July 19, 2024

Sunrise — 5:38, 5:39, 5:48.

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76 comments:

Original Mike said...

You did sunrise this morning? Kudos!

Narr said...

Sunrise is over-rated.

I kid, I kid. Beautiful!

narciso said...

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1814045381518340504?

Narr said...

That hanging 'fishhook' branch is still there. (Second picture next to the sun.)

MadisonMan said...

I noticed this morning how dark it was when I got up at 4:40 to walk the dog. It's past mid-July I guess.

Breezy said...

A new Don. ;)

Original Mike said...

"I noticed this morning how dark it was when I got up at 4:40 to walk the dog. It's past mid-July I guess."

Astronomical twilight still starts as early as 3:00. Ends at 23:00.

4 measly hour of observing time.

Dr Weevil said...

A meme I haven't seen on Twitter, but someone on Ace of Spades mentioned: Donald Trump in 1980 saying "Why do time travelers keep trying to kill me? I'm just a realtor!" Pictorial version here, but I thought I should quote it in case it's taken down.

narciso said...

well his uncle did work with tesla, perhaps on the time machine,

narciso said...

interesting three years ago, wef schwabs warned of a cyber epidemic,

Political Junkie said...

If Joe Biden stays in the race, against all the prominent /powerful/wealthy Ds wanting him out, gotta admit, he has big brass Dem balls.

If he stays in and beats Trump, this will surpass "Dewey defeats Truman".

Cheers all.

Jersey Fled said...

According to Senator Josh Hawkeye, whistleblowers have told him the Trump rally in Pennsylvania was designated as a “loose security” event with untrained officers from other agencies filling in for USSS personnel and normal procedures not being followed.

Loose security for the Republican candidate for President.

I hope this isn’t true.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-rally-had-loose-security-untrained-dhs-agents-standing-in-for-secret-service-whistleblowers-claim/

Iman said...

I see the “ducks are out early this morning”. I had a gym coach who used to use that line when we gathered for PE in formation and some of our more comedic classmates would break wind.

Jersey Fled said...

Here’s a more complete version of the story from The Hill if you can’t get past the NRO firewall.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hawley-whistleblowers-allege-trump-rally-was-considered-loose-security-event/ar-BB1qifkx

My apologies if this is being discussed on another thread.

Sally327 said...

Merriam-Webster posted the question "what word/grammar hill would you die on" but took it down because of an influx of people posting an answer about the definition of "woman" (an adult human female).

My answer would be using the word "impact" as a verb, e.g., The November election will impact our country's future as opposed to, The November election will have an impact on our country's future.

imTay said...

I used to enjoy watching the show "Air Disasters" and I wonder what "root cause" they would arrive at if the recognized government of a particular country and set of borders never closed off the air space where fighting was taking place, and air defense was in use? I am thinking that the blame ultimately would fall pretty hard on whoever had the responsibility, and failed to close off the air space.

But I understand that the above thinking is all wrong, and just to ask the question is to be a traitor.

Achilles said...

All in Podcast. 188

One of the speakers at the convention was David Sacks. At ~37 minutes he talks about prep for his speech at the convention.

I believe 3 of the people on this podcast voted for Biden in 2020. I know at least 2 did.

Trump gets 80 million legitimate votes minimum. I would put the over under at 90 million.

Josephbleau said...

"well his uncle did work with tesla, perhaps on the time machine"

Trump's uncle earned a PhD in EE frm MIT and was a Prof there, he worked with VanDeGraff. He was a researcher in the MIT Rad Lab. Radar won WW2.

In a weird shift, Trump's Uncle was assigned to review Tesla's notes regarding a Death Ray, and decided that it was not serious.

Do do Dooooo doo do do doooodoo.

and trump is a genetic idiot.

Original Mike said...

"Trump gets 80 million legitimate votes minimum. I would put the over under at 90 million."

The democrat will get 90,000,001.

Josephbleau said...

i see now that the Trump assassin had a drone. Perhaps from Iran?

boatbuilder said...

I am just spit balling here, but one reason that the Dems might want to lay off on the election theft machinery if Trump is well ahead is that everyone is paying a lot closer attention this time. If there is "proof" in 2024 of the sort of shenanigans that seem pretty obviously to have been going on in 2020, that would seem to validate the "unproven" claims of 2020.

