trump/wishing someone else would try (and while simultaneously brandishing a crossbow while trumpeting her piety in not brandishing a handgun).
Tell me JD Vance privately pays for his wife's childbirth needs, and his children's healthcare.
Did his/his wife's insurance plan offer childcare coverage, or did it have the government pipe it down their throats?
"It's clever to take an insult and turn it around like that." Actually, that's not exactly it.
This is not a particularly good example but traditional values and morality are not in the Democrat playbook. Here's a better example: "Look at me. I think it's okay to kill an unborn baby right up to the moment of birth!" Or, "Look at me. I abetted a Hamas jihadist in defacing statues and burning an American flag!
Depending on the generation these are badges of honor for Democrats.
As for Harris, she considers herself a mom. She really could have gone either way, having married a man who had children of 15 and 20, the year they wed and their natural mom was divorced, not deceased. She could have just referred to them as "my husband's kids", but she embraced "Momala". Sincere or not, it shows that Democrats are not entirely anti-natalist, even if the single childless women demographic is hugely Democrat.
"Vance needs to cut that shit."
Vance needed to rephrase that shit. He told the truth, but he did it wrong. He wasn't subtle. He wasn't tactful enough to damn them with faint praise. There's ways to dog whistle a backhand and create pecking orders within your target demographic without isolating the whole demographic. He's 39.
The target he was aiming at - the tanit-worshipping, commiserating and spiteful DNC catlady electorate - deserves to be insulted for how they're trying to control the lives of others, whether they have children or not. Their visible envy and spite out of all proportion to their demographic power should be reproved, by everyone.
There is no political advantage to remarks like that. Kamala is not clever, but she will be programmed to avoid insulting undecided voters unnecessarily.
It's clever to take an insult and turn it around like that. I'm trying to think of other examples of that. There's "nasty woman." And "suffragette."
The most frequently used example would have to be "fake news". So common in daily discourse that I suspect a lot of people forget where it came from.
Originally it was the media calling candidate Trump statements "fake news"
He turned it around so completely that at some famous annual dinner at the now defunct nauseum, Bob Woodward had to deny it.
"Mr president, the media are not fake news"
https://youtu.be/pMxXQKJ1ygM?si=fvFehUrlOl6lduYp
John Henry
"Either we pay for people's medical costs or we don't."
Either we pay for people's food costs or we don't.
Either we pay for people's housing costs or we don't.
Either we pay for people's *whatever* costs or we don't.
Yeah. And none of those things are insurance.
RideSpaceMountain : So much of this bellicosity is really just lots of women trying to control male sexuality, and more importantly who they choose to get with.
I don't think that's quite right. The bellicosity is based on resentment that in the opinion of such women, society is structured unfairly between the sexes. Which to some extent it is. But the guilty party is not the patriarchy, but Mother Nature.
Who has arranged that it is difficult for a woman to pursue a career on a timescale consistent with also pursuing a family. Men do not face this problem. The consequences of a woman putting career first up to say age 30, and only then embarking on the hunt for a suitable mate, and children are not limited to shrivelling eggs and galloping infertility. The problem is also that evolution has baked in different drivers of sexual attraction in men and women. Men favor youth, health, good looks and absence of skankiness in a female mate. They don't care so much about status. Whereas women favor status in a male mate. And status means status equal to or higher than their own.
So you have a stack of able women with good careers, embarking on serious mate-hunting in their 30s. When they have achieved high status for themselves thereby cutting down the stock of equal or higher status men to mate with. And when they are five or ten years past the peak of their own attactiveness as a mate. So they find their pursuit of career has blinded them to the fact that they've screwed up their family options. To justify this to themselves, they conclude, or pretend to conclude, that the family thing doesn't matter.
Mother Nature doesn't play this trick on less able women. Most working women, like most working men, work because they need the money, not because they're pursuing a vocation. Thus they have no difficulty in finding mates they rate highly enough to marry, while they're still young.
So the catlady problem is concentrated among women with the ability to succeeed in business careers or academia, who have ignored all the warnings that unlike the men they are competing with in their careers, they are missing the family boat. Because Mother Nature has arranged it so. The bitch.
@Lee Moore
"Many women will never forgive God for making them women." I can't remember who said that, but it is very true, and you're right about some aspects of their discontent being from forces beyond their control, but I disagree that it's all of it or even most of it.
In pathological psychology people with insecurities cope with their lack of control by attempting to control whatever they can even more, and if they're reasonably intelligent their ability to manipulate becomes the pathway for them to accomplish this. The reason for the coping mechanism might be environmental, but the actual coping is about controlling someone else, and many of these women are intimidated by men, their lack of the right kind of attention from the 'right kind' of man, and their inferiority to other women.
As George Carlin famously said, "if you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten", and these women use head games and sociopathy to demoralize other women about their possibilities and moralize to men about their choices.
I'll put it maybe a different way, 'they are trying to control everyone's sexuality, and who anybody but them gets to be with'. They are intimidated by the sexual potential of others, and it oozes from them like venom.
Ah, the demoncRAT compromise on display. You have to vote for this bill giving women a "Right to IVF" along with all kinds of other liberal crap or we're going to accuse you of opposing IVF!