If the Dems know they are going to lose, they may want to save their ammo. "See, Trump won. No fraud. You people are delusional." Gear up for 2028.

But that is the nice way of thinking about it. The nasty way is that they shoot Trump, start a civil war, crack down and impose martial law. Or just steal the election anyway and say "what are you gonna do about it?"

Now that I have thought it through, I think we get the nasty way. The leopard doesn't change it's spots.

RCOCEAN II said...

wonderful, sharp images. Must have cleaned my computer screen.

Aggie said...

Whelp.... made it home finally. We got to the airport at 05:20. Blue screens everywhere; check-in and bags all by hand, although the bag tags were printing out. Six hours later, we were the fourth plane to board today, for this carrier. A few of the carriers, JetBlue, Spirit, Air Alaska, Delta, didn't seem to be as badly affected. We were the fourth plane out for our carrier, and as we boarded, the Wizard of Oz announcements were starting to come out, in the jam-packed terminal, flights cancelled 'Come Back Tomorrow !'. The very first one of these was for Orlando, land of Disney. Hoo boy, a lot of frazzled people.

We landed late too, and sat on the plane for a half hour as the lottery was held for an available gate. Houston was even worse inside the terminal, now full into the Day of Doom, chockablock with sweaty, unhappy people dealing with their fate of late, later, and Not Today. And then our bags came and we were free of The Pit !

Home about 5 hours late. I feel as if we have escaped an almost certain terrible travel experience, by the wheel-of-fortune grace of the travel gods. I made it a point to thank each and every service person that helped us along the way, profusely, telling them how grateful we were. A lot of cash tips. It must be a gawdawful job on days like today.

traditionalguy said...

duck , duck, go.

Achilles said...

Original Mike said...

"Trump gets 80 million legitimate votes minimum. I would put the over under at 90 million."

The democrat will get 90,000,001.

The democrat party is going through it's crucible right now.

When the regime tries to mail in votes after boarding up their counting facilities Trump supporters will go through their crucible.

The people who are worthy of freedom will fight for it. We will win.

The rest will tell everyone they helped and supported Trump all along.

Deep State Reformer said...

Boatbuilder said... @ 7/19/24 8:19 PM
"But that is the nice way of thinking about it. The nasty way is that they shoot Trump, start a civil war, crack down and impose martial law. Or just steal the election anyway and say 'what are you gonna do about it?' "
Yah, that's a very succinct analyses of our situation right now. The wreckers are anxious, impatient and can't believe they're in this position again because a grumpy old man can't shit, but won't get off the pot. Impatient and confident but still worried. Interesting times we live in, am i right?

Deep State Reformer said...

Those are some really pleasing-to-the-eye images you've captured there professor. I'm going to use one as the new background art on my tablet.

traditionalguy said...

The story of planned hit team at the Butler Rally grows. Either that or the loner is a trained assassin.

The roof was practically flat 340 feet from the Trump.
The rifle was planted 6 days before. Secret Service did not bother.
The shooter had flown a drone over the site , unlike the Secret Service.
The shooter has 3 encrypted accounts.
The Secret Service was not manned, but Homeland Security sent some of their people.
The coms between various officers were on different channels.
Only thing the assassin team seems to have forgotten was a laser target illuminator and a Hellfire Missile.


Josephbleau said...

By their own accounts, women are easily influenced. They are also hopelessly weak, hopelessly foolish, and hopelessly unable to resist the predations of those wicked creatures, men, who keep outsmarting them. Recognizing this situation, lawyers have devised a strategy, known as the Svengali defense (after the lead male character in Maurier’s 1895 novel, Trilby, intended to get accused females off the hook by shifting the blame to the men around them.) How such miserable creatures can demand “equality” is beyond me.

Such says van Creveld. I think women are smart but vulnerable to fancy. Women are best when men are supervising them. Like jfk and Jackie. JFK can be rapy, and Jackie can find the rich Greeks. Hi ho ho.


In my own life, I found a great girl that loved to f me and I loved to f her, and we did thus for decades. We fucked and oralled and had it all. So there it is.

BG said...

So far on “X” I’ve seen two separate videos of people offering to do what the SS failed to do - protect Donald J. Trump. One was a guy from “the hood” and the other a military veteran. Both pleading to let DJT know they and their people are ready and willing to be his private security. Comments were made that it would not be possible to work in conjunction with the SS. It was then suggested that people roam outer perimeters, note locations of available rocks or other projectiles, etc., to use as distractions. Put American ingenuity to work. Whoever is trying to stop Trump, isn’t going to quit.

Kathryn51 said...

Jersey Fled said...

Loose security for the Republican candidate for President.

My understanding is that he only has Secret Service security because he is a former President (like Obama, bush, etc). Most candidates don't get security until they are legally nominated.

Meanwhile - and perhaps this is old news, but I just read that Doctor Jill is heading up the US Delegation to the Olympics. What the F*ck??? I realize that Joe isn't up to this, but he is SICK (after all Covid KILLS) and a devoted wife would be home taking care of her beloved husband. So-called "beloved husband." So once again she gets the perks of Air Force One, 5 Star lodgings, etc. etc.

Oh yeah, she's also holding a fundraiser in Paris for the "Biden" Victory Fund. The "BIDEN" Victory Fund. Apparently this is different from Biden/Harris??

Fu*k the doctor.

Drago said...
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The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

Now I usually avoid conspiracy theories like the plague, but you just know that there was a conversation last week where some Democrat eminences speculated (purely speculative, of course) about how beneficial it would be to the narrative should some Democrat politician just happen to be assassinated. It would be fascinating to know which names were booted about.

gilbar said...

traditionalguy said...

The story of planned hit team at the Butler Rally grows. Either that or the loner is a trained assassin.

The roof was practically flat 340 feet from the Trump.
The rifle was planted 6 days before. Secret Service did not bother.
The shooter had flown a drone over the site , unlike the Secret Service.
The shooter has 3 encrypted accounts.
The Secret Service was not manned, but Homeland Security sent some of their people.
The coms between various officers were on different channels.

please Don't Forget:
The ONLY Trump Rally CNN live streamed..

Original Mike said...

"The ONLY Trump Rally CNN live streamed.."

Really?

Jupiter said...

"The rest will tell everyone they helped and supported Trump all along."

Well, of course. There are many good reasons to hold back at the moment of truth. And many good reasons to claim, later, that one did not hold back. "For if it prosper ..."

Dave Begley said...

Boatbuilder:

I agree with you.

And to go one step further after the Dems steal the election, it’s Civil War and the military won’t obey the Dems. This is really too terrible to contemplate, but the Dems are desperate.

Dave Begley said...

I keep wondering. How did we get to this place?

My conclusion? Money, power and evil. The Dems at the top are evil and they want to keep their power and money. They want more cows; metaphorically speaking.

Achilles said...

Dave Begley said...

I keep wondering. How did we get to this place?

My conclusion? Money, power and evil. The Dems at the top are evil and they want to keep their power and money. They want more cows; metaphorically speaking.


History has almost never left this place.

What you are seeing now is the exception. People in the United States have lived a charmed existence because some are willing to fight this evil.

Just look at what is happening in Germany and the UK and Brazil right now.

MadTownGuy said...

More about Kathryn51's comment:

First lady Dr. Jill Biden to host fundraiser in Paris amid campaign chaos

Excerpt:

"First lady Dr. Jill Biden will host a fundraiser while she’s in Paris leading the US delegation to the Olympic Games opening ceremony in Paris later this month, the Biden-Harris campaign said.

The event will be hosted by former US Ambassador to the EU Tony Gardner, Belinda de Gaudemar, and Lorna Johnson. Tickets range from $500-$25,000. As only Americans can donate to US campaigns, they will have to show a copy of their passport photo page to ensure compliance with federal election law, the campaign said.

The fundraiser, first reported by Politico, comes at a time of uncertainty for Biden’s campaign – during which donations have been drying up. Her attendance comes at a pivotal moment for her husband’s candidacy, as a growing number of Democrats have called on the president to step aside. The first lady remains the president’s closest adviser and fiercest protector, wielding influence in the White House and campaign. She has been an active surrogate on the campaign trail, criss-crossing the country on his behalf as she works to bolster his support with key coalitions.
"

This part is most suspect to me: "Tickets range from $500-$25,000. As only Americans can donate to US campaigns, they will have to show a copy of their passport photo page to ensure compliance with federal election law, the campaign said."