There are other reasons besides age that factor into what women can and can't get pregnant naturally. Although age is a huge one. Had a neighbor in CA about the same age as my wife trying desperately hard to get pregnant. She also rigidly controlled her weight. Women without enough body fat don't get pregnant. She and hubby went on a month long vacation back home where no one fed her her restricted diet. She gained 10 pounds of unwanted weight- then got pregnant. My 29 year old daughter wasn't getting pregnant the old fashioned way. Neither she or my wife wanted to listen to my advice that she gain a few pounds and keep trying. She got pregnant with IVF assistance. Not to be critical but my 36 year old newlywed daughter-in-law doesn't have a low body fat problem. Grandchild #10 is on it's way.
And- how is IVF a matter of national concern? Does there really need to be a law enshrining it as a right? People already have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Any attempt to ban IVF would clearly be unconstitutional under the 10th amendment. Unlike abortion IVF does not in any way terminate a living human being.
Should IVF be subsidized by the government or be mandated in insurance coverage? No. My insurance does cover it. My daughters and husband's insurance covered only a tiny portion.
The right to pursue happiness doesn't include the right to be subsidized doing so.
This, announced today, is clearly pertinent to the issue at hand.
These ladies having vapors over JD Vance's comments, can they define a woman?
Asking for a Supreme Court Justice.
Over the target...
And anybody who didn't immediately recognize that he was talking about jen Rubin hasn't been paying attention.
You gotta ask yourself, how important was Pence? The answer applies to Vance too. Remember, they wanted to hang him.
Vance is bought and paid for by Peter Thiel. He is next in line to the world's most prolific liar. It's all talk.
The Thielverse is the tech billionaire class steering their enormous influence. It needs an Ida Tarball level expose. Thiel clearly pulling the strings here. Gave Vance the capital, allowed him to invest in these startups Theil was working with.
They are confident they can manage Trump. They are blind to how dictators always turn on their patrons.
I recall the "little old ladies in tennis shoes" who voted for Goldwater/Nixon/Reagan.
ActBlue has deposited another $0.10 into your account Rich. They're thankful for your cervix.
With all the "childless cat ladies" furor, I am still grateful that the political left continues its decline with the antipathy to children and normal families.
"I had four babies and I have no cats." Maybe that's the problem, Inga. If you had cfats to go with the kids, perhaps you wouldn't have turned out so batshit crazy lefty.
Tina Trent said...
I know many conservative women who did not or could not have children. Or lost them. Vance needs to cut that shit.
I know a lot of pro-choice mothers. One took a job in an abortion clinic. For one day. She sorted baby arms, legs, organs, and heads in trays to make sure all the parts were out.
She was driven insane.
I think, at minimum, every pro-choice voter and politician needs to spend a day doing this. Prove that you believe in it. Every one of you. Otherwise, also cut that shit.
I think this is right.
I think if you want to start a war or support one you should spend a day at an actual military hospital in a war zone.
We need to properly identify couples who have trouble conceiving and our adoption programs should be oriented around them.
Keep women affordable, available, reusable, and taxable... and the bearer of children to transgender couplets, on their knees to social progress.
As if everyone doesn't know exactly who the insane cat lady demographic is. Not a single vote will be shifted because of Vance's comment. Insane cat ladies were never voting for Trump.
Hey there's more where that came from for the ladies. JD Vance supoosedly put a latex lubricated inside in the crack of a sofa and inserted his membrum virile in same and got off.
as they say, debunked. You will have to find something else to mastubate to.
So the CCLs are just now getting agitated over some of the cuff remark he made 3 years ago?
What a bunch of losers. I feel sorry for their cats.
Thank goodness they failed to reproduce.
Dave Begley said...
"Look how wrong the cat ladies were about covid."
Don't think you Know Nothings want to make being wrong about covid an issue.
“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
Guess who.
Jennifer Aniston couldn't keep two men and couldn't produce issue. No wonder she's royally pissed. Typical American female, for her cohort. Good riddance, evolution-wise.
The pissed-off cat ladies are going to turn out bigly for Kamala. They are a current threat to sanity, but in the long run they'll Shaker out.
I don’t recall Aniston making a fuss about young girls having their breasts cut off and other mutilations performed by Big Health/trannie care.
White leftist women can insult you - but don't you dare insult them.
Dudes thinks its fun to mock cats. cats outnumber dogs as pets.
Just saying.
Kamala and the democrat press are in full lie mode - that she did this. Because she did.
From a libertarian perspective, it’s none of JD Vance’s business how many kids we do or do not have. When governments get too Interested in us creating more or less children to meet the needs of the state, they get creepy and authoritarian (I’m looking at you, China). He needs to stay in his lane, run a budget and fix my potholes; not become a birth rate czar.
A lot of people are underestimating, how damaging Vance is and will be to the Trump campaign.
Personally, I think childless cat men and males with manbuns are objectively worse.
Can we please not mock Inga regarding her children?
“American is run by a bunch of childless cat ladies.”
Really? Who is Vance trying to kid?
Kamala Harris hasn't birthed any children. Just like the 46 presidents before her.
I recall the "little old ladies in tennis shoes" who voted for Goldwater/Nixon/Reagan.
My grandma was like that. A Roosevelt Democrat and lifelong friend of Barry Goldwater, going back to their school days at Phoenix Union High School. Voted for him, and then Nixon and Reagan. I'm pretty sure she went back to voting for Bill Clinton before her demise, although in her defense, she was becoming senile by then.
I just find cat hoarders hilarious no matter what their marital status.
"So. How many cats you got?"
"I have eleven cats. I know that sounds like a lot, but thay're really a manageable amount."
"Uh huh. Does that include all the strays you feed?"
"Oh. In that case I have 57."
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