Sure, the attendees show their passports. Will they use their own money or will they be surrogates for foreign donees?

Some of us remember when the Obama campaign was fined by the FEC in 2008 for violating rules for reporting donations, and when they switched off the country code on the campaign website in 2012 for donations by credit cards and gift cards.

Obama 2008 campaign fined $375,000

Obama campaign accepted foreign Web donation — and may be hiding more

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

What’s this about a shadowy figure atop a water tower at the PA rally where Trump was shot?

Then they had some eyewitnesses accounts on the ground about the water tower.

imTay said...

"I keep wondering. How did we get to this place?"

I look at it like the situation in that Adam Sandler movie "Murder Mystery." You have a dying old man, The United States, who built a vast fortune based on personal drive, fortitude, skill, and now that he is dying, his children, who had nothing to do with creating the wealth, are fighting over the money and power, and fighting dirty.

wendybar said...

I can't stand this little rat faced liar at all. He is a coward who lied to us, yet he is calling what happened to Trump superficial??? He belongs in prison for the murder of millions of people that he killed with his lies.

Why should Trump show the liars anything, when they have been lying about Joe for 4 years, and won't release the truth about HIS health. Go fuck yourselves Faucites...

https://nypost.com/2024/07/19/us-news/anthony-fauci-downplays-trumps-wounds-from-assassination-attempt/

imTay said...

"We have very powerful sanctions that are available because of the important role of the dollar in international transactions," Yellen told U.S. lawmakers on the House financial services committee this week.

"The more we have used sanctions, the more countries look for ways to engage in financial transactions that don't involve the dollar."
- Janet Yellen testifies to Congress.

Basically we have gutted the dollar over a border dispute on the other side of the word, a dispute between slavs who are dealing with a blood feud, at least it seems to be a blood feud from the Ukrainian side. None of it is our business, and here at home our own border is being systematically erased.

If you ask me why I think that the perfidious foreign policy of the United States toward, not just Russia, but Europe, which has been economically poleaxed by this war too, and we are picking a fight with China right now, why this history is more important to me that sorting through accusations against Russia by the Ukrainians and by our own security state, well, Russia hasn't done anything to us, and whatever they are doing, they are not doing it in my name, nor are they asking me for money, weapons to do it. I don't care what happens in the former Soviet Union, when our own government is intent on destroying, excuse me "fundamentally transforming" the United States from a system that has worked reasonably well for 200+ years to some new and untried concept cooked up in Davos.

The shootdown of that airliner is a case in point of the lies they tell us. Ukraine didn't block off airspace over a combat zone where aircraft were in use, and anti aircraft systems were in use. End of fucking story. Why we are supposed to believe that this screwup by Ukraine makes Russia "uniquely evil" is beyond my comprehension.

They ask us to believe six impossible things before breakfast. I am just sick of it.

Saint Croix said...

I am more of a take-a-nap guy, than a raise-your-fist-after-you've-been-shot guy.

I like a nap. Naps! Nice.

I don't mind voting for somebody who is more impressive than I am. In fact, that's a good idea! A leader ought to be more impressive than my napping ass.

And before you get too impressed by Trump, consider this bad ass from the 20th century.

When I was a kid, I was like, why is he on Mount Rushmore? Well, he got shot, stood up, and gave a speech anyway. Dude.

Saint Croix said...

On the negative side, when Roosevelt split the Republican vote, it led to the rise of Woodrow Wilson, the worst president of the 20th century and the racist and fascist professor who lied and sucked us into a useless and stupid European war.

Taft, who reportedly once got stuck in a bathtub, had his faults, but he had to be 1000 times better than Wilson, who hated the Constitution and tried his best to destroy it.

Saint Croix said...

"what word/grammar hill would you die on"

A person is a "live human being."

No human being can be classified as a non-person and put outside the law.

This little bit of grammar was the legal basis of slavery, the Nazi Holocaust, and Roe v. Wade.

We fought a civil war to put our equal protection clause in our Constitution, and liars and violent thugs say with a straight face that corporations are persons and babies are not.

Jersey Fled said...

“My understanding is that he only has Secret Service security because he is a former President (like Obama, bush, etc). Most candidates don't get security until they are legally nominated.”

That was the pretext. We’ve known that he would be the nominee for weeks if not months.

Is it open season on your opponent’s nominee until the second he gets nominated?

The job of the SS is to evaluate risk and to respond accordingly. The risk in this case was that Trump would win in November. They responded accordingly.

narciso said...

A little like that cult actioner smoking aces

BUMBLE BEE said...

How did the USSS fail

https://www.city-journal.org/article/how-the-secret-service-failed

They made it look so easy!

Kakistocracy said...

This is the week Trump choked:
1. He had a chance to be a unifier but blew it with his demented speech.
2. His VP pick is a “national abortion ban” guy.

I feel more confident that the Democrats, even Biden, can beat this clown.

The convention, the people who produced the convention actually did do a good job. The rest of the convention was incredibly disciplined. They made even the most, the craziest of MAGA freaks tow some sort of line. There was no discussion of the 2020 election throughout the four days of the convention.

All the networks agree. 'We're just going to let you speak for an hour directly to tens of millions of Americans. Just say whatever you want, deliver your message'.

You can run the most disciplined campaign and disciplined convention in the world, but it doesn't matter if your candidate is one of the most undisciplined figures to ever grace American public life.

That is their weakness. He is their weakness.

Humperdink said...

Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Houston) has passed away at 74. She was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer earlier.

Sally327 said...

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee (from TX-Houston) has died from pancreatic cancer, may she RIP, condolences to the family.

So...she's not in the running to take Biden's spot.

Saint Croix said...

Democrats now spending campaign funds to urge Biden to withdraw from race.

Wow.

It's got to be from allies of Harris, no?

Jersey Fled said...

Further to my last post, Kamala Harris was put under protective Secret Service protection as the presumptive Democrat VP candidate almost three weeks prior to her official nomination in 2020.

From CNN:

“Harris was put under Secret Service protection last week, shortly after presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden announced the senator from California as his running mate.”

Of course, this was under the Trump DOJ.

Sally327 said...

There has to be some kind of glitch in the matrix happening right now, where in 2024 the Democrats are trying to scheme their way around law and procedure to engineer a particular result when this is what they've continually accused Republicans of trying to do to alter the results of the 2020 election.

Although they did sort of manipulate things in 2020 to get Biden on the ticket in the first place when they moved the SC primary up to give Biden a win and make his eventual nomination inevitable.

I guess it's not really karma, it's more blowback? Maybe from what they did as far back as 2016.

Saint Croix said...

I was shocked when I discovered what the #1 selling beer in the USA is.

I had no idea.

Jamie said...

May Lee rest in peace.

Humperdink said...

Jill Biden is playing hardball in negotiations with Dem leadership. She's looking for a 9 figure payoff, a collection of pardons and, and a player to be named later.

Saint Croix said...

A good article on the Secret Service failures, Bumble Bee, thanks!

(City Journal always seems to impress me).

Rusty said...

The middle one is a nice composition. Almost like a French primitive painting. I'm goint to hang it next to the other one.

BG said...

I revisited this post this morning and your photos were very calming to me. Thank you.

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

Antisemite Richard Spencer supports Joe Biden. Now that Richard Spencer supports FJB, I'm going to have to vote for the pedophile in chief! Not.

Mr. Majestyk said...

Audio analysis indicating there were at least two would-be assassins at Trump's rally.

https://x.com/NetworksManager/status/1814416156859502949

Scott Patton said...

One fake assassination accusation that I haven't heard is that when Trump heard gunshots he reached up and cut his ear with his thumbnail or a hidden "foreign object". You know, something like Hulk Hogan would have expertise with.

Jamie said...

He had a chance to be a unifier but blew it with his demented speech.

Tell me, Rich - is there anything, anything the human mind can contemplate, that Trump could have said or done this week that would have changed your opinion of him? I feel I must call BS on your statement that "he had a chance," at least a chance to change you.

And for either of the two common understandings of the word "demented," I'd like to hear your analysis of how that speech qualifies. Could you not understand it?

Jamie said...

One fake assassination accusation that I haven't heard is that when Trump heard gunshots he reached up and cut his ear with his thumbnail or a hidden "foreign object".

My husband and I have been having an ongoing theological argument related to this. He hates to hear people say that God intervened to save Trump (I'm not crazy about it either, even though I believe it's true, just as I believe God intervenes in all our lives all the time for God's own purposes) because he thinks the implication is that God didn't give a sh*t about Compertore. I counter that we don't and can't know what purpose Compertore's death could serve - where were we when God laid the foundations of the earth and all that.

But I did offer him one example of a possible good that could come from the death of this innocent man: it makes it (or should make it) utterly impossible for Democrats to believe that the assassination attempt was staged by Trump and his team.

I know there are sick people who believe Trump would have sanctioned something so heinous. But I'm talking about ordinary Democrats.

Kakistocracy said...

Fortunately for Democrats, Trump's acceptance speech was terrible and did nothing to boost his prospects in November. If anything, it hurt them as his low-energy, rambling, over-long speech may lead to more voters questioning his age and whether they want four more years of an eighty-year-old president.

Two-thirds of Democratic voters say Biden should drop out and Democratic leaders and donors need to continue to ramp up pressure on Biden to do so this weekend at the latest and release his delegates without an endorsement. That would allow for a mini-race between Kamala Harris and a couple other Democratic governors, with a couple debates in the lead up to the Democratic convention. That will likely spur a lot of energy and enthusiasm for a younger, new candidate.

Democrats should also take advantage of those missing from the GOP convention- including all of Trump's former cabinet members- none of which showed up or have endorsed Trump. Encouraging them to show up at the Democratic convention with tales of Trump's first term would be very helpful in preventing a second one.

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

It Looks Like Kamala’s Call with Democrat Donors Was a Disaster

Kamala probably tried to invoke her tried and true "Unburdened by what had been..." to the donors. Ignore the dumpster fire of Joe Biden. Just give us your money and STFU!

Drago said...

LLR-democratical Rich: "Fortunately for Democrats, Trump's acceptance speech was terrible and did nothing to boost his prospects in November. If anything, it hurt them as his low-energy, rambling, over-long speech may lead to more voters questioning his age and whether they want four more years of an eighty-year-old president."

LOLxInfinity!

Please. Stop it. You're killin' me! My sides are splitting!

Could you be an more transparently stupid in your gaslighting? Have you no dignity?

So very awesomely moronic! A new standard!

Drago said...

LLR-democratical Rich: "Democrats should also take advantage of those missing from the GOP convention- including all of Trump's former cabinet members- none of which showed up or have endorsed Trump. Encouraging them to show up at the Democratic convention with tales of Trump's first term would be very helpful in preventing a second one."

LOL

Please. Please! Do this. Make sure this happens.

Please.

Sally327 said...

Trump cabinet members who have endorsed him include Mike Pompeo and Ben Carson.

Just because someone doesn’t openly endorse a candidate it doesn’t meant the person favors the opposition.

Rich, someone accused me of being your sock puppet the other day so please, up your game a bit. I want to be able to see it as a compliment.

Jim at said...

1. He had a chance to be a unifier but blew it with his demented speech.

Understand one thing, Rich. And just one.

We don't want to be unified with people like you.

Got it?

Rusty said...

Rich doewsn't want to be unified with people like us, Jim. It would mess with his narrative.

Drago said...

Rusty: "Rich doewsn't want to be unified with people like us, Jim. It would mess with his narrative."

Whether or not LLR-democratical Rich "unifies" with "people like us" or different groups of people, is a decision made by others for Rich, like everything else.

Rich is your run of the mill, standard issue, everyday New Soviet Democratical NPC foot soldier. Without the slightest capability to stand apart and decide anything for him/her/xer-self. Just a talking points regurgitating, Abacus plucking, voice actuated buffoon.

And I'm afraid that is hard wired at this point, as you can see.

Mason G said...

"Rich is your run of the mill, standard issue, everyday New Soviet Democratical NPC foot soldier."

Jim: [consoling Bart, who is upset that his attempts to be cordial with the citizens of Rock Ridge led to him being racially insulted] What did you expect? "Welcome, sonny"? "Make yourself at home"? "Marry my daughter"? You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.